Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: So welcome to wind Down. It's me and Kitty Gat.
Speaker 2: Kitty Gat, So what you got going on there?
Speaker 1: Girl? Dude? Is it just me?
Speaker 3: Or Summer's the most stressful thing ever? I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know what I think. I'm on the like the
Speaker 3: verge already of a mental breakdown. It usually doesn't happen
Speaker 3: this early, so.
Speaker 2: To explain and talk to me. I mean, I have
Speaker 2: my thoughts as well, but talk.
Speaker 4: I just I love being busy.
Speaker 5: I thrive on that.
Speaker 3: But I think at least during the school year, I
Speaker 3: get it, like time. I'm just such an introvert and
Speaker 3: I need such time on my own that at least
Speaker 3: during the school year, I've got while they're in school
Speaker 3: to get work done, to get laundry done, to do whatever,
Speaker 3: and then we can be crazy in the afternoons.
Speaker 5: That's fine, But now it's like go go, go, go go.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: I just I literally lost it the other day.
Speaker 4: I felt terrible what happened.
Speaker 3: Emmy was like, you know, we've got the new puppy,
Speaker 3: and she had him and then she gave him to
Speaker 3: Ramsey and then no one could find the dog, and
Speaker 3: she's like sitting there trying to explain to me the
Speaker 3: whole thing, and I just was like, just find the dog.
Speaker 3: But I yelled at her and I felt terrible. But
Speaker 3: I looked at Nick and I was like, mental breakdown.
Speaker 5: He's like, it's coming earlier this year. Yeah, I just
Speaker 5: don't do summer as well. I don't.
Speaker 1: First question, did you find the dog?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in the house. He was lost, running
Speaker 3: around getting hit by a car. That's why I was
Speaker 3: screaming at her. But apparently Ramsey did do what she
Speaker 3: was supposed to and brought him in.
Speaker 2: So does it not get easier than when the kids
Speaker 2: get older because they've got friends to play with?
Speaker 3: So you would think, so I thought, and for a
Speaker 3: short time it kind of did. The problem is is like,
Speaker 3: for instance, right now, I think I have five boys
Speaker 3: at my house that I just threatened out of my
Speaker 3: kitchen and like one you cannot speak, you can't do anything.
Speaker 5: You know, any had friends, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's just like they're all at my house all
Speaker 3: the time, or it's driving them, like they just make
Speaker 3: all the plans like I need you driving here and
Speaker 3: driving here and driving here, and it's just it's a lot.
Speaker 5: It's just it literally is enough to like, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 2: I feel like so many people can relate to that, though, And.
Speaker 1: How do I say this.
Speaker 2: In my situation, it's a little different because our summer
Speaker 2: schedule's week on, week off. Now, last year I made
Speaker 2: the mistake of and you you warned me against it, you,
Speaker 2: but I I have you know, normally I don't go
Speaker 2: a week ever without seeing the kids. In our parenting plan,
Speaker 2: it's always every Wednesday and every other Friday Saturday. And
Speaker 2: so with summer, I remember, it's stressing me out so bad,
Speaker 2: like I'm going to go a week without seeing my kids,
Speaker 2: Like this is going to be awful. So I decided
Speaker 2: that we could have the kids just come to my
Speaker 2: house while he's working on my non weeks so I
Speaker 2: can at least see the kids. Well, then when I
Speaker 2: had my week, I didn't have any help, so it's
Speaker 2: like I never really got a break. And then I
Speaker 2: felt that kind of what you were feeling, just like,
Speaker 2: and they're littles too, so it's even so that adds
Speaker 2: its own element of hard. And so this year I
Speaker 2: was like, Nope, you can't, even though I want them,
Speaker 2: I want to see them but I also know the
Speaker 2: importance of that break because if not like, yes, you're
Speaker 2: I'm going to have that mental crack.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and even if you have help in that week,
Speaker 3: especially with the littles, it don't you're still coming mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So it's like, I don't think people fully understand that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, because you know, so many people are like, well,
Speaker 3: you're fortunate to have help because there's been there's been
Speaker 3: summers where I've had a nanny or I've had help
Speaker 3: or whatever. It's like, but if they're in the house,
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter because they're just constantly coming up
Speaker 3: to you and constantly needing something.
Speaker 2: One million percent, Yeah, because I would have someone help
Speaker 2: on his weeks. But yeah, I'm like, well, I might
Speaker 2: as well not even have this person here because they're
Speaker 2: coming to ask me questions twenty four to seven. So
Speaker 2: and that's the same thing with kind of summer. Now
Speaker 2: it's Jace is so he has to be so active.
Speaker 2: Like even when I brought him on set, like Jolie
Speaker 2: was the best set kid. She just like would just
Speaker 2: sit there in color and watch Jace. He was there
Speaker 2: for five minutes, He's like.
Speaker 1: I bored. I want to go home or can we
Speaker 1: go somewhere.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh man, So that's another reason why too,
Speaker 2: where the set time got cut a little short because
Speaker 2: so now in summer I'm like, all right, on my weeks,
Speaker 2: like we have to be doing something because he's just
Speaker 2: very like wants to be like active and going. But
Speaker 2: then I'm like, all right, for that week I can't work.
Speaker 3: I will say, you're very good at like delegating your
Speaker 3: time with that, and I think that because I mean,
Speaker 3: i mean you're very like, I know, like, okay, you
Speaker 3: have the kids in the summer, like at this time
Speaker 3: we can talk about work or whatever.
Speaker 5: I'm not good at that and I need to get
Speaker 5: better at that. So then I just get stressed.
Speaker 3: You know, I should be working when I'm doing something
Speaker 3: with the kids or I'm working, I'm like, I should
Speaker 3: be doing something with the kids.
Speaker 5: And then it's just good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think that's also the same. I
Speaker 2: mean when I was packing, studying lines and then finishing
Speaker 2: my book and then I had the kids there, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel so guilty because I have them. You know,
Speaker 2: I put the TV on for them. But then they're
Speaker 2: asking me questions and I'm like, I just need one hour,
Speaker 2: Like I will play with you, swim with you. I
Speaker 2: just need one hour. And it's like it's the It's
Speaker 2: funny because when you ask for one hour, it's the
Speaker 2: hardest hour to get. But then they'll play with by
Speaker 2: themselves for an hour when I don't ask them for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the piece.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is infuriating you guys just played for
Speaker 2: an hour by yourself when and I was like, and
Speaker 2: I usually just let them when I like see them,
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, this is this is great, but
Speaker 2: then I'm doing something else. But when I want to
Speaker 2: work for one hour, then it's like my mom my, ma, mama.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say that gets a little easier as
Speaker 3: they're older, Like, I mean, I have now threatened the
Speaker 3: six boys in my house than Ammy. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit better. Luckily, ramseason camp too,
Speaker 3: so that's a little helpful.
Speaker 1: But I mean I might as well just add a
Speaker 1: baby on top of all this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally fine, six kids, but don't let us work
Speaker 3: during the summer.
Speaker 2: Now, I think what I'm gonna have to do is uh?
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to hire help.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you will for sure. I mean it's
Speaker 5: like you're definitely gonna have the baby obviously full time.
Speaker 3: Obviously, yes, you know the other ta Can you imagine
Speaker 3: if I'm like, hey, Mike, here you go take the baby?
Speaker 4: Hey pretty well? Am I taking the baby for a week?
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 4: Has these?
Speaker 1: Do you want any want to have these?
Speaker 4: Uncle Mike?
Speaker 1: I want to you.
Speaker 3: The other day though, and I go, wait, I didn't
Speaker 3: have as a mental breakdown last summer.
Speaker 5: I was like, because we had fifty to fifty last summer.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I.
Speaker 5: Was like, you want to go back to that.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, what is something that you
Speaker 2: can do? Like can you do that? I know you
Speaker 2: said you want to get better at it? So is
Speaker 2: it a Catherine like take a take thirty like I
Speaker 2: don't know, an hour, thirty minutes like this is this
Speaker 2: is mom's time, like mom needs from this time to
Speaker 2: this time, and then you just like put your head
Speaker 2: in Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I don't do great with just like thirty minutes
Speaker 3: or an hour. My biggest thing, So yesterday I asked
Speaker 3: for it. I said I need everybody out so Nick
Speaker 3: took the puppy. They went to the farm and just
Speaker 3: stayed there all day because the puppy's also an element.
Speaker 3: And then Kateen came home from football but then immediately
Speaker 3: went with his friends, and then Andy was out and
Speaker 3: Ramsey was at camp. And so I do feel more
Speaker 3: refreshed today because I had that like nine to three,
Speaker 3: which sounds terrible, but like I just need, like I
Speaker 3: need a chunk of time one day and then I
Speaker 3: think I'm better the rest the other days.
Speaker 2: All right, good, So that's a since there's still so
Speaker 2: much summer left, that's a good little goal to go.
Speaker 2: But then also I think just to say too, just
Speaker 2: to have your back. Oh, emails pop up all the time, right,
Speaker 2: so it's it's socially like things come up, so you
Speaker 2: need you need more than the hour, So I get that.
Speaker 2: But we can do Friday at the pool like we
Speaker 2: talked about when I get back.
Speaker 3: Which will be helpful because then we'll be face to face, right,
Speaker 3: And then like one night. I used to do this
Speaker 3: a lot when I worked in an office, and then
Speaker 3: you know whatever, I one day I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to stress.
Speaker 5: I'm just going to make sure that my emails nothing's urgent.
Speaker 3: And then at night and I know that my pupil
Speaker 3: looks white email, but like sometimes then I can get.
Speaker 5: Quiet and then I just like do a bunch of
Speaker 5: work when everybody's in bed.
Speaker 1: Hey you do you do you? And whatever works for you.
Speaker 1: So anyway, cheers the summer, Cheers the summer.
Speaker 2: I think again, a lot of moms can relate to that.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, you just got to find
Speaker 2: that time. If it's one day, ask for whatever, like
Speaker 2: you got this. We are going to take a break
Speaker 2: and then we are going to get Kit Hoover on.
Speaker 2: Do you remember her cat?
Speaker 1: You've been with me when I've been around her before.
Speaker 5: I's much to say. I thought, yeah, I thought I had.
Speaker 2: So I was just with her back in when we
Speaker 2: were promoting the Mario Lopez movie. She's on Access Hollywood
Speaker 2: and Access Daily weekdays on NBC, but she's been a
Speaker 2: host for a really long time. She was on Fox
Speaker 2: News ESPN funny enough, our baby Mama isn't here, obviously,
Speaker 2: but Kit was also on MTVS. She was the first
Speaker 2: season of MTV's Road Roles. So that's crazy, I know,
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 1: But let's take a break and then get her on.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, sayank you. Last time I saw you, I had
Speaker 4: no idea this was coming. First of all, I have three.
Speaker 4: How excited are you? Well?
Speaker 1: That's I was so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Because you know, my bestie up there, Catherine, she's got three,
Speaker 2: and I'm now I'm just like, I just need to
Speaker 2: talk to moms that have three, because I just need
Speaker 2: to understand what And also I'm kind of worried about,
Speaker 2: you know, is the age gap too much or so
Speaker 2: I'm curious what's your age gap?
Speaker 4: And so first of all, how old are your other two?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: So, well, when he's born, my son will be my
Speaker 2: son will be turning five, and my daughter will be
Speaker 2: turning eight.
Speaker 4: Perfect. I think that's great. So mine are there's a
Speaker 4: four and five year age gap between. My daughters are
Speaker 4: twenty one twenty and then my son's sixteen. And the
Speaker 4: third though, Danna, you're just gonna it's like they're they're
Speaker 4: like the pet, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 4: such a nerd and such a dork. I stood outside
Speaker 4: her preschool class and just walked three hours like a lunatic.
Speaker 4: And then by the third literally He drove himself to
Speaker 4: school at like age seven, like I just got I honestly,
Speaker 4: I can't find him. He is so self sufficient. He
Speaker 4: does his laundry, he makes his breakfast. Really for a
Speaker 4: third little guy, it's so funny, it really is.
Speaker 1: It's so great.
Speaker 4: What about the pregnancy, Like, how are you feeling this time?
Speaker 2: I actually feel okay, I think, and just uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm older, so I'll be my due dates on my
Speaker 2: fortieth birthday. So I think that kind of makes.
Speaker 1: Me a little like, you know, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I could get you know, like I
Speaker 2: didn't think i'd get get pregnant. I just didn't think
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So it's just it's all just like wow, it's really
Speaker 2: just sinking in, like this is really happening.
Speaker 4: So I got access Hollywood at age forty. I'm going
Speaker 4: to be fifty three in July. Janna, You're gonna love
Speaker 4: your forties so much. And then the fifties I'm just
Speaker 4: obsessed with sort of everything comes into focus. You know
Speaker 4: where you're going, you know what you want to do.
Speaker 4: It is one of the best decades ever. I always
Speaker 4: say to age like gratefully, like, now you're gonna have
Speaker 4: three little chickens, right, unbelievable career. I just I'm so
Speaker 4: happy for you. I just wonder, I will say. With
Speaker 4: my third pregnancy, though, some stuff was a little more interesting,
Speaker 4: Like I had something going on down there that I
Speaker 4: call the bloomin onion. I don't know what happened, but
Speaker 4: there was a lot of pressure. And I had my
Speaker 4: girlfriend meet me at Grand Central station and like look
Speaker 4: under there, and she was like, oh, Nelly, I don't
Speaker 4: And my doctor was like, don't look below the belt,
Speaker 4: just say stay up here. So things are a little
Speaker 4: different as you get a little older with each pregnancy.
Speaker 1: How old were you with your third, so.
Speaker 4: Let's help me do the math here. So I was
Speaker 4: thirty eight maybe so about the same as you it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, I've got a hernia, I've got
Speaker 2: a large fibroid. I've got I mean like I've just
Speaker 2: got I'm like I look down the other day and
Speaker 2: I'm like, holy swollen good.
Speaker 4: And I thought are like stretch marks, which I didn't
Speaker 4: get with the first two. I just think my body
Speaker 4: was like here we go. I do think maybe I
Speaker 4: bounced back quicker or maybe I just was so focused
Speaker 4: on the other two and now this baby. Oh this
Speaker 4: was funny. Were you lucky enough to have a night
Speaker 4: nurse with your first two?
Speaker 2: So what we did is we did like two nights
Speaker 2: a week just to get a little sleep.
Speaker 1: But my fiance is like, no night nurse. I'm like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Like you don't like it's so I was like, it's
Speaker 2: so good for both of us to get sleep, Like
Speaker 2: even if it's just one night a week, like for
Speaker 2: the first month.
Speaker 4: Tell him to slow his role because with my first
Speaker 4: two we had no money. Oh there was no night nurse.
Speaker 4: And I remember I got mestitis and I was just like,
Speaker 4: this is exhausting. And I remember thinking, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: like I don't know how people do this. So with
Speaker 4: the third the same thing. I got mistitus. The breastfeeding
Speaker 4: thing was tough for me, and by that point I
Speaker 4: didn't care and I was like, I need a night nurse.
Speaker 4: And I'm not kidding Janet, like a fourteen year old
Speaker 4: somebody that I I showed to put my door, that's
Speaker 4: what I felt like. I didn't do any background check.
Speaker 4: I was like, nice to meet you, here's the baby,
Speaker 4: and it changed my life, like and the same thing.
Speaker 4: We did it two nights a week and it just
Speaker 4: allowed you to catch up. So for any mom if
Speaker 4: they're lucky enough. I know it's expensive and I couldn't
Speaker 4: do it my first two, but holy cow, that's a
Speaker 4: game changer. That's why fancy celebs can have all these
Speaker 4: babies because I'm like, oh my goodness, if I had
Speaker 4: a night nurse, I would have had seventeen.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, they're so expensive. But again, it's that's
Speaker 2: what I was trying to tell Alan. I'm like, babe,
Speaker 2: it's worth it, Like for you, you are going to
Speaker 2: be exhausted and then like that'll then affect just everything
Speaker 2: else the next day. So you know, like we just
Speaker 2: let's just let's just signure try it a better person.
Speaker 4: It's also did you have any postpartum with your other.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, luckily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had the random like I remember
Speaker 2: my ex walked in.
Speaker 1: I was just crying and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm crying, but it's just coming.
Speaker 4: Out, you know what. I think it's the sleep deprivation
Speaker 4: for a lot of us, right with those first who
Speaker 4: it's like, oh my god, it's just ground Paul Day right,
Speaker 4: just living for icemom. We used to live for nap
Speaker 4: time and when there was two naps, it was like yes,
Speaker 4: and then they go to one nap and then of course,
Speaker 4: wait till the teenagers like, oh, Nelly, it gets so fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kat Scotts, she's got a teenager.
Speaker 1: And then well, I guess Emmy as hell old out.
Speaker 3: She's eleven, so she's a preteen. Caden's sporteen, which I mean,
Speaker 3: he's great. I feel like boys, I don't know, they're
Speaker 3: not too crazy, not too hard, but I mean this
Speaker 3: year is like he's living his best life.
Speaker 5: He's the most.
Speaker 3: Social, like you go everywhere, wants to do everything, which
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 5: But I'm just like, I can't keep up with him.
Speaker 4: It's great. So Kat, tell me what you have, what
Speaker 4: ages and what sex?
Speaker 5: Fourteen year old boy, eleven year old girl, seven year
Speaker 5: old girl?
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's yeah. Boys I think are effortless. They're
Speaker 4: just on the move and so fun. I feel like
Speaker 4: my son's like a golden retriever, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: on the move. Wait till you get both of you
Speaker 4: and your daughters get teenagers. I thought, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: Campbell and Hayes are never going to turn on me, like,
Speaker 4: never go through that phase. Boom, was I wrong? They're
Speaker 4: going to go through it all. My best advice for
Speaker 4: both of y'all with middle school. I don't know why
Speaker 4: they saved me, but middle school girls they're just they
Speaker 4: can be nasty. There's a lot of like movement which
Speaker 4: I don't really remember as much in school, but maybe
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, waxing poetic and remembering it like
Speaker 4: it was all great. But I stayed home on Friday
Speaker 4: nights with my husband. I never asked my daughters if
Speaker 4: they had planned. I just felt like Friday, when I
Speaker 4: picked them up from middle school, I wanted to come
Speaker 4: home and let them have like a safe haven. So
Speaker 4: never asked they had plans. I always made like a
Speaker 4: fun dinner and we'd just put a movie on and
Speaker 4: not even ask like do you want to watch? Just
Speaker 4: make it so if they were home, it was effortlessly
Speaker 4: fun and it turned out to be great because that way,
Speaker 4: if they were ditched at school or if somebody was mean,
Speaker 4: Friday night just evolved. You know, it was just a
Speaker 4: fun family thing. So it was a really nice thing.
Speaker 4: Looking back. They both told me they didn't know that
Speaker 4: I was doing that by design. They're like, MOhm, that
Speaker 4: was awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: Never ask if they have plans, because if they don't,
Speaker 4: they already feel bad about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I just was of like, we're awesome. Like I just
Speaker 4: would pick them up, you know, go make our ice
Speaker 4: cream sundays, whip up a dinner. We'd put on Farris
Speaker 4: Fielder's Day Off or some silly movie and just made
Speaker 4: it like an effortless thing. And then sometimes they'd have
Speaker 4: friends over or not. But middle school girls are very funky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's already started for fifth grade for my daughter. Yes,
Speaker 5: this is crazy.
Speaker 3: And you know they have phone when where my daughter
Speaker 3: has a phone, and so I you know, I go
Speaker 3: through it and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not
Speaker 3: ready for middle school.
Speaker 5: If this is what's going to be, like, well.
Speaker 4: Think about it like when we were younger. And again
Speaker 4: I know I sound eighty seven, but like you never
Speaker 4: looked at pictures of yourself, right, I mean Schmer just
Speaker 4: did this in her stand up and it's so true,
Speaker 4: like you maybe had like one picture a year that
Speaker 4: or maybe two. If your friends developed now they're constantly
Speaker 4: looking comparing, know where everybody's going. I would hate that.
Speaker 4: I think I was oblivious to who was doing what it's.
Speaker 3: Been knowing where everyone's going that has just been the hardest.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's so true. Like you felt left
Speaker 3: out if you were at school and someone was leading
Speaker 3: you out. You didn't know what people were doing on
Speaker 3: the weekends and in the summer. But now everyone knows,
Speaker 3: and everyone's feelings are hurt, and I'm just like, it's
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 4: It's a lot. And again, my girls had social media
Speaker 4: way early in phones. I just sort of, you know,
Speaker 4: I kind of I never took it away or whatever.
Speaker 4: And then I had a deal when they were teenagers.
Speaker 4: I said, look, here's the deal. I'm not checking your
Speaker 4: phone unless you give me a reason too. But if
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a need, I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 4: Has you know, who knows what in the world. Sometimes
Speaker 4: they're they're going through but it's uh, well, guys, I'll
Speaker 4: be here for you for that, guys. Patience.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be like every year, I'm gonna be like, okay,
Speaker 2: am I on track?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Help me?
Speaker 4: But I always tell my girls too, I'm like, look,
Speaker 4: your looks are your least interesting thing about you? Like
Speaker 4: be kind, funny, aren't be like it's just you know
Speaker 4: this day and age, I think for both of you,
Speaker 4: just leading by example and laughing. I just god, they're
Speaker 4: so serious nowadays, So yeah, they really are. I just
Speaker 4: like humor for girls and a little bit of self deprecation,
Speaker 4: Like if you can laugh at yourself, you win, And
Speaker 4: I mean that in a healthy way. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: kind of it's a good thing for girls too.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Switching gears to the interviewing side of things. By the way,
Speaker 2: you are one of my favorite people to ever be
Speaker 2: with an in an interview or just like you're just
Speaker 2: your energy, all of it, Like I just I love you.
Speaker 2: Has it been because you've obviously done a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: Is there.
Speaker 2: Something that you're like, I would love to do this
Speaker 2: that I haven't done, Like would you want to have
Speaker 2: your own show? Or I know right now you're with Mario.
Speaker 2: Is there some like what are you like? This would
Speaker 2: be awesome?
Speaker 4: First of all, thank you for that, Dana. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I love interviewing people. I've never you know, I started
Speaker 4: in the Winnebago in TV, So for me, it was
Speaker 4: never about fame or looks or trying to do this.
Speaker 4: I really just like connecting with people. And I think
Speaker 4: my dream thing now would be, which is why this
Speaker 4: is so great, is do sort of a podcast with
Speaker 4: just straight interviews with women over forty fifty sixty kicking
Speaker 4: ass because I feel like it used to be as
Speaker 4: a woman you were dead in the water no matter
Speaker 4: what you did after thirty. I was just talking to
Speaker 4: Halle Berry about this and I'll like, you know what,
Speaker 4: and now she just did an MMA movie and nobody
Speaker 4: looks finer than her, and it's less about looks and
Speaker 4: more about an attitude. So I just think it's fascinating
Speaker 4: what women are doing. You're having your third baby at
Speaker 4: thirty nine or a right doing you turn forty, hitting
Speaker 4: the fourth level and your life is about to totally
Speaker 4: open up for you and Kat I don't know how
Speaker 4: you feel about that too, but I just I feel
Speaker 4: this resurgence, which is great for us and our daughters.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm gonna be fifty three and it
Speaker 4: feels like I honestly feel like I haven't even gotten started.
Speaker 4: For everything that I want to do, I think there's great, positive, fun,
Speaker 4: raw stories to tell. So I love that.
Speaker 2: Oh you would be amazing. I would listen to your
Speaker 2: podcast and Harpy, It'd be so good.
Speaker 4: I want to make it like The hen House, where
Speaker 4: like we get together with a big group find out,
Speaker 4: like what do we really want to know? Like I'm
Speaker 4: interviewing Janet Kramer, what do we want to know? When
Speaker 4: I get all the questions from everybody, right, and then
Speaker 4: we just dive in.
Speaker 1: Is it hard for you though?
Speaker 2: Like I remember when you interviewed me and my ax,
Speaker 2: Like is it hard for you to hold back on
Speaker 2: certain things you want to ask?
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm always for me. There's a couple of things.
Speaker 4: I'm not a gotcha person, and I feel like everybody's
Speaker 4: got a story that they can share what they want
Speaker 4: to share. So like when you were on with your ex,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be careful, right, there's human hearts involved,
Speaker 4: and especially if there's kids involved, and so I'm just
Speaker 4: never one I care about the person more than I
Speaker 4: do about the interview or the TV show or get
Speaker 4: in a moment, oh my gosh. And for y'all, I'm
Speaker 4: terrible on the red carpet because if you're talking to me,
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna not talk to you. And they're saying
Speaker 4: brad Ted's coming up behind you or whatever, like I can't.
Speaker 4: I just want to be present with whoever I am
Speaker 4: because I wouldn't want that to be me that somebody
Speaker 4: like ditches to go to a bigger person. So in
Speaker 4: red carpet they're like, you're too long with Like, like
Speaker 4: whoever I'm with, I can't. I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to make them feel bad because I'd be that person,
Speaker 4: you know. And I also I feel like if somebody,
Speaker 4: especially when I'm live, if somebody says something natural protector like,
Speaker 4: I just want to jump in and make sure they're okay.
Speaker 2: So you're and you're great with that because there's so
Speaker 2: many like you know, which outlet's going to go try
Speaker 2: and like dig it in to get the story, and
Speaker 2: you were so respectful. I think that's why I've always
Speaker 2: just loved loved you.
Speaker 3: On that note, have there been any certain celebrities that
Speaker 3: have just been outright rude to you?
Speaker 5: And let me think, let me think, I love these questions.
Speaker 4: You know what, I know, same, same, same, and I
Speaker 4: want to give you an honest answer. The funny thing
Speaker 4: with me, and this is with friendships and everything, I
Speaker 4: sort of always forget if anybody's bad, and I just
Speaker 4: sort of my add I'm just like onto the next
Speaker 4: like squirrel, So I forget a lot too. I'm going
Speaker 4: to think about somebody as I'm thinking about that. A
Speaker 4: funny one though, y'all, is I was on the red
Speaker 4: carpet with Mario for that I think it was the
Speaker 4: Golden Globes, and I really wanted to interview Brad Pitt.
Speaker 4: I was like, I was set for him, but at
Speaker 4: the time that Brad Pitt came up I was interviewing,
Speaker 4: I forgot who it was and said Brad Pitt went
Speaker 4: to Mario and Mario did a great interview with him. So, y'all.
Speaker 4: Then I started drinking champagne on the red carpet. So
Speaker 4: it's wrapped and I go to leave and I bump
Speaker 4: right into Brad like this, and I panic and I say, hey,
Speaker 4: Brad kit Pit here, I'm like, and he said what
Speaker 4: he stops and he's like maiden or married, and I
Speaker 4: said maiden and I was like, And then I followed
Speaker 4: up with and I love architecture and a lot of children,
Speaker 4: and my producer's like, what are you doing? And then
Speaker 4: the paparazzi started snapping pictures of us and I am
Speaker 4: smiling like the cat he wait, the canary right there
Speaker 4: like y And then his people were like, we got
Speaker 4: to get you away from this lunatic. So it was
Speaker 4: one of the funniest Like I just sort of geeked out.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, and I went full kit pit. Okay,
Speaker 4: let me think. I'm trying to think of who's been
Speaker 4: who's been rude. I don't want say this is rude,
Speaker 4: but it was the first the only person when we
Speaker 4: were live that moved where they wanted to sit. And
Speaker 4: keep in mind, on our show, we've had George Clooney,
Speaker 4: Julia Roberts, Matthew McConaughey, like all these big names, and
Speaker 4: Ariana Grande back in the day was the only one
Speaker 4: that didn't like her angle. And I want to say,
Speaker 4: at the time, I think she was on the Disney Show,
Speaker 4: like she didn't really hit where she is yet. And
Speaker 4: she was also just so young, like I mean, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't know which side I've got it, you know, but
Speaker 4: she was the one that like needed certain things which
Speaker 4: I just found interesting.
Speaker 2: It's like being on Regis and uh, well now Mark
Speaker 2: or sorry Kelly and Mark and being like can I
Speaker 2: take can I take your ce Kelly?
Speaker 4: I always say it, it's like the sit and what well, Jenna?
Speaker 4: What about for you? On the opposite end, who's been rude?
Speaker 4: With the interviews You've had to navigate and you've had
Speaker 4: to You've been so raw and vulnerable and real, which
Speaker 4: I always appreciate as an interviewer or just somebody. That's
Speaker 4: that's why so many people love you too, and your
Speaker 4: music translates. Who's been kind of do she to you?
Speaker 2: I would say it's more reporters. Like there's a certain
Speaker 2: reporter that I have a really hard time with because
Speaker 2: something had happened and I even sent her proof of
Speaker 2: something like this is not true. Why would you run
Speaker 2: the story? AND's she goes, well, you can post about
Speaker 2: it on your story and then I'll run that. I
Speaker 2: go all you care about is the drama?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I literally just sent you proof of something and
Speaker 1: you're still going to run this other story. How could
Speaker 1: you do that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: And so that was just like, oh my god, they
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 2: So it was a publication that I was so I
Speaker 2: try to really steer away from that publication now.
Speaker 4: Like again, it goes back to like the middle school
Speaker 4: like that people just.
Speaker 1: Want the drama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would say, I mean, I'd have to
Speaker 2: think back to but normally. And Kat is also like
Speaker 2: my day day manager. She's pretty like good, you know.
Speaker 2: And I also, like, I'm very open about things. So
Speaker 2: I get you asking the question because I've been open,
Speaker 2: so I don't fault someone for bringing up something.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I've put it out there, so it's now mine to
Speaker 2: then go, Okay, I've kind of moved on. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to talk about it or I'm just going to
Speaker 2: give a little snippet just because I get the question,
Speaker 2: you know, so let me now how to figure out how?
Speaker 2: And I think that's what I had to learn, is
Speaker 2: how now I have to answer things.
Speaker 4: Well, you're become so great at it, and again, never
Speaker 4: stop being raw and real. I think that's kind of
Speaker 4: all we have. And keep good people like Kat in
Speaker 4: your corner. I think that's it too, right. For sure,
Speaker 4: many people are around you, but it's the business has
Speaker 4: become so crazy and when I started it was very different,
Speaker 4: and coming from sports was different because athletes are a
Speaker 4: different perspective of what you're trying to get. By the way,
Speaker 4: I look so sporty that you know.
Speaker 1: It looks so cute on a run after this.
Speaker 4: So I was like, Okay, let me just do it.
Speaker 4: But I was so excited to talk to you. But
Speaker 4: so your athletes are different than celebrities, and musicians are different.
Speaker 4: Now you're both with the celebrity.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Cat Katherine, you we were before
Speaker 2: the show. We were talking about the view and so Kay,
Speaker 2: I know you wanted to ask her a question about that.
Speaker 3: So curious how that was, because it just every time
Speaker 3: I watch it, I'm like, I can't keep up, Like
Speaker 3: there's so much fighting, there's so many different Like how
Speaker 3: was that co hosting of.
Speaker 4: You, Kat Jannet? Let me tell you so. First of all,
Speaker 4: I had just had my first baby. So this is
Speaker 4: twenty years ago and I was on with Barbara star
Speaker 4: Joy in Meredith Okay, so like the ogs and I'm
Speaker 4: so young, and I think they thought I'm from Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I think they thought, Okay, here comes this like conservative Republican,
Speaker 4: which I don't even know what I was at the time,
Speaker 4: but I think they wanted me in a box. I
Speaker 4: was scared to death, y'all. The funniest thing was I
Speaker 4: agree with everybody. Yep, yes, Starr. You were in the backup,
Speaker 4: see Barbara were like. I was like, I am not
Speaker 4: doing this, and so I had my parents watch because
Speaker 4: they had made me an offer, and my dad was like, no,
Speaker 4: they are going this isn't your fact. I'm not a
Speaker 4: naturally conflict person. I don't enjoy fighting or you know,
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. So they were wonderful with
Speaker 4: me on, but I didn't get into it. You know what,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump came on, isn't that hysterical? And I just
Speaker 4: remember Meredith and I pulling his hair. That was oh.
Speaker 4: And Sharon Stone came on, who I just love and
Speaker 4: I'll never forget. And I hope if she hears this,
Speaker 4: this is out a respect, not disrespect. I'm backstage and
Speaker 4: right before she walks out, she goes like this and
Speaker 4: then walks Nobra on and I thought, well you go,
Speaker 4: and I thought she looked fabulous.
Speaker 2: Well you can't have you know, hard titties on uh
Speaker 2: National TV.
Speaker 4: Like oh I love her love, oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I always because I I'll sometimes turn the
Speaker 2: view on and a part of me always have I've
Speaker 2: one of my little goals or future things as I'd
Speaker 2: love to be on a round table.
Speaker 1: I just think it'd be so much fun.
Speaker 2: But that's the one round table that I just feel
Speaker 2: like i'd get eaten alive at because I almost feel
Speaker 2: like if you don't agree with their stuff, you're just
Speaker 2: gonna get yelled at and hated, and I that piece
Speaker 2: I just don't like. I'm like, can we just agree
Speaker 2: to disagree and be kind when we do that?
Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent. And on that, I mean you've
Speaker 4: seen kind of the younger person in the seat. It's
Speaker 4: funny for me to y'all because I was always like
Speaker 4: the young one, like they brought me around twice for
Speaker 4: each time to go on that. And now I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh wait, I'm not that would be the young Like
Speaker 4: I'm the old bird in the seat, like that's how
Speaker 4: much time go by, which just cracks me up. But
Speaker 4: you're right, that is one. Now the talk is different
Speaker 4: because that's a great pan. I love that small guaranteee friendship.
Speaker 4: What's in the zeitgeys that kind of thing. But yeah,
Speaker 4: but the view is Wow, They've got a great group
Speaker 4: around there and a good table. But for me, it
Speaker 4: was not a good fit. What's funny with life is
Speaker 4: when it came around the second time and they were
Speaker 4: interested in me. Now I'd had no I'm pregnant with
Speaker 4: my second daughter. The same time, ESPN came to me
Speaker 4: about hosting this two hour live sports show seven to
Speaker 4: nine in the morning called Cold Pizza, y'all. At this point,
Speaker 4: I had never been teleprompter. I'd never done live TV.
Speaker 4: I love sports, but I don't know it like my
Speaker 4: husband does. Why I thought this was a good idea.
Speaker 4: I'm just dumb enough to like leap without looking that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I'll try this. So it was new baby.
Speaker 4: I went to work after three weeks, Danna Kat, I'd
Speaker 4: never like live TV is a nuanced thing, like you
Speaker 4: got to know your thing. You got to know prompter,
Speaker 4: you got to know that opening music would start and
Speaker 4: sweat would go down my back. I did not know
Speaker 4: what I was doing, and the joke was they thought
Speaker 4: i'd get better a little quicker. It took a long
Speaker 4: time for me. I think it was like six months,
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, I kind of know what
Speaker 4: I'm doing, but two Hours Live was crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, look at you now, you're absolutely
Speaker 2: crushing it, and you know you're I really hope you
Speaker 2: do the podcast too, because it is it's inspiring people
Speaker 2: to go because I know there's things that you know,
Speaker 2: maybe Kat want to do, my Chris and are their
Speaker 2: co hosts that just had a baby, like, there's things
Speaker 2: that we all want to do, but we feel, well,
Speaker 2: I'm forty, it's never it's probably not going to happen now,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, you're you're proving that wrong and
Speaker 2: you're going to have people come on that that also
Speaker 2: proved that wrong. So I think I would keyes do
Speaker 2: the podcast one thousand percent. And what's funny, So at
Speaker 2: age forty, the joke was, at the time of my life,
Speaker 2: I had three kids, our house had just burned down,
Speaker 2: which is a whole other side thing.
Speaker 4: And so the joke is that I said to my
Speaker 4: agents like, hold all calls, I'm gonna I'm going to
Speaker 4: take a personal beat. But the reality Cat and Jane,
Speaker 4: nobody was calling, nobody was looking for me, like nothing,
Speaker 4: And then randomly I got this call for Access Hollywood,
Speaker 4: and I only took it and moms can relate to
Speaker 4: this to get away for the kids and like a
Speaker 4: free trip to California we had, you know. So I
Speaker 4: was like, I was like, I don't even care, just
Speaker 4: take me to California for the interview. I went in
Speaker 4: like this baseball had no makeup. I had strap throat actually,
Speaker 4: and I was like, and everybody was real fancy in
Speaker 4: this audition and like I was like, I had my
Speaker 4: shoes that I just got it PJ Max, and I
Speaker 4: had tanned myself, so my legs were real slippery, and
Speaker 4: I botched the audition. And then afterwards they brought me
Speaker 4: in and talked to me for a couple hours and
Speaker 4: then I was like, wait, do y'all like like, are
Speaker 4: you interested in me? And so the rest is history.
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, we have someone that wants to
Speaker 1: say hi to you too, because you were her former boss.
Speaker 4: Hannah wakeo, man, this better for you. Hannah was my
Speaker 4: actually my second assistant, right because crazy Nadine Nadini left
Speaker 4: and Hannah came and changed my life. Yeah for three years. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Winkelman is such a star. And I remember she was
Speaker 4: dating the cutest boy way back when. Now her husband
Speaker 4: and they're baby. I'm obsessed with Hannah. All I was
Speaker 4: thinking is how happy your mom must be. She's very excited.
Speaker 4: She comes out to La about every three weeks like
Speaker 4: she can't and Kat and Jane and I will be realistic.
Speaker 4: Not everybody has like a cute baby. He is literally
Speaker 4: a super mid I cannot get enough. I want to
Speaker 4: eat up that little face.
Speaker 6: Chris had said that he was like, I think the
Speaker 6: only person who thinks he's cuter than you might be
Speaker 6: Kit Hoover.
Speaker 4: I'm like, not everybody's got that. Wait, Hannah, and look
Speaker 4: and now you're EP and you're doing so great at
Speaker 4: work and have such a great life. I'm so happy
Speaker 4: for you. Thank you.
Speaker 6: It's so good to see you. I'm so happy you're
Speaker 6: still doing well. And the kids and how about the kids,
Speaker 6: Camberlin Hayes. I was just telling them that you're EP
Speaker 6: of this podcast and I was going to get to
Speaker 6: see you, and they were like, oh my gosh. She
Speaker 6: was so nice at all the ihearts been used and
Speaker 6: all that.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, Hannah.
Speaker 6: It's been a while ride, but a fun fact Kit
Speaker 6: introduced me to Amy Sugarman, who oh.
Speaker 4: All the pod go and you know what I always
Speaker 4: say about hand drive and commitment. She was always the
Speaker 4: hardest worker, up for anything and for anybody getting in
Speaker 4: whatever business you are, Like, Hannah, you couldn't have predicted
Speaker 4: this would be your trajectory, so I think it's so awesome.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's so good to see you. Baby. Is
Speaker 4: he close? He's napping? Wake him up. I'm kidding, don't
Speaker 4: wake a baby. I know we'll have to come visit
Speaker 4: you and the Access crew. Please do, Hannah, you won't recognize.
Speaker 4: It's all new people. I'm last man standing. We love
Speaker 4: Bob and Weave.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much and I'll hopefully see you when
Speaker 1: the baby's out.
Speaker 4: Thanks Jana, listen, good luck with everything. I hope you
Speaker 4: feel good, get a lot of foot massages and just
Speaker 4: enjoy third is so much fun. Okay, thanks guys, Thanks
Speaker 4: Thanks Janna, Thanks kat Y, nice to meet you, and
Speaker 4: bye bye, guys.
Speaker 2: I love her so much. Like my cheeks hurt from smiling.
Speaker 5: Her energy is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just she just is so and that's how
Speaker 2: she is too in just interviews too, and just how
Speaker 2: she is every time I see. She's always kind, she's
Speaker 2: always nice.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you remember her now when we went
Speaker 1: to do the Mario thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the fact that she couldn't even really
Speaker 3: think about who is rude to her because she just
Speaker 3: like moves on from it. I'm like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: that way, like not even remember.
Speaker 5: Anyone that's rude to me. Like I love that. It's
Speaker 5: such a good quality, so true.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I love her so much, and
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, because I sometimes think that we go, oh,
Speaker 2: it's too late, but it's never too late.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, yeah, never loving I love it.
Speaker 2: Well, since I can't have my big fortieth blowout, we're
Speaker 2: going to have a mad fifty.
Speaker 4: So that's good because I honestly can't afford my fortieth
Speaker 4: birthday party anymore with the new house.
Speaker 5: So I think it's because you're having anything under.
Speaker 1: A little bit above.
Speaker 2: I can't do it all and then plan a wedding
Speaker 2: and have the wedding expense there was there We go,
Speaker 2: oh man, all right, well we will see you next week.