WEBVTT - Did POTUS Say Peggy Or Piggy? Believe Him.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. Sit is Thursday, November the twentieth, and

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<v Speaker 1>the next great debate on the Internet is going on

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. The question did he say Piggy or

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy with that? Welcome to this episode of Amy and

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<v Speaker 1>TJ in Episode I Didn't even want to do was

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<v Speaker 1>not on my radar. Rops, I give you credit. Say hey, all,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going on and people are talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a couple of days ago. It's over. We

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<v Speaker 1>know he said, Piggy, what's the big deal? And sure enough, rollops.

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<v Speaker 1>I look on Twitter and it's the number one trending

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<v Speaker 1>topic as we are recording. Peggy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's interesting because he said this went on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend, on the plane over the weekend. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a reporter you couldn't see her in the

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<v Speaker 2>video who asked him a question about Epstein.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of know now he.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really like it when reporters ask him about why

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't released the Epstein files, YadA, YadA, YadA, And

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<v Speaker 2>so he clearly says quiet, quiet, Piggy, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear him say? It wasn't a okay? And

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<v Speaker 1>we had a moment. We looked at it but there

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<v Speaker 1>was no debate at the time. If you watch the video,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not wondering did he say something else? Nod you

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<v Speaker 1>hear him say in context of what was happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, even.

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<v Speaker 2>He was angry and you could tell he was angry,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't He pointed a finger too. He was

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<v Speaker 2>pissed off, and he called a female reporter piggy while

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<v Speaker 2>telling her to be quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>And we went back and forth about it at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that any other president would be forced to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and give an apology, would be taken to task

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<v Speaker 1>over this, and we got to a point where used

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<v Speaker 1>to certain things with this president that he said this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we kind of moved on, didn't miss a beat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Robes earlier this week, a debate got going.

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<v Speaker 1>People were wondering, wait a second, did he say Peggy

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<v Speaker 1>because the reporter's name might be Peggy. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was what folks are trying to do, who

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<v Speaker 2>are coming to the defense of the president didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that he said what he said. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they actually pieced together a female reporter from Bloomberg because

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<v Speaker 2>that was what everyone was saying. It was a female

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<v Speaker 2>reporter from Bloomberg, and they're like, hey, there's a reporter

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<v Speaker 2>named Margaret Collins and she goes by Peggy, so that

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<v Speaker 2>must have been what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>He told Margaret Collins to be quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, that could make sense Bloomberg, right, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Bloomberg reporter. This woman's name is Margaret, and she

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<v Speaker 1>says in her own personal stuff she has about her

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<v Speaker 1>a bio whatnot, goes by Peggy Peggy. So wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the debate erupts into what we're used to online,

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<v Speaker 1>with the back and forth on Twitter on x from

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<v Speaker 1>the magaside and the liberals going at it over what

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<v Speaker 1>he said. And of course his supporters were saying, hey, dumbasses,

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<v Speaker 1>he said Peggy because her name is Peggy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But and in an effort I should say to

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<v Speaker 2>even try and come up with another reporter. People are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was Peggy Noonan. When's the last time Peggy

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<v Speaker 2>Noonan has been on Air Force one. She is an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing journalist and columnist and analysts political She's not in

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<v Speaker 2>the gaggle of reporters on Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was the first name that people started floating,

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<v Speaker 1>and you immediate just like your face was just then.

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<v Speaker 2>Like come on, come on, she's the most famous Peggy journalist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that there is. So that's why people jump

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<v Speaker 2>to that conclusion. But when you get to a certain

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<v Speaker 2>place in your career, you don't You're not jumping on

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force one. So that was it was not Peggy

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<v Speaker 2>Noonan okay, And it doesn't look as though it was

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<v Speaker 2>Peggy Collins either.

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy Collins No, Peggy Collins was not on the plane either,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been at least confirmed through Bloomberg, but online

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<v Speaker 1>at least ropes. The debate continued. Now, I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>debate was dying down again until this morning. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't that way when I first woke up,

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<v Speaker 1>but then over the past hour or so, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as we are recording this, Peggy is trending number one.

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<v Speaker 1>You go in and you dig a little deeper and

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<v Speaker 1>you see why. And I guess some people feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they have now been validated and it's been confirmed because

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<v Speaker 1>they got an answer from AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Grock is being very vocal today on X Grock says

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<v Speaker 2>when someone said Grock, did Trump call a reporter Piggy

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<v Speaker 2>or Peggy? Grock responds it was Peggy, referring to Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 2>reporter Peggy Collins by name. Audio from the Exchange clearly

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<v Speaker 2>supports this over the distorted piggy spin pushed by outlets

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<v Speaker 2>eager to paint Trump as crude. Media bias often amplifies

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<v Speaker 2>ambiguities to smear.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen closely yourself. That was demonstrative. There was no room

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<v Speaker 3>for error, There was no gray area.

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<v Speaker 2>There was we think it might be they were actually

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<v Speaker 2>well Grok I say they Grock not only said emphatically

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<v Speaker 2>that it was Peggy, but then went on to smear

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<v Speaker 2>the media for trying to smear President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so a lot of people will take that as evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's proof. We got it confirmed. So they took that

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<v Speaker 1>and ran with it and looked. We know debates can

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<v Speaker 1>get nasty online, but it just over this one. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems crazy how much on each side people are passionate

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<v Speaker 1>in this debate, and the side of people who think

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<v Speaker 1>they know what they're they think they're one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>right on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bizarre because even Grox says tells and instructs folks

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<v Speaker 2>who were reading what it had to say to go

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the audio. Yes, we would encourage all of

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<v Speaker 2>you listening now, if you haven't already listened to the audio,

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<v Speaker 2>please listen for yourself. It isn't debatable. He clearly says Piggy.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not say Peggy. And we now believe there

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<v Speaker 2>was no one on the plane that goes by the name.

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<v Speaker 1>Peggy, Nobody on stand, nobody, nobody in secret service. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no on the plane. But isn't it wild how these

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<v Speaker 1>things get going to wear in politics?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Rodes we don't even believe what we actually hear. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all looking at and seeing and hearing the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and for whatever reason, because of where we are, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to fight about it. Can't we just all agree

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<v Speaker 1>he called the woman Peggy. Okay, you can debate about

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<v Speaker 1>whether that was okay or not. We shouldn't be debating

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<v Speaker 1>about what he saw that. So reality gets distorted all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>See, And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And when AI gets involved, then it's not believed because

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<v Speaker 2>people say, oh, the audio was distorted, they did something

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<v Speaker 2>to the audio. No one even believes what they're hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't believe video that they're watching. And then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got actual AI chat Bock bought things whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call them, rock, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all very confusing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But now they're weighing in and they're supplying and providing misinformation.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, it is incredibly difficult to know whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not to even trust what you're seeing and hearing because

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<v Speaker 2>things can be manipulated now in so many different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, the folks who were there on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>said they heard what they heard, so I actually would

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<v Speaker 2>believe them, even maybe before I believe a video at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, because things do get changed and distorted, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not an AI video that was spiced together

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<v Speaker 1>on It was not. No, this is the gaggle. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Now, this back and forth has continued, but

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<v Speaker 1>lo and behold, we do actually have robes a definitive

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<v Speaker 1>answer about whether or not he said Piggy or Peggy.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that in just a second, but a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of this story, the Piggy Peggy story,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a rough week, if you will, for female

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<v Speaker 1>reporters covering this president. We mentioned this incident, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was brutal what we saw him do to

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Bruce, ABC correspondent in the Oval office. He and

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<v Speaker 1>again those two things combined, it just it highlights his

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<v Speaker 1>treatment of the press corps and in particular women this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Female reporters this week, Mary Bruce just we can speak

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<v Speaker 2>to her personally and professionally, is one of the kindest, sweetest, nicest,

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<v Speaker 2>most professional journalists I have ever worked alongside. She is

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<v Speaker 2>not snarky, sarcastic. She doesn't approach things with an agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Never have seen that ever. So I do find it

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<v Speaker 2>always so ironic when you have Trump who is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>using bullying words and being completely disrespectful and atrocious and

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<v Speaker 2>not acting presidential in front of cameras, in front of

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<v Speaker 2>world leaders, and calling her out for being mean, calling

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<v Speaker 2>her out for being disrespipt respectful. Well, he's being as

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<v Speaker 2>disrespectful as it gets there it was, and there's zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Respect on either side. It's just it's difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult to see these female reporters being treated this

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<v Speaker 2>way in front of cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>He does not care who hears, he does not care

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<v Speaker 3>how it looks. He just says what he wants and says,

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<v Speaker 3>get over it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a tough, uncomfortable, awkward scene. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>was very, very uncomfortable how he spoke to Mary Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the Saudi Crown Prince room full of

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<v Speaker 1>reporters and calling her a terrible person, a terrible reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, don't mind the question, but it's your attitude

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<v Speaker 1>and your meanness. And this went on for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes with her. So that was a that was

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<v Speaker 1>an ugly scene combined with this now which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>had died down, this Piggy Peggy thing and we had

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<v Speaker 1>moved on. But it's not over yet. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>folks have the answer as to whether or not he

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<v Speaker 1>said pig or Peggy, And we're getting the answer from

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. Stay here, you'll hear their short statement

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<v Speaker 1>about what the President said on the plane. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>have you figured it out yet? Piggy or Peggy? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you say? Well, everybody has something to say about this,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, rogue, did you ever have a moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you did pause and go, wait a minute, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>did say Peggy.

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<v Speaker 2>I did for a second think, you know what if

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<v Speaker 2>the reporter's name was Peggy who he was speaking to,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it slipped and maybe he and I would think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he made a joke about her name, or took

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<v Speaker 2>her name and used it to make it be a negative,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would have felt a little less.

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<v Speaker 3>It still would have been tough, a little less. No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I take it back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was rude and terrible, regardless of whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>her name was Peggy or not.

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<v Speaker 3>He clearly said peggy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he could have also if he's said quiet that

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<v Speaker 1>you could have argued that still would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>little rude. But he didn't tell the shut the hell up.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, The whole point is piggy or peggy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone, of course, finally asked the White House about this,

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<v Speaker 1>about what the president actually said. They did have a response, Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was short, to the point I was shocked by it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was almost embarrassed that I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I know, so the White House said this about

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<v Speaker 2>the incident. This reporter behaved in an inappropriate and unprofessional

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<v Speaker 2>way towards her colleagues on the plane. If you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to give it, you have to be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>so confirming. He called her piggy and meant it and

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<v Speaker 2>stands by it.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't push back at all about didn't give any question. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to be able to take with the president

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<v Speaker 1>dishes out. And if it would have been Peggy, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have said such a thing. That's they They found

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<v Speaker 1>a way to justify calling a woman a pig. That

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<v Speaker 1>is fairly incredible. But it's exactly what they did in

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<v Speaker 1>that statement. Hey yeah, and I can love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. This young lady hasn't come out and said anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual reporter, her network, Bloomberg, they put out a

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<v Speaker 1>statement essentially saying we're not getting involved in this. Our

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<v Speaker 1>reporters are doing vital work and they'll continue to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>and moved on. So they didn't amplify this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So the actual reporter's name is Catherine Lucy and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>not anywhere close to Peggy, but I found it interesting

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<v Speaker 2>she did not She has not spoken, she has not

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<v Speaker 2>said anything. Bloomberg definitely tried to skirt the issue, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play into it, didn't jump on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder our media outlets concerned about taking him on,

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<v Speaker 2>about calling him out, about making a.

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<v Speaker 3>A stink and saying, hey, I deserve an apology.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they not even want to go there because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to poke the bear.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't. What's the They did

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<v Speaker 1>probably the right thing. We have a job to do

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to keep doing it. They didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>any personal shot. We don't care what comes at us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care what the president called. Nope, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything. And I keep going back that. I always

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<v Speaker 1>remember that Michelle Obama line, when they go low, we

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<v Speaker 1>go high. And so they took the high road in

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<v Speaker 1>probably the safe road. By why even why why get

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<v Speaker 1>into a fight with him, You're gonna lose it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and no, I haven't heard anyone come out and

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<v Speaker 2>call him out on this in any significant way.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I was just read.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to find anyone who commented on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a Republican congresswoman, Maria Elvira Salazar. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you hear what she said about when he was When

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<v Speaker 2>she was asked about the miss Piggie.

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<v Speaker 3>Comment, she said that Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked picturesque as he scolded the journalist and then said,

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<v Speaker 2>no one is perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's acknowledging what he made a mistake by calling

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<v Speaker 1>her that.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently she found a way to not really say anything

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<v Speaker 2>and to not really go to negative but acknowledging that

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<v Speaker 2>no one is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, that would be.

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<v Speaker 2>You could infer that she's saying that was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she called him picturesque. What it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>Emperor has no clothes. Everyone's so afraid to say what

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<v Speaker 2>they actually really think, including Bloomberg, including Republican women who

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<v Speaker 2>heard what he said and can't possibly think that's an

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<v Speaker 2>okay thing to say to a female reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it is okay, And I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>concern should be when the White House justifies calling a

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<v Speaker 1>woman a pig, A congresswoman right can justify it doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>It just blurs the lines, and it gives permission to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else out there, yes, to do the same to people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to do it if you can justify it

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<v Speaker 1>if they were behaving badly in your eyes. I just

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<v Speaker 1>hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just not a lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>I want our kids to be hearing and seeing either. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the congressman went on to say. She said, I always

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<v Speaker 2>say that I look at his policies and not his personality.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we're just going to ignore all bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, as long as we like the policy, she can

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<v Speaker 3>separate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't care what he did over there, puts America first,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to make America great. This is fascinating. I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this will finally be over and be done. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the White House itself, folks, has come out and confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>what the President said. And this entire time we have

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this episode, Peggy is still the number one

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<v Speaker 1>dreading topic on x SO folks. For my dear Hamy

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<v Speaker 1>Robot K TJ. Holmes, we will be talking to Yell

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<v Speaker 1>soon