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Speaker 1: with the money making conversations again, Molla music, How you doing,

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Speaker 1: Molly Wow McDonald, how's it going? What an honor beautiful

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Speaker 1: introduction to be back again a world, let's get it well.

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Speaker 1: The think about you that you know when we talk, man,

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Speaker 1: I've been It's it's awesome, I said. I said, I

428
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Speaker 1: got to get him on the show and talk about

429
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Speaker 1: this because you know what I said, because when you

430
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Speaker 1: said the Stellar Awards, I see you because because we're

431
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this year, but I want to go

432
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: back in because that's when you're gonna really tell me

433
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: the story of how this happened for you had to

434
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Speaker 1: work through the obstacles of last year. They get where

435
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Speaker 1: we got absolutely, and so those three nominations, how does

436
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: that make you feel? You know, uh, just talk about

437
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: the steps and of that process. Like you said, the

438
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: team get them because we don't do this by ourselves,

439
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: and sometimes out there we feel like we buy ourselves.

440
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Speaker 1: But you at three nominations Stellar Awards, talk about that determination, perseverance,

441
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Speaker 1: and faith. I can't necessarily say like in releasing it,

442
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: like oh man, this is locked up. It wasn't like

443
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: that for me because there was so many business things

444
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: that started to happen. This was my first project as

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: an owner of K approved E n T, which is,

446
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, my company. That's where I'm going to be

447
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: releasing other artists so they don't have to endure the

448
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: things that I had to endure it to get where

449
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: I am. So my attempt from being independent and not

450
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: being signed anymore than now in this licensing situation with

451
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: philth Thor and Ron Hill over r C A, I

452
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to create a label to when I saw

453
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Speaker 1: the next Molley's and when I saw the next time,

454
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Speaker 1: and I could protected it, you know, harvested it and

455
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Speaker 1: push it out. So the Book of Molly was my

456
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: first project from that licensing thing, and it was difficult

457
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: financially paying producers, uh publishing, of getting clearances on any samples,

458
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: getting all musicians taken care of. It was cool because

459
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: it's it's a blessing on a small level. But if

460
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: you play piano on a John Legend song, how much

461
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Speaker 1: money are you gonna ask for? At the end, You're

462
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: not gonna say no, it's okay, just give me a

463
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You're gonna be trying to find out how

464
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Speaker 1: to get enough money for the rest of your life

465
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: because you played piano on a John Legends. That was

466
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Speaker 1: one of the things that had me a bit discouraged,

467
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, and it's always that way because of the

468
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: fact that I would love just to be a talent,

469
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: but because then you're sitting over there just answering to

470
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Speaker 1: somebody to be able to make that commitment paying taxes,

471
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, paying for paying value. And you can understand

472
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: that how this really works, how a Tyler Perer in

473
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Speaker 1: the work. I can assure you ty Perwer knows everybody paying. Okay,

474
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Speaker 1: how will Packer, how all these steve harder, all these

475
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Speaker 1: people are able to do, Reneme, Oprah Winfrey, You're just

476
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. And believe me, they know who

477
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: they pay and they also know the pain infrastruction of

478
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur. So you went from a talent to

479
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and that's important because that allows you to

480
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Speaker 1: collaborate and know what money you would do properly or

481
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Speaker 1: what makes you so much for noting that that's so

482
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Speaker 1: awesome for you to see and and catch because I

483
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Speaker 1: can only hope that that is what happens, because a

484
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Speaker 1: lot of people still see me as a talent. But

485
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: you can only go so far there without the proper team.

486
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: And this is a huge step for me. So you're

487
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: right online and you can't really make too many changes

488
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: for people, yourself or the world from this the artist's position.

489
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Speaker 1: So it's good to like be in a position that

490
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: you can make some things happen, not for yourself but

491
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: you know the thing about That's why that's why I

492
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: created this show so I can talk to individuals like you, Mala,

493
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: because because because as a talent or an individual who

494
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: buys tickets, or you can get caught up in the

495
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: show business other show and it can make you believe

496
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Speaker 1: that you can't do that, or they tell you can't

497
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: do that because it's so complicated. And so I could

498
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: assure you when you was making this transition, it was

499
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: a lot of as they say, trepidation, fear, study, you know,

500
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: go uh am, I gonna make a mistake. I don't

501
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: want to mess up. And then when you did it,

502
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: I remember I did a big my first neighborhood awards

503
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles by two thousand three. When I

504
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: finished it, I realized, I said, I started crying because

505
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: of the fact that all along I could have done

506
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: this when I had been told I couldn't do it

507
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: because it was so hard to do. And so when

508
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: I hear you saying, man, it was a lot of stress,

509
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: it was like, that's part of the process of walking

510
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: through fire. Yeah, and you do it again and again

511
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: and again, and guess what, it's not because it's easier

512
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: because you trust yourself, right, And that's why we're trying

513
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: to get that. When I'm talking to you as a

514
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: person who said, look what, I won't be pigeonholed because

515
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: I want to know what it feels like to do

516
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: R and B music. I want to know what to

517
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: feel like do rock music. I wanted to feel hip

518
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: hop music because guess what, then I understand my value.

519
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: And that's all this conversation about is about your value.

520
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: The first time I met you, I always felt I

521
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: was talking to a uniquely different individual because you value

522
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: things differently. And now you tell me you've been doing

523
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: this since you were eleven years old, I appreciate and

524
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: respect you even more. Man, I'm grateful for that, all right.

525
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Was blessed to be able to have those civilities, and

526
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I'm so honored that you've been

527
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: seeing and following what I've been able to do, because

528
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I can only hope that is that a lot of

529
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: times you know, as you said, we think with myself

530
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: and that people miss it. So it's really cool to see.

531
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: But all of the positions were necessary. The first one

532
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: was a servant leader. My mother was doing a lot

533
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: of the management with Holly Carter. I was young. I

534
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: had confidence in the music, but I'm not necessarily confidence

535
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: in the meeting room, so I wouldn't speak much. I

536
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: was also directed and told not to speak much. How

537
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: have I started noticing that at the end of the day,

538
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: I had the final say. So if I had the

539
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: final say, I started trying to work my way into

540
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: getting the first say, and you know, versus it kind

541
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: of going all the way through and it me seeming

542
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: like it's not that. But at the end of the day,

543
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: that's the only way that I can keep it in

544
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: God's hands. That's the only way that I can keep

545
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: the integrity of my anointing clear. If I wasn't in

546
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: a situation where I can control these things, people will

547
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: continue to say, even in churches, Molly, we want you

548
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: to sing, but don't sing this song, don't say this,

549
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: don't be this, don't act like this. Once I started

550
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: recognizing and seeing that that's what was going to happen

551
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: early in Gospel, I knew it was time to get

552
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: out because there was no way to be what I

553
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: was without the housekeepers of the places I was going

554
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: to sing at protecting their people, right, and they protect

555
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: their people from me. So I'm like, well, I just

556
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: got to get out so I could go ahead and

557
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: be everything that God said and then you guys won't

558
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: have to worry about what you're telling me not to do.

559
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: And it worked out in spite of a world of people,

560
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: a whole wave of creative people, and it's caused me

561
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: to not be able to stop even when the world stops.

562
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: During the pandemic, I was a visualizing myself as a

563
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Joseph like, Okay, well, everybody may not be able to

564
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: get the best of what they wanted or liked while

565
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: everything was flowing, but they could at least get this

566
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: weak They could at least get something. And uh, and

567
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I have it stored up, So how can I bring

568
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: it out? I already have an album out? How can

569
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: I release the more? And partner with other people? And

570
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: keep saying? And it worked. COVID shut down music, shut

571
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: down our lives. You're down two dates. Now we've got

572
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: new music. We got two days coming of tell us

573
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: how one is going to play yourself out for a man,

574
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: it's so packed and stacked, and a lot of my

575
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: colleagues are excited because they're saying that this is what

576
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: they wanted. But during the pandemic, I recognize that I

577
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: did not want to make my money on the road

578
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: primarily maybe when I was younger and all this stuff

579
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: like that, And I get opportunities to sing and travel

580
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: now because I really want to see my people and

581
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: I love the stage. Um. However, as a soul, you know,

582
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: commodity or a stream of income, I don't feel like

583
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: it's the ways. Uh, there's so many ways to make

584
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars overnight if you can

585
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: get the education and look versus waiting a whole month

586
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: stressing your body and banging your body to gain five

587
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You know here seven thousand dollars there sitting

588
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: down forced me to say, Okay, this is God's way

589
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: of making everybody's strong instinct from them. So this is

590
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: a year for us to adopt and adapt new hobbies.

591
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: And I used it to create new streams of income

592
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: just in case the ones that closed never came back.

593
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: So now I created five, and then the five I

594
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: had came back, and I was ten strings of income.

595
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a really crazy thing, and I

596
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that the other five had nothing

597
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: to do with music. So now when I sing, I

598
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: primarily use the increase that I get from singing to

599
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: tap into another entrepreneur. Mine to be able to buy

600
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: stocks or invest in juices or milk or something that

601
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: the stores are buying, so that I'm making money without

602
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: being great. Get what I'm saying, Well, you know I

603
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: because I'm I look at the I went back and

604
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I told my stockbroker. I said, no, no, no, don't

605
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: put me in a fund. Said I'm gonna tell you

606
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: what I want to buy. I picked our ten stocks

607
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: that I said, these are ones I want to buy. Oh,

608
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, I would have loved been in that. But

609
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: do you know, I mean ever trust myself and I

610
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: never trust myself. And so but I want to close

611
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and saying this about you is that you know, we've

612
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: seen everybody as we go back live and things, and

613
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: we've seen an over ground swell of people wanted to

614
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: see live events, you know, people concerts selling out the

615
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: two or three shows, comedy show. I think this is

616
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: going to be such a unique moment for you, Molly,

617
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: because to be able, this is the annointing time I

618
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: think for individuals like you to get out there not

619
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: only to deliver your music, but to hear people wanted

620
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: to receive it, and I just think it's gonna be

621
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: a great year for you, man, and I respect so

622
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: much what you've accomplished in the past. You got my

623
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: hands up, you got my hands up. I receive it.

624
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: I want to walk in it with grace and um

625
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: heavenly anointing. I just don't want to take any read

626
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: it for it because I can mess it up with

627
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: human frustration, limitation, all this stuff like that. But I

628
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: do feel like it's a last of events, so I

629
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: don't want to just keep saying to everybody, this is

630
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: the time for stories, plays, short short stuff, conversations like

631
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: this on stage. It's time for people to I guess,

632
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: feel what it feels like to be around people again.

633
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: And if we're creative in making events that are new,

634
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: then we could just continue to That's what I'm talking

635
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: about this, That's all I'm talking about that because you know,

636
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: because when you were talking about you know, you know

637
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: you make five thousand, then we I know, we got that.

638
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: But the basis of what we do in gospel is emotion.

639
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: It's driven by opportunities, it's driven by blessing and the

640
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: fact that you're about to step out into the world

641
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: and be received again and people are about to understand

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