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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, January thirtieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're available

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Speaker 1: to take over as a play caller. It's me and

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Speaker 1: your man named G Marcus Green joyed by Michael I

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Speaker 1: have Florio and Lakwan Jones. So Florio several days removed.

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Speaker 1: Are we feeling any better? How are we feeling about

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Speaker 1: what happened?

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Speaker 2: You guys saw the text I sent for the hour

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Speaker 2: before we started recording. It's gotten worse. It's gotten worse

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Speaker 2: because I also, like you said the other day, Marcus,

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Speaker 2: I enjoy my job here, but in livetime, I kept

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Speaker 2: feeling like a lot of the spots were questionable, not

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Speaker 2: just on that one play. And I'll just say there's

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Speaker 2: stuff going around the internet that makes me feel a

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Speaker 2: little bit more justified. So yeah, not not great. This

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Speaker 2: is gonna be one that takes a long time to

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Speaker 2: the past. I've been like, look, the Chiefs have just

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Speaker 2: been the better team. I don't feel that way this

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Speaker 2: time around.

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Speaker 3: Is this a thing that you're probably not going to

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Speaker 3: watch the super Bowl? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is it that bad? Well, if I didn't have this job, maybe,

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Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm also like my super Bowl

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Speaker 2: wish though, would be like, let Kendrick play as long

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Speaker 2: as he wants, Like that's my let him play every

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Speaker 2: album start to finish.

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Speaker 4: I I don't care. So it's funny you say that.

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Speaker 1: So I've been lucky enough to be on our super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Today show, which runs on digital. It's been me

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Claybon in the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: one thing they have. One of the little bits that

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Speaker 1: we do every year is trying to guess the set

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Speaker 1: list for the halftime artist. So like two years ago

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Speaker 1: when it was Rihanna, I think we went over ten.

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Speaker 1: I don't think she played songs that we listed. I

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Speaker 1: think last year we might have gotten a couple of them.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious because like I feel like with Kendrick,

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Speaker 1: there's a very narrow amount of songs that you can

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Speaker 1: that he can play for a super Bowl audience. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I feel like Patrick

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Speaker 2: Hits this shear Ron. He's one hundred percent not gonna

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Speaker 2: do the actual verses to not like us.

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Speaker 1: Right, like, oh what hm man, that's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: big you know what more than who wins the game.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be the biggest mystery of Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: He's clearly doing that. But like, is he really gonna

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Speaker 2: say all this stuff, yes, I'm here?

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Speaker 4: Does he have to?

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Speaker 1: Does he just does he just cut the music and

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Speaker 1: let the audience just scream it out loud and then

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Speaker 1: that way he is.

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Speaker 4: Absolved from any responsibility.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's literally the song that's playing in his

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Speaker 2: ad for the Super Bowl, so we're getting the chorus

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Speaker 2: and we know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, not much news happening, at least, none of

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Speaker 1: any real fantasy relevance, so not much dud to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We are continuing along with our exit interviews that we've

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Speaker 1: got picks twenty one through twenty four and a little

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Speaker 1: bit of Pro Bowl fund since that is coming up

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Speaker 1: this week. The Pro Bowl Games, which I guess I

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Speaker 1: think that's the official name now right, it's the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl Games, because you got the skills competition, you've got

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Speaker 1: the flag football game, so that's what it is. We'll

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of fun with that at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. But let's get going on our

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Speaker 1: exit interviews. Pick number twenty one in this draft belongs

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Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They went ten and seven this

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Speaker 1: past year. What went right?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Gee, Harris question Mark had over one thousand rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns, two hundred and eighty three receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: He was the RB twenty two. I don't know, la Quan.

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Speaker 1: I just felt like the Pittsburgh backfield situation in general

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Speaker 4: What did you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of ups and downs. Man,

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Speaker 3: there just wasn't enough fantasy output for me to fill

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Speaker 3: hunptable having Jalen Moore or Najie Harrison the starting lineup,

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Speaker 3: I mean, running back twenty two is kind of higher

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Speaker 3: than what expected. I would have thought he finished outside

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Speaker 3: unfortunate that we cannot get a Najie Harris of you know,

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Speaker 3: supposed to be one of the top top backs, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it just has not worked out to be

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Speaker 3: that way. So I'm not really excited for him, you know,

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Speaker 3: moving on to whatever journey he goes on after the

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Speaker 3: you know, it's just unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I remember taking that rookie season with a huge not

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Speaker 1: just a grain of salt, but like with a whole

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Speaker 1: salt shaker, because he had what one hundred targets in

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Speaker 1: that first season, ninety four targets, seventy four catches. That

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Speaker 1: a ton of panic targets. And I felt like he

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Speaker 1: was going to struggle to to duplicate that. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I'm looking at it now with the

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Speaker 1: seventy four catches, four hundred and sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: Yards like that was it. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So that part of it, I felt like he wasn't

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Speaker 1: the rushing numbers would be better. He had twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: since then. That is the part to me that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit disappointing in this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: His efficiency has been better, though, he just has less touches,

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Speaker 2: like because Jalen Warren has come in and kind of

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Speaker 2: he is who he is at this point.

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Speaker 4: But who is he?

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Speaker 2: He's a thousand yard runner who isn't going to give

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Speaker 2: you much as a pass catcher. And you know what

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Speaker 2: he is. He is a week to week RB three

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Speaker 2: that will finish the year as an RB two. That's

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Speaker 2: what he's been for three years in a row. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I know, we like saying a

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Speaker 1: thousand yard rusher. It's like a nice round number and

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Speaker 1: a nice benchmark. But as the NFL keeps adding games

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Speaker 1: to the schedule, it becomes less and less impressive. Right

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Speaker 1: Like when they played a twelve game schedule, one thousand

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Speaker 1: have to average eighty three yards a game. Then it's

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Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen games that then you have to average like

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Speaker 4: Less than that.

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Speaker 1: When they eventually go to eighteen games, a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: that's not great. It's a knee jerk reaction that we

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Speaker 1: all have. At some point, we got to change our mindset,

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Speaker 1: like a thousand yard season is like eh, in.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen games, like a thousand becomes like twelve hundred yards

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Speaker 2: to me, Like, yeah, that would be the new I

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Speaker 2: also do think, though, that Nase is kind of a

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Speaker 2: victim of the time he played in, Like if naj

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Speaker 2: Harris played ten or fifteen years ago, we're probably viewing

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Speaker 2: him very differently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. I do think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Jaalen Warren. He was sort of one of

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Speaker 1: the things that went wrong, partially because of injury. I

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Speaker 1: just wasn't on the field a lot of five hundred

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Speaker 1: He was the RB thirty seven. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: sort of went wrong was George Pickens. He had moments

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Speaker 1: three receiving touchdowns, was wide receiver thirty nine. So Flooryal,

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Speaker 1: I had a thought about George Pickens. I know you

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Speaker 1: watch Severance, o'kwan. I don't know if you watched Severance

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Speaker 4: I have not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's the best show on TV.

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Speaker 4: It's great. It's great.

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Speaker 1: So I had a thought about George Pickens that maybe

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Speaker 1: sort of went nuts, was because somehow his inny got

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Speaker 1: out and was just confused about this situation he was in. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're like those moments when the snap happens and he

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Speaker 1: immediately starts fighting or starts pushing. So it's just like

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Speaker 1: you just were thrown into a situation and you don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is, so you just gotta fight somebody.

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Speaker 1: That was my only Yeah, Like that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: That that was my thought about George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: Like when the ref blows the whistle pre snap, that's

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Speaker 2: like his elevator beep and he just like yeah, and which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, spoiler alert, Lakwan covered ears there's no

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Speaker 2: beat when Helly gets in the elevator and the less

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Speaker 2: I'm just pointing that out. What Yeah, that I've I've

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Speaker 2: done a lot of severance rabbit holes a couple of days. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I got to get on the show severnth and shrinking

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Speaker 2: my opinion too. Best news shows on and they're both apples,

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Speaker 2: so it's worth it. Yeah, I think George Pickens, I

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Speaker 2: think it's hard to put him in what went wrong

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Speaker 2: because his numbers don't look as great because he missed

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Speaker 2: talking about him having close to a career high in yards.

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Speaker 2: The touchdown number was really low, and that's where I

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Speaker 2: think he disappointed. But like next year, if I think

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Speaker 2: George Pickens goes as probably a wide receiver three, I

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Speaker 2: think it's a fair price to pay for him because

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Speaker 2: the upside is really high. We know what he can do.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, I love your theory on him being

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Speaker 2: in a severance character because literally when he's out there,

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Speaker 2: he's even gonna make a highlight worthy play or he's

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Speaker 2: gonna fight someone, And you just kind of gotta pick

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Speaker 2: your poison on that.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like you sort of take the good with the bad,

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Speaker 1: at least for now. And I'm curious what happens. You know,

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, they got a lot of free agents

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Speaker 1: they gotta deal with. You mentioned Najee Harris, LaQuan, Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Jalen Warren, Mike Williams all set to his

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Speaker 1: free agency. This team really due for a major makeover

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Speaker 1: at some point. They are they're sort of living I

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Speaker 1: keep talking about this football purgatory that they are living

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Speaker 1: in right where they are good enough to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk a lot about Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 1: his streak of never having a losing season, but they're

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Speaker 1: not good of Like nobody ever looks at the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and thinks that they are a true contender to win

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl right now, and they're not getting high

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Speaker 1: enough draft picks where they can get some of those

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Speaker 1: game changing prospects, so that they have to be really

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Speaker 1: good at at you know, scouting, at coaching, at all

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Speaker 1: these things. They have to hit on their free agent

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Speaker 1: picks because they're in a division that's hyper competitive, right

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Speaker 1: when you've got to deal with the Ravens, when you've

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Speaker 1: got to deal with I know, the Bengals weren't great

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Speaker 1: get better at this point. And you could argue that.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin being as good at his job as he

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Speaker 2: is is a negative for the Pittsburgh Steelers because it

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Speaker 3: You'll always have that injury concern on your mind, but

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Speaker 4: But I think JK.

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Speaker 2: I'm people, so.

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Speaker 2: I I probably will never draft JK. Dobbins a day

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Speaker 4: Because Gus Edwards was a big disappointment.

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Speaker 1: lad McConkie stands maybe some more than others. Are you

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Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent, which this was a big win

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Speaker 2: So we see this sometimes with rookies. It takes them

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Speaker 2: So yeah, lad McConkie is going to be their wide

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Speaker 2: He's tied to a good quarterback, and he could win

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that right, because there were moments when

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Speaker 2: This is how I describe him. When he steps out

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably fair. That's what that's fair for

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, he just released his mock draft one point

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Speaker 4: Bucky's got both those both those teams.

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Speaker 1: Taking wide outs because you know, both those teams have solid,

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Speaker 1: according to Bucky Brooks's mock draft, both those guys expected

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Speaker 1: We got a couple more teams on our exit interviews.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into some NFC North teams coming up next

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Speaker 1: number twenty three, the Green Bay Packers. They were eleven

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Speaker 1: and sixth this past year. Josh Jacobs definitely went right

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Speaker 4: To get him one. So they they did, so congratulations

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Speaker 1: Tucker Kraft fifty catches, seven hundred and seven yards, seven

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Speaker 1: Josh Akos was the RB six. Where to start here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, let's dive into what went wrong. So

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Speaker 4: Better side to talk about, not better, but more interesting.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love thirty three of passing yards he was QB

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Speaker 1: the thing that I really want to talk about more

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Speaker 4: The whole thing makes me naseous. Blah blah blah blah blah. Dude,

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Speaker 2: I thought they kind of had one in Jaden Reid

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Speaker 2: I go back and forth on this because they have

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Speaker 2: and you could just keep going to the other people.

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Speaker 2: But I go back and forth because I think just

437
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: as much as it's on the wide receivers, I think

438
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: it's on Jordan Love. Like Jordan Love took a step

439
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: back this year. No matter how you look at it,

440
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: he was not the same guy that ended the season

441
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 2: last year. Turnovers were an issue, stuff like that. I

442
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: think they're good enough to win with the wide receivers

443
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: that they have. But if you told me like it

444
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: was too easy to take certain guys away and we

445
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: think we need a more dominant wide receiver one, I

446
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: could also get behind that. But I do think they

447
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: have firmly enough talent currently in that wide receiver room

448
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: where they should easily be able to win.

449
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Speaker 1: Okay, so said Lakwan, where are we Where are you

450
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Speaker 1: comfortable drafting Jaden Reed next year? Because we all sort

451
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: of assumed that he was the guy, but late in

452
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: the season he faded terribly.

453
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Speaker 4: I mean just sort of disappeared at the end of

454
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Speaker 4: the year.

455
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Speaker 1: I'm he was the guy that we were getting maybe

456
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Speaker 1: at the highest price point last season. This year, i mean,

457
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Speaker 1: where are you comfortable drafting him sixth seventh round?

458
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Speaker 4: That too late, too early?

459
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Speaker 3: How are you feeling I'm more so comfortable drafting him

460
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Speaker 3: as my flex like I have to have, you know,

461
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: my wide receivers like two Alfa was just off the

462
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Speaker 3: draft or where I'm comfortable with because you're going to

463
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Speaker 3: be dealing with those ups and downs of trying to

464
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Speaker 3: figure out where they put him in that and like

465
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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, them having so much talent

466
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Speaker 3: out there, you're never going to be able to pinpoint

467
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: guests when to put him in. But more so, just

468
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Speaker 3: address your expectations when it comes to Packers wide receivers,

469
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Speaker 3: because there were a ton of moments there where I'm like,

470
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Speaker 3: this is the game that Jayden Reid can go off

471
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Speaker 3: because just based on the coverage that the defense was playing,

472
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Speaker 3: based on how he was performing the week before. But

473
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 3: then he falls off a cliff. But that's part of

474
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Speaker 3: the price of getting him. So it's more so do

475
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Speaker 3: not go out there draft him in the first four rounds.

476
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Speaker 3: Don't go out there draft him in the fifth round,

477
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Speaker 3: Like he's one of those guys that are will sit

478
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Speaker 3: back at the six, seven, eight round that you can

479
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Speaker 3: address your lineup and put him in where he fits in.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of it.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious what everybody feels like is going

482
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Speaker 1: to be the appropriate spot to draft him in. Knowing

483
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: how I don't know what the word is, how varied

484
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: the offense is, how much they spread the ball around

485
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, I think we're all frustrated

486
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Speaker 1: with Christian Watson. You know, we sort of know what

487
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs as Dantavian Wicks shows up every once in

488
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: a while. It's just really hard to pinpoint. So I'll

489
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Speaker 1: ask them though, Florida, because we're struggling with the Packers

490
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Speaker 1: pass catchers. Does this mean Jordan Love takes a hit

491
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Speaker 1: in drafts then too?

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was brought like probably going to

493
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Speaker 2: be the case either way. Like Jordan Love this past

494
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: year didn't even throw for thirty four hundred yards. I

495
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: know he missed two games due to injury, that the

496
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: touchdown rate was similar, but like, I don't know. To me,

497
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Speaker 2: I don't think Jordan Love at the end of the

498
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, there started to be cases like

499
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Speaker 2: this guy could break out, he could be a high

500
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Speaker 2: end QB one. To me, I think he belongs in

501
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Speaker 2: that low end QB one tier, like we talk about

502
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 2: it a lot. After the top five. There's a big

503
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: group of guys who are all similar. He belongs in

504
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: that big group of guys. Like some people might like

505
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: him more than me and push him up, somebody can

506
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: like him less than me and push him down that

507
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: group a little bit. But to me, he firmly belongs

508
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: in that group somewhere like QB like seven to thirteen

509
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: something in that range. I haven't sat down and done

510
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: actual rankings yet, but like in my head that that's

511
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: where I think he kind of settles in. And on

512
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, this stood out to me. D'antavian Wicks

513
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: led them with seventy six targets. There was four different

514
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: packers that had between seventy and seventy six targets, so

515
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: like it was spread out evenly, and like you guys

516
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: were saying on a week to week basis, it was like,

517
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: good luck figuring out which one the ball's going to

518
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: this week.

519
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: I want to jump in with D'ontavian Wicks, like I

520
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: hate how quick people are moving off of him, but

521
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: yet we're still hearing Christian wattson name every single summer

522
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: being a hype train, Like when you look at him

523
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 3: play a lot of the miscues and like having his

524
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: head nod around looking for the ball for Jordan Love.

525
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: All can be taught. And if he goes into this

526
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: offseason as a starter and not a behind guy playing

527
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: with the twos, I really think that he could break out,

528
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 3: Like this could be a breakout season, because when you

529
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: look at his numbers, like he's among one of the

530
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: wide receivers that has that elite separation, like he is

531
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: three yards off of the defender, which is again in

532
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 3: that tier of wide receivers that can create separation. So

533
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: he's earning the target. So that's why he led the

534
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: team in targets. It's just that he can't catch the ball.

535
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: That's the important part.

536
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: He led them in targets, but he was fifth in yards,

537
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: like Christian Watson had over two hundred more yards on

538
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: twenty three less targets.

539
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 3: But him being tied eleventh in the NFL with Terry

540
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: mclaurn not saying that his disconnect with his quarterback with

541
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: unrealized air yards. So it's like that tells more of

542
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: the story of what's going on, Like he's being targeted.

543
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: He can make the big plays, it's just a matter

544
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: of him knowing the plays, knowing where to be, the miscues,

545
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: the mistiming. The chemistry is huge to be built there.

546
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: And I think Deontay being Wicks this next season, it

547
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: could be a breakout season. Man, just give him a chance.

548
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: I had him on so many fantasy teams and it

549
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: was it was at no point fun.

550
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like it feels like it feels like

551
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: for me, the Packers wide receivers next year are gonna

552
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: have to be somebody else's problem. Like they just you know,

553
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: like and yeah, yeah there are And I feel maybe

554
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: this is a whole show, right, it's the guys that

555
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: like we're willing to miss out on. It was just

556
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, if it, if it goes well, then we

557
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: just talk it up like that. I don't know, I'll

558
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: come up with a better name because that's just too wordy.

559
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: But you know, those guys is just like, hey man,

560
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: I can't do it and I wish you well and

561
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: if it works out, then I'll just tip my cap

562
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: and move on.

563
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: Packers. Wide receivers are very much in that group for me.

564
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: That's kind of how my attitude with Dobbins was from

565
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: the last segment. Like, if he hits cool, I'm cool.

566
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm totally okay with that being on someone else's team

567
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: in not mine.

568
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine.

569
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: It's fun to watch him, though. It's fun to watch

570
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: Jaydon Reed. I mean, he's the only one that has

571
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: design plays. He's literally the only one on the offense

572
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: that has design plays, and he's going to get the target.

573
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: So I'm just going to keep drafting him just based

574
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: on his availability and his role in the offense.

575
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: Darry Landebo, although I'll say this, let's not overrate his

576
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: rushing totals, right because last year eleven carries for one

577
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yards. This year twenty carries for one

578
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: to sixty three, a grand total of three rushing touchdowns

579
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: in two seasons.

580
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: So like, let's not I.

581
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Know, we all like toy factor that in, it's not

582
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: enough of a difference maker that it should be changing

583
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: how we feel about Jayden.

584
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 3: Reid discount debo. That's all it is. Discount D.

585
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: So he's discount dary Land deebo eh three D yeah, Claron,

586
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: He's like three D there it is for sure. Our

587
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: last team in this edition is the Minnesota Vikings at

588
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: pick number twenty four. They were fourteen and three, maybe

589
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: one of the I don't say weirdest fourteen and three seasons,

590
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: but like you know, for a fourteen win team, they

591
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: ended up as a wild card. They had to go

592
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: on the road to play. Then they're getting stomped out.

593
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: But in season it was a fun run, right. Sam

594
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Darnold was amazing forty three hundred yards, thirty five touchdowns

595
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: QB eight, Aaron Jones, the Packers moved on from them.

596
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: He showed that he still had something left. Eleven hundred

597
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: rushing yards, four hundred receiving yards RB fourteen. Justin Jefferson

598
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: was Justin Jefferson fifteen hundred yards, ten touchdowns, wide receiver two,

599
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, a gazillion points somehow, still behind Jamar Chase

600
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: because Jamar Chase was just that otherworldly this year. And

601
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, who had a maybe a true breakout season

602
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: sixty three catches, eight hundred and seventy five yards, nine touchdowns,

603
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: twenty rushing yards and a rushing touchdown wide receiver twenty

604
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: this year. I'm Sam Donald's an interesting case because he

605
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: was hot all year long. He defied expectations. I mean,

606
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: let's let's not forget that. A lot of people I know, Florida,

607
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: you and I were sort of among them. We were

608
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: sort of downgrading a lot of Vikings because we're like, ooh,

609
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's the quarterback, Like I know how this goes,

610
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: you know. So we were like, I don't know if

611
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: I can take Justin Jefferson at number one. I don't

612
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: know if I want you know, Jordan Addison at all.

613
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want TJ Hawkinson when he

614
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: comes back. And a lot of us ended up looking

615
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of silly behind that. I don't think Sam Darnold's

616
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: going to be back next year. I think the way

617
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: the season ended that Week eighteen game against the Lions

618
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and then the playoff game against the Rams went about

619
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: as badly as you can anticipate. They've got JJ McCarthy

620
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. So I mean, florio are we

621
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: what do we do if the Vikings really do make

622
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: the move to McCarthy. Are we drafting JJ? McCarthy. Are

623
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: we still in on Justin Jefferson, like you know, early

624
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: flag plan, Like, how are we treating the Vikings offense

625
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: if they do make the change?

626
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: This sounds crazy. I might approach it how I approached

627
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: it last year, And I know, like you said, we

628
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: all wore egg on our face. But like and koc

629
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: is a very underrated coach. He's my pick to be

630
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year. I think we need to start

631
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: talking about him in the same regards that we do

632
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: like McVeigh and Shanahan and the other offensive geniuses in

633
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: this league, because he continues to get production regardless of

634
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: who he has at his disposure. But it's a rookie

635
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: who has Like I know, you could say, like, oh,

636
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: he missed his rookie year, he was still with the team,

637
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: he's learning the offense, all of that. I get it.

638
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: We've still yet to see him play at the NFL level.

639
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: I liked JJ as a prospect, but like there's questions

640
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: there and so to me, it all depends on cost.

641
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: Like I think we could look back at last season

642
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, we were definitely pushing Jordan Addison

643
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: down too far. And if he goes in a similar range.

644
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: I'll be cool drafting him, but like, am I gonna

645
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: do the thing where I start pushing other wide receivers

646
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: ahead of JJ? Again, maybe what I think worst case

647
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: scenario is is the Vikings franchise Sam Darnold, because then

648
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: you have to worry about a quarterback change happening midway

649
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: in the season or late in the season, and I

650
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: hate that for fantasy purposes. But yeah, the Vikings to

651
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: me are very much so a team that it's gonna

652
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: depend on the cost of their players, because if suddenly

653
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: I have to take Jordan Addison in the sixth round,

654
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that. So yeah, maybe it's the

655
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: same mistake as last year. But I don't know. Teams

656
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: with question marks at quarterback, you guys know, like the

657
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: whole offense could come crumbling down with them, So it's

658
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: it's very risky.

659
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: All right. Are you willing to take that risk?

660
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: Lakwan? Are you willing to buy in at you know,

661
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: potential higher prices for I guess say, for JJ, he's

662
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: always going to be kind of highly priced.

663
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: But Jordan Addison, TJ. Hawkinson, are you willing to buy in.

664
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: A I'm good off at TJ?

665
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Hawk.

666
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think that's run its course. But

667
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison, I'm kind of interested if like Floria was saying,

668
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: the price is right, Like the price has to be

669
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: right based on how I'm building my roster. I think

670
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: JJ obviously is Justin Jefferson is going to be a

671
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: top three pick. But I think we go with the

672
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: same approach to be safe, because honestly, last year I

673
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: went Jamar Chase in one league instead of Justin Jefferson,

674
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: and that kind of worked out, you know, Like it's

675
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: not like I went Christian McCaffrey and then you know,

676
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: got bailed out. You know, I was going to aj

677
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: over him all year, all summer, but that like I

678
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: still had him in the top five picks. I still

679
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: have him in the top three picks. But if you

680
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: ask me if certain things change, you know, right now

681
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: my mock, I got you know, Pooku Nakula where JJ

682
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: will go. So it's like, I feel like, if Cooper

683
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: cups on the leave, why can't we see a wide

684
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: receiver wearing a Rams jersey see one hundred and forty

685
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: five targets and if you get pooka one hundred and

686
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: fifty targets one hundred and forty five targets. This is

687
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: going to be elevated to maybe he be the next,

688
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: you know, top three picks in drafts. But once we

689
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: get closer to the season, I think we'll have all

690
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: our answers, you know, answered, and feel a little bit

691
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: more comfortable drafting Justin Jefferson at the right price in

692
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: those early in that early round.

693
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: So one thing that I took out of that, you

694
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: mentioned tjh So you're just out on TJ. Hawkinson.

695
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I'm out.

696
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: I have other tight ends that are on my radar

697
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: that I think will outperform him, and right now, a

698
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: couple guys like Tucker Craft, I think we get an

699
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: upgraded on him. I mean, I'm backing on John new

700
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Smith if he's going to be performing and waiting, I

701
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: just think there's other options now when we're getting guys

702
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: like Brock Bauers and Trade McBride, younger guys. So it's

703
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: like he's he's falling more down on my radar. Like

704
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm pretty much good off of that situation.

705
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: I love that because it's gonna make hacketson go cheaper

706
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: and and he's gonna be coming a year removed, He's

707
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: not coming back mid season off the ACL. He could

708
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: be the old Hawkinson again. So he's in that JK.

709
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: Dobbins bag that we just had the last year. If

710
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: he goes off, man, I'm good, I'm okay, I get it.

711
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm more. I think I'm definitely more in on him

712
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: than than you are.

713
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: L Q. I'm in on him, totaling more than Tucker Craft.

714
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: We just had a whole long conversation about how like

715
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: the Packers pass catchers are sort of such a such

716
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: a mess. I probably said Tucker Craft more than a

717
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: ton of other names on Fantasy Live this past year, right, Like,

718
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: I was big on Tucker Craft. But even then, like

719
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: in a in a world where they have like five

720
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: guys that can go to it's gonna be hard to

721
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: pick him out from week to week.

722
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: I just think that Christian Watson project is over, Like

723
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: I think gets honestly over with that and that whole experience,

724
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot more things open up.

725
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: So there's other tight ends that you know that might

726
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 3: fall to similar situations of a bigger role. I mean, look,

727
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: John Smith just was a top five you know, like

728
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: situational matters and coaching matters as well, and just I

729
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: just feel as though, you know, there's other guys that

730
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: I'd rather have than a TJ.

731
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 4: Hockinson.

732
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I love that John new Smith has colored your whole

733
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: way of thinking. Pun definitely intended. Yes, I think it's

734
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: funny some of the free agents that the Vikings have,

735
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Aaron Jones, Cam Akers again Donald, who knows,

736
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: maybe franchise tag is what happens there. I would like

737
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: to think they bring back Aaron Jones after what he did.

738
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: This past year. Cam Akers, who knows.

739
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: He's been something of a football vagabond the last couple

740
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: of years. So we'll see what happens with him there.

741
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: So next week we'll get back into it. It picks

742
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: number twenty five through twenty eight. In fact that next

743
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: week we'll finish it out twenty five through twenty eight,

744
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: and then we'll have twenty nine through thirty two. Coming up

745
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: next Thursday, we will be through our our fantasy exit interviews,

746
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: even before the Super Bowl actually happens. We're coming up

747
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: this week, We've got the Pro Bowl games. Take a

748
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: quick break, come back and don into some fun things

749
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: about that. That's next on the NFL Fantasy football show.

750
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: So this weekend is the Pro Bowl.

751
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 4: You know.

752
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Look, it has evolved over the years now has turned

753
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: into the Pro Bowl games where they have the skills competition,

754
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: which is a lot of fun. I would say that

755
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't know what to think

756
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: about the skills competition in the first year I watch it.

757
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is actually pretty cool. And now

758
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: they play the flag football game, which people had accused

759
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: it of becoming a flag football game over the past

760
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: few years. So I would say this, I mean, how

761
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: do we feel this is year three of this new format,

762
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: right as opposed to them just showing up doing the

763
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: media interviews and then playing a game where, let's be honest,

764
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: guys are half assing it most of the time. I mean,

765
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: just start with you with Florio, how do you feel

766
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: about the new format?

767
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: I think it's so much better. I am someone who

768
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: goes on record as saying and not just in the NFL,

769
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: an NBA, MLB, I'm not an all Star game kind

770
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: of person. I was when I was a kid, especially

771
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: in like baseball, where like you really wouldn't get to

772
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: see these guys compete against one another, but we see

773
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: it all the time now and even more so, like

774
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: like in football, I get it. These guys don't want

775
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: to go give it. They're all and get hurt, Like

776
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: there's seasons over for some of these guys. They haven't

777
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: played actual football in a month, like I get it.

778
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: So this new format is way better and the best part,

779
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: in my opinion of all All Star games are the

780
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: skills challenges. Like I love the three point contest. The

781
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: dunk contest is what it is nowadays, but as a

782
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: kid I loved it growing up. The skills challenge there

783
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: home run derby is always the best part of the

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: MLB All Star weekend, and for me with the NFL

785
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, the best part is watching these super athletes

786
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: get to do super athletic things that we don't normally

787
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: get to. Like I seventeen times a year I could

788
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: watch Jamar Chase do amazing things on the football field.

789
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: There's only one day a year I get to watch

790
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: and play dodgeball, you know, like I get excited for that.

791
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I'm guessing you are thumbs up

792
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: on this new format.

793
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

794
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's way better and it's more entertaining. It's engaging

795
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: as well. And like you get to see your favorite

796
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: players have fun, you know, joke with each other, interact

797
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: with each other. Like that's always been the cool part

798
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: for me. And like like four years in, like dodgeball

799
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: is my favorite thing to play, and like, I was

800
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: really surprised that I found out today actually that it's

801
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: banded in most public schools. Like that was where I

802
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: go too, man, Like when did that happen?

803
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? So? I mean the reason

804
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: is because we got to wait for you know, bigger

805
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: kids to bully smaller kids. And really that's really what

806
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, just like the bigger kids would

807
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: take the ball and just beat up on the smaller

808
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: kids with it, and it's like, baby.

809
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 3: That's always so fun. But it's one of those events

810
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: that you know, the Pro Bowl has become one of

811
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: those things that we're just like all right, we're but

812
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: this revamp is definitely better. I'm definitely gonna be watching it,

813
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: and I'm looking for the trivia, the big spike, like

814
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: all the little obstacle games that they have, you know,

815
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: and see some of these players just you know, go

816
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: out and just be athletic.

817
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: To your point, Florio, I have increasingly become of the

818
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: opinion that All Star Games are of a past era.

819
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: It was from a time where you couldn't see all

820
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: the guys. Like now, between the Internet and streaming services

821
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: and all these different ways to watch all the games,

822
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: you can watch every single one of these athletes in

823
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: pretty much every sport play on any given night.

824
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: Right, It's not like, you.

825
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Know, certainly when I was a kid, probably when you

826
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: guys were kids, where it's like, hey, man, bulls are

827
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: coming to town, Like this is my only chance to

828
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: see Michael Jordan besides the All Star Game, you know,

829
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: or whatever baseball player, whatever, you know, football player coming

830
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: to town, Like this is the only chance to really

831
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: see them. Now we can watch them anytime, and so

832
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I think that takes a lot of the thrill out

833
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: of the All Star Game. Also because book free agency

834
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: is great for players and I'm all for it, but

835
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: because now we see guys play together now, right, Like

836
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: in an All Star Game, it would have been amazing

837
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: to watch Steph Curry and Kevin Durance and Klay Thompson

838
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: play on the same team, but like now we've seen

839
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: it for real. Well yeah, you know, because because that

840
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: sort of thing happens now, so like all Star games

841
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: just have lost I think their appeal because all the

842
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: things that made All Star games great we now just

843
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 1: get every day.

844
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: So it's just not special.

845
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: The last it wasn't an All Star game, but it

846
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 2: was an exhibition game. You could say. The last time

847
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: I think the whole world kind of paused or like

848
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: we need to see these two athletes face off was

849
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: when Otani faced Trout in the World Baseball Classes.

850
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it really was.

851
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: I think outside of that, we've kind of, like I said,

852
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: we've seen it all.

853
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even even the Olympics.

854
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: Like it's cool, like we watched the Olympics, especially for

855
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: basketball because you know, we have patriotic pride, we want

856
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: the US to win, and yeah, it was cool watch

857
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: seeing Lebron and Steph and Katie and all these guys

858
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: win a gold medal. But it's not because we're like,

859
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we'll never see something like this again.

860
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: Like we'll see it again, we'll see it in the

861
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: NBA at some point.

862
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: It was because we might not see those guys play

863
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: together again.

864
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: True, that was, but I mean, we will see super

865
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: teams come together in the NBA. We will see you

866
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: know super team, you know, like the Dodgers are building

867
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: a death star out here in Los Angeles. The NFL

868
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: has sort of prevented it a little bit, but you know,

869
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: even then, Hey, look, man, are I guarantee you that

870
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: like eighty percent of our pitching staff will be on

871
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: the injured list by August?

872
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 4: Right, so like we we have to keep stockpiling.

873
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: It's the rest of Baseball's fault for not spending money.

874
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: It's not as fault, but it's equally as annoying.

875
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: Like blame.

876
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 4: Like I know Steve Cohen's trying to spend for the Mets,

877
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: but all.

878
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: The rest of you teams that are complaining, like, hey man,

879
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: you're owned by billionaires too.

880
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: You could do this if you wanted to.

881
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: The Pirates are offering more to an eleven year old

882
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: for a bit. They have a single free agent all

883
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: year long, so.

884
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: They offered that kid nothing of monetary value. By the way,

885
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you canna have some tickets to our

886
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: terrible team for the next thirty years.

887
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: He lives on the West coast.

888
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: Right, you can sit next to Little Done in the

889
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: press box, like nothing of monetary value. And then they

890
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: were shocked when he turned them down. Wow, didn't he

891
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: for this to go this way? Let's get back on

892
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: track as we wrap this thing up. If you guys

893
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: had to compete in one of these skills challenges, the

894
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: fact that you guys both mentioned dodgeball, I assume that's

895
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: the one you would prefer to be in.

896
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, like a stack dodgeball, Like, I'm down

897
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: to bring dodgeball back, man, Like, come on, there's no

898
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: way you can abandon in schools Like I want my

899
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: kids to go out there and compete too.

900
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

901
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 1: Man, it's all fun and games until it's Josh Allen

902
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: firing that ball at Yeah, I'll be honored to get

903
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: blasted in the face dodge Josh Allen.

904
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 4: Again.

905
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: It's all great until like they asked you how I felt,

906
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: and you're like.

907
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I think to come on my own with any

908
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 2: normal person. But yeah, you start putting quarterbacks out there,

909
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: and that's that's what it gets.

910
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're probably gonna beaming it.

911
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Oh man. So anyway, that should be a lot of

912
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: fun coming up this weekend.

913
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: We can check that out.

914
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: Well it's yours, Marcus, you know what, So.

915
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking through all the things I would

916
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: say the relay race, but I would get smoked in that.

917
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: But it would be fun just to like to see

918
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: like how fast these guys are.

919
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: To be fair, we would all get smoked in that.

920
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: Marcus, you look like you're fast. Used to be fast

921
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: back in the day now used.

922
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: To be like that was a long time ago. Like

923
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: my fears. I would like, you know, tear an achilles

924
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: or something like that, trying to run the race and

925
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: they have to they have to just roll me off

926
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: the course or something like that. But it would be

927
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: fun to like see how fast these guys are in

928
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: real life, you know, like when they're all running against

929
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: each other, they all look fast, but like when they're

930
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: running against I want to see them run against a

931
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: normal person, right, and like like, oh, you know, Jamark

932
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Chase is really fast, right, that sort of thing.

933
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: That's what I think we need once a year just

934
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: to remind all of these like people who watch it

935
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: home and say, like I could do that because I

936
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: play well in the rec league. Like no, no, no, need

937
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: to show these guys against regular people so you realize

938
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: how much better of an athlete they are.

939
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 4: Do either of you remember the show pros Versus Joe's.

940
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: Yes, and it needs to come back immediately.

941
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: Just just so that some of these people can be

942
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: used as a warning to others. That's it. Just like, hey, man,

943
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 1: so we have that internet debate about could you gain

944
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: five yards in an NFL game, that more people will

945
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: be like, na, man, I can't be done with it.

946
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: So so there.

947
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: I think I can get one yard. I can get

948
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: a first down. I can get a first down. I

949
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: know I can because I would literally just sprint as

950
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: fast as I jump. You get a first down, I

951
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: can get it first down. If it's four from one,

952
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: I will sprint as fast as I can just jump

953
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: in the air.

954
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, Josh Allen couldn't get one or quote unquote

955
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: couldn't get one the other day. He's six ' five

956
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: and a world class athlete.

957
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to because every time this conversation

958
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: comes up. I blought a clip from the old novel

959
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: paper Lion. It was a book written a long time ago,

960
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: back in the sixties about a reporter who got to

961
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: go to camp with the Lions and they let him

962
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: take snaps and everything as a quarterback. And he writes

963
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: about the experience. And I was like every time this

964
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: conversation comes up, I'm like, not enough people have read

965
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Paper Lion and it shows. And I always put a

966
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: clip of him taking a snap and basically how like

967
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: he feels the ball in his hands, he hears some

968
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: noise and next thing he knows, he's on the ground. Like,

969
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I'm going to send you that

970
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: clip so you can think about what you just said

971
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: and we can we can revisit this at a later time.

972
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: There you go. That'll do it. We're gonna make mquan

973
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 1: think about what he said and then we'll talk about

974
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: it next week. That'll do it.

975
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: Send me to rams Scamp. Send me to Rams Camp

976
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 3: and we'll see.

977
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: Oh my, I would pay money, but you'd have they

978
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: go out there with the blonde.

979
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 4: Hair, with the pads, and I pay so much money

980
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: for that.

981
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: Jared versusn't letting you run by him?

982
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 4: Man, you got health insurance, right, yeah.

983
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: Make sure you tell your kids you love them and

984
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: stuff that day because their dad is not going to

985
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: be the same man coming back.

986
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: I bear no responsibility for what happens then. So I

987
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: got the heart that I always had, the heart I'm

988
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: not questioning that. Yeah, it's not that. It's just the

989
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: strength and stamina and physical ability. Heart's one thing a

990
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: lot of folks got heart.

991
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 4: Heart doesn't get first downs.

992
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: A right.

993
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: There you go. That's that's enough of that.

994
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll wrap it up. We'll come back to

995
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: you next week. That'll do it for this edition of

996
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, save and healthy,

997
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: do good and live well, enjoy the Pro Bowl games, everybody.

998
00:46:51,200 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: I will talk to you again next week. Don't Bob,

999
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: don't know