1
00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,040
Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

2
00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,880
Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death.

3
00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,079
Speaker 3: On today's episode, We're gonna start with a scary situation

4
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,680
Speaker 3: Rihanna experienced this week when an obsessed fan or a hater,

5
00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,199
Speaker 3: I don't know what we're gonna call her shut up

6
00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,120
Speaker 3: her house while she was at home. Then we'll get

7
00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,840
Speaker 3: into Britney Spears, who's in the news again this week

8
00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,040
Speaker 3: after getting a dui, so we'll talk about what that means.

9
00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,080
Speaker 3: A story that went viral on social media this week

10
00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760
Speaker 3: involving a local story of a woman who was hit

11
00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,800
Speaker 3: by a car almost a year ago and authorities still

12
00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,800
Speaker 3: don't know who she is. And another story that's local

13
00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,360
Speaker 3: to us that broke yesterday about a woman who was

14
00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 3: murdered over a hamster. Then we'll get into a tragic

15
00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,200
Speaker 3: story involving a high school prank that went terribly wrong

16
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,680
Speaker 3: and led to a teacher's death.

17
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,080
Speaker 2: And our last.

18
00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,240
Speaker 3: Story is a man who died after cutting off his

19
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,160
Speaker 3: own penis. We'll finish the episode with your questions, comments,

20
00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,240
Speaker 3: and emails. All that and more on today's episode, What's

21
00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,440
Speaker 3: up with this this Rihanna fan person? She is a

22
00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,040
Speaker 3: total crazy person.

23
00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,240
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I saw reports that on Sunday night that

24
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,400
Speaker 1: bullets had hit Rihanna's house, and like, I don't really

25
00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,319
Speaker 1: know anything about where she lives. I assume she has

26
00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,360
Speaker 1: like a luxurious mansion in LA But we've been to La, right,

27
00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Like some of those really nice houses are on main streets.

28
00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I was just like totally flowing it off as like

29
00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 1: maybe there is an incident, like on the sidewalk outside

30
00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,920
Speaker 1: of her house, and she just her house just got

31
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,640
Speaker 1: hit in the crossfire, right, No, this woman that was

32
00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,400
Speaker 1: arrested has been making videos about Rihanna that are so creepy,

33
00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,640
Speaker 1: and I agree with what you said the intro, Like,

34
00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 1: is she stalking her?

35
00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,960
Speaker 2: She obsessed with her in a good way or a

36
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000
Speaker 2: bad way? What is going on in this case?

37
00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,240
Speaker 3: I think it's what we hear about sometimes when when

38
00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,720
Speaker 3: famous people have stalkers. She has this delusion that she

39
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,680
Speaker 3: has a personal relationship with Rihanna, And in this case,

40
00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,480
Speaker 3: it's not like a love relationship. It's she she feels

41
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,880
Speaker 3: that she needs to be dead. And I'm sorry, but

42
00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120
Speaker 3: it should have never even gotten to this point. There

43
00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,959
Speaker 3: has to be some kind of I know that their

44
00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 3: censorship roles on all of these platforms, And when you

45
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280
Speaker 3: watch these videos that she was making, she was talking

46
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,760
Speaker 3: about Rihanna dying, killing Rihanna, or her being dead, her

47
00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,880
Speaker 3: being happy about it. Like why was this not flagged

48
00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,639
Speaker 3: at all before this happened?

49
00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,280
Speaker 1: No, totally, especially because if they're being posted on TikTok,

50
00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,040
Speaker 1: like we know from our personal experience using that platform,

51
00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,200
Speaker 1: they are so sensitive to anything you post. I mean,

52
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,919
Speaker 1: we have videos I feel like taken down at least

53
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,120
Speaker 1: once a week on there that aren't even that bad,

54
00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,480
Speaker 1: but they're saying. January fourth, she posted a video clutching

55
00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,200
Speaker 1: a praying woman's journal and appears to accuse Rihanna of

56
00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,280
Speaker 1: trying to kill her. And then she said when Rihanna dies,

57
00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,200
Speaker 1: God will take this woman to her quote future. And

58
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,320
Speaker 1: then on January twenty first, she likened Rihanna's face to

59
00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,360
Speaker 1: the devil before delving into a tirade about homework. So

60
00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,400
Speaker 1: clearly this person is not mentally well. I don't know

61
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,359
Speaker 1: with the level of fame and security that I assume

62
00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,560
Speaker 1: Rihanna has that this person was it on her radar

63
00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,360
Speaker 1: or why this person's videos were continuing to be allowed

64
00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000
Speaker 1: to be posted but like this is a problem with

65
00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,400
Speaker 1: the day and age we live in on social media.

66
00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,840
Speaker 3: It's so scary because Rihanna was home at the time,

67
00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960
Speaker 3: which I mean, she's got little kids. I'm sure her

68
00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 3: kids were with her too, right, Yeah, And I don't

69
00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 3: know what kind of ammunition that she used, but if

70
00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320
Speaker 3: she was using like a full metal jacket for example,

71
00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,520
Speaker 3: that that's travels through walls, and they did say that

72
00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,120
Speaker 3: they found at least one projectile embedded in the wall

73
00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 3: of the house, So I mean really like it, it's

74
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840
Speaker 3: really scary. And even if one of those hits you,

75
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,000
Speaker 3: they don't, it doesn't make as much damage to your

76
00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,359
Speaker 3: body as a hollow point bullet would, for example. But

77
00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440
Speaker 3: like if you get hit in the the correct area

78
00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,200
Speaker 3: of your body, it's going to put a hole somewhere

79
00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,200
Speaker 3: that might be really detrimental, if not, if not deadly.

80
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,480
Speaker 3: And you hear about this all the time that people

81
00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000
Speaker 3: get killed by stray bullets that go through their house.

82
00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,039
Speaker 3: So it's a possibility. I know that she got on

83
00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,600
Speaker 3: a plane and like got out of la which of

84
00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,880
Speaker 3: course she should. And it's so it's scary because I mean,

85
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,159
Speaker 3: this is the thing she probably does have security your house,

86
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,440
Speaker 3: But this is another unexpected thing, like how often does

87
00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,240
Speaker 3: somebody do this?

88
00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,240
Speaker 2: And it was it could have been a close one

89
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:00,480
Speaker 2: for her.

90
00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean her house is probably enormous, ten thousand square

91
00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,560
Speaker 3: feet whatever, but like we don't know the details of

92
00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,000
Speaker 3: how close these things were actually coming to within her body.

93
00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,479
Speaker 1: I mean, a couple points I want to make is like,

94
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,440
Speaker 1: why is this person even able to access and figure

95
00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 1: out where Rihanna lives?

96
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,240
Speaker 2: Right?

97
00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,920
Speaker 1: Like, I don't agree with who owns a house being

98
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,839
Speaker 1: public record like that. And I know a lot of

99
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,640
Speaker 1: celebrities will buy homes under LLCs or some type of

100
00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,440
Speaker 1: hidden entity so people can't figure it out as easy.

101
00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,839
Speaker 1: But then you have entire like Reddit pages Instagram pages

102
00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,640
Speaker 1: devoted to showing a celebrity real estate, right So, like,

103
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we should be able to know where

104
00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,680
Speaker 1: anybody lives regular or celebrity to make it accessible to

105
00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,039
Speaker 1: these people. Also, this surprised me because I don't consider

106
00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Rihanna one of these celebrities that's constantly posting where she

107
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,720
Speaker 1: is so like, and I don't think she lives full

108
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440
Speaker 1: time in LA I think she has a couple different homes.

109
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,840
Speaker 1: So the fact that she was there when this happened

110
00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,279
Speaker 1: is so scary, Like was this woman stalking her for

111
00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,800
Speaker 1: weeks and figured out she was at the home. I

112
00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,359
Speaker 1: think about this all the time because like if you

113
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,800
Speaker 1: see like when Bravocon happens, or like Rachel Zoe for example,

114
00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,680
Speaker 1: this weekend was at some opening in Vegas, posting all

115
00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640
Speaker 1: about being at this opening in Vegas, and then her

116
00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,120
Speaker 1: home got broken into because people know she's not there,

117
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,479
Speaker 1: and it happens a lot to athletes, like at the

118
00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,200
Speaker 1: super Bowl or when they know they're away at games.

119
00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,119
Speaker 1: So I just can't believe that this woman was able

120
00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,159
Speaker 1: to even know she was there and successfully shoot the

121
00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,720
Speaker 1: house at all.

122
00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,080
Speaker 2: It's also weird.

123
00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,760
Speaker 3: Too, because when I think of Rihanna, and I don't, like,

124
00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320
Speaker 3: obviously you guys know from this show that I don't

125
00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 3: have any idea what's going on with pop culture for

126
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,040
Speaker 3: the most part, but.

127
00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,839
Speaker 2: Like she seems, she seems like like what's.

128
00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,040
Speaker 3: What's the hate? Like she just there? She doesn't, she doesn't,

129
00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,480
Speaker 3: she's not outspoken about shit.

130
00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,919
Speaker 2: She's like there's no rhyme or reason with she.

131
00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,560
Speaker 1: Like, I think we should consider this person a stalker

132
00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,000
Speaker 1: of sorts, right, She's clearly obsessed with her making video

133
00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 1: is bet her went to her home fired a gun

134
00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,159
Speaker 1: at her house. So, like, I don't think there's a

135
00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,400
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to stalkers or anything. It's like this

136
00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,520
Speaker 1: weird obsession you have, whether it's positive or negative. And

137
00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,360
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like if I can't have you, no one

138
00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 1: could have you, right, it's so scary.

139
00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,800
Speaker 3: I guess the silver lining of this situation is that

140
00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,440
Speaker 3: she's in jail now for attempted murder. I think her

141
00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,120
Speaker 3: bond is like ten million, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

142
00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 3: Why does she have bond because because it's California, Yeah, exactly.

143
00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:33,920
Speaker 2: But like.

144
00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,760
Speaker 3: She's I mean, luckily this all went well, and she's

145
00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,440
Speaker 3: going to be away for a long time because Rihanna's

146
00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,560
Speaker 3: got money and good lawyers, and she's going to make

147
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,800
Speaker 3: sure that this girl gets the full penalty of the law,

148
00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,760
Speaker 3: because otherwise, who knows what would have happened. I mean, clearly,

149
00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,400
Speaker 3: this is what happens when you hear about people that

150
00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,240
Speaker 3: are schizophrenic. They are hearing voices telling them that a

151
00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800
Speaker 3: person is the devil and or even themselves, and they

152
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,600
Speaker 3: intentionally hurt themselves or one of their kids or one

153
00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,400
Speaker 3: of their parents.

154
00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,000
Speaker 2: Or something like that.

155
00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,320
Speaker 3: And this lady seems to be one hundred percent percent

156
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,760
Speaker 3: convinced of what she's saying, so well she might need

157
00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,360
Speaker 3: to go to get like mental treatment.

158
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,960
Speaker 1: I agree with you, though, like social media needs to

159
00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,840
Speaker 1: enforce some more rules about this. Is clearly these videos

160
00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,640
Speaker 1: she's posting some sort of threatening behavior towards another person.

161
00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,160
Speaker 1: So social media needs to do a better job of

162
00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,800
Speaker 1: blocking posts like this, and we as viewers need to

163
00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,400
Speaker 1: do a better job of reporting it.

164
00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just listen, listen, Like I just

165
00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,760
Speaker 3: think that that's just complete bullshit. They could pick up

166
00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,160
Speaker 3: everything all the time.

167
00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,760
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they pick and choose what they want exactly exactly.

168
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,760
Speaker 1: God forbid, you post something about breast cancer awareness and

169
00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,079
Speaker 1: we're getting fron No.

170
00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760
Speaker 3: I'm pissed about that this week actually because I got

171
00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,920
Speaker 3: I got like a big, a big in trouble, you know,

172
00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400
Speaker 3: so that like I'm not allowed to go live for

173
00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,160
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days, which is now down

174
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,440
Speaker 3: to like one hundred and something. Still, I can't go

175
00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,440
Speaker 3: live for an entire year because I posted a breast

176
00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,640
Speaker 3: cancer post with a woman who had a visible tumor

177
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 3: and her nipple was showing and she was trying to

178
00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640
Speaker 3: show people like, hey, I just lifted up my arm

179
00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,120
Speaker 3: to put my hair in a ponytail and I saw

180
00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,240
Speaker 3: this bump under my boob and it turns out it

181
00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,800
Speaker 3: was cancer. I think that that's like a per public

182
00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,320
Speaker 3: service announcement. But then this week on Instagram, I was

183
00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,920
Speaker 3: scrolling through and there was some protests with like fifteen

184
00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,720
Speaker 3: women that were walking around completely topless but showing their

185
00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,520
Speaker 3: full nipples. And I sent it to Maria and was

186
00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,920
Speaker 3: just like, oh, this is cool, but this is cool,

187
00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,480
Speaker 3: but like, it's not cool to show a nipple for

188
00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,040
Speaker 3: breast cancer awareness. Like I'm over it. But yeah, so

189
00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,400
Speaker 3: let's get on to Britney Spears. We did talk about

190
00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 3: it a little bit on our YouTube live on Friday

191
00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,760
Speaker 3: in the Grosser Room, but let's continue.

192
00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she got.

193
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 1: Arrested for a DUI the other night. Police had gotten

194
00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,920
Speaker 1: reports that a BMW was driving erratically on the one

195
00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,280
Speaker 1: oh one, and then when they pulled her over, she

196
00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,840
Speaker 1: was showing signs of impairment, so they gave her a

197
00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,280
Speaker 1: series of field sobriety test and then she ended up

198
00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,319
Speaker 1: being arrested for driving under the influence of both drugs

199
00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,840
Speaker 1: and alcohol. I don't think her talks has been released

200
00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,920
Speaker 1: yet right now.

201
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,880
Speaker 3: And there were reports that her blood alcohol level was

202
00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,720
Speaker 3: a zero point zero six, which is under the legal limit,

203
00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,560
Speaker 3: but that that's just been you know, reportedly, which would

204
00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,040
Speaker 3: which would consider that she wouldn't be eligible for a

205
00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,480
Speaker 3: DWI like driving while intoxicated if she if she wasn't

206
00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520
Speaker 3: high on drugs too, Like I don't know if she

207
00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,760
Speaker 3: had drugs on her as well. I know they said

208
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,360
Speaker 3: she had some unknown substance that was being tested, but

209
00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,360
Speaker 3: we don't know what that was, and we don't know

210
00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,240
Speaker 3: what happened, but she was brought to the hospital and

211
00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,000
Speaker 3: they would have taken her blood. So they're going to

212
00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,840
Speaker 3: do talkscology to see exactly what was wrong, you know,

213
00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,680
Speaker 3: what was causing her to drive that way.

214
00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna have later in the show. Some

215
00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,600
Speaker 1: listeners submitted feedback on that from people that are working

216
00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,520
Speaker 1: in law enforcement or have dealt with that in the past.

217
00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I find it really interesting to see how

218
00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 1: they determine that and like do they take it is

219
00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120
Speaker 1: like the blood test or the breathalyzer more important or

220
00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,400
Speaker 1: it just either one of them.

221
00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 3: Well, the breathalyzer will give it an immediate result to

222
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,200
Speaker 3: see because the thing is like, let's say you pull

223
00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,760
Speaker 3: someone over, right mm hmm, and then you're fiddling around

224
00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,640
Speaker 3: and by the time you say, okay, they're intoxicated and

225
00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,440
Speaker 3: you take them to the hospital and stuff, time goes by.

226
00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,960
Speaker 3: So that means that their blood is clearing out the

227
00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520
Speaker 3: alcoholic as that time goes by. So if you want

228
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,600
Speaker 3: to get the most accurate reading from when you pull

229
00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,640
Speaker 3: someone over as far as like how really intoxicated they are,

230
00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,040
Speaker 3: then you would do the breathalyzer right then and there.

231
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,600
Speaker 3: But that that's kind of like a screening right.

232
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,840
Speaker 2: Like like are those considered super accurate.

233
00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800
Speaker 3: They're they're pretty accurate, but there's also false positives and

234
00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,120
Speaker 3: this and that, so like it's just it's just a

235
00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,800
Speaker 3: screening tool and listen like it. Especially, you know, we

236
00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,439
Speaker 3: were talking about this with the Johnny Goudreaux case of

237
00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,400
Speaker 3: of how like he was just teetering on the limit

238
00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 3: of being over the legal limit and then the blood

239
00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,320
Speaker 3: showed one thing, and then I think they said that

240
00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,360
Speaker 3: they tested it on the plasma of the blood, but

241
00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,040
Speaker 3: the whole blood showed something else. So like when you're

242
00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,880
Speaker 3: on that border. It's very important to get accurate results.

243
00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,760
Speaker 3: But if if you're blowing something that's like, you know,

244
00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,600
Speaker 3: a point two, a point three what we had, oh,

245
00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,360
Speaker 3: we were talking about on YouTube Live this week. We

246
00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,720
Speaker 3: had and I don't know if we did talk about

247
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,240
Speaker 3: this on this show ever, but there was a woman

248
00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,240
Speaker 3: in New Jersey from close to where we live, who

249
00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,520
Speaker 3: was actually the of a town called over to New

250
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,640
Speaker 3: Jersey who was on camera and she was drunk driving

251
00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,280
Speaker 3: with her child that she picked up from daycare that

252
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880
Speaker 3: I believe was two right two she got. So this

253
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,200
Speaker 3: whole thing's on video from the police camp and she

254
00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,240
Speaker 3: is completely like pissed ass Stronk, can't even like stumbles

255
00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,800
Speaker 3: getting out of her car, can't walk straight. And her

256
00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 3: blood alcohol concentration was point three. You're talking about Britney's

257
00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,319
Speaker 3: being point oh six. It's it's like such a huge difference.

258
00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,840
Speaker 3: So I think if Britney's level was that and she

259
00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,760
Speaker 3: didn't have any let's say she didn't have any drugs

260
00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,240
Speaker 3: in her system either, that might be like a glass

261
00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 3: of wine for a person, or a glass and a

262
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,280
Speaker 3: half of wine, Like it's not people drive on that

263
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,080
Speaker 3: all the time and you're you're allowed to.

264
00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

265
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,760
Speaker 1: And then there's reports coming out that she had like

266
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,280
Speaker 1: a sobriety coach or something that she fired just a

267
00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks beforehand, and that when she sold her

268
00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,480
Speaker 1: music catalog recently, she fired that person in addition to

269
00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360
Speaker 1: some security she had that was watching her more regularly.

270
00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on in her life.

271
00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we've been watching like a total downward

272
00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,319
Speaker 1: spiral for the last what like twenty years in her life,

273
00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,160
Speaker 1: but it's just all over the place. And then, of

274
00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,640
Speaker 1: course because it's her, and because we live in the

275
00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 1: day and age of social media, there's just conspiracies flying

276
00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,560
Speaker 1: all over social media, like the first I saw online

277
00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760
Speaker 1: being that that road is like a trap for cops

278
00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280
Speaker 1: to get people on DUIs, but I don't think that

279
00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 1: was the case with this. And then there's conspiracies that

280
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,560
Speaker 1: people in her life are trying to set her up

281
00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,240
Speaker 1: because she just made an undisclosed, extremely high amount of

282
00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,880
Speaker 1: money from selling her music catalog and they just want

283
00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,800
Speaker 1: to smack her back in the conservatorship and take advantage

284
00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,280
Speaker 1: of her like they were in the past.

285
00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

286
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,480
Speaker 3: Is there a possibility that she's completely mentally sound, and

287
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880
Speaker 3: all of her videos are just like clickbait and she

288
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240
Speaker 3: sits back and it's just like, cause, think about it,

289
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,240
Speaker 3: like maybe if she was just dancing on the video,

290
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,600
Speaker 3: she would get, you know, two hundred thousand views, But

291
00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,800
Speaker 3: like her wearing those weird clothes, like low cut, weird

292
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,640
Speaker 3: two thousand earrow clothes and dancing with a knife or

293
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,080
Speaker 3: a cigarette in her mouth with like mes Gara rubbed

294
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,200
Speaker 3: all over her face, like that's getting six million views.

295
00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,520
Speaker 1: You could argue that, but I think she's crossing the

296
00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,160
Speaker 1: point of just being like, Wow, this bitch is crazy,

297
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,840
Speaker 1: So like, no, you actually are gonna need some intervention

298
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 1: at some point and to have to most possibly, I'm

299
00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna say most likely she's going back into some sort

300
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,760
Speaker 1: of conservatorship after this and then her just crazy behavior

301
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,120
Speaker 1: the last couple of months. In general, I think we

302
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,240
Speaker 1: could all agree that the conservatorship she was in the

303
00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,760
Speaker 1: past was not an ideal one. But I think now

304
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,240
Speaker 1: that she's been freed from it, everybody sees the downward

305
00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,000
Speaker 1: spiral and she needs to go back in it.

306
00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,880
Speaker 2: Like I can't even believe she drives her car.

307
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,840
Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, I said that this week on the YouTube live, Like,

308
00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,160
Speaker 3: if I ever became a multi millionaire like Britney Spears,

309
00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520
Speaker 3: the very first thing I would do would be hire

310
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,280
Speaker 3: a driver because I just don't like driving.

311
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I have Gabe now, so that's that's my driver.

312
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,280
Speaker 3: I just don't I just don't like, I don't like

313
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 3: to drive, right, So, like, if you have the money

314
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,760
Speaker 3: to do that, I don't understand. And she's Brittany, like

315
00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 3: she can't. She can't just be like, you know what,

316
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040
Speaker 3: like I need to go get some deodaur in a target.

317
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,120
Speaker 2: She can't do that.

318
00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,960
Speaker 3: So where is she driving to because she I mean

319
00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 3: she could drive I guess from a friend's house to

320
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,000
Speaker 3: a friend's house, but she can't go in public like that,

321
00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 3: so she had she should have a driver slash guard

322
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,200
Speaker 3: with her. I don't even know if she could go

323
00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,840
Speaker 3: to a place like Target with a guard.

324
00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, just to imagine.

325
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 1: Cause a total disruption in the entire store if she

326
00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,000
Speaker 1: was in there.

327
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just think, Yeah, when you're at

328
00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,080
Speaker 3: that level, you you just can't go out like that.

329
00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,080
Speaker 3: So I do understand that you want to have a

330
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,159
Speaker 3: sense of normalcy and just be able to get in

331
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,399
Speaker 3: your car and go around like other people do. But

332
00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,680
Speaker 3: like with all the sucks about being famous, you also

333
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,800
Speaker 3: just have like people that will keep your your cabinet

334
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840
Speaker 3: stored with deodorant. You don't ever have to worry about

335
00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I don't know, Like there's just.

336
00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 1: I think most of the time when we see her,

337
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,040
Speaker 1: and most likely what happened this night is that she

338
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,240
Speaker 1: was going out to dinner. And I believe she most

339
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,640
Speaker 1: often goes to Chateau Marmont because when you're there, you're

340
00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,159
Speaker 1: not allowed to take pictures or videos inside. So a

341
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,280
Speaker 1: lot of celebrities will go there because they offer them

342
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,720
Speaker 1: that type of privacy, so they're not dic.

343
00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 3: She just like went by herself. I don't really know

344
00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,280
Speaker 3: what on her head when she got Yeah, when she

345
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,080
Speaker 3: got pulled over, I mean there were reports too that

346
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,080
Speaker 3: you know, people were calling and saying that she was

347
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 3: driving crazy, But there were reports that the cops were

348
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800
Speaker 3: fought following her for like a very long time, up

349
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,879
Speaker 3: to an hour before she actually pulled over. But then

350
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,120
Speaker 3: some cop was interviewed and said, that's ridiculous.

351
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 2: But I've that.

352
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Seemed ridiculous, like because if she was really driving that erratically,

353
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna risk her harming somebody else or herself.

354
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,080
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking too. But I mean if

355
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,119
Speaker 3: they were behind her, because listen, like you get a

356
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 3: call like that and the cops pull up, and if

357
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 3: they if she had a license plate, which I'm sure

358
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,879
Speaker 3: she did, and they pulled it up, it was like,

359
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 3: oh okay, like there's they know who it is.

360
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 2: Unless the car's a crazy person drive for around.

361
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,439
Speaker 3: I know, but it just depends, like I guess, if

362
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 3: they felt like it was a controlled situation or something.

363
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's move on.

364
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 1: So, last May, this woman got in a serious crash

365
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 1: in Philly and police just posted that they are still

366
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 1: seeking help in identifying who she is.

367
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

368
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 3: So last May, this woman in North Philly walked out

369
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,640
Speaker 3: onto Broad Street in front of a car and got hit.

370
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,040
Speaker 3: We don't know the exact circumstances of what happened there,

371
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 3: but she was hit to a point where so Broad

372
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,400
Speaker 3: Street is like, actually, I would say it's the longest

373
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 3: street in Philadelphia, but there's air there's traffic lights at

374
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 3: every block. No, not really right or maybe like on

375
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 3: the main parts of it. Nah, in South Philly, and

376
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 3: there's pretty much lights almost on every street, So you

377
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 3: can't drive super fast, right, I would say, I.

378
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 1: Mean, you can drive fast, and people do it. In

379
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: theory because there's lights at every block, you shouldn't be

380
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: able to go that fast, but people certainly do. I'm

381
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: not as familiar with Broad Street up north because I

382
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 1: lived in South Philly and had to just deal with

383
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 1: it down there, but it goes pretty far.

384
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 2: It is considered a major road.

385
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 1: It's a couple of lanes across each way, and people

386
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 1: certainly do drive insane, But in this case, it seems

387
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 1: like this lady was just in the middle of the street.

388
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we see people do this. I was

389
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: driving around yesterday and there's very nice day out and

390
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: there's just people that like run across one thirty and stuff,

391
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, what are you doing?

392
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: And God, I hate when it gets warm out around here,

393
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: so it's like the most annoying thing like people just

394
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 3: I just was like, oh my god.

395
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely insane. Regardless, she was already standing in

396
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,239
Speaker 1: the roadway on Broad Street, and then this car was

397
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: driving just normally whatever.

398
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: We don't really know what was going on there.

399
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: And then the police are saying that she walked directly

400
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: in front of the car, so it's unknown if it

401
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,239
Speaker 1: was intentional or accidental or what exactly was going on.

402
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: But I just find the craziest part of the story

403
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: to be that almost a full year has gone by,

404
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: they have pretty clear pictures of this woman's face and

405
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: they don't have any way to identify her.

406
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, they're going to have to.

407
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Start with some kind of facial recognition or or DNA,

408
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: like it's the only way. It is insane to me

409
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: actually that someone's been in the Hut Hospital since May

410
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: continuously like that, cause I well, because she she clearly

411
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: had a traumatic brain injury and she was probably in

412
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 3: a coma for some time. Like she she looks, she

413
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: looks like she's potentially has something going on like that,

414
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: But she's fairly I would say, she's in between, Like

415
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 3: she's forty ish, right, you would say that just looking

416
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: at her picture.

417
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks about that.

418
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: But it's just so amazing to me they're very clear

419
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 3: pictures of like side view, front view, that that not

420
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: one person has come forward and said like, hey, I

421
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: know this person. I mean, we can't assume that that

422
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 3: she lives in the city or she's from the city.

423
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: But she was in like North Philly. It's not like

424
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: she was in the tourist area of Philly. She's like nobody,

425
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: Like nobody goes there to check out the section of

426
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: the city unlest they live there.

427
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: So like that's pure speculation, like she could have accidentally

428
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: ended up there taking the train or something like.

429
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: You don't that's that's outrageous though. I'm just saying, like,

430
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: you don't know, it's the situation.

431
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: It's pure speculation, but it's a good educated guess that

432
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 3: she's not that she is a resident, and it's potential.

433
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: So we don't know like exactly what happened, but there

434
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: is a potential that she was just like high as

435
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: a kite and standing in the middle of the street

436
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: and got hit.

437
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Right.

438
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: There's like all these different things, so she could be

439
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: it could be a drug situation, it could be an

440
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: attempted suicide situation like whatever. So so it is interesting

441
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: because I think that police don't ever want to reveal

442
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: people's faces like this. It's the same thing when a

443
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: person dies and their bodies at the medical examiner's office

444
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 3: for a long time and finally they're like, Okay, we've

445
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: exhausted every single possible thing we could do, and now

446
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: we need the public's help. So that's like what's happening now?

447
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the question I was gonna have for

448
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 1: you is like, at what point did they consider at

449
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: what point will they use police resources like doing DNA

450
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: on her, because like, is that even considered necessary? Or

451
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: would they spend that type of tax money on a

452
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: person that she said's alive?

453
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't think that it's a common situation,

454
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: but they have to because she's eventually going to be

455
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: to the point where she has to get released from

456
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: the hospital. And I guess they could put her in

457
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: one of these like Philadelphia government owned nursing home situations.

458
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: But I mean it would it would be nice if

459
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: because you're assuming that they's somewhere that there's a missing

460
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 3: person case. I mean, like, how could you be a

461
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: forty year old woman and just like nobody cares or

462
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: knows where you're at.

463
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: Well, I guess really sad.

464
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: Actually a possibility too, is I guess in theory she

465
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: could have lived here without she could not be from

466
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: here originally, but have lived here. And if they're only

467
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: releasing this picture, I mean they're putting the picture online.

468
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: But if it's only really getting distributed locally, let's say

469
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: she's from like Washington State or something, how is anybody

470
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna see it that knows her? Well, that's that's again

471
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: going to my drug theory. Like I was thinking that

472
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: it's potentially like maybe she was you know, addicted to

473
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: drugs and was in the city living here, either from

474
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: here or from somewhere else. I mean, we have like

475
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: tons of people that are doing that situation, and possibly

476
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: like her family just hasn't heard from her for years

477
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: because she's been you know, in and out of rehabit,

478
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: on the streets, addicted off, but back and forth, and

479
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: maybe someone just hasn't heard from her and assumed that

480
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: she died. But you know that, I mean, this happens

481
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: all the time with people who are on drugs. They

482
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: go missing for a while. So I mean, we'll keep

483
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: you guys updated if we hear any updates on it. Well, yeah,

484
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: think about that lady too, who like went missing and

485
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: then was just like living in a trailer in North

486
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: Carolina and they just found her.

487
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's and assuming they have some kind

488
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: of recognition that they have you know, missing cases across

489
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: missing person cases across the country that they could match

490
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: like a facial recognition thing. But again, like, let's say

491
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: that lady was a complete drug addict a year ago

492
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 3: and got hit by a car and was, you know,

493
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: thirty pounds underweight of what she is now and had

494
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: dirt all over her face and looked, you know, emaciated

495
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: and everything like that. And now it's like she's been

496
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 3: in a hospital, eating meals every day, not on drugs

497
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: every day. She looks one hundred percent different than she did,

498
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: you know, so maybe people on the street would recognize

499
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: her looking a certain way. I did see some accounts

500
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: were even putting like her hair and an outfit on

501
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: her to say like this is what she would have

502
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: looked like when she went to work with her hair done,

503
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: and like, you know, yeah, because and it is it's

504
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 3: crazy because when you put different hairstyles on a person

505
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: and then you're like, oh, okay, because like now it's

506
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: like her hair's just there and it's wet, like it

507
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: just looks like a person that's in the hospital that's

508
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: not doing their hair or anything and no makeup, right,

509
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: So it it is crazy to just put that visual

510
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: in people's mind.

511
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

512
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: So, also in Philly, a woman was shot after an

513
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: apparent argument over a hamster.

514
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: So there's not much to this story. I just thought

515
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: the headline was insane.

516
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: I just can't say hamster, like I have to think

517
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: about it because you know, Lubert says hampspur. Yeah, hampspur,

518
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: just like automatically go to that in my brain when

519
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I say it. I mean, what could possibly be worth

520
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: shooting another person over a hamster? Like this is the

521
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: most ridiculous headline I know.

522
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: And she's nineteen and apparently it was her boyfriend that

523
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: killed her.

524
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: Clearly there was some other deeper issue going on behind

525
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: the scenes, and the hamster probably really has nothing to

526
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: do with anything that happened. Also, like, what adult has

527
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: a hamster get angry comments?

528
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: They're seriously like they're they're a kid that has no

529
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: idea that they're just like rodents that do absolutely nothing

530
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: and smell terrible. But they go to the store and

531
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 3: have this idea that they're super cute and they want one,

532
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: and every single parent's like, okay, i'll get you on

533
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: and they spend all this money getting like that betting,

534
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: the cedar betting and the water bottle thing and everything,

535
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: and every single parent is like, I don't want one

536
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: of these things in my house. They do nothing. My

537
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: kid holds it, it like bites them. It peas and

538
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: poops all over it, escapes in the walls.

539
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: They always escape. My friend growing up had one in

540
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: her room and she woke up at like three o'clock

541
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: in the morning and it was crawling all over her.

542
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I would literally die.

543
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Like, no, I just I'm gonna put it out there

544
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: that no one over five years old wants to have

545
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: a hamster so like, and it's definitely not the childhood hamster,

546
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: because don't they die in like five days or whatever.

547
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: So remember we were watching your friend's hamster or was

548
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: it a guinea pig.

549
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: No, it was a hamster.

550
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: So they got like surgery on the hamster and.

551
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: Then okay, so this this, this is my friend Jen Hurt.

552
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: She had little kids, which is why she had the hamster.

553
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: And the thing started bleeding in the cage, so she

554
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: brought it to the vet, which already right there. I

555
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: would have been like, no, that we're done, We're done

556
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: with this. Let's just see what happens. I never even

557
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: would think to bring like an animal like that to

558
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: the vet.

559
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, they're just like whatever. So the thing's bleeding.

560
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: She brings it to the vet and they diagnosed this

561
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: fricking hamster with endometrial cancer. I'm not lying to you,

562
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: uterine cancer of the hamster. So they tell her they

563
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: could do surgery on this hamster and give this hamster

564
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: a hysterectomy. Right and already, I'm just like, you literally

565
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: paid five dollars for that hamster at the pet store,

566
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing right now? So all of

567
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: this and this was this was like twenty years ago,

568
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: so all of this, like it was hundreds of dollars

569
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: to get this surgery done. And they take out they

570
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: give this hamster a hysterectomy and give it to my

571
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: friend Jen actually because she is a cytotechnologist, so she

572
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: works in the pathology lab too, and she brings this

573
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: tiny little hamster uterus to the lab to look at

574
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: it under the microscope because she was like, I'll just

575
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: save myself some money and not have to get pathology

576
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: from you people, which you're just kind of like, why

577
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: would you do that anyway for a hamster. You're gonna

578
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: freaking give it like chemotherapy, Like it's just the dumbest

579
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: shit I ever heard. Okay, So anyway, she looks at

580
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: this little hamster uterus under the microscope and it has

581
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: cancer and all this stuff. So the thing survives. It

582
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: has sutures and it lives. And like then they decide,

583
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: you know, they already had this planned vacation and they

584
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: go on plan vacation. So May and Maria are watching

585
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: this hamster while they're away, and Maria, how.

586
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Old were you ten? Like I don't even know you

587
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: were just I don't even know. I was probably around.

588
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: The Yeah, So and I would go downstairs and bring

589
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: the mall in and I'd say, like, ray, go upstairs

590
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: and feed the hamster. So she comes downstairs and she says,

591
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: I said, how's to hamster?

592
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: And she's like, it's good. It's sleeping.

593
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, did you, like, did you

594
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: go shake it? And she says no, And I said,

595
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: we'll go shake in just like make sure, like let

596
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: it know that the food's here and stuff like that.

597
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: And she goes up there and she's just like it's moving,

598
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: it's still sleeping.

599
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh Jesus Christ.

600
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: So I go up there and the thing is freaking

601
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: like rigor mortis in the corner and like cold, cold as.

602
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: Hell, And I'm just like, you know what if great?

603
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, like down the Shore used to be

604
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: able to get those furry anna they were like more

605
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: realistic stuff.

606
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the cat that had like the real furro

607
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, that's what it felt like because it

608
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: was fully stiff, and I'm just like gross.

609
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: So then I'm like, great, this thing survived endometrial cancer, surgery,

610
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: cancer survivor it needed like a ribbon, survived endometrial cancer.

611
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 3: And uh and it died on our watch. So I

612
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: called Jen in a panic, and I'm like, dude, do

613
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: you want me to go to the pet store right

614
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: now and like swap this thing out like your kids

615
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: won't even notice.

616
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: But that's what she should have done to begin with.

617
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: It's it was like an all black hamster. Like it

618
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't It's not like it had specific spots on it

619
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: or anything that you could identify it.

620
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't even believe that.

621
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: I feel like kids look at a hamster for one

622
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 3: day anyway, they probably didn't even care about it, Like

623
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: it's just the whole entire thing was ridiculous.

624
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: But it was kind of a thing. DEDI got the

625
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: hermit crab down the shore when she was little.

626
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: She totally blew it off for like a month, and

627
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: then she went to play with it one day and

628
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: it like.

629
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Completely fell out of the shell.

630
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

631
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: It was just like, yeah, it was just like completely

632
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: just mummified and shriveled, and yeah, I don't know, like whatever,

633
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: So give it's definitely so side note, but it definitely

634
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: isn't worth killing a person over.

635
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the Groserroom.

636
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Guys.

637
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: This week's uh celebrity death dissection in the grocery Room

638
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: was on Eric Dean and we talk all about his

639
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: diagnosis with als and what that kind of a death

640
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: is like, show pictures and just tell stories about that.

641
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: What else did we have going on in the gross

642
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Room this week? We had a guy who died by

643
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: stabbing himself in the heart with a very unusual item,

644
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: not a knife. All that and more in the Grosyroom.

645
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: Head over to the Grocerroom dot com now to sign up.

646
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, this story is terrible, all right. Listen.

647
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: A teenager is facing a homicide charge after running over

648
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: his high school teacher trying to flee from a prank

649
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: at the teacher's home.

650
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: So I guess these kids.

651
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: This is like a thing that that happens all over

652
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: the country, maybe a world senior pranks, right, And I

653
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: guess a group of teenagers in high school had of

654
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: course they're like seniors, so a lot of them are eighteen,

655
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: got in a truck and went over to this teacher's

656
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 3: house and like toilet papered his house, and when the

657
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 3: teacher came outside to look at it, he like tripped

658
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: and fell in the street in front of the truck

659
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: as it was pulling away, and the kid accidentally ran

660
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: the guy over. They pulled over right away and were

661
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: helping him until ems got there, brought him to the

662
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: hospital and he was declared dead. So the police have

663
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: like a ton of crazy charges on them, first degree

664
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: vehicular homicide.

665
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Well, the driver who's eighteen was charged with first degree

666
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: vehicular homicide, reckless driving, criminal trustpass, littering, and then the

667
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: other four people with him were charged with criminal trustpass

668
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: and littering.

669
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: So now his family, this is the teacher's family, came

670
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: out and was like, please drop the charges against these kids, Like,

671
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: like my husband was was in on this with them

672
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: that he was okay with this, like these these kids

673
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: were trying to pull a prince And I was thinking

674
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: that yesterday too, because that story had just came out

675
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: last night. But I was just thinking, like most most

676
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: teachers that you would do something like this too, aren't

677
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: like the assholes. It's like one that you would think

678
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: would get a kick out of it. You know, No,

679
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: not all the.

680
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Time, because people will be like, you're an asshole in

681
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a TP your house? Which did you also notice they

682
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: were calling it they rolled the house Like that doesn't

683
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: even make any sense.

684
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, that might be what they call it inert certain

685
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: parts of the country, Like, yeah, I don't know, that

686
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: could be one of their like weird brain brought words.

687
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell they say. I don't know.

688
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, regardless, like I think they could do it

689
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: to teachers like this who were in on it, or

690
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: ones that they were just like, seriously, f you. But

691
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: like I am looking at, obviously, a person is dead

692
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: and the kids need to have some type of responsibility

693
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: for it.

694
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: But like this was clearly an accident.

695
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like this kid already has enough to deal

696
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: with like doing something like this, but.

697
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: It just was it just it's.

698
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Just like a it's a freak accident. Actually it's not

699
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: even like you know what I mean, like the guy

700
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: tripped in the street and it was just the kid

701
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: was back and you know, it just it just was

702
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: like a freak accident. I just think that the charges

703
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: are outrageous. No, he's eighteen years old. I'm sure having

704
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: the visual of doing CPR on your T shirt that

705
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: you just ran over is enough punishment.

706
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I agree with you. And if they I

707
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: just don't even understand that the charges seem so extreme

708
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: for this. And if the family is saying like we

709
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: don't want to press charges, then that should say.

710
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: It right there.

711
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this is one of the most disturbing

712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: stories I've ever heard. And I feel like that says

713
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot because we cover a lot of terrible things

714
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: on here. But at five below, this mom and her

715
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: six year old were shopping. The kid had an accident

716
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: in her pants, so the mom brought the kid in

717
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: the bathroom, locked her in a stall, and said, don't

718
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: open this door unless you hear this special knock. Unbeknownst

719
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: to them, a pedophile was listening nearby, so as the

720
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: mom leaves the bathroom to go get the kid another

721
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: pair of pants. The pedophile goes to the bathroom, uses

722
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: the special knock to trick the girl into letting him

723
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: in so he could sexually assault her.

724
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: I'm just asking you, because you're not a parent yet,

725
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: like what you think about this whole situation.

726
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it really upsets me because like in some regard,

727
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the mom left a kid like

728
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: just take her around, grab the pants, pay for them,

729
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and then take her in the bathroom because she was young.

730
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Six years old.

731
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: And then in another guard I don't want to blame

732
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: her because like it was a really I'm sure that's

733
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: a frantic moment as a parent when you're just like

734
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I'm just trying to

735
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: like do something really quick, and it was just like

736
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: not well thought out.

737
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: I don't like the whole story is bizarre to me

738
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: because I know you're saying that, like the accident thing.

739
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: I just think for a six year old to have

740
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: an accident is weird.

741
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: So like if and it.

742
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: Happens like children children do, certain children do till the

743
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: time they're you know, ten years old whatever, But when

744
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: that happens. This isn't This is not like a freak thing.

745
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: A child doesn't just like pee their pants, that never

746
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: does it before. So like I feel like this has

747
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: happened before, if the kid, if the kid has accidents.

748
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: So that's number one.

749
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that it was necessarily like a super

750
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: shock to her that this happened, But like, I just

751
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: would never ever leave my kid, And this is like

752
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: a situation that's just weird.

753
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't.

754
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: Like what if you go out into the parking lot

755
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: and you get hit by a car and your kids

756
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: locked in the bathroom at the five below? What if

757
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: there's a shooting and the kids locked in the bathroom

758
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: at the five below? There's like what if there's a robbery,

759
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: what if there's this? Like you just don't ever leave

760
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: the kid out of your sight like that. So I

761
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: just think that that's just bizarre, Like and especially five

762
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: blow cells clothes, So I don't But I don't think

763
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: they really have like little kids. They don't have pants

764
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: for little kids. They wouldn't have a pair of pants.

765
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't think she left the store. I think she

766
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: put her in the bathroom. Is like I'm gonna grab

767
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: you something from the store and pay for it and

768
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: then change you don't.

769
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: I just think it's I just think it's it's weird.

770
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give the mom that benefit of the

771
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: doubt because like I am not yet a mother, I

772
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: have not yet been in a frantic situation. But I

773
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: do agree with you. I just don't think there's any

774
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: situation in which you leave your kid that young unattended.

775
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: But like then at the same time, it's like you

776
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: don't think that somebody's listening in the next aisle over

777
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: and is going to use your tactic to go sexually

778
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: assault your little kid. Yeah, And it's it's like, I mean,

779
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: it sucks because in a realistic world you should be

780
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: able to do that. But then I always take into

781
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: account the world that we actually live in, and it's

782
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: just like there's just so many you know, when you

783
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: go back to the bathrooms and stores like that, and

784
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: which is why, like if we're in the craft store,

785
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: like Michael's Craft Store, and the kids want to go

786
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, like I go with them and stand

787
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: right outside just because I'm like if they if I

788
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: just say, yeah, just go to the bathroom, Well, what's

789
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: behind the bathroom the back door of the building, like

790
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: they could, they could get kidnapped and shit, Like I

791
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: just think of that all the time because you hear stuff.

792
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I think we're more hyper aware of things like that

793
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: because of what we do for work. Because like I'm

794
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: going to use this morning as an example, Ricky and

795
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: I are driving in my neighborhood and there's a bunch

796
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: of kids that look like they're under ten standing on

797
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: the corner waiting for the school bus, right, And Ricky

798
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: goes that kid's out here every morning with his mom

799
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: and nobody talks to him, which makes me want to cry,

800
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: you know. Like then I'm like, well, with our kid,

801
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I would if all his friends are playing, I'd maybe

802
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: give him the freedom and sit in my car on

803
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: the corner and like watch him. But I'm not just

804
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: gonna like leave him there unattended. And he was like,

805
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: hope be fine, And I'm like, dude, you were ten

806
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: years old in two thousand and one. The world was

807
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: very different, Like what are you talking about?

808
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I and I don't want to be like an

809
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: overprotective parent like that. And I would never think in

810
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: that particular situation that there was going to be a

811
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: sexual assault.

812
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: But at the.

813
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: Same time, you're just kind of like the people that

814
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: work there, they have keys to the thing.

815
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Like it's just like.

816
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: We live in a mindset of like worst case scenario

817
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: at all times, which like could be very problematic for us,

818
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: and we you know, like fear going on airplanes, fear

819
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: going out in public because of all the mass shootings,

820
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: like everything like that. But I don't know, Like I

821
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: don't I.

822
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: Also I'm just I'm really just trying to give this.

823
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: Mom the benefit of the doubt, even though I don't

824
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: agree with the fact that she left this kid in

825
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: the bathroom unattended like this, but like, and I don't

826
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: know if it's a lack of situational awareness or if

827
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: this guy like was really not seen and they really

828
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: didn't know, but like the fact that he was able

829
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: to overhear the entire conversation and so quickly come up

830
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: with a plan to do this. I mean, of course

831
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: he already had a previous charge, and you're like, why

832
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: are you out in general, he was just got out

833
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: three days but he was, Yeah, he was just released

834
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: three days before this for a conviction involving a child

835
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: under thirteen.

836
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, like.

837
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: That's what he was looking to do, Like, and that's

838
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: that's what these people do. This is exactly why you

839
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: don't leave your kid. Like I don't know, Like I

840
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: just feel like if my kid pete or pooped their pants,

841
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: I'd be like, let's get in the car and go

842
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: home and like clean up.

843
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. You know.

844
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: What else too, I found disturbing is that it said

845
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: she screamed as loud as she could, using a lion's roar,

846
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: which is a technique they learn in girl scouts, like

847
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: and it it did end up scaring him away, But

848
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: like we're teaching six year olds to scream in situations

849
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: like this, Like what is wrong with this world we

850
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: live in?

851
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: Well, it is what it is, though, like you have

852
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: to adapt to it.

853
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: And I mean it's but I think that she was

854
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: able to get the guy to go away, but he

855
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: did sexually assault her in some way.

856
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he assaulted her. I mean she's gonna be traumatized forever,

857
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: Like she's old enough that she's gonna remember this, So

858
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: you have to think about that. And then they ended

859
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: up catching him at our relatives home about a mile away.

860
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: The rest of him. He's in jail, and of course

861
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: he has bonded seven hundred thousand dollars. Whi's like, I

862
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: don't know if this person can afford this or not. No,

863
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean, like, why are we putting these

864
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: people on the street, Like it's been said time and

865
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: time again by experts, like pedophiles of this nature, especially

866
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: violent ones, cannot be rehabilitated.

867
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: It's the law right now, though, That's what are you

868
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: gonna do. You can't you can't just put everybody like, well.

869
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: This is what happens when we call them maps and

870
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: we try to try to make it sound nicer than

871
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: it is. You're a sex offender, yeah, a rapist, yes,

872
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Like stop trying to make it sound better. It's not

873
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: a nice thing. Like, let's stop, all right. In La,

874
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: a man has died after publicly cutting off his own penis,

875
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: sliced his throat and stabbed himself.

876
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Also try to cut his arm off.

877
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess. I guess the way the story

878
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: was worded was like, oh, he died after he cut

879
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: off his penis, but that that really wouldn't kill you,

880
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 3: I guess in theory, like you do have an artery

881
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: in the penis that if it was severed, you could

882
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: bleed to death eventually, but it wouldn't happen quickly at

883
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: all because it's so little.

884
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: But it's a better headline.

885
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: So it's a better headline, like he died because he

886
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: stabbed himself to death. That's why he died. And clearly

887
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: he was having some kind of psychotic episode that calls

888
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: him to cut off his penis and stab himself and

889
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: potentially try to sever his own arm like something you

890
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: know in the gross room. If you just go on

891
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 3: the search bar and type in penis, you're gonna see

892
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: like way too many cases of people cutting off their

893
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: own penis, Like it's a thing.

894
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: Didn't one guy didn't? We just talk about one guy

895
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: that did it twice?

896
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I had a case within the past two months

897
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: of a guy that did it and got it reattached

898
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: and then did it again. It's yeah, it's it's and

899
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: got it reattached again.

900
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: So we cover the most famous case of this Loreena

901
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: bob Oh.

902
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah specials. Yes, so forgot about that.

903
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: Read all about that one and all the other incidents

904
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: all right, onto your questions and emails. If you have

905
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: a question or story for us. Please submit it to

906
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. His first one is from Crystal.

907
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: She said, So, I am a cop in Delaware and

908
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: a DUI instructor in all states except Utah. The magic

909
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: number for a dui is point oh eight.

910
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: That means it Wait, so what is it in Utah?

911
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: Then we should have looked that up. Let me look

912
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: really quick so we have the info so interesting that

913
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm writing up for the book Princess Diana's Death and

914
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: the legal limit of alcohol in France is point oh five.

915
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: According to Google. In Utah is also point oh five,

916
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: which I find interesting.

917
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: I think I don't know why it's not like that country.

918
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you, Like, I really think that if

919
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: it's if it's if it's lowered to even that, that

920
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: that maybe it might deter some people.

921
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Yes and no, because like I don't think the number matters.

922
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I think it's the fact that people don't get punished

923
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: enough for it, and that's why, yeah, they keep doing it.

924
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, but I don't think that the number

925
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: matters for like an alcoholic. But I think for there

926
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: has to be documented cases of people that really just

927
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: don't drink that much and go out to dinner and

928
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 3: just have a little too much and drink and get

929
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: in an accident, kill people and stuff too or or

930
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: just worse, just getting pulled over and losing your license

931
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: over something like that. That would maybe make people think

932
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: ahead of time not to do it.

933
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: But that mayor of Lumberton that got arrested last Saint

934
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: Patrick's day for driving with a point three zero with

935
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: her two year old like piss as she's.

936
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: Not like a slap on the wrist. Well, it's because

937
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: she's because she's a politician, all right.

938
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: Anyway, So let me start over. So I'm a cop

939
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: in Delaware, do you I instructor all stats? Utah magic

940
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: numbers point o eight. We now know that in Utah

941
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: it's point o five. That means that no matter what

942
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: you blow an eight or over, you're getting a dui.

943
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: You could still get a dui if your BAC is

944
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: under a point eight. If the cops can prove impairment,

945
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: like Nicole said, you could have a few drinks and drive.

946
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: You just can't be impaired. The impairment is proven by

947
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: those tests where cops have you walk the line and

948
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: stand on one leg with the added observations of slurred

949
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: speech and balance, peeing pants, et cetera. So, Maria, you

950
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: have a glass or two of wine, may raise your

951
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: BAC to only point o two. If you're impaired by it,

952
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: you could absolutely get a DUI. Someone who drinks daily

953
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: may be able to drink two bottles of wine and

954
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: do the test fine and not look drunk, but if

955
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: their BAC is over point o eight, they are still

956
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: considered DUI. In the case of the driver bicyclist, even

957
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: if the driver's BAC is under point o eight, as

958
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: long as the officers were decent and did the appropriate

959
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: investigation to prove impairment, he is still considered DUI.

960
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's so he okay, So we're talking about

961
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: the the Johnny gudrou case. So, so what she's saying

962
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: is regardless if they if they could prove that his

963
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: blood alcohol was below the legal limit, they could still

964
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 3: get him with driving like impaired. Ye, but that's that's

965
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: a way lesser charge though than driving while under the influence.

966
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: I think that's like.

967
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: Still, it's not going to get him off scott free,

968
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: like he's trying to get off, like he wants the

969
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: whole case.

970
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna get him off scot free.

971
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: But that's a significant charge to drop.

972
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I agree with that, but like in

973
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: his eyes it seems like he wants the entire case

974
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: thrown away, but like you still did something wrong.

975
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 2: Well O J. Simpson wanted the whole case thrown away

976
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: like everybody does, and he got it.

977
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: No, he's okay, Simpson, not this total rando. All right,

978
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: This is from Samantha. The interlock devices are made much

979
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: better now I had somebody really close to me shall remain, namely,

980
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: just get one installed. And they work like this. It

981
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: is installed by a mechanic directly into the ignition that

982
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: works with the companies quote renting them out to offenders.

983
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: They have cameras installed on the inside of your windshield

984
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: pointed at you. If you blow above a point o two,

985
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: the vehicle will not start. If you try to start

986
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: the vehicle after you had alcohol and it is above

987
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: point oh two, it keeps a log of it even

988
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: if you can't start the car. If that happens three

989
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: or more times in a month, they tack on an

990
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: extra three months that you must have the device in

991
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: your car. You are also not allowed to drive the

992
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: vehicle with that installed. If you get pulled over and

993
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: you're not in that car, they can arrest you and

994
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: bring back charges. Having the device is not cheap either.

995
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 1: It costs over one hundred dollars to rent a month,

996
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: and around thirty dollars every month for the mechanic to

997
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: retrieve info from the device. If you blow above a

998
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: point oh eight, the vehicle will be locked out and

999
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: you must take the device. The blow part is detached, detachable,

1000
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: so they can retrieve info from it back to the

1001
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: mechanic and contact the company renting it out to have

1002
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: them unlock it for a large fee. If you don't

1003
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: pay on time, your vehicle is locked out. Oh and

1004
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: certain vinegars and foods can make you blow dirty, so

1005
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful what you eat before you drive.

1006
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: It's pretty effective and hard to abuse. Now that's interesting,

1007
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: So it, I mean, is it can?

1008
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: I wonder?

1009
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 3: So she's saying there's a camera, so like you couldn't

1010
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: have somebody else blow into it for you? But like

1011
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: that's kind of weird. Is the thing recording you at

1012
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: all times?

1013
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: And stuff?

1014
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess when you break the law, you

1015
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: kind of lose some of your rights in that regard.

1016
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: But like I know of a situation where somebody needed

1017
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: their car moved at night out of a driveway and

1018
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: they had been drinking, but like somebody needed to leave,

1019
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: so they had somebody else do it because they were

1020
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: like they weren't even trying to get in the car,

1021
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: like they were just like I can't move my car

1022
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: because of this.

1023
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: And so they had Maybe that was maybe that was before.

1024
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this was pretty recent, So like I

1025
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: don't know if they do it everywhere or depending on

1026
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: the severity.

1027
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: Of your DUI I don't know.

1028
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know all right. Last is from Kim. I

1029
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: wanted to share a story with you guys involving a

1030
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: mother running over a child plot twist.

1031
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: The kid is me.

1032
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: So my sister, my mom, and me were getting back

1033
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: from dance lessons. I was in first grade at the time.

1034
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 1: We stopped to get some fast food on the way home,

1035
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: and my mom was super strict on not eating in

1036
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: her new minivans. As soon as we pulled into the driveway,

1037
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: I opened up the automatic car door, not sure why

1038
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: it even opened up, and decided to hop out of

1039
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: the slow moving car so I could eat my food.

1040
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: I fell on my knees and remember it hurting so bad.

1041
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't get up. I looked on my right and

1042
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: see my mom's car moving still and she completely ran

1043
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: over my hips.

1044
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so bad.

1045
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: I remember screaming, crying, and we went straight to the hospital.

1046
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: My dad carried me in and told the nurses I

1047
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: got ran over and they just stood there in shock

1048
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: and didn't believe him. Apparently, when you're that young, your

1049
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: bones are like rubber, so I didn't break anything. I'm

1050
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: now thirty three and was able to live a normal

1051
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: life and have a child of my own. Just thought

1052
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: it was interesting how flexible bones are before fully forming.

1053
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: Two adult bones. Wow, that is true.

1054
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Actually, I always say that, like when little kids fall,

1055
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: they just bounce because they're cartilage. We that is crazy,

1056
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: and I would love to hear what your mom thinks

1057
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: about that. Now, God, that must have been the most

1058
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: awful feeling ever, and she really could have I mean,

1059
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: not even just your bones, but just like ruptured your

1060
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: pelvic organs or or your intestines or something like that.

1061
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: Like you're just lucky that nothing happened. And it's kind

1062
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: of a cool story because you didn't get hurt. Yeah,

1063
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: that's what God, your mother, I know. Do you guys

1064
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: like make fun of her at family meals because we

1065
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: would definitely make fun of momam for something like that.

1066
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: I know she only hits our houses, not Oh my god,

1067
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: I can't. No, she hit my sister's house twice, two

1068
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: different houses, two different times, two different houses. She never

1069
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: hit my house yet. And yet you know what's funny though,

1070
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: So I have, you know, like the fence next to

1071
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: my driveway, and I tell them that they're not allowed

1072
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: to park in my driveway because I'm scared they're going

1073
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: to hit my fence and put it like she would

1074
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: put a debt in my fence and just be like,

1075
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: oh well, like she's not giving me the money to

1076
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: fix it. It would piss me off so bad. So I said,

1077
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 3: don't drive in my driveway.

1078
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the way both of our houses

1079
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: are like, you don't let them drive in the drive

1080
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: you don't let them park in the driveway, so like

1081
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: it's not an issue for you. And my driveway's not

1082
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: really like that close to my house, so it's like

1083
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: not an issue. But I'm surprised they haven't hit their

1084
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: own house.

1085
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: Based on how their driveway is. And I'm surprised they

1086
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 2: haven't hit Louie's house. But there's time, all.

1087
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: Right, guys, We're gonna have our event in horse From

1088
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania on April tenth and eleventh for the Center for

1089
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Forensic Science Research and Education. The tickets for that are live,

1090
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: and don't forget, if you are a Grocery member, you

1091
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: get a really good discount. Actually would benefit everybody to

1092
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: sign up for the gross room if they are not

1093
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: a member and then get a discounted ticket.

1094
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would still be cheaper than paying for

1095
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: the full price of the ticket.

1096
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: And then you get like amazing content every day. So yeah,

1097
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: think about this.

1098
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 3: So let's talk about this event a little bit. We're

1099
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: doing a live episode of Mother Knows Death, so we

1100
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 3: don't know what we're going to be talking about, obviously,

1101
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: because it's going to be the latest news of the week.

1102
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to be doing a lecture called

1103
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: dead Side Manners. That's all I'll tell you for now.

1104
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: And then our friend Joe jackalone is going to be

1105
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: there with us too, and he is. His lectures are

1106
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: so funny and entertaining. I just love him. He's just

1107
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: like so funny.

1108
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm like geeking out waiting for his lecture. I can

1109
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: can't wait.

1110
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's just he's just one of those people

1111
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: that you know that you wanted to have as a

1112
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: professor in college because they're they're just like entertaining to

1113
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: listen to, you know, oh yeah, inappropriate a little bit

1114
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: like on that. You know, he's like our kind of funny.

1115
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: So and I will be like eight months pregnant at

1116
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: this show, So it's going to be our last one

1117
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: for a while, So you guys don't want to miss

1118
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: that because it's probably gonna be a little bit of

1119
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: time before we start picking up with shows again. But

1120
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: it is gonna be such an awesome weekend filled with events,

1121
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: and we have Joe joining us and then some other

1122
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: guest speakers to be announced.

1123
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be it's gonna be really awesome, and it's

1124
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: for a great cause for the future of forensic science

1125
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: and research.

1126
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Show.

1127
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely come and our friends will be there. It's

1128
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: gonna be great.

1129
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1130
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: Please head over to Apple or Spotify, leave us a

1131
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: five star review, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and if

1132
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: you have stories for us, please submit them to stories

1133
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: at Mothernosdeath dot com.

1134
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 3: See you guys, Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.

1135
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.

1136
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

1137
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I

1138
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 3: have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

1139
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

1140
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

1141
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

1142
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

1143
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: Always remember that science is changing every day and the

1144
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

1145
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: of those subjects at the time of publication. If you

1146
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or

1147
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 3: having a medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit

1148
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 3: an urgent care center, emergency room, or hospital. Please rate, review,

1149
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 3: and subscribe to Mother Knows Death on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,

1150
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: or anywhere you get podcasts.

1151
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: Thanks