WEBVTT - Three’s Company with Kit Hoover 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.399 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.160 So welcome to wind Down. It's me and Kitty Gat. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.840 Kitty Gat, So what you got going on there? 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.479 Girl? Dude? Is it just me? 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.400 Or Summer's the most stressful thing ever? I mean, I 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.360 don't know what I think. I'm on the like the 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.160 verge already of a mental breakdown. It usually doesn't happen 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:31.960 this early, so. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.120 To explain and talk to me. I mean, I have 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.120 my thoughts as well, but talk. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.080 I just I love being busy. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:40.400 I thrive on that. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.120 But I think at least during the school year, I 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.640 get it, like time. I'm just such an introvert and 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.159 I need such time on my own that at least 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.280 during the school year, I've got while they're in school 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.040 to get work done, to get laundry done, to do whatever, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.080 and then we can be crazy in the afternoons. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.920 That's fine, But now it's like go go, go, go go. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:00.360 Oh. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.920 I just I literally lost it the other day. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.200 I felt terrible what happened. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.320 Emmy was like, you know, we've got the new puppy, 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.720 and she had him and then she gave him to 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.679 Ramsey and then no one could find the dog, and 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.319 she's like sitting there trying to explain to me the 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.959 whole thing, and I just was like, just find the dog. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.319 But I yelled at her and I felt terrible. But 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.400 I looked at Nick and I was like, mental breakdown. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.320 He's like, it's coming earlier this year. Yeah, I just 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.720 don't do summer as well. I don't. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.040 First question, did you find the dog? 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.960 Yeah, he was in the house. He was lost, running 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:37.400 around getting hit by a car. That's why I was 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.920 screaming at her. But apparently Ramsey did do what she 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:41.920 was supposed to and brought him in. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.200 So does it not get easier than when the kids 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:46.840 get older because they've got friends to play with? 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.240 So you would think, so I thought, and for a 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.440 short time it kind of did. The problem is is like, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.040 for instance, right now, I think I have five boys 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.200 at my house that I just threatened out of my 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.960 kitchen and like one you cannot speak, you can't do anything. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.480 You know, any had friends, you. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.200 Know, it's just like they're all at my house all 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.560 the time, or it's driving them, like they just make 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.200 all the plans like I need you driving here and 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.200 driving here and driving here, and it's just it's a lot. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.840 It's just it literally is enough to like, yeah, Mike. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.799 I feel like so many people can relate to that, though, And. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:26.400 How do I say this. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.239 In my situation, it's a little different because our summer 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:35.320 schedule's week on, week off. Now, last year I made 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:41.200 the mistake of and you you warned me against it, you, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.800 but I I have you know, normally I don't go 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.880 a week ever without seeing the kids. In our parenting plan, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.480 it's always every Wednesday and every other Friday Saturday. And 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.600 so with summer, I remember, it's stressing me out so bad, 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.480 like I'm going to go a week without seeing my kids, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.240 Like this is going to be awful. So I decided 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.480 that we could have the kids just come to my 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.720 house while he's working on my non weeks so I 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.040 can at least see the kids. Well, then when I 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.959 had my week, I didn't have any help, so it's 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.639 like I never really got a break. And then I 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.200 felt that kind of what you were feeling, just like, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.240 and they're littles too, so it's even so that adds 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.640 its own element of hard. And so this year I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.840 was like, Nope, you can't, even though I want them, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.520 I want to see them but I also know the 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.960 importance of that break because if not like, yes, you're 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.000 I'm going to have that mental crack. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:36.920 Yeah. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.480 Well, and even if you have help in that week, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.240 especially with the littles, it don't you're still coming mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:44.520 You know. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.800 So it's like, I don't think people fully understand that. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:47.480 You know. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.120 It's like, because you know, so many people are like, well, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.720 you're fortunate to have help because there's been there's been 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.040 summers where I've had a nanny or I've had help 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.000 or whatever. It's like, but if they're in the house, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.800 it doesn't really matter because they're just constantly coming up 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.440 to you and constantly needing something. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.280 One million percent, Yeah, because I would have someone help 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.440 on his weeks. But yeah, I'm like, well, I might 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.760 as well not even have this person here because they're 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.120 coming to ask me questions twenty four to seven. So 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.840 and that's the same thing with kind of summer. Now 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.800 it's Jace is so he has to be so active. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.839 Like even when I brought him on set, like Jolie 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.960 was the best set kid. She just like would just 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.279 sit there in color and watch Jace. He was there 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.360 for five minutes, He's like. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.400 I bored. I want to go home or can we 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:32.920 go somewhere. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.600 So I'm like, oh man, So that's another reason why too, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.280 where the set time got cut a little short because 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.400 so now in summer I'm like, all right, on my weeks, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.320 like we have to be doing something because he's just 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.880 very like wants to be like active and going. But 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.839 then I'm like, all right, for that week I can't work. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.320 I will say, you're very good at like delegating your 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.880 time with that, and I think that because I mean, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.200 i mean you're very like, I know, like, okay, you 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.200 have the kids in the summer, like at this time 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:03.719 we can talk about work or whatever. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.680 I'm not good at that and I need to get 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.000 better at that. So then I just get stressed. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.400 You know, I should be working when I'm doing something 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.080 with the kids or I'm working, I'm like, I should 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:13.240 be doing something with the kids. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.200 And then it's just good. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:14.720 Yeah. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.240 Well, I mean I think that's also the same. I 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.240 mean when I was packing, studying lines and then finishing 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.839 my book and then I had the kids there, I'm like, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.080 I feel so guilty because I have them. You know, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.720 I put the TV on for them. But then they're 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.760 asking me questions and I'm like, I just need one hour, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.400 Like I will play with you, swim with you. I 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.320 just need one hour. And it's like it's the It's 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.560 funny because when you ask for one hour, it's the 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.000 hardest hour to get. But then they'll play with by 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.320 themselves for an hour when I don't ask them for that. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.239 Yeah, that's the piece. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.680 I'm like, this is infuriating you guys just played for 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.359 an hour by yourself when and I was like, and 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.560 I usually just let them when I like see them, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.760 I'm like, all right, this is this is great, but 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.480 then I'm doing something else. But when I want to 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.960 work for one hour, then it's like my mom my, ma, mama. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:00.960 Yeah. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.320 Yeah, I will say that gets a little easier as 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.760 they're older, Like, I mean, I have now threatened the 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.800 six boys in my house than Ammy. I'm like, you know, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.960 it's it's a little bit better. Luckily, ramseason camp too, 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:12.880 so that's a little helpful. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.760 But I mean I might as well just add a 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:15.880 baby on top of all this. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.400 Yeah, totally fine, six kids, but don't let us work 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.040 during the summer. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.720 Now, I think what I'm gonna have to do is uh? 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.799 I think I'm gonna have to hire help. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:32.400 Yeah, I think you will for sure. I mean it's 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.880 like you're definitely gonna have the baby obviously full time. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.200 Obviously, yes, you know the other ta Can you imagine 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.960 if I'm like, hey, Mike, here you go take the baby? 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.640 Hey pretty well? Am I taking the baby for a week? 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:48.800 There you go? 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:50.880 Has these? 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.159 Do you want any want to have these? 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:52.920 Uncle Mike? 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:53.760 I want to you. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.360 The other day though, and I go, wait, I didn't 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.720 have as a mental breakdown last summer. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.080 I was like, because we had fifty to fifty last summer. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.960 Oh wow, I. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.080 Was like, you want to go back to that. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:11.880 I was just gonna say, what is something that you 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.440 can do? Like can you do that? I know you 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.760 said you want to get better at it? So is 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.960 it a Catherine like take a take thirty like I 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.800 don't know, an hour, thirty minutes like this is this 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.280 is mom's time, like mom needs from this time to 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.040 this time, and then you just like put your head 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.160 in Yeah. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.320 So I don't do great with just like thirty minutes 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:35.400 or an hour. My biggest thing, So yesterday I asked 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.640 for it. I said I need everybody out so Nick 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.080 took the puppy. They went to the farm and just 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.440 stayed there all day because the puppy's also an element. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.600 And then Kateen came home from football but then immediately 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.920 went with his friends, and then Andy was out and 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.280 Ramsey was at camp. And so I do feel more 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.600 refreshed today because I had that like nine to three, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.680 which sounds terrible, but like I just need, like I 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.320 need a chunk of time one day and then I 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.960 think I'm better the rest the other days. 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.080 All right, good, So that's a since there's still so 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.960 much summer left, that's a good little goal to go. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.040 But then also I think just to say too, just 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.760 to have your back. Oh, emails pop up all the time, right, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.800 so it's it's socially like things come up, so you 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.560 need you need more than the hour, So I get that. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.880 But we can do Friday at the pool like we 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.720 talked about when I get back. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.360 Which will be helpful because then we'll be face to face, right, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.520 And then like one night. I used to do this 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.559 a lot when I worked in an office, and then 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.840 you know whatever, I one day I was like, Okay, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:40.600 I'm not going to stress. 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.720 I'm just going to make sure that my emails nothing's urgent. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.920 And then at night and I know that my pupil 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.040 looks white email, but like sometimes then I can get. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.880 Quiet and then I just like do a bunch of 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.280 work when everybody's in bed. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.600 Hey you do you do you? And whatever works for you. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.440 So anyway, cheers the summer, Cheers the summer. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.160 I think again, a lot of moms can relate to that. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.960 And I think, you know, you just got to find 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:07.160 that time. If it's one day, ask for whatever, like 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.520 you got this. We are going to take a break 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.320 and then we are going to get Kit Hoover on. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:15.680 Do you remember her cat? 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.840 You've been with me when I've been around her before. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.360 I's much to say. I thought, yeah, I thought I had. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.400 So I was just with her back in when we 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:28.200 were promoting the Mario Lopez movie. She's on Access Hollywood 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.120 and Access Daily weekdays on NBC, but she's been a 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.839 host for a really long time. She was on Fox 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:38.800 News ESPN funny enough, our baby Mama isn't here, obviously, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.120 but Kit was also on MTVS. She was the first 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.880 season of MTV's Road Roles. So that's crazy, I know, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:46.960 so funny. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:48.840 But let's take a break and then get her on. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:08.680 Congratulations, sayank you. Last time I saw you, I had 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.360 no idea this was coming. First of all, I have three. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.040 How excited are you? Well? 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.320 That's I was so excited to talk to you. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.800 Because you know, my bestie up there, Catherine, she's got three, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.559 and I'm now I'm just like, I just need to 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.319 talk to moms that have three, because I just need 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.880 to understand what And also I'm kind of worried about, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.120 you know, is the age gap too much or so 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.920 I'm curious what's your age gap? 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.720 And so first of all, how old are your other two? 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:37.280 Right? 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:43.680 So, well, when he's born, my son will be my 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.080 son will be turning five, and my daughter will be 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:46.720 turning eight. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.800 Perfect. I think that's great. So mine are there's a 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.720 four and five year age gap between. My daughters are 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.959 twenty one twenty and then my son's sixteen. And the 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.680 third though, Danna, you're just gonna it's like they're they're 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.160 like the pet, you know what I mean. I was 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.920 such a nerd and such a dork. I stood outside 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.319 her preschool class and just walked three hours like a lunatic. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.880 And then by the third literally He drove himself to 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.760 school at like age seven, like I just got I honestly, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.880 I can't find him. He is so self sufficient. He 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.160 does his laundry, he makes his breakfast. Really for a 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.920 third little guy, it's so funny, it really is. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:26.800 It's so great. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.240 What about the pregnancy, Like, how are you feeling this time? 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.160 I actually feel okay, I think, and just uh, you know, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.440 I'm older, so I'll be my due dates on my 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.160 fortieth birthday. So I think that kind of makes. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.840 Me a little like, you know, I didn't. I didn't. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.439 I didn't think I could get you know, like I 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.880 didn't think i'd get get pregnant. I just didn't think 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:51.440 I could. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:52.720 I don't know. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.800 So it's just it's all just like wow, it's really 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.000 just sinking in, like this is really happening. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.280 So I got access Hollywood at age forty. I'm going 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.040 to be fifty three in July. Janna, You're gonna love 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.040 your forties so much. And then the fifties I'm just 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.560 obsessed with sort of everything comes into focus. You know 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.600 where you're going, you know what you want to do. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.120 It is one of the best decades ever. I always 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.880 say to age like gratefully, like, now you're gonna have 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:23.640 three little chickens, right, unbelievable career. I just I'm so 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.000 happy for you. I just wonder, I will say. With 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.439 my third pregnancy, though, some stuff was a little more interesting, 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.440 Like I had something going on down there that I 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.480 call the bloomin onion. I don't know what happened, but 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:35.880 there was a lot of pressure. And I had my 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:39.280 girlfriend meet me at Grand Central station and like look 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.480 under there, and she was like, oh, Nelly, I don't 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.480 And my doctor was like, don't look below the belt, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.480 just say stay up here. So things are a little 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.439 different as you get a little older with each pregnancy. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.760 How old were you with your third, so. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.160 Let's help me do the math here. So I was 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.960 thirty eight maybe so about the same as you it was. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.520 I mean, I agree, I've got a hernia, I've got 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.480 a large fibroid. I've got I mean like I've just 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.920 got I'm like I look down the other day and 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.440 I'm like, holy swollen good. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.679 And I thought are like stretch marks, which I didn't 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.680 get with the first two. I just think my body 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.960 was like here we go. I do think maybe I 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.120 bounced back quicker or maybe I just was so focused 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.400 on the other two and now this baby. Oh this 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.079 was funny. Were you lucky enough to have a night 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.280 nurse with your first two? 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.680 So what we did is we did like two nights 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.960 a week just to get a little sleep. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.640 But my fiance is like, no night nurse. I'm like no, no, no, no. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.880 Like you don't like it's so I was like, it's 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.640 so good for both of us to get sleep, Like 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.320 even if it's just one night a week, like for 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:46.000 the first month. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:51.160 Tell him to slow his role because with my first 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.400 two we had no money. Oh there was no night nurse. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.679 And I remember I got mestitis and I was just like, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.000 this is exhausting. And I remember thinking, oh my goodness, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.680 like I don't know how people do this. So with 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.840 the third the same thing. I got mistitus. The breastfeeding 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.560 thing was tough for me, and by that point I 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.560 didn't care and I was like, I need a night nurse. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.560 And I'm not kidding Janet, like a fourteen year old 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.360 somebody that I I showed to put my door, that's 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.640 what I felt like. I didn't do any background check. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.280 I was like, nice to meet you, here's the baby, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.120 and it changed my life, like and the same thing. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.400 We did it two nights a week and it just 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.440 allowed you to catch up. So for any mom if 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.680 they're lucky enough. I know it's expensive and I couldn't 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.240 do it my first two, but holy cow, that's a 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.280 game changer. That's why fancy celebs can have all these 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.480 babies because I'm like, oh my goodness, if I had 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.080 a night nurse, I would have had seventeen. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:41.320 You know what I mean. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.840 Yeah, but yeah, they're so expensive. But again, it's that's 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.320 what I was trying to tell Alan. I'm like, babe, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.080 it's worth it, Like for you, you are going to 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.240 be exhausted and then like that'll then affect just everything 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.400 else the next day. So you know, like we just 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.800 let's just let's just signure try it a better person. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.040 It's also did you have any postpartum with your other. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.680 I didn't know, luckily. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.920 Yeah, I mean I had the random like I remember 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:09.560 my ex walked in. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:10.960 I was just crying and I was like, I don't 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.120 even know why I'm crying, but it's just coming. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:17.120 Out, you know what. I think it's the sleep deprivation 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.440 for a lot of us, right with those first who 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.320 it's like, oh my god, it's just ground Paul Day right, 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.840 just living for icemom. We used to live for nap 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.600 time and when there was two naps, it was like yes, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.840 and then they go to one nap and then of course, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.200 wait till the teenagers like, oh, Nelly, it gets so fun. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.840 Yeah, Kat Scotts, she's got a teenager. 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.000 And then well, I guess Emmy as hell old out. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.760 She's eleven, so she's a preteen. Caden's sporteen, which I mean, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.840 he's great. I feel like boys, I don't know, they're 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.360 not too crazy, not too hard, but I mean this 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.640 year is like he's living his best life. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:52.440 He's the most. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.760 Social, like you go everywhere, wants to do everything, which 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:57.120 I love. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.640 But I'm just like, I can't keep up with him. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.640 It's great. So Kat, tell me what you have, what 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.800 ages and what sex? 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:07.120 Fourteen year old boy, eleven year old girl, seven year 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:07.560 old girl? 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.120 Okay, so that's yeah. Boys I think are effortless. They're 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.680 just on the move and so fun. I feel like 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.880 my son's like a golden retriever, you know what I mean, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.320 on the move. Wait till you get both of you 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.240 and your daughters get teenagers. I thought, oh my gosh, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.400 Campbell and Hayes are never going to turn on me, like, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.800 never go through that phase. Boom, was I wrong? They're 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.840 going to go through it all. My best advice for 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.080 both of y'all with middle school. I don't know why 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.960 they saved me, but middle school girls they're just they 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.160 can be nasty. There's a lot of like movement which 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.720 I don't really remember as much in school, but maybe 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.600 I'm just you know, waxing poetic and remembering it like 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.440 it was all great. But I stayed home on Friday 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.720 nights with my husband. I never asked my daughters if 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.160 they had planned. I just felt like Friday, when I 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.640 picked them up from middle school, I wanted to come 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.160 home and let them have like a safe haven. So 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.560 never asked they had plans. I always made like a 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.720 fun dinner and we'd just put a movie on and 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.399 not even ask like do you want to watch? Just 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.360 make it so if they were home, it was effortlessly 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.600 fun and it turned out to be great because that way, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.000 if they were ditched at school or if somebody was mean, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.239 Friday night just evolved. You know, it was just a 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.600 fun family thing. So it was a really nice thing. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.000 Looking back. They both told me they didn't know that 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.960 I was doing that by design. They're like, MOhm, that 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:24.520 was awesome. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:25.639 Oh I love that. 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:27.200 Yeah, that's great. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.400 Never ask if they have plans, because if they don't, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.480 they already feel bad about it, you know what I mean. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.199 I just was of like, we're awesome. Like I just 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.360 would pick them up, you know, go make our ice 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.800 cream sundays, whip up a dinner. We'd put on Farris 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.680 Fielder's Day Off or some silly movie and just made 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.199 it like an effortless thing. And then sometimes they'd have 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.680 friends over or not. But middle school girls are very funky. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.399 Yeah, that's already started for fifth grade for my daughter. Yes, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.520 this is crazy. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.359 And you know they have phone when where my daughter 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.360 has a phone, and so I you know, I go 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.960 through it and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:00.840 ready for middle school. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.880 If this is what's going to be, like, well. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.320 Think about it like when we were younger. And again 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.160 I know I sound eighty seven, but like you never 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.960 looked at pictures of yourself, right, I mean Schmer just 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.720 did this in her stand up and it's so true, 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.639 like you maybe had like one picture a year that 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.119 or maybe two. If your friends developed now they're constantly 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.760