Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi ladies, this is such a great Morrow's Minute because
Speaker 1: we had this episode that was so chock full of stuff.
Speaker 1: The thing that I kept noticing that really drove me
Speaker 1: crazy this episode is that Kimberly and Michael are deep
Speaker 1: into their affair and Alison sees them kissing just overtly
Speaker 1: making out in the pot. Oh so overt, so overt,
Speaker 1: and she spends all this time sort of chasing down
Speaker 1: Mike Lin, confronting him. Never ever mentions telling Jane, which
Speaker 1: I thought was so strange. So what do you think
Speaker 1: the and I understand not wanting to get in the middle,
Speaker 1: and Michael sort of says, will you did this with
Speaker 1: Keith so you don't have a leg to stand on?
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Do you confront the guy?
Speaker 1: Do you tell the friend? Like if she finds out
Speaker 1: that Ali didn't tell her, won't she be furious? Have
Speaker 1: you been on either side of it or been close
Speaker 1: to this kind of situation?
Speaker 2: I mean, in your character, Alison confronts the guy, like,
Speaker 2: you go right up to you follow him into the
Speaker 2: laundry room and do confront him. I thought that was
Speaker 2: interesting for Alison, who is being portrayed as kind of
Speaker 2: the good girl in very midwestern and had an affair
Speaker 2: not that long ago with.
Speaker 3: A married man with Keith, so you do confront him.
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting instead of going to Jane
Speaker 2: or instead of talking to Joe you know about it?
Speaker 2: What do we do?
Speaker 3: What do I do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it is sort of interesting because I think
Speaker 4: probably not a whole lot of time has passed right
Speaker 4: in what Alison has decided to do, so I can
Speaker 4: understand like that conundrum of going you know, I feel
Speaker 4: so gross and angry about this, but like deciding to
Speaker 4: confront the guy before going to the friend, I thought,
Speaker 4: it's just it's almost like confirmation, you know. And then
Speaker 4: for Allison's purpose, it does sort of get worse by
Speaker 4: his confirmation of it. He doesn't have a good excuse.
Speaker 4: He actually doubles down and he's like mister entitled about it,
Speaker 4: which is super gross. Which it does feel like the
Speaker 4: next thing Alison should do is tell Jane I mean, and.
Speaker 2: Then on the other hand, she's miss noseybody, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like I wish that she hadn't
Speaker 2: confronted him. I know we had to do that for storyline.
Speaker 2: I wish he'd gone to Jane, because Michael totally denied
Speaker 2: it in her face, gas lighting with a vengeance, with
Speaker 2: real audacity, and he does that, so you're just like.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, jeez, that was the wrong move. Now
Speaker 3: if she goes to Jane, I just wish she'd gone
Speaker 3: to Jane first.
Speaker 1: Maybe the fantasy in her mind was she would say
Speaker 1: to Michael, I started to go, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so so sorry. It was a terrible mistake. I'm never
Speaker 1: going to do it again. Yeah, he would be contrite.
Speaker 1: His reaction made it so much worse, right, saying yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 4: Have you ever had, like, were you ever faced with
Speaker 4: this like dilemma of like do I tell my friend
Speaker 4: something she's really not gonna want to hear, but I
Speaker 4: have to be the one to deliver this news, Like
Speaker 4: have you ever been in that? Like I don't think
Speaker 4: I've ever had to do that and be I mean,
Speaker 4: I hear you hear about it, right, like, oh god,
Speaker 4: I and I can understand them not wanting to be
Speaker 4: in the middle I don't think I've ever been I
Speaker 4: know that, Like, I don't know, I just.
Speaker 3: Memory these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nothing this extreme, but I have like you
Speaker 1: hear that someone saw someone's husband on a dating site.
Speaker 4: Oh and then actual husband or an ex husband a.
Speaker 5: Current that's really great.
Speaker 3: Then what do you do? Do you tell the wife?
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, because because here's the here are
Speaker 1: the seventeen layers of it. Right, So you have the
Speaker 1: layer of do you tell her maybe they have an agreement?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they have an agreement, maybe they have an
Speaker 1: open marriage, and you're just humiliating her by telling her, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't have the information. We don't know ever, what
Speaker 1: goes on behind closed doors, right, So do you say
Speaker 1: I saw this, because then you're hining light on something
Speaker 1: is none of your business.
Speaker 3: But then if you.
Speaker 2: Don't say anything, you're the friend who didn't say anything,
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be that person, Like do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, then you're the friend,
Speaker 2: Like what kind of friend are you? You just saw
Speaker 2: that and you didn't say anything. I could see like
Speaker 2: getting in trouble for that too. But then you've brought
Speaker 2: this thing to the surface. What if they were sort
Speaker 2: of in happy denial and then they know you know,
Speaker 2: so then now there's eye on this and eye on
Speaker 2: this problem in their marriage.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's so complicated, and I do.
Speaker 4: I do think you're right, Like, there's there's a possibility.
Speaker 4: I think this happens a lot where the person receiving
Speaker 4: this news so desperately doesn't want to accept it that
Speaker 4: they turn their anger sort of as the person who
Speaker 4: delivered their message.
Speaker 6: Know, yeah, that don't.
Speaker 4: Shoot the messenger, but it's I think that's a really
Speaker 4: classic sort of thing to happen.
Speaker 6: I think that's probably.
Speaker 4: Like if I were ever in this position, I think
Speaker 4: I would super grapple with I don't want to be
Speaker 4: the one to deliver this new but I don't want
Speaker 4: to not Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Want to know.
Speaker 2: I just need to say you too, if you in
Speaker 2: real life, Okay, forget the podcast, forget the characters, forget
Speaker 2: I see. No, I don't want to be like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe Daphne has an open situation.
Speaker 3: Well maybe maybe she'll get mad at me.
Speaker 6: Take the chance and tell me.
Speaker 1: For Courtney the teller, is it time to tell her
Speaker 1: that way?
Speaker 6: I don't know, we've been holding this information I didn't
Speaker 6: know how to tell you, but I thought I'm doing
Speaker 6: it all.
Speaker 4: I know all the passwords on the Melrose Minute. Is
Speaker 4: the right time to tell you this really important information?
Speaker 6: Daf Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Are you sitting like to keep a really personal intimate
Speaker 1: conversations for the Melose minute.
Speaker 4: And under the guise of like just talking about it
Speaker 4: in a hypothetical way, Actually we have something.
Speaker 6: To share with your dad.
Speaker 2: But I totally would want to know and if I
Speaker 2: let me okay, let me ask you guys, if I
Speaker 2: know something, what should I do going forward? If I
Speaker 2: find out anything about either of you and your partners?
Speaker 3: What well?
Speaker 1: Number one, wait for Melrose minute. Number one, that's supportin thing.
Speaker 4: Will wait for the show actually maybe a full hour episode.
Speaker 6: I just want all of it, like just yeah.
Speaker 2: Totally, it'll up our ratings. Okay, but then I do
Speaker 2: what I think.
Speaker 1: For me, it's because if the person who saw the
Speaker 1: guy on the dating site, these are not intimates of mine, right,
Speaker 1: So right have to first of all call this person,
Speaker 1: say listen, it's Courtney.
Speaker 5: You don't know me well, but we're not closely.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just a busy body.
Speaker 5: You may remember me from Melrose place listen.
Speaker 1: So then that I would not write like I will
Speaker 1: never say that, but if it was one of my
Speaker 1: inner circle of friends, I absolutely would because because of
Speaker 1: what you said, Daphney, I would be so horrified if
Speaker 1: one of my truly intimate friends knew something like this
Speaker 1: and didn't tell me, because I would.
Speaker 5: Feel like they were lying to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then I would tell, and I would say, do
Speaker 1: you know I love you no matter what you choose
Speaker 1: to do with this, no judgment because I really don't
Speaker 1: have any judgment. Like people get to it they want
Speaker 1: no judgment, But I just need you to know this
Speaker 1: because I tell you everything and I just want to
Speaker 1: have a clear channel.
Speaker 4: So then I just like sort of choosing your loyalties, right,
Speaker 4: like I'm I'm you're my friend, and you're the one, yes,
Speaker 4: who should know what I know? Like I'm it's you
Speaker 4: I want to protect and by having this information, that's
Speaker 4: I'm looking out for you.
Speaker 2: But if you're friends with both the couple and your
Speaker 2: loyalty is to them as a couple, it's tricky, man,
Speaker 2: It's really tricky.
Speaker 3: Tricky, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a fun But people other people would
Speaker 2: say because it's a but I know what I would
Speaker 2: want and uh yeah, oh, just for the record.
Speaker 5: Underhand on a site zip it.
Speaker 3: Because we have an agreement.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, I want to know too, but maybe
Speaker 4: keep it off the Millrow's minute, I come on personal preference.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, but this is uh, we'll see hopefully
Speaker 2: people will our listeners will pipe in and say what
Speaker 2: they would do or have had done to them.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think, yeah, it'll be interesting too, Like now
Speaker 1: that Jane has an idea, does she mention it to
Speaker 1: her dear friend Alison, And does Alison say, listen, now
Speaker 1: that you bring it up, I want to mention this
Speaker 1: little tit.
Speaker 3: And she would get mad at you.
Speaker 5: I'm sure then she of course do not tell me.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, it's it seems like that's coming.
Speaker 4: And it's totally fair, like she's figured it out on
Speaker 4: her own anyway sort of. But like it's going to
Speaker 4: give Alison the opportunity to say, actually, now that you
Speaker 4: mention it, but it is still going to open up
Speaker 4: the cannon words like why didn't you tell me sooner?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it's so you know, unfortunately, right, it's humiliating for
Speaker 1: the person who was cheated on. Right, it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: because it's not about them. It doesn't say anything about them.
Speaker 1: But in a way, you're humiliating your friend by saying, listen,
Speaker 1: this person cheated on you. And it's so embarrassing when
Speaker 1: somebody knows something intimate about you your life that you
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that reaction might be very as we said earlier,
Speaker 2: it might be angry at you, like if your denial
Speaker 2: is strong and like, what do you know? And then
Speaker 2: suddenly you have no friend anymore. You know, I'm very
Speaker 2: very you know all or nothing and very I make
Speaker 2: you know. I want to know, and you're gone. If
Speaker 2: you go, you're gone, You're dead to me, and I'll
Speaker 2: probably end up in jail because I.
Speaker 3: Have to kill you. But oh, that is a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 5: So we won't tell Daphne.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but now you're making me think she wants to know.
Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I just feel like I
Speaker 2: could just see, like it's boy, it's a no win situation.
Speaker 6: I do have a friend who.
Speaker 4: Has like a neighbor that she saw a neighbor that's
Speaker 4: like married or whatever, and then but she saw this
Speaker 4: neighbor so like to your point, like not a close
Speaker 4: close friend, but a neighbor with somebody that wasn't her
Speaker 4: husband and sort of witnessed this and she just you know,
Speaker 4: sort of filed it away or like, but it wasn't
Speaker 4: her place because she wasn't close enough friend.
Speaker 6: To say anything about it.
Speaker 4: But the neighbor, then, you know, who knew that My
Speaker 4: friend saw Yeah, said you know, hey, I just wanted
Speaker 4: to let you know.
Speaker 6: What you saw.
Speaker 4: It's actually we do have an agreement and an open relationship,
Speaker 4: and I just you know, I just wanted to just
Speaker 4: so you just don't think anything's weird whatever. And it
Speaker 4: was that situation where where it was explained by this
Speaker 4: unique relationship and and it was an agreement and whatever.
Speaker 4: But the neighbor sort of even though you know it's
Speaker 4: like a close.
Speaker 3: So did your friend say really, so it was.
Speaker 4: Just sort of like an interest your wife know about
Speaker 4: the open Does your wife know that there's an agreement?
Speaker 6: Is the wife in on this opening ground and so
Speaker 6: that you have it? Yeah, So, like I.
Speaker 4: Think there are sort of some unexpected you how comes
Speaker 4: to things like that, even like it's such a weird
Speaker 4: thing hypothetical, and I think it's like a case to case.
Speaker 4: It's based on what your relationship was with the person,
Speaker 4: and like your relationship with the person, whether it's you know,
Speaker 4: important for you.
Speaker 6: To get involved or whatever.
Speaker 4: And but just again it just calls Michael out for
Speaker 4: just being absolutely opposite of having any consciousness at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also don't want it to be so
Speaker 1: Alison is now told Billy, and Alison will probably tell
Speaker 1: Joe and then she'll tell Jake.
Speaker 5: You don't want Jane to feel like.
Speaker 1: The last to everyone knows it. Talking about that wuld
Speaker 1: be horrible.
Speaker 2: I would see Alison telling Joe and then Joe marching
Speaker 2: right down to Jane's I could see Joe like marching
Speaker 2: right down with Alison Jane. Oh hi, Michael, that episode' here,
Speaker 2: sit on down. I have something to ask.
Speaker 4: Which again might sort of throw Alison under the bus, like,
Speaker 4: oh really, Joe would tell me but not you.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I think that that's what she would do
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 4: I love that we have to use our Melrose characters
Speaker 4: to imagine like what we would do, Like there's so
Speaker 4: many of these circumstances, like I've never really been in
Speaker 4: this position.
Speaker 2: Well maybe when the show is on Laura like, people
Speaker 2: would do stuff and then say, well, what would Melrose do?
Speaker 3: It's fine, they would do.
Speaker 5: It being blind, so people would be nice to me.
Speaker 6: Did you wonder what I really do?
Speaker 5: Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't have to wonder. Sometimes a script just it's
Speaker 1: like your real life.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, how.
Speaker 3: Do they know?
Speaker 6: How do they know? That's exactly the type of thing
Speaker 6: that you would do.
Speaker 3: What's a documentary Melrose?
Speaker 2: Actually?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, going.
Speaker 2: Back to our first, our original question of this Melose minute,
Speaker 2: if you put it on Melo's place, we'd be like boring,
Speaker 2: ho hum, Yes, it happens like every other day, somebody's
Speaker 2: cheating on somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had to skip ahead to watch an episode that
Speaker 1: Rob Esti's was in and we were like, what is happening?
Speaker 5: It was so much going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, plenty, plenty of conversations.
Speaker 5: Get a taste of that. Yeah, see what happens in thirty.
Speaker 4: It can make us ask a lot of what would
Speaker 4: I do in real life questions?
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys, what to do?
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear what it's good to know that
Speaker 1: you guys would like to know. I'm on the fence, okay, noted.
Speaker 1: So we'll be very my dog's out walking with someone else.
Speaker 5: Do you guys keep it carrying.
Speaker 4: We'll weigh all the pros, and that's a whole other
Speaker 4: Melrose minute.
Speaker 5: Right, dog walkers, Yeah, alright, guys, to.
Speaker 6: See you, see you for the next one.
Speaker 3: Bye,