WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Breaking Down The Dolphins 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:19.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.639 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:34.800 Star in Frisco, Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.239 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is a Wednesday, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.920 a backdoor work Wednesday for the players here at the 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:49.760 Star in Frisco inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Here it 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:54.520 is Talking Cowboys. And does Taco Tuesday grow into what 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.160 are what would we call Wednesday? I'm not sure what 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.680 we'd call Wednesday, but we survived a Taco Tuesday, and 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.640 now we the big mystery here is what happens with 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.560 the Cowboys roster now that Robert Quinn is back at practice. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.040 As the team heads out to the practice field at 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.360 this hour and they have until three o'clock this afternoon 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:20.039 to make a roster move. And hello, Mickey, how are you? 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.040 I am doing fine? How are you very well? About you? 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.679 Rob doing well? Sir? And Brian brought us Brian very 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.560 busy over there. I'm sorry, I'm laid on marriscope up 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.280 and run. I'm laid on periscope. I'm sorry about folks, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.319 I am. And let's start with the fact that this 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:42.800 is Dolphins week. Yeah, yes, and it is, in the 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.760 words of a former Cowboys coach, Iowa State Week. Oh. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.560 In fact, it was twenty five years ago next month 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.840 that the Dallas Cowboys traveled to Cincinnati to take on 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.800 Iowa State. And that was a close game. It was 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.320 an Owen seven Iowa State cyclone team, wasn't it, Mickey, Yes, 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.320 it was and uh yeah, they almost came back to 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.240 nip him in the bud. Huh Is that like the 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:15.640 comment in the paper Tuesday? You know, back in the day, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.639 there was one press conference a week for the head coach. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.000 There were there were availability these after practice, but there 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.000 was one of these that you just heard, the Jason 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.960 Garrett press conference, which is basically a daily thing, which started. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.000 I guess when when did that start? Made it what 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:38.240 every day? Yeah? But Barry okay, week after he would 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.160 but there would be one where you're in the meeting 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.680 room there and it's a it's a big deal. It 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.960 was a Tuesday, and at his Tuesday press conference that week, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.400 as the Cowboys were preparing to play the Owen seven 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.800 Cincinnati Bengals. Barry made the comment that it's kind of 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.120 like when you go play I always state and getting 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.920 your team ready to play a team that hadn't won 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.840 a game. Basically, I think it's the day thing started 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.280 with Bill. Okay, but and that was because Bill was 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.680 still good at these press conferences. So then what was 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.760 very memorable. The Bengals played the Cowboys off their rear 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.560 and then the handshake after the game was interesting. What 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.160 was it, David Shu David Shula. Yeah, yeah, David Shula 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.760 was the head coach of the Bengals and he had 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.120 some choice words for Barry in the post game handshake. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.919 That was funny. David Schula got fired from here after 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.400 the eighty nine season though, right right after night. But Sula, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.480 it was the coach of the Bengals, you know, that 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.119 gave it a twenty three twenty game is very close game. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.880 So the word awarning there is despite the fact that 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:46.920 the Miami Dolphins are thirty second in the league in 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.800 offense thirty second in the league in defense, once upon 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.560 a time, the Cincinnati Bengals at seven played the Cowboys 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.400 off their feet. Yeah, I feel like the only real 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.800 chant that the Dolphins have in this game is if 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.880 Ryan Fitzpatrick does try to turn this into a shootout, 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.280 if he just if he just goes toe to toe 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.080 with with Dak Prescott and both teams, you know, can't 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.720 I mean, let's see if Dallas can't get pass rush 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.200 and Fitzpatrick gets the ball out. You know, DeVante Parker's 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.159 really their best option throwing the football down the field too. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.719 They're going to take some shots. They took some shots 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.080 against Baltimore, they took some shots against New England. And 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.799 Parker has the ability to elevate. He's a big, tall, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.080 long receiver that can go get the football. So we've 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.960 seen and I brought it up yesterday with with Fitzpatrick 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.560 that he took an undermanned Tampa Bay team into New 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.920 Orleans in Week one last season and turn it into 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.240 a shootout type of a game where he dueled where 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.880 he dueled Drew Brees and then they came away with 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.599 a victory. Does magic was born? Yeah? See, that's that's 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.240 where you know he's capable of lighting up a defense. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.120 If you don't get pressure on him, the ball comes 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.159 out quick with him. Had they had success these first 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.440 two games, absolutely not. But that's the one hope that 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.560 they have that they you know, if Dallas doesn't get 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.400 the pass rush doesn't affect the way he throws the football, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.880 that he will sit there and get the shotgun snap 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.920 and just keep firing it and that, and that's their 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.200 best chance to win. That's the man. That's their only 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.120 chance to win in this game. That and taking the 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.960 ball away. You saw what happened. You know, Washington takes 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.520 a I believe they scored first after a Dack interception, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.320 got the ball at to dallas thirty eight yard line 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.720 and was able to cash in. So, you know, Cowboys 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.240 have to keep their mistakes at a minimum as well. Well, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.080 what you worry about is this team comes in with 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.400 nothing to lose, right, so they can just zing it 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.640 around and whatever. But let's put this thing in perspective. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:54.480 They've had two games and they've totaled twenty three first downs. Yeah, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.960 that's like what eleven and a half a game. No, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.200 there's no question they've ruggle and that's why they're O 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.479 and two. Both these losses have been at home though, too. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.520 They've averaged one hundred and ninety two yards a game, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.600 one hundred and ninety two, and they've averaged one hundred 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.880 and sixty yards a game passing so Fitz magic. I 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.159 don't know when it's gonna sprout up, but two pick 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.280 sixes I believe last week in the second half. I mean, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.560 they haven't been able to do anything offensively or defensively. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.640 If you look at these numbers, have you ever seen 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.479 a team or seen a Cowboys team go up against 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.680 a team that has ranked last in the league in 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.600 offense and defense. I realize it's just two games, but 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:43.320 it's probably happened, right, maybe not dead last. They just 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.480 have trouble sustaining drives. I mean they're five of twenty 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.000 five on third down through two games. Fifty nine to 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.279 ten followed by forty three to nothing doesn't happen in 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.120 this league, I think, I think maybe one time in history, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:59.720 because they matched an all time record getting outscored by 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.720 nine two points in two consecutive games. This league is 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.800 a strange Lady boys, Oh, I know, I know, you 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:09.120 can't take anything. I never thought that. I never thought 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.480 that New England would roll into Detroit last year and 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.960 taking ll You know, I mean, there's there's there's games 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.720 that happen, and I'm not trying to blow smoke up 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:22.040 everybody's ass here and say that this game, and Mickey's 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.800 absolutely right, they're god awful. Okay. The chance they have, though, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.800 is they have a quarterback that's not afraid to throw interceptions. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.080 He's not afraid to throw the ball down the field. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.040 He's tough as all. He's the toughest s ob quarterback 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.119 I've ever seen in my life as far as taking 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.040 hits and getting up and keep playing. And if Dallas 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.280 does turn the ball over, but you don't know, trust me. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.680 I was on a team at LSU, seventh ranked team 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.720 in the country. It was beaten by Miami, Ohio because 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.040 we turned the ball over five times. It happens. I'm 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.840 just saying, I'm just you know, I'm just putting it 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.320 out there. You know, we can we can roll through 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.800 all these numbers and everybody can agree on it. But 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.200 what was the score of the Dolphins Patriots game last 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.360 week with three minutes to go in the third quarter? 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.960 I believe it was thirteen to nothing. It was sixteen 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.280 to nothing. Sixteen to nothing, yeah, yeah, So I mean 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.640 it was thirteen nothing at halftime, so they were hanging 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.080 in there. Yeah. And if you go back and look 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.080 at the at the game, even early in the game, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.920 they've got a simple little third down conversion that the 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.920 wide receiver just drops. They had had they had a 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.360 tip things, they had a tip ball that went. They 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.200 threw the ball to to their running back in the 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.080 flat and he knocked the ball up in the air 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.520 and they gotta gotta pick Collins, gotta pick six off that. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.640 So again I'm just saying though, I mean, well, Dallas 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.960 win this game. Yes, that probably will win this game. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.839 I just don't think that they're gonna beat him forty 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.000 three to nothing. And they played against two of the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.000 hottest teams in the league the first two weeks exactly, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.880 there's no questions the road. So also a very young 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.080 football team and getting younger by the trade. I mean, yeah, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.120 Fitzpatrick mayka Fitzpatrick's one of them, but look at the 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.800 moves they made at the end of training camp. You know, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.760 they trade away Tonsil, they trade away he Stills, they 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.240 cut Dwayne Allen, Bryce Butler, there's a lot of they're 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.040 they're starting over, they're getting very young, and that's a 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.319 big part of why they've struggled in these first two games. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.560 And you're facing a Cowboys team that's young but has 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.600 gained a lot of experience in the last twelve months. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.720 They traded away one other guy too, by the way, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.800 Robert Quinn. Yeah, everybody kind of leaves him out of 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:24.439 the equation that I was getting went down in. No, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.520 I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to everybody 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.200 else out there. That's referring to the trades they've made, 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.120 And it's the trades they've made since the season started. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.880 They started getting rid of guys in the offseason. Two 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.200 and all they got for Robert Quinn was a sixth 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.840 round draft choice. We'll see if yeh, we'll see if 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.600 Robert Quinn can do what he needs to do. Here 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:49.480 Quinn talk here. Yeah, well they're gonna you know, they 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.800 seem pretty confident that the hands ready to go. Now 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.559 they got to see how much he can do. My 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.679 guess is that he doesn't do more than with DeMarcus 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.920 laur did in the first game of the year. And 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:07.360 I think his snaps were thirty somewhere thirty two right right, So, so, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.440 and now, from what I understand, Crawford's probably not ready 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.959 to go. Eighteen snaps last week, not probably. I think 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.520 you think he's out. Yeah, I think he's out. Crawford 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.679 not practiced today tells me a lot. And then that's 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.360 why I brought up the point yesterday about potentially keeping 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.720 Taco if you're the front office, because you're not sure 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.280 what's going on with with with Crawford's injury. To me, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.719 I don't think Crawford's playing this game. And so and 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.760 if that's the case, If if they don't keep Taco, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.640 then you understand how down they are him absolutely on 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:49.400 his attitude and and because it's almost like they need them. Yeah, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.559 but if they don't keep them, then I think that 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.920 speaks volumes of what they think about they would rather 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.840 go with, They would rather go with everybody else but Taco, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.120 who who we all talked about. And this by far 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.240 was his best preseason since he's been here. But if 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.600 they move on from him. But I liked what Mickey 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.599 said yesterday or the day before. I believe it. But 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.760 if but Crawford's not playing, so now you start taking now, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.280 start taking all these guys off the field for the Cowboys. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.680 By the way, if this kind of evens the playing 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.679 field a little bit, you know, oh Thompson's playing safety today, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.600 maybe instead of Woods. Oh, okay, Oh, Robert Quinn's playing? 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:31.280 Who's playing? Riding Quinn? And Dorne Armstrong? Okay, who's playing? 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.959 You know? I mean no, no, Now you don't have 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.960 Crawford to help out with the loss of Woods inside. Sure, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.880 he can't go. Sure, So now Tristan Hill's gonna have 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.400 to to suit up. Yeah, and Christian Covington's you're starting 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.520 nose tackle that one doesn't bother. I'm just saying you much. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.959 Your depth is this, Yeah, you're playing a game with 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.600 You're playing a game with players that might be similar 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.959 to what the Dolphins starters are. That's where you have 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.960 to be a little bit cautious about this game as well. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.640 I'm okay with Covington. But then what happens if you 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.480 have one more inside, no question, then you're you got 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.240 Joe Jackson college college MALIEK. Collins could play the one, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.000 and I think he's going to have to play the 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.080 one this week and have it he'll have and he'll 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.480 play the three, the three. Yeah, yeah, well Covington, he'll 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:23.360 play the one. Will start rotate guys through that, and 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.960 then you don't have your you don't have the ability 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.880 to move Crawford inside on passing downs to be a 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.680 pass rusher. Yeah, next to Collins, next to MALIEK Collins, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.439 So yeah, you start getting then you're one injury away. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.240 So yeah, we hear all about this depth and it's 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.520 all great when you have all your starters there, But 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.439 then when those guys are the starters, then what do 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.920 you have and they get a rash of injuries at 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.040 the same position, you can get yourself in trouble. People 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.440 are on the unperiscope they think I'm picking the Dolphins 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:58.079 and say I'm picking the Dolphins. Look, it's just the NFL. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.840 I just played sense like brought us is picking the Dolphins. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.640 All you gotta do is go ask the nineteen eighty 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.000 nine Washington Redskins. I totally agree with that, a team 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.240 that should not have won, gained about all year long, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.079 and they went in there and winning the game. What 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.199 thirteen to three or some business like that, Dallas will 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.800 win this game. But to think it's gonna be forty 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.480 three to nothing, I don't think so. I just I 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.240 could say you start taking players out and playing with 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.559 backup players, And Mickey made another point right there. You 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.760 start playing with backup guys. Now things start to be 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.160 a little bit more equal, is it? Is it going 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.000 to be perfect? No, it's not, but it's a little 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.040 bit more equal. I mean, think about it at safety. Yeah, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.840 if Xavier Woods can't go okay, okay, go on good, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.480 We got Darien Thompson. Well, now what happens with one 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.079 more injury? Then you're back there with Frazier or Wilson 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.199 Donovan Wilson. Yeah, it could be donovand Wilson's time. And 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.439 then you start slinging it around sort of what the 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.079 Cowboys due to the Redskins right when they had the 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:06.840 injuries at the cornerback position, no Dunbar, no Morrow. They 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.280 had to have a rookie in the slot Moreland and 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.559 then and then uh Rogers Kmarti gets hurt, and what 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.440 did the Cowboys do? Hey, we're going three wide every 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.160 play here because you don't have guys to cover us. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.560 Don't forget about the wide receiver position because gallop while 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.280 they have depth at receiver, and we saw it clearly 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.000 with Devin Devin Smith last week. What's table on Austin's 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.440 status this week? They had it. They had to make 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.160 a move last week to account for him. And now 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.000 you know you don't have gallop Police for a couple 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.720 of weeks, So do they have to make another roster 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.520 move to help your numbers at wide receiver. I feel 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.840 pretty good about the overall group because the offense has 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:48.040 been what it's been for two weeks and they've still 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.160 got weapons. Devin Smith as a proven commodity, sure, but 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.720 they may have to figure out their depth there as well. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.640 So yeah, I mean, it's what was the what was 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.520 what pac Man say in two thousand and eight when 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.280 they were playing the Rams. It's the Rams, the Rams, dude, dude, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.920 and it was one of the worst teams maybe ever. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.920 Uh Now, they didn't have rong finger game and no, no, 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.320 he was out, he was out. He warmed up, but 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.440 he didn't play. Brad Johnson, right, Brad Johnson played, couldn't 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.360 hit the broadside of a barn. Still, Still, nobody gave 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.320 the Rams a chance and they kind of blew them 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.560 out because they were The point is to what y'all 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.120 pointed out, it's the NFL and games. It I don't 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.120 think people realize how hard it is to win an 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.000 NFL football game, no question, no matter who you're playing against, 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:33.960 no question, it's the whole I know it's the whole 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.000 they get paid too, but it's really true. The Rams 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.960 hadn't won a game that here. It changed the roach. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:44.640 It was Jim Haslett's first game Introm's the Rams, dude, Dude, dude, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.920 it's the Dolphins, dude. It was Brat Johnson. Dude. So 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.960 behind the scenes, as we approach a three o'clock deadline 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.800 where they need to make a roster decision on who 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.200 goes what, what do you think they're choosing between? Well, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.600 I think they probably already made it because whoever you're 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.680 going to release you, I'm not going to practice him, right. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.640 That's why I asked. I ask that question to walk 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.000 off because I'm like, do you got to practice all 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.440 your guys? He said for the most part, And I'm thinking, okay, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.480 who who? Now we need to check and see who's 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.520 not practicing. Well, it does make sense to wait because 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.240 you get through this practice and if somebody were to 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.680 get hurt in practice, it might impact your decision on 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.760 where your depth is and things of that nature. So 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.400 I understand why they haven't officially made a move yet, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.240 and I understand why the league has it where it's 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.880 Wednesday at three o'clock where you make the roster move 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.240 rather than Tuesday at three o'clock, because that way the 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.720 suspended player you can actually see him on the practice 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.480 all to see where he is. Ye as well, they 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.160 got to make the move regardless. Yeah, I don't get 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.800 why it's Wednesday instead of Saturday for sand who did 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.400 not report, but it is what it is. That's the NFL. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.800 Someone want to go check out practice or do we 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.640 want to give it a couple of minutes and then 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.720 we do have a break. We want to wait a 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.360 couple of minutes to get to make sure everybody's out 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.120 on the practice field so we can check to see 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.159 who's not there, or go ahead. It's a long walk here, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.920 it's like ten feet away from it. Make you take 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.520 your phone and go out there in the practice field, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.359 all right, And so we are going to take a 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.000 break and if we haven't determined who's not on the 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.160 practice field by the time we come back, and maybe 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.640 Mickey will join us live via his cell phone when 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.240 we come back. Your new apartment's big, such a great deal, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:34.440 It's okay, just okay. What's not right about the subway? 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And we had to like a forty five 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.840 second glimpse of who's out there, and my back hurt. 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.800 So getting it out of that. Chairs now appreciate someone 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.440 had to hold down the follow like David Hellman and 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.639 those guys that are out there watching practice right now, 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.399 because I'm getting reported Taco was not on the field. 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:22.520 So we'll see if that in fact holds true. Okay, 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.720 we will keep checking that as we go along here. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:31.000 That may tip us off to something, you know. It's 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.000 It's interesting, though, is when you look at the Cowboys 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.240 pass rush in these first two games, and in fact, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.480 Jason Garrett even talked about it after the Redskin game 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.560 that they need to improve the pass rush. If the 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.440 Cowboys have a healthy Robert Quinn, what does that do 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.680 for their pass rush? Well, if it's a healthy Robert Quinn, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.760 he gives you another weapon on the outside. He gives 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.760 you a different dynamic than what you have from Crawford. Now, 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:02.040 Crawford will would continue to start Crawford was healthy, he 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:05.280 would still continue to be your right end and then situationally, 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.879 you would see Quinn and come into the game and 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.240 rush and they kick Crawford down inside. So then you'd 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:15.960 have Collins, Crawford, Quinn, and Lawrence as your four primary 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.399 pass rushers. So Robert Quinn still has something left on 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.159 the tool belt, and he said mean not to what. 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.200 He still got something in the tank. But he's got 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.800 stuff in the tool belt. And you start talking about 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:29.600 how Lawrence rushes with all the different variety of moves 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.280 that he goes with, the rips, the swims, the dips, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.840 the stutter step that he used. Robert Quinn's very similar 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.680 that way himself. So now you have two pass rushers 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.240 that have that kind of ability. If Robert Quinn can 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.800 go back to his days, and we've seen him at 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.800 Miami have some a little success, the rams is where 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.119 he had his big success, you know, rushing, getting that 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.480 wide nine technique and coming off the edge and then 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:00.840 causing problems there. He's fresh, he's healthy, the hand, everybody 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:02.840 feels like the hand is going to be in good shape, 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.320 ready to roll. So we'll see how it all plays 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.000 out for him. But yeah, he still can rush the passer. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:13.000 He's still capable of affecting the pocket, and now you 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.840 have two legitimate you get the push from the inside, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.600 and you have guys like Lawrence and Quinn and those 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.439 guys coming off the edge. The pass rush will improve 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.520 in that way. They just have not. They played against 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.720 a couple of quarterbacks that are veterans, savvy quarterbacks that 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.200 go back ball out of hand, Get back ball out 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.320 of hand, get back ball out of hand. And they'll 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.280 play another one this week that's that way too. This 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.640 guy will get rid of the ball quickly. But yeah, 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.639 as you can see in the highlights right there, his 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:42.160 ability to break down tackles, I think is where he's 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:47.320 made a living throughout his career. That lanky ability to 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.399 kind of move keep the blocker's hands off him and 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.639 then allow him to rush the passer. Is he an 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.560 underrated run defender as well too? Yeah, it's hard got 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.040 to get around the edge because for how much he 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.320 plays up the field, he's able to keep things wide 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.200 and then and not allow you to hook him, you know. 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.800 So yeah, that's that's one of the reasons why though 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.320 they really like Crawford over there, that's because, yeah, because 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.680 he's that edge setter on the right side. If you 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.480 don't have him. You need somebody that can do that. Yep, 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.480 absolutely perhaps, And and you know, the concern on Crawford 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.000 is it is how long is he going to be 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.760 bothered by this hip injury. It is already week three 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.480 and here we go. You know, we've got a long 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.639 season here as we all. So yeah, it's going to 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.080 be about managing him. And again, you know it's the 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.680 it's a game against the Dolphins this week, you probably 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.399 sit him and get him ready for Saints and then 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.680 the Packers the following week after that. I mean, this 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.280 is just not going to be easy for a lot 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.520 of these guys that you know. Brit Brown and the 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:47.720 training staff did a really good job with all these 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.440 guys getting him back on the field and and trying 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.440 to give him a chance to at least have some 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.320 success as as healthy players. He's a tough dude. I mean, 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.760 he has played with a lot of stuff in the past, 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.080 shoulder all that kind of stuff. But yeah, he's probably 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:02.880 in that mix. You know, they gave him practice off 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:06.119 Wednesday last week, and when he does get back, if 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.320 it's this week, if it's next week, you may have 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.160 to manage him. That's probably they're gonna have a plan 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.119 for Sean Lee. They're gonna have a plan for for 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.800 probably Zach Martin throughout the season to get through the 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.600 back injury that he's got as well. See anything out there, Yes, 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.879 I did not see Tyrone Crawford out there, and I 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.480 did not see number ninety seven out there either. That 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:31.280 makes sense. We have not heard a injury on him, 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:37.000 So maybe they just decided that's it. Yeah. Um, well, 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.720 I thought I thought we had a good plan, though 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.159 yesterday I did too. I mean, so that tells you 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.120 what I said earlier. There's there's a role of dissatisfaction. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.920 There is, there is clear dissatisfaction. The general manager came 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:50.920 out yesterday and said he had not given up on 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.600 the player. So that just tells you the potentially the 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.760 avalanche of like Mickey said, he's a healthy player. So 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.399 it's not a you know, not something that all of 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.600 a sudden we found out taco you know, burned his 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.520 hand cooking last night or something like that. He's not 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.520 here for a reason. And so if that's the case, 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.520 and they have injuries at defensive end and a brand 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.680 new player coming in, that just tells you right there 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.960 that they are ready to move on. And so I 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.360 believe I said it yesterday, Like at what point does 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.479 this come to ahead? You know? And we'll see if 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.600 it does. But you know, when you take to social 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.479 media and what does Jason Garrett always say, I mean, 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.720 it's the guiding light, is this roster and what's best 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.000 for the team. And when you go to social media 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.359 and you and you voice your displeasure, that's that puts 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.119 you at odds with the organization. Now, that kind of 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:43.080 stuff can be repaired, but um, it just it made 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.479 me curious of like, how do you go about repairing 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.320 and at what point do you can you can you 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.200 do that? You know? And and maybe we're at that point. 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:52.800 I don't know. I don't know. And when you ask 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:58.040 questions about no Crawford, you know, Quinn can't play the 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:03.200 entire game, it's like, well, you know Armstrong, Carrie Hider, 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:09.120 Joe Jackson, and oh what about the other guy? So now, 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.359 and I don't know if he's playing his hand this 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.880 way or not, because the way Taco might be looking 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.480 at it, or his agent if he clears waivers, if 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.280 they indeed make him the guy that's released to make 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.840 room for Quinn his one point three seven six million 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.320 dollars base salaries guaranteed, so they got to pay that. 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.360 The four hundred and eighty thousand of it next year 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.400 is guaranteed, so they have to pay that. And then 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.480 you have pro rated signing bonus still for next year 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.080 that will go into your cap. So it's a it's 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.480 an expense. You Now, if you traded him immediately, it 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:56.919 was going to be four million dollars, So that also 0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.800 would tell you their level of dissatisfaction and maybe not 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:06.320 with his performance with everything else. Yeah. Um, but again 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:11.920 I'm saying, if he clears waivers, he's still gonna make 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.639 as much money as if he was here. Yeah, so 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.600 from his standpoint, and then if you're thinking, well, surely 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.520 you could get a seventh round draft pick for him 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.399 or something in a trade. That's the big thing. His 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.560 base salary at one point eight million dollars, the team 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.400 that takes that takes him on in a trade would 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:34.359 be responsible. But guys, for a guy that's a pass rusher, 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.920 that's cheap. That's right when you know that the team 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.200 is going to release him. But if you don't want 0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.320 to fight other teams, but you're also looking at the 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.720 guy that holds a fifth year option too. So you know, 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.240 I mean, if he is something, he magically he continues, 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.439 maybe he develops somewhere else. And a guy who did 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.200 show something in the preseason, there's no question if you're 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.640 if you put on if you watch his preseason tape 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.480 from this year, you're going to say he looks like 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.440 a different player. Though on that rams game, he looks 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.040 like a different player. And so you know, with all 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.119 that being said, you know somebody might say, hey, at 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.520 one point eight million dollars, we could do a lot 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.600 worse of claiming this contract. We could do a lot worse. 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.640 So I you know, I mean, I hey, Mickey's right 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:27.040 about this. There's clearly clearly a big divide between him 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:32.800 and coaches, teammates, you know. But again, I'm just taking 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.960 Jerry Jones to his word that he said, hey, I 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.080 haven't given up on him. But but you know, he's 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.480 Jerry Jones would accuse him of just acting out and 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.360 doing what he wants to do. Well this case, you know, 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.920 he's saying, hey, listen, I'd like to keep this guy 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.120 if we could, and then they're saying, no, no, we 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.800 need to move on. For what it's worthy, and Rappaport 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.360 just tweeted, the Cowboys are still keeping the door open 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.600 for a possible trade of Taco, but if nothing comes 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.520 to fruition, they plan to move on from him. Here 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.280 you go. So, so him not practicing today is about 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.040 to preserve his health in case they have to trade him. 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.160 If it doesn't work at three o'clock today, then there'll 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.800 be an official release maybe that says that they've they've 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.000 activated Robert Quinn and they've put Taco Charlton on wacause 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.240 lasting something. If Quinn's gonna play Sunday exactly, so you 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.120 have to you have to part ways with somebody or 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.040 if he's going to practice tomorrow, right back too. Yeah. 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.880 So and and again you always run the risk of 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.800 a guy going out there and all of a sudden 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.880 going oh yeah him straight and then now yeah exactly, 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.920 and I'll keep your options open. Yeah absolutely, yeah, No, 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.320 I mean the guy you're getting ready to get rid 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.360 of that too. But I mean, if you think you're 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:45.720 that guy, you'll come up with a phony injury so 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.840 you can get paid some more. But he's gonna get 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.680 paid anyway. So yeah, that's that's the beauty of being 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.280 a first round draft pick and getting guaranteed money, right, 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.920 and these days, first round draft picks all get guaranteed money. 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.920 So se so so everybody that says, see what teams 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.560 do you know? They everybody should have guaranteed money. But 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.760 sometimes it backfires on you too. It helps the players 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.000 are these first round picks to have guaranteed money. Now 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:12.920 we're gonna see this is not gonna be the first 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.240 contract that we see that somebody's got a guarantee that's 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.760 a first round pick. Just the way these contracts. It's 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.040 a way of getting these guys into camp early. But 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.720 it's also now the guaranteed money is going to be 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.880 something that people to your point about a team who 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:32.080 maybe would acquire him, Sure he's got salary. Yeah, they 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.280 can also look at it this way that, Okay, if 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.160 he went through waivers, what they're paying in his base 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.600 salary is only about a million dollars more than what 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:43.080 they would be paying him claimed him off waivers, no question, 0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.360 no question. And if they're if your team, like the 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.760 Dolphins who need players robs right though, you might not 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:51.520 just you you might not want to just fight. You 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.400 don't want to fight. Maybe it's like yeah, you know, 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:58.400 if it cost us a seventh round pick, a conditional 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.880 seventh round pick to take a look. If Taco's active 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.040 four games, then we'll give you a seven. There's nothing 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:08.920 that that's that's smart football. If your roster is very depleted, yes, 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.800 in pass rush, maybe you go ahead and you make 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.600 a move, especially if you've got maybe a bundle of picks. Yeah, 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.760 people have compensatory picks too. You can trade those now 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.080 too as well. Saying the other thing, we don't know 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.080 what's going on in that locker room. Yep, you know 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.320 he might have ostracized himself as teammates. That's that's what 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.240 I said yesterday. It's I and I don't know that. 0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.480 I was asking the question, like, how does that play 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.480 in with your teammates? And when you walk back into 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.600 the building and you've said, I assume that's what he meant, 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.160 free me like, I don't know if it meant I 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:40.800 want out of here or I just want to play 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.400 on Sunday. But either way, how does that play with 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.600 your teammates? How's it play with your coaches? That's the 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.680 question I had. Because it's three weeks into the season, 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.000 everybody's all in right now. Everybody's all in for what 0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.840 you're trying to do. Why do I think, though, and 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.120 I was listening to what you're saying, why do I 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.560 think this is just the cherry on top? You know what, 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:03.720 I ain't three years of steadily building to this moment. 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.760 He's just I mean, he's a different cat. Well, he's 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:10.520 also extremely frustrated, you know, after that, and not just 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.840 but on him too. I know, yeah, that's on him, 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.480 not just with the team. But it goes back to 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.360 what Jerry was saying on the fan yesterday, the expectations 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.040 that come with being a first round pick, and that's 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.120 part of your job. You're professional. Mickey said, You're getting 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.520 paid either way. But he SAIDs you know, remember after 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.520 the preseason opener in the forty nine ers locker room 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.480 visiting locker room, he really kind of opened up about it. 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.320 How you know, I've stopped worrying about what people think 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:38.840 about me, because if I if I play very sensitive gap, 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.280 if I played poorly, I'm terrible. If I do good, 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.440 it's like, oh well, it's not gonna last. And then 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.160 he said it's he sounded like a guy that would 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:47.920 be open to a fresh start back then, and he 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.560 remember he made the mention out of the blue. No 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.200 one asked him. He goes, yeah, and me and my 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.920 agent have talked about this. It was it was kind 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.080 of cryptic. It was cryptic, and it was like, WHOA, Okay, 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:04.400 but have been more to it than that. Yep. Interesting. 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.160 It's on him though, too. I'll say that again, absolutely, Brian. 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.280 And I'm not trying to jump on you or make 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.520 here anybody else. But I'm just saying though, you know, 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.080 he we we talk about him in a in a 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.000 positive light, you know, like, oh, we had a really 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.720 nice preseason this year. Yeah, well, well what about the 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.240 first year? The second year? I mean, there were flashes, 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.080 but no consistency, and that's and that's a problem. You know, 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.360 the opportunity is there for him right now here with 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.320 Tyrone Crawford's injury, there is an opportunity. It's the Cowboys 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.280 would love to have a former first round draft pick 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:42.720 who is bought in and being acting in a professional 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.360 manner whatever Byron Jones to who they can plug in 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:51.320 in a rotation with Robert Quinn this week. You know, 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.360 I'm saying a guy buying in. I mean, the cow 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.840 the Cowboys don't want to do anything with Taco Charlton. 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.200 But it's come to this point apparently, so all right 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.800 we continue with more talking cowboys in just a moment. 0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.080 It can be hard to find the right resource for 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.960 learning about important financial matters. You search how to build savings, 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.480 you end up reading about the one weird ingredient from 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.840 supermarkets that can make you taller. 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I can bring 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.480 that one to you. Do that. That would be fun. Well, 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.319 remember the phone number five to two nine seven if 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.080 anyone who would like to give us a call, give 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.879 us a call. There anything going on on periscope ran 0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.759 anything going on on Paris, wos not. They're arguing with 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.040 each other on periscope. People are People are like they're 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.000 talking about though that, and you know, maybe I could 0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.239 throw it out there, but they feel like, though that, 0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.440 wouldn't you like to have seen Taco instead of Joe Jackson. 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.359 It's Joe Jackson. I mean, it's Joe Jackson done enough 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.600 for you in these first couple of games to maybe 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.960 think that, you know, hey, wait, maybe Taco needs a 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.719 well is it I know it's because of the flexibility 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.719 if we haven't seen him play tackle yet, But was 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.560 it just so far gone with Taco that he was 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.279 never going to get a shot I don't. I don't know, 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.080 because what we kept hearing in camp was he's coming along, 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.279 he's playing hard, he's playing pretty well, and then all 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.440 of a sudden, he's inactive for Week one. Yeah, that 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.799 came as a surprise to me. But you're right about 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.799 the position flex and it may be more important now 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.520 because of Tyrone and Antoine, depending on what their status is, 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.239 if they can't go, if they both can't go this week. Yeah, 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.600 you know, we're talking about a player in Taco Charlton, 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.680 who was a two thousand and seventeen first round draft pick, 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.200 meaning the Cowboys still had him under control for the 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.040 next three years, including this year. Sure and so and 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.600 another team wouldn't too to acquire him in a trade. 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.239 That's why you know to trade. So you just don't 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.200 have to fight. If you think. If you're a pro 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.759 personnel guy and you're sitting in an organization, you're saying, listen, 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.880 this is who we're playing with. You guys keep telling 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.520 me about our team. Look at our team. Look. I mean, 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.360 say I'm at the Buccaneers or someplace like that, and 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.239 I'm saying, you guys keep telling me you don't like 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.480 our ends, you don't like this guy. You don't like this, 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.120 I'm gonna give you a guy. I'm gonna give you 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.200 college guys. Tell me what you had on the reports. Well, 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.000 we kind of thought he was this this okay, let 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.840 me show you this film of the Rams game. Let 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.120 me show you what he's capable of, you know, let 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.759 me show you what we might be getting here if 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.759 we if we claim this guy, that's that's the cell 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:40.960 job for pro guys around the league. And maybe that's 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.600 maybe that's something like a pro guys saying, hey, maybe 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.600 we do need to trade for this guy. Let's kicking. 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.600 Let's kick a seven, a conditional seven to them and 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.239 try and get this guy and see if we can 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.600 make it work. And I need to correct myself. Mickey 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.080 said it right. He's at one point four million this year, 0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.480 one point eight million next year exactly. So if you 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.359 acquired him in a trade, so basically have him take 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.279 off the two games he's already missed or already been 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.480 paid for this year. I mean, you're basically looking two years, 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.080 three million dollars, that's what you'd have him four plus 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.719 another to me, to me, that's a cell. That's a 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.239 good sell. If I'm a pro guy and another team 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.880 trying to get this guy or trying to try his 0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.640 agent trying to sell. Yeah, I think, and if he 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.200 doesn't work out, you're lett him go and you're not 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.239 on the hook. No, that's what I'm saying. If you 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:29.160 go a conditional seven to Dallas, your conditions and you say, okay, 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.360 if he's active four games, will give you a seven 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:34.640 in two twenty one or two thousand whatever, I mean 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.960 that to be next year, but they just you just 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.359 do it at this point absolutely. Yeah. So now you're 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:42.200 now you're at a point where you saying, okay, we 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.880 could take a look at this guy for three weeks. 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:47.920 If he doesn't work out, well, you would be on 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.360 the hook. You you inherit his contracts. So if you 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.279 would be on the hook for the guaranteed money next 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.160 year too, well, not but much. It's like a minimum, 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.560 a rookie minimum. But that's what I'm saying. Though. You 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.160 you have a player that you have control over, and 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.359 he might be better than the guy you're running out 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.080 there every week that's causing to lose football games. So 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.239 I was trying to go through my memory bank that 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.320 fades when you get older. I don't remember a cowboy 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:17.319 being released mid season who was a first round pick. 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:23.040 We talked about it at lunch. What you know, I 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.839 know guys that didn't finish their contracts and you had 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:32.440 to go back to eighty two with um. Was it 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:36.120 Rod Hill? First round pick? He only played two years here? 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.880 So Bobby Carpenter finished his deal. Bobby Carpenter finished his 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:44.080 four years low Claiborne didn't. Mo did, Felix Jones did? 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:48.080 Mike Jenkins did? I thought they traded Bobby carpentered the 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.640 Rams for offensive lineman and then that offensive lineman had 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.880 the holding call in the Roy Williams getting in touchdown 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.839 got ended the game see Young Memories. Yeah, I am 0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.480 blanket on that. You might be right on that one. 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.000 I know they was Colombo got injured, I want to say, 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.120 and so they put that guy in. It was game 0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:09.040 one against the Redskins, and Romo had a game when 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.360 he touchdown, but the Refts called it back and so 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.400 I didn't account. I don't know where's Wikipedia when you 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.560 needed that? Wasn't a guy that had the heart attack? 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:22.680 Was it Alex Barron? Yes, Alex Alex Barron. No, that 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.360 wasn't him. But regardless you you can't think of one, Okay, 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.600 and so after just two years, not after two years 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.760 that he was Bobby Carpenter was traded for Alex Barron 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.880 as he's right after the O nine season, and he 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.839 was an OH six draft first round pick six seven, 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.320 So it was after his third year. So he was 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.839 in his fourth year going into his fourth year. Very good, 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:51.680 Okayden Gates, So two guys show more often Caden with 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:56.120 him put like two guys were let go after injuries. 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.200 Mike Sharad had two broken legs and so he only 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:04.080 played one year. And then um, Billy Cannon junior had 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.239 a neck injury his rookie year and eighty four and 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:13.040 what about retire Robert Shaw, that was a center from 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.560 Tennessee injury? Didn't he he had an injury though, that 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.840 was like seventy nine. Yeah, that's someone. Yeah, he was 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.919 a good player. He wasn't a bust. He had an injury. Yeah, 0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:25.400 all right, Let's go to Mark in Nebraska here on 0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.759 talking Cowboys. Hello, Mark, Hey, how's it going great? Good? 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.719 I was just curious. So I know that everyone I 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.320 know most of the organizations. Real Jeff Heats supporter, I 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:37.960 know he's a good guy who works hard and everything, 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:39.680 but I think he takes bad angles and he cares 0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:41.840 more about a hit than he does a tackle. But 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.640 I was just thinking Jalen Ramsey is once out. We 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.279 spent a first round on to Mario. We're going to 0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:50.560 resign him, hopefully. I know that it's a premature, given 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:51.759 that we just did it last year, but there is 0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:53.160 there any chance that we can make a move for 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.320 Jalen Ramsey because we wanted him anyways. Yeah, but was 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.319 if if things hold true, if they're a fact looking 0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:05.480 for two first round picks, then I think the Cowboys 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.920 trust me. I was in the administration that last time 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.560 gave two first round picks for a player, and the 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.040 owner wanted to strangle everybody in that room at that time. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.919 So yeah, I don't you know to me the jail, 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:20.560 this is what I said. I said this on one 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.640 to five three yesterday. I would be very comfortable trying 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.600 to work a deal with Byron Jones. And I'm saying 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.279 this with all sincerity. To me, I know what Byron 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:33.920 Jones is. I know what he can bring in this 0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:35.919 locker room. I know how he goes about his job, 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.480 I know how heart he plays but I also know 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.200 what I would worry about is if you traded for 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.920 Jalen Ramsey, Yeah, you get a great player, no question. 0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.640 Jalen Ramsey is going to hold out on you the 0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.200 very first opportunity he gets, like next year. Yeah, he 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.800 is immediately going to say, I want twenty million dollars. 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.560 I'm not going to play for this rookie deal. You 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.360 have to pay me. And then so all of a sudden, 0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.480 now all this work that you've tried to do to 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.719 kind of manipulate your cap and make it work with 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.040 all your players. One of the reasons why you have 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.200 one of the better teams, better rosters and National Football 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.960 League is because you've got guys that have willing been 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.560 willing to take some deals. So that's where I think, 0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.160 to me, I don't see them. I don't see them 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.480 giving up two ones. The reports are a team is 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.920 offered a one and a five teams offered one and 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.920 a player. I just don't think that you can creatively 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.520 come up with a package that Jacksonville would be happy 0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.160 with other than two first round picks. And I just 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.839 don't see this organization doing that. I would do everything 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.320 in my power to try and resign Byron Jones to 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:35.960 the best deal you can get for him and the 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.520 best deal you can get for yourself, and play with him. 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.120 I know what type of player he is, I know 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.279 what type of person he is, and I want him 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.359 in my locker professional and I like Jalen Ramsey going 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.879 into the draft, no question. Since then I figured out 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.120 what kind of person and personality he is. And the 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.400 Cowboys had a home run with their pick as Zeke Elliott. 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.880 And by the way, just one other thing on that, 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.640 you go ahead and give up your first round pick 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.120 in the day tomorrow, you're gonna say next year, boy, 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.760 I've got a hole. 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