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Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Hall of Famer John Smoltz with us

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Speaker 4: We just had Ken here eighteen and you're skipping your

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Speaker 3: Was this here?

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Speaker 1: Is that why the cushion is soul?

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Speaker 4: That's why it's so fluffed up, And you're skipping your

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Perfect, Yeah, you enjoy it. You enjoy your week off.

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Speaker 1: Next week? No, actually, next week, I am working.

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Speaker 5: Which game is yours?

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Speaker 1: This is my pictures. Don't show up to the All

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Speaker 3: That's four Nations Cup that. Remember the Kachucks versus was

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Speaker 4: You would have to still pick the All Stars, so

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Speaker 1: That's what blows my mind. Like everyone that wanted to

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem with that, And I agree with everything

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Speaker 3: And then the minor leagues are also a problem. The

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Speaker 1: They've never done in their life. It's a bad reward system.

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Speaker 1: I've heard this argument until I'm blow in the face

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Speaker 1: when I'll give it three years, when the generational three

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Speaker 1: You're never going to see him again, the Verlanders, the Kershaws,

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Speaker 2: My only thing is from an incentive or a punishment perspective,

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Speaker 2: How can you do it with injuries? Isn't it easier

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Speaker 1: See, it's more to do with I'm not even I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with five innings. How about that. You've never heard

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Speaker 1: just say that. Guys could never pitch over five innings

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Speaker 3: We've cut innings and pitches and everything way down every year,

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Speaker 1: This is a trainable. This is not impossible to do.

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Speaker 1: What's impossible to do is train for max velocity and

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Speaker 1: So that if we can train guys to stay healthier,

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Speaker 2: The way to buy, sell, or trade your cards is

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Speaker 5: And crats.

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Speaker 2: We love the slab pack situation because rolling through a

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Speaker 4: I was a common card. It's okay if you don't

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Speaker 2: And right now, you can get twenty percent off your

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Speaker 2: us to the last topic, which is the Brave since

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Speaker 2: they're hosting this whole thing and it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Obviously the battery is the gem of the sport.

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Speaker 2: Really for owners who want to create something like this,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what are you seeing that's wrong with them this?

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Speaker 1: The thing about the Braves, you couldn't ask for a worse,

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Speaker 1: And is it a model to live by. No, But

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Speaker 5: Last one in that division. You like the Metal the

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Speaker 1: I said from the whole part of the season. This

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Speaker 1: To me, this is the streakiest. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Not the way I'm impressed with the jim nasium that

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Speaker 1: That's why we're not good putters and golf.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, we know him.

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Speaker 4: It's worked with me quite a bit. I would I

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Speaker 4: guys have run through here in Atlanta. Where do you

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Speaker 1: I don't drink, so that they're not going to buy

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Speaker 1: me too many drinks. Pay for your time. I would say,

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Speaker 1: as much as this pains me. And he's a neighbor,

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Speaker 1: and I play golf with him, and I really don't

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Speaker 1: like making him feel even bigger than he is. Chipper

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Speaker 1: Jones probably is one. He's He's yeah, okay, then are

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Speaker 1: you second? I don't know if I'm second. I like

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Speaker 1: to think I'm in the top three or four of

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Speaker 1: the guys that live here. But if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: everybody coming back that don't live here, then that changes.

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Speaker 5: Like nineties braves you're talking about, I'm talking about nineties braves.

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Speaker 1: But I also have to throw in Frank cor Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know you're going to say Frank Corn. I was like, SEEZ,

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Speaker 3: don't say that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to say. Here's how it works now,

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Speaker 1: and we all get there. If I go to a

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Speaker 1: convenience store or gas station and there's a young person

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Speaker 1: working behind the counter and there's an older gentleman behind

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Speaker 1: me freaking out, the young person goes, why is the

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Speaker 1: older gentleman freaking out? Should I know who you are?

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Speaker 1: I said, how old are you? Twenty five? No, you

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Speaker 1: don't know who I get. It's twenty nine and up.

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Speaker 1: And that's even risking it. So it's generationally the older

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Speaker 1: people they they still they still kind of know the

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Speaker 1: bald head and all that, but the younger ones are like, eh, okay.

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Speaker 1: So it depends where you go in, and it completely

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Speaker 1: depends on where I go.

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Speaker 2: Right, if they're watching Fox, that that doesn't hurt. But

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Well, it's only on you know,

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Speaker 2: you're on TV for less than a minute flash. Thankfully

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Speaker 2: for me, it's only a minute.

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Speaker 3: But hey, I say this, and I had this conversation

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Speaker 3: with the Fox people yesterday. The producers love for the

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Speaker 3: live for the open, yeah right, or us, It's like,

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Speaker 3: this is the worst minute our day, right because we

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Speaker 3: put all this time in and Nope. If you ask

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Speaker 3: all these people here and you go, do you know

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Speaker 3: what the open is in a game?

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Speaker 1: They have no idea.

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Speaker 3: No, And the is the producer's lifeline.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we gotta nail the open.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, nobody, nobody's turning on or off the

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Speaker 3: game because of what you say in the open exactly.

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Speaker 3: They think that everyone know you have to talk about

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Speaker 3: the stars, which is great, but that's it opens over Jagg.

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Speaker 1: It comes off.

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Speaker 5: That's because you can script that.

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Speaker 6: I remember when I just to do games with Faulty

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Speaker 6: and like you would talk more in the production meeting

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Speaker 6: or just as much about the open as you would

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Speaker 6: about the game itself, which is the three hours after

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Speaker 6: that and I started to change my tone.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, let's just chat for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: That's really what it's about. Even if you make a mistake,

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to be perfect. I'm like, hey, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: live TV. It happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But the but where the open becomes, to your point,

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Speaker 1: where the producers really love it is when whatever you

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Speaker 1: speak in the open happens immediately in the game and

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Speaker 1: then you can earlier we talked about and but you're right,

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Speaker 1: like it's a flash, it goes by and you just

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Speaker 1: hope you don't fumble too many things, give you.

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Speaker 2: A strategy, and something happens in the game that that's

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Speaker 2: the producer's year, that is their year, so you have

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Speaker 2: to play into that. But it's folty, good to see you,

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping. Good set up, guys. Yeah, we'll can

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Speaker 2: see you guys in August too. We are Yes, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that. I'm very excited about that in August. Yes,

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Speaker 2: some big news that we'll announce sooner. H m hm