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Speaker 4: Look at that, Oh b les a shot. We've been gone.
Speaker 4: H we just got back and we've been gone like
Speaker 4: a like a week. It's been a week or a
Speaker 4: decade or.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, so much, so much.
Speaker 1: Has happened in that week.
Speaker 4: In fact, I believe perhaps it's best to describe what's
Speaker 4: happened through a short, one man black box play, one
Speaker 4: that I truly hope will be Tony eligible.
Speaker 1: Can I get a little? Give me a little like
Speaker 1: stetto music.
Speaker 4: I am a democrash, so sad, so cold. The world
Speaker 4: is dube, the world and the future she's bleaker.
Speaker 2: The President's ditch has gotten even deeper.
Speaker 1: There's no path to victory. The worst nightmare kind of scenario.
Speaker 1: It's a doom loop.
Speaker 3: We're trapped in a doom loop.
Speaker 4: That's the worst kind of loop. Why couldn't it have
Speaker 4: been one of those loops made of fruit? But alas,
Speaker 4: my ball is empty condemned to a life of misery
Speaker 4: and minority status in key sub committees. Oh, nothing will
Speaker 4: ever change our sad fate.
Speaker 6: Breaking news, President Biden dropping out of the twenty twenty
Speaker 6: four race.
Speaker 4: Say that again, But who would guide us out of
Speaker 4: the darkness?
Speaker 1: Who would take us there to the promised that.
Speaker 2: I'm coming home?
Speaker 5: Walk the lot.
Speaker 1: Lead?
Speaker 2: I feel alive tonight.
Speaker 3: Breaking news.
Speaker 7: Vice President Kamala Harris now the presumptive Democratic nominee.
Speaker 3: Political earthquake.
Speaker 1: There is a new pep in everybody's step.
Speaker 4: In the span of week, Democrats have gone from the
Speaker 4: despair of a certain Trump presidency to the joy of
Speaker 4: a statistical tie.
Speaker 8: Which.
Speaker 1: Right now that feels like victory. Already.
Speaker 8: The prospect of her candidacy has injected enthusiasm and energy.
Speaker 5: She's received a tsunami of grassroots support and cash.
Speaker 3: She's raised staggering two hundred million dollars since President Biden
Speaker 3: dropped out.
Speaker 4: It's a zoom world record.
Speaker 5: More than one hundred thousand white women mobilized for Vice
Speaker 5: President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand white women.
Speaker 4: That is a giant group white women. I believe the
Speaker 4: scientific term is actually a group of women.
Speaker 1: That is called a group of women. Two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: They've raised a united enthusiastic Democratic Party, a huge reversal
Speaker 4: in one week.
Speaker 1: And they said it couldn't be done.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is going to be the nominee.
Speaker 9: This fantasy stuff, this is good for TV, but Biden's
Speaker 9: not going anywhere.
Speaker 8: This is not an Aaron Sorkin West Wing episode here,
Speaker 8: this is real life.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a nominee, and he will be nominee.
Speaker 1: We literally have three choices as Democrats.
Speaker 8: Either you vote for Donald Trump, you vote for Joe Biden,
Speaker 8: or you stay on the couch.
Speaker 4: I think we know which one of those options. Jd
Speaker 4: Vance would operate. Even I don't feel good about that joke.
Speaker 1: What do I know? A simple pink pony. Grandpapa's John
Speaker 1: brake Y. That's a.
Speaker 4: Farley, A reference to being a Chapel Roone fan, which
Speaker 4: I totally am. Now, somebody in the audience, there'd never
Speaker 4: people come there, but.
Speaker 1: Listen, man. The pundits all said it couldn't happen, but
Speaker 1: it did.
Speaker 4: Happen, and the Republicans are not very happy about it.
Speaker 2: They just steamrolled democracy.
Speaker 9: The Democrats are trying to hijack democracy.
Speaker 1: The ultimate election interference. This was a coup inside the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: A coup de talk, a bloodless coup.
Speaker 1: But I get it.
Speaker 4: If I thought I had this thing in the bag,
Speaker 4: you were going to be going up against old Joe
Speaker 4: Biden and then they pulled this, I'd be like, rough Raf,
Speaker 4: open your eyes.
Speaker 1: How can you not say? They're cooing? They're cooing?
Speaker 4: And by the way, I love that guy's disappointment in
Speaker 4: the phrase bloodless coup. This is a This is a
Speaker 4: bloodless coup. What kind of fun is that? At least
Speaker 4: we brought bare spray and nunchucks.
Speaker 1: But you know what I do. You understand that they're upset.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. So how about we do this out
Speaker 1: of fairness. I'm a fair person. You can replace your
Speaker 1: old guy too.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 4: Even Stephen, by the way, speaking of your old guy,
Speaker 4: he responded to the change to Harris in the Trumpiest
Speaker 4: way possible.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump posted this on his true social account quote,
Speaker 6: so we are forced to spend time and money on
Speaker 6: fighting crooked Joe Biden. Now we have to start all
Speaker 6: over again. Shouldn't the Republican Party be reimbursed for who.
Speaker 4: Do you have any idea how much money and let's
Speaker 4: go brandon your bandages expense.
Speaker 1: Made in America via bank the My Trump is too
Speaker 1: Jerry Lewis, Well, what's done is done.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to shift years, we calibrate. You've got
Speaker 4: Cookie Joe and Sleepy Joe on speed dial. You're going
Speaker 4: to need a new line of attack.
Speaker 1: Chas are like Jewish people join the club. We're getting
Speaker 1: crushed out there right now. I'm not even sure how
Speaker 1: much we like ourselves.
Speaker 4: It's not like the old Seinfeld days when we were
Speaker 4: riding high.
Speaker 1: You know, don't don't don't, don't du.
Speaker 4: You can get a bagel in Iowa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a shweeer in ames Iowa. Boom boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boo.
Speaker 4: Of course, that attack may ring hollow, seeing as Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris's husband is let me check my notes, Jewish, anything
Speaker 4: else that could denigrate all of Kamala Arris's accomplishments by
Speaker 4: suggesting it's merely the power of the Jezebel.
Speaker 5: It is relevant when a young candidate tries to sleep
Speaker 5: her way into politics and into power, and that is
Speaker 5: what it appears Kamala Harris did.
Speaker 1: She's never earned or won anything.
Speaker 7: She was legitimately handed her original post in California state
Speaker 7: government because she was sleeping.
Speaker 9: With Willie Brown, and then he backed her in her
Speaker 9: race for San Francisco DA.
Speaker 4: Okay, squeaks, listen, I don't know, guys, you're being awfully
Speaker 4: subtle here.
Speaker 1: Isn't there a grosser way you can say.
Speaker 8: That Kamala Harris she's the original Hawktua girl.
Speaker 3: That's the way she got where she is.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. That's the kind of substantive
Speaker 4: and elevated take from a guy who looks like he's
Speaker 4: won Mike's hard lemonade away from getting in a fight
Speaker 4: at his sister's wedding. You little tough to hair, and
Speaker 4: you're not fooling anybody, Baldy so Sex is saying, Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris slept her way to the top. Joe Biden and
Speaker 4: Donald Trump literally slept her way to the top, and
Speaker 4: we never heard of the.
Speaker 1: Pink about it.
Speaker 4: Does anybody have a substantive critique.
Speaker 7: Her record is extraordinarily radical. Let me say at the outset,
Speaker 7: Kamala can't have my guns, she can't have my gasoline engine,
Speaker 7: and she's sure as hell. Can't have my steaks and cheeseburgers, sir.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude.
Speaker 4: Does appear that you could at least share some of
Speaker 4: your cheeseburgers.
Speaker 1: Looks like you'll still be okay? Is that right? Tubs?
Speaker 4: Did you see you have mutton chops in case you
Speaker 4: get hungry?
Speaker 1: But is Harris really that radical?
Speaker 10: If you combine Bernie, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, you
Speaker 10: get Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: If you combine Bernie Sanders and Elizabethoarne, you get Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I can't be you know what? There is an app
Speaker 1: that actually does that community Leobada Garris.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's me Opata Gars. I love that guy.
Speaker 1: He's the best. Come on guys.
Speaker 4: Nobody believes Kamala Harris is the second coming of Karl Marx.
Speaker 4: And even when they get substantive policy critiques, they undercut
Speaker 4: them immediately.
Speaker 5: Even when she was in California, she was very soft
Speaker 5: on crime, the same Kamala Harris who as a California
Speaker 5: prosecutor and attorney general put people in prison to use
Speaker 5: them as cheap labor.
Speaker 1: She's too soft on crime. She's too tough on crin people.
Speaker 1: We opened it three months you're flailing dig deep.
Speaker 6: That's one final thing that nobody talks about.
Speaker 3: She's hated by people who worked for it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Everybody that worked for Kamala quit a very aggressive, angry,
Speaker 7: bullying boss.
Speaker 1: She's not a nice person to work with. She's a
Speaker 1: terrible boss. Your candidate's Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: His catchphrase is literally you syd He's the Anna Wintur
Speaker 4: of authoritarian wannabes. Donald Trump hired forty four cabinet members.
Speaker 4: Seventy five percent of them want nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the guy. His second Darry of State, called him a
Speaker 4: fing moron. His chief of staff said he's the most
Speaker 4: flawed person I've ever met.
Speaker 1: You know why he needs a new vice president of
Speaker 1: running mate, I'll tell you you're tried to get the
Speaker 1: last one killed. That's right now, terrible they're failing.
Speaker 4: You know what, if you want something done to yourself, Donald,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to hit Kamala with one of your
Speaker 4: magic nicknames, laughing.
Speaker 2: Kamala l A F F I an apostrophe, laughing.
Speaker 6: So now we have a new victim to defeat Lion
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris, Lion l Yi an Apostophe.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I hate to say. It can
Speaker 4: be you tried, you give your best. I kind of
Speaker 4: think you're going to have to go back to your classics.
Speaker 4: It's worked for you in the past. It's your comfort zone.
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have to play the hits.
Speaker 3: I think she was a DEI hired, she was a DEI.
Speaker 1: She would be the Queen of DEI if she were elected.
Speaker 2: She is DEI.
Speaker 10: I think that this whole d E and I token higher.
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris has already been exposed.
Speaker 6: This woman, this disaster whose only qualification was having a
Speaker 6: vagina and the right skin color.
Speaker 1: So I guess she's black or is she?
Speaker 10: She's not African American. Her mother's from India, her father's
Speaker 10: from Jamaica. She grew up in Canada, and she married
Speaker 10: a white Jewish guy. So she has no common experiences
Speaker 10: with Black Americans.
Speaker 1: She's not one of you. She's not even married to
Speaker 1: one of you. She's also about as black as Rachel Dozel.
Speaker 3: This is how desperate they are.
Speaker 1: Is she black? Is she Indian?
Speaker 3: Nobody knows to ra.
Speaker 2: In one person.
Speaker 1: Now I've seen everything. I heard.
Speaker 4: She sent a DNA to twenty three and me and
Speaker 4: it broke the computa.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Good, it's greatious.
Speaker 4: These people ever saw a pizza hat slash taco bell,
Speaker 4: They'd lose their fucking minds.
Speaker 1: What is this a di restaurant?
Speaker 4: For more on the Republican response to Kamala Harris, we
Speaker 4: go live to Washington, DC with senior political correspondent Josh Johnson.
Speaker 2: Josh, thank you so much. Thanks for driving off, Josh,
Speaker 2: You've been down in DC.
Speaker 1: Everything is flying around. What is the latest, Josh?
Speaker 8: There's a tough one for them, John. Kamala Harris is
Speaker 8: a confusing candidate for Republicans. They feel she's too young
Speaker 8: to be president but too old to be a woman.
Speaker 8: But they do have some very promising areas of attack.
Speaker 8: She's too short, She's bad at video games, all of them,
Speaker 8: all right, Grand Theft Auto Mario Kart, Mario Party, Super
Speaker 8: Mario Party, Mario Party, Superstars, Grand Theft Mario Party.
Speaker 3: Oh and she.
Speaker 8: Laughs funny, you know, the laugh of a drunk girl
Speaker 8: who lost her person then realized she actually was wearing
Speaker 8: her purse the whole time. America hates that kind of laugh.
Speaker 8: It's not that funny, Stacy.
Speaker 1: Where do you think the attacks are going to land?
Speaker 8: Well, as you mentioned earlier, I really think the winner
Speaker 8: is going to.
Speaker 3: Be she's blind.
Speaker 8: Okay, sorry for yelling. That's how it was said to me.
Speaker 1: Just yelled she's black.
Speaker 8: No, No, they have all kinds of attacks. Ready, all right,
Speaker 8: I'm seeing uh black black black woman. I got this
Speaker 8: one American African, which sounds scary when you flip it
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you see that.
Speaker 1: Let you see that. That's the one. Oh.
Speaker 8: They were looking at me when they said this one
Speaker 8: like you, But lady also got some more black black
Speaker 8: and he black urban doesn't crack at least they know.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 8: I can't even say this one. Oh my lord, I'm Kenya.
Speaker 8: I think that one is left over from the last
Speaker 8: time someone was you know, black, you said it, not me.
Speaker 1: It's black on every page.
Speaker 8: It's most of the words.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah, black to you, John, Thanks John, John Johnson.
Speaker 2: Everybody hear week, come back, Buddha, Josh, don't go away.
Speaker 2: We're about the Dalla show.
Speaker 1: My guest tonight.
Speaker 4: He is the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, ran
Speaker 4: for president of twenty twenty Foe's welcome to the program,
Speaker 4: Pete Boodha.
Speaker 2: Judge, h, I'm gonna turn about this. So all right,
Speaker 2: we're a little crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh let me let me.
Speaker 2: Kind of story.
Speaker 9: H h.
Speaker 2: M hm hm.
Speaker 4: H. That uh is all the time we have. I
Speaker 4: gotta tell you. So I was coming out.
Speaker 1: I come out earlier just to talk to the audience,
Speaker 1: have some words. There was a lovely woman in the audience.
Speaker 1: She said.
Speaker 4: She stood up and she said, is the future Madam
Speaker 4: president here tonight? And I said, I'm not sure what
Speaker 4: you're saying. She said, Kamala Harris. And I said, oh,
Speaker 4: you thought Kamala Harris is here tonight and she's not.
Speaker 4: And there was a sadness that crept over the heat.
Speaker 1: But you just healed it. You. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just swear to God though, because you are for
Speaker 4: liberals watching you go on Fox News and discuss things
Speaker 4: in a rational manner. It is for liberals. It's like
Speaker 4: when when Gossling hosts SNL. It's just that it's just like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's so good at this. Is that an uncomfortable thing
Speaker 4: to do? Is it something you enjoy?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Lotal, I mean I never thought that Fox News would
Speaker 3: be like a specialty of mine. Yes, it's not something
Speaker 3: I watched a ton of before I found myself going
Speaker 3: on it off.
Speaker 1: Ain't you know?
Speaker 3: What I found is it's it is important to reach
Speaker 3: people where they are. And even if I'm skeptical sometimes
Speaker 3: that the network is covering things in good faith, I
Speaker 3: know lots of people who are tuning in faith and
Speaker 3: so in the same way that you know, back when
Speaker 3: I was running for president, I kind of specialized in
Speaker 3: counties that had voted for Obama and then for Trump.
Speaker 3: That that's how I want Iowa. Really it was partly
Speaker 3: through that kind of outreach and finding people who are
Speaker 3: not hardcore partisans but do usually get their information in
Speaker 3: a very certain and and I would argue very narrow way.
Speaker 3: I have a chance to as long as they'll have
Speaker 3: me on, I have a chance to pop that you know, puncture,
Speaker 3: that that bubble.
Speaker 4: Do you find anecdotal feedback that it's heard other than uh,
Speaker 4: you know, a clip going viral or something like that.
Speaker 4: Will you be at home in Michigan? Will you be somewhere?
Speaker 4: And soone that you know is more red partisan will
Speaker 4: say to you, hey, I caught you.
Speaker 3: On Yeah, I mean literally happened to me today. And
Speaker 3: to be clear, it's not like somebody says, you know,
Speaker 3: I was a rock rib Republican and I saw your
Speaker 3: four minute Fox News segment and I've seen the light
Speaker 3: and now I'm a Democrat. But you know, I do
Speaker 3: hear from people I know who are more conservative or
Speaker 3: probably don't usually vote the way I do. But they'll say,
Speaker 3: you know, I saw the way you laid things out.
Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, I understand where you're
Speaker 3: coming from, or I think the way you laid out
Speaker 3: could make sense and right. You know, I'm under no
Speaker 3: illusion that you can just you know, on the strength
Speaker 3: of a witty argument.
Speaker 1: Or a you know, man, are you preaching to him? Yep,
Speaker 1: you're right, but doesn't dude jank. But I get it.
Speaker 1: I get I get the conversation asiety.
Speaker 3: What is the point of having a conversation if you're
Speaker 3: not speaking to people who don't already agree with you?
Speaker 1: Son of a bitch. That's so smart and it's exactly
Speaker 1: the way. It's a b are you by the way,
Speaker 1: uh unbelievably tumultuous.
Speaker 4: I mean, week like eight days has it felt that
Speaker 4: way inside the administration? How did you find out about it?
Speaker 4: Is it in that situation? Does the president call everybody
Speaker 4: together and go, hey, everybody, uh got some news?
Speaker 1: Like how does that? How does it work?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I mean that would be a very long list of
Speaker 3: everybody to you know, to talk to. So I found
Speaker 3: out the way everybody did. I was I was actually
Speaker 3: on a plane fittingly enough, taxiing in and Jason was
Speaker 3: sitting next to me and checking Twitter and and and
Speaker 3: saw the post and uh so we found out that
Speaker 3: the same way everybody else did. And yeah, ever since,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us, you know, our heads
Speaker 3: are spinning. So much has changed. But part of what's
Speaker 3: changed is this incredible energy that we have. Now. You know,
Speaker 3: I was home over the weekend stop by the field
Speaker 3: office for the now Harris campaign next where we live in.
Speaker 4: Did they literally just take the poster down and slap
Speaker 4: another one up?
Speaker 1: There? Is that?
Speaker 4: Like it's the same office with the same people pretty much.
Speaker 3: And that's okay because it's it's it's because it's it's
Speaker 3: the same values and it's the same effort, right, It's
Speaker 3: just yeah, now, I.
Speaker 1: Mean they're literally right, like.
Speaker 3: I will say that they got those yard signs already
Speaker 3: really quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but more's got to be a kin goes
Speaker 4: almost everywhere.
Speaker 3: You know, she obviously, you know, she represents a lot
Speaker 3: of continuity with the values of the Biden Harris campaign
Speaker 3: and the Biden Harris administration, but also a different messenger,
Speaker 3: a different style, of different approach, and people are clearly
Speaker 3: really fired up and excited about it.
Speaker 1: I know, I do you think is it? This is
Speaker 1: such a strange question.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you've spoken to him or not,
Speaker 4: but like, do you think President Biden sees that and
Speaker 4: is like, oh, fine, like or is he like does that?
Speaker 4: I would imagine it would hurt your feelings. If that
Speaker 4: were me, it would it would hurt my feelings.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think part of what
Speaker 3: he achieved with what's a really extraordinary thing. I think
Speaker 3: even now we might be under selling how world historically
Speaker 3: rare it is to be literally the most powerful person,
Speaker 3: and it's lay power aside, right, just because it's the
Speaker 3: right thing to do, right. But in so I also
Speaker 3: think he's consolidated his own standing as one of America's
Speaker 3: great presidents, right, And I also think he's very conscious
Speaker 3: that that that means spreading through the tape and continuing
Speaker 3: to deliver for the next six What are the.
Speaker 1: Narrative about, Like they bullied him, he was bullied? Is
Speaker 1: that even can you do that to a president?
Speaker 4: Can you be like, get out and then the president
Speaker 4: will be like stop yetting it me?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing, right. It was his call,
Speaker 3: and he made that call, and people made say those
Speaker 3: delegates were his right, yeah, I mean, and people may
Speaker 3: second guess, you know that the manner of it or
Speaker 3: the timing of it. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it was his choice. He made that choice, and that
Speaker 3: must have been an extraordinarily difficult choice, but also the
Speaker 3: right choice.
Speaker 4: Now are you being so now it's she is on
Speaker 4: a vice presidential search? Are you being vetted right now?
Speaker 4: Would you know if you're being vetted right now? When
Speaker 4: they vet you, did you feel it?
Speaker 1: Is it a physical sensation you're being vetted?
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, you know when you're being vetted?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I may vet you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vet you right now. Colease no?
Speaker 3: Please don't.
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty pretty good? All right? What does it require?
Speaker 1: Is there like, is there literally a physical exam that goes.
Speaker 3: Along with being vetted, not that I'm aware of, but
Speaker 3: I mean, look, all I should say about is that
Speaker 3: that you know she is going to make this decision.
Speaker 3: She's got a process.
Speaker 4: Oh god, she I mean everything you say, even that
Speaker 4: is being vetted. Probably it's so uncomfortable because don't aren't
Speaker 4: you Do you think the vetting process is different.
Speaker 1: To be in the administration, you probably have to go
Speaker 1: through a process.
Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, I was thinking about it because I
Speaker 3: was vetted to be part of the cabinet, and then
Speaker 3: pretty soon after that, Tasseen and I were going through
Speaker 3: the process of adoption and you know, kind of the
Speaker 3: same thing, but with a social worker instead of a
Speaker 3: white shoe law firm. Really, I mean there's a lot
Speaker 3: of you know that the law firm is like, okay, now,
Speaker 3: you know, tell me about your finances, and you know,
Speaker 3: a year or two later is a social worker. He's like,
Speaker 3: tell me about your finances, and you go through a
Speaker 3: step by step. And one of the things you think
Speaker 3: about is the journey that an adoptive that adoptive parents
Speaker 3: go through, right, does it involve that kind of.
Speaker 1: You It's that the bar of adoption is that high.
Speaker 4: It's similar to like getting a high level security clearance
Speaker 4: position in government.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not the exact same obviously, but but
Speaker 3: you know, like they overlap, right.
Speaker 4: Were there questions was there certain parts of the vetting
Speaker 4: process for government where you were like, you're gonna let
Speaker 4: me get away with that, Like was there anything like.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If there was not? But if there was, would I
Speaker 3: describe it on television?
Speaker 1: This is this is cable's see. That's my my problem is.
Speaker 4: The vetting process because being vetted to be a road
Speaker 4: comic is the bar is don't die. But like for
Speaker 4: public service, if I've got pictures in a shoe box,
Speaker 4: that would disqualify me if you're working for the post office,
Speaker 4: like it's it's bad, but you you know, you were
Speaker 4: in the military, did things like pretty clean?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say anything, but it sounded to
Speaker 4: me right there like you're hiding something thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: Uh when will they tell you?
Speaker 4: Do they come to you afterwards and say, hey, we're
Speaker 4: about to announce it and you made it to the
Speaker 4: quarterfinals and you were great, But do they like will
Speaker 4: they announce that or do you find out like on Twitter?
Speaker 3: Like everybody else, I don't know. What I know is
Speaker 3: that there's a flying form me.
Speaker 1: You're going to talk values again, aren't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably, I probably think. No, it's good.
Speaker 1: Look she did.
Speaker 3: What I say is no matter what the flying formation
Speaker 3: is going to be, I'm really excited to be part
Speaker 3: of this. I'm excited to be part of this campaign
Speaker 3: because I really believe in it and and I feel
Speaker 3: that energy. I felt it on the ground.
Speaker 1: Over that You've been back out on the on the
Speaker 1: road since happened. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kicked off a canvass in the Traverse City Field
Speaker 3: office and it felt amazing. Just it was an energy
Speaker 3: I hadn't felt since I was campaigning in Michigan in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two for the midterms, which went really well. So,
Speaker 3: you know, but as you memorably pointed out, you know,
Speaker 3: three or four months is forever, So a lot of
Speaker 3: things are gonna happen. There's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 3: ups and downs. It's gonna be a roller coaster. But
Speaker 3: I think we're ready for that, largely because we're I
Speaker 3: think now we're kind of we have a renewed awareness
Speaker 3: not just of what we're against but what we're for,
Speaker 3: right And I think that's really important.
Speaker 4: Well, the message before was literally it doesn't matter what
Speaker 4: you see that's worse, which is not.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not so compelling, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And people were those and I don't say that I
Speaker 1: don't see that to be disrespectful.
Speaker 4: It's just like it seems like, you know what people
Speaker 4: were experiencing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, look, there is a temptation to
Speaker 3: have our message be entirely about Donald Trump because we're
Speaker 3: so disturbed by what his return would mean, and maybe
Speaker 3: a little more also about Jade Vance because of how odd.
Speaker 1: Boyd he's turned out to me. I gotta tell you, boy,
Speaker 1: did that dude drop a turd on launch? Right?
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like that where they were like
Speaker 4: one day they were like the heir to the Maga
Speaker 4: fortune and the Maga the.
Speaker 1: Prince j D shouton Martin. He comes out and he's like,
Speaker 1: I hate cat ladies.
Speaker 2: You know, it's rough.
Speaker 3: And you know it's just like systematically insulted so many people.
Speaker 3: It's not just the kind of things he said, but
Speaker 3: the policy ideas behind them, Like he has this idea
Speaker 3: that you should get extra votes if you have.
Speaker 1: Kids, extra votes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he suggested that that you should have extra votes
Speaker 3: if you're a parent. Really, I think there's lots of.
Speaker 1: You don't even get that in your own house.
Speaker 2: I'm a parent, you don't get anything true.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find that. I mean, ours are not
Speaker 3: yet three. But and it's rooted in this strange idea
Speaker 3: that it's not just he doesn't just say that being
Speaker 3: a parent to you, you know, an important role as citizen,
Speaker 3: which I agree with, that it gives you unique perspective
Speaker 3: on the future. It's that not being a parent makes
Speaker 3: you less.
Speaker 1: Like I think that's absolutely how I feel, he said.
Speaker 3: He said, people who don't have children, this is a quote,
Speaker 3: have no physical commitment to the future of this country.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I just think about how like, no physical commitment
Speaker 3: to the future. Like when I was deployed to Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: I didn't have kids back then, but I will tell you,
Speaker 3: especially when there was a rocket attack going on, my
Speaker 3: commitment to this country felt pretty pretty physical.
Speaker 1: They tell us.
Speaker 3: This is why.
Speaker 4: This is why people love seeing you go on through shows,
Speaker 4: because that framing is perfect because it does it points
Speaker 4: to that idea that who are you to tell what's
Speaker 4: in someone else's heart? About what they feel about the
Speaker 4: future or what they feel about this country. And the
Speaker 4: sacrifices that you made, as you said, without having had children,
Speaker 4: were tremendous.
Speaker 1: So it's shocking, and I also have.
Speaker 4: To address this sort of strange I think false populism
Speaker 4: on the right, economic populism. The Roberts Court has been
Speaker 4: the least worker friendly court and god knows how long
Speaker 4: their policies. You know, they complain about globalization hurting workers,
Speaker 4: and I do think that's a correct formulation. I think
Speaker 4: we didn't do enough in that moment, But I don't
Speaker 4: think they realize.
Speaker 1: What right to work states.
Speaker 4: You know, what they think Mexico is to the United States,
Speaker 4: Texas is to New York like it's a race to
Speaker 4: the bottom. And there's all kinds of studies that show
Speaker 4: right to work states depress wages, they depress worker safety,
Speaker 4: they do all kinds of terrible So what is this
Speaker 4: economic populism based on.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not based on policy, it's just language. It's
Speaker 3: this idea that if you just act like you are populists,
Speaker 3: that that counts as if. Look, I'm under no illusions
Speaker 3: that elections are just a policy exercise. A lot of
Speaker 3: it is vibes. A lot of it is style. But
Speaker 3: if your party has been systematically against unions, against a
Speaker 3: higher minimum wage, against things like paid family leave, against overtime,
Speaker 3: then just because you found Hulk Hogan and kid Rock
Speaker 3: and put him on stage, doesn't make you a friend
Speaker 3: of the working man, right like the substance after anat.
Speaker 1: Well, I would.
Speaker 4: Only say it does make you a friend of the
Speaker 4: workingman in the eighties, So I think I think that
Speaker 4: was helpful, do you in terms of that? I wonder
Speaker 4: you know, ever since Reagan, and I think democratic administrations
Speaker 4: have gone along with it too much as well, the
Speaker 4: shift from a labor economy to an investment economy and
Speaker 4: the penalties that labor faces versus you know, there's no
Speaker 4: question that equities and the investment market have done unbelievably
Speaker 4: well since you know, the eighties, right, and that labor has,
Speaker 4: you know, whilew much further behind.
Speaker 1: It's a shareholder economy.
Speaker 4: Why is it so difficult to get workers, forget about
Speaker 4: even unions, a place at the table at the companies.
Speaker 4: If these companies have done so well for their shareholders,
Speaker 4: why why can't the workers share in that prosperity In
Speaker 4: the same way as why can't they be shareholders?
Speaker 3: I think that's right, although I will say one thing
Speaker 3: that unions are increasingly doing is getting employees a chance
Speaker 3: to participate in that profit sharing for exactly that reason, right,
Speaker 3: and getting that seat at the table. But that's exactly
Speaker 3: why it matters, not just kind of what your style
Speaker 3: or your affect is, but what you're actually proposing to do.
Speaker 3: And I would say, you know, part of what we
Speaker 3: can be really proud of from the Biden Harris ears
Speaker 3: and I think in future a future Harris administration too,
Speaker 3: is a real focus on return a little more to
Speaker 3: a worker led economy or worker oriented economy that building
Speaker 3: things like yes, you know, the financialization, A lot of
Speaker 3: those trends have been very powerful in the role of
Speaker 3: the information economy, which has merged in some ways with manufacturing,
Speaker 3: because you know, even a car is increasingly you know,
Speaker 3: part car, part computer. But it's still really important that
Speaker 3: we make the cars here, and that's part of what
Speaker 3: we've been working to make happen. There was a manufacturing
Speaker 3: recession during Trump. Even before covid R, there was a
Speaker 3: manufacturing boom. Now you have to go back decades to
Speaker 3: find anything like this much investment in terms of the
Speaker 3: amount of places around the country right now where factories
Speaker 3: are being built.
Speaker 1: There was just a guy, it was I think it
Speaker 1: was the mayor.
Speaker 4: It was a city in Arizona, it might have been
Speaker 4: Mesa wrote an op ed almost saying exactly that he's
Speaker 4: a Republican and he's in a border town, and he
Speaker 4: was saying, I'm supporting Harris because of the investment active infrastructure,
Speaker 4: because of the JFZAC, because of what they tried to do,
Speaker 4: and maybe that is the key, is to get that
Speaker 4: out in those sorts of places where people might not
Speaker 4: normally hear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I remember being a mayor in the industrial Midwest.
Speaker 3: And actually, the one time that Trump fooled me, I'll
Speaker 3: admit it, something he said he would do that I
Speaker 3: believed him, was when he said he was going to
Speaker 3: pass this big infrastructure law. I thought he would do
Speaker 3: it because it's good politically and why not. And of
Speaker 3: course he failed to do it. Joe Biden did, by
Speaker 3: the way, with a lot of involvement from Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: And now it's something that I wish back when I
Speaker 3: was mayor that we had that kind of wind at
Speaker 3: our back. In the city.
Speaker 1: But it's terribly hard.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny. I went to his college. I thought for sure,
Speaker 4: I saw the ad and I went to it, and
Speaker 4: it turned out. I'm not a doctor, but I'll say this.
Speaker 3: I think the really important thing to watch with him
Speaker 3: isn't the promises that he broke, Like, yeah, he broke
Speaker 3: the promise about infrastructure, he broke the promise about six
Speaker 3: percent growth. He even broke the promise he made to
Speaker 3: that January sixth mob when he said he was going
Speaker 3: to be right there with him when they marched on
Speaker 3: the catre. But actually the promises he kept are the
Speaker 3: really interesting ones, because I think they tell you what
Speaker 3: the next Trump administration, if he got one, would be like.
Speaker 3: And he really kept too. One was the promise he
Speaker 3: made to the Christian Right to eliminate the right to choose,
Speaker 3: and the other was the promise he made to Corporate
Speaker 3: America to cut taxes for corporations in the wealthy. Those
Speaker 3: are the promises he followed through on. That's what he's about,
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan or not.
Speaker 4: I think every that's great pe body tags. From now on,
Speaker 4: every political conversation in this country has to end with
Speaker 4: Hulk Hogan or not.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 2: Everybody, go talk talk for tonight.
Speaker 1: We've only got tonight.
Speaker 4: We're gonna check in with your host for the rest
Speaker 4: of the week, mister Ronnie Chang, Ronnie Chang, everybody, so much,
Speaker 4: so much is going on, the speed of everything, Ronnie.
Speaker 1: What's coming up this week?
Speaker 9: Well, I'll be talking about the accusation that Trump's VP
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Speaker 1: Vans had sex with a couch.
Speaker 3: And let me just.
Speaker 9: Say, from my own personal investigation, it proves that it's
Speaker 9: really difficult, Ronnie.
Speaker 1: That's been debunked.
Speaker 4: It was just it was a dumb tweet somebody made
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Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 9: Oh, okay, Well, do you know what a kios return policy.
Speaker 1: Ronnie Chang?
Speaker 4: Everybody, I, as an American, find it offensive that a
Speaker 4: nominee is being coronated like Kamala.
Speaker 1: What makes Kamala Harris a remarkable figure?
Speaker 7: We all oh Carmela a little bit of respect.
Speaker 2: Kamala, Kamala, Kamala, Mama, Mama.
Speaker 1: I don't know Kamala Harris. You can say, you can
Speaker 1: say Tamala.
Speaker 2: I couldn't care less if I mispronounced it or not.
Speaker 1: I couldn't care less.
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