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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: a backdoor work Wednesday for the players here at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. Here it

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Speaker 1: is Talking Cowboys. And does Taco Tuesday grow into what

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Speaker 1: are what would we call Wednesday? I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: we'd call Wednesday, but we survived a Taco Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: now we the big mystery here is what happens with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys roster now that Robert Quinn is back at practice.

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Speaker 1: As the team heads out to the practice field at

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Speaker 1: this hour and they have until three o'clock this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to make a roster move. And hello, Mickey, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I am doing fine? How are you very well? About you?

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Speaker 1: Rob doing well? Sir? And Brian brought us Brian very

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Speaker 1: busy over there. I'm sorry, I'm laid on marriscope up

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Speaker 1: and run. I'm laid on periscope. I'm sorry about folks,

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Speaker 1: I am. And let's start with the fact that this

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Speaker 1: is Dolphins week. Yeah, yes, and it is, in the

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Speaker 1: words of a former Cowboys coach, Iowa State Week. Oh.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it was twenty five years ago next month

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Speaker 1: that the Dallas Cowboys traveled to Cincinnati to take on

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. And that was a close game. It was

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Speaker 1: an Owen seven Iowa State cyclone team, wasn't it, Mickey, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was and uh yeah, they almost came back to

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Speaker 1: nip him in the bud. Huh Is that like the

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Speaker 1: comment in the paper Tuesday? You know, back in the day,

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Speaker 1: there was one press conference a week for the head coach.

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Speaker 1: There were there were availability these after practice, but there

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Speaker 1: was one of these that you just heard, the Jason

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Speaker 1: Garrett press conference, which is basically a daily thing, which started.

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Speaker 1: I guess when when did that start? Made it what

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Speaker 1: every day? Yeah? But Barry okay, week after he would

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Speaker 1: but there would be one where you're in the meeting

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Speaker 1: room there and it's a it's a big deal. It

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Speaker 1: was a Tuesday, and at his Tuesday press conference that week,

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Speaker 1: as the Cowboys were preparing to play the Owen seven

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Barry made the comment that it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like when you go play I always state and getting

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Speaker 1: your team ready to play a team that hadn't won

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Speaker 1: a game. Basically, I think it's the day thing started

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Speaker 1: with Bill. Okay, but and that was because Bill was

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Speaker 1: still good at these press conferences. So then what was

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Speaker 1: very memorable. The Bengals played the Cowboys off their rear

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Speaker 1: and then the handshake after the game was interesting. What

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Speaker 1: was it, David Shu David Shula. Yeah, yeah, David Shula

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Speaker 1: was the head coach of the Bengals and he had

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Speaker 1: some choice words for Barry in the post game handshake.

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Speaker 1: That was funny. David Schula got fired from here after

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Speaker 1: the eighty nine season though, right right after night. But Sula,

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Speaker 1: it was the coach of the Bengals, you know, that

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Speaker 1: gave it a twenty three twenty game is very close game.

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Speaker 1: So the word awarning there is despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins are thirty second in the league in

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Speaker 1: offense thirty second in the league in defense, once upon

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Speaker 1: a time, the Cincinnati Bengals at seven played the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: off their feet. Yeah, I feel like the only real

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Speaker 1: chant that the Dolphins have in this game is if

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick does try to turn this into a shootout,

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Speaker 1: if he just if he just goes toe to toe

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Speaker 1: with with Dak Prescott and both teams, you know, can't

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's see if Dallas can't get pass rush

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Speaker 1: and Fitzpatrick gets the ball out. You know, DeVante Parker's

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Speaker 1: really their best option throwing the football down the field too.

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Speaker 1: They're going to take some shots. They took some shots

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Speaker 1: Parker has the ability to elevate. He's a big, tall,

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Speaker 1: seen and I brought it up yesterday with with Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: that he took an undermanned Tampa Bay team into New

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Speaker 1: Orleans in Week one last season and turn it into

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Speaker 1: a shootout type of a game where he dueled where

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Speaker 1: he dueled Drew Brees and then they came away with

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Speaker 1: a victory. Does magic was born? Yeah? See, that's that's

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Speaker 1: where you know he's capable of lighting up a defense.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get pressure on him, the ball comes

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Speaker 1: out quick with him. Had they had success these first

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Speaker 1: two games, absolutely not. But that's the one hope that

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Speaker 1: they have that they you know, if Dallas doesn't get

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Speaker 1: the pass rush doesn't affect the way he throws the football,

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Speaker 1: that he will sit there and get the shotgun snap

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Speaker 1: and just keep firing it and that, and that's their

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Speaker 1: best chance to win. That's the man. That's their only

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Speaker 1: have to keep their mistakes at a minimum as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: what you worry about is this team comes in with

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Speaker 1: nothing to lose, right, so they can just zing it

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Speaker 1: around and whatever. But let's put this thing in perspective.

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Speaker 1: They've had two games and they've totaled twenty three first downs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's like what eleven and a half a game. No,

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Speaker 1: and two. Both these losses have been at home though, too.

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Speaker 1: They've averaged one hundred and ninety two yards a game,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety two, and they've averaged one hundred

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Speaker 1: don't know when it's gonna sprout up, but two pick

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Speaker 1: sixes I believe last week in the second half. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do anything offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 1: If you look at these numbers, have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: a team or seen a Cowboys team go up against

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Speaker 1: it's probably happened, right, maybe not dead last. They just

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Speaker 1: have trouble sustaining drives. I mean they're five of twenty

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Speaker 1: five on third down through two games. Fifty nine to

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Speaker 1: ten followed by forty three to nothing doesn't happen in

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Speaker 1: this league, I think, I think maybe one time in history,

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Speaker 1: because they matched an all time record getting outscored by

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Speaker 1: nine two points in two consecutive games. This league is

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Speaker 1: a strange Lady boys, Oh, I know, I know, you

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Speaker 1: can't take anything. I never thought that. I never thought

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Speaker 1: that happen, and I'm not trying to blow smoke up

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Speaker 1: everybody's ass here and say that this game, and Mickey's

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, they're god awful. Okay. The chance they have, though,

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Speaker 1: is they have a quarterback that's not afraid to throw interceptions.

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Speaker 1: He's not afraid to throw the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: does turn the ball over, but you don't know, trust me.

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Speaker 1: I was on a team at LSU, seventh ranked team

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Speaker 1: just saying, I'm just you know, I'm just putting it

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Speaker 1: out there. You know, we can we can roll through

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Speaker 1: all these numbers and everybody can agree on it. But

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Speaker 1: what was the score of the Dolphins Patriots game last

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Speaker 1: week with three minutes to go in the third quarter?

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Speaker 1: I believe it was thirteen to nothing. It was sixteen

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Speaker 1: they've got a simple little third down conversion that the

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Speaker 1: tip things, they had a tip ball that went. They

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Speaker 1: So again I'm just saying though, I mean, well, Dallas

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that they're gonna beat him forty

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Speaker 1: three to nothing. And they played against two of the

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Speaker 1: there's no questions the road. So also a very young

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick mayka Fitzpatrick's one of them, but look at the

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Speaker 1: And you're facing a Cowboys team that's young but has

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Speaker 1: gained a lot of experience in the last twelve months.

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Speaker 1: They traded away one other guy too, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. Yeah, everybody kind of leaves him out of

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Speaker 1: the equation that I was getting went down in. No,

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Speaker 1: else out there. That's referring to the trades they've made,

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Speaker 1: And it's the trades they've made since the season started.

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Speaker 1: round draft choice. We'll see if yeh, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn can do what he needs to do. Here

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Speaker 1: Quinn talk here. Yeah, well they're gonna you know, they

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Speaker 1: seem pretty confident that the hands ready to go. Now

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Speaker 1: guess is that he doesn't do more than with DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: not practiced today tells me a lot. And then that's

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Speaker 1: why I brought up the point yesterday about potentially keeping

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Speaker 1: Taco if you're the front office, because you're not sure

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Speaker 1: what's going on with with with Crawford's injury. To me,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Crawford's playing this game. And so and

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, If if they don't keep Taco,

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Speaker 1: then you understand how down they are him absolutely on

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Speaker 1: his attitude and and because it's almost like they need them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if they don't keep them, then I think that

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Speaker 1: speaks volumes of what they think about they would rather

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Speaker 1: go with, They would rather go with everybody else but Taco,

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Speaker 1: who who we all talked about. And this by far

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Speaker 1: was his best preseason since he's been here. But if

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Speaker 1: they move on from him. But I liked what Mickey

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Speaker 1: By the way, if this kind of evens the playing

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Speaker 1: field a little bit, you know, oh Thompson's playing safety today,

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Speaker 1: maybe instead of Woods. Oh, okay, Oh, Robert Quinn's playing?

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Speaker 1: Who's playing? Riding Quinn? And Dorne Armstrong? Okay, who's playing?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean no, no, Now you don't have

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Speaker 1: Crawford to help out with the loss of Woods inside. Sure,

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Speaker 1: he can't go. Sure, So now Tristan Hill's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to to suit up. Yeah, and Christian Covington's you're starting

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Speaker 1: Your depth is this, Yeah, you're playing a game with

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Speaker 1: You're playing a game with players that might be similar

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Speaker 1: to what the Dolphins starters are. That's where you have

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Speaker 1: absolutely perhaps, And and you know, the concern on Crawford

425
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Speaker 1: is it is how long is he going to be

426
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: bothered by this hip injury. It is already week three

427
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: and here we go. You know, we've got a long

428
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: season here as we all. So yeah, it's going to

429
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: be about managing him. And again, you know it's the

430
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: it's a game against the Dolphins this week, you probably

431
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: sit him and get him ready for Saints and then

432
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: the Packers the following week after that. I mean, this

433
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: is just not going to be easy for a lot

434
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: of these guys that you know. Brit Brown and the

435
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: training staff did a really good job with all these

436
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: guys getting him back on the field and and trying

437
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: to give him a chance to at least have some

438
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: success as as healthy players. He's a tough dude. I mean,

439
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: he has played with a lot of stuff in the past,

440
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: shoulder all that kind of stuff. But yeah, he's probably

441
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: in that mix. You know, they gave him practice off

442
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Wednesday last week, and when he does get back, if

443
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Speaker 1: it's this week, if it's next week, you may have

444
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: to manage him. That's probably they're gonna have a plan

445
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: for Sean Lee. They're gonna have a plan for for

446
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: probably Zach Martin throughout the season to get through the

447
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: back injury that he's got as well. See anything out there, Yes,

448
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: I did not see Tyrone Crawford out there, and I

449
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: did not see number ninety seven out there either. That

450
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: makes sense. We have not heard a injury on him,

451
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: So maybe they just decided that's it. Yeah. Um, well,

452
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I thought I thought we had a good plan, though

453
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: yesterday I did too. I mean, so that tells you

454
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Speaker 1: what I said earlier. There's there's a role of dissatisfaction.

455
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: There is, there is clear dissatisfaction. The general manager came

456
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: out yesterday and said he had not given up on

457
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: the player. So that just tells you the potentially the

458
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: avalanche of like Mickey said, he's a healthy player. So

459
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: it's not a you know, not something that all of

460
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: a sudden we found out taco you know, burned his

461
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: hand cooking last night or something like that. He's not

462
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: here for a reason. And so if that's the case,

463
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: and they have injuries at defensive end and a brand

464
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: new player coming in, that just tells you right there

465
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: that they are ready to move on. And so I

466
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: believe I said it yesterday, Like at what point does

467
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: this come to ahead? You know? And we'll see if

468
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: it does. But you know, when you take to social

469
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: media and what does Jason Garrett always say, I mean,

470
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: it's the guiding light, is this roster and what's best

471
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Speaker 1: for the team. And when you go to social media

472
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: and you and you voice your displeasure, that's that puts

473
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: you at odds with the organization. Now, that kind of

474
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: stuff can be repaired, but um, it just it made

475
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 1: me curious of like, how do you go about repairing

476
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: and at what point do you can you can you

477
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: do that? You know? And and maybe we're at that point.

478
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. And when you ask

479
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: questions about no Crawford, you know, Quinn can't play the

480
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: entire game, it's like, well, you know Armstrong, Carrie Hider,

481
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson, and oh what about the other guy? So now,

482
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's playing his hand this

483
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: way or not, because the way Taco might be looking

484
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: at it, or his agent if he clears waivers, if

485
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: they indeed make him the guy that's released to make

486
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: room for Quinn his one point three seven six million

487
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: dollars base salaries guaranteed, so they got to pay that.

488
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: The four hundred and eighty thousand of it next year

489
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: is guaranteed, so they have to pay that. And then

490
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: you have pro rated signing bonus still for next year

491
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: that will go into your cap. So it's a it's

492
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: an expense. You Now, if you traded him immediately, it

493
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: was going to be four million dollars, So that also

494
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: would tell you their level of dissatisfaction and maybe not

495
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: with his performance with everything else. Yeah. Um, but again

496
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if he clears waivers, he's still gonna make

497
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: as much money as if he was here. Yeah, so

498
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: from his standpoint, and then if you're thinking, well, surely

499
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: you could get a seventh round draft pick for him

500
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: or something in a trade. That's the big thing. His

501
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: base salary at one point eight million dollars, the team

502
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: that takes that takes him on in a trade would

503
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: be responsible. But guys, for a guy that's a pass rusher,

504
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: that's cheap. That's right when you know that the team

505
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: is going to release him. But if you don't want

506
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to fight other teams, but you're also looking at the

507
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: guy that holds a fifth year option too. So you know,

508
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is something, he magically he continues,

509
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: maybe he develops somewhere else. And a guy who did

510
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: show something in the preseason, there's no question if you're

511
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: if you put on if you watch his preseason tape

512
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: from this year, you're going to say he looks like

513
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: a different player. Though on that rams game, he looks

514
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: like a different player. And so you know, with all

515
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: that being said, you know somebody might say, hey, at

516
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: one point eight million dollars, we could do a lot

517
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: worse of claiming this contract. We could do a lot worse.

518
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: So I you know, I mean, I hey, Mickey's right

519
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: about this. There's clearly clearly a big divide between him

520
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: and coaches, teammates, you know. But again, I'm just taking

521
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones to his word that he said, hey, I

522
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: haven't given up on him. But but you know, he's

523
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones would accuse him of just acting out and

524
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: doing what he wants to do. Well this case, you know,

525
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: he's saying, hey, listen, I'd like to keep this guy

526
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: if we could, and then they're saying, no, no, we

527
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: need to move on. For what it's worthy, and Rappaport

528
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: just tweeted, the Cowboys are still keeping the door open

529
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: for a possible trade of Taco, but if nothing comes

530
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: to fruition, they plan to move on from him. Here

531
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you go. So, so him not practicing today is about

532
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: to preserve his health in case they have to trade him.

533
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work at three o'clock today, then there'll

534
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: be an official release maybe that says that they've they've

535
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: activated Robert Quinn and they've put Taco Charlton on wacause

536
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: lasting something. If Quinn's gonna play Sunday exactly, so you

537
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: have to you have to part ways with somebody or

538
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: if he's going to practice tomorrow, right back too. Yeah.

539
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: So and and again you always run the risk of

540
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: a guy going out there and all of a sudden

541
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: going oh yeah him straight and then now yeah exactly,

542
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: and I'll keep your options open. Yeah absolutely, yeah, No,

543
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean the guy you're getting ready to get rid

544
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: of that too. But I mean, if you think you're

545
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: that guy, you'll come up with a phony injury so

546
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: you can get paid some more. But he's gonna get

547
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: paid anyway. So yeah, that's that's the beauty of being

548
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick and getting guaranteed money, right,

549
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: and these days, first round draft picks all get guaranteed money.

550
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: So se so so everybody that says, see what teams

551
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: do you know? They everybody should have guaranteed money. But

552
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: sometimes it backfires on you too. It helps the players

553
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: are these first round picks to have guaranteed money. Now

554
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna see this is not gonna be the first

555
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: contract that we see that somebody's got a guarantee that's

556
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Just the way these contracts. It's

557
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: a way of getting these guys into camp early. But

558
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: it's also now the guaranteed money is going to be

559
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: something that people to your point about a team who

560
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: maybe would acquire him, Sure he's got salary. Yeah, they

561
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: can also look at it this way that, Okay, if

562
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: he went through waivers, what they're paying in his base

563
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: salary is only about a million dollars more than what

564
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: they would be paying him claimed him off waivers, no question,

565
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: no question. And if they're if your team, like the

566
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins who need players robs right though, you might not

567
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: just you you might not want to just fight. You

568
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: don't want to fight. Maybe it's like yeah, you know,

569
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: if it cost us a seventh round pick, a conditional

570
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: seventh round pick to take a look. If Taco's active

571
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: four games, then we'll give you a seven. There's nothing

572
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: that that's that's smart football. If your roster is very depleted, yes,

573
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: in pass rush, maybe you go ahead and you make

574
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: a move, especially if you've got maybe a bundle of picks. Yeah,

575
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: people have compensatory picks too. You can trade those now

576
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: too as well. Saying the other thing, we don't know

577
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: what's going on in that locker room. Yep, you know

578
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: he might have ostracized himself as teammates. That's that's what

579
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I said yesterday. It's I and I don't know that.

580
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: I was asking the question, like, how does that play

581
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: in with your teammates? And when you walk back into

582
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: the building and you've said, I assume that's what he meant,

583
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: free me like, I don't know if it meant I

584
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: want out of here or I just want to play

585
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But either way, how does that play with

586
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: your teammates? How's it play with your coaches? That's the

587
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: question I had. Because it's three weeks into the season,

588
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: everybody's all in right now. Everybody's all in for what

589
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Why do I think, though, and

590
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I was listening to what you're saying, why do I

591
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: think this is just the cherry on top? You know what,

592
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I ain't three years of steadily building to this moment.

593
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: He's just I mean, he's a different cat. Well, he's

594
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: also extremely frustrated, you know, after that, and not just

595
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: but on him too. I know, yeah, that's on him,

596
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: not just with the team. But it goes back to

597
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: what Jerry was saying on the fan yesterday, the expectations

598
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: that come with being a first round pick, and that's

599
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: part of your job. You're professional. Mickey said, You're getting

600
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: paid either way. But he SAIDs you know, remember after

601
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: the preseason opener in the forty nine ers locker room

602
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: visiting locker room, he really kind of opened up about it.

603
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: How you know, I've stopped worrying about what people think

604
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: about me, because if I if I play very sensitive gap,

605
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: if I played poorly, I'm terrible. If I do good,

606
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh well, it's not gonna last. And then

607
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: he said it's he sounded like a guy that would

608
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: be open to a fresh start back then, and he

609
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: remember he made the mention out of the blue. No

610
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: one asked him. He goes, yeah, and me and my

611
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: agent have talked about this. It was it was kind

612
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: of cryptic. It was cryptic, and it was like, WHOA, Okay,

613
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: but have been more to it than that. Yep. Interesting.

614
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: It's on him though, too. I'll say that again, absolutely, Brian.

615
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to jump on you or make

616
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: here anybody else. But I'm just saying though, you know,

617
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: he we we talk about him in a in a

618
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: positive light, you know, like, oh, we had a really

619
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: nice preseason this year. Yeah, well, well what about the

620
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: first year? The second year? I mean, there were flashes,

621
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: but no consistency, and that's and that's a problem. You know,

622
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity is there for him right now here with

623
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford's injury, there is an opportunity. It's the Cowboys

624
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: would love to have a former first round draft pick

625
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: who is bought in and being acting in a professional

626
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: manner whatever Byron Jones to who they can plug in

627
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: in a rotation with Robert Quinn this week. You know,

628
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying a guy buying in. I mean, the cow

629
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't want to do anything with Taco Charlton.

630
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: But it's come to this point apparently, so all right

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to have seen Taco instead of Joe Jackson.

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Speaker 1: It's Joe Jackson. I mean, it's Joe Jackson done enough

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, hey, wait, maybe Taco needs a

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Speaker 1: well is it I know it's because of the flexibility

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Speaker 1: it just so far gone with Taco that he was

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Speaker 1: never going to get a shot I don't. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: he's playing hard, he's playing pretty well, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's inactive for Week one. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: came as a surprise to me. But you're right about

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Speaker 1: the position flex and it may be more important now

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Speaker 1: if they can't go, if they both can't go this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about a player in Taco Charlton,

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Speaker 1: who was a two thousand and seventeen first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: meaning the Cowboys still had him under control for the

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Speaker 1: next three years, including this year. Sure and so and

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Speaker 1: another team wouldn't too to acquire him in a trade.

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Speaker 1: That's why you know to trade. So you just don't

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Speaker 1: have to fight. If you think. If you're a pro

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Speaker 1: personnel guy and you're sitting in an organization, you're saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is who we're playing with. You guys keep telling

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Speaker 1: me about our team. Look at our team. Look. I mean,

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Speaker 1: say I'm at the Buccaneers or someplace like that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you guys keep telling me you don't like

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Speaker 1: our ends, you don't like this guy. You don't like this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a guy. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: college guys. Tell me what you had on the reports. Well,

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Speaker 1: we kind of thought he was this this okay, let

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Speaker 1: me show you this film of the Rams game. Let

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Speaker 1: me show you what he's capable of, you know, let

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Speaker 1: me show you what we might be getting here if

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Speaker 1: we if we claim this guy, that's that's the cell

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Speaker 1: job for pro guys around the league. And maybe that's

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Speaker 1: maybe that's something like a pro guys saying, hey, maybe

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Speaker 1: we do need to trade for this guy. Let's kicking.

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Speaker 1: Let's kick a seven, a conditional seven to them and

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Speaker 1: try and get this guy and see if we can

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Speaker 1: make it work. And I need to correct myself. Mickey

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Speaker 1: said it right. He's at one point four million this year,

742
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Speaker 1: one point eight million next year exactly. So if you

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Speaker 1: acquired him in a trade, so basically have him take

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Speaker 1: off the two games he's already missed or already been

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Speaker 1: paid for this year. I mean, you're basically looking two years,

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Speaker 1: three million dollars, that's what you'd have him four plus

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Speaker 1: another to me, to me, that's a cell. That's a

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Speaker 1: good sell. If I'm a pro guy and another team

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Speaker 1: trying to get this guy or trying to try his

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Speaker 1: agent trying to sell. Yeah, I think, and if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't work out, you're lett him go and you're not

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Speaker 1: on the hook. No, that's what I'm saying. If you

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Speaker 1: if he's active four games, will give you a seven

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Speaker 1: in two twenty one or two thousand whatever, I mean

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Speaker 1: that to be next year, but they just you just

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Speaker 1: do it at this point absolutely. Yeah. So now you're

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Speaker 1: now you're at a point where you saying, okay, we

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Speaker 1: could take a look at this guy for three weeks.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't work out, well, you would be on

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Speaker 1: the hook. You you inherit his contracts. So if you

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Speaker 1: would be on the hook for the guaranteed money next

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Speaker 1: year too, well, not but much. It's like a minimum,

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Speaker 1: a rookie minimum. But that's what I'm saying. Though. You

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Speaker 1: there every week that's causing to lose football games. So

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Speaker 1: I was trying to go through my memory bank that

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Speaker 1: We talked about it at lunch. What you know, I

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Speaker 1: know guys that didn't finish their contracts and you had

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Speaker 1: So Bobby Carpenter finished his deal. Bobby Carpenter finished his

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Speaker 1: Mike Jenkins did? I thought they traded Bobby carpentered the

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Speaker 1: got ended the game see Young Memories. Yeah, I am

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Speaker 1: blanket on that. You might be right on that one.

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Speaker 1: I know they was Colombo got injured, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: So it was after his third year. So he was

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Speaker 1: Mike Sharad had two broken legs and so he only

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Speaker 1: a neck injury his rookie year and eighty four and

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Speaker 1: Tennessee injury? Didn't he he had an injury though, that

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Speaker 1: was like seventy nine. Yeah, that's someone. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: a good player. He wasn't a bust. He had an injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Let's go to Mark in Nebraska here on

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Hello, Mark, Hey, how's it going great? Good?

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Speaker 1: I was just curious. So I know that everyone I

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Speaker 1: but I think he takes bad angles and he cares

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking Jalen Ramsey is once out. We

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Speaker 1: spent a first round on to Mario. We're going to

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Speaker 1: resign him, hopefully. I know that it's a premature, given

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Speaker 1: that we just did it last year, but there is

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Speaker 1: there any chance that we can make a move for

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey because we wanted him anyways. Yeah, but was

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Speaker 1: if if things hold true, if they're a fact looking

819
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Speaker 1: trust me. I was in the administration that last time

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't you know to me the jail,

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Speaker 1: this is what I said. I said this on one

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Speaker 1: this with all sincerity. To me, I know what Byron

828
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Speaker 1: Jones is. I know what he can bring in this

829
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Speaker 1: I know how heart he plays but I also know

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Speaker 1: what I would worry about is if you traded for

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is going to hold out on you the

834
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835
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836
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to play for this rookie deal. You

837
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844
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Speaker 1: to me, I don't see them. I don't see them

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Speaker 1: giving up two ones. The reports are a team is

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Speaker 1: offered a one and a five teams offered one and

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Speaker 1: a player. I just don't think that you can creatively

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Speaker 1: come up with a package that Jacksonville would be happy

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Speaker 1: with other than two first round picks. And I just

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Speaker 1: don't see this organization doing that. I would do everything

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Speaker 1: in my power to try and resign Byron Jones to

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Speaker 1: the best deal you can get for him and the

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Speaker 1: best deal you can get for yourself, and play with him.

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Speaker 1: I know what type of player he is, I know

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Speaker 1: what type of person he is, and I want him

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Speaker 1: in my locker professional and I like Jalen Ramsey going

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Speaker 1: into the draft, no question. Since then I figured out

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Speaker 1: what kind of person and personality he is. And the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys had a home run with their pick as Zeke Elliott.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, just one other thing on that,

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Speaker 1: you go ahead and give up your first round pick

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Speaker 1: in the day tomorrow, you're gonna say next year, boy,

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Speaker 1: I've got a hole. I need to draft somebody. Question

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Speaker 1: they don't need a cornerback. Talking Cowboys continues tomorrow. The

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