1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Oh a good time, Steve Tasper, good done. Text text down, 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: text down, all over time. Okay, here we go. It 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: is Tuesday. It is the second of last week of 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: the regular season, and there's more to come after that, 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: you know that. Good afternoon, and welcome to Orchard Park. 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: If you're watching on the MSG feed, you got to 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: look at the snow covered field, new airfield. A little 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: dusting of an inch or so overnight, nothing to get 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: too alarmed about here in Orchard Park. We're used to. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: This looks good. Actually, the field looks pretty good. Does 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: it looks like nice? And this that snooze new snowfall 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: making it look clean and nice and clean and nice. Yeah, 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. I'm John Murphy. This is Bill's 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Wall of Famers team Tasker. We're here until three o'clock 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: today to talk about the Bills in the NFL. Look, 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: it's a short week. The game is Saturday, not Sunday, um, 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: and the Bills are practicing as we speak. They're out 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: there right now on the other side of the wall 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: over there inside the at Pro Sports Training Center. It 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a short week, though, Steve. Not like 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: the thanks getting look the couple of weeks ago the 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys game that was accelerated. That was like boom, here 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: we go, boom boom, boom boom. Now it's Saturday instead 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: of Sunday, so the day when the Bills would normally 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: travel they play. They will travel Friday, and we'll be 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: here Friday. You and Maddy got the show Friday, right, 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: But it doesn't at this point anyway, feel like the 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Bills are in a rush. Do you feel that way? 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't feel that. I don't 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: feel our department. I'm kind of no. I feel yeah, 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: nobody's rushing me. You know. Go ahead and Friday, right, 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: try and get me out of my slow glide. That 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: from my pro glide that and I don't feel that, 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: and then the other thing, and see if you agree 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: with this, and then you know, we're just we gotta. 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: We got stuff to talk about today, much more important 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: stuff than this. It feels. Look and the Bills have 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: clinched the playoff spot, and I would think that there 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: might be and I'm not saying sit back and relax 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: about the you know, if as far as the team 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: with the coaches, but maybe just a little bit of 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: a feeling like anything we get here from here on 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: out is gravy. You know what I mean. They got 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: ten wins, they're in the playoffs. The division title can 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: still be clenched. It is extremely remote possibility. But I 46 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: wonder if, if at all, there's a sense that I'm 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: sure Sean mctimber would not verbalize this, but a sense 48 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: that anything we get these last two weeks is gravy. 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: We don't need much more. We can still get a 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: little more, especially the division title. But you know what 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, that is that an invalid I get you. 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a reflection of the fans. They realize 53 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: you reach into this, you get reached this point of 54 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: the season. There's two weeks left and you're in you know, 55 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: you're not even barely in, right, You're like in two 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: you're like two game lead in the fifth spot. Nobody's 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: catching you. That's that's nice. Yeah, what makes it different 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: is there's still much there's still something to go for it, 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: and that's the AFC East Division title, right, And I 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: think that is significant. And we're going to talk about 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: that a little bit today, about the reasons why Bill's 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: fans will be rooting for a win in Foxboro this Saturday. 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: But the division title, to me, is is it a 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: remote possibility? You bet it sure is. Stuff's got to happen, 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: including the Bills winning and the Dolphins doing them a 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: favor in a week seventeen when they knock off New England. 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: But I think it's worth shooting for. I really do. 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: I think it's worth looking at and shooting for. On 69 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: the topic of a division the Bills haven't won a 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: division title since nineteen ninety five, twenty four years ago. 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: They won eleven games that year. This is the latest 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in the season. The division title has been up for 73 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: grabs since two thousand and eight, and the Bills weren't 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: involved in that one. The Patriots have won ten straight 75 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: division titles. It's time for them to kind of seed 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: leadership in this division, I think, And to me, that's 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: worth shooting for. It Is that a you know, a 78 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: motivating factor for the Bills. Well, this team doesn't lack 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: for motivation for the most part. But I don't know 80 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: what do you make of that? Is a division title, 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: as remote as it might be, is that something that 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: they'll talk about during this practice week, this Buffalo Bills team. No, 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: I think It's all about this game of what it means. 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: You just want to win. You beat these guys, and 85 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I think it sends a little bit of a message 86 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: across the conference that you know, the Bills are getting better. 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: This is a team they played very tough in the 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: first month of the season, and the Bills have continued 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: to grow. And unless you're willing to grow and play 90 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: better than you did the first time you beat them, 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat you, either for the first time or 92 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: again in the playoffs. If they meet the Pittsburgh Stealers again, 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: they could beat them. You know, they know the Bills 94 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: could beat them. The Baltimore Ravens know that they're going 95 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: to be in a tussle. You know, it'll send a 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: message across the tournament that says the Bills are playing 97 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: even better. Now have they not already sent that message 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: with the win at Pittsburgh, the win at Dallas? Have 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: they not already sent that message? Yes? I think too 100 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: certain they've done what they could. But let's face it, Hey, 101 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: beating the Patriots says something late in the season. People 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: don't do that, you know, they just don't. And if 103 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: you beat those guys, the press, particularly in their building, 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: where they're where they're sixty three and one over the 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: past whatever, fifty you know whatever. You know they're over 106 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: the past. You know, sixty one games, they won sixty 107 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: of them. Uh. Yeah, that sends a message. It means 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that you're you're clicking on all cylinders headed into the playoffs. 109 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: And I think if you do that, think about this too, Murph. 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I think it changes things a little bit. Even if 111 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: you beat the Patriots, you're gonna go into that game 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: in week seventeen, Uh, with a different mindset. Uh. You 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything to upset the Apple Carts, 114 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: certainly want to beat the Jets, particularly given the fact 115 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: that you may have a chance of winning the division. 116 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Then um, but I think it changes your mindset about 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: your own team. I mean that that that's a shot 118 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: across the bow about every playoff team that's in the 119 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: in the tournament this year, even in the other conference. 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: You beat the Patriots late in their building in the season, 121 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: CITI doesn't happen weeks ago there in Foxboro, right, And 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: how many people and during this of course of this 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: last offseason, alder during this regular season, have put the 124 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Bills in the same conversation with the Kansas City Chief. 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: If they beat the Patriots this one, they may be 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: ahead of them in the conversation. In that conversation, you 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: and I might because we see them. Yeah, but you 128 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: know that you think about the across the country, the 129 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Bills going in there and doing it, and also say 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: something too, it'll be it won't be us just hoping 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: that the Patriots are done and the Tom Brady's is 132 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: last year and all that. Other people will be saying, wow, 133 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: they're done. Yeah, Well then that gets us right to 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: the Twitter pole. That's the heart of our Twitter poll today. 135 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: And you know, as I said, an abbreviated week, and 136 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: we're going to start talking about the Bills and the 137 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Patriots today. And the Bills have things to fight for, 138 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: things to still try to clinch the division title among them. 139 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: But what's in your mind? It's our Twitter pole. What's 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: the biggest reason for the Bills to look for a 141 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: win in Foxborough over the Patriots. What's the number one 142 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: thing they can accomplish that we'd love to hear from you. 143 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: I phone line's open eighth three five fifty toll free 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: five fifty. What doesn't win in Foxborough Saturday do for 146 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills our options on the Twitter pole. You 147 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: don't have to stick with ease if you call in. 148 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: What's the biggest reason for a Bills win over the Patriots? 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Is it the fact that it keeps the AFC East 150 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: divisional idol chance is alive and a win there would 151 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: and then the Bills have to beat the Jets in 152 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: week seventeen and the Patriots have to lose to Miami unlikely. Yeah. 153 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: The second part of that is, but we'll see, is 154 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that the number one reason to root for it is that, 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: as Steve is just indicating, and I think this is valid, 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: is that a sign of a changing of the guard 157 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in the AFC East? Right, Patriots have won ten straight 158 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: division titles. If the Bills go in there in late 159 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: December and knock him off and then follow it up 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and win the division title of the next week, is 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: that send a sign to the rest of the league. Hey, 162 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: there's a new leader, there's a new sheriff in town, 163 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: there's a new leader in the AFC East or is 164 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: it c? And this is I think significant? Two last 165 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: chance to beat Tom Brady, right, thirty one and three. 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: He's thirty one and three against the Bills in his career, 167 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: which is amazing, more wins against Buffalo than anyone. I'm 168 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: going to look up some numbers here he's been He's 169 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: been great against the Bills. He has feasted against on 170 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills during his career. He is forty two 171 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: years old. Almost every other week, there's another story coming 172 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: out of New England, like Brady put his house on 173 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: the market, Brady severed his relationship with this charity or 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: that charity. Brady's done this almost every other week. Somebody's 175 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: speculating on his future. I don't know. Is he going 176 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: to be back in New England. Some people say no, 177 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe he'll play somewhere else. But he's thirty one in three. 178 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say this could be Buffalo's last crack at 179 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Right, thirty one, thirty one wins, three losses. 180 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: He's thrown sixty nine touchdown passes in those thirty four 181 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: games and only thrown twenty five interceptions. Forty two years old. 182 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: We all saw the video a couple of weeks ago 183 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: or a week ago, expressing frustration at some of his teammates. 184 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the kind of targets that he needs 185 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: or he's used to. But is this the last chance 186 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: of Bills get to beat Tom Brady? That might motivate 187 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: the Bills players and certainly motivate some fans. What do 188 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: you think? Our Twitter poll is up and we've got 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: four to twenty votes in already and half of you 190 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: fifty two percent say the biggest reason for rooting for 191 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: the Bills and win in Foxborough is it would be 192 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: a signal of a changing of the guard in the division, 193 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the turning point, the future has arrived. It's the Buffalo Bills. 194 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: Thirty three percent of you say say it keeps the 195 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: AFC East. Chance is alive for the Bills. Okay, twelve 196 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: percent say it's the last chance to beat Tom Brady. 197 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Three percent have something else in mine. What do you think? 198 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: Phone line's open eight three fifty to three one eight 199 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You can respond via Twitter. 200 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: We'll read them from the tweet sheet. What's the biggest 201 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: reason you think for a Bills win in Foxboro this weekend? 202 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Or just vote on our Twitter poll at one Bill's Live. 203 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: What do you think, mister Tasker, which would you circle there, 204 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't changing of the guard maybe a last chance. 205 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: I think changing of the guard and the last chance 206 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: to beat Brady or kind of hand in hand, you 207 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because if if Brady's gone, the 208 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: things change in the division. I've told you this though 209 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: two and years past and shows in the past that 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't think Tom is the real key to beating 211 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think Bill Belichick, in his programmer is 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: the real key. I think the way they do things 213 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: is the reason they've won ten straight division titles. Tom's 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: a good player, but he's benefited from that program. So, 215 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: uh he's a good player. Yeah, not the greatest of 216 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: all time. He's had the most success. I mean, but 217 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I've ever played right and uh so I think I 218 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: think that all of that in and of itself, um 219 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: could signal yeah, I mean maybe the things will change. Um. 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna fall off a cliff if 221 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's not their quarterback. No, No, I do how 222 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: how big a cliff? Uh? Big? Like all right? Say there, 223 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: all right, let's go now, yeah, let's say there they go. 224 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: Let's say they go this year. Let's say that the 225 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: New England Patriots finish up this season at what's it 226 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: gonna be? All right, let's say they go twelve and 227 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: to four, all right, what would they What are they 228 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: going to finish next year with a better row, you know, 229 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: with the with the roster change and the whatever happens, 230 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: not knowing who they pick up? Right? Who? Eight wins 231 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: without Brady? You think they're gonna go eight and eight 232 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: next year, but not knowing who they pick up, I mean, 233 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: who they're going to get at quarterback. I don't know 234 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the answer to that. Where again, assuming he doesn't come back, 235 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: which is not a solid assumpson yet, but yeah, yeah, 236 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: eight nine wins, Yeah, I think it'll be. I don't 237 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: think it'll be that much. Not because I listen, he's 238 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: forty two now. He's not the quarterback he has been. 239 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: He's he's barely functional, not that barely function. I'm exaggerating 240 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: to make a point, but you know he's not the 241 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was twelve years ago. So I'm I would 242 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: say ninth in passing yards per game in the NFL. 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: The Patriots are They still get it? Don Brady still 244 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: gets a ton. Yeah, with a limited cast of support, 245 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of targets to work with, kind 246 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: of an evolving uh number of targets. Brady completing sixty 247 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: percent of his passes his career completion sixty four sixty four. 248 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I looked that up today. Twenty one touchdowns, seven interceptions. 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Steve is very good, pretty good. He's 250 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: forty two. I get it, and he might not be back. 251 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: I get it, and he's not where he was three 252 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: years ago. I just don't still pretty good now. They 253 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: may not win twelve games, no question, but I'll tell 254 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: you what. I'll bet you they win double I would 255 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: say double digit wins even without him. I don't know, 256 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: totally pretend to. I think about that defense they've got 257 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: over there, and you know how much have I a 258 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: chance that gives them every game? So I and and 259 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the way they'll adapt and they'll find out who they are. Yeah, 260 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: they'll be fine. Number one defense they are in the NFL. 261 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: The Bills are number three, number one and scoring defense. 262 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Patriots give up thirteen and a half points per game 263 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: on average. Yeah, and the Bills give up So it's 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: like three points a game different yea or two points 265 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: actually two points more a game that the Bills give 266 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: up a field goal or less. That's a difference this close. 267 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a game like the Pittsburgh game was 268 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: this last week and were we and like the first 269 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo New England game. That's right, that's what we're gonna 270 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: have to We're gonna have to get our you know, 271 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: let's cut, let's gird our lor I'm gonna go, you know, 272 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: let's strap up it on. I told you yesterday. I 273 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: have embraced this. And mostly because if you're instruction a 274 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Look, this is game fifteen, Week sixteen. 275 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: This is who the Bills are. Yeah, I don't expect 276 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: an offensive flurry against the Patriots this week or even 277 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: against it. And it's and it's a little frustrating to 278 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: be you know for that right, right, And it's but 279 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: think about it. You don't ever sense like like, for instance, 280 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: like last year with the La Rams, or last year 281 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: with the Kansa cy Cheese, or this year with the 282 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Kansa c Cheese. You never get these teams that are 283 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: like this, these offensively minded teams that lean on their 284 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: offense instead their defense. You never get the sense of 285 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: frustration with their fans base, right. I think when you 286 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: have a defense that you lean on and you watch 287 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: from the stands and you watch your team and then 288 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: your your offense. You know, that's that's a frustrating team 289 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: to watch. And that's kind of what we have here 290 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Right, you're kind of frustrating. We can oh, man, 291 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: you're missing this guy, you're missing that guy, or you 292 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: dropped this pass, you dropped that pass. Yeah, a false 293 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: start and he drives over you know, all that kind 294 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: of stuff. You don't think about that on the other side, 295 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: if you've got an offense that's potent and your defense, like, 296 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: let's just tackle the guy. You know, you don't see 297 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: that level of frustration. Well, the margin of error is small, 298 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: right when you're only going to score sixteen seventeen points 299 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: a game. Points are more game than they are and 300 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: another yeah, no question, the average twenty one points a game. 301 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: The margin of error is small for the Bills, that's right, 302 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: And that's frustrating parting. You see, I'm trying to lessen 303 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: the frustration by embracing it. Okay, this is who they are. 304 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna win close games, one score games, and they're 305 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: not gonna put up a lot of points. And that 306 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that that recipe has produced ten wins this year. That's 307 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: who they The Pittsburgh win was particularly delicious because the 308 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: defense not only stopped them, but they got turnovers and 309 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: they played and turnovers, sacks and turnovers and and on 310 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the road and you know, in that building, it was 311 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: it was a really really comforting win when you think 312 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: about the kind of team we have and to have 313 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: the Bills battle back, even though they did battleback, make 314 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: a play offensive and that's the thing. You make a 315 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: play offensively, It's like, okay, there was were the play 316 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: was there to be made. We made it. There we go. 317 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a one hand in the back of 318 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the end zone tipped ball, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 319 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: play was there, we made it. Boom go. Yeah. So 320 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of team to cheer for, and 321 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: we've we've been we've been on that train all year. 322 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: Got a good show today. Coming up on the show, 323 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: we have Pete Prisco joining us CBS Sports senior NFL 324 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: columnists will get his thoughts on the Bills and the Patriots, 325 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the Bills in particular, and of course, Kyle Brand joined 326 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: us at one o'clock, co hosts of Good Morning Football 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Kyle always a highlight of the week 328 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: for us when he comes in. That's what's coming up 329 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: on the show today, Bills practicing right now. I love 330 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: to hear from you. What's the biggest reason you should 331 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: root for a Bill's win in Foxboro this weekend? Eight 332 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight 333 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Let's start with the calls 334 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: and start with is it Marvin or Mayvin in California? Hello? Yeah, 335 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan and Californa Nathan in California and Nathan, Hey, 336 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I've been a Bill stand my entire life. Coincidentally enough, 337 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: I met my wife out here in southern California and 338 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: she's from Buffalo. Now it worked out great. I just 339 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: want to say it's so awesome that they clinched the 340 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: playoff spot with a couple of weeks ago. I think 341 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: they should just let her rip. They don't have anything 342 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: to be afraid of. They need to play as aggressive 343 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: as possible to everything you can on offense just to 344 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: get better over the next couple games. I think we 345 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: can do it. We're gonna make a big playoff push. 346 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Steve I love your idea of the eighteen game season 347 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: before the holiday at the start and al riveron is 348 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the worst thing that ever happened to officiating. Feel mad 349 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: about the Kelvin Benjamin no no touchdown last year, and 350 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna make them pay on Saturday, all right, Nat, 351 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: call Nathan for thanks for agreeing with me. My eighteen 352 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: game schedule is a thing of brilliance, though. I'm telling you, 353 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: because you know, you start couple of weeks early, everybody 354 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: takes a break for Labor Day holiday and then come 355 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: back in and jump back into it. It gives you 356 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: a little break there at the beginning of the season. 357 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, and you get eighteen games. Here's the contract. 358 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to get deep into it here, but 359 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: of course, the controversial part of your plan is a 360 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: player is only playing sixteen and those eas Now I'll 361 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: take that off the table, oh you will. Oh yeah, okay, 362 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: that's a big get. The only reason I put that 363 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: in there, Murph, was so it would take away one 364 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: of the obstacles for the Players Association to agree to it, 365 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because the union didn't want 366 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: guys to play eighteen games because you know, it's hard 367 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: on them, so you know that was the thing. But 368 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: if you can get the players to say yes to 369 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: an eighteen game schedule by paying them or giving them 370 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: more give back, maybe more time off, mandatory time off 371 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: in the offseason or whatever, throw the two games on 372 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: there and let everybody play. Plus give him a couple 373 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: of spots on the roster, you know, okay, and they're 374 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: probably moving towards a seventeen game schedule. Step in the 375 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: right direction. Yeah, that's a baby step. Come on, okay, 376 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, get rid of two pre season games, give 377 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: him eighteen games started two or three weeks earlier. Take 378 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody gets a league wide by on Labor Day, and 379 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: you could make that You could do anything you want 380 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: with that weekend. You can make an NFL weekend of 381 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: volunteerism or something, you know what I mean. Jump on 382 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: board with that whatever, and then jump back into the 383 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: regular season. You give teams a chance, give guys in 384 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: the preseason a chance to get healthy again the first 385 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of the season. Yeah, listen, I got 386 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: good ideas, all right, I hear you. Hey, um, I 387 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: think one of the things that Nathan just said kind 388 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: of resonated with me. And it's kind of I mentioned 389 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: this at the top of the show a minute ago, 390 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: and that's the bill's approach to these final two weeks. 391 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Steven And there is a lot to be one here, 392 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: the AFC East Division is there to be one. But again, 393 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: and Nathan said it the Sean mcder what did he say, 394 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember. What did he say after the Cleveland 395 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: loss before they went to Miami and play fearlessly? Yeah, 396 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: they should be playing. They should upgrade that a little 397 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: bit more the next two weeks. Play a little more 398 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: felixly now because this is all gravy. That's what I'm thinking. 399 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: You're right. There was a great call by Nathan because 400 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: he brought it up. I hadn't thought about it. He 401 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: goes use these two weeks to gear up for the 402 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: run into the playoffs. You know, let's go all right, 403 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: let's play hard plays. Let her rip yet, let it rip? Yeah, 404 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know if if you're in 405 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: and the only chance you've got is, you know, to 406 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots or what, let it rip. Get put 407 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: some things on film that other teams got to deal with. 408 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: Try some things on special teams and other teams got 409 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: to deal with turn it loose, ask a little bit 410 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: more Josh than you would normally ask some things of 411 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: some other players that you wouldn't normally, Let him do 412 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: some things and try and get better in the next 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: two weeks, so that when the playoffs begin and you 414 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: dial up back and say, Okay, here's what who's who 415 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: we are, and here's what we're gonna do. You're you 416 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like, oh, well, this is easy, right, 417 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: let's do that. Yeah, that's a great idea. That's a 418 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: great call by Nathan. And the letter rip thing is 419 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: is a great idea, a great attitude to have, you know, 420 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: when you got something at mistake in these games, Yeah, 421 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: let it rip. Let it go. If there's nothing to 422 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: stake for the Jets game, and we'll wait until next 423 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: week to talk about that different story. We don't have 424 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: to talk about that now. But you can let it rip. 425 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: But just say, hey, you know, Matt, you're gonna let 426 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: it rip now instead of Josh, Right, let her rip. 427 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's go. And plus you're you can give day Ball 428 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: some freedom to experiment, you know, get with the test tubes, 429 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: pour a little bit of this this package into this package, 430 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: you see what you think is maybe run some things 431 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: with some different personnel. All of that stuff is in 432 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: the mex and just see what you got. You know, 433 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: see if you see who's playing, who emerges in the 434 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, maybe they'll help you in the 435 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: in them in the tournament. You know, I that's a 436 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: great I think it's a great attitude. Fearlessly, you know, 437 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: just let a rip, let's go and these last two weeks, 438 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: win or lose, at least you'll know something or find 439 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: something out about your players and it'll it'll give them 440 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: a little refresher and'll have some fun in these last 441 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and head into plays with a great attitude. 442 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: Say call here from Art in Rochester. Hello Art, go 443 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: ahead and you're on the heir. Yes, how you guys 444 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: doing now? I'm just gonna ask if you guys think 445 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: the Bills mismanager the second half time out? Sometime they 446 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: missmanach the second half timeouts. Sometimes timeouts way way before 447 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: the gal in the most four minutes or so left. Yeah, 448 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: once in a while. I've one thing I've noticed about 449 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: McDermott and this staff. They they do use timeouts at 450 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: places that are unconventional, mostly on on a crucial down 451 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: where you'll see them all the time. You'll you know this, 452 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: They'll call a time out before the snap, they'll get 453 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: let the other team line out, they'll line up, and 454 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: then right before the snap, they'll call a time out 455 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: and then force that other team to either a change 456 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: their play call because you gotta look at what they're 457 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: gonna do, or be uh, you got you gotta leg 458 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: up on them and you're gonna change into something that's 459 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: a little better or something that you know at least 460 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: you can get a because here's the thing. They'll study 461 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: film and they'll know what this team likes to do 462 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: in short yard or goal line or third and nine 463 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. They'll get an idea 464 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: of what they like to do. They'll get in they'll 465 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: get in line, and when they line up, they see 466 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. They'll know what they've done out 467 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: of that formation in the past, and they call a 468 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: time out and they get ready for that and they 469 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: force the team to go to something they don't like 470 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: as well or their second choice. Ye uh, that's a 471 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: to me. It's it's an innovative and different kind of way. 472 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: To use your timeout. But I don't think it's any question. 473 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: I think they've had good success doing it. I think 474 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: it's a little bit it's like a basketball strategy, right 475 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: you that's right, get lined up and then they're gonna go. 476 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: They're gout and the other thing. I would And I 477 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: don't think Sean's ever been asked this, but I believe 478 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: this to be true. He's got this analytics department, the 479 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: sports science department. I am certain that they are the 480 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: ones who who told them, hey, uh, instead of carrying 481 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: the time out into the locker room at the end 482 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: of the half or at the end of the game, 483 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: use it to do this a little bit now you 484 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: need them. Although I can't think of it, I was 485 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: thinking whilst he was talking to their art I can't 486 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: think of an instance this season where they have been 487 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: short timeouts down the stretch and they really needed them. 488 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: So I know they know the value of them. They're 489 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: trying to come back, they know the value of having timeouts. 490 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: But I also think when they got three and they 491 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: got a chance to get a look at their opponents 492 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: and how they're lining it up, they will use it. 493 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of smart. Yeah, they do, and 494 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a different way of doing things than teams. 495 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: We've seen the old school away to do it. You 496 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: take a time out when you got whatever, whatever reason, 497 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: when the clock, when you got it on offense. I 498 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: think defensive coaches are more tuned to the fact that 499 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: once in a while. They used to be never take 500 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: a defensive time out. You always want to save it 501 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: for the offense in case they get a chance to 502 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: move the football and they'll go down to score a 503 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: point and that last touch, that last time out, we'll 504 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: give him a chance to set up for a field 505 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: goal or you know whatever, save them give them a 506 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: play to go for the touchdown. Right. So it used 507 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: to be an old no no not to do that. 508 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of defensive coaches, our 509 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: head coaches, and one of them to saying, listen, I 510 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: could really use that time out right here, because if 511 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: we could call a time out, I got a handle 512 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: on what they're doing. We saw an example of it 513 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: on the two point play against the Ravens when they 514 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: went for two and people crushed them and liked them. 515 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: It was a real polarizing thing, but they got an 516 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: idea of what they were going to see and I 517 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: don't know that that involved a time out at the time, 518 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: but that's the kind of thing we're talking about. When 519 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: they get a handle on what they expect, it gives 520 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: them a chance to be successful. I say one more 521 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: call here Rick in Rochester. Go ahead, Rick, Welcome to 522 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: the show. You're on the here. Yeah. I just wanted 523 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: to make the point that if they win in Foxboro 524 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: this following week, it really demonstrates that they have the 525 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: ability to, you know, being on a prime time stage, 526 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: the pressure kind of jacks up a little bit because 527 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: they're on a bigger stage, and haven't they already demonstrated that. Yeah. 528 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: I think it just demonstrates that when you're in the playoffs, 529 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's going to help them stay tom under 530 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: that pressure because they've been pretty calm. Are you losing 531 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: your out? And I just think it's through their credit 532 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: that the team, and especially John Josh Ellen says, stays 533 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: calm under those situations being on a little a little 534 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: bit bigger stage. Yeah. Yeah, I mean we've we've talked 535 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: about that on the show a lot, where we kind 536 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: of labeled Josh as this kind of primetime guy, a 537 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: clutch guy when the lights are on, he plays his best. 538 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Are you going with that? I don't know. We don't 539 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: know either. You know, maybe this, maybe this would help 540 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: if he did this in New England, you know. And um, 541 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: it's not like he doesn't play good at Sunday at 542 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: one o'clock. But we've seen him when we all have 543 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: doubts about how he's gonna play under the bright lights. 544 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: On Thanksgiving Day in Dallas, man he shut us all up. 545 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: And then in this last game in Pittsburgh, Um, you 546 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: know the throw he makes to Tyler Craft. While it's 547 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: pretty good throw, um, you know, he leads him to 548 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: a victory. So uh yeah, you kind of think that 549 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: your quarterback doesn't shy away from those moments. But every 550 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: time like this, every time you see him do it, 551 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: it reinforces that belief. And I don't know that we're 552 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: all believers and we're all confident that, yeah, that's our guy. 553 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna go and these bright lights are gonna make 554 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: him play better. I don't know if we're there. I'm 555 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: not there, But the more chances he gets, yeah, and 556 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: it including Saturday. Look, it's NFL network, it's not a 557 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: big national you know. Over the air broadcast network if 558 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: those even exist anymore. But the more chances he gets 559 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: at it playing in a spotlight game like Saturday, the 560 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: better you would think you'd get at it. We never 561 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: used to get chances to even find out, right where 562 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: this is new territory for everybody, for a whole generation 563 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: of Bills fans, to have our guys playing in December 564 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: clinched a playoff thing, Well, what do we do? How 565 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: do how do I feel about this? And I know 566 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: it's a small chance to be what do you do? Yeah? Right, 567 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: we got a whole generation of people and we haven't 568 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: been through this for and even old guys like that, 569 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: it's been two decades, two and a half decades before 570 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: even worry about this stuff, you know. And now we're 571 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: now we got a quarterback that you know. Now we're 572 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 1: getting a guy that in the last two he's had 573 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: three two out of the last three games or so 574 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: under the bright lights, and he's killing it. Even the 575 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore game was shown yacially, you know, so it SUPs 576 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: to be one, two, three, four straight games with big 577 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: national TV audiences. You we just have why asked the question? 578 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: We're never gonna find out the answer, right, because we 579 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: never get the bright lights. Yeah, it's pretty nice. Hey, 580 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: we got a break care. Pete Prisco is going to 581 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: join us CBS Sports Senior NFL columnists get his thoughts 582 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: on the Bills potential changing of the guard in the 583 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: AFC East. He's coming up next. Come on back for that. 584 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Colada Health Company from the 585 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. 586 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Bills Live. I'm John Murphy right next 587 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: to the Steve Tasker Company of from our Seneca studio 588 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: in Archard Park. The Bills getting set to play Saturday afternoon, 589 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: four thirty against the Patriots on the line, let us 590 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: talk about that. To talk about the Bills, We've got 591 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior NFL rider, the host of the Pick 592 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: six podcasts. He's covered the NFL for over three decades. 593 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Really happy to have Pete Prisco on the line. Hello Pete, 594 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve task up here in Buffalo. Thanks 595 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: coming on, Hey guys, how are you? We're good? Hey? 596 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: The Bills were surrounded by doubters before this season began. 597 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: Vegas had him at six wins and yet you saw 598 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: something you, in fact, were on record is predicting the 599 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: Bills as a playoff team. What did you see? Well, 600 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I think I saw a team on defense that would 601 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: rally around their coach and take on their personality, which 602 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: is exactly what they did. I mean that that defense 603 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: is very good and they play hard and they play feisty, 604 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: and that's who Sean McDermott is. And on the other 605 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: side of the all, I'm a big believer in Josh Allen. 606 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I know there's not a lot of people out there 607 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: who are I am, and I've been since he came out. 608 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I think he's getting better and better as the season 609 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: moves along. And you know, it's not always easy for 610 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: him because he doesn't not the greatest offensive line. At times, 611 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: even though they're better than they were a year ago. 612 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: His receivers drop a lot of balls and people point 613 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: to him and I'll go back to play last week. 614 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, gold Beasley's got to catch that ball in 615 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I'm sorry the balls picked, 616 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: but he's got to catch it. It was a little high, 617 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't a great throw, but it's on his hands. 618 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: He's got to catch that football. And then you have 619 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: you know Collinsworth going on there and dissecting how Alan 620 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: had bad footwork. Well maybe he did, but he still 621 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: makes the story. You got to catch it. So I 622 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: think he gets picked apart. But I'm a big believer 623 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: in him, and I'm a big believer in the Buffalo Bill. Yeah, 624 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: and you also you picked him to make the playoffs 625 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: this year, and you know, even to win the division. 626 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: That that's from a guy who's in your position. We 627 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: kind of believe that here in Buffalo because we liked 628 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: the team and we saw the work they put in 629 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Still, their offense 630 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: has still been hit and miss a little bit. It's 631 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: really the thing that is the most frustrating part of 632 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: the team, their inability to score points. But yet you 633 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: thought this team as a total would be good enough 634 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: to move towards the top of the league and getting 635 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, and you know the offense is hit 636 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and miss, and I think there's times and I go 637 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: back to you know there were games where was at 638 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: the Cleveland game where Dawson Knox dropped a back shoulder 639 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: faith and then he dropped a pass probably in the 640 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: end Zoney, he should have caught. I thought, you know, 641 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: and Allen was late with that throw, but he still 642 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: got to catch the football. Those are the little things. 643 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: He's going to be a really good tight EDDI he's 644 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: just not there yet. I think when you look at 645 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: the receivers, John Brown's had a great season, but they 646 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: need a big guy on the other side. I mean 647 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: a j Green would be the perfect compliment to John 648 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Brown on the other side. And I think that's what 649 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: they're missing in that offense. I think that's what Josh 650 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: Allen's missing. And then it took him a while to 651 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: get singletary going, and now you're seeing more and more 652 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and now you put the ball in the ground. You 653 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: can't do that. But he's looking like he's become the 654 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: guy that they expect him to become. So yeah, I 655 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: like what I've seen from that team. And by the way, 656 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win this week. I'm in the 657 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: minority on that one too. I think the Patriots offense 658 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: is struggling. I think the Bill's defense is playing outstanding football. 659 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned with back to back, you know, 660 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: road games, that's always tough, but I think they can win. YEA, 661 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: what do you think the problem is with the Patriot offense, 662 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: what do you see? It's speed. It's a lack of speed. 663 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: They don't scare anybody down the field. I mean, that's 664 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: that's first and foremost. And in the past when you 665 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: had the lack of speed, because really they only had 666 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: a great outside playmaker in recent times with Randy Moss, 667 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: and that was a whole different offense and a whole 668 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: different dimension that they haven't had. But when they had Gronk, 669 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: they could compensate for that. If you had Edelman and Gronk, 670 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you couldn't double both of them, and you were able 671 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: to compensate for your lack of speed without Gronk. Now 672 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: you have Edelman, everybody doubles them and nobody's winning outside. 673 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's easy to see it's a 674 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: definite lack of speed. With Pete Priscoe from CBS Sports, 675 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: NFL writer from CBS Sports, back to the Bills for 676 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: a second. When we've been asking our listeners today, Pete 677 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: this question, So Bills at Patriots, what's the reason to 678 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: root for? The biggest reason to root for a Bills win? 679 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: And one of the options is it would represent the 680 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: changing of the guard in the AFC East Patriots have 681 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: won the division ten straight years. Do you see that happening. 682 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Do you see that happening if the Bills should win Saturday, 683 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: or do you see that in the future the Bills, 684 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Mike replaced the Patriots as the team to beat in 685 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: this division. Well, I predicted they would win the division 686 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: next year. That was my prediction before the season. I said, 687 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: they get to the postseason this year and win the 688 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: division next year. And I still think that's going to happen. Yeah, 689 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: I absolutely think that's that's in the process. That's happening, 690 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: And you gotta give them the credit for a way 691 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: to built that team. You know, there's still a couple 692 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: of spots. The offensive line of times has been leaky. 693 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: They've been leaky against the run. They need to get, 694 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, bigger I think bigger people up front to help, 695 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, choke off the run a little bit. But 696 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: you gotta like what you're seeing. Edmonds is growing and 697 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: he's athletic kid. Milana is one of the most underrated 698 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: players in the NFL. He doesn't get too he deserves. 699 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Those two stafeties are smart and athletic, and they cover 700 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot of ground and we know, White's outstanding. You know, 701 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Wallace to me, the guy he had his moments where 702 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: he looked really good in the early part of the season, 703 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of tailed the middle and and but he's still 704 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: got capable ability to become a top corner as well. 705 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: So I love what they've done. They still have some problems, 706 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: but it's switching, it's it's it's just changing in the guard. 707 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: They will be the best team in the division next year. 708 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that? How it? Say, for instance, if this, 709 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: if tom Brady does hang it how big of a 710 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: dropoff do you expect? Murph and I have been debating 711 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: this for quite a while now. We had a little 712 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: discussion on a minute ago. Say, for instance, if Tom 713 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Brady does hang it up or ends up on another team, 714 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: which I don't think will happen, but how big a 715 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: drop off do you expect from the forty two year 716 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: old Tom Brady too? Whoever it may be that they 717 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: plug in next What if it's Jared Stidham and they 718 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: do like him, It's going to be a drop off. 719 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: Of course, it's going to be a drop off. And 720 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: again he's not Tom Brady of old. But in one game, 721 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: two games, three games, it's possible he can be, and 722 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: that's the thing that you have in your back pocket. 723 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: If he's not there, then I think there's a significant 724 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: drop off because he even as bad at times as 725 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: he's played this year, he still compensates for some of 726 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: the problems. The offensive line hasn't been great, and we 727 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: know Dante Scarnecki is the best line coach in football. 728 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: He'll get that group together by playoff time. But he compensate. 729 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: They haven't run the ball very well. A lot of 730 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: the stuff they do was off play actions. They need 731 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: to run the ball more. We saw a little hint 732 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: of that with Sony Michelle last week. Remember in the 733 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: playoffs last year, they ran the football. So yeah, there 734 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: would be a big drop off. And then you look 735 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: at the other two teams in the division. Miami's building something, 736 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: and believe me, I'd love to have all those draft 737 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: picks and all that money because a couple of years 738 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: are going to be very good football team. And then 739 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: the Jets, who knows. I mean, it's all about what 740 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: they do around Sam Darnold. So if you ask me 741 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: right now who will win the division next year, I'd 742 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: say the Buffalo Bills. Pete this year and again division 743 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: title aside for a second Bills are in the playoffs, 744 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: can they should we look for a deep run, a 745 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: couple of wins, just one, or just be happy to 746 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: make it. What do you think about the Bills playoff prospects? Well, 747 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough road, it really is. I mean, 748 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: they'll probably have to win at what used to You know, 749 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: that's not impossible. They can win that game. You know, 750 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta control the ball. And you saw 751 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: Drew Loco in there and light them up a couple 752 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. So that's a winnable game. And then 753 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: you win that, you're gonna have to play what the Ravens, Yeah, 754 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: you know that, I mean, or or you might have 755 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: to play the Patriots or the Chiefs, And yeah, those 756 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: teams are all beat a ball. I don't think there's 757 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: anybody that you can look at. You go look look 758 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: how they played through Ravens toe to toe when they 759 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: played them up there. They were they were one of 760 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: the defenses that actually did a really good job on 761 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You had the one bust on her sixty 762 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: yard touchdown. Other than that, they didn't do anything that day. 763 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, they can play with anybody because of that defense. Pete, 764 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: you've got your power rankings. You've got the Buffalo Bills 765 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: at ninth. What talk a little bit about the top 766 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: three or four teams. There's some teams and you look 767 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: at the NFC, they've got a bunch of guys sitting 768 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: at eleven and three. I mean, it's a power conference 769 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: over there. They got a it's a horse race. Let 770 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: alone the conference, Let alone for the AFC or the 771 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: NFC West. And there's some really good football teams on 772 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: that side of the bracket. What do you see happening 773 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: in the playoffs? And your power ranking is overall across 774 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: the league? Yeah, And you know it's interesting because you 775 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: saw San Francisco go in and beat New Orleans and 776 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: they both put up a bunch of points, and that's 777 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: a red flag for the same defense. Because the forty 778 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: nineers offense is that good. It's a red flag for 779 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers offense. So then you see them 780 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: come home and they lose to the Falcons. Those are 781 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: major issues for me. And then you know when the 782 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: Saints give up that many points to the forty nine Ers, 783 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: they gave up a boatload of points to the Panthers 784 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: and should have lost that game. So those are issues 785 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: as well. And then they bounce back and they limit 786 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: you know, Jacobe Rissette last night, so that's a good 787 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: turnaround for them, even though they're banged up on defense. 788 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: And then you got the Packers. I don't think we've 789 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: seen the best of the Packers yet, I really don't. 790 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that offense is played to the expectations 791 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: and it's still got eleven wins. They got a big 792 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: game this week, but really isn't a big game because 793 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: if they even if they lose to the Vikings this 794 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: week and beat the Lines next week, there's a division 795 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: chant so I don't know how big it is for seeding, 796 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and you'd like to win the game and lock it up. 797 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: But they still got outfits. They do lose a game. 798 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: It's a tough conference. And it's funny because a week 799 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: ago Frisco was number one, cruising to the home field 800 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: advantage after beating the Saints. Then they lose another in 801 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: the five seed in Seattle's number one, right, yeah, And 802 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's a little bit like the AFC 803 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: as well. The six wild cards got a two game 804 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: lead and or built Buffalo with the fifth The fifth 805 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: seed has a two game lead on the fifth seed 806 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: in the tournament. So there's it seems to be a 807 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: gap between the teams that are just in the hunt 808 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: and the teams that are actually um sitting have already 809 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: clinched and in the NFC that you know, everybody, okay, Well, 810 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: whoever wins the East is gonna be a terrible team. 811 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: That no, they're not, because you're gonna have to go 812 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: there and you go to Philly and in the playoffs, 813 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,479 Speaker 1: you go to Dallas in the playoffs. Those are gonna 814 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: be tough games. So I think it's wide open, I 815 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: really do. I don't think there's a clear cut great 816 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: team in this league this year, and I think that's 817 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: a good thing. Pete, thanks for your time today, Thanks 818 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: for your observations. Hope we talk again soon. We appreciate 819 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: it absolutely absolutely, guys, take care of thanks, Pete. Pete Priscos, 820 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior NFL rider, the host of the Pick 821 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: six podcasts. He's covered the league for over three decades. 822 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: We always seem to for some reason that the combine 823 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: you were there last year, they always put his group 824 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: CBS Sports right next to right next to us. Yeah, 825 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: so we feel like it's for Pete Prisco next to 826 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: find yourself listening to their show as we do. We're 827 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: doing a breaks and they're there in the middle of 828 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: a segment. We're sitting there watching them, you know, eating 829 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: a sandwich or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah, they were 830 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: right next to us the whole week. Yeah, he says, 831 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: the Bills win the division next year, not this. Okay, 832 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: all right, we'll get picky about that. We'll see. We're 833 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: in we'll see. Yeah, we got a break, We're coming back. 834 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. Give us a call 835 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: eight three fifty to three one eight eight eight by 836 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What do you see is the 837 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: biggest reason you should root for a Bills win? Saturday 838 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: in Foxborough. Let's hear from you. One Bill's Live presented 839 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: by Klata Health. Coming here from the Seneca Studio in 840 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: Orchard Park, Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. He's 841 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: been talking to Pete Crisco. I saw him at a 842 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Bills game this year, Roady. I can't remember which one 843 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, you were trying to figure that out, remember, 844 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: and it's sting's getting old. Let me know how it 845 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: goes when you're you got ahead of me a year 846 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: or two. I'm the leader in the House in terms 847 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: of age. Hey, we're talking about the Bills winning in 848 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Foxboro and wanting to know from you what would be 849 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: the best part of that if they should get a victory. 850 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: That is our Twitter poll. It's a good one, Steve. 851 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, it's a good 852 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: Twitter poll because you know what, there's no wrong answer. 853 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: That might be the you know how we always see 854 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: keep them simple quarterback questions. We're talking about what makes 855 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: a successful Twitter poll. I think the ones where there's 856 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: no wrong answer are good ones too. And that's what 857 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: this a wrong answer, it's a pole. What's the biggest 858 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: reason for a Bills win in Foxborough? What do you think? 859 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: A thousand votes in already in less than an hour 860 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Fifty one percent of you say it would 861 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: be a sign of a changing in the guard in 862 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: the AFC East. It would be Pete Prisco says it's 863 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: gonna happen next year. Thirty two percent of you say 864 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: it would keep the Bills divisional title hopes alive as 865 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: long as they are. That's where I'm voting. I think 866 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: that's something to play for. Fourteen percent of you say 867 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: it's the last chance, could be anyway, the last chance 868 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: to beat Tom Brady at age forty two. Maybe he 869 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: doesn't return to play, Maybe he doesn't um play for 870 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: the play for the Patriots. Maybe the Bills beat him 871 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: so badly that he doesn't, he decides not to come 872 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: back next year. What about that? That would be great 873 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: if the Bills punish him physically and he said that 874 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: that's enough. Would that be cool? That could happen? That 875 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: would be cool. Four percent if something else will live 876 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: out you live out there in that nether world and 877 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: thinking that that's not gonna happen. That is not gonna happen. Okay, 878 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: they're a top ten SAC team. They could put heat 879 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: on the passer. What do you think? Give us a 880 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: call or maybe you want to go on the tweet cheat. 881 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: Let's give you the tweet sheet, brought to you by 882 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. 883 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: What he got there in the tweet cheeks heat? All right, 884 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: biggest reason for a win over the Patriots in Foxborough 885 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: from Bills and Mets fan, a smug Patriot fan in work, 886 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: admitted to me today that he's worried about Saturday. He 887 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: sees what we're all seeing, the inevitable end of the 888 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: Patriots dynasty. Everything comes to an end. The future is here, 889 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: and it's in Josh's strong right arm and our outstanding defense. 890 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: Like that, it's a little bit of it makes me 891 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: cheer up a little bit. There's a little bit of 892 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: conjurens in that that I'm not sharing confidence about what 893 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: that all that New England is gonna self implode or 894 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and the and the Bills are going 895 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: to roll in there and just you know whatever. Also 896 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: from Brian, at the beginning of the season, I had 897 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: one had three criteria for this being my ideal season. 898 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: Here we go. Number one, make the playoffs. Check number two. 899 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: Contend for the division title. Check number three. Beat the 900 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: Patriots at least once. Question mark. I don't care if 901 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: it's this Saturday or in the playoffs, but I want 902 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: to beat them this year. Bad. I would be bad lead, 903 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: But yeh bad. What a great season that must be 904 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: for Brian to get those At least two of those 905 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: three checked off already, w still two games left to play, 906 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: it would be a fairly successful season. Yeah, if you, 907 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: But I still think you're right. You still want to 908 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: beat that team. Um. I think that at this point 909 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: in history has become the for some Bills fans, the 910 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: holy grail. You know, they want to see it happen. 911 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: They want to on a level not in week seventeen 912 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: when Tom Brady's sitting down, you know, drinking gatorade, but 913 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: when they need the game and we need the game 914 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: and go into their building and beat them. That's that's 915 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty much a that's a unicorn. And over the last 916 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: two decades, nobody's been a guard. Nobody's been able to 917 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: do it. Changing into the guard. It could happen. From 918 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: Max tweets this in the biggest reason for a win 919 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 1: over the Patriots Saturday, Max tweets in other just beating 920 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: New England, no matter the circumstance. It's great to beat 921 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: New England and it's been a little while. Let's just 922 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: go in and beat them and the other three options 923 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: take care of themselves. Plus beating a true contender would 924 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: give us a lot of confidence going into January. I'm 925 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: a little confused, Max about a true contender, aren't the 926 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Bills a true contender? Are they a false contender? They 927 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: got ten wins with two games to play. Why are 928 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots with one more win a true contender? Their history? 929 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that history means anything. Did you know 930 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I know exactly what you're saying. Why 931 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: are they a true contender in the Bills aren't contender 932 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: for what championship? Well, the Bills are going to be 933 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: in the tournament, a couple of wins away from a 934 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: super Bowl, right, I think they're a true contender. I'm 935 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 1: not saying they're a favorite. I'm not saying I would 936 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: bet on him or pick them, but a true contender. 937 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: The Bills are a true contender. What do you mean 938 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: beating a true contender? Sorry, I don't mean to jump 939 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: on you. Well, he's not saying that we're not. He's 940 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: saying you need to beat one and he didn't. Just 941 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: that's that's what I was gonna say. You must not 942 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: consider the Steelers a true contender. Although the Steelers tournament, 943 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: if they yeah, and they would have been the five seed, 944 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: we would have been reverse places with him. Had the 945 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: game gone the other way, the Bills would still be 946 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: sitting in the in the top spot or in the 947 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: sixth seed, and the Steelers would be the fifth seed. 948 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: That's the only difference. So yeah, if you're in the tournament, 949 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: you are a contender. But I get it. This next 950 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: the tweet is good. You want to read it from 951 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: the Big Bills. Okay, here we go to me. It's 952 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: very important for the Bills. You get to win over 953 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: New England as a sort of passing the torch before 954 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: the New England dynasty is over, rather than the Bills 955 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: getting the torch just because they're the next man up. 956 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: I get that. Yeah, you want to beat him while 957 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: Tom is still there instead of having him leave and 958 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now it's just now it's 959 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: a coin flip every time. They don't have that dynasty 960 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: going because Tom Brady's gone. Yeah, I geeah, I get better, 961 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: I said as a strong sentiment. Let's face it, we 962 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: got a lot of AFC East, not just the Bills fans, 963 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: but also Jet fans in Miami fans. They got a 964 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: lot of scar tissue built up around the conflict with 965 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's a lot of that and for good reason. 966 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the team is common. They've been dominant for 967 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: a better part of two decades. So it's yeah, there's 968 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: that runs deep. I think for a lot of people. 969 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: See one call here before we hit the break, we're 970 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: going to Cheetawaga. Who am I talking with in Cheetwaga? 971 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: Who is this? Frank Rank? You're on the air? Go ahead, Frank, 972 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing good? I just think I'd go 973 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: a long way for this team to go into New England, 974 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: beat them, get the monkey off their back. No one 975 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: more than likely if they do this, they're gonna meet 976 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: them in the playoffs again in New England. You have 977 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: a little confidence to the team, which they really don't need. 978 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: But it's just like, get the monkey off your back. 979 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: They haven't beaten New England and Brady in New England. 980 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: And how many years it's gonna would be, say five years, 981 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: six years, twenty twelve, fourteen. I don't have it in 982 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: front of me, but I'll get it. The thing of 983 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 1: it is, uh, they beat New England, but Brady wasn't 984 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: there in that one particular game. No one gave me 985 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: played the first half two years ago. Yeah, you did 986 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: play in the first half in that one game. I 987 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: get you, Frank, all right? Thank you want to you Yeah, 988 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 1: like I said a minute ago, you want to beat 989 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: New England when they need the game too. You want 990 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: to beat New England in New England when the game 991 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: is important to them too, when it means something to 992 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: them and their chances as well. And I think this 993 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: game sort of qualifies for that. They still have the 994 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: lead in the division even if they win this game, 995 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's that much at stake 996 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: for New England. The division will will be tied, but 997 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: they've got the tiebreaker right, so they'll still they'll still 998 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: win the division even if the Bills win, even if 999 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: both teams went out. But the next you know, the 1000 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: next week, the next week, if you're if you've got 1001 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: that that what do you call conspiracy theorist mentality, You'll 1002 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: say the Patriots could come in throw this game knowing 1003 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: that they can beat the Dolphins next week and show 1004 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: the Bills things that will help the Patriots if they 1005 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: do get a rematch in New England at the second 1006 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: time around, when it's really important in the playoffs. Do 1007 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: you believe that now you're gonna try and win this, 1008 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: Bill Man, Kyle Brant, stay, anybody to join us next 1009 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: from the NFL Network, host of Good Morning Football. We'll 1010 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: talk with Kyle about all of these issues. We want 1011 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: to hear more from you as well, so come on back. 1012 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: One Goes Live presented by KLATA Health from the Seneca 1013 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Bills 1014 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: Radio Network Sports. It comes from One Goes Live. Or 1015 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: The Bills had a short practice today as they get 1016 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: set for a Saturday game, a matchup with the New 1017 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 1: England Patriots. There is something on the line. The Bills 1018 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: with an out side remote chance of an AFC East 1019 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: Division title. They need to win a couple and the 1020 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: Patriots need to lose the couple. Obviously, on the Bill's 1021 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: injury front, head coach Sean McDermott had little to say 1022 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: yesterday about the status of offensive lineman Tyan Seki, who's 1023 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: missed the last four games. He will talk to the 1024 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: meeting in tomorrow, maybe have an update on the injuries. 1025 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: John Hussey has been assigned as the referee for Saturday's 1026 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: game between the Patriots and the Bills. Kick out four 1027 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: thirty Saturday afternoon in Foxborough. Tonight eight pm, the Pro 1028 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: Bowl rosters will be announced. It'll be an NFL Network 1029 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl special NFL Total Access Pro Bowl players revealed 1030 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: eight PM tonight. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was the leader 1031 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: among the fan votes for the Pro Bowl. The Pro 1032 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: Bowl coming up obviously in January. Bills have a good 1033 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: chance to get Tredavious White into his first Pro Bowl. 1034 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: We'll find out tonight at eight o'clock. Drew Brees made 1035 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,760 Speaker 1: NFL history last night. He broke Peyton Manning's career touchdown 1036 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: record with a five yard touchdown pass the tight end 1037 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: Josh Hill. Midway through the third quarter. He had five 1038 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: hundred forty and then he also made NFL history by 1039 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: registering a ninety six point seven completion percentage in the 1040 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: saints thirty four to seven win over the Indianapolis Colts. 1041 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: A huge night for Drew Brees last night. In the 1042 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: game in their win over the Colts, Rams quarterback Jared 1043 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: Goff suffered a thumb bruise on his right throwing hand 1044 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: in the second quarter of this past Sunday. His status 1045 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: is unknown. Mcvea Sean mcvays, coach, said he's getting better, 1046 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: but they're not sure about his availability this weekend. The 1047 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs Monday yesterday claimed Terrell Suggs off waivers. He is 1048 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: expected to report to the AFC West Division champions. His 1049 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: status about as far as reporting, had come into question 1050 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: after he was cut by the Arizona Cardinals last week. 1051 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: Seahawks wide receiver Josh Gordon has been suspended indefinitely for 1052 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: violating NFL policies on performance and nancing drugs. And the 1053 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: Savers in action tonight in Toronto seven o'clock face off 1054 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: in Toronto against the Leafs, and there you go. The 1055 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: update from our Seneca studio and Archerd Park. John Murphy, 1056 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and our favorite guests. One of our favorite 1057 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: guests all week long, joins us right now. He is 1058 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: the co host of Good Morning Football on NFL Network. 1059 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 1: Happy happen with us with us here right now, Kyle 1060 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: Brant joined us. Hello Kyle, welcome to the show. Thanks 1061 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: for coming on. How you doing today? I was a 1062 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: pleasure of Murk Steve. I'm excited, especially this week because 1063 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: it feels like it's Prom week for the Buffalo Bills. 1064 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all dressed up, fancy limo. Everybody's watching 1065 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: It's prom night. You could go one of two ways 1066 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Do you remember your senior prom? Tell us 1067 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: about it please, I do remember. It was very nice affair. 1068 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: M my my rented tuxedo shoes were a little tight, 1069 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: but I got it through, you know, I got Did 1070 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: you go with Sarah? Did you know Sarah? I did not? Okay, 1071 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: I want more questions. I want to ask more questions. 1072 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: I picture you in the powder blue ruffle, the cumberbund, 1073 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: Steve and matching the both high and everything is probably killer. 1074 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: That's the Bills this weekend. That's it. I'm ready. What 1075 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: was last Sunday? Wasn't at the prom too? The Sunday 1076 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: Night football nationally televised win over the Steelers? Yeah? It was, 1077 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was good, it was great. This is 1078 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 1: not the same day, though. The Steelers are the Steelers, 1079 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: and they I had a duck caller as their quarterback. 1080 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: This we're going from ducks to goats in terms of 1081 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that they're playing, big, big jump up in 1082 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: this one. I feel like it's a huge leap and 1083 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: weight class. Now. I gotta tell you, you're right. It's 1084 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: a different kind of week for the Buffalo Bills, a 1085 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: different kind of week for me. I don't have any 1086 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: kind of analogy I can offer you for about what 1087 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: the Bills are sitting here, because I don't know, it's 1088 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: been so long since the Bills have clinched to playoff 1089 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: birth this early. I don't know what to do. Yeah, 1090 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how you actually it's cool, but it's 1091 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: also I think in times like this, as you look 1092 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: in the past, it's been a long time since they 1093 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: have clinched this year early, Steve, But I would also 1094 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: look at this, and this is where I'm standing kind 1095 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: of institutionally on this week right now with the Bills. 1096 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get too excited about where they're going 1097 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: or what they're doing in the playoffs. Because they're going 1098 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. I'm not going to get too excited 1099 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: unless they take care of this Patriots thing. And by 1100 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: this Patriots thing, I mean, you guys know this. This 1101 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: goes back to twenty eleven. I'm talking about beating Tom 1102 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: Brady in a four quarter game in which he has 1103 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: everything to play for the last time it happened, it 1104 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: was Ryan Fitzpatrick to Steve Johnson. Let's timestamp, But just 1105 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 1: for perspective, I'll go even further. The last time that happened, guys, 1106 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: forget about Fitzpatrick and Stevie Johnson. Steve Tasker was working 1107 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,919 Speaker 1: a Broncos Titans game for CBS. That was Kyle Orton 1108 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: versus Matt Hasselback. That's how long ago it was. And 1109 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: I'll do you one better, Murph, you were the sports 1110 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: director at the CBS to fill it. Just writing your 1111 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris, that's the last time that happened. It's 1112 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: been a while, So I can't get to excite unless 1113 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: they knock these guys off. Yeah, you're right. I mean 1114 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: it's we were all in a different place back then, 1115 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: no question about it. I remember as well, though. The 1116 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: interceptions that Tom Brady threw we just saw we're watching 1117 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: them there on MSG. You know, a couple of tipped passes. 1118 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: You know, there were all kinds of things that went 1119 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: wrong in that game. The bill still only you know, 1120 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: they squeak out a three point victory at home. You 1121 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: just don't do that to Tom Brady every that much. 1122 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: And going into Foxborough, the Patriots just don't lose in 1123 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: that building. It doesn't seem like just almost to anybody 1124 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: except maybe the occasional Chiefs team. Yeah, and so it 1125 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: kind of is this thing Steve with It's like if 1126 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: not now, when when? If you're not gonna beat Brady 1127 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: there now, then I don't know if it's going to 1128 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: happen until retire. Let's think about it. He's coming off 1129 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,959 Speaker 1: a loss at home to a young, upstart Chiefs team. 1130 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: He apparently is bothered by this elbow. He has no 1131 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: one to throw to, even good old faithful Julian Edelman, 1132 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: I think had two catches last week for almost nothing. 1133 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: There has never ever been more blood in the water 1134 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 1: with this new England dynasty and they're facing it. Bill's 1135 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 1: team that's on fire. So it's like, here's the danger 1136 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: of it. The Bills should compete in this game. They 1137 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: should win this game. They're a better team right now. 1138 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: But if you lose this game, it's a huge punch 1139 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: in the stomach for Buffalo, I think, because it's just like, 1140 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: what do we gotta do. It's never gonna be set 1141 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: up better than this to win there, and we still 1142 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 1: can't do it. I think there's pressure there with Kyle 1143 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 1: Brandy has hosted Good Morning Football on NFL Network seven 1144 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: am weekdays. Kyle, let me get you involved in our 1145 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: Twitter poll. I think it's a great I came up 1146 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 1: with it today. It's a it's a really good smiling nod, Kyle, 1147 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: you got here. It is And it's about this weekend's game, 1148 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: about Saturday's game. And what's the biggest reason, the best 1149 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: reason for Bills fans to root for a victory in Foxborough? 1150 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: What's the biggest reason the Bills should be interested in 1151 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: victory in Foxborough? Is it a it keeps their AFC 1152 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: East Division chances alive? They need this to do that. 1153 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: Is it be a sign of a changing of the 1154 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: guard in the division, or is it c maybe the 1155 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: last chance to beat Tom Brady. Can you pick one 1156 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: of those or do you like all of them? Well, 1157 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna pick the juiciest one, Steve, I mean, 1158 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna Steve John, I'm gonna pick be I'm gonna 1159 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: pick the changing of the guard. Now that's a loaded 1160 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: sound bite right there. We've heard that sound bite many 1161 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: times with many Bills coaches, with many Bills quarterbacks. And yet, look, 1162 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 1: this season does feel special, Steve. You said it yourself. 1163 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: It's almost the surreal state of mind you're in right 1164 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: now that you've clinched this early and I want the 1165 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: change in the Guards. Guys. I have to talk about 1166 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 1: football every morning like you do, and I'm so tired 1167 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: of eating the same sandwich every day with the Patriots. 1168 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than the Bills when the 1169 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: AFC East, and even more so. I mean, look, I 1170 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: know you guys talked about it a lot, but Josh 1171 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: Allen getting off the plane at two thirty in the 1172 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: morning or whatever it is, to the tarmac and there's 1173 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: thousands of people there, not for a playoff win, just 1174 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: for clinching a wild card game that they didn't even 1175 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 1: win at home. So the idea that he could show 1176 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: up if they ever had a home playoff game, I 1177 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: can't even imagine the atmosphere. And I gotta say this 1178 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. I think the hidden blessing in this video. 1179 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that he's not wearing a coat. It'll jacket, 1180 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: no parka, no hat, nothing. He's sitting in it. That's 1181 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: a Bills quarterback right there. That's a go pokes Wyoming guy. 1182 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: It's so so much toughness. It's like the guys who 1183 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: come out for warmups with no sleeves on. He comes 1184 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: off the plane with no code on. And I just 1185 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: this gets me so excited, the idea of a home 1186 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: playoff game in Western New York. I have to have 1187 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: it just for the pure spectacle. Yeah, and I agree. 1188 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it about this game last last Sunday 1189 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 1: night in Pittsburgh. Certainly had two former college teammates going 1190 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: against Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott. There was that Larry 1191 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: had the Edmunds brothers who were on the field together. 1192 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: At the same time, you had the Buffalo Bills going 1193 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: in and really winning a really hard fought game exactly 1194 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: the way so many people thought it was gonna us 1195 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: included I was going to be a low scoring, defensive battle. 1196 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: The Bills come out on top. They turned the Renegade 1197 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: song into their own personal anthem in practice all weekend. 1198 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 1: It comes through and the answer right after the anthem 1199 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: with a forty yard bomb to John Brown. I mean, 1200 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: it really went well. Does it tell you anything more 1201 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: that we didn't know about the Bills? Does it set 1202 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: them up for some more success? Does it? You know, 1203 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: what's it due to the Bills persona around the country. 1204 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: Does anything change or does everything change? No, Steve, it 1205 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean it really was because you know, 1206 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about this all the year. The Bills haven't 1207 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 1: beating anybody here that and then even after they beat 1208 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: up the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, well, the Cowboys aren't good. Listen. 1209 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: That was Hines Field as Mike Tomlin. That's one of 1210 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league. And that place was rocking. 1211 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like one of these European soccer stadiums. 1212 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: It was raucous, and you have this young offense with 1213 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: Buffalo facing that down making the big throws. It was 1214 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: a big boy game. I mean, that was a grown 1215 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: up Buffalo Bill's team, and we saw the maturation of 1216 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen right in front of us. Not because he 1217 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: was spectacular and through for four hundred yards, but it 1218 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: was two young quarterbacks and one of them made all 1219 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: the mistakes, you know, I mean devil and I just 1220 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: throws four picks that could have been Josh Allen, and 1221 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: it could have been mac offense, Patrick here and t J. 1222 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: Walk here. It wasn't. The Bills let their defense win it, 1223 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: and Josh Ellen made a couple of big throws and 1224 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: didn't do anything a radic, didn't do anything crazy, which 1225 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 1: as we know, I mean, look forward to this weekend. 1226 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: That's gonna be it. You go against the Patriots. We 1227 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: saw it the first time around. Josh Allen came around 1228 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: and he looked wild. Just thrown it all over the 1229 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: second or interception here, interception here. This is a game 1230 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. You win it like the Pittsburgh game. And 1231 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: I listen. If I had to pick the script for 1232 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 1: Buffalo against New England, I'd have them win the game 1233 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen. It's just simple throw it away, house, scud. 1234 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: You want to talk how big a house does in 1235 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: this game? Man eleven of his last twelve kicks, he's 1236 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: I think this game is gonna be one on his foot, 1237 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: and I will be just singing the praises of Josh 1238 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: Allen on a random third and six. If he just 1239 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 1: chucks into the fiftieth row, that's how I gonna win this. 1240 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: Steve made reference to it. Did you catch the You 1241 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: know the Steelers have this sticks renegade song that's been there, Yeah, 1242 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: good luck charm for years. I guess they waited until 1243 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: fourth quarter a tie game ten to ten, and they 1244 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: played at the place goes nuts. Did you see how 1245 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: Bills players reacting on the side lens. It was great. 1246 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: The Bills danced along with the Steelers fans. Yeah, I 1247 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: mean you, of all people, you hat Matt Barkley helicoptering jacket. 1248 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: You got guys bob in their heads backup. Quarterbacks are 1249 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 1: doing it. And here's what I like about that. Sean 1250 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: McDermot runs a tight ship. It's almost like a very 1251 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: college program. It's been a lot of discipline, but it's 1252 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: okay to have a little nasty, to have some panache, 1253 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: to have some showmanship. I love it, guys, especially in 1254 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: the day that Sean McDermott was against his old teammate. 1255 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the coolest moments. They 1256 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: had to take it in that stadium. Sticks. I don't 1257 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: even know if these players on the Bills know of 1258 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: the band's sticks. That's the music you were listening to 1259 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: much apparently got it and limps and I was killing 1260 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: that song too. And I'll tell you this, Hey, let's 1261 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: talk about some individuals. Turdavious White showed up in a 1262 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: big way. You've got guys who really stepped up, and 1263 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: also the young guy Devin Singletary offensively, he's obviously the 1264 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: lead guy for the Buffalo offense and the running game. 1265 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: They're starting to use him a little more in the 1266 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 1: pass game. The one thing about this Bill's team that 1267 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: we've been able to observe, I mean, you've done it. 1268 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean you've been hanging in there with us through 1269 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, all fifteen weeks. They're getting better and better 1270 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: and better. And you see some of the young players 1271 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: now contributing a little bit and then a little more 1272 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: more than a little more. And now all of a sudden, 1273 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: you've got, you know, a young guy like Devin Singletary 1274 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: who's the bell cow of the offense, and also Tradavious White, 1275 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: who has really spread his wings as a superstar. It's 1276 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: all over the maps, Steve Oliver and Edmunds and Singletary. Look, 1277 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: he looks good. And I know that he's missed some 1278 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: time this year, but that might be serving him well 1279 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: right now because he is running in week fifteen with 1280 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: like week five legs. He's joking guys, he's running over guys. 1281 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: He's got this thing where he's small, where he disappears 1282 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: for a second that he's out the gates. And this 1283 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: is the time of year where running games either they 1284 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: fall apart because everybody's gassed and we're seeing that around 1285 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: the league a little bit or all of a sudden, 1286 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: they're like, wow, where did this guy come from? You know? 1287 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: I point to last year the LA Rams when they're 1288 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: going on their run and Gurley was kind of getting 1289 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: gassed out. They start handing it to C. J. Anderson 1290 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and the guy looks like Earl Campbell 1291 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: in a Rams helmet. This is the time when you 1292 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: see what kind of batteries left on your running game? 1293 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: And I think maybe Singletary being out, maybe he has 1294 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: helped him because he looks really fresh, really exciting, not 1295 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: only you know, the scatback stuff, but power. We're seeing 1296 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: stiff arms, he does everything that is the type of 1297 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: January type run. It gets me excited. The Bills should 1298 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: be excited about this game, and they have a lot 1299 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: to play for. We've established that Patriots have even more 1300 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to play for, including avoiding to having to play in 1301 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the first round. Right, they still want to finish in 1302 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: the top two mark. They haven't played in a wild 1303 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: card weekend since two thousand and nine. Wow, it's just 1304 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: not what they do. It's built into their fabric that 1305 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: we get a week off, we get an extra bye 1306 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: week and then most of the time we go to 1307 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. It would be this crazy, freaky Friday 1308 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: reversal if all of a sudden, Tom Brady is playing 1309 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: a Saturday playoff game and wild card weekend. And yet 1310 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing with them. They have so much equity 1311 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: and you have so much respect over twenty years of winning. 1312 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: That's what's carrying them right now. It's not what you 1313 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: see on the field. It's not that they look that great. 1314 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: The offense is nothing. I mean, it's really really bad. 1315 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: And let's not forget early in the season when the 1316 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Patriots were still cooking and they're still undefeated, and they 1317 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: had things going and Josh Gordon is still there. They 1318 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: still got wombed by both those defense. That's one of 1319 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the worst games that Brady's played in his career was 1320 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: way back and whatever it was, late September, early October 1321 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: against this Buffalo defense. I don't think it's a coincidence 1322 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels, their who coordinator, came out this week 1323 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: and has already said this is the best defense that 1324 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: we face all year, this Bill's defense. He knew they 1325 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: looked awful in this game. In the Sunshine, the brilliant 1326 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Sunshine in Western New York. It looks like a different season. 1327 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: So this is when they were playing well, that's why 1328 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I say it again. I have every confidence that the 1329 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Bill's defense is going to really shackle Tom Brady. It's 1330 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: just a question of whether or not the Bill's offense 1331 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: is going to give this thing away. Just a couple 1332 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: of dumb players could lose this game from Buffalo if 1333 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: they played smart. I think they're gonna win it. It 1334 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: is an NFL Network game Saturday at four thirty Kilo 1335 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: and your co host on Good Morning Football, Peter Schrager 1336 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: is going to be in the sidelines. He just has 1337 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: to come to you. He didn't have to go to 1338 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: a production meeting, right He has to come to you 1339 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: for his Bill's questions. I happen to know that Peter 1340 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: has a want list the people he wants to talk to, 1341 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: and at the top of that list is somebody you mentioned, Steve. 1342 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: He wants to talk to Trey White because he's always 1343 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: got something to say right now. And there's also like 1344 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: there's a contest within a contest in this one about him. 1345 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: Who is the best cornerback in this game? Is it 1346 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: tradevious White? Is it Stefan Gilmore? Both of them had 1347 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: two picks last week, you know both of them obviously 1348 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 1: a current Bill, a former Bill, and Trey White is 1349 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: this guy that listen, no dude, I'll due respect. If 1350 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Trey White was on the Dallas Cowboys and a national 1351 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,919 Speaker 1: TV every single I think he'd be in chunky soup ads. 1352 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I think he'd be on the Wheati's box. He is 1353 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that good of a player and that big of a personality. 1354 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: He is the guy you're not going to get it 1355 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen or McDermott. They're all locked in. But 1356 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: he is the guy that if they beat New England, 1357 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: the first guy I want to go to with Trey White, 1358 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna have something to say. Well, let's take 1359 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: a trip down what if lane just for a minute, 1360 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. What if you can get 1361 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: your mind? Because I've I've thought about it a little bit. Obviously, 1362 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen if the Bills waltz into Foxborough and 1363 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: when let's say they beat win by ten, you know 1364 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: that something something unthinkable happens they win by ten, thirty 1365 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: to twenty or twenty to ten. That is almost in 1366 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the last month of the season. For a team, any 1367 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: team to go in there and do that to the Patriots, 1368 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: but let alone a Buffalo Bills team, how is that 1369 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: going to change things? It's staggering. I mean right, that's 1370 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: not a Buffalo story. That's not an AFC story. That 1371 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: is a coast to coast NFL story. Well, and you 1372 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: know if the problem is with that, and this is 1373 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to preempt this that happens this weekend Monday morning. 1374 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: The story has nothing to do with oh my gosh, 1375 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the Bills are so good Monday morning. The story is 1376 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,919 Speaker 1: the Patriots are dead. And it's true. They'll be they'll 1377 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: be eulogies and they'll start writing the epitaphs. But meanwhile, 1378 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 1: maybe some of us will know, oh my gosh, Buffalo 1379 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: is really good. If they beat New England in Foxboro 1380 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in December, who can't they be? All right? They did 1381 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: a pretty good job, as we've talked about against Baltimore. 1382 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I think there's progress to be made there. I think 1383 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 1: they can be Kansas City. Then then we're wide open. 1384 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: But we're doing the thing that I hate doing, Steve. 1385 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't like indulging the hypotheticals because they've been indulged 1386 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: many too many times against New England again twenty eleven. 1387 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Long time ago, Steve, you were working Kyle Rton versus Hasselbeck. Steve, 1388 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: We've got to take care of it. I can't do 1389 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: any more hypotheticals. They drive me crazy. Yeah, I'm totally 1390 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: with you. A couple more things. Let you go. Just 1391 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC playoff picture. Is there a 1392 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: team the Bill should look to avoid now that they're 1393 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Is there somebody that they can't match 1394 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 1: up with and they have no chance against. When you 1395 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: look at the AFC contenders so far, you know, the 1396 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: only teams that make me nervous when I when I 1397 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: think about Buffalo because their defense is so good they 1398 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: can play with anybody's offense. It would be the really 1399 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,080 Speaker 1: good defenses, the ones the ballhawks, the ones that that 1400 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: are gonna jump at Josh Allen route are going to 1401 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: hit him, make them throw a bad pass, because I 1402 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: think that's the weakness of Buffalo. And here's the thing. 1403 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: The two best teams that do that better than anybody 1404 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,920 Speaker 1: are Pittsburgh, who they just dealt with and who may 1405 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: not even get into the playoffs and then New England, 1406 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: who they got to score to settle with in a 1407 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: few days. So you know, Murph, I look at Casey, 1408 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I look at Baltimore. Of course they're good and maybe 1409 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: a hell of a challenge, but I feel like Buffalo 1410 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: has the horses to run with them because that they 1411 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: can match up against any good offense. It's the really 1412 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 1: good defenses that make me nervous with the Bills, And 1413 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: if they win this weekend, they've beaten both of them 1414 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: twice in a row. Pro Bowl announcement tonight on NFL 1415 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Network eight o'clock Bills fans should look for just Trdavious 1416 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: White or is there any other reasonable expectations for Bills 1417 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl? What do you think? How well? Listen. 1418 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: It's funny that they come out now because I think 1419 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: the Bills have a huge opportunity this weekend to become 1420 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: a household names last week last year I saw because 1421 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 1: of an alternate or somebody dropped out. I saw Mitch 1422 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Trabisky in a Pro Bowl last year, So I don't 1423 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: know the other thing that's gonna wash out, But certainly 1424 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has played this well as mister Trubisky did 1425 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: last year, and I wrote route for as many as possible. 1426 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: For sure, Tray White. Trey White is not a Pro 1427 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Bowl guy. Tray White is an All Pro guy. And 1428 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: we'll see if anybody else joins them. I hope so, 1429 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: because if you get to this many wins, you gotta 1430 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: have Pro bowlers. One last thing We've asked a couple 1431 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: of people. Listen, we've talked about it ourselves. Over on 1432 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: the other side of the league and the NFC, you 1433 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: got a bunch of horses over there. You got the 1434 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, the Seahawks, the ram you got some 1435 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: teams that are you know, the Saints, a bunch of 1436 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: eleven and three teams. That is a really tough tournament 1437 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: to get into. Who do you how do you think 1438 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna shake out? Who do you think the last 1439 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: team in is gonna be? It's a royal rumble right now. 1440 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: It's it's brutal, and the best thing about it is 1441 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: everybody that's coming Monday night is going to get a 1442 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 1: real treat in the sense that they're gonna get Vikings 1443 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 1: versus Packers, which is kind of a de facto playoff, 1444 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: playing really eleven and three versus ten and four, and 1445 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: then we still have you know, the the ugly Duckley 1446 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys versus the Eagles. Steve, if you're asking 1447 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: me who I have to throw on one team right now, 1448 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: it's really hard because of this great royal rumble factor. 1449 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: But it's cost to pick against the Saints. It is 1450 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: just because I feel like, out of nowhere, this forty 1451 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: year old Drew Brees has found this arm strength and 1452 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 1: this juice. And I don't know if he's working on 1453 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: his core or pliability or those rubber resistance bands or 1454 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: whatever the hell us forties something guys should do. He 1455 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: looks great. The Dome is still the Dome. Last night 1456 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: they ran through the Colts team like they weren't even there. 1457 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: There's about four or five that could win the thing. 1458 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I still think, though you could do a lot worse 1459 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: than thrown in with the Saints. I'll take New Orleans, 1460 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: all right? All right, Kyle? So Saturday night is prom 1461 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: night for the Bills, right, I should get a limo 1462 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,160 Speaker 1: and do all that. Get the Yeah. Now, hold on, Mark, 1463 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 1: we didn't hear about your senior problem. Give us something. 1464 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 1: There must be pictures on Google. That file has been sealed. 1465 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for this, have a great weekend. We'll talk to 1466 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,400 Speaker 1: you next week. Kyle Brand hosted Good Morning Football on 1467 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: NFL Network seven am weekdays. Thanks to Kyle for joining us. 1468 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: That guy's funny. I'm sorry, he's just correct. He's great. 1469 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah and he yea, his energy levels great. He did 1470 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,799 Speaker 1: a great angry runs segment today on Good Morning Football. 1471 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: He always does that. Dawson Knox still on the leaderboard. 1472 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's um, it's a fun show and 1473 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: it's you know, like we always say, it's part of 1474 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: our daily routine is tournament on and having wrong. But 1475 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 1: he's right that that the tournament. You look at this 1476 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is in is the sixth seed and they haven't 1477 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: clinched yet. Uh, they're behind Buffalo at ten and four. 1478 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 1: That's a two game lead on the On the there's 1479 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: only one the only spot for one one more team, 1480 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, Houston in the South and Houston Texans have 1481 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: not clinched yet over the Tennessee Titans. They both have 1482 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: a game against somebody this weekend and then they play 1483 01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: each other again week seventeen for that spot. And I 1484 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: think the losers out the winner's in. I think and 1485 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: one thing about Kyle what he said, and I think 1486 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 1: he's right. A Buffalo victory Saturday in Foxborough, the story 1487 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: nationally and I don't care about this, but the story 1488 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: would be Patriots are dead. It wouldn't be Bills are alive, 1489 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Bills taken over the you know, have a chance to 1490 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,719 Speaker 1: take over the AFC East. It would be the Patriots 1491 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: are dead, right. Yeah. The question, which is something to 1492 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: look forward to as well. If they're a Bills fan, 1493 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 1: by the way, right, questions would really would be around 1494 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Well, how are they going 1495 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: to change things? What are the changes they're gonna happen 1496 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: in the offseason, what's gonna happen with Tom Brady? What's 1497 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick gonna do? Is it time for him to 1498 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 1: make a change, Is it time for Robert Kraft to 1499 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 1: step in and make some fundamental changes? And you know 1500 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff. They once you lose a game that 1501 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to lose or do it, and particularly 1502 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: at this stage for the Patriots, they all of a 1503 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: sudden people rush in to say, Okay, now they've got 1504 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: to do something completely different. I would venture to say 1505 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: that even if the Bills do go in there and 1506 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: lump them up. They're gonna get up and go to 1507 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: work the next week and get ready for the week 1508 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: seventeen match against the Dolphins, and and they're gonna rumb 1509 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: along like nothing's going on the better Again, they got 1510 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 1: to protect that number two seating right if they want 1511 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: to miss. And that's the thing too. And I said 1512 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: that the little tinfoil hat that I put on once 1513 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: in a while, where they may, you know, they may not, 1514 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, do they may do some things differently in 1515 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: this game, thinking they may play the Bills in the 1516 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 1: playoffs at some point, again knowing that full well they 1517 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 1: can maybe beat the Miami Dolphins in Foxborough when the 1518 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 1: Dolphins come in there. Uh, they can't afford to drop 1519 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: any games because they're in a They got one or 1520 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,599 Speaker 1: half a game lead on the Chiefs. If the Chiefs 1521 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 1: win and the Patriots lose, the Patriots don't get a 1522 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: buy And I think, like, like Kyle Branch just told 1523 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 1: us that that's not part of their DNA. They need 1524 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: a buye week late in the season. I'm told the 1525 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: Patriots are favored by six six and a half points 1526 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: on Saturday's game, and whoever wins the margin will probably 1527 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 1: be somewhere around that. Think it gonna be a one 1528 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: score game. I would think, all right, we got want 1529 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: to hear from you about Saturday's game and what's the 1530 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 1: best thing that could happen as a result of a 1531 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo possible Buffalo victory in Foxborough. Send it a tweet. 1532 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: We can read it on the tweet sheet. You can 1533 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 1: vote on our Twitter poll at One Bills Live, or 1534 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: you can give us a call. Full line's open eight 1535 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: O three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five 1536 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. We're coming back with more. One 1537 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: Does Live presented by Kalada Health Live from the Seneca 1538 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close. Time down 1539 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 1: for Milestones, presented by Reichs Jewelers, the official jeweler of 1540 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. With the win over the Steelers in 1541 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Week fifteen, the Bills clinched the playoff berth for the 1542 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: second time in three years, and it's the earliest in 1543 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 1: the season Buffalo has secured the playoff spot since nineteen 1544 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: ninety one, when the Bills clinched to the Vision title. 1545 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Week fourteen. I went against the Jets. There you go 1546 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: that's a milestone seat. There you go. You mentioned it. 1547 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: You're right. It's um uncharted waters for us and for 1548 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Bills fans to have a playoff of birth in your 1549 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: back pocket. It's early, right, with two games left to play, 1550 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't it's it's a great feeling. It just feels weird. 1551 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: It's really good, and it get puts the playoffs out there, 1552 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: except and it's kind of like we were sitting there, 1553 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: like for the Sunday night game in Pittsburgh. It's like, man, 1554 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: it's taking forever. You get here, man, Yeah, Like we're 1555 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. We were like, wow, let's play, man, it's 1556 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna can't wait, right, So you get there and again, 1557 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and then you got to get up on Sunday morning. 1558 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: You think, okay, it's not a one o'clock game. You 1559 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 1: gotta wait through like sixteen hours of football coverage to 1560 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,759 Speaker 1: get to the game and then have that thing kickoff. 1561 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what now the playoffs are, except 1562 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: that you know, you know, we get a little respite 1563 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 1: in between, right, you're kind ready for the playoffs, but 1564 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: we don't even know who we're playing yet, so it's 1565 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: kind of hard to get your mind around it. You know. Yeah, 1566 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: there was a point Sunday night in the radio boot 1567 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Hindesfield had to be about seven fifteen, seven thirty, 1568 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 1: so forty five minutes or an. Now I'm just standing 1569 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: there and I'm basically I'm screaming, almost at the top 1570 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 1: of my lungs. Come on, come on, let's go. I'm 1571 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: ready for this game. That's the way I felt Sunday 1572 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 1: night and all day Sunday, you know, waiting for the game. 1573 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad it game when it did and 1574 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: it turned out well. But they hate that. I hate 1575 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: waiting like that. Yeah, I mean it's it's hard in 1576 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,560 Speaker 1: this game. This game will be a little bit like 1577 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that four thirty on a Saturday, A little bit, yeah, 1578 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: you know. And listen, it's gonna be dark. Oh yeah, well, 1579 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Saturday's shortest day the year. Man. Yes, it's gonna get 1580 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: dark the winter solstice exactly. Yes, so you're gonna be 1581 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: sitting there. I remember this too, my thoughts about playing 1582 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: in New England when I was a player. You'd go 1583 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 1: in there game one o'clock on Sunday. You come out 1584 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,720 Speaker 1: of the locker room after the game, it's six five 1585 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: thirty five. It's like five, it's like five. It's dark. 1586 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: You never finished it. And the lights were on at 1587 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the end of the game too. Remember, right, it was 1588 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 1: all Sullivan Stadium. Oh my gosh, what an atrocity that place. 1589 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,680 Speaker 1: It was, Oh my god, it was horrible. It was 1590 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: It was a It was a block of granite painted green, 1591 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: and the stands were bleachers. It wasn't even it wasn't 1592 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: even an outdoor rock concert worthy. Right. You could just 1593 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: rather sit on a grassy knoll than that. Those stadiums. 1594 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Oh my guy, it was horrible. And the concourses were 1595 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: Oh I think you were there. Do you remember this? 1596 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I always think about this trip to uh. I mean, 1597 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: we've been to Boston to Foxborough so many times and 1598 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: the Bill's team buses, four or five team buses, get 1599 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: a police escort after the game to the airport and 1600 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: we're in Foxborough going to I think it's t F. 1601 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,599 Speaker 1: Green Airport in Providence, remember this, flying down US one 1602 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: all and we got an escort from the Massachusetts State Police. 1603 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 1: You cross over into Rhode Island. Massachusetts States Police were 1604 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: done with us, so they put off into the State 1605 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Police headquarters. Three two or three State trooper cars and 1606 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: like idiots. All the bus drivers pulled into the State 1607 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 1: Police headquarters as well and sat there. What are we 1608 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 1: doing now? I was like, come on, man, we're going 1609 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,600 Speaker 1: to the airports, right, I'll never forget. Yeah, there's a 1610 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: bunch of things that happen. I gott do you remember 1611 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,000 Speaker 1: the time when we left John Butler and Marv yes St. Louis, 1612 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Yes, my guy. The bus drivers, nobody wanted 1613 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 1: to be the guy who had to admit that. He's 1614 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,680 Speaker 1: like going, yeah, we're all full. Let's go. Yeah, you know, 1615 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: give the finger twirl up above your head, like the 1616 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: squirly things like let's go, you know, like the big 1617 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 1: the big you know wagon train guy wagons hold, let's go. 1618 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 1: And Marv Levy and the general manager John Butler, two 1619 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 1: most important people in the right. They come walking out. 1620 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's gone, are gone. They caught it. They yeah, they 1621 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: had a cop there that well, they pulled the police. 1622 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 1: Remember we're on the interstate, had to do the airport 1623 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 1: and stay pulled over. They pulled over the buses. Marvin Marvin, 1624 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:05,120 Speaker 1: John Gottah hijinks uh, the Bills and the New England 1625 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Patriots Sunday, and we're asking you today what would be 1626 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 1: the best possible thing that would happen if the Bill 1627 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: should win that game? Give us a call eight three 1628 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight by fifty two 1629 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 1: five fifty. I'm a line Kim from Niagara Falls. Hello, Kim, 1630 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 1: go ahead, and you're on the air with us. Hi, 1631 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 1: how are you okay and good? The main reason we 1632 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: should want to beat the Patriots anytime, for any reason 1633 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: is because if you're a Bill fan, you hate them 1634 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 1: because we have they helped us, you know, show our 1635 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: en aptitude throughout the league. In the two thousand we 1636 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: were a brick in their yellow brick road to the 1637 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 1: super Bowl every year. Yeah right, yeah, I mean, how 1638 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,640 Speaker 1: long does it take to turn a franchise around? For 1639 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 1: some three years five years, we've had eighteen years. We 1640 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 1: could have done it three times over by now. Yeah, 1641 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that's right. And I wanted to beat them at their peak, 1642 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 1: not on the downhill trajectory. So everybody can say, oh, 1643 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,599 Speaker 1: the Bills only be the Patriots because they suck, you know, Well, 1644 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 1: you take that win though, right now, You take the win, 1645 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: start beating them consistently. That's what I want all right, Yeah, 1646 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 1: that's true, I think as everybody wants. But you're you're right, Kim, 1647 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: it's been That's why this is such a big deal. 1648 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 1: And it hasn't even been an opportunity for the Bills 1649 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 1: to stay in the division race this late into the season, 1650 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: let alone clinch a playoff spot and going to New 1651 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: England with a chance to knock him off. It just 1652 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: has never happened. And a couple of decades. We've talked 1653 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: a lot on this show over the year, Steve about 1654 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,479 Speaker 1: why the Patriots so dominant? Is it Brady? Is it 1655 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 1: battle check? Yeah, it's all of that. But you know 1656 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: what is uncomfortable to discuss, and it's part of their 1657 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: record of domination. And Kim got to it right there, 1658 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: the ineptitude of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins over the span, right, 1659 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 1: three franchises that have been unable to mount an effective 1660 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: challenge against the Patriots for twenty years, close to twenty years. 1661 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Here they had ten straight division titles Miami one, I 1662 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 1: think that one year, and the Patriots have a streak 1663 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: of division titles before that, right, We never talked about that, 1664 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,680 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's ugly history for the Bills, as 1665 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 1: it is for the Dolphins and the Jets, that it 1666 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,560 Speaker 1: just doesn't happen in the NFL that one team is 1667 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: dominant for that long. Now here's where you are. You 1668 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 1: probably feel compelled to insert your the cheat narrative, cheating 1669 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 1: or not. And I'm not condoning cheating. But the Bills, 1670 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Jets and their inability to mount 1671 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 1: a challenge have a lot to do with New England's 1672 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: two decades of dominance here. Yeah, it does, and you 1673 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: have to take on you have to acknowledge it. It's 1674 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,679 Speaker 1: because it's true. The neither none of those three teams 1675 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 1: have been consistently good. Certainly they've had bounces around where 1676 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: the Rex Ryan era in New York, he beat him 1677 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,680 Speaker 1: a couple of times in the playoffor once in the 1678 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 1: playoffs beat him a couple of times in the regular season. 1679 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 1: Nobody in Miami that to my mind, has been able 1680 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: to challenge them at any given point. They've struggled, even 1681 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,680 Speaker 1: when Jimmy Johnson was down there, so and and then 1682 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 1: here with Buffalo. You know, I've read three or four years, 1683 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,680 Speaker 1: five years, they're washing a new guy through. And you 1684 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 1: can go down the list it's not pretty and the 1685 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 1: base there's no doubt that the Patriots have benefited from it. 1686 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,679 Speaker 1: And that's what makes Option BE in our Twitter poll 1687 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 1: so appealing to me in too many, I mean our 1688 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 1: Twitter pole. What's the biggest reason you would root for 1689 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: a Bills win in Foxborough? First option we present is 1690 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 1: that keeps their chances for a division title alive Buffalo. 1691 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,600 Speaker 1: It's yes, that's big. That's where I would vote for. 1692 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: But Option B it would be a sign of a 1693 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,840 Speaker 1: changing of a guard into division. It's fifty one percent 1694 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: of you say that's the reason. Thirteen percent say Last 1695 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Chance would beat Tom Brady. And here's why the changing 1696 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 1: of the guard is important, I think because it's not 1697 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: like the Bills are a flash in the pan and 1698 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 1: one year, wonder they got this free agent they're gonna maybe, 1699 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, challenge of Patriots this year. No, Buffalo is 1700 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 1: structured and set up for long term success. Now tons 1701 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: of money in the camp next year, a lot of 1702 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: draft picks next year, stable leadership with Brandon Bean and 1703 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Buffalo changing of the guard wouldn't just be 1704 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: a one year phenomenon. I'm not say they go on 1705 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 1: a twenty year run. But they are set up better 1706 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: than the better than the Patriots, set up to play 1707 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 1: really well and win most of their divisional games over 1708 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 1: several years based on what the structure they have in place, 1709 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: and that kind of gets me excited a little bit. Yeah, 1710 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: certainly we can all feel and see that for the 1711 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,560 Speaker 1: first time in a long time. It's not just the 1712 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: people who are with the team or you know, are 1713 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: working for the team who can say, wow, this is 1714 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: this is different than it has been. Certainly there's been 1715 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 1: years where they've been better than other years, but there's 1716 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 1: never been a time when you've said, wow, the whole 1717 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 1: vibeer on the building, the plan, the offseason makes sense 1718 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: with this season and next season, and they're lined up 1719 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: and they got their ducks in a row, and they've 1720 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,600 Speaker 1: got some young players that they're developing, and this is 1721 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: a team that's getting better. And it just seems so 1722 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: many different things have happened to this club that are positives, 1723 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: even taking steps back for backwards and staying in you know, 1724 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 1: staying inside the lines, showing some discipline and free agency, 1725 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So many things have come together 1726 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 1: and now for the first time, all those things are 1727 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,840 Speaker 1: in place at once, and they're winning games. It's not 1728 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,560 Speaker 1: just like will you just wait, you know, we're just 1729 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna win game, and then all of a sudden, 1730 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: will they blew? They blew a ton of cat money 1731 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: on this one guy because they felt like they had to, 1732 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 1: and then they drafted this kind of traded three draft 1733 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 1: picks to get this guy. You know, there's all these 1734 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,639 Speaker 1: things happening. Well, I don't know, you know, um, everything 1735 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: seems to be in place and it's and now they're 1736 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: winning games as well, and that feels different with this, 1737 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 1: with this in organization. So it does feel like there's 1738 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 1: a sustainability aspect to this whole scenario. Let's go to 1739 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Mike and Lakeview, New York. Come on, Mike wilcome me 1740 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 1: around the air with us. Welcome to the show. How 1741 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 1: are you going doing? I got ya speaker phones out? Okay, 1742 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 1: that's okay, go ahead, speak up. Already there's been a 1743 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of talk. You know, how do we play this 1744 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: game against the Patriots and then the Jets game and whatnot? 1745 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,120 Speaker 1: Remember the scene and on the waterfront all right, yeah, 1746 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 1: what scene? I could have a contender. Yeah, you gotta 1747 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: look at it from the Patriots side, they obviously don't 1748 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 1: want to lose. How can anybody even dream of like 1749 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of rolling over and kind of like playing not 1750 01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: to get hurt, you know, all that type of thing. 1751 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 1: Who's dreaming that? You mean the Bills the Patriots? Who 1752 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I think we're both thinking the same way. I think 1753 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 1: you guys should have did some research as to while 1754 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots feel like they're going to play this game, 1755 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,679 Speaker 1: they might rest a lot of people in this game, 1756 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: no one they can go down and you know, pop 1757 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: up the floor of Miami. Well, here's the thing, and 1758 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: here's the problem with that, Mike, that the Patriots don't 1759 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,320 Speaker 1: want to lose this game. This game means something to 1760 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: them because if they lose it, they go from having 1761 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: a buy in the first round of the playoffs to 1762 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,799 Speaker 1: not having a buy in the first round of the playbots. 1763 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 1: That's that's my exact point. So we should be playing 1764 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: them as hard as we possibly could. What makes you 1765 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 1: think they wouldn't, Well, people are talking harder to spend talk. 1766 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: Earlier on you were saying, you know, we're in the playoffs. 1767 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: Everything else is gravy. That's I don't see it that way. Yeah, 1768 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 1: I get you. We're Yeah, here's what they meant by gravy. 1769 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 1: They have the playoff spot in place. Everything they add 1770 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,519 Speaker 1: to it now is on top of that a potential 1771 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 1: division title that's huge. All the issues in our Twitter poll. 1772 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Maybe the last time they faced Tom Brady that would 1773 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: be big. Um. Maybe you know, a changing of the 1774 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: guard in the division that would be big as well. 1775 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: That's what I meant by gravy, not like they don't 1776 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: need this, they don't want this, they get easy. Not 1777 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, there's no there's no hint when we're 1778 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 1: talking about that stuff. There's no hint of the bills 1779 01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 1: being satisfied with what they've done already. Not at all. No, 1780 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, I get your point, but that's not the 1781 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 1: tone of what we were talking about. But okay, Tony 1782 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 1: and north Tonawanda, Hello, Tony, go ahead, you're on the air. Hi, 1783 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my calf. Before I tell you why 1784 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: I think it's important for New England to win, I 1785 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,519 Speaker 1: just want to mention how far I go back to 1786 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 1: lou Saban and I got believe it or not, when 1787 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,640 Speaker 1: they opened up the stadium it was I think HSBC 1788 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 1: Arena and they gave us coins for the very first game. 1789 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 1: It was rich Stadium nineteen seventy three, right, yeah, yes, yeah, 1790 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,760 Speaker 1: I was here for that game. Were you there? Yes? 1791 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, yeah, and they gave did you did 1792 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 1: you get your coins? I still I have that coin, Yes, 1793 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 1: so do I. Yeah. I got two of them, one 1794 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,640 Speaker 1: for myself and one for my wife. But anyway, what 1795 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting at, you know Bill's fans know this. How 1796 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: did that game begin? Do you recall? I'm sorry, I Washington? 1797 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 1: It was preseason Washington return man Herb Malki ran one 1798 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 1: hundred three yards back with the first ever kickoff in 1799 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the stadium, and not your Parker back for a touchdown. 1800 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,839 Speaker 1: Can you believe that that's howiday you opened the stadium? 1801 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Come on, man, I'm sorry to bring that up. That's 1802 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 1: not how you open the stadium. Go ahead, I'm sorry 1803 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 1: I interrupted you. Go ahead, Tony. What I'm getting at 1804 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,680 Speaker 1: is we went through a period of time that I 1805 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: can remember, and I had season tickets and everything where 1806 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: Miami was doing the same thing that New England has done. 1807 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 1: I also remember, and it wasn't even a playoff game. 1808 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 1: There wasn't anything where we finally beat them and we 1809 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,920 Speaker 1: tore the goal post down. Yeah, nineteen eighty. Oh. Here's 1810 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,040 Speaker 1: what I'm leading up to. If you can kind to 1811 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 1: get the parallel, because I think this game with New 1812 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: England is very important. I think it's almost the difference. 1813 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: And here's why. There's three steps that Buffalo had to 1814 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,400 Speaker 1: do this year. If you listen to mister McDermott how 1815 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: we talked. First step was to get in the playoffs. Okay. 1816 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 1: The second step is believe it or not be in 1817 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 1: New England so you can be number one. And a 1818 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 1: third step obviously is the super Bowl. But we've achieved it, 1819 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: not of the first step. This next step I think 1820 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,759 Speaker 1: is going to be very important because if we don't 1821 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: beat them, I think psychologically it's going to have a 1822 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: big effect on the playoffs. I think this game is 1823 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 1: so huge, you know, as far as their mindset and 1824 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 1: their mental toughness, that if they get this win, they 1825 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 1: will feel like, excuse me, I apologize, have accomplished three 1826 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 1: quarters of their goal and they're not you know, and 1827 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 1: they're not gonna They're just gonna be so much better 1828 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,360 Speaker 1: psychologically and get to see. Let me thank you for 1829 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: calling Tony. Let me tap into your playing experience, Eve. 1830 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:08,240 Speaker 1: You played very successful, highly accomplished AFC championship teams, some 1831 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: of whom clinched early in the earlier in the season. 1832 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 1: What kept you guys going down the stretch knowing that 1833 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs are out there, knowing that they're I mean, 1834 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,759 Speaker 1: what kept you guys? Because you had a great record 1835 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: of success. It wasn't like you clinched the division and 1836 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,560 Speaker 1: then went to bed. You know, you kept after it. 1837 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: What kept that going back then? You kept playing hard 1838 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 1: and it was about competing. You know, you wanted to compete. 1839 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,599 Speaker 1: Now certainly you left you prepared like you're gonna play. 1840 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 1: You're prepared to like it. The game was important. You 1841 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 1: prepared normally as you would. It was, you know, kind 1842 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: of part of the process back then as well. And 1843 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 1: you let the coaches decide. Listen, if if we're gonna 1844 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 1: win this and this game doesn't meanything, we're gonna give 1845 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 1: our guys some time to play. But if we're not 1846 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 1: gonna risk you know, the coaches would sit guys down. 1847 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 1: You know, they would decide, like, listen, this isn't gonna 1848 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 1: help us any of you're sitting down now. See this 1849 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 1: game isn't quite to that point yet. No, I know 1850 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,800 Speaker 1: that this game isn't quite to that. This game has 1851 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 1: some some meat on it for both of these clubs. 1852 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,840 Speaker 1: Obviously for the Bills and also for the Patriots. Um, 1853 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: if they have to go on, if they go to 1854 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: the wild card uh or yeah, if they go to 1855 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 1: the wild card, or if they don't keep pace with 1856 01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, they're gonna have to play in 1857 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 1: the wild card ground. Now, certainly the game will be 1858 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,439 Speaker 1: at home, as if they win the division, but they've 1859 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play another game, So a week 1860 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,519 Speaker 1: off would really help them, particularly a forty two year 1861 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 1: old quarterback kind of guy. You know. So seriously, you know, 1862 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 1: the time offics in to turn a vacation at that 1863 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: point of the season really does wonders flee for psych 1864 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, this game, this game has no to me. 1865 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,640 Speaker 1: It has no smell and we we laughed about it 1866 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: when we talked about it earlier. This game has no 1867 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 1: smell of a game that need either team doesn't need back. Yeah, 1868 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,639 Speaker 1: and they both should play like it. And by the way, 1869 01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm confident that both will. I think it's gonna be 1870 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 1: another great game. The Chiefs need it, chief the Patriots 1871 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: needed as badly as the Bills do because they've got 1872 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to get a bye. Yeah, you put an 1873 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 1: extra game an entire it's thirty percent further to the 1874 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl when you get in the playoffs. Right, it's 1875 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 1: an extra game you gotta get by against a really 1876 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: good team. So it's yeah, they need that by badly. 1877 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,759 Speaker 1: Coming back with more One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida 1878 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Hell from the Seneca Studio on Orchard Park. This is 1879 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. We're just powering through this show this Tuesday. 1880 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: The Bills got through a practice today. They moved things 1881 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 1: up a day this week because they play on Saturday. 1882 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: Practice tomorrow and then practice on Thursday. They leave Friday 1883 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 1: for the game on Saturday. Simple, Right, it's not that 1884 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: big a thing I'll do. No, it'll be It's okay 1885 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 1: once you get deep into the week. Yeah, it's still 1886 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: confusing that it's it's because the routine is so set. 1887 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: It'll feel confusing to him because it'll feel like a 1888 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: Thursday when it's only Wednesday. You know, it'll feel like 1889 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,840 Speaker 1: a Friday or Saturday when it's only Friday. And that'll 1890 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 1: still but that's it. It's fine, big payoff Sunday off 1891 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 1: for the players, for the coaches, broadcasters, big payoff. Love 1892 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that having a Sunday off this time of year. That's 1893 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna be great. Yeah yeah, wait yeah man. After the 1894 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,720 Speaker 1: calls Rich and Buffalo, Rich, go ahead, you're on the 1895 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,840 Speaker 1: air of this. First thing I want to say is 1896 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 1: you are outstanding. Is the voice of the build. Thank you, Rich, 1897 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. I called a few weeks ago and 1898 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,640 Speaker 1: I had to argue with Steve about you going to 1899 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,679 Speaker 1: an up temple offense. And you know what, they finally 1900 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,400 Speaker 1: did it and it worked. They get up to watching 1901 01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers game. I simply I cannot understand why they 1902 01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: abandon this. They took the handcuffs off Josh in the 1903 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,640 Speaker 1: third quarter and he dwell down the field for the 1904 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 1: winning touchdown. Our defense is the best in the NFL, 1905 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 1: so don't worry about the Bills going springing out and 1906 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:07,439 Speaker 1: putting them back on the field is double tight ends, 1907 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 1: low tempo, bringing the fullback and holding up off. I 1908 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 1: hear you, Richard. I'm got Steven on this too. I 1909 01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,560 Speaker 1: do think that, and I talked to Dable about it 1910 01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,800 Speaker 1: Sunday night. I think that was in deference to those 1911 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 1: two outside linebackers, but Dupree and t J. Watt, and 1912 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,800 Speaker 1: they did not want to create issues in protection. They 1913 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't think they felt like they could go eleven personnel. 1914 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 1: And it's not, let's face it, it wasn't a real 1915 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,000 Speaker 1: fast paced, up tempo know how to attack they had 1916 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 1: even when they were rolling through those four games with it. 1917 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: But I just think they felt like they needed to adjust. 1918 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,719 Speaker 1: You know, I talked to members of the coaching staff 1919 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 1: last week. I said, are you good with us eleven 1920 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,639 Speaker 1: personnel this week? And they said, well, maybe not. We'll 1921 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 1: find out, right. I mean that that would have been 1922 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,479 Speaker 1: a lot for them to block those two without extra 1923 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,559 Speaker 1: tight ends. I mean, DeMarco played thirty percent of the snaps. 1924 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 1: I have it here. Um Lee Smith played half of 1925 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 1: the snaps the other day. It was kind of a 1926 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 1: totally different offensive approach and they won. But go ahead, 1927 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: what do you think I'm probably out? I go ahead, Rich, 1928 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for interrupting. Go ahead. I understand what you're saying. Murphy, 1929 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't. I played some quarterback in the 1930 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 1: past and blah blah blah. It really doesn't matter. But 1931 01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: you know what, you can't be afraid to be afraid. Okay, 1932 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 1: get you drafted this kid. You gotta let him play 1933 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,920 Speaker 1: in his comfort zone. You know, John, she's the future 1934 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,640 Speaker 1: of the Bills. You know his comfort zone is, you know, 1935 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,639 Speaker 1: play some hurry up swinging around. And I said before, 1936 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,479 Speaker 1: Murphy's a schoolyard quarterback. He's a guy that goes in 1937 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,280 Speaker 1: the schoolyard. And they went, Steve knows all about that. 1938 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear it. Steve knows. I would just in 1939 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,200 Speaker 1: one quick response, rich Um, his comfort zone does not 1940 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 1: include having t. J. Watt or Budder pre sitting on 1941 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 1: top of him. Either. That's not a comfort zone. Go ahead, Murphy, 1942 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:57,439 Speaker 1: you can't enter a game and you know be afraid. 1943 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 1: It's not being afraid, it's being smart. You know what 1944 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,640 Speaker 1: A well we can agree to disagree, Okay, rich I 1945 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 1: think I'm a little I'm gonna probably a different spot 1946 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,599 Speaker 1: than you. I'm maybe a little ahead of the curve 1947 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 1: on this. Maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe you're right and 1948 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Um. I tend to I tend I tend 1949 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,800 Speaker 1: to believe that the coaching staff who studies the film 1950 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 1: knows their players and gives them the best chance to 1951 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 1: win by putting the fullback on the field with two 1952 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,680 Speaker 1: tight ends against the best rushing team in the league. Um, 1953 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,840 Speaker 1: you can say what you want about tempo and stuff, 1954 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 1: and and it's different than it was when I played. 1955 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,040 Speaker 1: And I know you remember. I can tell by the 1956 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,880 Speaker 1: tone of your voice. You remember back when I played 1957 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 1: in Jim and Bruce and Thurman and Andre and all 1958 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 1: those guys running up and down the field, going fast paced. 1959 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,240 Speaker 1: It's a different league. Now. You can do some of that. 1960 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,680 Speaker 1: You can you can try and all those techniques, and 1961 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: it's in the toolbox. But the moment you start doing 1962 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,559 Speaker 1: that all the time is the moment you start losing games. 1963 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 1: And I know Josh is the future of the franchise 1964 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and he's going to continue to be the future of 1965 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,720 Speaker 1: the franchise. But I got news for you. The futures now, 1966 01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 1: and you got a stellar defense. You're trying to win 1967 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,080 Speaker 1: games now. You're not trying to develop Josh right now. 1968 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,400 Speaker 1: He's developing, no question. But the job one for everybody 1969 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,360 Speaker 1: is to win games. And if that means Josh has 1970 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 1: a fullback and two tight ends on the field, that's 1971 01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,680 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do to win the game. So I'm 1972 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 1: not I trust that Brian day Bole and Sean McDermott 1973 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: are trying to win the Pittsburgh Steeler game, and that's 1974 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:25,840 Speaker 1: why they had those guys on the field. It's not 1975 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,240 Speaker 1: about it's not about making Josh look great or having 1976 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: a great offense or great. They're trying to win the 1977 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 1: game against that particular defense on that night this season. Rich, 1978 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: thanks you a call, thanks you for your nice comments, 1979 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 1: and I would disagree with you as well for everything 1980 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 1: Steve said. And look, the Bills allowed one sack against 1981 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the top sack production team in the NFL. They gave 1982 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,559 Speaker 1: up one sack in that game. And if I'm Brian 1983 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 1: dab Bole or Sean McDermot, I say we gave up 1984 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 1: one sack and look at the scoreboard. That's you take 1985 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,800 Speaker 1: something away that they've depended on. You take away their turnovers. 1986 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,160 Speaker 1: You know that's Devin Singletary, that's you know, you coughed 1987 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,439 Speaker 1: it up really with your rookie running back trying to 1988 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 1: do a little extra after really good runs. He got 1989 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,240 Speaker 1: the ball punched out a couple of times, or ripped 1990 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 1: out once and punched out another time. You took that 1991 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 1: you won that battle against a really good defense who's 1992 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: the entire team thrived on turnovers. You won that turnover 1993 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:21,920 Speaker 1: battle a lot of it by not throwing interceptions. They 1994 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,680 Speaker 1: still punched it out a bunch, but you got some 1995 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: of them back and he didn't do it as much 1996 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 1: as they did. So and plus you took away the 1997 01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,120 Speaker 1: sacks from they got one sack, we got four. You know, 1998 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: we won that battle. So you do that as much 1999 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 1: with your offense against their defense as you do our 2000 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: defense against their offense. It's you play it to the 2001 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 1: percentages and you think, listen, if they can beat us 2002 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 1: with Duck at quarterback and us win in the turnover 2003 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,479 Speaker 1: battle or not getting any turnovers and no sacks, we're 2004 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,280 Speaker 1: going to take those chances. And that's what they did. 2005 01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,600 Speaker 1: And certainly you can say, wow, why didn't they go 2006 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 1: no huddle? Hey they won, I get it. Thanks Rich. 2007 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 1: We got Dan Orlovsky standing by to join us from ESPN. 2008 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about that game and about Josh Allen. 2009 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 1: Come on back for that one. Bill's Live presented by 2010 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Collaida Health. I'm from the Seneca Studio Seneca Resorts in Casino. 2011 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 1: Nothing comes closet Tasper to the end, done bastiast time. Welcome. 2012 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,800 Speaker 1: Kis our number three, John Murphy Steve Tasker with One 2013 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,599 Speaker 1: Bill's Live from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park. We're 2014 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 1: presented by Collada Health and we got going. We got 2015 01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: going one more hour here today. The Bills are wrapped 2016 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,960 Speaker 1: up their practice. Their Tuesday work out today looked like 2017 01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 1: U we didn't watch much of if any of it, 2018 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: but it looked like kind of a light practice, no pads, 2019 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of T shirts. Right, that's right way to do 2020 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,960 Speaker 1: it this late in a year. Yeah, I probably I 2021 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:02,760 Speaker 1: might not have pulled a hamstring. I'm I'm pretty sure 2022 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,639 Speaker 1: I would have come up with some sort of injury 2023 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 1: had I been through it. Limped off of Hey, we're 2024 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk more about this game, about this Bills team 2025 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,840 Speaker 1: with our special guests. We love to have him as 2026 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,799 Speaker 1: one of our favorites. He's a football analysts for ESPN. 2027 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: Former NFL quarterback with Detroit, Houston, Indian Tampa Bay played 2028 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,920 Speaker 1: twelve years in the NFL. Happy to a former quarterback, 2029 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,400 Speaker 1: Dan Orlovski of ESPN on the line with us, Hello, Dan, 2030 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: thanks coming on. We appreciate it. Well, what's going on, guys? 2031 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 1: How are you good? We reach out to you because A, 2032 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,920 Speaker 1: we needed a guest for this hour, and B we 2033 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,559 Speaker 1: can know we can tell that you have. You've taken 2034 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,720 Speaker 1: note of what the Bills have done, particularly on offense. Uh. Look, 2035 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 1: they're in the playoffs now, Dan, and all is good 2036 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,639 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. But um, there are there are problems 2037 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,640 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo offense, right you see it, you and 2038 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:46,639 Speaker 1: and there are good things too. Talk about what you've 2039 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 1: seen from watching the Bills win in Pittsburgh the other night. Yeah, 2040 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you everything has to be in context. Um, 2041 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, I know the Pittsburgh Steelers aren't a team 2042 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 1: in totalent. Everyone's talked about a lot this year, but 2043 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:03,519 Speaker 1: their defense is really good. I don't know if if 2044 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: the Bills will see, you know, they'll see as good 2045 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,920 Speaker 1: of a defense this weekend. And the Ravens probably are 2046 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:13,600 Speaker 1: equal to Pittsburgh, maybe not as good, just because Pittsburgh's 2047 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 1: front is probably better. But Pittsburgh's defense is really good. 2048 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,400 Speaker 1: Don't forget this. They were ten days removed from dragging 2049 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 1: Dallas in Dallas and scoring a bunch of points. So 2050 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's probably the most under talked 2051 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,040 Speaker 1: about thing of this offense is the offensive one and 2052 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,680 Speaker 1: how well they've played and how constantly they in their 2053 01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 1: run game as you know, one is not given up 2054 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of negative plays and two three or the 2055 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,280 Speaker 1: second thing would be is obviously I think Cold Beasley's 2056 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,400 Speaker 1: probably you know, top three frames and signing in the 2057 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 1: NFL this offseason and how much impact he's had on 2058 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 1: this offense and how much of it is built through him. 2059 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: And then here's the thing. The Bills are going to 2060 01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 1: be in every game, and from this weekend on, they 2061 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,200 Speaker 1: will be in every game once they play this Saturday 2062 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,960 Speaker 1: and what whatever happens on sixteen seventeen, and then once 2063 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,360 Speaker 1: they get into the playoffs, they're gonna be in every game. 2064 01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: They will be in every fourth quarter because of their defense, 2065 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,560 Speaker 1: and the offense is good enough and Josh Allen is 2066 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 1: playing good enough where he makes two plays, they're gonna 2067 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,559 Speaker 1: win the ballgame like they're They're that type of team 2068 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,479 Speaker 1: that they'll be in it in the fourth quarter and 2069 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Josh's got a big enough arm or athletic enough to 2070 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,719 Speaker 1: make a play here or there, and all of a sudden, 2071 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,120 Speaker 1: the Bills can win a football game twenty one fourteen 2072 01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,280 Speaker 1: and go wow, you know, now onto the next round. Yeah. Yeah. 2073 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 1: And you said as well today that in your one 2074 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 1: of your tweets that you feel like the Bills are 2075 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 1: coached as well as anybody in the league. What leads 2076 01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,080 Speaker 1: you to those kind of generalizations, I know, you know 2077 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 1: you can say that any given week a team really 2078 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:40,960 Speaker 1: plays well for its coaches. What do you see in 2079 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,879 Speaker 1: this staff and this philosophy, this process here in Buffalo 2080 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,479 Speaker 1: that catches your eye. They don't beat themselves, right, that's 2081 01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,240 Speaker 1: a good sign. They don't beat themselves. They're not highly penalized. 2082 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,400 Speaker 1: But something happened in the Monday they were Monday night, 2083 01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 1: right or Sunday night football game that caught my eye 2084 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 1: and I just haven't put it on the internet yet. 2085 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's the fourth down Pittsburgh's offense, and Pittsburgh it's 2086 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:05,360 Speaker 1: before Duck Hodges throws that interception down the middle of 2087 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,920 Speaker 1: the field, so it's fourth down. They line up with 2088 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,840 Speaker 1: two tight ends and a slot receiver to one thought field. 2089 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,800 Speaker 1: Both tight ends are kind of like attached to the 2090 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: tackles and they have a slot to the field, and 2091 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo looks to be just in a normal defense, just 2092 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 1: like they were gonna play coverage or whatnot, and Sean 2093 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 1: McDermott calls timeout, and they come out of the timeout. 2094 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,280 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh lines up in the same exact formation. All of 2095 01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, Buffalo changes their call. Buffalo then shows a 2096 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,880 Speaker 1: blitz with two linebackers in the A gap and they 2097 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: blitz a guy off the slot. And you see before 2098 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 1: the snap, the quarterback for Pittsburgh, Duck Hodges, points out 2099 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 1: those two guys that say, hey, we're hot off those 2100 01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,679 Speaker 1: two guys, and all of a sudden, those two guys 2101 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,679 Speaker 1: are the one that blitz and they make him hot 2102 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: and they forced him to throw that ball kind of 2103 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,680 Speaker 1: early and down the middle because the nickel guy came 2104 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,920 Speaker 1: on block. And I was just thinking to myself, like, 2105 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,639 Speaker 1: really good coaching by Sean McDermott to in that moment 2106 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,920 Speaker 1: fourth down. Okay, I'm gonna call the time out. I 2107 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,240 Speaker 1: know what they're in. I saw them line up and 2108 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 1: they never changed their personnel group. I think they're going 2109 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 1: to line up in the same formation. I know how 2110 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 1: to attack their protection. Let's go after it. I just 2111 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,760 Speaker 1: thought that was really good coaching by Sean McDermott in 2112 01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: that moment to understand situational football attack to Pittsburgh Steelers 2113 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,439 Speaker 1: protection and then they had no chance to convert. You know, Dan, 2114 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. First hour of our 2115 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,439 Speaker 1: show today, a caller brought it up that sequence and 2116 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: said they're wasting timeouts on defense. They might have used 2117 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 1: those timeouts, and we kind of pointed out in my 2118 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: partner on Sundays, the color man on the broadcast, Eric Wood, says, 2119 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,200 Speaker 1: that's a McDermott move. I think he's been encouraged to 2120 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,640 Speaker 1: do this by the Bill's sports science department. But it's 2121 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,080 Speaker 1: almost like a basketball move, right. See how they line 2122 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,640 Speaker 1: up then take a time out and go back to 2123 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,040 Speaker 1: your huddle. Absolutely, what's the point of saving the time out? 2124 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,080 Speaker 1: The game is going to be won in that moment. 2125 01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,880 Speaker 1: You have the opportunity, Like this is why it's good coaching. 2126 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,720 Speaker 1: You got game plan right, You've scouted the other team, right, 2127 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,600 Speaker 1: you know their tendency. Okay, when they line up with 2128 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,920 Speaker 1: two tight ends into the slot, this is what is 2129 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,880 Speaker 1: going to likely be their play and this is likely 2130 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be their protection. So when they line up 2131 01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 1: in there, if you have the timeouts, use it and 2132 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,439 Speaker 1: go attack it. I look at it as a complete 2133 01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 1: opposite as the caller and all due respect, it is 2134 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 1: fantastic coaching because why would you know. Here's the thing, guys, 2135 01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,919 Speaker 1: and there's three types of coaches really and play callers coordinators. 2136 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,519 Speaker 1: In the NFL, there's there's coaches who wake up and 2137 01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,800 Speaker 1: really at college football too, there's coaches who wake up 2138 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 1: the day after the game and watch the tape and go, ah, 2139 01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 1: the team was doing this, we should have done that. 2140 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:35,920 Speaker 1: And then there's a coach who can do stuff like 2141 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,800 Speaker 1: Thatt at halftime, where they go in the halftime and 2142 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 1: then they make adjustments. And then there's really good coaches 2143 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,960 Speaker 1: who can do stuff at the blink of their fingers. 2144 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,160 Speaker 1: And it's just impressive to me that Sean McDermott in 2145 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 1: that moment called time out because it wasn't a pre 2146 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,800 Speaker 1: premeditated time out like that. They were lined up and 2147 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:53,840 Speaker 1: then he pops the time out, And to me, that 2148 01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 1: is a coach who's completely aware of what's going on 2149 01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: and going, Nope, I know exactly what they're gonna do. 2150 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this. And it was evident to me 2151 01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,560 Speaker 1: that that was a big difference in that play. And 2152 01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,360 Speaker 1: that's really the key, isn't it. When you get into 2153 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,760 Speaker 1: a team and for instance, we've all seen these high 2154 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,400 Speaker 1: flying offenses around the league, the Kansas City Chiefs, the 2155 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,280 Speaker 1: LA Rams from a year ago that even in New 2156 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and and he given Sunday. You get these 2157 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,400 Speaker 1: teams that can really score. But if you've got a 2158 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,040 Speaker 1: team that is a defensive minded team and you're leaning 2159 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,519 Speaker 1: on one of the best defenses in the league, you 2160 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,920 Speaker 1: really have to be have your antent eye up for 2161 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 1: those moments. Do you just describe the moment said, listen, 2162 01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 1: this game is gonna be one. In this moment, we 2163 01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,600 Speaker 1: got to get ready. That's hard to do in the 2164 01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,559 Speaker 1: heat of the moment, to know, hey, wait a minute 2165 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,720 Speaker 1: and call a time out. And I think that's where 2166 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: you really show how prepared you are and how nimble 2167 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 1: your coaching staff can be. Let's see the word that 2168 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: you used right there is absolutely key prepared, prepared for 2169 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 1: the moment, you know, Like so often we see more 2170 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,240 Speaker 1: talented football teams, and I think the Bills have a 2171 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,559 Speaker 1: lot of talent, but we're watching more talented football teams 2172 01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:02,479 Speaker 1: not handle moments, not be prepared for moments. And then again, 2173 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're gonna look back and their 2174 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:05,760 Speaker 1: coaches are gonna go up there and staying out there 2175 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,519 Speaker 1: at the press conference either after the game of the 2176 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,240 Speaker 1: next day and go, yeah, looking back on it, I 2177 01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,960 Speaker 1: think we could have executed better, or we could have 2178 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,679 Speaker 1: done this better. And I just think really good coaches, 2179 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,640 Speaker 1: to great coaches, to special coaches rarely say that. I 2180 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,120 Speaker 1: think they're always ready for situations. They're always prepared and 2181 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,160 Speaker 1: having a plan, and they never think about oh well 2182 01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,960 Speaker 1: if I do this, then this and potential regrets. They don't, 2183 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, like he wasn't coaching with the fear of 2184 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,920 Speaker 1: regret there. He was going, no, I know exactly what 2185 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,519 Speaker 1: they're gonna do. We're gonna go in the ball game 2186 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,839 Speaker 1: right here. Yeah. Dan Orloska are guests ESPN football analysts 2187 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,759 Speaker 1: spent twelve years playing quarterback in the NFL. There's another 2188 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,600 Speaker 1: play from the Staters game that we took note of. 2189 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,720 Speaker 1: You made a big point of breaking it down on 2190 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 1: Twitter the fourth quarter midway through the fourth quarter, fourteen 2191 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass to Tyler Croft. What did you see 2192 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,280 Speaker 1: there and what did you see that that was important? Well, 2193 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 1: I mean they first of all, they put Crofts by 2194 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,759 Speaker 1: himself and trips to the other side, which I always 2195 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,040 Speaker 1: like because that kind of you know, tells the quarterback information, 2196 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 1: man zone and all that stuff. And just a little 2197 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:11,040 Speaker 1: detail that they took Singletary as the tailback and they 2198 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't want him to be part of their protection. They 2199 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,560 Speaker 1: wanted him to be part of the pass route for 2200 01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,880 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One, you know, t J. Watt 2201 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,920 Speaker 1: then doesn't become a part of a chip or he 2202 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:20,720 Speaker 1: doesn't he didn't doesn't get the chance to knock the 2203 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,719 Speaker 1: tailback off. And then two you get that that fifth 2204 01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:28,599 Speaker 1: past pass receiving option. He becomes part of the play 2205 01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 1: sooner when you free release him. But to free release 2206 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 1: him and actually get him to be part of the 2207 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: play sooner, they adjusted his alignment and they put him 2208 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,560 Speaker 1: on the outside leg of the tackle. Putting him on 2209 01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,000 Speaker 1: the outside of the leg of the tackle made that 2210 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,800 Speaker 1: his ability to get out faster, and then that his 2211 01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,120 Speaker 1: ability to get out faster forced the corner to see 2212 01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,400 Speaker 1: him quicker. And this is reactionary stuff, guys, Like, remember 2213 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,920 Speaker 1: football is so reactionary. This is happening pop up in 2214 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,599 Speaker 1: the corner. He got to the line of scrimmage before 2215 01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:59,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen ever got to the top of his drops, 2216 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the corners like, wait, I 2217 01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 1: got somebody right here. It's as third and nine or 2218 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 1: something like that. If he catches as he can go 2219 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you see Croft widen. And 2220 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:14,719 Speaker 1: so often young players will cover themselves up by running 2221 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 1: bad routes, and you don't run bad routes if you're 2222 01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,920 Speaker 1: coached well. And you see him widen on the safety. 2223 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,719 Speaker 1: The safety's inside Croft and he wants to go outside, 2224 01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 1: and so don't go don't go inside to go outside, 2225 01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,400 Speaker 1: just keep going outside. Make sure that you'll just run 2226 01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,360 Speaker 1: away from the bad guy who's the safety. And Jos 2227 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,200 Speaker 1: did a really good job holding his eyes. But all 2228 01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,040 Speaker 1: those little details, like, to me, that's the sign of 2229 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 1: a well coached football team. That's the sign of a 2230 01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,120 Speaker 1: team that's doing the little things and critical moments that 2231 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: are playing well. Sure do you want to score forty game, 2232 01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 1: of course, but when they needed it, they got it. 2233 01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of cool about that play too, Dan. 2234 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it, but yesterday Bill's 2235 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,519 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Brian Dable revealed that the first day of 2236 01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 1: OTA's last spring, Tyler Croft ran that play early in 2237 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,760 Speaker 1: practice and got hurt on it. He was out for 2238 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,080 Speaker 1: several months as he reinjured his foot that very same play. 2239 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,559 Speaker 1: Brian Dable said, I just thought it was in the side. Yeah, 2240 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,479 Speaker 1: good for him, and there is in December. It's going 2241 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,120 Speaker 1: to go ahead touchdown on it. Yeah, National TV too. 2242 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 1: That's really cool. What do you think some of the 2243 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,639 Speaker 1: things your thoughts about Josh Allen? We've this whole season 2244 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,639 Speaker 1: and on the run up to it, and you mentioned 2245 01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,200 Speaker 1: he made a nice throw on that play, and and uh, 2246 01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,439 Speaker 1: we've heard some some other people, you know, about his 2247 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,320 Speaker 1: footwork and about his completion percentage, which continues to be 2248 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 1: an up and down kind of affair. What do you 2249 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 1: see in his development? Um, they're winning games with a 2250 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,680 Speaker 1: defense and an offense that just makes enough place. So 2251 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:38,559 Speaker 1: what do you think about Josh Allen, how far he's 2252 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: come this season, where he has to go and maybe 2253 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,920 Speaker 1: what his next step is. Yeah, I mean, I think 2254 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,559 Speaker 1: that people need to understand that completion percentages are often 2255 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,320 Speaker 1: tied to schemes. You know, Like, I don't think Josh 2256 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,439 Speaker 1: Allen's ever going to be a seventy percent completion percentage quarterback. 2257 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's Like he's a six foot six 2258 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pound guy. You're not going to 2259 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,200 Speaker 1: dink and dunk him often, right, unless like that your 2260 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,800 Speaker 1: only resort on offense. So I think that we make 2261 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,519 Speaker 1: a little bit too big of a deal with that 2262 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,080 Speaker 1: that he missed some throws. Yes, of course, blah blah 2263 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But I think, you know, I think 2264 01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:14,240 Speaker 1: that's what's been nice to watch with Josh's maturation throughout 2265 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:19,160 Speaker 1: this year is when they need him to play good football, 2266 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,000 Speaker 1: he does. And I don't think you can dispute that. Like, Listen, 2267 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 1: I've got friends who text me all the time who 2268 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 1: have the stands on Josh Allen and they don't waiver 2269 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,760 Speaker 1: from it, and they'll send me some stuff and I'll 2270 01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,920 Speaker 1: be like, I think he's playing good football, Like is 2271 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,920 Speaker 1: he playing football that you know you may want him 2272 01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,640 Speaker 1: to because you didn't like him coming out of the 2273 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,479 Speaker 1: draft and now you won't admit that he's playing good football. 2274 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but like I'm sitting here, going, 2275 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,759 Speaker 1: this guy's playing good football, and he's playing good football 2276 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,760 Speaker 1: in the moments that they need him too. Here's the 2277 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,680 Speaker 1: thing for me with Josh that will take him from 2278 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 1: playing good football and then go blah. Josh Allen is 2279 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,040 Speaker 1: becoming the difference maker for the strong arm that he has. 2280 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,439 Speaker 1: The consistency of the deep ball hasn't shown up yet, 2281 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,160 Speaker 1: and so I mean, you get four to six shots 2282 01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,720 Speaker 1: a game to push the ball downfield, like push the 2283 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 1: ball downfield, and usually if you hit those, you have 2284 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,479 Speaker 1: a good chance to win it. If you don't, you'll struggle. 2285 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,560 Speaker 1: If Josh will get hot with those and hit some 2286 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,120 Speaker 1: of those, I think the Bills could be really difficult 2287 01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, not just make it like I think 2288 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,599 Speaker 1: the Bills. I think that's what will be the determining 2289 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,880 Speaker 1: factor in their game on Saturday against the Patriots, because 2290 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to give Josh the can to 2291 01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 1: throw the football downfield, and if he hits them and 2292 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 1: chooses to just throw them rather than try to aim them, 2293 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,360 Speaker 1: I think he aims the ball downfield sometimes, that will 2294 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 1: be a big determining factor in that game. And then 2295 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 1: also in the playoffs. Then the Patriots held Alan and 2296 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:45,760 Speaker 1: the Bills to just ten points when they played three 2297 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,360 Speaker 1: months ago, Bills need much better than that. Is the 2298 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,240 Speaker 1: Patriots defense still that formidable, that will be hard to 2299 01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,760 Speaker 1: get more than ten points. Yeah, they're still that good. 2300 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: I think that's what's not getting talked about enough with 2301 01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,439 Speaker 1: the page defense and actually, what's what happened in the 2302 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati game. Cincinnati's offensive line change the line of screamage 2303 01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot. I think that the Bills can line up 2304 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,519 Speaker 1: and run the football, excuse me, in between the tackles 2305 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,439 Speaker 1: on the Patriots. Just line up and play bully football 2306 01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:18,960 Speaker 1: and go we're We're not gonna let you. Because what 2307 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:22,080 Speaker 1: happened was in the first game, the Bills got into 2308 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,559 Speaker 1: too many bad situations where it became a passing game 2309 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,400 Speaker 1: and they're just not equipped right now to handle New 2310 01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 1: England's blitz packages. There's just not They're not going to 2311 01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 1: see them well enough. They don't have good enough plans 2312 01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,080 Speaker 1: or players aren't good enough. On the outside of whoop 2313 01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 1: book very I don't know if anybody is in the NFL. 2314 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,840 Speaker 1: So I think that they got to line up and 2315 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 1: play bully football. Scoring ten points won't be enough, but 2316 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,200 Speaker 1: don't don't forget. I think they had three or four 2317 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,639 Speaker 1: turnovers that game as bow so you know in New England, 2318 01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,200 Speaker 1: and the scored sixteen UM. I think the Bills have 2319 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,720 Speaker 1: given up what twenty more than twenty one once this 2320 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:57,720 Speaker 1: year defensively to the Eagles. I think so like it. 2321 01:49:57,920 --> 01:49:59,880 Speaker 1: It's not like New England's gonna get hot this week 2322 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,200 Speaker 1: doing He's got their off issues on offense as well. 2323 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,240 Speaker 1: So you know, I think the Bills, if they can 2324 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 1: go score seventeen twenty points, they'll absolutely have a good 2325 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,519 Speaker 1: chance to win, a really good chance to win that game. 2326 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to the will be not can 2327 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:16,599 Speaker 1: they but will they stay committed to playing bully football? 2328 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, like second and nine, you run the ball, 2329 01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 1: first down, you get one yard, second and nine, I'd 2330 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 1: run it again. And I'm just I'm gonna walk up 2331 01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:25,960 Speaker 1: to the offensive line if I'm day ball and going, 2332 01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game with you guys in a 2333 01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,600 Speaker 1: run game. And we're gonna lose this game with you 2334 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,600 Speaker 1: guys in the run game either way, you know. And 2335 01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,360 Speaker 1: I think I think they could have success doing that. Yeah, 2336 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,000 Speaker 1: And I got one last thing for me, Dan and 2337 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,960 Speaker 1: a bigger picture. Drew Brees down in New Orleans passed 2338 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,400 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for the most touchdown passes in her career, 2339 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 1: over five hundred. A guy who and you've seen Drew, 2340 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like six foot six one. Maybe he 2341 01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,560 Speaker 1: had a catastrophic shoulder injury early in his career, and 2342 01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 1: yet here he's he's mushroomed into this guy who's passed 2343 01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,559 Speaker 1: for five thousand yards, more than five times more than 2344 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,599 Speaker 1: anybody else has done it. I mean, the guy's phenomenal. 2345 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,320 Speaker 1: What do you think about Drew Brees? Can you put that? 2346 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 1: As a former quarterback? Can you put what he's done 2347 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:14,479 Speaker 1: in perspective? Oh? Man? You know the Malcolm Gladwell author 2348 01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 1: when he talks about you become a master of something 2349 01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:20,760 Speaker 1: when you do it for ten thousand hours. Drew Brees 2350 01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:24,280 Speaker 1: has become a master of playing quarterback. He's never been 2351 01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,080 Speaker 1: the master of us as a thrower or an athlete 2352 01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:32,560 Speaker 1: or whatnot. He's a master at playing quarterback. And I 2353 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,920 Speaker 1: think his accomplishment if you guys, I don't know if 2354 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,040 Speaker 1: you guys saw it, but he had a quote post 2355 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 1: last night where he broke the touchdown record and the 2356 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:46,080 Speaker 1: completion percentage record in a game and had one in completion. 2357 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,040 Speaker 1: He had a quote last night and said that one 2358 01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,240 Speaker 1: in completion is gonna hat me forever. Wrap your brain 2359 01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 1: around that, like you want to know why guys become 2360 01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:01,160 Speaker 1: great or overcome physical deficiencies. Drew Brees has had a 2361 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:05,679 Speaker 1: historic night and the one flaw, literally the one flaw 2362 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,400 Speaker 1: that he had was on his mind. That is why 2363 01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,200 Speaker 1: he's great. Did you see the incompletion too? It almost 2364 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,640 Speaker 1: looked deliberate. Yeah, And he even said he's like if 2365 01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm not an idiot and I just square 2366 01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:18,600 Speaker 1: my feet, I'm gonna be fine, you know, just like 2367 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: that's me. If all was him, I'd be like, Hey, 2368 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm the best ever look at me. But you know, 2369 01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,920 Speaker 1: and he's going a wrong going, man, I was. I 2370 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,160 Speaker 1: was one incompletion away and that's that's the one that's 2371 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,519 Speaker 1: that's gonna, you know, be in my memory. Hey, Dan, 2372 01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,719 Speaker 1: thanks for this. It's always great. You've got great insight 2373 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,240 Speaker 1: into the Bills and Josh Allen, and thanks for making 2374 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,240 Speaker 1: yourself available to us today. We really appreciate it. Always 2375 01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 1: a pleasure, guys. Thanks Dan, Dan Orlovsky ESPN Football Analysts. 2376 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,960 Speaker 1: You can catch him there and does college and NFL 2377 01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,519 Speaker 1: and analysis. There. Played twelve seasons in the NFL with 2378 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,479 Speaker 1: the Lions, with Houston, with Indian Tampa Bay and we 2379 01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,720 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us here today. A lot of 2380 01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,400 Speaker 1: good observations are about the Bills. Uh, the Bills are 2381 01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 1: going to be in He's right, and you can tell 2382 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:00,640 Speaker 1: you watching the Bills. He's the Bills are going to 2383 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,680 Speaker 1: be in every game and they might just need a 2384 01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,400 Speaker 1: couple of plays from their offense to win every game. 2385 01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,639 Speaker 1: And he's talking about this year, this next month or two. 2386 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,640 Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute. It gives you a 2387 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:16,920 Speaker 1: little fluttered at it did, like, Yeah, they're gonna be 2388 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,920 Speaker 1: in every game, and yeah, you think about and we 2389 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,320 Speaker 1: believe that they probably are. Yeah, I never really put 2390 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,280 Speaker 1: it in perspective like that, but I have a hard time. 2391 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 1: It happened once this year in Philadelphia at home where 2392 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,439 Speaker 1: they scored thirty one and Bill scored thirteen, where they 2393 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of got out of hand. But man, oh man, 2394 01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,240 Speaker 1: you're right. This is a team and I said it 2395 01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,639 Speaker 1: early in the seas, they're hard to beat. They're gonna 2396 01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 1: be in. They're gonna be in these games. It's gonna 2397 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,880 Speaker 1: be another game like it was Sunday night, like the 2398 01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,200 Speaker 1: last playoff game they were in in Jacksonville. Is gonna's 2399 01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a one score game most of that game, 2400 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,720 Speaker 1: and um, and all you need is for this young 2401 01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:55,559 Speaker 1: quarterback and this group on offensive flash one or two plays, 2402 01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, over the course of the game to make 2403 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,080 Speaker 1: the difference. It's fun to think about. It's exciting. We 2404 01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,720 Speaker 1: thank dan or Laski for making himself available to us. 2405 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,400 Speaker 1: We got a more coming up. We want to hear 2406 01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,720 Speaker 1: more from you. What's the biggest reason you should root 2407 01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 1: for a Bill's win Saturday in Foxborough. Let's hear it 2408 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 1: from you on the phones eight three fifty toll free 2409 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,799 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Sending 2410 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,000 Speaker 1: a tweet, we can read it on the tweet sheet 2411 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 1: or vote in the Twitter poll and we will recap 2412 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,120 Speaker 1: that when we come back after this one. Bills Lie 2413 01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,400 Speaker 1: presented by Klatta Health Line from the Seneca Studio Seneca 2414 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:42,480 Speaker 1: Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close here We go inside 2415 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 1: the numbers with New York Lottery. Take a break from 2416 01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,520 Speaker 1: the expected place scratch off games from the New York 2417 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 1: State Lottery. Josh Anna responsible for a touchdown in twenty 2418 01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 1: straight games now by a rush or a pass that 2419 01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,680 Speaker 1: ties is the longest current streak by an NFL quarterback. 2420 01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 1: The ravens Lamar Jackson has twenty as well. Ties up. 2421 01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:03,360 Speaker 1: Bills set by Doug Flutie in ninety eight ninety nine 2422 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,280 Speaker 1: New York State Lottery inside in the numbers play scratch 2423 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 1: out games for the New York Lottery. Um, but the 2424 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 1: show turned, it turned. You know, it's good about the 2425 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,520 Speaker 1: show today, Steve. It's not over yet, that's one thing. Yeah, 2426 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,200 Speaker 1: think it's better than I thought it was gonna be. Well, 2427 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: we came in, we knew, we knew Kyle Brant was 2428 01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:23,000 Speaker 1: coming on, and that's it. That's all we had. That's it. 2429 01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:26,920 Speaker 1: And then Pristovsky, Yeah, Pete Prisco, we reached out to. 2430 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:30,000 Speaker 1: He was really good. And Orlovsky puts his tweet out 2431 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,400 Speaker 1: about the play the fourth you know, the touchdown to 2432 01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Croft and then he you know the time alcohol 2433 01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:37,840 Speaker 1: right in the time, and he puts his tweet out 2434 01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:39,320 Speaker 1: and we said, you know what we because I know 2435 01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 1: him and so does the show. He's a friend of 2436 01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,200 Speaker 1: the show and he's a great dude. So we call him, Hey, 2437 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 1: you want to come on and talk about He said yeah, 2438 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:48,120 Speaker 1: So he came on last segment. He's great. So all 2439 01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden we come in with Kyle Brandt and 2440 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,000 Speaker 1: nobody and we have Kyle Brandt, Pete Prisco, and Dan 2441 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,400 Speaker 1: Orlovsky and it turned into a really good show. Yeah, 2442 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,440 Speaker 1: and let's just sit here and just no, we want 2443 01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,400 Speaker 1: to hear from from listeners too, and you're welcome to 2444 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 1: join our hearts over the over the fire of our 2445 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 1: own us here, give us a call. We want air 2446 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:09,320 Speaker 1: from listeners. Fifty to three. You said it to a 2447 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,440 Speaker 1: little serendipity in the show because we had a caller 2448 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,760 Speaker 1: early on. I can go back and look at the name. 2449 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:17,280 Speaker 1: I always dropped the names down. I think it was 2450 01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 1: Rick who called in and was talking about, um, gotta 2451 01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:24,960 Speaker 1: stop wasting time, wasting time. I don't know if that 2452 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:26,640 Speaker 1: was Rick now, I don't think that it was Art. 2453 01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,440 Speaker 1: Art called in and was like, hey, they're wasting timeouts 2454 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 1: and you know, and then I didn't like the way 2455 01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,720 Speaker 1: they're handling the game management. And then or LOBSI comes 2456 01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,720 Speaker 1: on and tell and gives them a specific answer about 2457 01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,880 Speaker 1: why they were way out ahead of it and how 2458 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,440 Speaker 1: nimble they were and on it they were that they 2459 01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,360 Speaker 1: won that moment and maybe the game because of it. 2460 01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,760 Speaker 1: So it was a little serendipitous that we had a 2461 01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,600 Speaker 1: call or call in and ask about that or comment 2462 01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,520 Speaker 1: on it, and we had an expert, an NFL expert, 2463 01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,320 Speaker 1: a former player, and a quarterback come in and give 2464 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,360 Speaker 1: us what the lowdown on how it worked. It was. 2465 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive and we've talked about that before. We 2466 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever had had a head coach 2467 01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:07,040 Speaker 1: call defensive timeouts like this one does. And I think 2468 01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 1: it's a nod to the modern NFL where they kind 2469 01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 1: of say, listen it was. It's an old wives tale 2470 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,400 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't use a timeout on defense, right, and 2471 01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,840 Speaker 1: you get a lot of code like you Kyle Shanahan 2472 01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:21,800 Speaker 1: and Adam Gasee and all these offensive you know, Sean McVeagh, 2473 01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, use the timeout on defense. Yeah, because it counts, 2474 01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, use it when you need it, and the 2475 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,480 Speaker 1: moment that it is really important when that other team's 2476 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,080 Speaker 1: got that fourth down that if you get it, you 2477 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,920 Speaker 1: get you know, your probability goes web use a timeout. 2478 01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,480 Speaker 1: Sean mcdermots has been out ahead of that and done 2479 01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,560 Speaker 1: that on a number of occasions. And I it's funny too, 2480 01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,800 Speaker 1: because I'm the old offensive god and I'm like, oh wow, 2481 01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,360 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good time out. You know, I'm thinking 2482 01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:46,920 Speaker 1: it from the offensive side of it, and I go 2483 01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,000 Speaker 1: oh wow, that that kind of crushes them right there. 2484 01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,120 Speaker 1: It's a really smart move. No, not ever, I'm not 2485 01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 1: saying they've never blown a time out here in Buffalo. 2486 01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:59,080 Speaker 1: Always they have, but I've always been struck by their 2487 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,320 Speaker 1: willingness and what they get out of They seem to 2488 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,600 Speaker 1: win those moments after those timeouts. It's pretty cool. I 2489 01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,280 Speaker 1: would love to get coach McDermott talking about that sometime, 2490 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:09,480 Speaker 1: and that and other ways that he and his staff 2491 01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:14,080 Speaker 1: have embraced analytics. Analytics is much more than don't punt 2492 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:17,400 Speaker 1: on fourth down. No, these guys are totally basing many 2493 01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,200 Speaker 1: of their decisions on analytics, like can we use the 2494 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:22,360 Speaker 1: timeout on defense? What does that mean? Where should these 2495 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,040 Speaker 1: timeouts go? And every and in the whole player development 2496 01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 1: and physical conditioning aspects of sports science, and these guys 2497 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,200 Speaker 1: are heavily into analytics. They don't talk about it much 2498 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:36,400 Speaker 1: because they don't talk about much of anything. Talking about 2499 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,000 Speaker 1: of stuff because there may be a team out there's 2500 01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 1: not doing it's proprietary information, you know. And it's interesting too, yeah, 2501 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,440 Speaker 1: because it's you talk about, you know, where they use 2502 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: these timeouts and how they manage the game. A lot 2503 01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:51,480 Speaker 1: of it comes down to projections like if we do 2504 01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:55,880 Speaker 1: this and this, you know, it changes the narrative the 2505 01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,200 Speaker 1: rest of the game. For instance, I heard him and 2506 01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,360 Speaker 1: I never really thought about it. With a certain amount 2507 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,839 Speaker 1: of time left, they start to count how many possessions 2508 01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,880 Speaker 1: are going to be left in that game? And you 2509 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 1: want to have the first one in the last one, 2510 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. In what's left? You want 2511 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,200 Speaker 1: to have this one and then the last one too. 2512 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 1: And if you can manipulate the clock by going forward 2513 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,800 Speaker 1: on fourth down to give you that extra possession, or 2514 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, do that. It all gets mixed into the water. 2515 01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,720 Speaker 1: It's all. I don't know whether it's all statistics. Probably 2516 01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what math genre you're talking about, but man, 2517 01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:31,600 Speaker 1: oh man, it's rampant in the NFL and certainly in 2518 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,880 Speaker 1: this building, sure is. Hey, our Twitter poll today, what's 2519 01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,160 Speaker 1: the biggest reason you should root for a Bills win 2520 01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,960 Speaker 1: over the Patriots? Sanitay in Foxborough? On the Twitter poll 2521 01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,480 Speaker 1: seventeen hundred votes in so far, about half of you 2522 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,080 Speaker 1: fifty one percent say the biggest reason would be that 2523 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,920 Speaker 1: it signifies the changing of the guard in the AFC East. 2524 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,720 Speaker 1: Thirty three percent of you say it would be because 2525 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:54,560 Speaker 1: that would keep the Bills chances alive for a division title. Okay, 2526 01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,240 Speaker 1: and it's a remote chance, but that's where I would vote. 2527 01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,880 Speaker 1: Thirteen percent of you say it would. It could be 2528 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:02,760 Speaker 1: the last chance to beat Tom Brady. He's thirty one 2529 02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 1: and three against the Bills. Three percent of you have 2530 02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:07,040 Speaker 1: something else in mine. Let's talk about it. Eight three 2531 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:10,720 Speaker 1: fifty to three one eight eight eight five fifty two 2532 02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,800 Speaker 1: five fifty. Tony on the line from Rochester, Tony, go ahead, 2533 02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:16,920 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Murphy had a little bit different 2534 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 1: take on why they should beat the Patriots. Okay, first 2535 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,760 Speaker 1: of all, I'm an everyday listener, so I know way 2536 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 1: back in August and September, there was one host on 2537 02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:29,720 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live who predicted eleven or twelve wins. He 2538 02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:31,880 Speaker 1: said eleven plus. I don't think he ruled out thirteen 2539 02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:36,160 Speaker 1: or fourteen. Well, eleven or plus, right, So I would 2540 02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,240 Speaker 1: like him to be spot on. If they beat the Patriots. 2541 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:41,720 Speaker 1: I think they'll come out to play against the Jets. 2542 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,640 Speaker 1: If they don't beat the Patriots, they have nothing for 2543 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,520 Speaker 1: it to play for it for the Jets and I 2544 02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,800 Speaker 1: think the rest of them that's but I would like 2545 02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,720 Speaker 1: one of you to be dead right. That's why can't 2546 02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I be dead right? Because you choose less games than 2547 02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:57,120 Speaker 1: I did. Why can't you rule for me to be 2548 02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,680 Speaker 1: dead right? Tony? And by the way, what do we 2549 02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:03,480 Speaker 1: do with plus now that it's down to you know down, 2550 02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,400 Speaker 1: we're down to playoff plus? Well, you didn't make that clear. 2551 02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:10,760 Speaker 1: You said eleven plus. You took eleven to infinity. I 2552 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:13,280 Speaker 1: nailed down a number. I think you your prediction of 2553 02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:18,040 Speaker 1: eleven plus was invalid. Kids eleven. What if I said 2554 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:22,080 Speaker 1: ten minus? What would I get? I don't know. I 2555 02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 1: think I don't know. That's a good point, Tony. Are 2556 02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:25,760 Speaker 1: you trying to get us fight? My plus had to do. 2557 02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,000 Speaker 1: My plus was and I maybe I didn't make this 2558 02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:31,040 Speaker 1: clear at the time, but my plus was a playoff game, 2559 02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:34,200 Speaker 1: playoff win. I think they could win a playoff game. Um, 2560 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,920 Speaker 1: and whether they won the division with eleven wins or whatever, 2561 02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to win a playoff game. 2562 02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's that still stands. I think Tony's 2563 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:45,520 Speaker 1: trying to get us arguments. Yeah, Bill and Rochester, go ahead, Bill, 2564 02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. 2565 02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I think the best reason to win is we are 2566 02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:56,080 Speaker 1: definitely rolled Warriors and we're going all the way to 2567 02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,080 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. You know, the Bills have never gone 2568 02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:01,160 Speaker 1: seven and one in a season on the road. I 2569 02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:04,360 Speaker 1: read that today too. Who wrote that? I think I 2570 02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:07,760 Speaker 1: wrote that it's going up on the website tomorrow. Yet 2571 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:10,000 Speaker 1: never never gone seven and one, which I have to 2572 02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,120 Speaker 1: confess it surprised me for four times. This will be 2573 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,520 Speaker 1: if they this is the fourth time in their history 2574 02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:18,160 Speaker 1: they've gone six, won six road games, never gone seven 2575 02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:20,480 Speaker 1: and one, certainly never gone eight. No on the road either. 2576 02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:23,640 Speaker 1: That's that's big. Yeah, that's big, And that would be 2577 02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:26,920 Speaker 1: that would be significant. It would be a how about it? 2578 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,480 Speaker 1: You know, you start winning double jigit games and you 2579 02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:32,920 Speaker 1: start doing some pretty cool stuff, particularly and given the 2580 02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,760 Speaker 1: last recent history of this club, you're going to do 2581 02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,000 Speaker 1: some historic things. Yeah, you know. And if you could 2582 02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:41,560 Speaker 1: win seven road games in a season, first time in 2583 02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:46,760 Speaker 1: the Enfranchise's history, milestone, that's a big milestone. Here is 2584 02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:48,920 Speaker 1: a John in Tonawanda. John, welcome to the show and 2585 02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:53,600 Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, doing you good good? I'm 2586 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:57,480 Speaker 1: very excited that we clinched. Already I'm already out of 2587 02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:02,400 Speaker 1: my mind, but for John, I think I watched him 2588 02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:05,880 Speaker 1: every week everything that he does. I think that he's 2589 02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:09,480 Speaker 1: not scared of anybody. He is very clinch at the 2590 02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,480 Speaker 1: end of a game. He doesn't get nervous. And I 2591 02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:15,240 Speaker 1: think beating New England in New England would give him 2592 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:21,560 Speaker 1: more confidence going into the playoffs. UM as well as singultary. 2593 02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:27,320 Speaker 1: How he runs our defense is you know, awesome. And 2594 02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:30,000 Speaker 1: my other comment I want to make to Steve Uh 2595 02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:33,960 Speaker 1: just as a long time fan, my favorite all times 2596 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:39,720 Speaker 1: to U Tasker play is Special Teams the Rams kick 2597 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,200 Speaker 1: or punt and you crushed the guy who caught the ball. 2598 02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Remember that play, Steve. I think I probably remember the 2599 02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:52,120 Speaker 1: one you're talking about. He had been with us for 2600 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,160 Speaker 1: a year and a half, two years before that, UM, 2601 02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 1: and he was he went to the Rams and Vernon returner, 2602 02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,520 Speaker 1: Vernon Vernon Turner. He was good, too good. He was 2603 02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,880 Speaker 1: really good. He's a good player. And and and that 2604 02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,200 Speaker 1: the hit he's talking about his interesting because Vernon and 2605 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,600 Speaker 1: I are friends, obviously, and Uh, Vernon hasn't an autobiography out, 2606 02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,400 Speaker 1: does he. Yeah, And one of the chapters in the 2607 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,840 Speaker 1: book is that hit and the old chap He sent 2608 02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,480 Speaker 1: me an autograph copy you know stuff. He's great and 2609 02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,520 Speaker 1: he's doing very well. He's and I there's a chance 2610 02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,440 Speaker 1: of that book could be made. They could make the 2611 02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:29,280 Speaker 1: move book into a movie. Really yeah, why Vernon was 2612 02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Vernon was like almost smaller than me. Uh and he 2613 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,200 Speaker 1: had and he was talented, very talented, and he's got 2614 02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:37,920 Speaker 1: a great backstory. He was he's you know, to hit him. 2615 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean the ball was like literally caught and you hit. 2616 02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:44,440 Speaker 1: How did you know the ball was right there? I 2617 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,280 Speaker 1: could tell me. I could tell by his body language. 2618 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean it was. I knew the guy I had 2619 02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,640 Speaker 1: say something up he might I couldn't hear him. I 2620 02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:55,600 Speaker 1: was my head was probably still ringing, but he was. Yeah, Um, 2621 02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I could tell by the way. There's a whole I 2622 02:04:58,080 --> 02:04:59,840 Speaker 1: got a whole list of things that happened on that 2623 02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,280 Speaker 1: play because I've relived it so many times because of 2624 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,600 Speaker 1: fans like you, John, and and there's that's back on 2625 02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the old turf, when the middle of the field was 2626 02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:11,920 Speaker 1: a painted bill's helmet. The paint was slippery. I used 2627 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: that to my advantage on the way down there. They doubled, 2628 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,120 Speaker 1: they actually doubled teamed me on the outside and they 2629 02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,320 Speaker 1: ran a third guy out to trying to pick me off, 2630 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, on the punt coverage. It was the first 2631 02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:26,120 Speaker 1: punt of the nineteen ninety two regular season. That's why 2632 02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:29,960 Speaker 1: it was so sunny and warm that day, and uh yeah, 2633 02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:32,000 Speaker 1: it just worked out. What can you say? I was 2634 02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 1: gonna I wondered if thanks for your call. I wondered 2635 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,200 Speaker 1: if he was gonna bring up another one of your 2636 02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,800 Speaker 1: famous hits. And what happened after the hit? Your hit 2637 02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,880 Speaker 1: on Tim Brown of the Raiders, La Raiders, Oakland Raiders. 2638 02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,640 Speaker 1: They were LA my entire career, and he was he 2639 02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:46,920 Speaker 1: was he was, he was a trophy winner, he was 2640 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,400 Speaker 1: a premier return guy, hall of famer. Yeah, and you 2641 02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:51,200 Speaker 1: hit him, and you both sat there and looked at 2642 02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:53,360 Speaker 1: each other and just pointed each other. The pointed at me, 2643 02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:55,120 Speaker 1: and I kind of shrugged my shoulders like I'm glad 2644 02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:57,840 Speaker 1: I got you because there was nobody, you know. Yeah, 2645 02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Tim Brown, big time, Yeah, Tim great. And I chased 2646 02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:07,320 Speaker 1: all the great ones man, Dion rod Woodson, Clarence Verdan, 2647 02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:10,160 Speaker 1: I chased all the really good ones, really cool, good, 2648 02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:12,360 Speaker 1: good memory. Thanks for bringing that up. Hey, we should 2649 02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:14,760 Speaker 1: talk about this in our remaining moments. The Pro Bowl 2650 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:18,480 Speaker 1: voting comes out tonight eight o'clock NFL Network, a special 2651 02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:23,000 Speaker 1: NFL Total Access Pro Bowl players revealed at eight pm tonight. 2652 02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson of the Ravens the top vote getter among fans. 2653 02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:28,520 Speaker 1: But that's only a third of the compilation of votes, right. 2654 02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:32,560 Speaker 1: It's fans, coaching staffs, and players, and so the Bills 2655 02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,440 Speaker 1: with their ten wins should get consideration. And look, I'll 2656 02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,200 Speaker 1: say it tonight, I'll say it today. If Tredavious White 2657 02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:40,400 Speaker 1: is not going to the Pro Bowl, then somebody's gonna 2658 02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:41,960 Speaker 1: have to answer to you and me, Steve, because that 2659 02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,880 Speaker 1: guy is maybe one of the top two corners in 2660 02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the league right now. He belongs. If he's not on 2661 02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:48,440 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this year, there's something wrong with the 2662 02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:52,440 Speaker 1: process of choosing him. Yeah, no question about it. When 2663 02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:55,640 Speaker 1: I first began in my career, the Pro Bowl was 2664 02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,920 Speaker 1: only voted on by coaches and players. The coaching staff 2665 02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:02,280 Speaker 1: of each team had a vote for each position in 2666 02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:06,000 Speaker 1: their conference, and the players on each team had one 2667 02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,440 Speaker 1: vote for each of their positions. So, for instance, the 2668 02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills coaching staff equaled one vote for each position, 2669 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:16,080 Speaker 1: and then the players also had one vote, so all 2670 02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:18,800 Speaker 1: the players would vote for their choice as quarterback of 2671 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:20,920 Speaker 1: the AFC, and they would vote for their choice of 2672 02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:24,560 Speaker 1: center and garden. So that's how it went. And then 2673 02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:29,360 Speaker 1: during my career it widened and they added the fan 2674 02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:32,800 Speaker 1: vote into it, and that votes counts for one vote 2675 02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,680 Speaker 1: for the players. And there were stories back in your era, 2676 02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:38,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's to this extent, but 2677 02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,280 Speaker 1: there was politicking right and our mutual friend fred Smerliss 2678 02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,320 Speaker 1: was like a Tammany hall Ward healer. He would get 2679 02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:46,920 Speaker 1: on the phone Pro Bowl voting day and call his 2680 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,080 Speaker 1: buddies on other teams to say, you vote for this guy, 2681 02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,680 Speaker 1: and will vote for your guy and trade favors. I 2682 02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,320 Speaker 1: wonder if it's still goes. I don't know about that. 2683 02:07:53,440 --> 02:08:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure did. And I know this too. I was yeah, 2684 02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, of course there was some of that. 2685 02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure there wasn't. And I know this. I never no, 2686 02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I never did it. But here's the thing. What it 2687 02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:13,360 Speaker 1: worked for us on our team when during the times 2688 02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I was there was that you know, obviously me as 2689 02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:17,760 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, I'm sitting over there, how do I 2690 02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:19,680 Speaker 1: know who the best left guard is? Yeah? But I 2691 02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,200 Speaker 1: would ask, you know, Ted Washington. I go, Teddy, who 2692 02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:24,280 Speaker 1: do we vote for? And those guys would say, hey, 2693 02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,360 Speaker 1: here's the guy that gave us the biggest problems. That 2694 02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:28,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing, so, you know, and they would say, okay, 2695 02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:31,560 Speaker 1: you guys, you know us receivers will pick the corners. 2696 02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:34,800 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks can pick the you know, the safeties or 2697 02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:37,680 Speaker 1: whoever you know. The running backs will pick the linebackers 2698 02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:39,440 Speaker 1: or whoever you know, whatever that the case may be. 2699 02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:41,680 Speaker 1: They would pick the guys that they competed directly against. 2700 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,440 Speaker 1: It's the best ones. Any other Bills who have a 2701 02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:47,480 Speaker 1: shot maybe an outside on the Pro Bowl recognition tonight? 2702 02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:51,480 Speaker 1: What about Tremaine Edmonds, leading tackler on the NFL's third 2703 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,280 Speaker 1: drink defense. They've been top five defense all season long? 2704 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Why not Edmunds? Yeah, and there's some great defenses out there, 2705 02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, the New England Patriots, the Buffalo Bills, 2706 02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:03,680 Speaker 1: or the top of the league with the forty nine ers. 2707 02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, those four teams have been there all season 2708 02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:08,080 Speaker 1: and haven't moved and have a chance. I think so. 2709 02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. Particularly the fact and 2710 02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,040 Speaker 1: it's interesting too, the particularly the fact that they had 2711 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:18,320 Speaker 1: two highly high profile games here at the end of 2712 02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:20,360 Speaker 1: the season where people were kind of getting in their 2713 02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,320 Speaker 1: minds and I gotta vote for this. And now they 2714 02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:24,480 Speaker 1: see the Buffalo Bills play so well against Dallas, they 2715 02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:27,120 Speaker 1: see the Buffalo Bills play okay, really good against Baltimore, 2716 02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,920 Speaker 1: and then of course Sunday night against Pittsburgh. Tremaine has 2717 02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,560 Speaker 1: cut it loose the last month and a half. He's 2718 02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:34,760 Speaker 1: a different he's cut loose cat. Great to see they're 2719 02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,240 Speaker 1: a different cat. Yeah, he's great. Anybody else, I'm thinking 2720 02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,360 Speaker 1: John Brown seventy one catches five of them for touchdowns. 2721 02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,160 Speaker 1: He wouldn't merit some consideration, right for a Pro Bowl. 2722 02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll And some of these guys may end 2723 02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:48,360 Speaker 1: up being the second alternatet or third alternate and will 2724 02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:52,840 Speaker 1: end up playing in the game anyway, because quite frankly, 2725 02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:54,680 Speaker 1: nobody wants to play in the game. They want the 2726 02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,480 Speaker 1: honor of being selected without having the responsibility of going 2727 02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:59,520 Speaker 1: down there and actually suiting up and going out on 2728 02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:02,600 Speaker 1: the field, or it's been raining for two hours before 2729 02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it happens, that's the game. 2730 02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:07,600 Speaker 1: It's the honor. It's then, yeah, it's the honor. And 2731 02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I've I've long said the league should do something different 2732 02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:13,800 Speaker 1: than having an All Star game. They should have a 2733 02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:17,040 Speaker 1: weekend or an experience or whatever for these players. And 2734 02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:19,640 Speaker 1: we post the question to Kyle Brandt today and he 2735 02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:23,160 Speaker 1: mentioned Josh Allen long shot right for Pro Bowl tonight. Yeah, 2736 02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:25,760 Speaker 1: I would say long shot, long shot, although yeah, who knows, 2737 02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,280 Speaker 1: who knows? I mean, maybe these teams, maybe the defenses 2738 02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:30,120 Speaker 1: are scared to Josh because of his legs and because 2739 02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:32,600 Speaker 1: of the you know, maybe he does strike a little 2740 02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:35,560 Speaker 1: fear into him for his athleticism and his arm. I 2741 02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,480 Speaker 1: don't know. Eight o'clock tonight, NFL Network, the Pro Bowl 2742 02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Reveal Show. We'll talk about more of that tomorrow. Maybe 2743 02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,840 Speaker 1: we'll complain about it. How did this guy right? That's 2744 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:47,440 Speaker 1: standard talk show fodder. You got to get there. He's 2745 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,400 Speaker 1: got to be absolutely no brainer. Get in and I 2746 02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:52,040 Speaker 1: would hope so, yeah, I would think so. All right 2747 02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,120 Speaker 1: to break, We're back with more One Bill's Live, presented 2748 02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:56,560 Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. 2749 02:10:56,960 --> 02:11:11,720 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills reading, So what have we learned? 2750 02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Is brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment 2751 02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:17,400 Speaker 1: rental company of the Buffalo Bills turned into a good show. Today. 2752 02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco from CBS longtime reporter covering the NFL CBS 2753 02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 1: dot Com, we asked him if a Buffalo wins Saturday 2754 02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,840 Speaker 1: in New England might signify a changing of the guard 2755 02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:30,760 Speaker 1: in the AFC East. Here's what he said. That was 2756 02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:32,440 Speaker 1: my prediction before the season. I said they get to 2757 02:11:32,520 --> 02:11:34,720 Speaker 1: the postseason this year and win the division next year. 2758 02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:36,560 Speaker 1: And I still think that's going to happen. Yeah, I 2759 02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:39,320 Speaker 1: absolutely think that's that's in the process. That's happening. And 2760 02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you gotta give them a credit for a way of 2761 02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:42,840 Speaker 1: built that team. You know, there's still a couple of 2762 02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:44,880 Speaker 1: spots to the offensive line of times has been leaky. 2763 02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:47,480 Speaker 1: They've been leaky against the run. They need to get, 2764 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, bigger, I think bigger people up front to help, 2765 02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, choke off the run a little bit. But 2766 02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you gotta like what you're seeing. Edmund is growing and 2767 02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,879 Speaker 1: he's athletic. Kid Milana is one of the most underrated 2768 02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:58,839 Speaker 1: players at the NFL. He doesn't get dude, he deserves 2769 02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,440 Speaker 1: those two safeties. They're smart and athletic and they cover 2770 02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ground. And we know whitehout stand and 2771 02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, I love what they've done. They still have 2772 02:12:06,040 --> 02:12:08,720 Speaker 1: some problems, but it's switching, it's it's it's just changing 2773 02:12:08,720 --> 02:12:09,960 Speaker 1: in the guard. They will be the best team in 2774 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,320 Speaker 1: the division next year. As Pete Prisco talking about the 2775 02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Bills and the Patriot's. Also on the show today, Kyle 2776 02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:17,680 Speaker 1: Brandt from NFL Never gost A Good Morning Football. We 2777 02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:19,880 Speaker 1: asked him to twitter pole question what would it mean 2778 02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:22,160 Speaker 1: if the Bills beat New England this year? Here's what 2779 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:27,560 Speaker 1: he said. If not now, when when? If you're not 2780 02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna beat braiding there now, then I don't know if 2781 02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:32,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen until retire. Let's stick about it. He's 2782 02:12:33,040 --> 02:12:35,800 Speaker 1: coming off a loss at home to a young, upstart 2783 02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs team. He apparently is bothered by this elbow. He 2784 02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:42,160 Speaker 1: has no one to throw too, even good old faithful 2785 02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman. I think had two catches last week for 2786 02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:48,800 Speaker 1: almost nothing. There has never ever been more blood in 2787 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the water with this New England dynasty, and they're facing it. 2788 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:55,440 Speaker 1: Bill's team that's on fire. So it's like, here's here's 2789 02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:58,400 Speaker 1: the danger of it. The Bills should compete in this game. 2790 02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,080 Speaker 1: They should win this game. They're better team, right, now. 2791 02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:04,200 Speaker 1: But if you lose this game, it's a huge punch 2792 02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:06,360 Speaker 1: in the stomach for Buffalo, I think because it's just like, 2793 02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,760 Speaker 1: what do we gotta do? It was never going to 2794 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,240 Speaker 1: be set out better than this to win there, and 2795 02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:12,200 Speaker 1: we still couldn't do it. I think there's pressure there. 2796 02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:15,080 Speaker 1: Like everything Kyle said, except the last sentence and a half, 2797 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how much pressure there is on the Bills. Yes, 2798 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:19,560 Speaker 1: they want to win, and it'd be great to win, 2799 02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:21,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it would be a huge 2800 02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:23,440 Speaker 1: punch in the gut. What do you know nobody expects 2801 02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:27,000 Speaker 1: him too? Yeah right, I mean outside of you know, 2802 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:29,600 Speaker 1: the building, and you know Bills fans who you know 2803 02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,680 Speaker 1: have faith in the team and all that. But you know, 2804 02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:34,400 Speaker 1: national media fans from other teams, certainly the New England fans, 2805 02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and nobody expects the Bills and go in there and 2806 02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:37,840 Speaker 1: this late in the season and beat those guys. Now, 2807 02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,080 Speaker 1: certainly they see New England's being vulnerable in a way 2808 02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:42,920 Speaker 1: they haven't been in before. But come on, it's just 2809 02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,680 Speaker 1: you and me, Murph. We got a couple more days 2810 02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:48,920 Speaker 1: to talk about this. Thanks for our production assistance. George Blast, 2811 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:51,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Coltonick Thomas Holland or Kelly Rude, j j Urito, 2812 02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:54,960 Speaker 1: Kevin carg James robol our producer Jay Harris. Back with 2813 02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:58,960 Speaker 1: you tomorrow at twelve noon. Join us in One Bills Live, 2814 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,840 Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida from the Seneca Studio in Archer Park 2815 02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:03,480 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio