Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, January thirtieth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're available
Speaker 1: to take over as a play caller. It's me and
Speaker 1: your man named G Marcus Green joyed by Michael I
Speaker 1: have Florio and Lakwan Jones. So Florio several days removed.
Speaker 1: Are we feeling any better? How are we feeling about
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 2: You guys saw the text I sent for the hour
Speaker 2: before we started recording. It's gotten worse. It's gotten worse
Speaker 2: because I also, like you said the other day, Marcus,
Speaker 2: I enjoy my job here, but in livetime, I kept
Speaker 2: feeling like a lot of the spots were questionable, not
Speaker 2: just on that one play. And I'll just say there's
Speaker 2: stuff going around the internet that makes me feel a
Speaker 2: little bit more justified. So yeah, not not great. This
Speaker 2: is gonna be one that takes a long time to
Speaker 2: the past. I've been like, look, the Chiefs have just
Speaker 2: been the better team. I don't feel that way this
Speaker 2: time around.
Speaker 3: Is this a thing that you're probably not going to
Speaker 3: watch the super Bowl? Like?
Speaker 2: Is it that bad? Well, if I didn't have this job, maybe,
Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm also like my super Bowl
Speaker 2: wish though, would be like, let Kendrick play as long
Speaker 2: as he wants, Like that's my let him play every
Speaker 2: album start to finish.
Speaker 4: I I don't care. So it's funny you say that.
Speaker 1: So I've been lucky enough to be on our super
Speaker 1: Bowl Today show, which runs on digital. It's been me
Speaker 1: and Patrick Claybon in the last couple of years, and
Speaker 1: one thing they have. One of the little bits that
Speaker 1: we do every year is trying to guess the set
Speaker 1: list for the halftime artist. So like two years ago
Speaker 1: when it was Rihanna, I think we went over ten.
Speaker 1: I don't think she played songs that we listed. I
Speaker 1: think last year we might have gotten a couple of them.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious because like I feel like with Kendrick,
Speaker 1: there's a very narrow amount of songs that you can
Speaker 1: that he can play for a super Bowl audience. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I feel like Patrick
Speaker 1: gonna have a better chance to get a couple of.
Speaker 2: Hits this shear Ron. He's one hundred percent not gonna
Speaker 2: do the actual verses to not like us.
Speaker 1: Right, like, oh what hm man, that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: big you know what more than who wins the game.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the biggest mystery of Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 2: He's clearly doing that. But like, is he really gonna
Speaker 2: say all this stuff, yes, I'm here?
Speaker 4: Does he have to?
Speaker 1: Does he just does he just cut the music and
Speaker 1: let the audience just scream it out loud and then
Speaker 1: that way he is.
Speaker 4: Absolved from any responsibility.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's literally the song that's playing in his
Speaker 2: ad for the Super Bowl, so we're getting the chorus
Speaker 2: and we know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, not much news happening, at least, none of
Speaker 1: any real fantasy relevance, so not much dud to talk about.
Speaker 1: We are continuing along with our exit interviews that we've
Speaker 1: got picks twenty one through twenty four and a little
Speaker 1: bit of Pro Bowl fund since that is coming up
Speaker 1: this week. The Pro Bowl Games, which I guess I
Speaker 1: think that's the official name now right, it's the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl Games, because you got the skills competition, you've got
Speaker 1: the flag football game, so that's what it is. We'll
Speaker 1: have a little bit of fun with that at the
Speaker 1: end of the show. But let's get going on our
Speaker 1: exit interviews. Pick number twenty one in this draft belongs
Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They went ten and seven this
Speaker 1: past year. What went right?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Gee, Harris question Mark had over one thousand rushing yards,
Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns, two hundred and eighty three receiving yards.
Speaker 1: He was the RB twenty two. I don't know, la Quan.
Speaker 1: I just felt like the Pittsburgh backfield situation in general
Speaker 1: was just pretty unsatisfying this year.
Speaker 4: What did you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of ups and downs. Man,
Speaker 3: there just wasn't enough fantasy output for me to fill
Speaker 3: hunptable having Jalen Moore or Najie Harrison the starting lineup,
Speaker 3: I mean, running back twenty two is kind of higher
Speaker 3: than what expected. I would have thought he finished outside
Speaker 3: the top twenty five, But more so, it's just really
Speaker 3: unfortunate that we cannot get a Najie Harris of you know,
Speaker 3: expectations that we had his rookie season, like he was
Speaker 3: supposed to be one of the top top backs, and
Speaker 3: you know, it just has not worked out to be
Speaker 3: that way. So I'm not really excited for him, you know,
Speaker 3: moving on to whatever journey he goes on after the
Speaker 3: Steelers or if he stays, but I just feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's just unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I remember taking that rookie season with a huge not
Speaker 1: just a grain of salt, but like with a whole
Speaker 1: salt shaker, because he had what one hundred targets in
Speaker 1: that first season, ninety four targets, seventy four catches. That
Speaker 1: was with a broken down Ben Roethlisberger, who couldn't move,
Speaker 1: who couldn't push the ball downfield, who just gave him
Speaker 1: a ton of panic targets. And I felt like he
Speaker 1: was going to struggle to to duplicate that. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's funny because I'm looking at it now with the
Speaker 1: seventy four catches, four hundred and sixty seven.
Speaker 4: Yards like that was it. Wow.
Speaker 1: So that part of it, I felt like he wasn't
Speaker 1: really gonna be able to duplicate. Ever again, I thought
Speaker 1: the rushing numbers would be better. He had twelve hundred
Speaker 1: yards that first season. He hasn't gotten to ten fifty
Speaker 1: since then. That is the part to me that's a
Speaker 1: little bit disappointing in this whole thing.
Speaker 2: His efficiency has been better, though, he just has less touches,
Speaker 2: like because Jalen Warren has come in and kind of
Speaker 2: he is who he is at this point.
Speaker 4: But who is he?
Speaker 2: He's a thousand yard runner who isn't going to give
Speaker 2: you much as a pass catcher. And you know what
Speaker 2: he is. He is a week to week RB three
Speaker 2: that will finish the year as an RB two. That's
Speaker 2: what he's been for three years in a row. Now.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I know, we like saying a
Speaker 1: thousand yard rusher. It's like a nice round number and
Speaker 1: a nice benchmark. But as the NFL keeps adding games
Speaker 1: to the schedule, it becomes less and less impressive. Right
Speaker 1: Like when they played a twelve game schedule, one thousand
Speaker 1: yards seemed like, you know, it wasn't bad. Like you
Speaker 1: have to average eighty three yards a game. Then it's
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen games that then you have to average like
Speaker 1: sixty something yards a game. At seventeen you're averaging you know, even.
Speaker 4: Less than that.
Speaker 1: When they eventually go to eighteen games, a thousand yards
Speaker 1: over an eighteen game season is fifty five yards a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not great. It's a knee jerk reaction that we
Speaker 1: all have. At some point, we got to change our mindset,
Speaker 1: like a thousand yard season is like eh, in.
Speaker 2: Eighteen games, like a thousand becomes like twelve hundred yards
Speaker 2: to me, Like, yeah, that would be the new I
Speaker 2: also do think, though, that Nase is kind of a
Speaker 2: victim of the time he played in, Like if naj
Speaker 2: Harris played ten or fifteen years ago, we're probably viewing
Speaker 2: him very differently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. I do think that's fair.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Jaalen Warren. He was sort of one of
Speaker 1: the things that went wrong, partially because of injury. I
Speaker 1: just wasn't on the field a lot of five hundred
Speaker 1: and eleven rushing yards, three hundred and ten receiving yards.
Speaker 1: He was the RB thirty seven. The other thing that
Speaker 1: sort of went wrong was George Pickens. He had moments
Speaker 1: where he was great at the nine hundred receiving yards,
Speaker 1: three receiving touchdowns, was wide receiver thirty nine. So Flooryal,
Speaker 1: I had a thought about George Pickens. I know you
Speaker 1: watch Severance, o'kwan. I don't know if you watched Severance
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the best show on TV.
Speaker 4: It's great. It's great.
Speaker 1: So I had a thought about George Pickens that maybe
Speaker 1: he's severed and those moments, those moments when he just
Speaker 1: sort of went nuts, was because somehow his inny got
Speaker 1: out and was just confused about this situation he was in. Right,
Speaker 1: We're like those moments when the snap happens and he
Speaker 1: immediately starts fighting or starts pushing. So it's just like
Speaker 1: you just were thrown into a situation and you don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, so you just gotta fight somebody.
Speaker 1: That was my only Yeah, Like that's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That that was my thought about George Pickens.
Speaker 2: Like when the ref blows the whistle pre snap, that's
Speaker 2: like his elevator beep and he just like yeah, and which,
Speaker 2: by the way, spoiler alert, Lakwan covered ears there's no
Speaker 2: beat when Helly gets in the elevator and the less
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing that out. What Yeah, that I've I've
Speaker 2: done a lot of severance rabbit holes a couple of days. Wow,
Speaker 2: I got to get on the show severnth and shrinking
Speaker 2: my opinion too. Best news shows on and they're both apples,
Speaker 2: so it's worth it. Yeah, I think George Pickens, I
Speaker 2: think it's hard to put him in what went wrong
Speaker 2: because his numbers don't look as great because he missed
Speaker 2: some time due to injury. But like, if you give
Speaker 2: him the additional three games that he missed, we're probably
Speaker 2: talking about him having close to a career high in yards.
Speaker 2: The touchdown number was really low, and that's where I
Speaker 2: think he disappointed. But like next year, if I think
Speaker 2: George Pickens goes as probably a wide receiver three, I
Speaker 2: think it's a fair price to pay for him because
Speaker 2: the upside is really high. We know what he can do.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I love your theory on him being
Speaker 2: in a severance character because literally when he's out there,
Speaker 2: he's even gonna make a highlight worthy play or he's
Speaker 2: gonna fight someone, And you just kind of gotta pick
Speaker 2: your poison on that.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like you sort of take the good with the bad,
Speaker 1: at least for now. And I'm curious what happens. You know,
Speaker 1: in the offseason, they got a lot of free agents
Speaker 1: they gotta deal with. You mentioned Najee Harris, LaQuan, Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Jalen Warren, Mike Williams all set to his
Speaker 1: free agency. This team really due for a major makeover
Speaker 1: at some point. They are they're sort of living I
Speaker 1: keep talking about this football purgatory that they are living
Speaker 1: in right where they are good enough to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk a lot about Mike Tomlin and
Speaker 1: his streak of never having a losing season, but they're
Speaker 1: not good of Like nobody ever looks at the Steelers
Speaker 1: and thinks that they are a true contender to win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl right now, and they're not getting high
Speaker 1: enough draft picks where they can get some of those
Speaker 1: game changing prospects, so that they have to be really
Speaker 1: good at at you know, scouting, at coaching, at all
Speaker 1: these things. They have to hit on their free agent
Speaker 1: picks because they're in a division that's hyper competitive, right
Speaker 1: when you've got to deal with the Ravens, when you've
Speaker 1: got to deal with I know, the Bengals weren't great
Speaker 1: this year, but you know they got to deal with
Speaker 1: those teams. So they've got to figure out how to
Speaker 1: get better at this point. And you could argue that.
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin being as good at his job as he
Speaker 2: is is a negative for the Pittsburgh Steelers because it
Speaker 2: keeps them in this range where like they can't go
Speaker 2: out and get a franchise quarterback. So they're playing this
Speaker 2: game year to year.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at the names who name though he
Speaker 3: makes it, he makes the team competitive in such a
Speaker 3: nature with scraps like these are all scrap players that
Speaker 3: we were talking about. I mean Mike Williams, I mean,
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson justin fields like he's making this work and
Speaker 3: be competitive. But it's like they're just gonna constantly just
Speaker 3: sit right there in the middle of the pack and
Speaker 3: not be able to get the superstars that they won.
Speaker 3: And I don't know their cap situation now, but they're
Speaker 3: not honestly bringing in the big name free agency either.
Speaker 3: You know, it's all scrap guys. Yeah, and I mean.
Speaker 1: That that I think speaks to a front office issue
Speaker 1: more than anything else. But yeah, I mean, but you're right,
Speaker 1: But Mike Tomlin has done the most I think with
Speaker 1: the pieces that he has. They've got a very good
Speaker 1: defense and a lot of pieces on that side, and
Speaker 1: they're just sort of getting by offensively. That's the part
Speaker 1: I think it has to change. They've got to get
Speaker 1: back to being they're explosive. You know, look when they
Speaker 1: had Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell. They were
Speaker 1: truly an explosive offense. Then it's been a while since
Speaker 1: we've seen that version of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: They also hold onto their players, probably a little too long,
Speaker 2: like they're never selling Like you know, Belichick was always
Speaker 2: like a year early, then you're gonna fault, like the
Speaker 2: Steelers are like, we're riding you to the ground.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it kind of is. You know, loyalty can
Speaker 1: sometimes be a detriment. Again, I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: we always would love to see it, but we also
Speaker 1: understand it's a business. And you know, you mentioned Belichick.
Speaker 1: I know that was a Bill Walsh thing with the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Would much rather cut a guy a
Speaker 1: year too early than a year too late. And that's
Speaker 1: sort of what it is a little bit closer to
Speaker 1: where we are. The Los Angeles Chargers. They are picked
Speaker 1: twenty two, eleven and six. This past year. What went
Speaker 1: right for sure was Lad McConkie eighty two catches over
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards, seven touchdowns, wide receiver twelve.
Speaker 4: I had big hopes for Ladd McConkie.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it'd be that great, but he turned
Speaker 1: out to kind of be the only thing consistently in
Speaker 1: the passing game there. Justin Herbert had a pretty good
Speaker 1: year as well, thirty eight hundred passing yards, twenty three
Speaker 1: touchdowns just three interceptions for Herbo, also three hundred and
Speaker 1: six rushing yards.
Speaker 4: He was at QB thirteen and JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins maybe one of the big redemption rebound stories of
Speaker 1: the season. He did miss four games, but at nine
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards, nine touchdowns, one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: receiving yards, he was the RB twenty four. So I'll
Speaker 1: ask you the kwanity, Let's let's start with JK. Dobbins
Speaker 1: to sort of work backwards from here. But what we
Speaker 1: saw from Dobbins was amazing. Do you believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 3: You'll always have that injury concern on your mind, but
Speaker 3: what he did was amazing to come back from the
Speaker 3: injury that he did to even almost put up a
Speaker 3: thousand yards, And I feel like, you know, JK. Dobbins
Speaker 3: feels happy where he's at, and I think they will
Speaker 3: probably bring him back and bring another you know, running
Speaker 3: back to back them up, because I mean, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure you see in the rundown what went wrong as
Speaker 3: his backup.
Speaker 4: But I think JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins is like one of those fans see you know,
Speaker 3: you know dark throw as you throw in the middle
Speaker 3: of those rounds. Because I think people are still gonna
Speaker 3: discount him regardless to what he did this last season.
Speaker 2: I'm people, so.
Speaker 1: You're you're just killing him.
Speaker 2: I I probably will never draft JK. Dobbins a day
Speaker 2: in my life. Like I fantastic story like seeing him
Speaker 2: come on the Insiders and wearing like LT's jersey as
Speaker 2: a kid, all awesome moments. I'm rooting for him as
Speaker 2: a football fan. U given all of the injury history
Speaker 2: that he's had and all the wear and tear and
Speaker 2: stuff like, it's to me, it's too risky and like
Speaker 2: he was he he had a really good season this year.
Speaker 2: But I think it's one of those things that like
Speaker 2: when we jump under the hood a little bit more,
Speaker 2: we're like this, like his success rate was pretty low.
Speaker 2: Didn't have a thousand yards even though I know he
Speaker 2: missed time stuff like that, so not doesn't really catch
Speaker 2: the ball a ton, Like I don't know, I feel
Speaker 2: like this past year was best case scenario and I
Speaker 2: I'm probably not paying up for that.
Speaker 1: See that's the thing is that the price is probably
Speaker 1: gonna go up on JK. Dobbins, and so like it
Speaker 1: feels like it dovestails nicely into sort of what went
Speaker 1: wrong and we can kind of get them all together.
Speaker 4: Because Gus Edwards was a big disappointment.
Speaker 1: He was not healthy for long stretches, and I was
Speaker 1: a Kamani vadal guy. I thought Kamani vadall was going
Speaker 1: to work though it was gonna work his way into
Speaker 1: an actual role in this offense. Couldn't get on the
Speaker 1: field most of the time. A few times he did,
Speaker 1: didn't really see a whole lot of action. But you wonder,
Speaker 1: is this a Jim Harbaugh thing, just not wanting to
Speaker 1: lean on the rookie a whole lot and going to
Speaker 1: try and work him in again a little bit next year.
Speaker 1: I need there are a lot of things sort of
Speaker 1: playing against JK. Dobbins having another top twenty five season
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Lad McConkie, though we were all
Speaker 1: lad McConkie stands maybe some more than others. Are you
Speaker 1: willing to pay up for him, Florio, because that's you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do that next year?
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent, which this was a big win
Speaker 2: for because in the last couple of years, I've started
Speaker 2: doing way more NFL draft stuff, and McConkie was the
Speaker 2: guy that I was kind of like, I had him
Speaker 2: as my wide receiver four. I liked it more than
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe that was a little bit too high,
Speaker 2: but like, McConkie was one of my guys. So that's
Speaker 2: a win for me, it's a win for all of
Speaker 2: us who believed in him. But yeah, I firmly believe
Speaker 2: in what we saw. In fact, I think he could
Speaker 2: get a lot better because in the beginning of the
Speaker 2: year it did seem to me like they were trying
Speaker 2: not to put too much on his plate and they
Speaker 2: kind of let him run wild in the second half.
Speaker 2: So we see this sometimes with rookies. It takes them
Speaker 2: a little bit skeed going or teams just don't want
Speaker 2: to Xavier Worthy similar thing, like they didn't want to
Speaker 2: put too much on his plate right away. But as
Speaker 2: the year goes on, they builds more trust, earns more trust,
Speaker 2: and then they suddenly the offense is running through him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, lad McConkie is going to be their wide
Speaker 2: receiver one of the future. He's tied to a good offense.
Speaker 2: He's tied to a good quarterback, and he could win
Speaker 2: in every secule, win out wide, in the slot, downfield,
Speaker 2: after catch. He can do literally everything. The only concern
Speaker 2: with him I think coming out of college was he
Speaker 2: missed a lot of time. But we know as a
Speaker 2: player he can get the job done, So I'm in
Speaker 2: on him. But I also want to take a second
Speaker 2: to just point out Quinton Jonathan seven hundred yards, eight touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I think he also went right for the Chargers this year.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that right, because there were moments when
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was going right. You know, he
Speaker 1: was the beneficiary of a lot of busted coverages and
Speaker 1: turned it into touchdowns. That part was great. Late in
Speaker 1: the season, though, he kind of reverted back to his
Speaker 1: rookie year with some of the painful drops that we
Speaker 1: saw early in his I'm gonna give it incomplete. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I want to believe, I want to buy in.
Speaker 2: This is how I describe him. When he steps out
Speaker 2: on the field, he spins a wheel and it either
Speaker 2: lands on like gonna make a like a great touchdown catch,
Speaker 2: or gonna have the yips and forget to really hell
Speaker 2: hands work.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably fair. That's what that's fair for
Speaker 4: what for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, he just released his mock draft one point
Speaker 1: zero came out yesterday, and he has the Chargers taking
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at number twenty two, Matthew Golden out
Speaker 1: of Texas. Also side note to that, he's got the
Speaker 1: Steelers taking Luther Burden, a wide receiver from Missouri, at
Speaker 1: number twenty one.
Speaker 4: Bucky's got both those both those teams.
Speaker 1: Taking wide outs because you know, both those teams have solid,
Speaker 1: solid receivers, but guys who need help. You know, George
Speaker 1: Packins needs help. Lad McConkie needs help, And at least
Speaker 1: according to Bucky Brooks's mock draft, both those guys expected
Speaker 1: to get some help in the first round in this
Speaker 1: upcoming draft. Speaking of free agents, some JK. Dobbins, Josh Palmer,
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst all expected to hit the free agent markets
Speaker 1: this offseason.
Speaker 4: So as much as we talked about JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins, there's certainly a world in which he not even
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles next year. So you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens to that and how that impacts what the
Speaker 1: Chargers decided to do take a quick break come back.
Speaker 1: We got a couple more teams on our exit interviews.
Speaker 1: We'll dive into some NFC North teams coming up next
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Up next, that pick
Speaker 1: number twenty three, the Green Bay Packers. They were eleven
Speaker 1: and sixth this past year. Josh Jacobs definitely went right
Speaker 1: for them. Thirteen hundred and twenty nine rushing yards, fifteen
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, also direction to forty two receiving yards. More importantly,
Speaker 1: one receiving touchdown. Josh Jacobs finally caught a touchdown pass
Speaker 1: this year. It took, however, many seasons to do it.
Speaker 1: What in his sixth season, he finally caught a touchdown? Finally, finally, Look,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love said before the season, like we're going to
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it a point to try.
Speaker 4: To get him one. So they they did, so congratulations
Speaker 4: to him for that.
Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft fifty catches, seven hundred and seven yards, seven
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. He was a tight end. Nine should mentioned
Speaker 1: Josh Akos was the RB six. Where to start here,
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's dive into what went wrong. So
Speaker 1: it feels like a.
Speaker 4: Better side to talk about, not better, but more interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love thirty three of passing yards he was QB
Speaker 1: seventeen twenty five touchdowns, just eighty three rushing yards for
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. The wide receivers because this is I think,
Speaker 1: the thing that I really want to talk about more
Speaker 1: than anything. I mean, Florio. I know that Matt Lafleuter's
Speaker 1: whole thing was that we don't have a number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I don't want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: and don't ask me about it.
Speaker 4: The whole thing makes me naseous. Blah blah blah blah blah. Dude,
Speaker 4: the Packers need a number one wide receiver.
Speaker 2: I thought they kind of had one in Jaden Reid
Speaker 2: and I was wrong, but I yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I go back and forth on this because they have
Speaker 2: a lot of talent in that room. And if you
Speaker 2: have a quarterback, like look at the you could call
Speaker 2: a homer. But like what the Bills were able to
Speaker 2: do minus Steph Diggs this year, and just like spread
Speaker 2: the ball around made it a lot harder for defenses
Speaker 2: to kind of pick up and be like, all right,
Speaker 2: this is the guy we got to stop on this
Speaker 2: play and stuff. And when you have that approach like
Speaker 2: it kind of also takes away elite cornerbacks because who
Speaker 2: are they gonna like you could put him on anyone
Speaker 2: and you could just keep going to the other people.
Speaker 2: But I go back and forth because I think just
Speaker 2: as much as it's on the wide receivers, I think
Speaker 2: it's on Jordan Love. Like Jordan Love took a step
Speaker 2: back this year. No matter how you look at it,
Speaker 2: he was not the same guy that ended the season
Speaker 2: last year. Turnovers were an issue, stuff like that. I
Speaker 2: think they're good enough to win with the wide receivers
Speaker 2: that they have. But if you told me like it
Speaker 2: was too easy to take certain guys away and we
Speaker 2: think we need a more dominant wide receiver one, I
Speaker 2: could also get behind that. But I do think they
Speaker 2: have firmly enough talent currently in that wide receiver room
Speaker 2: where they should easily be able to win.
Speaker 1: Okay, so said Lakwan, where are we Where are you
Speaker 1: comfortable drafting Jaden Reed next year? Because we all sort
Speaker 1: of assumed that he was the guy, but late in
Speaker 1: the season he faded terribly.
Speaker 4: I mean just sort of disappeared at the end of
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 1: I'm he was the guy that we were getting maybe
Speaker 1: at the highest price point last season. This year, i mean,
Speaker 1: where are you comfortable drafting him sixth seventh round?
Speaker 4: That too late, too early?
Speaker 3: How are you feeling I'm more so comfortable drafting him
Speaker 3: as my flex like I have to have, you know,
Speaker 3: my wide receivers like two Alfa was just off the
Speaker 3: draft or where I'm comfortable with because you're going to
Speaker 3: be dealing with those ups and downs of trying to
Speaker 3: figure out where they put him in that and like
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, them having so much talent
Speaker 3: out there, you're never going to be able to pinpoint
Speaker 3: guests when to put him in. But more so, just
Speaker 3: address your expectations when it comes to Packers wide receivers,
Speaker 3: because there were a ton of moments there where I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is the game that Jayden Reid can go off
Speaker 3: because just based on the coverage that the defense was playing,
Speaker 3: based on how he was performing the week before. But
Speaker 3: then he falls off a cliff. But that's part of
Speaker 3: the price of getting him. So it's more so do
Speaker 3: not go out there draft him in the first four rounds.
Speaker 3: Don't go out there draft him in the fifth round,
Speaker 3: Like he's one of those guys that are will sit
Speaker 3: back at the six, seven, eight round that you can
Speaker 3: address your lineup and put him in where he fits in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of it.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious what everybody feels like is going
Speaker 1: to be the appropriate spot to draft him in. Knowing
Speaker 1: how I don't know what the word is, how varied
Speaker 1: the offense is, how much they spread the ball around
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, I think we're all frustrated
Speaker 1: with Christian Watson. You know, we sort of know what
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs as Dantavian Wicks shows up every once in
Speaker 1: a while. It's just really hard to pinpoint. So I'll
Speaker 1: ask them though, Florida, because we're struggling with the Packers
Speaker 1: pass catchers. Does this mean Jordan Love takes a hit
Speaker 1: in drafts then too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was brought like probably going to
Speaker 2: be the case either way. Like Jordan Love this past
Speaker 2: year didn't even throw for thirty four hundred yards. I
Speaker 2: know he missed two games due to injury, that the
Speaker 2: touchdown rate was similar, but like, I don't know. To me,
Speaker 2: I don't think Jordan Love at the end of the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, there started to be cases like
Speaker 2: this guy could break out, he could be a high
Speaker 2: end QB one. To me, I think he belongs in
Speaker 2: that low end QB one tier, like we talk about
Speaker 2: it a lot. After the top five. There's a big
Speaker 2: group of guys who are all similar. He belongs in
Speaker 2: that big group of guys. Like some people might like
Speaker 2: him more than me and push him up, somebody can
Speaker 2: like him less than me and push him down that
Speaker 2: group a little bit. But to me, he firmly belongs
Speaker 2: in that group somewhere like QB like seven to thirteen
Speaker 2: something in that range. I haven't sat down and done
Speaker 2: actual rankings yet, but like in my head that that's
Speaker 2: where I think he kind of settles in. And on
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, this stood out to me. D'antavian Wicks
Speaker 2: led them with seventy six targets. There was four different
Speaker 2: packers that had between seventy and seventy six targets, so
Speaker 2: like it was spread out evenly, and like you guys
Speaker 2: were saying on a week to week basis, it was like,
Speaker 2: good luck figuring out which one the ball's going to
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: I want to jump in with D'ontavian Wicks, like I
Speaker 3: hate how quick people are moving off of him, but
Speaker 3: yet we're still hearing Christian wattson name every single summer
Speaker 3: being a hype train, Like when you look at him
Speaker 3: play a lot of the miscues and like having his
Speaker 3: head nod around looking for the ball for Jordan Love.
Speaker 3: All can be taught. And if he goes into this
Speaker 3: offseason as a starter and not a behind guy playing
Speaker 3: with the twos, I really think that he could break out,
Speaker 3: Like this could be a breakout season, because when you
Speaker 3: look at his numbers, like he's among one of the
Speaker 3: wide receivers that has that elite separation, like he is
Speaker 3: three yards off of the defender, which is again in
Speaker 3: that tier of wide receivers that can create separation. So
Speaker 3: he's earning the target. So that's why he led the
Speaker 3: team in targets. It's just that he can't catch the ball.
Speaker 1: That's the important part.
Speaker 2: He led them in targets, but he was fifth in yards,
Speaker 2: like Christian Watson had over two hundred more yards on
Speaker 2: twenty three less targets.
Speaker 3: But him being tied eleventh in the NFL with Terry
Speaker 3: mclaurn not saying that his disconnect with his quarterback with
Speaker 3: unrealized air yards. So it's like that tells more of
Speaker 3: the story of what's going on, Like he's being targeted.
Speaker 3: He can make the big plays, it's just a matter
Speaker 3: of him knowing the plays, knowing where to be, the miscues,
Speaker 3: the mistiming. The chemistry is huge to be built there.
Speaker 3: And I think Deontay being Wicks this next season, it
Speaker 3: could be a breakout season. Man, just give him a chance.
Speaker 2: I had him on so many fantasy teams and it
Speaker 2: was it was at no point fun.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like it feels like it feels like
Speaker 1: for me, the Packers wide receivers next year are gonna
Speaker 1: have to be somebody else's problem. Like they just you know,
Speaker 1: like and yeah, yeah there are And I feel maybe
Speaker 1: this is a whole show, right, it's the guys that
Speaker 1: like we're willing to miss out on. It was just
Speaker 1: you know, if it, if it goes well, then we
Speaker 1: just talk it up like that. I don't know, I'll
Speaker 1: come up with a better name because that's just too wordy.
Speaker 1: But you know, those guys is just like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I can't do it and I wish you well and
Speaker 1: if it works out, then I'll just tip my cap
Speaker 1: and move on.
Speaker 4: Packers. Wide receivers are very much in that group for me.
Speaker 2: That's kind of how my attitude with Dobbins was from
Speaker 2: the last segment. Like, if he hits cool, I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I'm totally okay with that being on someone else's team
Speaker 2: in not mine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3: It's fun to watch him, though. It's fun to watch
Speaker 3: Jaydon Reed. I mean, he's the only one that has
Speaker 3: design plays. He's literally the only one on the offense
Speaker 3: that has design plays, and he's going to get the target.
Speaker 3: So I'm just going to keep drafting him just based
Speaker 3: on his availability and his role in the offense.
Speaker 1: Darry Landebo, although I'll say this, let's not overrate his
Speaker 1: rushing totals, right because last year eleven carries for one
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yards. This year twenty carries for one
Speaker 1: to sixty three, a grand total of three rushing touchdowns
Speaker 1: in two seasons.
Speaker 4: So like, let's not I.
Speaker 1: Know, we all like toy factor that in, it's not
Speaker 1: enough of a difference maker that it should be changing
Speaker 1: how we feel about Jayden.
Speaker 3: Reid discount debo. That's all it is. Discount D.
Speaker 1: So he's discount dary Land deebo eh three D yeah, Claron,
Speaker 1: He's like three D there it is for sure. Our
Speaker 1: last team in this edition is the Minnesota Vikings at
Speaker 1: pick number twenty four. They were fourteen and three, maybe
Speaker 1: one of the I don't say weirdest fourteen and three seasons,
Speaker 1: but like you know, for a fourteen win team, they
Speaker 1: ended up as a wild card. They had to go
Speaker 1: on the road to play. Then they're getting stomped out.
Speaker 1: But in season it was a fun run, right. Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold was amazing forty three hundred yards, thirty five touchdowns
Speaker 1: QB eight, Aaron Jones, the Packers moved on from them.
Speaker 1: He showed that he still had something left. Eleven hundred
Speaker 1: rushing yards, four hundred receiving yards RB fourteen. Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: was Justin Jefferson fifteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns, wide receiver two,
Speaker 1: you know, a gazillion points somehow, still behind Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: because Jamar Chase was just that otherworldly this year. And
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, who had a maybe a true breakout season
Speaker 1: sixty three catches, eight hundred and seventy five yards, nine touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twenty rushing yards and a rushing touchdown wide receiver twenty
Speaker 1: this year. I'm Sam Donald's an interesting case because he
Speaker 1: was hot all year long. He defied expectations. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's let's not forget that. A lot of people I know, Florida,
Speaker 1: you and I were sort of among them. We were
Speaker 1: sort of downgrading a lot of Vikings because we're like, ooh,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's the quarterback, Like I know how this goes,
Speaker 1: you know. So we were like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can take Justin Jefferson at number one. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want you know, Jordan Addison at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want TJ Hawkinson when he
Speaker 1: comes back. And a lot of us ended up looking
Speaker 1: kind of silly behind that. I don't think Sam Darnold's
Speaker 1: going to be back next year. I think the way
Speaker 1: the season ended that Week eighteen game against the Lions
Speaker 1: and then the playoff game against the Rams went about
Speaker 1: as badly as you can anticipate. They've got JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. So I mean, florio are we
Speaker 1: what do we do if the Vikings really do make
Speaker 1: the move to McCarthy. Are we drafting JJ? McCarthy. Are
Speaker 1: we still in on Justin Jefferson, like you know, early
Speaker 1: flag plan, Like, how are we treating the Vikings offense
Speaker 1: if they do make the change?
Speaker 2: This sounds crazy. I might approach it how I approached
Speaker 2: it last year, And I know, like you said, we
Speaker 2: all wore egg on our face. But like and koc
Speaker 2: is a very underrated coach. He's my pick to be
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. I think we need to start
Speaker 2: talking about him in the same regards that we do
Speaker 2: like McVeigh and Shanahan and the other offensive geniuses in
Speaker 2: this league, because he continues to get production regardless of
Speaker 2: who he has at his disposure. But it's a rookie
Speaker 2: who has Like I know, you could say, like, oh,
Speaker 2: he missed his rookie year, he was still with the team,
Speaker 2: he's learning the offense, all of that. I get it.
Speaker 2: We've still yet to see him play at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: I liked JJ as a prospect, but like there's questions
Speaker 2: there and so to me, it all depends on cost.
Speaker 2: Like I think we could look back at last season
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, we were definitely pushing Jordan Addison
Speaker 2: down too far. And if he goes in a similar range.
Speaker 2: I'll be cool drafting him, but like, am I gonna
Speaker 2: do the thing where I start pushing other wide receivers
Speaker 2: ahead of JJ? Again, maybe what I think worst case
Speaker 2: scenario is is the Vikings franchise Sam Darnold, because then
Speaker 2: you have to worry about a quarterback change happening midway
Speaker 2: in the season or late in the season, and I
Speaker 2: hate that for fantasy purposes. But yeah, the Vikings to
Speaker 2: me are very much so a team that it's gonna
Speaker 2: depend on the cost of their players, because if suddenly
Speaker 2: I have to take Jordan Addison in the sixth round,
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that. So yeah, maybe it's the
Speaker 2: same mistake as last year. But I don't know. Teams
Speaker 2: with question marks at quarterback, you guys know, like the
Speaker 2: whole offense could come crumbling down with them, So it's
Speaker 2: it's very risky.
Speaker 4: All right. Are you willing to take that risk?
Speaker 1: Lakwan? Are you willing to buy in at you know,
Speaker 1: potential higher prices for I guess say, for JJ, he's
Speaker 1: always going to be kind of highly priced.
Speaker 4: But Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkinson, are you willing to buy in.
Speaker 3: A I'm good off at TJ?
Speaker 1: Hawk.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think that's run its course. But
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison, I'm kind of interested if like Floria was saying,
Speaker 3: the price is right, Like the price has to be
Speaker 3: right based on how I'm building my roster. I think
Speaker 3: JJ obviously is Justin Jefferson is going to be a
Speaker 3: top three pick. But I think we go with the
Speaker 3: same approach to be safe, because honestly, last year I
Speaker 3: went Jamar Chase in one league instead of Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 3: and that kind of worked out, you know, Like it's
Speaker 3: not like I went Christian McCaffrey and then you know,
Speaker 3: got bailed out. You know, I was going to aj
Speaker 3: over him all year, all summer, but that like I
Speaker 3: still had him in the top five picks. I still
Speaker 3: have him in the top three picks. But if you
Speaker 3: ask me if certain things change, you know, right now
Speaker 3: my mock, I got you know, Pooku Nakula where JJ
Speaker 3: will go. So it's like, I feel like, if Cooper
Speaker 3: cups on the leave, why can't we see a wide
Speaker 3: receiver wearing a Rams jersey see one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: five targets and if you get pooka one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty targets one hundred and forty five targets. This is
Speaker 3: going to be elevated to maybe he be the next,
Speaker 3: you know, top three picks in drafts. But once we
Speaker 3: get closer to the season, I think we'll have all
Speaker 3: our answers, you know, answered, and feel a little bit
Speaker 3: more comfortable drafting Justin Jefferson at the right price in
Speaker 3: those early in that early round.
Speaker 1: So one thing that I took out of that, you
Speaker 1: mentioned tjh So you're just out on TJ. Hawkinson.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 3: I have other tight ends that are on my radar
Speaker 3: that I think will outperform him, and right now, a
Speaker 3: couple guys like Tucker Craft, I think we get an
Speaker 3: upgraded on him. I mean, I'm backing on John new
Speaker 3: Smith if he's going to be performing and waiting, I
Speaker 3: just think there's other options now when we're getting guys
Speaker 3: like Brock Bauers and Trade McBride, younger guys. So it's
Speaker 3: like he's he's falling more down on my radar. Like
Speaker 3: I'm pretty much good off of that situation.
Speaker 2: I love that because it's gonna make hacketson go cheaper
Speaker 2: and and he's gonna be coming a year removed, He's
Speaker 2: not coming back mid season off the ACL. He could
Speaker 2: be the old Hawkinson again. So he's in that JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins bag that we just had the last year. If
Speaker 3: he goes off, man, I'm good, I'm okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm more. I think I'm definitely more in on him
Speaker 2: than than you are.
Speaker 1: L Q. I'm in on him, totaling more than Tucker Craft.
Speaker 1: We just had a whole long conversation about how like
Speaker 1: the Packers pass catchers are sort of such a such
Speaker 1: a mess. I probably said Tucker Craft more than a
Speaker 1: ton of other names on Fantasy Live this past year, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I was big on Tucker Craft. But even then, like
Speaker 1: in a in a world where they have like five
Speaker 1: guys that can go to it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: pick him out from week to week.
Speaker 3: I just think that Christian Watson project is over, Like
Speaker 3: I think gets honestly over with that and that whole experience,
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot more things open up.
Speaker 3: So there's other tight ends that you know that might
Speaker 3: fall to similar situations of a bigger role. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: John Smith just was a top five you know, like
Speaker 3: situational matters and coaching matters as well, and just I
Speaker 3: just feel as though, you know, there's other guys that
Speaker 3: I'd rather have than a TJ.
Speaker 4: Hockinson.
Speaker 1: I love that John new Smith has colored your whole
Speaker 1: way of thinking. Pun definitely intended. Yes, I think it's
Speaker 1: funny some of the free agents that the Vikings have,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Aaron Jones, Cam Akers again Donald, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe franchise tag is what happens there. I would like
Speaker 1: to think they bring back Aaron Jones after what he did.
Speaker 4: This past year. Cam Akers, who knows.
Speaker 1: He's been something of a football vagabond the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. So we'll see what happens with him there.
Speaker 1: So next week we'll get back into it. It picks
Speaker 1: number twenty five through twenty eight. In fact that next
Speaker 1: week we'll finish it out twenty five through twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and then we'll have twenty nine through thirty two. Coming up
Speaker 1: next Thursday, we will be through our our fantasy exit interviews,
Speaker 1: even before the Super Bowl actually happens. We're coming up
Speaker 1: this week, We've got the Pro Bowl games. Take a
Speaker 1: quick break, come back and don into some fun things
Speaker 1: about that. That's next on the NFL Fantasy football show.
Speaker 1: So this weekend is the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Look, it has evolved over the years now has turned
Speaker 1: into the Pro Bowl games where they have the skills competition,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of fun. I would say that
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't know what to think
Speaker 1: about the skills competition in the first year I watch it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is actually pretty cool. And now
Speaker 1: they play the flag football game, which people had accused
Speaker 1: it of becoming a flag football game over the past
Speaker 1: few years. So I would say this, I mean, how
Speaker 1: do we feel this is year three of this new format,
Speaker 1: right as opposed to them just showing up doing the
Speaker 1: media interviews and then playing a game where, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: guys are half assing it most of the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: just start with you with Florio, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the new format?
Speaker 2: I think it's so much better. I am someone who
Speaker 2: goes on record as saying and not just in the NFL,
Speaker 2: an NBA, MLB, I'm not an all Star game kind
Speaker 2: of person. I was when I was a kid, especially
Speaker 2: in like baseball, where like you really wouldn't get to
Speaker 2: see these guys compete against one another, but we see
Speaker 2: it all the time now and even more so, like
Speaker 2: like in football, I get it. These guys don't want
Speaker 2: to go give it. They're all and get hurt, Like
Speaker 2: there's seasons over for some of these guys. They haven't
Speaker 2: played actual football in a month, like I get it.
Speaker 2: So this new format is way better and the best part,
Speaker 2: in my opinion of all All Star games are the
Speaker 2: skills challenges. Like I love the three point contest. The
Speaker 2: dunk contest is what it is nowadays, but as a
Speaker 2: kid I loved it growing up. The skills challenge there
Speaker 2: home run derby is always the best part of the
Speaker 2: MLB All Star weekend, and for me with the NFL
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, the best part is watching these super athletes
Speaker 2: get to do super athletic things that we don't normally
Speaker 2: get to. Like I seventeen times a year I could
Speaker 2: watch Jamar Chase do amazing things on the football field.
Speaker 2: There's only one day a year I get to watch
Speaker 2: and play dodgeball, you know, like I get excited for that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I'm guessing you are thumbs up
Speaker 1: on this new format.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's way better and it's more entertaining. It's engaging
Speaker 3: as well. And like you get to see your favorite
Speaker 3: players have fun, you know, joke with each other, interact
Speaker 3: with each other. Like that's always been the cool part
Speaker 3: for me. And like like four years in, like dodgeball
Speaker 3: is my favorite thing to play, and like, I was
Speaker 3: really surprised that I found out today actually that it's
Speaker 3: banded in most public schools. Like that was where I
Speaker 3: go too, man, Like when did that happen?
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? So? I mean the reason
Speaker 1: is because we got to wait for you know, bigger
Speaker 1: kids to bully smaller kids. And really that's really what
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, just like the bigger kids would
Speaker 1: take the ball and just beat up on the smaller
Speaker 1: kids with it, and it's like, baby.
Speaker 3: That's always so fun. But it's one of those events
Speaker 3: that you know, the Pro Bowl has become one of
Speaker 3: those things that we're just like all right, we're but
Speaker 3: this revamp is definitely better. I'm definitely gonna be watching it,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking for the trivia, the big spike, like
Speaker 3: all the little obstacle games that they have, you know,
Speaker 3: and see some of these players just you know, go
Speaker 3: out and just be athletic.
Speaker 1: To your point, Florio, I have increasingly become of the
Speaker 1: opinion that All Star Games are of a past era.
Speaker 1: It was from a time where you couldn't see all
Speaker 1: the guys. Like now, between the Internet and streaming services
Speaker 1: and all these different ways to watch all the games,
Speaker 1: you can watch every single one of these athletes in
Speaker 1: pretty much every sport play on any given night.
Speaker 4: Right, It's not like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, certainly when I was a kid, probably when you
Speaker 1: guys were kids, where it's like, hey, man, bulls are
Speaker 1: coming to town, Like this is my only chance to
Speaker 1: see Michael Jordan besides the All Star Game, you know,
Speaker 1: or whatever baseball player, whatever, you know, football player coming
Speaker 1: to town, Like this is the only chance to really
Speaker 1: see them. Now we can watch them anytime, and so
Speaker 1: I think that takes a lot of the thrill out
Speaker 1: of the All Star Game. Also because book free agency
Speaker 1: is great for players and I'm all for it, but
Speaker 1: because now we see guys play together now, right, Like
Speaker 1: in an All Star Game, it would have been amazing
Speaker 1: to watch Steph Curry and Kevin Durance and Klay Thompson
Speaker 1: play on the same team, but like now we've seen
Speaker 1: it for real. Well yeah, you know, because because that
Speaker 1: sort of thing happens now, so like all Star games
Speaker 1: just have lost I think their appeal because all the
Speaker 1: things that made All Star games great we now just
Speaker 1: get every day.
Speaker 4: So it's just not special.
Speaker 2: The last it wasn't an All Star game, but it
Speaker 2: was an exhibition game. You could say. The last time
Speaker 2: I think the whole world kind of paused or like
Speaker 2: we need to see these two athletes face off was
Speaker 2: when Otani faced Trout in the World Baseball Classes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it really was.
Speaker 2: I think outside of that, we've kind of, like I said,
Speaker 2: we've seen it all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even even the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Like it's cool, like we watched the Olympics, especially for
Speaker 1: basketball because you know, we have patriotic pride, we want
Speaker 1: the US to win, and yeah, it was cool watch
Speaker 1: seeing Lebron and Steph and Katie and all these guys
Speaker 1: win a gold medal. But it's not because we're like,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we'll never see something like this again.
Speaker 4: Like we'll see it again, we'll see it in the
Speaker 4: NBA at some point.
Speaker 2: It was because we might not see those guys play
Speaker 2: together again.
Speaker 1: True, that was, but I mean, we will see super
Speaker 1: teams come together in the NBA. We will see you
Speaker 1: know super team, you know, like the Dodgers are building
Speaker 1: a death star out here in Los Angeles. The NFL
Speaker 1: has sort of prevented it a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 1: even then, Hey, look, man, are I guarantee you that
Speaker 1: like eighty percent of our pitching staff will be on
Speaker 1: the injured list by August?
Speaker 4: Right, so like we we have to keep stockpiling.
Speaker 2: It's the rest of Baseball's fault for not spending money.
Speaker 2: It's not as fault, but it's equally as annoying.
Speaker 1: Like blame.
Speaker 4: Like I know Steve Cohen's trying to spend for the Mets,
Speaker 4: but all.
Speaker 1: The rest of you teams that are complaining, like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you're owned by billionaires too.
Speaker 4: You could do this if you wanted to.
Speaker 2: The Pirates are offering more to an eleven year old
Speaker 2: for a bit. They have a single free agent all
Speaker 2: year long, so.
Speaker 1: They offered that kid nothing of monetary value. By the way,
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you canna have some tickets to our
Speaker 1: terrible team for the next thirty years.
Speaker 2: He lives on the West coast.
Speaker 1: Right, you can sit next to Little Done in the
Speaker 1: press box, like nothing of monetary value. And then they
Speaker 1: were shocked when he turned them down. Wow, didn't he
Speaker 1: for this to go this way? Let's get back on
Speaker 1: track as we wrap this thing up. If you guys
Speaker 1: had to compete in one of these skills challenges, the
Speaker 1: fact that you guys both mentioned dodgeball, I assume that's
Speaker 1: the one you would prefer to be in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, like a stack dodgeball, Like, I'm down
Speaker 3: to bring dodgeball back, man, Like, come on, there's no
Speaker 3: way you can abandon in schools Like I want my
Speaker 3: kids to go out there and compete too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, it's all fun and games until it's Josh Allen
Speaker 1: firing that ball at Yeah, I'll be honored to get
Speaker 1: blasted in the face dodge Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 1: It's all great until like they asked you how I felt,
Speaker 1: and you're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think to come on my own with any
Speaker 2: normal person. But yeah, you start putting quarterbacks out there,
Speaker 2: and that's that's what it gets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're probably gonna beaming it.
Speaker 1: Oh man. So anyway, that should be a lot of
Speaker 1: fun coming up this weekend.
Speaker 4: We can check that out.
Speaker 2: Well it's yours, Marcus, you know what, So.
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking through all the things I would
Speaker 1: say the relay race, but I would get smoked in that.
Speaker 1: But it would be fun just to like to see
Speaker 1: like how fast these guys are.
Speaker 2: To be fair, we would all get smoked in that.
Speaker 3: Marcus, you look like you're fast. Used to be fast
Speaker 3: back in the day now used.
Speaker 1: To be like that was a long time ago. Like
Speaker 1: my fears. I would like, you know, tear an achilles
Speaker 1: or something like that, trying to run the race and
Speaker 1: they have to they have to just roll me off
Speaker 1: the course or something like that. But it would be
Speaker 1: fun to like see how fast these guys are in
Speaker 1: real life, you know, like when they're all running against
Speaker 1: each other, they all look fast, but like when they're
Speaker 1: running against I want to see them run against a
Speaker 1: normal person, right, and like like, oh, you know, Jamark
Speaker 1: Chase is really fast, right, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: That's what I think we need once a year just
Speaker 2: to remind all of these like people who watch it
Speaker 2: home and say, like I could do that because I
Speaker 2: play well in the rec league. Like no, no, no, need
Speaker 2: to show these guys against regular people so you realize
Speaker 2: how much better of an athlete they are.
Speaker 4: Do either of you remember the show pros Versus Joe's.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it needs to come back immediately.
Speaker 1: Just just so that some of these people can be
Speaker 1: used as a warning to others. That's it. Just like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: so we have that internet debate about could you gain
Speaker 1: five yards in an NFL game, that more people will
Speaker 1: be like, na, man, I can't be done with it.
Speaker 4: So so there.
Speaker 3: I think I can get one yard. I can get
Speaker 3: a first down. I can get a first down. I
Speaker 3: know I can because I would literally just sprint as
Speaker 3: fast as I jump. You get a first down, I
Speaker 3: can get it first down. If it's four from one,
Speaker 3: I will sprint as fast as I can just jump
Speaker 3: in the air.
Speaker 2: You know, Josh Allen couldn't get one or quote unquote
Speaker 2: couldn't get one the other day. He's six ' five
Speaker 2: and a world class athlete.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to because every time this conversation
Speaker 1: comes up. I blought a clip from the old novel
Speaker 1: paper Lion. It was a book written a long time ago,
Speaker 1: back in the sixties about a reporter who got to
Speaker 1: go to camp with the Lions and they let him
Speaker 1: take snaps and everything as a quarterback. And he writes
Speaker 1: about the experience. And I was like every time this
Speaker 1: conversation comes up, I'm like, not enough people have read
Speaker 1: Paper Lion and it shows. And I always put a
Speaker 1: clip of him taking a snap and basically how like
Speaker 1: he feels the ball in his hands, he hears some
Speaker 1: noise and next thing he knows, he's on the ground. Like,
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I'm going to send you that
Speaker 1: clip so you can think about what you just said
Speaker 1: and we can we can revisit this at a later time.
Speaker 1: There you go. That'll do it. We're gonna make mquan
Speaker 1: think about what he said and then we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it next week. That'll do it.
Speaker 3: Send me to rams Scamp. Send me to Rams Camp
Speaker 3: and we'll see.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I would pay money, but you'd have they
Speaker 2: go out there with the blonde.
Speaker 4: Hair, with the pads, and I pay so much money
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 2: Jared versusn't letting you run by him?
Speaker 4: Man, you got health insurance, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Make sure you tell your kids you love them and
Speaker 2: stuff that day because their dad is not going to
Speaker 2: be the same man coming back.
Speaker 1: I bear no responsibility for what happens then. So I
Speaker 1: got the heart that I always had, the heart I'm
Speaker 1: not questioning that. Yeah, it's not that. It's just the
Speaker 1: strength and stamina and physical ability. Heart's one thing a
Speaker 1: lot of folks got heart.
Speaker 4: Heart doesn't get first downs.
Speaker 1: A right.
Speaker 4: There you go. That's that's enough of that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll wrap it up. We'll come back to
Speaker 1: you next week. That'll do it for this edition of
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, save and healthy,
Speaker 1: do good and live well, enjoy the Pro Bowl games, everybody.
Speaker 1: I will talk to you again next week. Don't Bob,
Speaker 1: don't know