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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the Favorites the podcast. We are

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Speaker 1: Chad Moman, chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We

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Speaker 1: are ours from the draft kicking off. I am joined

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Speaker 1: as I am for every episode by my co host,

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Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, my compadre, professional Better Simon Hunter's only.

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Speaker 2: Then Hello, hot Chat. How you doing brother?

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Speaker 1: I'm extra amped today because I'm in the New York studio.

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Speaker 1: I got our cool Favorites back trap behind me. I'm

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Speaker 1: also extra YouTube today because I feel like we've said

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Speaker 1: all we can say about the draft almost do you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say it's a it's exciting day, it's a

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Speaker 3: fun day, but I told you it's just a day of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this whole week has just been chaos.

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Speaker 3: So this draft has definitely been unique, and apparently people

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Speaker 3: think they know exactly how it's gonna go. When there's

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Speaker 3: other people like us Chad that we know, we really

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Speaker 3: don't know what the hell is about to happen. So it's

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna be a fun day.

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Speaker 1: As they say in reality television, you think you know,

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Speaker 1: but you have no idea. And we've got breaking news

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Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about in one second. Before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, I want to ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Because everyone makes a big deal about the draft. Everyone

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Speaker 1: feels like the future of their franchise depends on the draft.

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Speaker 1: And there's been a really interesting debate going on as

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Speaker 1: it relates to people like Bijon Robinson, the running back

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Speaker 1: from Texas, who you have said a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have said top three player in terms of talent in

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Speaker 1: the draft, But he's a running back, So where are

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Speaker 1: you going to take him in the draft? You don't

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Speaker 1: get first round value out of running backs necessarily, unless

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Speaker 1: you are a team that you think might be one

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Speaker 1: player away. You take the running back and there could

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Speaker 1: be value in getting you to that next level. With

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Speaker 1: that said, the Eagles, some people say the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: their teams right now you're looking at in the futures, market,

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Speaker 1: who if the draft goes the way they are, the

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Speaker 1: way they want it to go, and what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: in the MOX, you think that one player could make

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Speaker 1: a difference between winning the division, not winning the division,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl not winning the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: In my head I thought you were going to talk

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Speaker 3: about Jerry Springer rest in peace to Jerry Springer. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why when he says them without Reality TV,

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Speaker 3: I thought You're gonna go to Jerry Springer. The NFL

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Speaker 3: draft is tricky, Like me and you were in media

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Speaker 3: and I'm now in media. So I try to be

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Speaker 3: positive about the NFL Draft and how important it is.

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Speaker 3: But in actuality, Chad, you know the deal. One player

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Speaker 3: does not change any team anyone. If they wont they

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Speaker 3: can reach out to me and Chad, I would love

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Speaker 3: to see the data. Has there ever been a draft

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Speaker 3: that ended up making it to a team won a

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Speaker 2: So I've had a couple of calls about the Robin thing.

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Speaker 3: I get it. I get guys. Guys are saying exactly

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Speaker 3: what Chad saying. It's just like a running back isn't

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Speaker 3: valued like that. There's no reason to take a running

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Speaker 3: back that high. When is the last running back actually,

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Speaker 3: you know, took a team to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair argument.

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Speaker 3: I mean Marshawn Lynch was the only one I could

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Speaker 3: really think of in our recent memory, right with that

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Speaker 3: incredible Seahawks defense. But that's such a unicorn situation. So

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Speaker 3: I wish it was that simple. You know, the Eagles

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Speaker 3: lost the Super Bowl by three points. Would Robinson have

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Speaker 3: changed that hard to say. I mean, Herts ran for

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Speaker 3: scheme of things is a big better. I can't see

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Speaker 2: Season, So you know, there's no there's no real unicorns

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Speaker 3: Again, if there was a Nick Bosa type, right, like

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Speaker 2: We just don't have that.

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Speaker 3: So for me, personally, I love the draft, but I

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Speaker 3: think I'm like more most professional betters right now, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't really mean much like no rookie. We talk all

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Speaker 3: never seen an offensive lineman come in and change the

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Speaker 3: whole team's franchise projectory, right. Joe Thomas one of the

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Speaker 3: a playoff game for the Browns. May he played in

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Speaker 3: one in ten years. So it's there's tons of talent here,

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Speaker 3: but it's again, it's a fifty three man roster. So

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Speaker 3: it is a fun day chat, but sadly it's it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be the reason your team wins the Super

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Speaker 1: Alabama pass rusher Will Anderson going number two to the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas, so the odds on him have dropped considerably.

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Speaker 1: It was plus money when we spoke on Tuesday, minus

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Speaker 1: him to go number two. Not surprising at all that

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Speaker 1: this is how it's shaking out. Bryce Young number one,

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson number two. This is what everybody's saying. Your take.

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Speaker 3: So dumb everything, This is so I just and this

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Speaker 3: is the first time in my life. This year I

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Speaker 3: was working with a team. So you know, I've never

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Speaker 3: done consulting work with an NFL team before, and I

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get inside look on a team. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: get some inside info. Honestly, it was a weird experience chat.

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Speaker 3: I've gained zero inside info from the team I worked with,

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Speaker 3: But I think after the draft maybe I'll talk about

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Speaker 3: it more. But I think it's one of those drafts

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Speaker 3: where I understand why the team has been so tight lipped,

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Speaker 2: Them info and they just literally threw it to the win.

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Speaker 3: They paid me, so I got money out of it,

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Speaker 3: but they didn't use my info at all. I just

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Speaker 3: I don't really get it if the Carolina thing will

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Speaker 3: never make sense to me. Carolina traded up for the

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Speaker 3: Hall of the Bears. The Bears literally got a top

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Speaker 3: ten receiver who's five years old in Dj Moore from

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Speaker 3: the Panthers. They got their draft picks, and they traded

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Speaker 3: Has a ton of red flags from a multiple different teams. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Go get Bryce Seawan Houston. Everything you read just doesn't

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Speaker 3: we don't really like Deshaan Watson, we don't really like Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: It always comes back to that quarterback position. So the

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Speaker 3: So what they do? They used him for a year.

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Speaker 3: He was terrible. They never want picked. The next year

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Speaker 3: they took Kyler Murray. That's that's how you're supposed to

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Speaker 3: they'll keep being what they are, which is going to

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Speaker 2: So doesn't really make sense.

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Speaker 3: If I was them, there's just other players I take

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Speaker 2: Pick that got up to I want to say, I checked.

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Speaker 3: to me, that's like, okay, Bryce seawng. Now that seems

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Speaker 3: Will Anderson. I still think there's an outside chance to

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Speaker 1: have two questions to start simon, one for you, one

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Speaker 1: Here's a question. Any shot Trey Lance gets traded tonight?

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's a shot it gets traded tonight.

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Speaker 3: that I talk to Again, it's no faar of his own.

433
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: Going to Ohio State, he arguably played with the best

434
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: wide receiving core we've ever seen for his entire stint

435
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 3: that he was at college. Like he literally every time

436
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: he went up there, he had on both sides a

437
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 3: number one you know, round, a number one round receiver.

438
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: So that's no knock against CJ. It's just facts where

439
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 3: you know, he's been surrounded by incredible talent his whole career.

440
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: I guess some teams are seeing that a little bit

441
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: as a flag of he wasn't as good as he's perceived,

442
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: just because he had.

443
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: That talent around him. You know, the metrics pare of

444
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: that out too.

445
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: He threw in a lot, threw into a lot of

446
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: you know, smaller windows. He took a lot more chances

447
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: than you would want to see a college kid be

448
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: taking in the sense that guys are just open to college.

449
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: We're in the pros.

450
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: That's just not so guys are not open. You have

451
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: to throw guys open the pros. We're in college. Guys

452
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: are just open. So the CJ information over these last

453
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, I just did not see me moving

454
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: him down the board, and I eventually did just because

455
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 3: of everything gets popped up. So five years from now, again,

456
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: it's all about situation you're drafted into. I still see

457
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 3: Richardson being the best prospect in this class. It's twenty

458
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 3: years old right now. I'd be twenty one on this

459
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: upcoming season. I just love his upside.

460
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 2: CJ.

461
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm still on board with the Chad, but there are

462
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: like that cognitive test is a big deal. But the

463
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: fact of this kid, what you want of football is

464
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: you don't want people thinking. You just literally want guys

465
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: out there just reacting. That's literally the best guys you

466
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: hear from Aaron Rodgers, Mahomes, they all talk about that

467
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: in football, that you're so prepared you literally go out

468
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: there you don't even think, you're just reacting to what

469
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: the defensive gives you. That's a bad deal. This kid,

470
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: he's not naturally gifted that way. Everything he does apparently

471
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: is very processed.

472
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm.

473
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: Still high in CJ. I love his body type, love

474
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 3: his arm strength. He's a great athlete, but that that

475
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: to me, is definitely a red flag of this guy

476
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: isn't naturally gifted mentally, Like he doesn't have that upstairs

477
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: what Bryce Young has tensfold.

478
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: This kid is out of this world football smart.

479
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: So you know we'll again, We'll see it's all about

480
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: the teams you land on the right coaching tree. Frank Reich,

481
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 3: please draft CJ. That would be incredible for this kid

482
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: to get one of the smarter guys, one of the

483
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: smarter QB coaches ever in football with him. I mean,

484
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: we saw what Frank did with Carson Wentz, which is

485
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: a corpse. Now that's what I think he could do

486
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: with CJ if he gets the right coach man. CJ

487
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 3: is such high upside. But once again, Chad, if he

488
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: goes to Houston, I don't know. I don't know how

489
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: great I'll be feeling about CJ's prospects going forward. But

490
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: with a guy like Frank Reich in Carolina, I would

491
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 3: love for CJ end up somewhere like that.

492
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with a couple of things you just said,

493
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: and a problem with the draft process, and why so

494
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: much of this is so fucking stupid, and why I

495
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of these guys are they look for

496
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: reasons to sound smart and it means nothing.

497
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: How dare you?

498
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had an incredible cast of talent around him.

499
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: Does he get knocked down because the talent around him

500
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: was too good? Zach Wilson, Oh, he's got all the intangibles,

501
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: but he didn't have any talent around him. Imagine what

502
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: he'll do when he gets to the NFL. He's fucking terrible,

503
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: So Trey Lance all the intangibles, he's not even playing

504
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: against good people. Imagine what he's gonna do when he's

505
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: got really good talent around him. Give me a fucking break. CJ.

506
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: Stroud was good with really good talent. There's also quarterbacks

507
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: who are bad with really good talent. And that's that

508
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: is not the quarterback's fault. The cognitive thing, I haven't

509
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: looked into it that much. I believe that's a real thing.

510
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: If it's a real thing. But the talent knock, the

511
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: body type knock, the speed knock, the Ohio State knock.

512
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: These are people looking for reasons to not like a kid.

513
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: They are not to not take a kid.

514
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: I know that's our job.

515
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: Though you're supposed to nippick, you're supposed to find your guy.

516
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: There's there's just a bunch of little things you're looking

517
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: forward to make it so the person can be off

518
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 3: your board chat. That's the honest truth, like Jalen Carter

519
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: being off of half the teams on their first you know,

520
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: half the teams don't have a first round great on

521
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter anymore. I'm with you, that's really stupid. But

522
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: that's that's literally that franchise, that's that's how they operate,

523
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Like that's how these certain teams do thinks. So I'm

524
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: agreeing with you, like I'm we're probably overthinking these things,

525
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: but that's how you're supposed to do it. Like you remember,

526
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: Chad I got a lot of shit for saying Justin Fields,

527
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: with the second best quarterback on that draft, I said

528
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: he should have been the number two pick. I bet

529
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: it that way. He felt a what you guys gotta

530
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: pick eleven? I feel like you felt way down the

531
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: board and the bear scooped them up. So we see

532
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: it every year that just people. You're right, they overthink things,

533
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: they make things that aren't true. But at the same time,

534
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: that's how we protect ourselves from the Zack Wilson types.

535
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: Like I was one of the few people that said

536
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: I had a second round right on Zach Wilson. I

537
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: just never was buying into the kids hype, So you know,

538
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have plenty of missues in life. Anthony Richardson

539
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: might be a huge miss, but that's who I have,

540
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: is my number one quarterback. I just think this kid's

541
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: upsides's insane.

542
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: All Right, We're starting to get a little bit sent

543
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: of the draft board right now. So there's a couple

544
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: moves that I think are worth us trying to say

545
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: these are the direction we would want to go for

546
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: some picks. First one, I want to look at let's say,

547
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: let's say it's Bryce Young and will Anderson, which means

548
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: that at number three, there is some serious potential action

549
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: in play, because we could get Arizona trading out, we

550
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: could get Indie trading up, we could get Tennessee trading

551
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: up at number three. Who are we taking? Who do

552
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: we think is the best bet to go number three?

553
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Right now? CJ. Stroud plus one fifty tyree Wilson plus

554
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: three hundred. There was a lot of talk before the

555
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: will Anderson news that he was going to be the

556
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: second overall pick. Who do we like at number three?

557
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Who's our best bet at number three?

558
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: C J.

559
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: Stroud still plus money there?

560
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like we heard the offensive lineman Paris Paris. Yeah,

561
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: to me, again, all those things make sense. That makes

562
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: the most sense to Arizona's They do what other teams

563
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: that are in.

564
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Their spot do, which is you trade out. Like the

565
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: four nine ers.

566
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: They gave up what you had two first round picks

567
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: to move into the third pick to.

568
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: Get Trey Lance.

569
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: Like, they gave up a lot to move up to

570
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: get Trey Lance to to pick three. That's what Arizona

571
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: I think they're holding out for right. They're trying to

572
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: make it so that they're praying Houston doesn't take aquarter

573
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: that would be huge for them. That means multiple teams

574
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: could still move up and get their guy pick three,

575
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: if they like CJ, if they like Will Levis. Like,

576
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of reasons they move up in that

577
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: pick three spot. So my gut feeling still is they

578
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: don't pick there unless the gym is a total idiot.

579
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: They don't pick there.

580
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: Just Arizona so many holes if you go through their roster,

581
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: they're one of the worst rosters on football. Even with

582
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. I think they have the second lowest odds

583
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: in the NFC. That's how you know, No one respects

584
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: the team they've built. Their general Andrew was fired, so

585
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: this is a new GM, this is his first year.

586
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: I just I'm hoping this guy is smart enough to

587
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: know you just trade back there, You just trade back,

588
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: let a team move.

589
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Up take their quarterback.

590
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: Because we hear timetime again, the Colts have just been

591
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: thrown out noise all week, right, or I'm not even

592
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: a week. All month, they've just been talking about woll

593
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: We love Will Levis. We could easily see this guy

594
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: being on our team.

595
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's just all shade, right.

596
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: They wouldn't blatantly come out and tell people exactly who

597
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: they love and who they're going to take. So clearly

598
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: the Colts are going to take a quarterback there. To me,

599
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: there's a couple of teams that make sense to trade

600
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: up there, but no other than Tennessee. Tennessee been talking

601
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: and noising about them trade up to that third spot.

602
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: Just it makes sense for Tennessee to go up draft

603
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: to get a guy, get a new quarterback, get this

604
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: thing rolling here. So to me, if you're gonna make

605
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: a bet that third spot, it makes sense right now.

606
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: On bet three six five CJ shouts is plus one one, one,

607
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty. So you know the books are

608
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: saying that CJ is going there in the third spot.

609
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: I feel like that kind of makes sense. If he

610
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: doesn't go to a team will move up and take him.

611
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: Like Chad said, a lot of teams have really high

612
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: grade on CJ. So not shocking to see him there

613
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: with that number.

614
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

615
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: I just my my favorite bet, still Chad, for first

616
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: defender had taken is still Jalen Carter. I just still

617
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: see somehow the Seahawks or Detroit taking in with that

618
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: that pick when they get to him, so you could

619
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: shop around. I've seen it twenty to one Jalen Carter

620
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: be the first defender taken just because of what you

621
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: had just talked about. Everyone's still talking about Wilson, They're

622
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: still talking about Anderson. The edge rusher is always going

623
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: to get the hype, and to me, Carter, if it

624
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: goes away, I think it's gonna go. Which is quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback,

625
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: four straight quarterbacks. I just will not be shocked if

626
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: Carter is taken there a number five by Seahawks.

627
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Well that makes it interesting, right, So let's say the

628
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: number two pick right now, Will Anderson, like we've said

629
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: minus three hundred, Yeah, this could be interesting. Right, Let's

630
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: say it's Bryce Young number one. Here's here's what I'm probably.

631
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Like, what I think?

632
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: So what Will levis I think is the guy everyone

633
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: keeps talking about for that number two pick, right well,

634
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: like yesterday or like two days ago, that's what we

635
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: were on the show talking about.

636
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, but I think that's long gone. I

637
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: think I think I think if we think it's going

638
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: to be quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, and look, we would

639
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: never reckon men. You're going full units the way you

640
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: do during the NFL season on the NFL Draft. It's

641
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be fun, right, So it's a tenth of

642
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: a unit here, a quarter of a unit there.

643
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: Like if I had a huge edge people, I would

644
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: be telling you right now, like if I knew exactly

645
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: what was going number two, Chad knows, there's no secrets here.

646
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: I already made all my bets. I would be screaming

647
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: from a mountaintop exactly who was going number two if

648
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: I exactly knew.

649
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: Who it was.

650
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: So that's one of those people knowing me well enough

651
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: to know that if I have an edge, I give

652
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: it out here, and I like Chad's about to say,

653
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: I have no idea who the hell is going at

654
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: number two?

655
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: So the number two, I think, if it's fun to

656
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: do it that way, you do price Young number one,

657
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: you do, I would do CJ. Stroud number two at

658
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: plus six hundred. You could also do Will Levis number

659
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: two at plus six hundred. Then you could do then

660
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: you could do Levis and CJ. Stroud at number three.

661
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: You could do CJ at plus one fifty, and you

662
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: could do Levis at plus eight hundred, and then what

663
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: you can do is number four Levis at plus one

664
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: thirty and Anthony Richardson have plus three hundred. That's what

665
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I would do. It's like you put together a menu here, right,

666
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: and like at some point some of these you might

667
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: just break even on the night, which is fine. We're

668
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: not looking to get rich off the fucking draft people.

669
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: We're just looking to have a decent time before we

670
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: go to bed after the tenth pick is taken or

671
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: the ninth pick in my in my case with the Bears.

672
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: So that's what I would be doing.

673
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: And that's why I love these kind of drafts where

674
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: it's like you know, last year was kind of boring.

675
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: We had no quarterbacks like this canny pick a going

676
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: like whatever was the top twenty. It's just more fun

677
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: when there's drafts like this like that when we had

678
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: with the fields, the Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, and Trevor

679
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: Lawrence of like, you got four guys. Everyone's got different

680
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: opinions and it's all bobbled up the top there. So

681
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: once again, I just in the day and age we're

682
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: in right now, Chad, I just can't see quarterbacks drop.

683
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 3: It's not like it used to be where quarterbacks would slide.

684
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: It's just not like that anymore. Teams usually are aggressive

685
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: and move up to get their guy, which once again,

686
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: will never make sense the whole Lamar Jackson thing. Like

687
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: these teams are killing each other, step on each other's heads,

688
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: they move up in the draft and get their picks.

689
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Why not just.

690
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: Go out there and get Lamar a guy he already

691
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: knows established and he's like the same age as most

692
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: of these guys being drafted.

693
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: Lamore is twenty five, twenty six years old.

694
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's a tricky time a year, Chack,

695
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: because I'm getting so much information, so much of it's

696
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: just pure bs.

697
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Another question coming in, and by the way, I think

698
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: I deserve a little bit of credit. What did I

699
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: say last year? There's no way a quarterback going to

700
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: be taken in the top ten? Malik Wilson isn't the answer?

701
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: Can you Pickett isn't the answer? There was all these rumblings.

702
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I know, I think I said there might not even

703
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: be a quarterback. There won't be more than one quarterback

704
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: taken in the first round. And I was right because

705
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: I said it was just going to be Kenny Pickett.

706
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm saying this year, and I said it

707
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: last week over I said it on Tuesday over four

708
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: and a half quarterbacks taken in the first round. I

709
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: am a firm believer Hendon Hooker will sleep, will sneak

710
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: into the bottom of the first round. Some team who's

711
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: going to take a flyer on Hendon Hooker. You've seen

712
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. These things are not by accident,

713
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker putting out videos of him practicing dropping back,

714
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: showing that his knee is okay. That's not oh hey,

715
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: it's Hendon Hooker. I'm looking to improve my draft status,

716
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Like there's messaging there hendon Hooker's going in the first round.

717
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: Over from to be shocked.

718
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: I think Chad is down the head to him putting

719
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: out that video his agent. That was really smart, him

720
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: putting weight on that leg. I think he got the

721
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: surgery in December, so he's really well on track right

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: now in his recovery.

723
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: The Hooker thing will never make sense.

724
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: He played one year and one year had a one

725
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: good season at pass happy offense. And I don't know, Chad.

726
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: Maybe a team does fall in love with him and

727
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: move up. But I keep going back to our friend

728
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: Matthew Frieman told us about where if you statistically, if

729
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: you get three quarterbacks drafted on the top ten, statistically

730
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: the over four and a half is hit.

731
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: I think three out of four times it's happened.

732
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: So basically, Chad's gonna know pretty early on if he's

733
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: gonna if he's got a good better or not, because

734
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 3: if you three three quarterbacks go on the top ten,

735
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: that most likely means, you know, say, Athany Richardson is

736
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: the guy that drops, or will loves is the guy

737
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: that drops. A team will move up and take that guy.

738
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: Some teams I've heard a link to Will loves is

739
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: the Patriots. I think they picked fourteen maybe. Yeah, So

740
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: there's just different teams that could move up. The Hooker

741
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: thing makes sense in the sense that we've seen multiple

742
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: teams talk about the end of the first round taking him.

743
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: The one that jumped off right away was the the Rams.

744
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 3: Stafford's got these major back issues. You'll never you don't

745
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: know if he'll ever be right ever again. Even his

746
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: wife's talked about it, where he's had a bunch of

747
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: surgeries on his back now at this point because he

748
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: got beat up in Detroit. We all remember Stafford in Detroit. Yeah,

749
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: just a pinata. So I didn't believe it.

750
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying again. I'm trying to be a rational guy here.

751
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: You got to throw out being rational in the draft.

752
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: It's just teams will meet with players and they'll fall

753
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: in love, say they kind of like the guy on tape.

754
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: If they meet with them, they're just like, holy shit,

755
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: this guy's got the vibe like this guy is a

756
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: leader of men. We want him to be the leader

757
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 3: of this team that can make Hooker a first round pick.

758
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: And we always talked about that fifth year option of

759
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: quarterbacks a big deal. Who screwed it up last year?

760
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: Was it the Yeah, I think it was the Giants.

761
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: They didn't sign Daniel Jones to a fifth year just

762
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: because he had struggled. Now they have to pay him

763
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: what was it, eighty million over four years or something

764
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: crazy like that. So you know, I'm looking at this

765
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: as Okay, I don't believe in Hooker, but the market does.

766
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: I didn't touch this number. I think Chad gave it

767
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: out and it was minus like one forty. Maybe it's

768
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: gone up even more now. People are really pounding the

769
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: over four and a half quarterbacks take. And my biggest

770
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: bet still was the over one and a half running

771
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: backs take. And I just Gipson to me the Alabama kid,

772
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: like we already talked about.

773
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: I see a bunch of.

774
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: Picks into the first round, the Eagles, the Lions, the Bengals,

775
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of different teams that could take a running

776
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: back into the first round. Same thing goes with quarterbacks,

777
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: like you know, the Ravens trading back in and take

778
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: a little more pick thirty two. I really did not

779
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: see that coming that year in that draft. Kind of

780
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: in the same spot here with Hooker, like I've seen

781
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: the vikings linked to this kid. So there's a bunch

782
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: of different teams that you would be shocked to see

783
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: move up because they already have a quarterback. But it

784
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: would not be shocking in me or Chad, just because

785
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: we've seen it time and time again in the NFL.

786
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 3: Teams move up and take quarterbacks if they believe in them.

787
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: So it's which I want to make fun of your pick, Chad.

788
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: It's looking like a smart bet here taking the over

789
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: four and a half. It's just not a bet I

790
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: would make.

791
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Milman has had really a lot of has had a

792
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: lot of smart bets. The last couple of shows. He's

793
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: fading the Jets fe d e fath faite fait and

794
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: he's he spotted that over four and a half for

795
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the first round. Another question that just

796
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: came in Bjeon Robinson. Do we like him as a

797
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: top ten pick right now or do we feel like

798
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: the bloom is off, the rows off of that particular

799
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: hype train. If I can mix some metaphors.

800
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Won't be scared.

801
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: People don't be scared just because a couple of monocks

802
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: have them out of the top ten. To stay the course,

803
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: I still think Robinson will be taking the top ten.

804
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: It's just most teams are like me.

805
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: You have a draft board. If you have this guy

806
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: up high on your draft board. Once Carter goes, that's

807
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: gonna be another guy gone that's gonna be high up

808
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: on people's draft boards. So that to me is a

809
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: big factory if Carter goes, If these dns go, the

810
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: Eagles are in play, Atlanta's in play. They're both teams

811
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: that they want D lineman. Both teams do Atlanta. I've

812
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: read there there GM wants to take a d lineman.

813
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: If those top three guys go right and Robinson falls

814
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: a little bit, I just see a team going up

815
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 3: and getting them. So I don't know if it's gonna

816
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: be the Bears that can move back. I don't know

817
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: if it's the Egos that can move back. But there's

818
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: just certain teams I wouldn't move up to take Robinson.

819
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: So to me, I could.

820
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: See the Eagles taking them. I could see Atlanta still

821
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: taking them. You still got a good number I betting them.

822
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: But the safest bet to me is the the part

823
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: with the Gibson, the over one and a half running backs.

824
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: Not that it's a lock, but it kind of feels

825
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: that way at this point where Gibson now has enough

826
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: enough love behind them, like guys like Peter King and

827
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: a couple other guys.

828
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: That have mocked it that the numbers moved.

829
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 3: I think it's minus one forty now minus one fifty

830
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: the over one and a half, it's minus two hundred

831
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: and a couple other books over one and a half running

832
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: backs in the first round. At this point, it kind

833
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: of feels like a shirt thing of Robinson will go

834
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: most likely top fifteen, and then Gibson will be in

835
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: that twenty to twenty five range. So the betting market,

836
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: to me, Robinson, you can still get plus one twenty

837
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: at a couple from the top ten. I still like

838
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: that number. It just feels like a fair value on

839
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: a guy that most teams have him as a top two,

840
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: top three best player on their big board.

841
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: Let's summarize a little bit, because we've gone rapid fire

842
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: through what I think are some really interesting picks. We

843
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: still like value in Bijon at top ten, probably plus

844
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: one twenty. We like over four and a half quarterbacks taken.

845
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: The price has moved considerably since we talked about it

846
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: last time. We like over one and a half running

847
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: backs taken in the first round. We also like the

848
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: idea of sprinkling different money on a combination of Levis

849
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: Stroud Richardson in picks two, three and four. One question

850
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: that came in is and find a Bryce Levice Stroud

851
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: going one, two three at plus two twenty. Do we

852
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: think there is value there? I think the answer is yes.

853
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: No.

854
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: Why you saying no, I'm saying yes.

855
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: Because we don't. It's not it just never goes out

856
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: the way. It's playing like that. That rarely rarely happens.

857
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: If we're lucky, Chad, if we're really lucky, we'll get

858
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: the top two picks. Right.

859
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: I talk all the time these guys who spend months, literally,

860
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: these nerds spend months and months and months doing this

861
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: mock drafts. Well, me and Chad are dominating the football season,

862
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: give it out picks every week. There's other guys who

863
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: literally don't even care about the NFL season. All they're

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Speaker 3: doing is prepping for this upcoming draft. If they are lucky,

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Speaker 3: they will get six picks or five picks exactly right

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Speaker 3: of what the player goes to what team.

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Speaker 2: And that's just how it is.

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Speaker 3: It's just at a thirty two, these guys, if they're lucky,

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Speaker 3: we'll get five, right, Chad, That's how shitty the mocking

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Speaker 3: draft process is. So I just I will never get

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Speaker 3: up people to tell bet boring. That's a boring bet

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Speaker 3: betting it to go that way. I just it's not

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Speaker 3: go three straight quarterbacks, I could easily see Will Levis

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Speaker 3: being the second pick, Like these teams fall in love

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Speaker 3: with these different quarterbacks, and that just throw a whole

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Speaker 3: wrench and everything. So I would do what you did,

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Speaker 3: which is a crazy ass of going pick by pick,

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Speaker 3: picking different quarterbacks for each pick. It's just that to

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Speaker 3: me seems like a smarter move than try and nail

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Speaker 3: three picks in a row.

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Speaker 2: Like that's so damn hard to get right. So I

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, I think pretty soon we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: put together a sizzle of just Simon saying, Chad's pretty smart,

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Speaker 1: Chad making a smart pick. Chad has a smart idea.

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Speaker 2: What a smart idea Boss, Great Idea.

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