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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulett,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland, Hey there, why are we so quiet today? Well,

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Speaker 1: that would be because we're finally going to tackle that

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Speaker 1: request for to do an episode on Cantana's like eight

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Speaker 1: this is the one that lots of people have asked

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Speaker 1: us to do. We are, of course talking about heck

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about something that has nothing to

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Speaker 1: going to ask that's what they want you to believe.

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Speaker 1: What what is your opinion about pumpkins? What is my

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Speaker 1: opinion about pumpkins? Um? There orange and they love flying

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Speaker 1: to tune into the Science Channel on November. That's right,

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Speaker 1: because the Road to Punkin Chunkin, followed by Punkin chunk

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Speaker 1: air on the Science Channel on November twenty six, and

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Speaker 1: you can watch crazy individuals who have built insanely huge

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Speaker 1: it's pretty massive. I gotta say, yeah, Flying fruit no conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: some actual conspiracy theories that relate back to technology. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was going to start with our friend Nicola Tesla.

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Speaker 1: Oh him, Yes, we talked about this once before in

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping for some synergy. So Tesla he came up

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Speaker 1: So it's using air. So yeah, it's using air. It's

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Speaker 1: not not some weird magnetic field. No, when you can't

430
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, fly through the air and do crazy stunts

431
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: on it, you would basically be you know, floating an

432
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Speaker 1: inch above the ground, probably at a fairly low rate

433
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Speaker 1: of speed, right until you fell off. I was about

434
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: to say I would probably be falling off, because that's

435
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I have no sense of dexterity on something like that.

436
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: But if you want to, you know, pull a steel

437
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: fishman twist on it, I'm not gonna happen. I got

438
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: another segue for you. Okay, So we're talking about the future.

439
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: We are, Oh, yes, yes we were, and time travel.

440
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: One of our other conspiracy theories has something to do

441
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Speaker 1: with time travel, does it really? Yes, we're talking about

442
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: the Large Hadron Collider. And this is the weirdest conspiracy

443
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: theory in my opinion, because it involves a conspiracy of

444
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: nature against man. That yeah, it's a completely non sentient

445
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: thing stopping people. All right, So let's let's this is

446
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: going to take some explanation. First of all, you've got

447
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: the Large Hadron Collider, which is a particle accelerator. It's

448
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: going to be an Adam smasher essentially. Really, it's a

449
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: particle smasher. Fifteen years, nine billion dollars, it's been we've

450
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: been waiting for it to be We've been waiting for

451
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: it to come online for a while now. It was

452
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: supposed to be online last year and then some stuff

453
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: went wrong and it got delaid. Yeah, so one of

454
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Speaker 1: the things the Large Hadron Collider is possibly looking for.

455
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Just one of the many things that the scientists are

456
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Speaker 1: looking for using this machine, it's something called the Higgs

457
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Boson particle. It's also sometimes referred to as the God particle,

458
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: which I think is absolutely ridiculous, but there you go. Now,

459
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Speaker 1: the Higgs Boson particle is a theoretical particle. We do

460
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Speaker 1: not know if it actually exists. It's hypothetic. It's been

461
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: theorized as the the thing in the universe that would

462
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: explain why stuff has mass because if you look at

463
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Speaker 1: the Big Bang theory. This is really getting complicated complicated,

464
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: but if you look at the Big Bang theory, but

465
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: for just when when the universe came into being, that

466
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: that first instant, there was no such thing as mass.

467
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: It was this kind of combination of energy and mass

468
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: that then split, so then you had energy and you

469
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: had mass. The Higgs Boaston particle would be the theoretical

470
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: particle that would explain why that mass has mass. So

471
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: that's one thing they helped to find by using this

472
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: particle accelerator because it it in a way is simulating

473
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Speaker 1: the events that immediately followed the Big Bang on a

474
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Speaker 1: very very very tiny scale, and this is all happening

475
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: in less than a second. I mean, it's it's so

476
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: fast that it's difficult for me to even imagine. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: two physicists, Dr Holger Nielsen and Dr Missile uh Ninomia

478
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Speaker 1: have proposed that the Higgs Boson particle itself, the nature itself,

479
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: has sent the Higgs Boson particle back in time and

480
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Speaker 1: sabotage the Large Hadron Collider because the purpose, yes, because

481
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: the Large Hadron Collider has broken down a couple of times.

482
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Speaker 1: The idea here is that nature itself is so abhorrent

483
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: of the Higgs Boson particle that were you to create one,

484
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: they there will be horrible consequences. So before you can

485
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Speaker 1: create one, Nature is sending stuff back in time to

486
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Speaker 1: stop the creation, to prevent horrible catastrophe. Okay, now here's

487
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: my problem with this. First of all, it's suggesting there's

488
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Speaker 1: some sort of sentient aspect to the Higgs Boson particle,

489
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: which again is just theoretical. We don't even know it

490
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: exists and we're already giving its sentience. Well you know,

491
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: it's not listed in the in the white pages. Secondly,

492
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: it's suggesting that time travel back in time is possible,

493
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: something that right now we do not believe is actually possible.

494
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: We think that if if time travel is possible, you

495
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: can only do it going forward, not backwards. Thirdly, okay,

496
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: so if you are given the choice between saying, all right,

497
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Speaker 1: you've got the world's most complex, huge machine, with lots

498
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: and lots and lots of parts, all from different manufacturers,

499
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: all put together, and it's insanely complex. Is it more

500
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Speaker 1: likely that one little part of that could break, thus

501
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: screwing up the project? Or is it more likely to

502
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: say that some particle that gains sentience traveled back in

503
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: time and stopped it knowing human beings. I say that

504
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: the breaking part is more likely. Acom's razor demands that

505
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: we say, hey, guys, this is a really complex machine.

506
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I can't make sure that my car will run two

507
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: months in a row. We're talking about a machine that's

508
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: orders of magnitude more complex than a vehicle. You know,

509
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: if you want to know, if you want to keep

510
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: up to date on what's going on with the l

511
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: h C, you can always check out has the LHC

512
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: destroyed Earth dot Com? And it will let you know

513
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: was it say right, now okay, good. Also, I think

514
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: if you really want to destroy the Earth, you would

515
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: need a Q thirty six space modulatur Where was the

516
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: earth shuttering? Kaboom um? So the Yeah, there's the LHC. Also,

517
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: there's the theory that they will create a black hole

518
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: and it will destroy the Earth. Any black hole that

519
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: would be created in the LHC would be so incredibly

520
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: tiny and would last for such a brief moment of

521
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Speaker 1: time that it would not affect anything really. Uh. And

522
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: the LHC does not do anything that isn't already happening

523
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: everywhere in the universe right now, Like it's happening everywhere.

524
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: It's just that in the LHC, it's under controlled conditions

525
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: that can be observed and measured. All right, I'm I'm

526
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: good for that. Now, I'm done with that. Did you

527
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: want to did you want to pick the next one?

528
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Speaker 1: Or shall I know? I just uh, I was thinking that,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, if they did, if we did find a

530
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Q thirty six space modulator, it would require the presence

531
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Speaker 1: of aliens. Ah. I think I see where you're going

532
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: with this one. Are we are? We taking a little

533
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Speaker 1: trip out west to Nevada to Nevada. Yes, so, ladies

534
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, maybe you've heard of a top secret location

535
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: called Area fifty one. First of all, Area fifty one

536
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: does exist, all right. That's not a conspiracy that it

537
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: is a it is an actual location, although the government

538
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily refer to it as that. And that would

539
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: be the Atomic Energy Commission Nevada test site. Yeah, that

540
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: they were the ones who came up with the idea

541
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Speaker 1: of calling it Area fifty one. And there are different

542
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: theories about why that is, the main one being market.

543
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: The main one being that they had they had marked

544
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Speaker 1: out land in a grid for testing nuclear bombs, and

545
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: they gave each grid a number, each square of the

546
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Speaker 1: grid a number, and Area fifty one happens to be

547
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: adjacent to Area fifteen. So it could just be that

548
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: the number itself has been flipped, and that's why it's

549
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: called Area fifty one. It's usually referred to as Groom Lake,

550
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: but it has lots of other different names as well. Um,

551
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: and it's then go. It tends to be. It tends

552
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: to be. Uh. It tends to figure fairly highly in

553
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: the uphology and alien conspiracy theory. UH circles. Yes, of course,

554
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: because they're not testing nuclear weapons, they're you know, dissecting aliens.

555
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I saw the Alien Autopsy TV show, so yeah, this

556
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: often has a lot too. Is tied in with Roswell, which,

557
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: by the way, is nowhere near Groom Lake. Well, I

558
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: mean it's closer than say, you know, Atlanta. You know,

559
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: it's closer than it's closer than Georgia, but it's not

560
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: it's not nearby. Um, but yeah, there are there are

561
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people who say, well, there's strange lights

562
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: that would be flying over Area fifty one. It's probably

563
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: alien technology, and the the United States is testing different

564
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: craft that they managed to confiscate from aliens. And well,

565
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: you know they've got hangars that they can you know,

566
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: wheel aircraft into. Should a satellite flyover? Yes, And that

567
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: is true because Area fifty one is a testing location.

568
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: It's where the Air Force tests out various secret projects

569
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: that are going to eventually possibly become actual equipment that

570
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: the the United States depends upon for military purposes. So

571
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: lots of aircraft got there, like Stealth Bomber, got their

572
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: start in facilities like Groom Lake or Area fifty one.

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00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: This was where the tests were conducted, where the planes

574
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: were built and flown. Um, it's a no fly zone

575
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: even for the Air Force because it's meant to keep

576
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: secrecy at the highest levels. Um. Actually, from why I heard,

577
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: it's not even used that much anymore because they've moved

578
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot of their operations to Colorado now. But Roy Mountain.

579
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: I but it's not a it's not a home for aliens.

580
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: It's a home for top secret, cutting edge technology aircraft. Um.

581
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: But Terrest really derived aircraft. Yeah. Well, I mean if

582
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: we were home for aliens, and they wouldn't be aliens anymore, right,

583
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, fine, people from other planets have

584
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: visited US, gained a visa and became citizens, get a

585
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: green card. Yeah, someone's been watching too much Third Rock.

586
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Area fifty one. There are a lot

587
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories around it, and part of it is

588
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: because the area does have such a reputation for secrecy,

589
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: and it's it's a well earned reputation because the government

590
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: really does protect the stuff that's going on there because

591
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: it's top secret. It's not but it's not necessarily related

592
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: to aliens. It's just related to technologies they don't want

593
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the world to know about. Before they

594
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: get a chance to, you know, because then you would

595
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: lose the edge, right and in whatever arms race you're

596
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: currently pursuing, or if you just want to think of

597
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: it another way. In in an effort to keep the

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00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: country safe, of course, the Silvius took pictures of it

599
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: from overhead, and you know, you can go look at

600
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: it right now on Google Maps or Google Earth. Yea,

601
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: I actually see in picture. Like I said, it's it's

602
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: it's a legitimate place. And there are other things that

603
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: have happened there that relate to conspiracy theories. There was

604
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: this whole element of destroying certain materials which ended up

605
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: being carcinogenic and and dangerous, and several employees came down

606
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 1: with various illnesses and ailments and and sued the government

607
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: a perfectly perfectly mundane diseases caused by hazardous materials being

608
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: burned in there and their proximity. So the problem was

609
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: that because everything was under top secret orders, it was

610
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: very difficult to pursue a legal claim against the government,

611
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: uh saying that you know, essentially the government caused my

612
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: illness in some cases. In many cases, in fact, people

613
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: died as a result of this, and um and there

614
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: was a real struggle in the government, a debate on

615
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: what was more important keeping all this secret or revealing

616
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: certain information because people were dying and um some of it.

617
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: That was about when when some of them information was

618
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: actually declassified, not all of it by any stretch of

619
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: the imagination, but enough of it to kind of sort

620
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: of admit that there was a facility there, because up

621
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: to that point there was no admission whatsoever. I mean,

622
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: there was a physical facility there that you could take

623
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: pictures of and everything, if people didn't run you off

624
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: the property before you got chance to snap a photo,

625
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: But the government consistently denied the presence of any facility

626
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: there for many many years. Nothing to see here exactly.

627
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: So you wanna, hey, how about another government thing? Hey,

628
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: did you know that CIA is running Facebook? Are? No,

629
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: they're not, or at least there's no proof. There's a

630
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: rumor going around the internet, actually been around for a

631
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: couple of years that the CIA is somehow involved and

632
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: gathering information using Facebook as the front for getting as

633
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: much personal information about people as it possibly can. The

634
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: way the theory goes is that Facebook got some venture

635
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: capital funding from various sources in its second round of

636
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: venture capital funding. It received money from a company called

637
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Excel Partners, which was managed by a man named James Bryer. Oh.

638
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: James Brier also sat on a board called National Venture

639
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Capital Association, which had happened to have on the board

640
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Speaker 1: a man by the name of Gilman Louis. Now Louis

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Speaker 1: had sat on the board of a company called n

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Speaker 1: q TELL, which was a venture capital firm established by

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Speaker 1: the c i A. So you've got a guy who

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Speaker 1: sat on a VC firm for the CIA, who happens

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Speaker 1: to also sit on a board that this other guy

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Speaker 1: sits on, who happens to also be on a board

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Speaker 1: that then funds Facebook. So somehow this series of connections

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Speaker 1: means that CIA has become involved in Facebook. I don't

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Speaker 1: buy it. It's just it's venture capital funds exist for

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Speaker 1: one purpose, mainly, which is to to make money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they invest in ventures that they think are going

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Speaker 1: to be successful. And I think the connection seems pretty tenuous.

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Speaker 1: But I am concerned because I didn't hear Kevin Bacon's

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Speaker 1: name mentioned once. He has a Facebook page, UM, or

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Speaker 1: at least there's a fan page falls into place. UM.

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Speaker 1: There are other connections as well. I'm sure I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get listener mail about this. There are other connections

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Speaker 1: as well that that can that are concerning because it's

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Speaker 1: people who have obviously been involved in various functions that

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Speaker 1: include things like data mining. I mean, it's the stuff

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Speaker 1: that they've been involved in really does link back to

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Speaker 1: get gathering information for intelligence purposes. Well, you know, Facebook

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Speaker 1: is renowned for its ability to collect information. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the thing though. That's the thing is because of that,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to draw those connections, right because you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: well Facebook is very good at gathering information. It's receiving

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Speaker 1: funds from a person who also sat on a board

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Speaker 1: that was set on by people who were interested in

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Speaker 1: gathering information. That's enough of a connection for some people

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Speaker 1: to say that there's a conspiracy. For me, there needs

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00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: to be a little more proof than that. I could,

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Speaker 1: I could definitely see why the concern would pop up

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Speaker 1: that I don't necessarily jump to that conclusion. So just

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Speaker 1: because there's a guy who knows a guy who knows

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: a guy, that that doesn't tie it all together for you.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys who know guys, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make me any sort of mastermind. I think

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Speaker 1: most people would have yeah exactly, Yeah. Yeah. People people

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Speaker 1: who know me, they'll be like, well, there goes that theory,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you never I always put blue in

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Speaker 1: the second spot, and you never get that. Jove, I

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Speaker 1: don't even get the white peg. I used to play

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Speaker 1: that game too, So uh, for those of you that

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Speaker 1: we lost, let's do you get anything else? You have

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Speaker 1: any other conspiracy theories? I have one other one I

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Speaker 1: can bring up. We have tons of conspiracy theories. I

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Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to do another one of these. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I agree, this will just be conspiracy

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Speaker 1: you know, tech conspiracy theories one and then we will

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Speaker 1: do a series of them. Some of these you could

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Speaker 1: probably do a full podcast on, like Area fifty one

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Speaker 1: could be a series of podcasts, But that really wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be what we would talk about. I mean that's not

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Speaker 1: really our place none. Really. I wonder if we could

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Speaker 1: you know what, I bead stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know, could do something about Area Yes, but we

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Speaker 1: have to find a way to contact them, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that now that ben uh is kind

699
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Speaker 1: of masterminding things like that, he's really difficult to track

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Speaker 1: down like he changed his name and his face. I

701
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Speaker 1: think he wears a dress. Actually he did that before,

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Speaker 1: but he's really gotten better at coordinating now belt and

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Speaker 1: pumps fabulous. A Well, that wraps up this conversation about it.

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Speaker 1: We will have another one in the near future, and

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Speaker 1: I guess that leads us to listener mail. And this

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Speaker 1: listener mail comes from Rowland. Oh he put the O

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Speaker 1: in parentheses. Hey, Josh and Chuck ha ha, just kidding. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Chris and Jonathan just wanted to say I love your

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Speaker 1: podcast and you two are really good at what you do.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your How Podcasting Works podcast. Great info,

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Speaker 1: and you have helped me select some microphones to buy

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Speaker 1: a KG. If it's not too much trouble, could you

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Speaker 1: tell me if your mix could also double for recording music,

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Speaker 1: more specifically loud music guitar and drums with lots of distortion.

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Speaker 1: Maybe your producer Matt knows. I'm not so good with

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Speaker 1: decoding the specs on certain things. Anyway, Great job and

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Thanks Rowland. Oh t S.

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Speaker 1: I noticed How Stuff Works dot Com has moved to

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Speaker 1: a mobile browser for smartphones, possibly another podcasting topic. I

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Speaker 1: thought I would throw this one over to Chris, as

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Speaker 1: Chris is a rock and roll legend in my own mind.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps go for it now. Um yeah, I just just

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Speaker 1: to be on the stay side. Actually, Tyler is doing

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Speaker 1: our podcast day. We have a number of folks who

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Speaker 1: produced with us. Um and just as a matter of confirmation,

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Speaker 1: and yes, you probably could use these microphones to record

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Speaker 1: loud music, um, if you'd like to. UM. When I've

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Speaker 1: gone into the studio in the past a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: it takes sort of some trial and error. Um, you're

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Speaker 1: you're gonna wanna do some testing some uh, some line

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Speaker 1: checks and and mike checks to make sure that you're

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Speaker 1: not overwhelming those mics. Depending on the kind of equipments

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Speaker 1: you've got on the other end to capture that's the sound. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you may end up needing baffles. Uh, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm being a drummer. I've actually tried to record drums

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Speaker 1: straight into a microphone and it basically just distorts it

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Speaker 1: to the point of non recognition. Although it kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds that like it might be something that already down

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Speaker 1: your alley. But yes, these are these are very nice

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Speaker 1: mics that we use here. And um, I think they

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Speaker 1: would probably work fine, although you know your minlage may

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Speaker 1: very some restrictions apply off or not dealt in all

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Speaker 1: fifty states. You might want to try it out and

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. Um, so you know, give it

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Speaker 1: a try. Cool all right? Well, thanks Roland. Oh, if

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Speaker 1: any of you have any questions, comments, concerns, suggestions for

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Speaker 1: podcasts that kind of thing, you can email us or

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Speaker 1: email address is tech stuff at how stuff works dot com. Remember,

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Speaker 1: we have our live show every Tuesday one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: You can find that on the blogs how stuff works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Just look on the right hand side. You'll

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Speaker 1: see the links there and Chris and I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you again really soon for more on this and

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