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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Hulet's go, Let's.

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Speaker 2: Go, Let's go, Gliants, dont come get get out my

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Speaker 2: Giants bubble, give me some German. Part of the Giants

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Speaker 2: podcast network.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll. Welcome to the Giants Huddle podcast that is

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. I'm Paul Tatino, and he is Marcus Kohn,

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Speaker 1: former Giants defensive tackle. He was here from twenty twelve

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Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen, former seventh round pickout of NC State.

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Speaker 1: And Marcus, it's great to see you, because this is

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Speaker 1: a great year to be back involved with the Giants,

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Speaker 1: one hundredth season and a year in which we're going

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Speaker 1: to Germany.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited to be here with you, first of all,

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Speaker 3: and also back with the Giants of course.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's make sure people understand Week ten,

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Speaker 1: Giants Panthers, Munich, Germany. That's November tenth, nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: am New York time. What is that in German?

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Speaker 3: Das three thirty pm, so we have a six hour

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Speaker 1: Okay, and that's a good time for a game. They

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Speaker 3: In the US, it's good you can party a little

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Speaker 3: bit earlier. You should started fund the Sun the Sunday

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Speaker 3: Fun Day a little bit earlier. And in Germany three

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Speaker 1: All right, So Marcus is officially the brand ambassador and

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Speaker 1: content strategist for the Giants, in addition to a host

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Speaker 1: of things which we will get to in just a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Because he has been a busy camper

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Speaker 1: since he hung up the cleats. But since you are

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Speaker 1: that that kind of resonates with you when you see

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Speaker 1: the uniform, see the helmet and know that your professional career.

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Speaker 1: While you did go to the Patriots for a cup

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Speaker 1: of coffee but didn't play a regular season game, correct, right,

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Speaker 1: You're a Giant?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And what is that?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to you as you go around

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Speaker 1: and promote professional football?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, being born and raised in Germany

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Speaker 3: which is crazy to think about. But then the Giants

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Speaker 3: drafted me in twenty twelve after they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You come into a locker room right away with guys

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Speaker 3: and you're I mean, my position group was pretty special

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, you hang out with

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Speaker 3: I got my master's at Columbia after playing, and I

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Speaker 1: Very cool now I had read in your bio when

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Speaker 1: I was getting ready here because obviously I knew Marcus

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Speaker 1: what he played here, but I didn't know a lot

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Speaker 1: about your background. Originally, I saw that in the German

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Speaker 1: So you need to explain this to me. Why those positions,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I grew a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the American diet or the

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Speaker 2: A bad guy. But yeah, so what happened.

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Speaker 3: I showed up at the combine exactly three hundred pounds,

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Speaker 1: Well, four years at NC State. Did very well there

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Speaker 1: the thing that surprises me. You hear about so many

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Speaker 3: Well, if you look like this, you don't have that

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Speaker 1: To be drafted is a pretty great accomplishment and a

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Speaker 3: Case, right, No, I mean funny enough. So when I

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and six, my dad and I with

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Speaker 2: And I'm still.

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Speaker 3: Happy that the sport is growing and I can support that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you got to meet Michael Strahan, who was

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Speaker 3: So same hometown pretty much actually, Menheim, Germany. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so two of the Giants great defensive linemen come from Manheim, Germany.

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Speaker 1: Now I remember Michael telling me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well at least one of you is in Canton, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I did hear from Michael one time. Didn't you

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Speaker 3: I didn't go with Michael, but I see because I

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Speaker 1: So now Giants fans will remember when Marcus was in

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Speaker 1: I always thought was the most spectacular play of your career.

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Speaker 2: You like, it just looked like it. It was actually

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Speaker 1: I think that the cool thing about it was, though,

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Speaker 2: My goal was that if I get.

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Speaker 3: To play once in a college game, I've kind of

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Speaker 3: Then I played right away my fresh my rookie year

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Speaker 3: It's a scoop and score because I happened to be

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Speaker 3: But I have I have so many other moments that

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Speaker 1: Did you keep the ball?

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the only football memorabilia I have out

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Speaker 1: And of course you had a shack against the Eagles

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Speaker 1: I remember that too, because anytime a Giant shacks an Eagle,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had that, and think I had a sack

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, obviously, I know American football has been growing

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just stick right there with the football part

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you think internationally in general, everybody outside

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Speaker 3: So you may you maybe have not heard about too

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Speaker 1: Well, having you played here, how to help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, many years ago, Dan Reeves was the coach at

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Speaker 3: Well, you maybe see jerseys in all colors. I know

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Speaker 3: It's definitely not a Panter's home game. There's a good opportunity,

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Speaker 1: So they are converting a football field onto the soccer field.

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Speaker 1: So where will the Giants and Panthers practice when they

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now these games are are being spread out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's going to be the maybe the

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Speaker 1: Folks, football is coming and so is the next college semester.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to go to North Carolina State anymore.

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Speaker 1: college Marcus. I want to ask you this. I remember

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Speaker 1: How big is the stadium going to be that they'll

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Speaker 3: Mean, let's let's see, because the teams obviously get tickets

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Speaker 1: Now, there will be some Giant season ticket holders who

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Speaker 3: Well, also, if you think about German, most people probably

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what you should experience, right.

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Speaker 3: You should go to a beer hall, you should eat

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Speaker 1: Very very cool stuff. Right now, Marcius has a lot

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Speaker 3: So after playing here, you know, like every former player,

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Speaker 2: Where you going next? What's happening next? For me?

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Speaker 3: While I made up my mind, I thought, let's get

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Speaker 3: So I started working with the NFL relatively fast. Helped

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Speaker 3: them as as an ambassador, helped them with content. Obviously

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Speaker 3: have some insights about how our league operates. How I mean,

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Speaker 3: a former player can always sell the game better maybe

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Speaker 3: than just somebody that works in an organization or works

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Speaker 3: for the league. Then to support the NFLPA because they

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Speaker 3: have a good opportunity to bring in players, current players

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Speaker 3: over to Germany. So last year I brought with the

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Speaker 3: NFLPA eight active players in the market with the trip

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Speaker 3: to Frankfurt and they had a really good time over there.

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Speaker 3: And then I worked with the Patriots, So the Patriots

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Speaker 3: have been very active in Germany. Started before what you

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Speaker 3: mentioned the teams could apply for these international markets. The

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Speaker 3: Patriots were active with international content, so I support them

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Speaker 3: there in their strategy. Yeah, and then as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: I have Game Day and I work with some with

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Speaker 3: a charity as well where I'm on the board, so

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Speaker 3: I stay busy.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you mentioned before about the fan base O

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Speaker 1: where they or do they have favorite players who Do

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Speaker 1: they root more just for the game or do they root.

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Speaker 2: For specific organizations.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a mix. So I feel like

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Speaker 3: overall the interest is primarily in the game first. And

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Speaker 3: also I mean, if you look, if you're America is

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Speaker 3: still cool, right, So if you do, America is the

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Speaker 3: entertainment country of the world, so you have a cool sport,

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Speaker 3: you have a great entertainment property. So people just enjoy

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Speaker 3: watching the game. They like the fireworks around and the excitement.

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Speaker 3: They also like the different aspects of the game, right,

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Speaker 3: you have the physicality, you also have the tactics right

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Speaker 3: behind it, and I think that's what's very attractive to

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Speaker 3: a lot of people. And also the diversity of people

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Speaker 3: you have on the field that speaks to a lot

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's kind of that's kind of.

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Speaker 2: The main point. While Germans, like I said as much.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm going to have you put your

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Speaker 1: football education to use, not your masters or your being.

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Speaker 1: What do you see from this Giants defense this year?

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence plays defensive tackle, a spot you know very well,

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Speaker 1: and he's such a dominant player. What besides the athleticism

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Speaker 1: which everybody can see, what impressions you the most about him?

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Speaker 3: I mean just his personality, right, So I know Deck's

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Speaker 3: quite well. I've had a few run ins with him.

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Speaker 3: He's just a great person. It's very important for locker

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Speaker 3: room to have guys who are dominant players but also

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Speaker 3: fun teammates, the guys you want to spend a lot

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Speaker 3: of time with which the football season is long, a

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Speaker 3: lot of hours. It's not always easy. So a guy

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Speaker 3: that makes it enjoyable, makes it fun, but then also

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Speaker 3: goes out there and dominates. It's it's a great combination.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Giants are lucky to have arguably

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Speaker 3: one of the best or maybe the best interior defensive

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Speaker 3: line in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And then having Thibodeau and of course burns Now the

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Speaker 1: patrushes off the age.

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Speaker 2: You guys will help him out too.

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Speaker 3: So you got to double one of these guys, and

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Speaker 3: that means some of them will be free.

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Speaker 1: So that as someone who had an ACL, I'd be

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Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't ask you about Daniel Jones coming

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Speaker 1: back off of one of those. Have you talked to

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Speaker 1: him much? I mean, what would be your key advice

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Speaker 1: to him as he tries to make it back to

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is with Danny he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: to take on double teams like like I had to do.

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Speaker 3: So do you have to have a lot less strain

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Speaker 3: on your legs. So I think for a quarterback, we've

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Speaker 3: seen many quarterbacks, right Tom Brady had an ACL surgery. Sure,

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Speaker 3: I think he did all right after that one as well.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's more you know, your body holds up.

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Speaker 3: You have a great sports medicine team here. You have

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Speaker 3: great doctors and surgeons that the Giants will help you

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Speaker 3: out with so your body will hold up. I think,

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Speaker 3: to get in the right space and you get the

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Speaker 3: confidence back that even if I get hit, I will

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Speaker 3: be fine. I think that's the most important part. But

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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about Dan in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Will his first game or his first hit that he

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Speaker 1: takes on it be the most important hurdle he has

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Speaker 1: to climb.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's multiple hits, right you. Also, you

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Speaker 3: have to get more and more comfortable with it. At

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Speaker 3: first time, you're probably like, oh, it's everything holding up,

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Speaker 3: and then you think, oh, this is fine. Then you

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Speaker 3: get another hit and then you maybe were it there.

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Speaker 3: So the more you play, the more and more you

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Speaker 3: will forget what actually happened, and yeah, eventually you will

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Speaker 3: just move on.

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Speaker 1: All right, So again the Giants and the Panthers in Munich,

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Speaker 1: Germany on November tenth, nine thirty am kickoff here New

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Speaker 1: York time. That is week ten of the NFL regular station.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume you'll be there all week.

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Speaker 3: Of course you're not going to miss it, No, I'll

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Speaker 3: be right. Yeah, I made every Germany game so far,

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Speaker 3: our moments this one.

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Speaker 1: Now we can't maybe sneak you out onto the field

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Speaker 1: for a couple snaps.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it will be big.

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Speaker 3: Maybe still looked apart, but it's all show you certainly

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Speaker 3: look at It's just a show pony. So yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Kuhn, former New York Giants defensive lineman, now a

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Speaker 1: very big part of what's going on with the German

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Speaker 1: game as a brand. Check this out brand ambassador and

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Speaker 1: content strategies that I take it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two titles, perfect titles are free. But I take it.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that that means, that means that.

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Speaker 2: Means you meet double pays. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be here, Marcy. Thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this edition of the Giants Huddle. I'm Pauledatino.

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Speaker 1: You can catch this and all of your Giants' favorite

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Speaker 1: programming on the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. Everybody,