Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. Sit is Thursday, November the twentieth, and
Speaker 1: the next great debate on the Internet is going on
Speaker 1: as we speak. The question did he say Piggy or
Speaker 1: Peggy with that? Welcome to this episode of Amy and
Speaker 1: TJ in Episode I Didn't even want to do was
Speaker 1: not on my radar. Rops, I give you credit. Say hey, all,
Speaker 1: this is going on and people are talking about it.
Speaker 1: I was a couple of days ago. It's over. We
Speaker 1: know he said, Piggy, what's the big deal? And sure enough, rollops.
Speaker 1: I look on Twitter and it's the number one trending
Speaker 1: topic as we are recording. Peggy.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's interesting because he said this went on Friday
Speaker 2: over the weekend, on the plane over the weekend. Basically,
Speaker 2: there was a reporter you couldn't see her in the
Speaker 2: video who asked him a question about Epstein.
Speaker 3: We kind of know now he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't really like it when reporters ask him about why
Speaker 2: he hasn't released the Epstein files, YadA, YadA, YadA, And
Speaker 2: so he clearly says quiet, quiet, Piggy, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you hear him say? It wasn't a okay? And
Speaker 1: we had a moment. We looked at it but there
Speaker 1: was no debate at the time. If you watch the video,
Speaker 1: you're not wondering did he say something else? Nod you
Speaker 1: hear him say in context of what was happening in
Speaker 1: the moment, even.
Speaker 2: He was angry and you could tell he was angry,
Speaker 2: and he didn't He pointed a finger too. He was
Speaker 2: pissed off, and he called a female reporter piggy while
Speaker 2: telling her to be quiet.
Speaker 1: And we went back and forth about it at the
Speaker 1: time that any other president would be forced to come
Speaker 1: out and give an apology, would be taken to task
Speaker 1: over this, and we got to a point where used
Speaker 1: to certain things with this president that he said this,
Speaker 1: and we kind of moved on, didn't miss a beat,
Speaker 1: and then Robes earlier this week, a debate got going.
Speaker 1: People were wondering, wait a second, did he say Peggy
Speaker 1: because the reporter's name might be Peggy. I didn't think
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: So that was what folks are trying to do, who
Speaker 2: are coming to the defense of the president didn't want
Speaker 2: to believe that he said what he said. So yes,
Speaker 2: they actually pieced together a female reporter from Bloomberg because
Speaker 2: that was what everyone was saying. It was a female
Speaker 2: reporter from Bloomberg, and they're like, hey, there's a reporter
Speaker 2: named Margaret Collins and she goes by Peggy, so that
Speaker 2: must have been what he said.
Speaker 3: He told Margaret Collins to be quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, that could make sense Bloomberg, right, it was
Speaker 1: a Bloomberg reporter. This woman's name is Margaret, and she
Speaker 1: says in her own personal stuff she has about her
Speaker 1: a bio whatnot, goes by Peggy Peggy. So wait a minute.
Speaker 1: So then the debate erupts into what we're used to online,
Speaker 1: with the back and forth on Twitter on x from
Speaker 1: the magaside and the liberals going at it over what
Speaker 1: he said. And of course his supporters were saying, hey, dumbasses,
Speaker 1: he said Peggy because her name is Peggy.
Speaker 2: Right, But and in an effort I should say to
Speaker 2: even try and come up with another reporter. People are saying,
Speaker 2: maybe it was Peggy Noonan. When's the last time Peggy
Speaker 2: Noonan has been on Air Force one. She is an
Speaker 2: amazing journalist and columnist and analysts political She's not in
Speaker 2: the gaggle of reporters on Air Force one.
Speaker 1: I think she was the first name that people started floating,
Speaker 1: and you immediate just like your face was just then.
Speaker 2: Like come on, come on, she's the most famous Peggy journalist.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there is. So that's why people jump
Speaker 2: to that conclusion. But when you get to a certain
Speaker 2: place in your career, you don't You're not jumping on
Speaker 2: Air Force one. So that was it was not Peggy
Speaker 2: Noonan okay, And it doesn't look as though it was
Speaker 2: Peggy Collins either.
Speaker 1: Peggy Collins No, Peggy Collins was not on the plane either,
Speaker 1: which has been at least confirmed through Bloomberg, but online
Speaker 1: at least ropes. The debate continued. Now, I thought the
Speaker 1: debate was dying down again until this morning. I'm looking
Speaker 1: and it wasn't that way when I first woke up,
Speaker 1: but then over the past hour or so, and yes,
Speaker 1: as we are recording this, Peggy is trending number one.
Speaker 1: You go in and you dig a little deeper and
Speaker 1: you see why. And I guess some people feel like
Speaker 1: they have now been validated and it's been confirmed because
Speaker 1: they got an answer from AI.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Grock is being very vocal today on X Grock says
Speaker 2: when someone said Grock, did Trump call a reporter Piggy
Speaker 2: or Peggy? Grock responds it was Peggy, referring to Bloomberg
Speaker 2: reporter Peggy Collins by name. Audio from the Exchange clearly
Speaker 2: supports this over the distorted piggy spin pushed by outlets
Speaker 2: eager to paint Trump as crude. Media bias often amplifies
Speaker 2: ambiguities to smear.
Speaker 3: Listen closely yourself. That was demonstrative. There was no room
Speaker 3: for error, There was no gray area.
Speaker 2: There was we think it might be they were actually
Speaker 2: well Grok I say they Grock not only said emphatically
Speaker 2: that it was Peggy, but then went on to smear
Speaker 2: the media for trying to smear President Trump.
Speaker 1: Okay, so a lot of people will take that as evidence.
Speaker 1: That's proof. We got it confirmed. So they took that
Speaker 1: and ran with it and looked. We know debates can
Speaker 1: get nasty online, but it just over this one. It
Speaker 1: seems crazy how much on each side people are passionate
Speaker 1: in this debate, and the side of people who think
Speaker 1: they know what they're they think they're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: right on both sides.
Speaker 2: It's bizarre because even Grox says tells and instructs folks
Speaker 2: who were reading what it had to say to go
Speaker 2: listen to the audio. Yes, we would encourage all of
Speaker 2: you listening now, if you haven't already listened to the audio,
Speaker 2: please listen for yourself. It isn't debatable. He clearly says Piggy.
Speaker 2: He does not say Peggy. And we now believe there
Speaker 2: was no one on the plane that goes by the name.
Speaker 1: Peggy, Nobody on stand, nobody, nobody in secret service. There's
Speaker 1: no on the plane. But isn't it wild how these
Speaker 1: things get going to wear in politics?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Rodes we don't even believe what we actually hear. We're
Speaker 1: all looking at and seeing and hearing the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, because of where we are, we
Speaker 1: have to fight about it. Can't we just all agree
Speaker 1: he called the woman Peggy. Okay, you can debate about
Speaker 1: whether that was okay or not. We shouldn't be debating
Speaker 1: about what he saw that. So reality gets distorted all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: See, And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And when AI gets involved, then it's not believed because
Speaker 2: people say, oh, the audio was distorted, they did something
Speaker 2: to the audio. No one even believes what they're hearing.
Speaker 2: They don't believe video that they're watching. And then you've
Speaker 2: got actual AI chat Bock bought things whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call them, rock, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: It's all very confusing to me.
Speaker 2: But now they're weighing in and they're supplying and providing misinformation.
Speaker 2: So yes, it is incredibly difficult to know whether or
Speaker 2: not to even trust what you're seeing and hearing because
Speaker 2: things can be manipulated now in so many different ways.
Speaker 2: So look, the folks who were there on the plane
Speaker 2: said they heard what they heard, so I actually would
Speaker 2: believe them, even maybe before I believe a video at
Speaker 2: this point, because things do get changed and distorted, and
Speaker 2: it's confusing.
Speaker 1: This was not an AI video that was spiced together
Speaker 1: on It was not. No, this is the gaggle. Everybody
Speaker 1: was there. Now, this back and forth has continued, but
Speaker 1: lo and behold, we do actually have robes a definitive
Speaker 1: answer about whether or not he said Piggy or Peggy.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that in just a second, but a reminder,
Speaker 1: as a part of this story, the Piggy Peggy story,
Speaker 1: this was a rough week, if you will, for female
Speaker 1: reporters covering this president. We mentioned this incident, of course,
Speaker 1: but that was brutal what we saw him do to
Speaker 1: Mary Bruce, ABC correspondent in the Oval office. He and
Speaker 1: again those two things combined, it just it highlights his
Speaker 1: treatment of the press corps and in particular women this week.
Speaker 2: Female reporters this week, Mary Bruce just we can speak
Speaker 2: to her personally and professionally, is one of the kindest, sweetest, nicest,
Speaker 2: most professional journalists I have ever worked alongside. She is
Speaker 2: not snarky, sarcastic. She doesn't approach things with an agenda.
Speaker 2: Never have seen that ever. So I do find it
Speaker 2: always so ironic when you have Trump who is clearly
Speaker 2: using bullying words and being completely disrespectful and atrocious and
Speaker 2: not acting presidential in front of cameras, in front of
Speaker 2: world leaders, and calling her out for being mean, calling
Speaker 2: her out for being disrespipt respectful. Well, he's being as
Speaker 2: disrespectful as it gets there it was, and there's zero.
Speaker 3: Respect on either side. It's just it's difficult.
Speaker 2: It's difficult to see these female reporters being treated this
Speaker 2: way in front of cameras.
Speaker 3: He does not care who hears, he does not care
Speaker 3: how it looks. He just says what he wants and says,
Speaker 3: get over it.
Speaker 1: That was a tough, uncomfortable, awkward scene. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was very, very uncomfortable how he spoke to Mary Bruce
Speaker 1: in front of the Saudi Crown Prince room full of
Speaker 1: reporters and calling her a terrible person, a terrible reporter,
Speaker 1: just saying, don't mind the question, but it's your attitude
Speaker 1: and your meanness. And this went on for a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes with her. So that was a that was
Speaker 1: an ugly scene combined with this now which I thought
Speaker 1: had died down, this Piggy Peggy thing and we had
Speaker 1: moved on. But it's not over yet. But we do
Speaker 1: folks have the answer as to whether or not he
Speaker 1: said pig or Peggy, And we're getting the answer from
Speaker 1: the White House. Stay here, you'll hear their short statement
Speaker 1: about what the President said on the plane. All right, folks,
Speaker 1: have you figured it out yet? Piggy or Peggy? What
Speaker 1: do you say? Well, everybody has something to say about this,
Speaker 1: right now, rogue, did you ever have a moment where
Speaker 1: you did pause and go, wait a minute, maybe he
Speaker 1: did say Peggy.
Speaker 2: I did for a second think, you know what if
Speaker 2: the reporter's name was Peggy who he was speaking to,
Speaker 2: maybe it slipped and maybe he and I would think
Speaker 2: maybe he made a joke about her name, or took
Speaker 2: her name and used it to make it be a negative,
Speaker 2: so it would have felt a little less.
Speaker 3: It still would have been tough, a little less. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I take it back.
Speaker 2: It was rude and terrible, regardless of whether or not
Speaker 2: her name was Peggy or not.
Speaker 3: He clearly said peggy.
Speaker 1: Well he could have also if he's said quiet that
Speaker 1: you could have argued that still would have been a
Speaker 1: little rude. But he didn't tell the shut the hell up.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Fine, The whole point is piggy or peggy.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Someone, of course, finally asked the White House about this,
Speaker 1: about what the president actually said. They did have a response, Robes.
Speaker 1: It was short, to the point I was shocked by it,
Speaker 1: and then I was almost embarrassed that I was surprised
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: Right, I know, so the White House said this about
Speaker 2: the incident. This reporter behaved in an inappropriate and unprofessional
Speaker 2: way towards her colleagues on the plane. If you're going
Speaker 2: to give it, you have to be able to take
Speaker 2: so confirming. He called her piggy and meant it and
Speaker 2: stands by it.
Speaker 1: Didn't push back at all about didn't give any question. Yep,
Speaker 1: she needs to be able to take with the president
Speaker 1: dishes out. And if it would have been Peggy, they
Speaker 1: would have said such a thing. That's they They found
Speaker 1: a way to justify calling a woman a pig. That
Speaker 1: is fairly incredible. But it's exactly what they did in
Speaker 1: that statement. Hey yeah, and I can love it. I
Speaker 1: hate it. This young lady hasn't come out and said anything.
Speaker 1: The actual reporter, her network, Bloomberg, they put out a
Speaker 1: statement essentially saying we're not getting involved in this. Our
Speaker 1: reporters are doing vital work and they'll continue to do so,
Speaker 1: and moved on. So they didn't amplify this.
Speaker 3: That's interesting to me.
Speaker 2: So the actual reporter's name is Catherine Lucy and obviously
Speaker 2: not anywhere close to Peggy, but I found it interesting
Speaker 2: she did not She has not spoken, she has not
Speaker 2: said anything. Bloomberg definitely tried to skirt the issue, didn't
Speaker 2: want to play into it, didn't jump on it. And
Speaker 2: I wonder our media outlets concerned about taking him on,
Speaker 2: about calling him out, about making a.
Speaker 3: A stink and saying, hey, I deserve an apology.
Speaker 2: Do they not even want to go there because they
Speaker 2: don't want to poke the bear.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't. What's the They did
Speaker 1: probably the right thing. We have a job to do
Speaker 1: and we're going to keep doing it. They didn't take
Speaker 1: any personal shot. We don't care what comes at us.
Speaker 1: We don't care what the president called. Nope, they didn't
Speaker 1: say anything. And I keep going back that. I always
Speaker 1: remember that Michelle Obama line, when they go low, we
Speaker 1: go high. And so they took the high road in
Speaker 1: probably the safe road. By why even why why get
Speaker 1: into a fight with him, You're gonna lose it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no, I haven't heard anyone come out and
Speaker 2: call him out on this in any significant way.
Speaker 3: In fact, I was just read.
Speaker 2: I was trying to find anyone who commented on it,
Speaker 2: and there was a Republican congresswoman, Maria Elvira Salazar. Did
Speaker 2: you hear what she said about when he was When
Speaker 2: she was asked about the miss Piggie.
Speaker 3: Comment, she said that Trump.
Speaker 2: Looked picturesque as he scolded the journalist and then said,
Speaker 2: no one is perfect.
Speaker 1: So she's acknowledging what he made a mistake by calling
Speaker 1: her that.
Speaker 2: Apparently she found a way to not really say anything
Speaker 2: and to not really go to negative but acknowledging that
Speaker 2: no one is perfect.
Speaker 3: So yes, that would be.
Speaker 2: You could infer that she's saying that was a mistake.
Speaker 2: But then she called him picturesque. What it's like the
Speaker 2: Emperor has no clothes. Everyone's so afraid to say what
Speaker 2: they actually really think, including Bloomberg, including Republican women who
Speaker 2: heard what he said and can't possibly think that's an
Speaker 2: okay thing to say to a female reporter.
Speaker 1: Apparently it is okay, And I don't know what the
Speaker 1: concern should be when the White House justifies calling a
Speaker 1: woman a pig, A congresswoman right can justify it doing so.
Speaker 1: It just blurs the lines, and it gives permission to
Speaker 1: everybody else out there, yes, to do the same to people.
Speaker 1: It's okay to do it if you can justify it
Speaker 1: if they were behaving badly in your eyes. I just
Speaker 1: hate that.
Speaker 3: That's just not a lesson.
Speaker 2: I want our kids to be hearing and seeing either. Yes,
Speaker 2: the congressman went on to say. She said, I always
Speaker 2: say that I look at his policies and not his personality.
Speaker 3: So now we're just going to ignore all bad behavior.
Speaker 1: That's what she's saying.
Speaker 3: Yes, as long as we like the policy, she can
Speaker 3: separate it.
Speaker 1: Don't care what he did over there, puts America first,
Speaker 1: wants to make America great. This is fascinating. I maybe
Speaker 1: this will finally be over and be done. But yes,
Speaker 1: the White House itself, folks, has come out and confirmed
Speaker 1: what the President said. And this entire time we have
Speaker 1: been doing this episode, Peggy is still the number one
Speaker 1: dreading topic on x SO folks. For my dear Hamy
Speaker 1: Robot K TJ. Holmes, we will be talking to Yell
Speaker 1: soon