1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: No worry. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: Bagging up white in the middle of the room. Middle 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: he sitting in Omyra in the middle of June. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm from Niggas is full. Let's be picked up 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: with you, guy. 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I even got it on me when I picked. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: My kids U from school. All right, welcome to another 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: episode under my Rory and Mall podcast. Iron All im 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: Ury and we are sitting here today in Atlanta with 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: h somebody who I've been dying to talk to because 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: at one time we were really really good friends. Man. 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: And I don't even get a phone call no more. 13 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't get text no more. This nigga that blew 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: up been around the world twice. 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: Texas are green now, yeah, it's my green. 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: This is this is my my guy. I'm just, you know, 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: so happy that we are able to link up here 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: in Atlanta today for a special special episode with my guy, 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: my family, my brother Beny, the Butcher's up, and my boys. Man, 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: no man, real man, and stop that man now listen, man, 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: you know. 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: I will say time to have James Bennie. I feel 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: like I could get a hold of you a lot 24 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: easier before too. 25 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, twisted, you know, this is what I 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: always wanted for you. 27 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: You know, I always wanted this for you. Bro. You 28 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: know from from day one, man, I knew you was 29 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: a start. I'm just happy to be, you know, able 30 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: to link up with you and just tell you in person. Man, 31 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. I'm happy for you. Good to 32 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: see you look good. Right, we're still talking your ship. 33 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Every time I hear you talking and smile, I'm like, okay, 34 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: he's still shop. As long as you stay shoped. I 35 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: don't give if I don't never hear from you. Every 36 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: time I hear you, I want to hear you talk 37 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: that ship. You're gonna hear from my dog man. 38 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I always I always like to say this man, 39 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: that when you when you played that record that day, 40 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 4: I was living in the projects. 41 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: Man. 42 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I could was off my 43 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: first break on the old podcast that we did. Yeah, 44 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: that's when you know, I think it started for me. 45 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: And when I heard that from you, I mean everything 46 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that you are your success today, I knew, I knew 47 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: you You're still not a and I you're not doing 48 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: that yo. You know what it is, man, I just 49 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: feel like now you know you try to I like 50 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: when it's an organic thing. Like with me and you, 51 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: it was organic, like I heard your music. We had 52 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: never met before that. I heard your my first brick 53 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: tape and I played the record, and then from that 54 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: point on, you and I connected on the personal level. 55 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Came to haul them by the crib, smoke, drank, talk, shit, 56 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: and we just developed a bond since then. So a 57 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: lot of these artists now, I feel like it's hard 58 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: to connect to them on that level, man, because they 59 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: feel they come in feeling like they know everything already, 60 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: like you cut from a different cloth, you know what 61 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like now a lot of these young 62 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: artist they're young, right nineteen or twenty twenty one years old, 63 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: they feel like they know everything. You can't tell them 64 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: nothing because they got However, many followers on social media 65 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and shit like that. It's like, all right, you got it. 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: And I see so many of our listeners are always like, 67 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: you know, mall behin or most to be a manager 68 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: sign these acts all that. I'm like, so you want 69 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: more to have a whole new career, Like I don't 70 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: think people realize like the time and effort it takes 71 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: to like really signing artists and what that ship take. 72 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: So like, rather we could just put artists on that 73 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: we like and yeah you want to play the music 74 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 3: like exactly if we like it, we like it. 75 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: It's rather than stuff like that. Man. And if you 76 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: need me, if you need my help, right, I'm willing 77 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, Like if somebody reached 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: out and like, yo, broken, you introduced me to this 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: person that can you help me with this wish? How 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: should I go about this? I'm always willing to do 81 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: that for just off the strength I believe in somebody. 82 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: And obviously you know what it is between between him 83 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: and just free merch. 84 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: That's all I need. 85 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so. 86 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: That's what he sent me, some merch. Every time he 87 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: drops some ship, just send. 88 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Me a pack. 89 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got stuff down here too. 90 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: All right. 91 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: Sure, any time I've ever asked for any merch, Derek 92 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: can hit me with a link and say, yo, you 93 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: could buy it here. 94 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: That's how that's how to do me. That's how he 95 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: do all right. So I don't feel bad you got 96 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: to go through that. I don't feel bad. 97 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: I'd rather get it off the link because if you're 98 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: trying to get it from West, he's gonna give it 99 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: to you when you feels like it. 100 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when drop or what? Oh what he thinks 101 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: you should have? 102 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, like he might do a drop, he 103 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: might do three drops and don't give you nothing the 104 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: next one. Hem like yo, buzz, pull up, I got 105 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: something for you. Yeah, you're like, man, I wanted that 106 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: the mother things though, and that's when he sent me 107 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: the link. 108 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 109 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Well, we're down here for Hip Hop Awards. You're nominated 110 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: Lyricists of the Year more and I were a little critical. 111 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: I think of that category. 112 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not too critical, but critical. 113 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it's just not all lyricists in there, 114 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: or lyricists for the time in which the year cycle 115 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: should be. 116 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Yeah, they moved the 117 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: gold post a little bit. We all love hoh, but 118 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: god damn over O work one day out the year 119 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: he nominated. But you know we understand what that. 120 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 2: No, they want to clude that. They want to include 121 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: the big homie and everything. 122 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not fair. It's not fair because it's 123 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: like my nigga, that's whole bro, Like, we can't He's 124 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: lyricists of the fucking life. 125 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: To you, and he didn't put anything out in the 126 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: year except maybe the Push Verse. 127 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: Somebody asked me asked, she was like, Yo, you think 128 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 4: you could have wrote a better first Ay? 129 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Fuck with me. 130 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: They like, you think you could have wrote a better 131 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: verse than on God Did and whole I'm like, Hope 132 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: lived too long and seemed too much, very much for 133 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: anybody to write a better verse when it's the content, 134 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. He get crazy with the content. 135 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: So what's what's your relationship with cald I've always found 136 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: it interesting with the last two Kalid albums that Grisela 137 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: wasn't even brought up a part of it, because I 138 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: feel like Kaled is tapped in not just with you know, 139 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: whatever's on Billboard at the time. 140 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: But I don't. 141 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: But personally me, I don't. I don't have a relationship 142 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: with cal It I met. I met him one time. 143 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: It was Grammy weekend. I was going inside the party, 144 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: he was coming out. But he said, it's like, yo, 145 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: I love what you're doing. Congratulations, he told me congratulations. 146 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn telling me congratulations. I told him the 147 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 4: same thing. But man, I'm a fan, definitely a fan. 148 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: I love what he's doing. He do everything at a 149 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: high level, and everybody want that. 150 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: You know. 151 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: It's like it's like it's like an all star game. 152 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: Everybody want that call up. You know what I'm saying 153 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: from cal it when when he was putting them records together, 154 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: I just want to win, win, I mean joints some 155 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: kind of records back then. 156 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: So we have We did the show with we did 157 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: the episode with. 158 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: DJ Drama, and I've seen that with Drama is getting 159 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: spicy around here. Drama's not playing. 160 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know what it is. 161 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: I like the new found spice that. 162 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: He feels like he has to because nobody is acknowledging 163 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: him as much as they should. Probably in Drama is 164 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: a fucking legend, and I agree with that. Yeah, like 165 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to not not ring your own bell, 166 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: but you gotta like pause. That sounds crazy, but not 167 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: not not. You can't be humble like too long because 168 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: then it's easy for them to forget about you and 169 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: push you to the side. It's like, yo, do y'all 170 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: know what this dude been doing the last twenty years, 171 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Like he's been doing a lot. So right now where 172 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: you're at with Benny the Butcher, the artists, what would 173 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: mean more to you a gangster grill or DJ Khaled 174 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: album feature. 175 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: I would have to say, you know that's that's that's me. 176 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: I can answer that literally, like you got to step 177 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: in and get your gangster grills. 178 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: You gotta I done that. 179 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: I did the Black Souprano Family gangster grubs, and I 180 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: want my own gangster grills. Every rapper wants a gangster 181 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: grill the same way. You want to get that call up. 182 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: But you you got to come in. You see Symbol 183 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: coming in with his gangster grills. We see when when 184 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: them dedications, Wayne was letting you know, like, no, I'm 185 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I mean, I'm on my body, like I'm 186 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm different. 187 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 188 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: When you when you get them gangster grulls, it's like, no, 189 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm different, BENI sieg, I'm different. Everybody who done knows 190 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: Gucci man, I'm different. So it's like you got to 191 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: get that. You might start, you might start with the 192 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: gangster grills and let them know like I'm different, but 193 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: you want to finish off with that calde. 194 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 195 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: So I think they they is in the culture. They 196 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: equal as important. 197 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: But you gotta get that Gangster Grills first, you know 198 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying for you even jumping that race for 199 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 4: the cald. 200 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: I mean, as much as I love to see how 201 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: how gangster grill s Hays aged and progressed, like with 202 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: Tyler doing that on his out and everything, streaming did 203 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: kind of fuck up one of my favorite parts of 204 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Gangster Girls though, Like I would love a Gangster Grills 205 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: tape with you where you wrap on everyone else's beats. 206 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: We just can't do that ship anymore because streaming you 207 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: have to get everything. 208 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: Man, everything called the EP album and these his mixtapes, 209 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: you gotta name them different like it. 210 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, it. 211 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: Is all the same. Are you gonna go to the 212 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: actual awards? 213 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm going. Okay. 214 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: Do you think if Jack Carlow wins will do the 215 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: Macklamore Kendrick thing and text you and say you should 216 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: have got it? 217 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Uh? I don't think so, man. You know uh Jack? 218 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he a classy dude. I mean, he he a 219 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: seasoned guy. 220 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Man. 221 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: I like him, and I think I think he deserves everything. 222 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: I think he deserves everything he gonna get. But I'm 223 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 4: trying to win too, though, you know what I mean. 224 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: We sat and we sat and talked with Conway a 225 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: few months ago, and uh, you know, we asked the question, 226 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: like listen, man, like you know we've been I know, 227 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I know with some of those you know fake lo 228 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: ol tweets about the family and in the team, and 229 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, Wes and Benny kicked me out the car 230 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: all that ship. I know, first and foremost, y'all a family, 231 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: So you know that's first and foremost. But where does 232 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Griselda stand today as far as just the chemistry the business? 233 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Like where is it at? Is it somewhere where everyone 234 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: you feel it's on the same page. Is it a 235 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: conversations that y'all are not having that y'all probably should have, 236 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: Like where's where's the is the is the crew? Where's 237 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the fellas at today? This is what? 238 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: This is what I'm gonna say, you know what I mean. 239 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: Like you see, we just did roll in loud. Each 240 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: of us had a different day. You know, Griselda never 241 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: been a group. We've never been a group. That's why 242 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: that's why it's called Griselda Records. Like who you who? 243 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: You announced by the record label name? When when uh 244 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: do you call them? Like your uh young money cash Money. 245 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: You call them by their names, you call them who 246 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: they were. When they first came out, it was Westside 247 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Gunner Conway, Yeah right. 248 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: They was. 249 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: They was booked for the festivals west Side Gunn to Conway. 250 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: They doing shows west Side Gunn Conway. I warmed up 251 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: and I would say, Griselda Records. You feel what I'm 252 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 4: saying because we don't have a name of the group, 253 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: that grisel the Records is the label name because we're 254 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: never we never been a group. It's just Wes is 255 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 4: a curator so much. That's how he ushered Benning in. 256 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: That's how he ushered Conway in on his songs. So 257 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: it sounded like it sounded like a group. You see 258 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: what he's doing with Michelle Records. That's what he does. 259 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: So I think the answer they answer the question. 260 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 4: I think this is just the evolution of what was 261 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: supposed to happen. I got my label, Conway got his label, 262 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: West got new artists. Man, we got to sit up 263 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: front and learn from Wes. You know what I'm saying. 264 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: So I talk to them boys all the time. You 265 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And I was just on the 266 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: phone with West. He was like, Yo, me and conwe 267 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: was kicking it. I'm expecting. I don't know if they 268 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: want me to say this or not, but we're trying 269 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: to do what we She ain't gonna do too right now. 270 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm calling. 271 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm calling when we leave from here, like buzz what we're 272 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: doing because you know what, I come with a bag, 273 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: right so, but you know what I mean. 274 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: But that's where we're at with it. 275 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, of course I don't talk 276 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: as much as with them because when I first signed, 277 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: I moved down here, I lived in the house. You 278 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I don't need to live in 279 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: the house. I got like four of them now, all 280 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: my own shits. So it's like I don't see them. No, 281 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: I don't see them as often, you know what I'm saying. 282 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: So of course we don't talk, but I'm definitely tapping in. 283 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: You see, we put the Black Suprano Family tape out. 284 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: It's important that we get Wes on the intro. Yeah, 285 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: and I'm saying giving us his blessing and what I'm 286 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: saying to the newest Black Souprano Family artists. You see 287 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: Conway and there dumping you know what I'm saying. 288 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: You see the drum Work festival look crazy too. 289 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: You see me at the drum Work Festival, you know 290 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: what I mean. So we're always going to stay in tune. 291 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: But the Griselda today is not think Griselda of twenty seventeen. 292 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: Where do you think y'all differ? And I don't mean 293 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: like in a negative way? Where do y'all differ vision wise? 294 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Moving forward? 295 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: Because I'm sure probably in the beginning it was a 296 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: similar vision of just getting the three y'all on it 297 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: as much as you could. How is things shifted as 298 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: far as what West wants to do, what Kanway wants 299 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: to do, and what you want to do? 300 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: I think I think west vision is to push his 301 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: envelope with the fashion and with the wrestling. Well, I 302 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: know that's his vision. I talked to him, you know 303 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what he wanted to do, 304 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: the wrestling thing crazy, That's that's what he's doing. What 305 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: I'm saying, he about to have his own thing, and 306 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: he could do it right now today. But he's so 307 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: much of a perfectionist. He just he just taking everything 308 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: in he can. He could throw an event right now 309 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: today and it'll be big. But he just putting it together. 310 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: And uh, the fashion, the wrestling. I think Conway, me 311 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: and him, it's like kind of more of the same vision. 312 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: We want to We want to rape, you know what 313 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 4: I'm saying. We want to rap, West want to curate. 314 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 4: You want to curate the wrestling events, You want to 315 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 4: curate the fashion, want to curate other artists albums. 316 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Conway, we just still want to rap. We 317 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: still got that chip on our shoulder. Well we ever 318 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: we ever gonna get the Spurs album. 319 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Damn, that's a good idea. 320 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, listen, do you think you're sitting here talking 321 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: to today. 322 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Doing what I'm right here like, because let's do it. 323 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: Always we always needed been a Conway album. But if 324 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: we call that the Spurs album and you just come 325 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: up with it like that, just sitting here. Yeah, I like. 326 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: That, man, because I'm sitting here, like you know, I 327 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: hear the records. I always listen to this ship, and 328 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, I understand how it's so many different things 329 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: that you have going on as individuals. I get that, 330 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: and it's beautiful as y'all creating opportunities, y'all creating different avenues, 331 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: different streams of income. It's beautiful. But you know, I 332 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: remember before it got too busy ship that would have 333 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: been dope. And it's like, right, right, right, when is 334 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: that gonna happen? Because now it's a lot more ship 335 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: to talk about, exactly, it's a lot, it's a lot 336 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: more energy. It's a lot, it's a lot. You know, 337 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: it's so many things have happened, and I'm all about timing. 338 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: Everything is timing, so note you're right, it's time for that. 339 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 4: I think it's time for that too. That's why we're 340 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: talking about the What Machine's Gonna Do two album because 341 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: like at all of our three of us, at our height, 342 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: it's time to drop the album. It's time to form, 343 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 4: like vot Tromp. You know what I mean, don't wait 344 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: till you know how niggas usually wait till they cool off. 345 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: Now you're on the reunion man, Hell no, it's like, 346 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: while we ad our height, right now, let's come together 347 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: form like Votroump. Put all that solo career shit aside 348 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: and let's go. But they don't play with that though. 349 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: That's that's like that's about to happen. 350 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: Like well, then I also also asked the difference in 351 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: vision sound wise, because I feel like you've been the 352 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: one out of the group or label that has drifted 353 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: away from the typical what we call Griselda sound, where 354 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: it be Darren's your Alchemist, that crew, you know, the 355 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: no drums jokes on on Twitter and all that. 356 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: I put a new podcast, man, y'all ask some good ships. 357 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: You and your journalist know why. I think because we're 358 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: familiar with each other, each other this ship. People won't 359 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: ask me this ship. They won't want to ask me. 360 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Because I ask me that. 361 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: When you put out the Hit Boys shit, I was like, Oh, 362 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: I know the Griselda fans because I'm one, but not 363 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: the way like your core chrs is. I'm like, they 364 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: about to kill Even though I love this album, it 365 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: doesn't sound like Griselda exactly. It sounds like hit Boy 366 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: and somebody that could really rap. And I know those fans, 367 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: I've been in them shows. They want Darrenger Alchemist, Benny 368 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: Conway west Side. So what what was that like? And 369 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: is that something you could even see going into doing 370 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: a group project that Conway and west would want to 371 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: even do it? Experiment sound wise not to say that 372 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: they don't, but it is very much the Griselda sound, 373 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: whereas hit Boy wasn't. 374 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 4: I think so because I think I think that when 375 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: what Machine gonna do? Because Wes West talked to me 376 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: about that and he was like, yeah, we need that, 377 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: we need that Griselda sound on there also with a 378 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: more fuller sound. 379 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: And when I when we say Griselda to Griselda. 380 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: As of today, he got songs of Travis Scott, you 381 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Conway got songs with Uh Jay 382 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: and Kiss on the soundtrack of a movie. 383 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm doing joints. 384 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: With Cole and just so like the Griselda today is 385 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: gonna be a wider sound to me if you ask me. So, 386 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: we're gonna be getting in the studio with all type 387 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 4: of people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, pushing and 388 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: pulling and pause to that. We're in Atlanta, so I mean, 389 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: but just trying to you know, trying different sounds. 390 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: But you like you say, I'm I'm me. 391 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: I'm going I'm more of the type of person when 392 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: I get in a studio with somebody, I let them drive, 393 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: Like Yo, Benny, I hear you on this because I 394 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: don't want to get in the studio with with hit Boy. 395 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to get in the studio with Mike 396 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: Will made. You know what I'm saying. Mike Will made it. 397 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: Any of these guys and they play something, I'm like, nah, 398 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: I can't do it, Like I'm rapping in anything. This 399 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: is what I do. We talk about how it will 400 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: come out at the end. And some of them songs, 401 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: DOESNET been legend? You know what I'm saying. Some of 402 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: them songs, Doesnet been like a Slyde Green or a 403 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: five to fifty. When I'm getting there and I'm trying 404 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: and I'm trying different things, they work for me. 405 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: Did the hit Boy sessions and just that project in 406 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: general kind of shift your mind as far as the 407 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: type of beats that you want. 408 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: To rap on? Hell yeah? 409 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: I can't lie, Hell yeah, because I gotta. I got 410 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: a broader audience, you know what I'm saying. Who don't 411 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: want to do that? 412 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: Like me? 413 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm a hustler. 414 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: You know, these people got to remember I'm a hustler 415 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: and I've been rapping trap rap, you know what I'm saying. 416 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: And I held it down. I've been doing that. But 417 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: we got the money doing a Griselda thing, you know 418 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So now we did that, we're still 419 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: doing it. But if it's more money to be got, 420 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: you know, a nigga gonna chase that bag. 421 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: I got kids to feed. I'm not worried about. You 422 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, bull shit. 423 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: And as much as much albums that y'all put out 424 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: per year, just the three y'all, do you think maybe 425 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: the Griselda sound, as much as we've proven how successful 426 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: it is, hold y'all back at all if you continue 427 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 3: with it. 428 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think it holds us 429 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: back at all. 430 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: I think I think people think that so so they 431 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: might be apprehensive to you know what I'm saying, to 432 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: work with us, They like, they might be apprehensive. You know, 433 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: the super Bowl coming up. You know what I'm saying, 434 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: is like, I don't be got. I'm cite the rock Nation. 435 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 4: So my managers to hit me. It's like, Yo, the 436 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: super Bowl coming up. We got parties and everything, so 437 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: we pay you for some of them. And sometimes I 438 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: don't get him, you know what I'm saying. They might 439 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, he like a street rapper, underground rapper. 440 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: But we brought that. We brought from Buffalo, We from Buffalo, 441 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: New York. We brought that from Buffalo to underground to 442 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: to where we're at today. I think it can go further, 443 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Just you know, people sleep 444 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: on it. They're not sure yet. 445 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: What happened to the what happened to the Drake record? 446 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Because you had let me hear something a while ago. 447 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think. I don't think it's coming 448 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: out because I don't know. It's like a clearing issue. 449 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: Man. 450 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't know Drake because I heard, like, listen, we 451 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: here to talk. 452 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: Man, you listen, we're not doing that, and we're not 453 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: doing that today. I need to know. 454 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: Because I heard it multiple times and brought him up 455 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: the ship and you smoke the ship. 456 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 4: So what I can't what I can't say, man, Drake 457 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: did hit me up? I was like, yo when we 458 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: dropping it, like he caught me up, like he was 459 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 4: on me. That was a while ago, though, But you know, 460 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what I mean, things happened 461 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 4: so last I heard, my managers was trying to get 462 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: the was trying to talk to his peoples and trying 463 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: to get it clear. I think it just slowed up. 464 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what I mean, He's doing 465 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: what he's doing. I'm doing what I'm doing, what I'm 466 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 4: gonna do with You know what my problem is. I 467 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: told the world about the record. I was excited to work. Yeah, 468 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: I told the world about. 469 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: The record as you should have. 470 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 4: I understand Drake real shit, and uh, you know, I'm 471 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: a holler a depth jam, like, man, get this clear 472 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: at what we're doing. 473 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean, but do you take any of that personal? 474 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: Because I know plenty of artists that that have done 475 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: features and ship and then the label won't clear it, 476 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: but the artist will be like, oh, that rapper probably 477 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: told they label not to clear that shit. Did you 478 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: take any of that personal or even reach out to Drake? 479 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: Like what the fuck? Is this a universal thing? 480 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Yo? 481 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: Hell no, I could never take it. No, this is 482 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: a real shit though. 483 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: I could never take none of that personal, because like, 484 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: it's fucking Drake, you know what I'm saying. It's the 485 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: biggest artists in the world. So even for him to 486 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: acknowledge me, even for him to send me a verse 487 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: and then open track like, yo, let's kill that and 488 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: he really sent me too, right that that's what I'm 489 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: in it for. You know, niggas gonna get money. Yeah, 490 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: it's about the acknowledgement to respect amongst my peers, the 491 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: acknowledgement from the biggest artists in the world. You know 492 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying that, Like, yo, biddy, let's get on something. 493 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: You know, timing is everything and uh and I believe 494 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: that's something that could be revisited. 495 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: And it's only and it's only a topic because people 496 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: want to hear Drake with the Butch. 497 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, people want to hear it. 498 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: People want to know how that sound, you know what 499 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 500 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: So they want to hear Drake rap with the Raptors. 501 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: But why why? 502 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: I like them and they want to and they want 503 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: to and they want to hear the underground people shine 504 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: with the Stars. 505 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: And so I like that record is because I felt 506 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: you went into Drake's world. As far as how that 507 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: beat us you guys, I feel like even like when 508 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: West works with Tyler, like y'all bring the artists into 509 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: the Griselda world, which we want to hear. We want 510 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: to hear Tyler on some ship that is the Griselda sound. 511 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: I wish y'all would go more into other people's world 512 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 3: to really show that type of ship, because I know y'all 513 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: so self contained. 514 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: You don't need to do shit. 515 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: Let's bring everyone in our world is our ship. But 516 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: that's why I thought that Drake Record was so important 517 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: outside of the feature exactly, you got Benny on those 518 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: type of Drake beasts we love, like the time stamped 519 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: type records. 520 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: People want to see that. People want to see that 521 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: because they want to know cool. We switch it up, 522 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: and we can switch it up, you know what I'm saying. 523 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: But they want to see. 524 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 3: That, and even like with the Cold Record, and I 525 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: mean it's it's not even a conversation, but they're gonna 526 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: be mad if we don't ask it. Why did people 527 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: think Cole was talking to you in his verse? I 528 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: don't understand why, but that was a big thing on 529 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: the internet. They was like Cold going like I don't 530 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: think he's going at Benny in this. 531 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Rappers have done that though for sure. 532 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: You've got a whole cannabis l O. 533 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: Rappers have done that, and you know, he he he 534 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: says things. He say things like that on the song, 535 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: like Jesus asks for a feature you know what I'm saying. Hm, 536 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: But we all do that, you know, That's the nature 537 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: of a rapper. And I think fans is just they 538 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: just read into everything and they you know, they they 539 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: wanted to. They want to They want him to be 540 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: saying something to me on the record, you know what 541 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 4: I mean. Like that makes it juicier for them. But 542 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: it's like, Man, I don't know, man Cole, he one 543 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: of the most solid rappers I met and this ship. 544 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean to be honest with you. 545 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: Did he Did he reach out to you? 546 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Or you reach out? 547 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: Then I reached out to him. I reached out to 548 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: him because I felt like that was the next step 549 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: for me. I want to rap with the rappers. Same 550 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 4: thing with the Drake record, same thing with the my record, 551 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: would push your t same thing on my record with 552 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 4: blacked Out, same thing. I want a Kendrick record, I 553 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 4: want a jay Z record. I want to rat with 554 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: the rappers. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying. So I 555 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: reached out to him. I went to one of his 556 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: shows in Detroit. I was on tour at the same time. 557 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: Link kicked it witting Uh took a picture with me 558 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: and the Homeboys he posted the picture. I'm saying, you 559 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: know that's it's just Instagram and Internet. But you know 560 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: guys like that don't have to share their platform. Yeah, 561 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. Nine times out of ten 562 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: you see guys like that sharing their platform with people 563 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: who could help them. You know, I'm not gonna get 564 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: J Cole no more, no more followers, and I'm not 565 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: gonna get no more streams. 566 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. 567 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: So it's dope to see that. That's inspiring to me. 568 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: That that had me like go reach down to somebody like, yo, 569 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: let's do this record. 570 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: Just seeing bruh. He easily do that, but. 571 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: You feel like you have to outside of your actual 572 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: personal taste. You want to rap with the rappers. I 573 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: feel like y'all would sound great with people like UZI, 574 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: people like the younger kids that are making not so 575 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: lyrical miracle type rap. As you guys feel like you 576 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: can't do that type of ship. 577 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: No we can't. 578 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: We want to do that, man, we can't. We're going 579 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: to do that. It's just that I think it's just 580 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 4: a hip hop and us. 581 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's. 582 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: Just that's what That's what I want to do. 583 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 4: I want to It's all good to do everything else, 584 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: but I want to, like, I want to see where 585 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: I stand in the ring with the guys. 586 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm the guy from Buffalo. 587 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: It is no bigger, it's no bigger in hip hop 588 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: than what we are from our city. 589 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: We are those guys. 590 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: So you know, a large part of the culture, the 591 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: code following Grisell, the following when to want to see 592 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: how we how we go with those guys. That's how 593 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 4: I do. But I love working, man. I got so 594 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: many records that's about to come out. Shout out to 595 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: Tako Bang me and him got a record. Shout out 596 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: to you. Hear the money Man record the record with 597 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: me and money Man. I'm on Herbal new album. You 598 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I got a record with my 599 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: Lotto and Cash. Don you know what I'm saying. So 600 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: it's like I love doing I love doing those type 601 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: of records. But and I like to get busy, you know. 602 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I need that feeling in 603 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: my bones. 604 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: Man. 605 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm from the I'm from the nineties era music. 606 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: What type of what's what's an artist that Benny the 607 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Butcher listens to that, his fans would be absolutely fucking 608 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: amazed that he even knows who that artist is. Like 609 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: you be in the crib, because niggas think you in 610 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: the crib just listening to the most toughest grimy and shit, 611 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: Like you got a del playing. 612 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: In the crib, my nigga, Like I don't. I don't 613 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: got a del playing in the crib. But I'm I'm 614 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: listening in like I'm an old school nigga. I'm listening 615 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: to Shade. I'm listening to John b. You know what 616 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like I might lead a club rowdy night, 617 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: you might lead a strip rowdy night. You know it 618 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: gets rowdy in the place. Yeah, yeah, I'm riding home. 619 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: I'm listening to the Commodore. 620 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: Every like real lyrical rapper. I know doesn't listen to 621 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: lyrical rapp R. 622 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: And I can't I can't get I can't be inspired. 623 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I can't be inspired 624 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: if I'm just listening to that genre of music. 625 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: What else I listened to? 626 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: I listened to ees TG, Yeah, listen to uh Poosha, 627 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: heisty of course, what Dirk Kode I'm listening to Dirk Yak. 628 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: I'm on that yach Future gonna you know That's That's 629 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: what I'm really listening to all the time. You know 630 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, same thing everybody else listened to. 631 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 632 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: Since we're around the corner from the Mercedes Benz Theater 633 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: and Kanye's been going fucking nuts lately. Were you involved 634 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: any of those Kanye sessions? I know he was posting 635 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: Griselda stuff at one point. 636 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't in there. 637 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: I did I did the one I went to one studio, 638 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: well it was a studio session, but we didn't record nothing. 639 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: I spent most of my time in Wyoming just kicking 640 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: it with side, you know what I mean? That was 641 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: worth it, sure, But uh man, I know Conway spent 642 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: a lot of time over there and West conwege Wait, he's. 643 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: Been doing something over there. He has been doing something. 644 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: What was the Wyoming situation like for you? 645 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: Man? 646 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: It was dope, man, it was just ya got the 647 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: whole Yay, got the whole compound. 648 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: It was donkeys and lamb ship just walking around. 649 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: He got the them them them funny trucks and ship. 650 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: You be seeing him driving them ships to be lighted 651 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: up and with the keys already in them, walking past 652 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: like y'all, I want to drive some shit like that. 653 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: They like go like the keys is in there, Like 654 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: I ain't touching that ship. 655 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: It's a liability touching dropping that. 656 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 657 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: Uh man. I woke up the next morning and uh 658 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: Havoc was there. That was my first time meeting Havoc 659 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: in the studio, studio with Havoc And it's like, yay 660 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: got the people and I didn't stay on a compound. 661 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: I stayed at a hotel. He got the people like 662 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: running in the raptors like picking you up. They constantly 663 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: picking people up and dropping them off like out of land, 664 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: like at the airport, private planes and shit like that. 665 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: So it was like it's like a little city. 666 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: What type of Like I got to know what those 667 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: hotels was thinking when Kanye moved there and just started 668 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 3: flying Brazil out there, Like come to the front desk. 669 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: If I'm working in Wyoming and you walked to the front. 670 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 3: Like this, Oh my god, this diner in town. 671 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 672 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: That got to be crazy if you've seen that. But 673 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: he got his own little city if you ask me, no, 674 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 4: that's what's up. 675 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: How many how many artists at the Wyoming session that 676 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: was there did you feel like, damn, I really want 677 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: to work with this, with this dude, like I've always 678 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: wanted to work with him, like meeting Havoc. I'm pretty 679 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: sure at one point that was it. 680 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: It was like, damn, half here you go like shit, 681 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: say something to him like get to get the meat 682 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: from here, you know what I mean? But it was 683 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 4: half and definitely side man, just kicking it with him, 684 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's where I get all 685 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: my game from people who've been in the game longer 686 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: than me. So just picking his brain. And he played 687 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 4: his album for me, I played my album for him. 688 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's just and it's just like okay, you 689 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? 690 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Is that? 691 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: Is that a route the Wayside? Again, it's one of 692 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: our favorite lyrical rappers, but it's a great writer with 693 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: the other it as well, And I think typically lyricists 694 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 3: are the best writers. Would you ever write for somebody, 695 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: not even in some hip hop ship like. 696 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 4: Of course of course I could do. I could do 697 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: things like that, have course, you know what I mean? 698 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 4: If the opportunity presents itself. I've done things like that before, 699 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: but not like an artist step into me. You know 700 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I've done that for like you know, 701 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: it's crazy, man. I wrote a song like I shouldn't 702 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: be saying this. I wrote a song for Pinky back 703 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: in the day before anybody ever heard of me. She 704 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: was trying to rap and I wrote a song. 705 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: I did were about to have a I did? No. 706 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: No, I'm glad I asked that cliche asked question because 707 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: we got a crazy fucking it all right, old on, 708 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: I did. No. Let's start from the beginning. I need 709 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: to start at the beginning. How did you meet Pinky? 710 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: And why did you mean Pinky? Listen? First of all, 711 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: what's the first ball? I need to know how Pinky 712 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: was coming on the tray? What was the first ball? 713 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: I didn't go like that. 714 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: Se when they found references, you said it. 715 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: I never even knew about this. That's why I didn't 716 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: want to say it. That's why niggas. 717 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Can't be opening niggas real ship. 718 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: But we don't find the dat reference lapping for Pinky. 719 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: I never met Pinky, right, And I was like, what 720 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: if I ever miss this? Is her heyday? Was she 721 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: so less? 722 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: You want to raping? 723 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying, try anything like I want to say two 724 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: thousand and eight. 725 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that was slim Pinky, you know what I mean. 726 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: This is the cat Stacks era, slim Piky. 727 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: DVD era type of things. 728 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: Okay, So so Pinky wanted to rap? Who connected? Who 729 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: was like, yo, my my man could rap. He'll write 730 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: your ship? 731 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: Uh Cheddar DVD? Remember Cheddar DVD? I remember from Boston. 732 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: So he was doing he was doing a peace with 733 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: her and they brought it up and he was like, 734 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: I know just the person, right, you know, that's my homeboy. 735 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: He was like, I know just the person to write. 736 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 4: And they called me. 737 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: How did you feel that he said those words, I 738 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: know just the person to write you a verse? Pinky? 739 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: I might have been offended. 740 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: It wasn't like that. It's just that he knew he could. 741 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: He knew I probably was the best rapper. He knew 742 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: who could, who could? Who could do something like that? 743 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Me? 744 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: I always was malleable, basically like I was always like, 745 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: I mean, easy to work with. So when they first came, 746 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: so I'm thinking like, how could that work? And they 747 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: just told me It's like, you don't, my nigga, you 748 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 4: don't got to go all the way. 749 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Just just be I mean, just write some ship. 750 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, because if I got to talk that 751 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: dumb shit like I can't, I can't do it. But 752 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: I just I just wrote the record. I kind of 753 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: think I wrote it too lyrical for it to be 754 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: honest with you. 755 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know we've interviewed and just talked with amazing. 756 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Real wrote the records. You got my fucking Pinky spending 757 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: like Tyler K. 758 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: I know a lot of writers say when they have 759 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: to write for somebody, they research them. They really get 760 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: to know them. They try to understand their lifestyle. Like 761 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: what type of research did you do to understand Pinky 762 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: to write I'm familiar with her? 763 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Like before you. 764 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: Got to the stool, he was like, all right, let 765 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: me let me refresh my memory on what. 766 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: When I met her. 767 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: When I met her and then I just you know, 768 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: she was flying, to be honest with you, in her 769 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: and her I don't think it was her husband or 770 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: boyfriend at the time, probably still is now. I'm not 771 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: sure me and him had the same first name, Jeremy. 772 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So he was. He was 773 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: a flying nigga too, So I added that I made 774 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: it about that. 775 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Ship like that. You know what I'm saying. 776 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: That's funny. It never came out though. 777 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Right, Obviously we would have heard that, man, I never heard. 778 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: But how would you know if you know what I'm saying. 779 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: No, but no, I wouldn't know it was you, but 780 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: we would hurt her pinky record. I don't think we 781 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: would have heard a pinky record. 782 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't think. 783 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: I don't think it ever came out. The thing about 784 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 4: it is, to be honest with you, I think I 785 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: wrote it to lyrical for her, and she and the 786 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 4: way it. 787 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: Came out, they was like, do you remember any bars 788 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: from it? 789 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: No? I don't. 790 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: My nigga, I think he's. 791 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember. 792 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: Nobody to google it, man to look for that's some 793 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: fun I doubt it. I doubt it's out there. But 794 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: that's a crazy story. 795 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Man. 796 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: I think at some point maybe we might need a 797 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: pinky Benny. 798 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: But I play like eight bones for that eight racks. 799 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: That's what's up? Oh ship? 800 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 4: That was okay, That's what I'm saying. Like the feature 801 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: slide on the d v D, like I was about 802 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: to be on. I was on my way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 803 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 4: I was on my way. 804 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: Imagine Pinky putting you on in the wrap. That's crazy 805 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: because I remember, like when Max was fucking around Rocky 806 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: Reynolds and Ship, there was a time when I feel 807 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: like porn stars were trying to do the rap thing. 808 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: And Rest in Peace that was probably case in the 809 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're ready. 810 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: We already got a fan base that's a fast rapping. 811 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: So out of the young dudes that I've seen on 812 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: the project, long lived DJ Sha Rest in Peace and 813 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I damn I believe that was the last time we 814 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: sat and spoke with Bennie. Shay was in the studio 815 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, he was there with us, and. 816 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: I believe what he passed maybe like two a week 817 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: after that, not too. 818 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Long after the Rest and Peace. One of the dudes 819 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: that I really really like that I you know, I 820 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: see y'all kind of like putting your arms around it 821 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: and ushering in stove. God Like, when I hear him, 822 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of how I felt when 823 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: I heard you, and it was certain certain things that 824 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: he says and how he says certain things, and how 825 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: slick and witty his bars are, but it's also very unique, 826 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: like it's almost an un orthodox kind of flow that 827 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: he has. Is that one of the young casts that 828 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: you look at and you might not be able to 829 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: because you got to keep your poker face when like 830 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: the students is in the room. But is he one 831 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: of the ones you look at and he says something, 832 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: You're like, God, damn, this Nigga's nice. 833 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: Man him, Simba, you can't forget specially, you know what 834 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Specially is on a different level. 835 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into yall history too from special. 836 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I definitely see I definitely When people 837 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: ask me about Stove, I say, Stove out of here. 838 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: He got he got all the intangibles, ain't none to talk. 839 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: He's out of here, you know what I mean? And me, 840 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: I always look at myself as like I'm the one 841 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: any Like when you think about it, anybody who's ever 842 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: on the record with Bennie the Butcher, they're rapping at 843 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: their highest. I'm I feel good that I that I 844 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: bring that to the table because because everybody don't bring 845 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: that to the table. You know what I'm saying, And 846 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: there's certain artists who bring that to the table. For me, 847 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, this guy bring the best out of 848 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 4: me Conway especial, So knowing that, you know what I mean, 849 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 4: Like I've been told that, Like people get on the 850 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: song with me and they and they just go crazy. 851 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 4: And you know, Stove just been going crazy period on 852 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: songs with everybody. But I think, like you said, the 853 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 4: dynamic he reminded me and me too, So the dynamic 854 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: of me and him on a song together, like people 855 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: like that. I think people want to hear me more 856 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: of me and. 857 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: Stove absolutely as a consumer right right, that's clearly like 858 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: when I hear him, I'm like, oh, people want to 859 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: get see they want to hear how to need him 860 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: on sign with the record. 861 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: And we don't have to get too much into detail 862 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: on the Houston and sendem at all. But how has 863 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 3: that changed as far as how you move? And obviously 864 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: we see everything going on in the rap community with death, shooting, 865 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: bullshit here, How is your lifestyle changed since then? 866 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Man? 867 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: My lifestyle changed since then because I'm definitely more cautious 868 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: about where I'm at, you know what I mean, Like me, 869 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: I don't fear for my life. I don't fear, you 870 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean. And maybe that's a maybe that's 871 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 4: something I might need to do, you know what I'm saying. 872 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: But I move like I don't move like I'm in danger. 873 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: Of course, I'm not in nobody hood three or four 874 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 4: in the morning. 875 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 876 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: That shit in Houston happened three thirty in Houston. 877 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel what I'm saying. So, but I definitely 878 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: move like a rapper now, so to speak. A certain place, 879 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: I might pull up to the gas station. I might 880 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: be going to niggas like, yo, don't I'm going in 881 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 4: for you. You know what I mean to me, I might. 882 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I'm not in the hood. I 883 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 4: might be on a road somewhere like Nigga's like, no, still, 884 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: don't don't get out the car like me. 885 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: I didn't know I was. Don't get out the car famous. 886 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a mistake sometime. 887 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 4: Know, no, real shit, you know this shit do not 888 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 4: come with a man or you know, these people gave 889 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: me all this money, and nobody introduced me to a banker, 890 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: Nobody introduced me to like, Okay, call this security dude. 891 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: Nobody introduced me to nobody. So and I think it's 892 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: so dangerous. 893 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: And I think it's so dangerous being a rapper because 894 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: I talk about this all the time, the lack of 895 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: people to look up to in our community. 896 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: So people glorify rappers. Me. 897 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: I know, a difference from a movie in real life. 898 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: We all do a difference from music, our entertainment in 899 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: real life. But these people glorify rappers. They on YouTube 900 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 4: every day. It's people with YouTube channels who who got them? 901 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: Shit? 902 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: Just basically off talking about rappers critically. You know what 903 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying, what they do, what they don't do, antagonizing 904 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 4: rappers and niggas like like at this statement. 905 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: I remember. 906 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 4: I remember I was in the club one night and 907 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: there was this nigga there and he was like yeah, 908 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: you know he was saying. 909 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: He looked at me, he looked around. 910 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: He seem like he seemed like the it was bitches 911 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: in my face, it was niggas DJ screaming my name out. 912 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: He looked around, he look what I mean. I looked 913 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: at him. He looked back around. 914 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: He was like, man, and I got more money than 915 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: these rappers. 916 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 917 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 4: It's like you know that you know that's a goal, right, 918 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 4: I mean, like, is that's that's your goal? Have more 919 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 4: money than Bill Gates? Right, you know what I'm saying, 920 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 4: have more money than you know what I mean, Like 921 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: that's your goal. Like people want to Man, I got 922 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 4: the rap smoke rapper, We smoke read like God, damn 923 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 4: niggas was. 924 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: Like the top of the food chain. 925 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: People want to do everything rappers do, but at the 926 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 4: same time, they want to attackonize rappers. 927 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: Man, you bitch you as rap niggas. Rappers don't got 928 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: this man, Rappers like it's like a love hate relationship 929 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: that that people have with us. 930 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: They love us so much they hate. 931 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 4: Us, I'm saying them same niggas who'll be running up 932 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 4: on niggas take an autograph, you know what I'm saying. 933 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 4: Or it's just that it's just dangerous, man, you know 934 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 4: what I mean. And we ninety nine point nine point 935 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: nine nine nine percent of rappers, it's all from the ghetto, 936 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 4: and we want to go back, right, and we want 937 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 4: to go back even if we're not back in our 938 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 4: ghettos where we're from. We want to connect with people 939 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 4: in different ghettos to show them like, look, look what 940 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: I did like you. Yeah, my nigga, I'm from right here. 941 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 4: But we can't even do that because they coming back 942 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: and seeing us as food. You know what I'm saying, 943 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 4: because is it's crazy. 944 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: Had it's popularity and accessibility I think at this point, 945 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: because like even when we was coming up, you only 946 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: knew about the rappers you liked, and you didn't know 947 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: where they were nor really what they had unless it 948 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 3: was a video or they just rapping a verse. At 949 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: this point, they could be just reposted on ig You'll 950 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: find out aout a new rapper and see what he has, 951 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: and then it becomes food. At that point. It's just 952 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 3: too much accessibility. It's too much popularity because somebody could 953 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: not be a fan or know about a rapper, but 954 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: they know they ig page and they know other people 955 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 3: like them. Oh he's in LA today. 956 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: That type of shit, and people just broke as fuck broke, Yeah, 957 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 4: people broke is fuck no disrespect I mean respectfully because 958 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: that used to be me and and and that's still 959 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: a lot of people that I know. Uh, people broke 960 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 4: as fuck, you know what I mean. Like rappers, we're 961 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: in a different world I'm in. I might be in 962 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 4: a room where I got the less ship, you know 963 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: what I mean, I might be I'm actually in a 964 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: lot of rooms like that. 965 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: So it's the rooms you want to be in exactly. 966 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: But when I go when you go back home, when 967 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 4: you go back like you the you the apex niggas, 968 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 4: like god damn, how the. 969 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: Fuck did you do it? Like, bro this this is nothing, 970 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 971 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: In our world, this is nothing because people climb into 972 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: the heights and you go to the bottom of it, 973 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? That people thinking people people 974 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 4: some you might fucking blue ten thousand shopping you might 975 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: give it to your family son, and it's somebody, and 976 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 4: it's people in the hood thinking like all I need 977 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 4: is ten thousand dollars to change my fucking life and 978 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 4: I'll never be broke again. 979 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they think. 980 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 4: That's what they think is they don't know, but it's like, man, man, 981 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 4: people in the hood is like fucked up. 982 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 3: And you also have to put the psychology of how 983 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: we all strive for attention now with social media into thievery, 984 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: because now it's a stack to rob somebody, Like they 985 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 3: could go back and say I robbed. You could rob 986 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 3: somebody as rich and nobody know them. 987 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: It's not a stat. 988 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: You got the money, but we've clearly seen that people 989 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 3: like attention more than money these days. Do you think 990 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: so now when it's a rapper somebody, oh y'all know him, 991 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 3: I robbed it, that it becomes even bigger. 992 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: It's like, hang with this rapper or robum? What can 993 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 4: I get more cloud off? 994 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: Exactly? Which is just the way weirdo shit. But you 995 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: got to really think that attention has gone into the thieves, 996 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 3: like I get more of a stat because we live 997 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: in this fucking generation of look at me, look what 998 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: I did. That shit even goes into crimes. 999 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the because you know, I'm 1000 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: at the age now where and I hate it because 1001 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: that means I'm officially old. But the whole culture of 1002 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: like drill music, like growing up, you know, I remember 1003 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: when you know, Gangster Rat came on and snooping dre 1004 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: like I used to have to go. I had to 1005 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: sneak to listen to Doggy Style, like my moms wouldn't 1006 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: let me just openly listen to that. But like if 1007 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: you listen to Doggy Style now and then you listen 1008 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: to that content and you listen to the young rappers 1009 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: now and their content Doggie style wasn't that bad, Like 1010 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't as violent. And again and being out here 1011 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: moving around, we do know how influence influential music and 1012 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: not and hip hop is to the world in our city, 1013 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: in our country. Do you feel like the drill music 1014 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: or just music in general, is playing a part in 1015 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: the violence that is going on? Like because now a 1016 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of these young cats they really rapping about shit 1017 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: that they really actually doing. And like hip hop supposed 1018 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: to be to art of storytelling, you don't got to 1019 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: actually be doing that shit. Like a lot of these 1020 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: actors ain't actually killing people, right, you know what I'm saying, 1021 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: But were going spending money into the movie there is 1022 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: and we supporting these projects. But why is it in 1023 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: our culture you have to really be killing the motherfucker, 1024 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: You really have to be robbing a nigga, and then 1025 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: you're going on the music and saying it and saying 1026 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: and laying it. 1027 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 2: Out for the for the cops to come right to you. 1028 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: Right, do you think. 1029 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: That that's playing and programmed that way as far as 1030 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: like the streaming thing now, because now it's like violence 1031 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: is almost monetary they're monetizing off for the violence and 1032 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: the shit that's going on in the community. 1033 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 4: Man, I think, Man, I know a lot of people 1034 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: ain't gonna like my answer, but I think that shit 1035 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 4: do play a part of that. Like you know me, 1036 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 4: everybody know what kind of music I make. You don't 1037 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: think the motherfucker see me as shows him be like, Bro, 1038 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 4: you know what I just did. Listen to your music? 1039 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: I just sold it. I'm like, bro, don't tell me, right, 1040 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 2: tell me, bro, you know what I'm saying. 1041 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 4: So it's just fucked up that the Sureties want to 1042 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 4: prove themselves through the music, right, you feel what I'm saying. 1043 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 4: And you know what, man, A lot of people can 1044 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: say that about us for the ship that were talking. 1045 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 4: Men only talk about the selling it and selling that 1046 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 4: or But the difference to me is that, I mean, 1047 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 4: we wanted to be bosses. It was about money, you 1048 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Money Selling drugs is not it's 1049 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 4: not it's not cool to get your asshole full of time. 1050 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 4: It had your mama missing you and your kids missing you. 1051 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 4: But you ain't killing nobody, man. You blowing nobody fucking 1052 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 4: head off over lyrics and just in the music and 1053 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: just to and just like you said, it's like like 1054 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: like and and and and and my era, you had 1055 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 4: to be nice. It's like these niggas don't got to 1056 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 4: be nice. It's like if you gotta be. 1057 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: A shoot if he okay, but he shot some the 1058 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: like the next one. 1059 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I think I think Shorty's 1060 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 4: got it fucked up with that one. I'm not saying that, 1061 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 4: You're not saying that. I'm not telling nobody to rap 1062 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: about what they don't I mean, rap fake shit. I'm 1063 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 4: just saying, like, be yourself. Don't ever feel like, don't 1064 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 4: ever feel like you can't be yourself to get some 1065 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: money or to get next to that pretty girl you like, 1066 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: or to get that car you want. You don't got 1067 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 4: to be a guy. You know you could. You could 1068 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: literally be. 1069 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: In your own skin. Man. 1070 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: Guys like Drake and Jack Harlow show us that every day. 1071 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 4: Uh, Toby, you know what I'm saying. Guys like that 1072 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 4: Tyler the Creator man, be yourself, cold man, you got 1073 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 4: it that Johnny Peace Caddy that video. I refuse to 1074 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 4: go to Sacks for that video because I knew brothers. 1075 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 4: I knew how brother's gonna He made me like, no, 1076 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 4: we're not doing that, because I know, brother, not doing that. 1077 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1078 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 4: I did the video with money Man, I'm in sacks 1079 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 4: and Doha bondis shit, my boy, money Man, you're coming drippy. 1080 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 4: But it's like, be yourself. That's why around the time 1081 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 4: when you discovered me, I was rapping about. I was 1082 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 4: trapping about living in the projects, having to put the 1083 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 4: two by four on my door soon so I can 1084 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 4: go to sleep at night. You feel what I'm saying, 1085 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: may be yourself. 1086 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: Be yourself. You know what I'm saying. 1087 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 4: That's what people don't think that you gotta be a 1088 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 4: tough guy. You're like, you know, we really did that. 1089 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: Man. 1090 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: Man, that's man. 1091 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna get you. I ain't gonna get you nothing. 1092 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 4: So I think the Shorty's kind of got that misconscrewed. 1093 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: Then, you know what I mean. 1094 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 4: I love the drill movement because anything that's putting food 1095 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: on the tables, providing a way for them exactly. So 1096 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's a touchy subject, but it's like, man, 1097 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, don't take it so literal. 1098 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, don't don't use the music 1099 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 4: as a form of violence. You know what I'm saying. 1100 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 4: They're using the music as a form of violence. Sometimes 1101 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 4: not all of them, you know, And I know when 1102 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 4: to say that. 1103 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: I know that. 1104 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: I know these A lot of these young kids. Is 1105 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 4: they they born into it. They don't have a choice, 1106 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 4: like I didn't have a choice. So that's what I'm 1107 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 4: trying to tell you. Be yourself. 1108 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 3: Have you the middle of all that, you maybe wanted 1109 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: to change some of your content the older you've gotten 1110 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 3: in the different life experiences, because obviously in the earlier tapes, 1111 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 3: still in Buffalo, still involved in whatever it was. Now 1112 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 3: things have changed. 1113 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: Right, I think if people listen to my music. 1114 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 4: My content has changed. I think so too, my content 1115 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 4: has changed. I'm be honest with you. After after that 1116 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 4: shit in Houston, I don't be rapping about all that ship. 1117 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 4: I mean like guns and ship like that, shoot and 1118 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 4: the ship like that. I done been in shootouts before 1119 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 4: that Houston ship. Niggas have been in shit it I 1120 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 4: was and dead everything. So even if I do talk 1121 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 4: about it, I'm I'm going back. But I'm not just 1122 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 4: drawing out of it nowhere just to make a point. Yeah, 1123 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I don't got to talk 1124 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 4: about frivolous. 1125 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Gun pay shit. 1126 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 4: You moved different somebody earlier, Like if you've been through 1127 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 4: some shit, you move different. 1128 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm moving different. 1129 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: I don't. 1130 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about people say. People say 1131 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 4: all I do is coke wrap fuck them. But sometimes 1132 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 4: I want to show like I could do other things right. 1133 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 3: Well, how has your perspective changed outside of the Houston 1134 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 3: thing and even safety as far as how you move, 1135 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: How is your perspective just changed from the success and 1136 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 3: just being a full time rapper and just having an 1137 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 3: entire defently lifestyle that you have. 1138 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 4: It's that, man, you know, it's a lot on my shoulders. 1139 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 4: It's a lot that I could. I can handle anything. 1140 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: Maybe my mama can't handle it them, maybe my kids 1141 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 4: can't handle it. 1142 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: So you don't. 1143 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to be like, yo, I'm an I 1144 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 4: could do this and then putting them through something like damn, 1145 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 4: we can't go through that. 1146 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: We need you. 1147 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: So you gotta grow the fuck up. 1148 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, man, you just got to grow the fuck up 1149 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: and realize that even though I'm the guy with the spot, 1150 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: I'm the guy with the with with the microphone. But 1151 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 4: I represent a lot of people. What I'm saying, Benny 1152 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 4: the Butcher is is uh, you know a lot of 1153 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 4: people stand behind me. I'm not here by myself, you 1154 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 4: know what I mean? It was a lot for a 1155 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 4: lot of people, I wouldn't be here. It's to be 1156 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 4: mindful of that. Stop making these selfish decisions of apron 1157 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 4: if it's the hanging out or if it's the just 1158 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 4: doing shit that I shouldn't be doing just thinking I 1159 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 4: mean selfishly. Well, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask 1160 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 4: and talk about the whole situation with Freddick, only because 1161 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 4: I fuck with both of y'all personally, I fuck with 1162 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 4: both of y'all's artists, and just being honest, I don't 1163 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 4: know what the fuck how it even started. 1164 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 3: I'm legitimately confused. 1165 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: Man, Niggas gotta ask him that man, like, oh, I 1166 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: plan on it. I plan on it, but as a 1167 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: as a somebody that just knows both of y'all and 1168 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: know that at one point it was really love. 1169 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 4: I think that nigga just try to I think that 1170 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 4: nigga just try to, uh try to like, you know, 1171 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 4: use my energy in some type of way. If I 1172 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 4: feel like if he couldn't use it by doing songs 1173 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: with me, he was looking for a situation. I mean, everybody, 1174 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 4: we people know how he go. He was looking for 1175 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 4: a situation, you know what I mean. And this ain't 1176 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 4: what he wanted. 1177 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: That's just simple. The thing. You know what I'm saying, I. 1178 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 4: Don't I don't hate. I don't hate that man. I'm 1179 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 4: a stream I'm a gangster for real, he and not 1180 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: on what I'm on. So I don't hate him this music, 1181 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. For a person who I 1182 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 4: sat on a video with and done songs with and 1183 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 4: then be going on Twitter like that ain't me. 1184 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: That's his shit. 1185 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: I did that ship just to show him like, you 1186 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: can't even beat me at this. 1187 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 3: Do you feel like your quote was it an interview 1188 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 3: or someone you were saying that you didn't want to do. 1189 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to misquote you whatever, whatever the Freddy 1190 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: gives quote. That's what I saw. As far as the 1191 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: timeline goes, it's when I started the old thing that 1192 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: you said you didn't want to look. 1193 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 4: Look and I don't even like to talk about this, 1194 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 4: but like I said, I wanted to be talking about 1195 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 4: this if I wasn't with y'all. That's what I was 1196 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 4: telling somebody else, you know. You know, people do interviews 1197 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 4: with him and call me like, yo, just let you know. 1198 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: I did that. 1199 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, hey did this ship? 1200 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1201 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 4: But when I when I I'm not trying to be 1202 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 4: a tough guy or knowing nothing like that. But in 1203 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 4: this situation, whenever I reacted, it's been heavier. So people 1204 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 4: like damn. But like you said, you ain't see nothing 1205 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 4: until that. Hebro he already he was already a year 1206 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 4: talking about niggas go to Houston get shot. That was 1207 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 4: a year since then. It make the news when I 1208 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 4: speak on it. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, whatever 1209 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 4: he did, whatever you see me, you see me go 1210 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 4: crazy that day, you know what I mean, it's because 1211 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 4: he did, so nobody know when. 1212 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: I go damn, you know what I mean. So that's 1213 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1214 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 4: So I got to realize is that people look at 1215 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 4: me as in a different light, how they look at 1216 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 4: this guy. 1217 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, They're like, man, that's just him. 1218 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 2: That's just him. People look at me like you got 1219 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: more sense, or like, bro, what you doing? 1220 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? 1221 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, shit, we don't expect that from you. 1222 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 4: The responsibility shit were talking about. You know what I'm saying. 1223 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: It's like but basically that's what it is. I don't 1224 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: know what it's over. I mean, yeah, because I'm on 1225 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 2: Twitter one day I see that shit. 1226 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, what last time I seen that nigga I 1227 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 4: went to I was at his Grammy shit, and I'm 1228 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 4: a street nigga. I don't be I don't fuck with 1229 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 4: niggas or standing around these niggas to get songs with him. 1230 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 2: If we don't fuck around, we don't fuck around. You 1231 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That nigga was acting like me, 1232 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 2: like like like he fucked with me. Like, Yo, what 1233 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 2: I thow there? 1234 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: That niggas see me? Nigga? That nigga see me? 1235 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 4: When I seen that nigga at that Grammy shit, the 1236 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 4: first thing he said to me, I was on the crutches. 1237 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 4: The first thing that nigga fred he said to me, 1238 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 4: walk them sit. Nigga, who we gotta kill? I said, everybody, 1239 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 4: you started talking about rap? 1240 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, So it's like, I mean, 1241 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He all good man, But 1242 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's mother. 1243 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 3: I believe that people could just coexist, Like it doesn't 1244 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 3: have to be fucking cool by y'all and y'all have 1245 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: to be friends or anything. But what what does it take? 1246 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: We were just talking about I don't want to see 1247 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: y'all should go to. 1248 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 3: Exact about the Georgia At what point? But come up 1249 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 3: with a way to just stop y'all don't have to 1250 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 3: be cool. But what would it take for y'all to just. 1251 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: You gotta keep my name out of his mom? That's simple. 1252 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 4: You don't talk about nobody getting shot, especially some ship 1253 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 4: that's bottom with it. Like I said, I hate to 1254 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 4: talk about this ship. This want to be going viral, 1255 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 4: But you don't talk about that, especially if it wasn't 1256 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 4: in that room. Every street nigga know that, man, And 1257 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 4: if you're talking about it, we canna carry you like 1258 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 4: you was like you did it, then everybody know that. 1259 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 3: Would you be open to a conversation with him this? 1260 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: It's nothing to talk about. He could co exist. I 1261 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: don't want to talk. 1262 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 4: I'm not talking to nobody who to nobody, I'm going 1263 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: to be a rapper to nobody who talk about me 1264 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 4: getting shot? 1265 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: And then I almost lost my life. 1266 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, understandable. 1267 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 2: Ain't totally nobody you could coexist. It's all good. Yeah, 1268 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: that's what I wanted. That's what I wanted to. Like, Bro, 1269 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: you what you're doing, bron we're talking about that a 1270 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: word as a nigga who acts like you fuck with me? 1271 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: Come on, as a nigga who said, who we gotta Yeah, Man, 1272 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: that ain't that. Ain't that ain't gangster? 1273 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: That ain't that. 1274 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 4: Ain't want hundred you know what I'm saying. So, but 1275 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to. I want I want people to know. 1276 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 4: I want the world to know that that's how these rappers are. 1277 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: So I'm not even blaming him. It's for me. 1278 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,439 Speaker 4: I got to learn how to navigate just how after 1279 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 4: this ship happened in Houston or after if I don't 1280 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 4: work with a mad labels. 1281 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: Of Flying Street, street ethics and coach to the rap 1282 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: music Shi what I was about to ask candulity for 1283 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: putting you thought. 1284 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 3: Y'all was not just rapper friends. Not. 1285 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: No. I knew we were only rapper friends. 1286 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 3: I expectation. 1287 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: I guess he ain't be my other friend but me 1288 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 2: and my other friends. 1289 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, But it was like. 1290 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 4: I didn't I seen it on TV and heard about 1291 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 4: it in the game, but I ain't know, like these 1292 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 4: niggas will be together and then just we're nigga, just 1293 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 4: make up some ship out of nowhere, like make a 1294 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 4: problem with you. So I'm like, oh, those sort of 1295 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 4: shit really happened. 1296 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. 1297 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 4: We look goofy as fuck. We on the songs together 1298 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 4: and went on tour together. Then this I'm not that 1299 00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 4: type of nigga. 1300 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm solid. Anybody can vouch with me. I'm not right. 1301 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 2: So whatever he got going on, I know he gonna say, 1302 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: well he did it. 1303 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: Asked that nigga. 1304 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 4: What Bennie the Butcher did him to have him be 1305 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 4: talking about some ship on Twitter? You're trying to sell 1306 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 4: some records. 1307 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: That's disappointing. I see. 1308 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 2: I only asked you honestly, bro, because I really did 1309 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: not know how what happened. 1310 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: Nobody knows why. 1311 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 3: Nobody knows because was like, Yo, can you tell me 1312 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 3: what's going on with is this confused? 1313 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: The ship out of me? 1314 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody. 1315 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody, like I said, I'm only 1316 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 4: talking about this because I'm saying I'm kicking it with y'all. 1317 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 4: But I was talking to somebody and it was like, yeah, man, 1318 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 4: I just feel like you and you had. I'm like, man, 1319 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 4: cause y'all don't know because it's only a thing. When 1320 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 4: I say it's not a thing, he going back, he 1321 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 4: was tight. He tweeted that ship on Twitter like a 1322 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 4: year and a half ago. Nobody knew because I didn't reply, 1323 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So as soon as I 1324 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 4: spoke about it, now it's a thing. And I was 1325 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 4: on every blog. 1326 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whatever he woke up. 1327 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 4: When you see that ship that I did, when you 1328 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 4: see me on World stop whatever, when it went whatever 1329 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 4: he woke up and did that day. 1330 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: Nobody don't know that. I know. You know what I'm saying. 1331 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 2: So I did what I did. They're like, damn been 1332 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 2: and you. 1333 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1334 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 4: It's like it always come back to me. You feel 1335 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I got a chill. 1336 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: When he did. 1337 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 3: When he did tweet it, though, did you feel like 1338 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 3: you wanted to reach out to him and just let 1339 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 3: me take note and move. 1340 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: How I move. 1341 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to reach out to him. I wanted to 1342 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 4: see where it was head was at like that was 1343 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 4: a year and a half ago. Yeah, before it got public. 1344 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 4: I wanted to reach out to him just to check. 1345 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 3: Like, yo, you tempert your check, Like why you say 1346 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 3: that ship? 1347 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 4: That was about what I mean? Yeah, I wanted to see. Yeah, 1348 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 4: nigga got to think it back, like what did I say? 1349 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: What I mean? 1350 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 4: But you also know, man, sometimes these rap niggas be 1351 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 4: like you seen that Michael Jordan shit, and I took 1352 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 4: that personally. 1353 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything personal. 1354 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 4: They take everything personally, so nigga might but the geared 1355 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: up in his head Mike thought that. I said, I 1356 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 4: don't know, and I really don't care, you know what 1357 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I just want people to know that 1358 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 4: because I'll be getting I'll be getting flagged back like 1359 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 4: I started, like. 1360 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm bothering this man. 1361 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 4: I got way more ship to do what I'm saying. 1362 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 4: But I knew soon as they let Buffalo niggas in 1363 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 4: the game, I knew he was gonna beat up a rapper. 1364 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I knew that was gonna happen. 1365 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 4: Not to be on no tough guys, but I just 1366 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 4: know a nigga was gonna underestimate niggas was playing or 1367 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: thinking she was going she was gonna go let for that, nigga. 1368 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's just what I do. 1369 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to see it go any further because, 1370 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: like I said, I fuck with both of y'all, and 1371 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: I think that you know, at one point it was 1372 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: some chemistry, good chemistry there and and we just don't 1373 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: need that ship. We had enough of that. 1374 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 4: We don't We don't need it. I'm not a goofy, 1375 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. This shit got niggas. I'm 1376 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 4: not a goofy, you know what I mean? And anybody 1377 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 4: could vouch for that. So just like and that's another thing, 1378 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 4: like you got me looking like a goofy. 1379 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 1380 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got people got my niggas asking me this 1381 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 2: shit in an interview. I ain't do nothing, bro, what 1382 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying I feel you. 1383 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 3: Of course they're just gonna put it on you because 1384 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 3: the city it happened and all the legiship that that 1385 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 3: we don't really need to get into detail for. I 1386 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 3: do hope with this album rollout that that does not 1387 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 3: become a thing, because again, y'all don't need to be 1388 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 3: best friends, I just want that ship to stop. 1389 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 2: Like, man, he just gotta he just gotta stop, just stop. 1390 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 4: And I don't because, like like you said, like he's 1391 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 4: he did with he there for a year. 1392 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 2: I kept quiet for a year. 1393 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 4: But then you know, his album coming and rolling out, 1394 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 4: so he's saying more and more just so it was 1395 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 4: like a you know what I mean, It is what 1396 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 4: it is, though, I. 1397 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 3: Mean at one point we don't have to make it 1398 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: a freddy thing. At what point do you just ignore ship, 1399 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 3: especially like with popularity, Let's let's not even put it 1400 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 3: with rappers, like even fans or any type of criticism 1401 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 3: or anything to be said about you, Like have you 1402 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 3: gotten better ignoring ship? Like it's not even worth the 1403 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 3: energy to. 1404 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 4: Get I'm getting better. I'm getting better, Like for every 1405 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 4: negative thing in my life, Like if somebody say something 1406 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 4: negative to me, I try to like to respond to 1407 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 4: somebody who says something positive. For every time somebody do 1408 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 4: something negative to me, every time somebody like pissed me off, 1409 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 4: I try to like call somebody else and like uplift 1410 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,760 Speaker 4: they they like yo, man, like man, you're going crazy. 1411 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 4: It's I try to do the opposite. I try to 1412 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. I'm working on myself. Man, 1413 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 4: I promise I'm working on myself. But that's supportant as 1414 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 4: long as you're doing that. 1415 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 3: As far as the Benny therapy bag if we want to, 1416 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 3: so we can do a Beny therapy bag. He wants 1417 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,959 Speaker 3: to be working on the selfish. 1418 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: And I'm working on myself. How is how is life 1419 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: on a on a personal level for you right now? 1420 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 3: Like? 1421 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 1: Are you happy? Yeah? Man, yeah, I'm happy. I don't 1422 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: know if I like that tone, Bunny, I don't know, Man, 1423 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: it ain't sound unlievable. 1424 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm happy, but I'm not content, okay. 1425 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 4: And it's just and I got a lot of people 1426 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,919 Speaker 4: around me who think this is the end game. 1427 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm happy. So it's like, man, I'm just looking looking 1428 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: way down the road. 1429 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 3: But you think you'll only be happy if you're content. 1430 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like that's I feel like that's the 1431 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 4: thing for men, A lot of men. We can't be 1432 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 4: happy or be blessing in no one's else life until 1433 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 4: we're content. 1434 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: But guess what I do. 1435 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 4: Might not need a hundred million dollars to be content. 1436 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 4: I might need one hundred seashells. I might want to 1437 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 4: collect seashells, whatever, whatever, it makes us content in our heart. 1438 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 4: And my thing is not money, is doing what I 1439 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 4: love to do and be and being Like in that 1440 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 4: one record, I said, being up feel good, but not 1441 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 4: better than being sure. 1442 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I want to wake up 1443 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: and be sure every day. You know what I'm saying. 1444 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 3: I feel like we men and just having an ego 1445 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 3: and nuts and just testosterone all that shit. I could 1446 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 3: say what I think will make me consent and then 1447 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 3: I'll get it and I won't be content because I 1448 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 3: go to the next thing. So at that point, it's like, 1449 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 3: you can't find happiness in being content because we probably 1450 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 3: won't be consent. That's part of ambition. But we have 1451 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 3: to get to the next level. But you're right, like 1452 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 3: right now you're nominated for Lyricists of the Year. You 1453 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 3: go win tomorrow a right, next thing, grammy right, but content, 1454 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 3: you can appreciate it, all right, because but can't make 1455 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 3: you happy. 1456 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 4: Happiness is a journey, So you got to keep finding 1457 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 4: different things to give you that happiness, to give you 1458 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 4: that joy, to make you intent. And it might be 1459 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 4: like you said today, it might be this. That's the 1460 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 4: thing about men, and the men were conquerors with journey ers. 1461 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 4: We like to know what I'm saying, we like to 1462 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 4: do shit like that. So today I might motherfucking wake up. 1463 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: You see. 1464 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 4: You see guys like Luda, Christian elkoj and Ic they acting. 1465 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. These moos came out and 1466 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 4: sold tons of records. I'm saying now they switched over 1467 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 4: to acting, and uh, you never know who might fall 1468 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 4: on your heart. 1469 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 3: But where do you find fulfillment outside of work in 1470 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,439 Speaker 3: the family. 1471 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, and just traveling, seeing new things, man, and 1472 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 4: just being and just being in places where there's no 1473 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 4: expectations of me. And just like where we got to 1474 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 4: go today, we don't got to go nowhere. A lot 1475 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 4: of times when I do. I went to Saint Thomas 1476 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 4: and uh, when I was just the man, I love 1477 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 4: Saint Thomas. I went to Saint Thomas and didn't really 1478 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 4: lead a mansion and didn't go nowhere. I was just chilling, 1479 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 4: just eating food. I did that a couple of. 1480 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: Times in Vegas. I do that a lot. 1481 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't need to leave because I didn't come 1482 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 4: out to go club and I just came to chill 1483 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 4: and just relax, Like I was watching. 1484 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: What's that you called it? Man? 1485 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 2: What's that ship with it? Ozark? 1486 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 4: I watched like crazy hours of Ozark falling asleep on 1487 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 4: the couch and then I got one of them couches. 1488 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: From my house. 1489 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm tying has a good sleep right there. 1490 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 1491 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 4: So when I'm just doing nothing, you know what I'm saying. 1492 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 4: We do so much important, my soul into everything so much. 1493 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes I just like to do nothing. 1494 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is this So at one point, 1495 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure when you started out rapping and 1496 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,439 Speaker 1: back in Buffalo and you know, now you're like at 1497 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: the BT Hip Hop Awards nominated for Lyricists of the Year. 1498 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: That journey are you happy with? Or should I say 1499 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: are you Did you think that it would be what 1500 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: it was or what it is is? Did it meet 1501 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: your expectations? Like now that you I'm sure you used 1502 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: to watch the b T Hip Hop Awards. Now you're 1503 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: nominated for Lyricists of the Year, Like speak to the 1504 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: kid that's in the situation. You were back in Buffalo 1505 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: looking at the awards like like that journey is it 1506 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: everything you thought it would be? Yeah? 1507 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 4: The journey was and the journey is the best part. 1508 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. The journey is the best part. 1509 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 2: Man. 1510 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 4: I said this on camera before. Man, I've been grinding 1511 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 4: so long in Buffalo, y'all know that shit. 1512 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: It's like for for for a. 1513 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 4: Moment of time, I couldn't even watch the BET Hip 1514 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 4: Hop Awards, the met Awards period. 1515 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 2: I didn't want to see that ship. 1516 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 4: I felt like I needed to be there, and I 1517 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 4: felt like, where was my career going? Where's my life going? 1518 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 4: But you hear that, You're like, with the nerve of me, 1519 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 4: that's some crazy shit. As I think about it now, 1520 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 4: that's so crazy. Look how you're talking now, these niggas 1521 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 4: real shit. Yeah, just watching that ship I could I'm like, man, 1522 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 4: I ain't watching this shit because I supposed to be there, 1523 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 4: like the nerve of me. 1524 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: But now I'm here. 1525 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 4: So I was right about something, and I would tell 1526 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 4: the kids, man, put your best foot forward. See a 1527 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 4: lot of people don't understand about when you become an artist. 1528 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 4: It's not about who could cater to you, you. 1529 01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Know what I mean? 1530 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 4: Like you gotta think these labels give you this money 1531 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 4: like you did shit for them. You know what I'm saying. 1532 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 4: For all of us who ain't named Aubrey a little baby. 1533 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that, it's a lot of 1534 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 4: us who name ain't that. So a lot of times 1535 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 4: when they give you the bread, like Depth Jam give 1536 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 4: me the bread, like they're not sure I'm gonna recoup 1537 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 4: that money, you know what I'm saying, They do benings 1538 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 4: with people a lot of times who they were shut like, 1539 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 4: ain't fucking Justin Bieber signed to. 1540 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Depth Jam, you know what I'm saying. 1541 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 4: At so it's like, man, it's just like you got 1542 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 4: to give your awe to this, like people don't know 1543 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 4: you gotta give you all to this. And it's not 1544 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 4: a lot of times it's artists. Sometimes we think like, man, 1545 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: what could these people do for me? When you're starting 1546 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 4: from the bottom, it's like, no, what could you do 1547 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 4: for these people? How could you become an asset? And 1548 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 4: that's what I just try to do. I just try 1549 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 4: to become an asset in the room. I try to 1550 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 4: never never, never need west Side Gun man. I never 1551 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 4: asked west Side Gun for nothing. I always bring that 1552 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 4: up because not saying that I never needed I just 1553 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,959 Speaker 4: knew a whole bunch of other motherfuckers was acting for sure. 1554 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1555 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 4: Other favors, I needed it, I didn't need I didn't 1556 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 4: need him to be like, Okay, I got to this 1557 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 4: BT ship going on, and I got this studio session 1558 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 4: going on. I could bring Benny, but I ain't calling 1559 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 4: that nigga. That nigga gonna need it. He's gonna need 1560 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 4: some money. I mean, I ain't calling. I don't even 1561 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 4: want to. I didn't want to be that. I didn't 1562 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 4: want to bring that energy towards him. So I never 1563 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 4: asked him for nothing. I just wanted to become an 1564 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 4: asset to him. 1565 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 3: Did that come from? 1566 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: So? 1567 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Because I don't know if you even remember this. We 1568 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 3: were outside the Universal building, I think right before West 1569 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 3: had signed that Shady deal. 1570 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: You and West. 1571 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 3: I ran into y'all like in the lobby, and I'd 1572 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 3: be like, I was like, are you signing with that? 1573 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 3: She was like, no, I'm not signing nothing with Shady 1574 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 3: at all. Like that's all a Westside resulta thing. This 1575 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 3: is way before a Rock Nation anything like that. Is 1576 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 3: that when you started to like soak up what labels 1577 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 3: can and cannot do for you and what's really old 1578 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 3: and what's not as far as that went, because you 1579 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,120 Speaker 3: was just with West like right as his man's going 1580 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 3: up to the. 1581 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 4: Meeting, right right right, Man I did, and man I 1582 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 4: wanted to be signed to Shady Record so fucking bad. 1583 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 4: Like I said, imagine not being a BT war not 1584 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 4: watching that shit. And then my cousin getting signed, both 1585 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 4: my cousins, and they telling me like, yo, we got 1586 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 4: this deal, we got were about to do this, were 1587 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 4: about to do that. And it's like, man, I'm around Shady, 1588 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm around Paul, I'm around Mike. 1589 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: I met him. 1590 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 4: Where's my contract? You know what I'm saying, But you 1591 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 4: know I didn't need it. Like what they've done for 1592 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 4: me was enough. Shout out Mike including me on that. 1593 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 4: What was she ain't gonna do too? I'm saying, people 1594 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 4: don't know. That started, as I'm telling the business here, 1595 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 4: that started ass spurs album, Benny and Conway. To be 1596 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 4: honest with you, that started as that. And then after 1597 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 4: Mike put that idea together, it's like, okay, let me 1598 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 4: run it past Wes. 1599 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Wes is like shit, I'm getting on it too. 1600 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: What were doing? 1601 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 4: All three of us, Let's go. We're like okay, let's go, 1602 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 4: and he curated that and that's how it came out. 1603 01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 4: But Eminem didn't have a problem with me coming and 1604 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 4: rapping on that shit with BT in that cipher. You 1605 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That was the biggest moment in 1606 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 4: my career. I remember getting I remember getting like four 1607 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 4: thousand followers that night, like you know, that's heavy. 1608 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 2: And that's when I was in the teens. 1609 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1610 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched it and they never showed it on 1611 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 4: They never showed it on the episode, but they showed 1612 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 4: it on BT. I mean they showed it on the internet. 1613 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 4: And I remember like watching that. I was living in 1614 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 4: the projects watching that ship the whole time, like when 1615 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 4: we're coming on, but throughout the whole I'm getting followers 1616 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 4: throughout the whole episode, you know what I'm saying. So 1617 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm forever thankful. And I just realized that I didn't 1618 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 4: need to sign to them. And that's what these artists 1619 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 4: don't know. And that's what Jay trying to tell us 1620 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 4: a lot, like you don't need to do that. You 1621 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 4: might think like, yo, I gotta sign this contractor gotta 1622 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, You don't need to do 1623 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 4: that all the time. You got to have your own reasons. 1624 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 4: It's like you might want the money from them, but 1625 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 4: there's certain rooms you might want to be in. You 1626 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 4: can get in them rooms yourself. You know what I'm saying. 1627 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't want to make sure shady. I know 1628 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 3: you're watching and hate maure and I anytime we sit 1629 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 3: with someone from Griselta, I actually was I think that's 1630 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 3: dope that they gave y'all those looks and you weren't 1631 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 3: even signed to them. So I know Mike and Mike 1632 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 3: is my god. 1633 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love Mike and sometimes you know what. 1634 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 3: Mike ran down my number through Derek to everyone in Griselda, 1635 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 3: then text me and then never text me again. 1636 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: He just wanted to shake you up a little bit 1637 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: through the. 1638 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 3: Text and when you talk, I was like, I'm freeing 1639 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 3: thirty minutes, never heard from again. 1640 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, damn you Mike. That kind of guy. Man. 1641 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 3: Mike also thinks I'm not creative. 1642 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Well that's that was That was That was him throwing 1643 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: a shot at you. What Mike? That was that was 1644 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 1: him throwing. 1645 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 3: Shot randomly tweeting about me. 1646 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 4: But I think Griselda do get a bad like they'd 1647 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 4: be like damn. It was a bad Blood from Griselda 1648 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 4: Shady Man. We thankful for them, dudes. You gotta think, man, 1649 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 4: we came in a game with eminem Yeah, I came 1650 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 4: in a game with him through Azelda signed the Rock 1651 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 4: Nation with whole got brought to Depth Gym by Snoop, Right, 1652 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's that's making heavy coat SATs. 1653 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah? 1654 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think anytime, because we do respect 1655 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 3: Shady and that entire building, that they think we're saying 1656 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 3: foul things about them. We asked, like, all right, what 1657 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 3: happened with the Shady deal? Like we talk with Conway 1658 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 3: and soul House, It's like, oh, I didn't feel Shady's 1659 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 3: presence on this one, and they take everything to personal. 1660 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 3: I always just found that weird because I think out 1661 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 3: of their whole roster, I don't think there's been a 1662 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 3: media platform that's put Griselda Westside Boogie like number one 1663 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 3: as far as the music we talk about and play. 1664 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 3: So I want to end our shady beef with Benny today. 1665 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:32,200 Speaker 2: What they thought was the shady I saw Paul at 1666 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: the West Side Boogie show last week and he was 1667 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 2: blocking the bathroom door at the Green Roomne wasn't sure 1668 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 2: if it was static or not. 1669 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 3: He's a big dude. I couldn't move right right. I 1670 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 3: want to get into some soprano questions. Favorite character from 1671 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 3: the Soprano series. 1672 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 4: Man got to be Tony, Okay, got to be Tony. 1673 01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 4: Like Tony's a fucking maniac, crazy, He's a he's a narcissist. 1674 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1675 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 4: I just like watching that character on fold. You know 1676 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 4: what I'm saying that the imperfections of them, you know, 1677 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 4: I mean a lot of times they try to give 1678 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 4: us these perfect characters, you know what I'm saying, Like 1679 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 4: that dude, there's anything but perfect, you know what I'm saying. 1680 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 2: And I identify it with that. 1681 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like The Sopranos was the first 1682 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 3: TV show to give us a character that was a 1683 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 3: piece of shit, But like we were rooting for them 1684 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 3: the whole time. We liked him, We identified with him. 1685 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,919 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, let's find. 1686 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 2: How many times you like Tony too far? 1687 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 3: Even to stop fucking these Russian strippers, Tony, you have kids. 1688 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: So Benny the butcher, mm hmm, can you cook? And 1689 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: I ain't talking about what I think you're talking about nigga. 1690 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about can Benny the butcher cook You're vegan though, yeah, 1691 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: you still got to cook well. 1692 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 3: Butcher's cut meat. 1693 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:53,719 Speaker 4: Paulse Well cut some mushrooms is vegan meat, Yeah, exactly, mushrooms, 1694 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,559 Speaker 4: thank you. But no, I can't, Okay, I can't. I 1695 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 4: can't cook ship. I could make waffles, pancakes, French to 1696 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 4: breakfast food. I kill that ship. We always go to 1697 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 4: that white niggas always go to breakfast. My niggas want 1698 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 4: the eggs sandwich right now. Niggas want some French toast. 1699 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 4: Niggas want some pancakes. 1700 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the first thing we learned how 1701 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: to make is breakfast. The first thing we know how 1702 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: to do is scramble eggs, make some bacon. And then 1703 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: when we really really know how to cook is make 1704 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: a good pancake. Don't burn the pancake. 1705 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 4: My real ship only see all the bubbles when you 1706 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 4: see the bubbles. But I can't cook for ship. 1707 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Man. 1708 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,560 Speaker 4: I know what, man, I could count on my I'm 1709 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 4: thirty seven years old, and I can count on my 1710 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 4: hand how many times I attempted the fry chicken, and 1711 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 4: I will still have fingers left maybe three times in 1712 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 4: my life. 1713 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so we just we just we just created a 1714 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: new TV show for Bennie Man. Ship. 1715 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 2: That's the one thing I'm gonna do. 1716 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 4: You haven't been to the restaurant, I mean the supermarkets 1717 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 4: with the deal already, with the dish already made. You 1718 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 4: just got to heat it up a little. Yeah, like 1719 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna fuck people up one day, you know what 1720 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm like exactly, or or I want to 1721 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 4: learn how to master one dish and cook that ship 1722 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 4: all the time. 1723 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 3: We should do a food because Bufalo is a great 1724 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 3: food city, like outside of the audience with wings and Ship, 1725 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 3: but Buffalo is like a really good food city. We 1726 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 3: should do some type of segment. Yeah, what's outside of food? 1727 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: Cook? 1728 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 3: I definitely cook. That's my that's my little therapy. 1729 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Ship is and just cooked a Yeah. But I could 1730 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: cook something, Okay, Yeah, I can't do ship, man. I 1731 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: can't do nothing in the city of Buffalo. How does 1732 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: it feel now, aside from probably Rick James being like 1733 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 1: some of the most famous, most infamous artists out of 1734 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: the city. 1735 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 2: Man, it's dope. 1736 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: It's lovely. And did you ever meet Rick James? 1737 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 4: I never met Rick James. I never met Rick, never 1738 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 4: got the chance to meet him. But this is what 1739 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 4: it's like from being for being a kid from the 1740 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 4: East Side of Buffalo, and then you make it, but 1741 01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 4: you're in the same city, but it's not like the 1742 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 4: same city. That's when I realized it's not even black 1743 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 4: and white, it's rich and poor. I'm allowed from having 1744 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 4: his money and having his influence. I'm allowed in so 1745 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 4: many other rooms. 1746 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 2: And it's like I don't like I be in Buffalo 1747 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 2: a lot, like but I don't be where I used 1748 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,839 Speaker 2: to be, Like it's a whole different Buffalo. 1749 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 4: Like I got new friends, I do different shit. So 1750 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 4: it's like I love it. I love the diversity that 1751 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 4: I that that the new found fame bring me my 1752 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 4: family and other parts of the city too, because I'm 1753 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 4: still coming with them, still pulling up with the East 1754 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 4: Side with me. So it's like, that's dope that we 1755 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 4: get to you know what I'm saying. See everything in 1756 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,799 Speaker 4: the city got to offer. 1757 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed like so much since since like 1758 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: y'all took off and really seen success, it seemed like 1759 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: just Buffalo, like the Bills are even playing great. That's crazy, 1760 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: YA might need. You might need stocking the team. They 1761 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 1: might need to get y'all some stock in the Buffalo Bills. Man, 1762 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,680 Speaker 1: they might. Man, I think, man, because y'all made it 1763 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: cool to be in Buffalo. 1764 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 4: Now, Atlanta did it, Saint Louis did it. A lot 1765 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 4: of cities did it. Yeah, and I think Buffalo the 1766 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 4: sports team is hot, the music is hot. That's why 1767 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 4: we showed them support man. Yeah, because it's like me, 1768 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 4: we and this ship together. 1769 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you have to. You got to support each other. 1770 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 2: I was at the fucking what's this ship? I was 1771 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 2: just at the Giants What the Giants? 1772 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys? 1773 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 2: Giants Cowboys gang? 1774 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: That was crazy. 1775 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I was in the 1776 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 4: sweet with all the rich motherfuckers. I was in the 1777 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 4: Sweet the motherfuckers with ray Liui. 1778 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Man. 1779 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 4: I forgot his name. Man, I apologize forget your name. 1780 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 4: But this dude owns a bank. You banked the letter 1781 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 4: you like he owned a bank. 1782 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying. 1783 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 4: He was telling me how he had ninety four hundred acres. Right, 1784 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 4: It's like crazy ship. 1785 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like what you tweat 1786 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: that ray Lewis almost broke your hand. 1787 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,600 Speaker 4: He did, Yo, ray Lewis shook my hand. Seriously, you 1788 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 4: shook my hand and it hurt it. Yeah, but you 1789 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 4: get No. I walked away two minutes later. I'm just 1790 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 4: chilling and I'm and I realized two minutes I'm like. 1791 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 1: My shit still worked. I'm like, what the fuck? He did? 1792 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: Still know me? No? 1793 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 4: I shook his hand, I met him, and then I 1794 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 4: went back to take a picture. So you see the picture. 1795 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 4: He got his arm around him. 1796 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he's like a sofa. Yeah, you know 1797 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 1: it's like God, damn ray Yeah, like real ship. Yeah. 1798 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 3: Actually on my I g But we was with Mike 1799 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 3: Tyson and we were, you know, taking a bunch of 1800 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 3: group photos or whatever, and then Mike was like, let's 1801 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 3: take a solo pick and it's Mike Tyson is my 1802 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 3: favorite fighter ever. Of course he did like the dapt photo. Yeah, 1803 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 3: you could see the fear in my fucking eyes. My 1804 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 3: whole hand was for the rest of the day. 1805 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Your dog. So we went We did the Mike Tyson 1806 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,280 Speaker 1: podcast a while ago, and you know, the whole time 1807 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 1: to ride over there, you know, it's like this is 1808 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: Mike Man. So it's like we kind of like niggas 1809 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 1: is excited, but niggas also like, but what Mike were 1810 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: getting because you just hear stories about you don't know 1811 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: what we're getting with Mike Tyson, you getting Mike come in. 1812 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 1: We had at the at the office. He come in 1813 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 1: and I wasn't expecting him to be so soft spoken 1814 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: and friendly. But then, like you know, after we did 1815 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the episode, we smoking me talking and Mike like the 1816 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: he like one of them niggas that like to play 1817 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: with his hand. I'm like, we're not gonna do that. 1818 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: I'll do that with every other nigga in this We're 1819 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: not doing that. We're not playing with the hands with you. No. 1820 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 3: He was shadow boxing in the kitchen and it was like. 1821 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like yeah, it was just like, oh no, 1822 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,879 Speaker 4: you still know how to The athletes are machines, many machines. 1823 01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 4: Even after the pro days, man, they're still conditions all 1824 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 4: from all them years and conditioning. 1825 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: They're still in shape, man, Mike. 1826 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 3: Mike might have been the only time I've ever been 1827 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 3: started strucking mindenthire life. 1828 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was big me and Mike Tyson was definitely 1829 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: like and then you know, he fucked us up when 1830 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: he told us that he was you know, it put 1831 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,720 Speaker 1: things in perspective for me to always say that that 1832 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 1: that interview and that that conversation with Mike Tyson changed 1833 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot for me when he told us before every 1834 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 1: fight he was scared to death, and I looked at 1835 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,640 Speaker 1: him like what he said? You know, no, I was. 1836 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I used to be in the locker room scared to 1837 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 1: death like every fight. I'm like Mike, we used to 1838 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: be at the house and knowing you about to knock 1839 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: this nigga the fuck out, were talking about it. Don't 1840 01:14:59,160 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 1: order to fight. 1841 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 2: He's gonna be down and he's gonna be out in 1842 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 2: two minutes. Paid a hundred dollars for this ship. 1843 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I was scared to death every single fight. 1844 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 1: And to me, that puts so many things in perspective 1845 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, if we think who the baddest, toughest 1846 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,800 Speaker 1: dude on the planet is, if he's telling me that 1847 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 1: he was scared, then that's a natural thing, Like, Okay, 1848 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 1: we can all this, we can all be scared. 1849 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 4: Real ship, if Mike was shook, he punished a lot 1850 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 4: of them dudes and he was scared. I still go 1851 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 4: back and watch that ship. Yeah YouTube, of course, what. 1852 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Uh how much money would it take to be Mike's 1853 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 3: sparring partner training for a fight? 1854 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, nah, I'm cool. I like ship. Might not 1855 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: read like I like my health. I'm not herman the situation. 1856 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm not jumping in the ring with Mike. 1857 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,679 Speaker 3: I've I've done some ship to chase my dreams before, 1858 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 3: but I could never imagine if boxing was like my 1859 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 3: main dream and the way to get there would be 1860 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 3: to be mike sparring part Like, all right, you gotta 1861 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 3: do this bullshit job to get to the next level. 1862 01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 3: Let me spar with Mike. 1863 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,679 Speaker 1: Is a bitch, right, You can't. It's a lot of shit. 1864 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 2: You can't do it. 1865 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 1: Rib breathe can't sit up exactly. You don't want bruises. Yeah. 1866 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,760 Speaker 3: My cousin used to box professionally and I still spar 1867 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 3: with him. And he broke my ribs last year by 1868 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 3: accident because he didn't realized, like, I'm not a professional boxer. 1869 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't know why he didn't realize it. 1870 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Like, don't like that he. 1871 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 3: Broke my ribs. Every movement, every breath you take. I 1872 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 3: didn't realize your ribs legitimately is like the source of 1873 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 3: your body exactly. But I couldn't even breathe correctly for 1874 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 3: six weeks. 1875 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing that you woke up and read 1876 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,719 Speaker 1: about yourself on the internet that was absolutely not true? 1877 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: And he was like, all right, I might be more 1878 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 1: famous than I thought to that. 1879 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 4: Them saying I got seven million dollars. Okay, I don't 1880 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,600 Speaker 4: have seven millionaires. 1881 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: You know that's crazy. 1882 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, damn, I'm like, what the fuck did 1883 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 4: I wear yesterday? 1884 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck? 1885 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 2: You know? 1886 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying that the net the Google networth ship people, 1887 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 4: Let's let me know. If people don't know the value 1888 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 4: of money, they don't know because you know, people's believing 1889 01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 4: that shit. 1890 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah know my mom My mom googled my name 1891 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 3: and legitimately called me not even on some funny ship 1892 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 3: it said I was worth four million dollars and my 1893 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 3: mom was mad at me. So you've been just holding 1894 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 3: money sometimes? Like I swear on everything I said, I 1895 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 3: would have my mom come on our podcast and explain 1896 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 3: that ship. She called me up. She was like, you 1897 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 3: have four million fucking dollars and you just haven't told 1898 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 3: me real ship. 1899 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom called me. It was a thing at 1900 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 1: one point that I was dating Cash Doll. 1901 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 3: Well that was that was the thing though. 1902 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: She was like, no, no, that seriously, that's how she 1903 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: called me. She was like, oh, so you were cash 1904 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: all together? 1905 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 3: I said, who, I'm not knowing your mother never even 1906 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 3: met her. It's funny your mom would know who Cash 1907 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 3: Doll was. 1908 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 2: That's what I was. 1909 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking? I'm like, my get 1910 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: off the internet, like you just googling some ship and 1911 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: now you're reading everything, and now you're coming to me 1912 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: with it. 1913 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,559 Speaker 3: I have was a weird question. I feel like we 1914 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 3: should have asked more guests and rappers. How do rappers 1915 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 3: view the podcast world? That again, how do rappers view 1916 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 3: the podcast world? 1917 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 2: Like this boom of a whole new thing. 1918 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 4: We on your heels, we trying to start, y'all see us. Yeah, 1919 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 4: we love it because it's like different, it's taking over. 1920 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 4: I don't know what is what is it about these 1921 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 4: conversations that intrigue people so much. 1922 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,640 Speaker 1: I think it's because I think what we do, we 1923 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 1: always try to make sure we have some type of 1924 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 1: personal connection. 1925 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,160 Speaker 2: Exactly because the ship I'm saying right here, I'm not. 1926 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 1: Talking about it, I know, but that's but this is 1927 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, this is what it is different. But I 1928 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: think that's what the beauty and podcasting well for us. 1929 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 1: Our angle is always you know, we don't like to 1930 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,919 Speaker 1: get people on a press run because you kind of programmed, 1931 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 1: you're in a press run, you answering things a certain way, 1932 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to answer certain things. So we try 1933 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 1: to keep it to where it just feels like more 1934 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,559 Speaker 1: of a conversation. Like I don't even like holding this 1935 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: mic because I feel like I can't. We're just like 1936 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I got a mic in my hand. This means this 1937 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: is going out to somewhere, Like I like to just 1938 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 1: sit and talk to people that I already kind of 1939 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: like have some type of relationship with. They know that, 1940 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 1: you know, I can ask whatever, it's just and vice versa. 1941 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: You can ask me whatever you want to ask. I 1942 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, hop on bull shit and 1943 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 1: talk about bullshit that people probably ask you every day, 1944 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,800 Speaker 1: and just have you know, just just a different level 1945 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 1: of conversation, like a more you know, not just I 1946 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to Bennie the Butcher. You know 1947 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 1: what I mean, I get it and I can feel that, yeah, 1948 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: like we talk about ship you know and it's certain 1949 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: ship I would never talk about on Mike with you, 1950 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 1: But I just feel like you and I or you 1951 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: know us, we can have a different conversation. I think 1952 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 1: that's what podcast that makes it just more intimate. It 1953 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 1: makes it a more intimate and it's different. 1954 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 2: Is different. 1955 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: It's like talking to the homies. 1956 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that press run ship. Like with radio, I feel 1957 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 3: like the pr person sets that up and you got 1958 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 3: a full day of different radio studio or different radio studio, 1959 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 3: same questions. They may not even really know who they're 1960 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 3: talking to that day. Let me pull up Wikipedia and 1961 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 3: ask them bullshit questions with the long farm content you actually, 1962 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 3: of course you can ask the relationship, but that can't 1963 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 3: fill up our idea, like you got to actually have 1964 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 3: some human moments for people. 1965 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 4: That's a good idea to catch people outside on press 1966 01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 4: runs because you're right, three spots, three interviews. 1967 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 1: You don't talk that seven people did four phone interviews, 1968 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: Like you don't want to sit down on the couch, 1969 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 1: you want to go to sleep. 1970 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 4: At that you feel like and you feel like you're 1971 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 4: you're you're you're selling something. Yeah, like I'm here promote that. Yeah, 1972 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 4: we just hear kicking and I'm not kicking nothing. 1973 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we're just talking. 1974 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 3: And I feel like the average fan that, like you know, 1975 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 3: obsesses over their favorite artists, only gets them in the 1976 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 3: press run. So they only get the all right, who 1977 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 3: produced this, who's featured on the album? Type of They 1978 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 3: don't know their favorite artist when it's not album time. 1979 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 3: So when it's in between press runs, that's when. 1980 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 4: You actually get you there to talk about that your 1981 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 4: favorite artist is only the album. 1982 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think it's a better form to 1983 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 3: do ship. But you know, speaking of which, where's the album? 1984 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm cooking? Man, I've been in a lad with hit Boy. 1985 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 4: Man, I got I know, they seen me with some 1986 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,559 Speaker 4: zatoven beats, been in a studio with atl Jacob Pirates, 1987 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 4: at studio with Mike Will made It. I'm about to 1988 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 4: jump in there with Darren J're about to jump in 1989 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 4: there with Al But I got a lot of hit Boy. 1990 01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm about to jump back in there with hit Boy. 1991 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 4: Might let him Boy do the whole album again. 1992 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 2: Not sure, still in the early stages, but I got 1993 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,520 Speaker 2: some records. 1994 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, who haven't you worked with that you want 1995 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 3: to producer? Who haven't you worked with that. 1996 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: You want to Yay. 1997 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 2: I got to get in there with Yay and Dre. 1998 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 4: I gotta get in that room. Conway was in Yeah, 1999 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I gotta tell him, like, bro, 2000 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 4: don't you never not bring me with you? 2001 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2002 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 4: Ever, Yeah, I got I gotta get I gotta get 2003 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 4: the niggas numbers out his phone. 2004 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 2: Man, that's where I want to go. 2005 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,240 Speaker 1: So what's the plans with uh? First, we're good to 2006 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 1: see el Camino is good to hear him. See, I 2007 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,400 Speaker 1: always liked him. What's the plan with Rick? Had? El Camino? 2008 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: He love Rick the whole. 2009 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 4: It just continued to push the envelope more. I'm trying 2010 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 4: to get Rick Hided into producing more of the artists albums. 2011 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 1: He ain't about to drop an album Fuego Bass. 2012 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,040 Speaker 4: We finished with his album Going Crazy, watch like him 2013 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 4: mark my words like out of here. 2014 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 2015 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 4: Trying to get Rick Hi to produce more. You know 2016 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, trying to he A lot of people 2017 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 4: have been taking to hem. They a lot of people 2018 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 4: feel like he stood out on the tape. So his 2019 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 4: album about to drop next. 2020 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 1: He's ready to go. 2021 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 4: We were just in the studio with sp me sp 2022 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 4: and heen did some shit for his album. 2023 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Uh what else, love Boat? 2024 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 4: We just we're still working on like finalizing his situation 2025 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 4: at Veric Street. 2026 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: But he ready to go. 2027 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 4: Mackie Christina Mackie, Man, she's crazy talented. We got young 2028 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 4: world trying to get the artists in a to doing 2029 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 4: like other things instead of just you know, being in 2030 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 4: the studio doing the music, work with each other, work 2031 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 4: with different artists. 2032 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? 2033 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 3: All right, y'all think Tony died at the end of. 2034 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: No I think so. I think he's always saying today, 2035 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 1: y'all think so. I don't think he did. 2036 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 2: Man. 2037 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 4: You know, they'd be trying to always leave room to 2038 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 4: do more shit. We end up passing away with James Go. 2039 01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 4: We end up passing away. But I think they were 2040 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,120 Speaker 4: trying to leave home. I don't think so. 2041 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 3: Man, it would have been fucked up. They smoked Tony 2042 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 3: in front of his wife and kids and onion rings. 2043 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 3: You gotta show us that's that's a that's a fucked 2044 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 3: up to die. 2045 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Big dog. 2046 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,640 Speaker 4: You got to show us Tony getting smoked like you 2047 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 4: can't know, I mean, if it ain't happen. 2048 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:16,760 Speaker 1: It ain't happen. 2049 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 3: I mean I've seen all the internet conspiracy theories with 2050 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,639 Speaker 3: like how they shot it with the point of view 2051 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 3: and Tony looked this way and the killer looked this 2052 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 3: way and then it went black. 2053 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 4: He was saying like his daughter was looking up at 2054 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 4: the yeah. 2055 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 3: And then like members he was wearing a members only jacket. 2056 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 3: And that was the first episode. I was like, oh, yeah, 2057 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 3: this is some nine eleven conspiracy. 2058 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:37,799 Speaker 1: But that's how it happened. 2059 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 4: They said the one dude walked in the restaurant but 2060 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,360 Speaker 4: didn't walk back out, that was him walking. 2061 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,560 Speaker 3: That was the gun in the fucking bathroom or whatever. I 2062 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 3: don't know that, that whole Soprano ship. I just feel 2063 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 3: like that that changed TV completely and. 2064 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 4: Did like a lot of these shows, even the black shows, 2065 01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 4: man like the It's like it brought us to TV. 2066 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's like the wire type 2067 01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 4: of ship. The wire, the wire and the Sopranos. I mean, 2068 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 4: it's like the father of like the TV we see 2069 01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 4: to day. 2070 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 1: If you ask me for sure, how do you feel 2071 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 1: about Snowfall? 2072 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 2: And I love Snowfall Man, Snowfall. 2073 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 1: Of the Wire. 2074 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 3: I don't even like that, you have to think. 2075 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,439 Speaker 4: I gotta go I gotta go wire because the og. 2076 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,639 Speaker 4: But I'm loving Snowfall, you know what I mean. Like, man, 2077 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:28,760 Speaker 4: I think I'm Franklin Saint. I mean it's like and 2078 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 4: I met him. I met him at Diddy House. Cool dude, 2079 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Cool dude, Cool dude. 2080 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 3: Did you see many Sings in York? The Sopranos? 2081 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Did I love that movie? Did you love it? I 2082 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,960 Speaker 1: love that a lot of people didn't like it. They 2083 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: didn't I liked it because they was expecting a different type, 2084 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:44,639 Speaker 1: right right right. 2085 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 3: I was one of those people. I went in there 2086 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,040 Speaker 3: with expectations. Maybe I should I think Sopranos, I think, uh, 2087 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,799 Speaker 3: the writers, directors, everything deserve expectations because they're so genius. 2088 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 3: I went in with expectations and I didn't dislike it, 2089 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 3: but I was a little wasn't enough. I don't really 2090 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 3: think anything happened at all, like in the movie what 2091 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:04,679 Speaker 3: happened to the movie? 2092 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: I think I think nothing. 2093 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 4: We got to know, we got to know, like we 2094 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,680 Speaker 4: got to know Uncle in his younger days. Yeah, we 2095 01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 4: got to see his treachery. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2096 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 4: We got to know a little bit about Tony's father. 2097 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 3: Listen, I'm saying I got an issue just being Eskimo 2098 01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:25,560 Speaker 3: Brothers with my friends, let alone my father. Yeah, I 2099 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 3: don't think it was sick that he was sucking his 2100 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,560 Speaker 3: step mom. 2101 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,559 Speaker 1: Of course it was. 2102 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he killed his pop so. 2103 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 1: He could be. I ain't gonna say that's why he 2104 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: killed him. I guess it was so he could be. No, 2105 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,639 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna give you that. I see 2106 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: why you I understand it. 2107 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 2: But it was other it was other ship, it was 2108 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 2: other things. 2109 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 3: It was definitely think I think that would have been 2110 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 3: a good intro to what a series could have been, 2111 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 3: Like that should have been the movie into what that should. 2112 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,360 Speaker 1: Have been a series. 2113 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like I'm definitely expecting that with another part. Yeah, 2114 01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 4: I hope it got to be two or three, Like 2115 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 4: we gotta see Tony. We got to see Tony do 2116 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 4: some criminal ship. 2117 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2118 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 4: I loved that baby Chris was crying saying every round 2119 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,759 Speaker 4: Tony Like, I mean, it was one of my favorite parts. 2120 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2121 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 2: Like that tied into the series. 2122 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 3: And I liked how they had I forgot the gentleman's 2123 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 3: name that that plays Chris from the Sopranos Ship. He 2124 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 3: was in U Dead President, he was in mass Ship. 2125 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 3: I like that he that he intro the whole ship 2126 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 3: of like, yo, it is the guy that killed me. 2127 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was dope. 2128 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: I thought that was And I liked seeing I like 2129 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 2: seeing like. 2130 01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 4: Them making the characters younger, you know what I'm saying, 2131 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 4: and and and and the younger characters like trying to 2132 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 4: get like from the series, trying to uh mock everything 2133 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 4: those guys was doing, and trying to get the looks 2134 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 4: down what I'm saying, like Uncle Junior, I think that. 2135 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:49,919 Speaker 2: I think that was dope. 2136 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: I thought for a long time. Yeah, and emotional for 2137 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 1: a long time. A long time. He never switched his 2138 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: glasses up, you know what I mean. 2139 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but nah, I just always wanted to know what 2140 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,919 Speaker 3: you thought of many scenes in North. 2141 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 4: And I love it man Fansit me like the the 2142 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 4: Sopranos jacket, the Sopranos Jersey fans in me, all of 2143 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 4: that shit. 2144 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 3: How much of calling the label black Soprano family, do 2145 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 3: you want to kind of brand it with the actual 2146 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 3: Soprano show? 2147 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: A lot? 2148 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 4: A lot actually, because I'm a fan of the show. 2149 01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm inspired by, you know, the I'm inspired by the 2150 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 4: Lakoltra Nosha culture, culture, family and hierarchy, you know what 2151 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And you know that that don't even stand it. 2152 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,200 Speaker 4: Just in the criminal world, you know what I'm saying. 2153 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 4: We run in the business. They ran them like fortune 2154 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 4: five hundred companies. So I'm inspired off of things like that. Yeah, 2155 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I just you know. 2156 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 1: What I mean. 2157 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 2: I do want to I do want to indulge like 2158 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,799 Speaker 2: and I want to do like mob movies. 2159 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 1: I like that. 2160 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 2: That's why I love the movie because anytime they give 2161 01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 2: me anything like a mob movie, I love it. 2162 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Like what's the one? 2163 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 4: And ship the uh Russell it was Russell Buffalino not 2164 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 4: too long ago. 2165 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh Irishman, The Irishman. I love that movie to lash 2166 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 2: and I got that movie got a lot of. 2167 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,599 Speaker 3: Flak, So I love The Irishman. 2168 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 4: I don't think we moved get another Good Fellas. We're 2169 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 4: never gonna get another good Folks. We shouldn't another casino 2170 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,720 Speaker 4: like those let those you. 2171 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, because if you try to, it's like, 2172 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 1: all right, see now y'are playing games like don't do that? 2173 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 3: Leave that way, what's funny about The Irishman is like 2174 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 3: it was like the deluxe album of Goodfellasse. Good Fellas 2175 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 3: when you look back at all the Mob movies has 2176 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 3: the least amount of action. It's a very just dialogue 2177 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 3: the entire time. Of course, you got the scene when 2178 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 3: they beat up Billy Batsmall ship, but it's a fucking 2179 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,640 Speaker 3: quote unquote boring movie when it comes to action. In 2180 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 3: my movies, The Irishman was just three hours of dialogue, 2181 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 3: whereas Goodfellas was two hours. 2182 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:50,760 Speaker 1: You could take it. 2183 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why people hated that. But Irishman 2184 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,680 Speaker 3: is a class I like that. 2185 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: I love that. I love it too. I love it 2186 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and even. 2187 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 3: Those history with that whole shit, you know, Iris the 2188 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 3: time Russell Buffalo Buffalino. 2189 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's eerie, pa. 2190 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 4: It was right next to Buffalo, what I'm saying, even 2191 01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 4: though the name that has nothing to do with it, ironically, 2192 01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 4: but yeah, around that time, like Stefano Magadino, he was 2193 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 4: the Buffalo crime baars. You know what I'm saying, Joe 2194 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 4: Banano's cousin. 2195 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 2196 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like like the whole Commission case and 2197 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 3: all that shit, wasn't that by Buffalo where they. 2198 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Was upstate and it was upstate in the Appalachian Mountains. 2199 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2200 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 4: Well, uh, Stefano Magadino, the Buffalo crime boss, he was there. 2201 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 4: He's the longest running crime boss ever. He was the 2202 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 4: boss for fifty years. He was the only person who 2203 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 4: ever to do that like that. You know what I'm saying. 2204 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,640 Speaker 3: I feel like Buffalo as a city is still like 2205 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 3: that blue collar union type city that doesn't really happen 2206 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 3: within the Tri State anymore at all. Do you think 2207 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,040 Speaker 3: that that actually has anything to do with how y'all 2208 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,759 Speaker 3: built your fan base of just like regular ass people, 2209 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 3: not even an organized crime shit. I feel like Buffalo 2210 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 3: still one of the few blue collar cities. People are 2211 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 3: born and raised there, stay there. It's not a transplant city. 2212 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 3: I think that has anything to do with the fan 2213 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 3: base that y'all started with, because I the Griselda fan 2214 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 3: base feels like the homegrown, blue collar like we was 2215 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 3: raised here type. 2216 01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2217 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 3: I think so, which that's why I feel like a 2218 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 3: lot of New York City acts aren't really making it 2219 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,559 Speaker 3: because New York City has become such a transplant city. 2220 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,680 Speaker 3: It's not New York is the way it used to be, 2221 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 3: whereas Buffalo to me outside looking in still feels like 2222 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:31,759 Speaker 3: that type. 2223 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 1: Of thing, I believe. 2224 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 4: So I think us being from damn near the middle 2225 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,680 Speaker 4: of nowhere like wanted people to root for us, like, oh, man, 2226 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 4: where they're from. And also it made it less territorial. Yeah, 2227 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 4: like we were not from a borough like you know sometime, 2228 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, that kind of hindered us too. If we 2229 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 4: talk at East Coast music, if you ask me, I'm 2230 01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 4: I'm Benny the Butcher and Groselte. I feel like, you 2231 01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,040 Speaker 4: know what I mean, If Benny the Butcher was from Brooklyn, 2232 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But now it's like this 2233 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,560 Speaker 4: though we don't We don't deal with none of the 2234 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 4: politics of the boroughs. These dudes, don't fuck with these dudes. 2235 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 4: These don't know what I'm saying. We don't deal with 2236 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 4: none of that shit. We don't deal with none of 2237 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,560 Speaker 4: the politics because we're from the middle of nowhere. What 2238 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, we don't got none to do with that shit. 2239 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,360 Speaker 4: People just enjoy our music a certain way. So I 2240 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 4: feel like man being from Buffalo definitely helped us. It's 2241 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:16,839 Speaker 4: nothing never came from out that motherfucker. 2242 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 3: I think everything is shifted. Whereas if you weren't from 2243 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,479 Speaker 3: New York, Atlanta, la Oors used to be like, I'm 2244 01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 3: not in the main markets, I can't make it. I 2245 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 3: think if you're not from the main markets. Now, like 2246 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,839 Speaker 3: Jack Harlow, I think he's become that whole state's champion, 2247 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,080 Speaker 3: like everyone wants to get behind him because he's not 2248 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 3: exactly from a maze, like, oh we got one finally, 2249 01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 3: Whereas New York is like, we have ten thousand raffers 2250 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, Why am I get behind you because you're 2251 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 3: from Brooklyn. It doesn't work that way. 2252 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:45,639 Speaker 1: Now, that's a fact. 2253 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 4: And I think that's that's a tactic that people use, 2254 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 4: and they want to go get like the middle the 2255 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 4: middle of nowhere kids, the middle of. 2256 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 2: Nowhere people, because it's like, talk about your area. We 2257 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 2: heard about all of these cities before, and tell us 2258 01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,680 Speaker 2: about this place we never heard. We've never even been 2259 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,679 Speaker 2: to this motherfucker. We didn't even know this shit exists. 2260 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 2: Wrap about it for us. I think people into that 2261 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 2: what happened to the record you had with with nas 2262 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 2: on the hit Boy and never I think hit was 2263 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,280 Speaker 2: telling me that he kind of didn't fit the burden 2264 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 2: and proof and it was for burning to proof and 2265 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 2: it didn't fit. 2266 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,840 Speaker 4: But we was listening to the other day and I'm like, 2267 01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 4: it fit this it fit this one. Yeah, I mean 2268 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 4: I was listening. I think it fit and it's crazy 2269 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 4: you said that. But I'm thinking, like, I'm going to 2270 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,760 Speaker 4: revisit that. I want to see if I could use 2271 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 4: that for this album. 2272 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, oh shit, I haven't heard that one. Yeah, 2273 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 3: it was a treat one. I need to hear the novel. 2274 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 2: It's a good one, man, it's a good one. 2275 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 1: Man. I'm trying to tell you all right, well listen, man, 2276 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, sit here and talk 2277 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 1: so much longer. But I am glad that, you know, 2278 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 1: we was able to see you and kick it with you. Man, 2279 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in a while, but I'm proud 2280 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,960 Speaker 1: of you. I'm happy for you, always rooting for you, 2281 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 1: and you know I'm rocking with you forever as family. Man. 2282 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 4: So man, I appreciate you, fellas. Whenever I run into y'all, 2283 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,559 Speaker 4: it's a good thing because nine times out of ten, 2284 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 4: we always working or we're on our way somewhere. 2285 01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 2: We had an event. So It's always good to see that. 2286 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Let me. That reminds me though, that I'm working. When 2287 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm working, it's working, man working. But I'm proud of you. 2288 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 1: It's good to see you, man. Love appreciate you'all boys. 2289 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 1: All right, it's been another episode of New Rory and 2290 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,439 Speaker 1: Mall with my guy, my brother Benny the Butcher. Shout 2291 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: out the rock star energy, yes, and shout out to 2292 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,839 Speaker 1: Rory in the sunlight hitting his face. 2293 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:24,520 Speaker 3: Sunscreen at this point, shout the culture lab. 2294 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,560 Speaker 2: Everybody, sir, it's nice in here. I'm gonna throw me 2295 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 2: some ship in here. 2296 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,519 Speaker 1: Man. Oh no, that's yeah, now that I know we've 2297 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,320 Speaker 1: got a clubhouse down here. Yeah, for sure, I'll definitely 2298 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 1: be back down here doing some shit I shouldn't be 2299 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,800 Speaker 1: doing in ours office, all right,