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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Jets upset of the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: as the saying goes, had been playing with their food

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Speaker 2: for the last four or five weeks, not putting people away, struggling.

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Speaker 2: I do think they missed Shane Stike and the offensive

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Speaker 2: of the Colts. We all recognize that coordinators matter. I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Niners defense is quite as good as

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Speaker 2: last year. Demiko Ryans is now the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans, who won another game with rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: So I just think the Eagles are a really good team,

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Speaker 2: struggling to find an identity and four turnovers. Jets didn't

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Speaker 2: real playmaker on the outside, Garrett Wilson, nice running back.

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Speaker 2: O line is suboptimal, tremendous defense. They're playing into Zach

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Speaker 2: go and get into trouble. Didn't love all their play calling.

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Speaker 2: If you looked at the box score outside of the turnovers,

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Speaker 2: you would have thought the Eagles won. Well. If you

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Speaker 2: have thought USC one. It doesn't matter. Limit turnovers, limit

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Speaker 2: the trouble Zach Wilson can get you in play great defense,

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Speaker 2: take the ball away. You know when I watched Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: and I think Julian Edelman was on my show about

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Speaker 2: four or five days ago, three or four days ago

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Speaker 2: at Fox, and he said, every September, you know, Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick's worst month of his career. With September, He said,

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Speaker 2: every single team, even super Bowl winning teams, the next September,

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Speaker 2: if you had ninety percent same roster, he goes, every

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Speaker 2: team had a different identity. And Bill believed the first

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Speaker 2: four to five weeks of the season, you found your identity.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia can't find one. But they're really, really talented, and

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Speaker 2: so the quest is can we figure out exactly what

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Speaker 2: we are? Obviously Jalen Hurts made some mistakes today. Also

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Speaker 2: makes you know Philadelphia usually is a very good, big

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Speaker 2: moment team with this roster. But it's not a surprise.

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan had an MVP with Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 2: leaves slowly. He's not the same quarterback Philadelphia is. You

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Speaker 2: can be two things, very good and lacking a true identity.

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Speaker 2: For years, Michigan under Harbaugh was really good, but it

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Speaker 2: wasn't until about two three years ago. They found that

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Speaker 2: true Michigan identity. We're going to physically, at the point

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Speaker 2: of attack dominate you. Ohio State may have better players

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Speaker 2: last couple of years, they feel like they've kind of

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Speaker 2: Brock Purty. You wanted to acknowledge Brady was the goat.

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Speaker 2: and that's that's what really good franchise quarterbacks do. Ninety

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Speaker 2: Even Mahomes benefits from Kelsey and Andy Reid. So I

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Speaker 2: he did his job. The Patriots dynasty was built on

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Speaker 2: do your job. The kicker didn't do his job, okay,

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Speaker 2: and San Francisco got some heat for drafting the kicker

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Speaker 2: where they drafted him. And to this point, you know,

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Speaker 2: previous week. So it was one of those circle games.

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Speaker 2: You know, the line changed dramatically because of the quarterback play.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, Cleveland moved the ball enough, deserved

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans, and I infrequently do they beat the Saints.

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Speaker 2: So everybody always makes excuses for their young quarterback Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: what box did CJ. Stroud have in his favor when

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Speaker 2: he got there. Did he have a clever offensive coach

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Speaker 2: he not only had a defensive coach, he had a

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Speaker 2: He's a first time play caller, a shaky offensive line,

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Speaker 2: this is what Justin Fields has faced in Chicago. But

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Speaker 2: Stroud is a rookie and once again delivered, wasn't great,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, He's not Lamar, he's not Mahomes. I don't

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Speaker 2: got certain gifts. I could argue c J. Stroud has

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert walks In has the thirty second ranked offensive

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Speaker 2: had good receivers. Well, everybody's got something, but generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: Herbert or Andrew Luck, you're gonna lose, like you know,

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Speaker 2: lot of the things that Justin Fields faces. C J.

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Speaker 2: the tougher AFC. So you know, I well, Mac Jones

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Speaker 2: want to hear it. The best quarterbacks in this league

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Speaker 2: to keep winning games. Philadelphia lost today but Philadelphia had

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Speaker 2: with injuries. Boy Lamar, he has become a legitimate pocket

428
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Speaker 2: guy with movement.

429
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Speaker 1: I thought one of the best halves of football that

430
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Speaker 1: has been played, and it was on clear display. As

431
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Speaker 1: we realize how good Cleveland defenses was Lamar a couple

432
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago against them, and you know Deshaun missed that game.

433
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: Dtr was in and he just eviscerated him in the

434
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Speaker 1: first half. I think he I completely agree one. You know,

435
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Speaker 1: I think Steve Young is the best total package of

436
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: all time. But really, by the mid nineties, he was

437
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: a pure pocket quarterback. He was not a runner. Michael

438
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Vick and I saw it firsthand in Philly was such

439
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: a reckless runner because he couldn't slide, so he took

440
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot of shots. Lamar, to me, has become kind

441
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Speaker 1: of the total package of a lot like Jalen Hurts,

442
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: they know how to avoid hits that they are not

443
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Speaker 1: getting molly wopped down the field.

444
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Speaker 3: Lamar's faster than Jalen.

445
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Speaker 1: But as you saw today against the Jests, like Lamar

446
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: probably has a little more touch currently the way he's

447
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: playing this year than Jalen for sure. So like they

448
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: got a bunch of injuries, they have been really good

449
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: for the most part this season. And again I go

450
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: back to a couple of weeks ago. When you have

451
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Speaker 1: that ability against you know, right now, the best defense

452
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Speaker 1: in the league in Cleveland, you can beat anyone on

453
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Speaker 1: any given week, and they just they always, for whatever reason,

454
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: get a million guys injured. But he's proven and last

455
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: year was weird with the money, the contract going back

456
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: and forth, the no agent. They've clearly got that figured out.

457
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Speaker 1: And he to me when I watch him right now,

458
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Speaker 1: all season long, he's been fantastic. I think he's definitely

459
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call him an MVB dark horse anymore.

460
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Speaker 3: He's he's smack dab in the mix.

461
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: And if you didn't watch the Steeler game they lost,

462
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: they completely outplayed them. They had two touchdowns dropped. So

463
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Speaker 2: that's one of those games because the NFL to.

464
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Speaker 1: I think eight total drops. Now, he did have a

465
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Speaker 1: bad pick in that game, but yeah, he hit a

466
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Speaker 1: bunch of drops.

467
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Speaker 2: That NFL is still largely except Sunday Night Monday Night,

468
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: a regional television product. So if you live Denver West,

469
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: you don't see Lamar in a lot of these games.

470
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Speaker 2: So and most people out West did not get up

471
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Speaker 2: early like I did to watch this game. That Pittsburgh game.

472
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Speaker 2: They totally outplayed him. But Tennessee is Tennessee is a

473
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Speaker 2: physical team, and god Lamar was good. One other thing

474
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. I got to give credit. Two things

475
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: can be true that the Rams would not have won

476
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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with out Matt Stafford and Jared Goff

477
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: and the Lions. Outside of Philly and San Francisco, they

478
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Speaker 2: have the talent people think Dallas does. I watched them today.

479
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean they don't have great corners, pass rush playmakers,

480
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: O line coordinators, Brad Holmes upstairs and that executive suite.

481
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: This is a really good roster. It's not San Francisco,

482
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: but I think it's in the class of Philadelphia. And again,

483
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: if you had Brock Purdy and his contract, you could

484
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: have two more stars, So you can go buy a

485
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 2: star corner like they can go. You know, they can

486
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: buy a McCaffrey. They can keep two great linebackers. I

487
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: think Stafford's good and mcbay's having a great year. But

488
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: I watched Detroy today and I'm like, hey, are the Cowboys.

489
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: They have the better quarterback, right we talked Dan Quinn.

490
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: They have Ben Johnson, they have a better pass rush,

491
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: they have a better offensive line. I think Detroit's really good.

492
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought them up because I think they're

493
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: a sneaky dark horse for the number one seed. Look

494
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: at their schedule. They have not played Minnesota yet. They

495
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: have not played the Bears yet. They already beat Green

496
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Bay in Green Bay, so they get them at home.

497
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the toughest game on their schedule. They won

498
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: Week one against the Chiefs. They still got Denver, they

499
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: still got the Raiders. I mean this team, the talent

500
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: they have. The other thing is the trade they made

501
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Speaker 1: with Stafford. Think of the players that netted them even

502
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Speaker 1: last year.

503
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: What did they do.

504
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you can't take a running back in the

505
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: first round. Well, they traded back and they added the

506
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: tight end as well. Who's fantastic they got today Jamison

507
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Williams touchdown. They drafted him last year. Torn acl one

508
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: of the fastest players in the league. To me, their

509
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: high end impact players are now. They're a little younger

510
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: than the Eagles and the Niners, but they have a

511
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: chance with the tight end, with the wide receiver. Sat

512
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Brown is fantastic. How about that touchdown he had today.

513
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: The way Goff's playing right, I mean, he's a top

514
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the NFL. Aiden Hutchinson has a chance

515
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: to be one of the better pass rushers. They have

516
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of Pro Bowl high end guys and when

517
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: you have that on it, they destroyed Tampa. I mean

518
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: that they shoved that game. To me, was and Tampa's

519
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: maybe not be bad. I mean, Tampa has a lot

520
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: of high end players too, and they shoved him around

521
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: on the road off a bye.

522
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: Go to that game two weeks ago against Green Bay.

523
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: It was not physically competitive. Like I don't know if

524
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: the Packers had five starters. You know, Jay r Alexander

525
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: clearly starts, yeah, but I don't know if the Packers

526
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Speaker 2: had five starters that would start for Detroit, Like their

527
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: old line has to be two or three, one, two

528
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: or three in the league. And you know, Goff's funny.

529
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Speaker 2: I've said for years, I think Goff's a better Matt Ryan,

530
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: and Matt Ryan wanted an MVP. He's a better Matt Ryan.

531
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Speaker 2: I think he moves a little better, stronger arm number

532
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Speaker 2: one pick. You know what it's again. I think people

533
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: forget Goff got to a Super Bowl. Goff couldn't beat

534
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Well, hell, the Rams can't beat him with Stafford.

535
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: It's a bad matchup. You start looking out like the

536
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Rams got the ring with Stafford.

537
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: But they've got a big.

538
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: Decision to make, Like they have about five needs next

539
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: year and they can only get about three of those

540
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: for immediate help if they have a rookie quarterback, and

541
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: they can. I don't know what they do with Stafford.

542
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: He's still good, so was Cup so was Donald. But

543
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: let's talk Rams as they beat Arizona. What do they

544
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: I've done this in my head a million times, and

545
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: I've texted less need is that they need probably an

546
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: upgrade at left tackle, another edge rusher, probably a number

547
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: one running back. They moved off Van Jefferson. They'll probably

548
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: get another wide receiver. They don't have a lot of

549
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: money still because of Stafford, unless he redoes his contract

550
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: and he didn't want to do that in the offseason.

551
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: Would you if you were the Rams, you're less snee

552
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: would you say to yourself, I'm going to trade down

553
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: in the first round and get two forced two fists, whatever,

554
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: and give Matt one more run at a super Bowl,

555
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: or we're going to take the quarterback or even move up.

556
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: We're not going to be a super Bowl team. We've

557
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: got a few players, but may have to give up

558
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: a second pick or a third pick and then just

559
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: realize Matt's going to have another nine win season and

560
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: then we're going to move on. Would you give Matt

561
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: the extra year like a not draft in this quarterback class,

562
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: not go draft, move down in the draft, get multiple players,

563
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: and say Matt, we're gonna give you one more super

564
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Bowl run.

565
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Speaker 1: To me if he's on the field all year long,

566
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're competing for a wildcard spot and you

567
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: keep rolling it back to me, I'm invested in the

568
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I mean they need offensive lineman. I'm

569
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: drafting multiple offensive lineman because, as you can see, Sean

570
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: McVay is an offensive mind. They haven't really had a

571
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: running back for years. They've been competitive right since Todd Gurley,

572
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: what he's doing with the passing game. Now they got

573
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Speaker 1: Cooper cup back. Yeah, I mean to me his longest.

574
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Speaker 1: Stafford's healthy, And that was my biggest question mark because

575
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: last year you get the Elbowl thing. We saw a

576
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago with Big Ben it just fell

577
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: off a cliff. Well, you're watching Stafford this year. He

578
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: looks fantastic. I mean, he's slinging that around like he

579
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: did in Detroit. So to me, you just get a

580
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: little more talented up front because in the NFC, think

581
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: who you're gonna have to be. Obviously the forty nine ers,

582
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: why do they struggle with him? Camp pass block Dallas,

583
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: Philly all great pass rushes. Now Detroit with Aiden Hutchinson

584
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: their defensive line. So to me, I have no problem

585
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: running back with Aiden Hudson. I also think, I mean

586
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford. But when you look at some of

587
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: these other teams, you can draft guys in the middle

588
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: round at quarterback because part of having Sean McVay. Now

589
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: they did it with Setson Bennett. I don't know all

590
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: the details. Something's a little weird there that that looks

591
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: like they regret that one, right, But I don't mind

592
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: the mindset taking a guy third, fourth, fifth round, held

593
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine er serving quarterbacks in the seventh round.

594
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Speaker 3: So you have Sean mcbivay.

595
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Speaker 1: The reason you pay him all this money is cause

596
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: remember Jared goffs Now he was the number one overall pick.

597
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But when Sean McVay took over the job, everyone thought

598
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: the guy was gonna be out of the league in

599
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: like two years based off his rookie season, right because

600
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: it was pretty ugly. And then he immediately that year

601
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs. Within two years they're competing

602
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl. So yeah, I mean I would roll

603
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: with Stafford as long as I feel good about his health.

604
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: But this quarterback classes, and you saw, you know on Saturday.

605
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: The talent you pass the first two guys is pretty elite.

606
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it really is.

607
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: So let's talk some college football here to wrap this up.

608
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Speaker 2: I think Pennix, I don't know what his comp is,

609
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: but he was willing with a better receiving crew to

610
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: sit longer in the pocket, seize the field. Well, beautiful

611
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: deep ball sideline thrower was much more willing had more physical,

612
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: courage to sit in the pocket to the last second.

613
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Muddy pocket, get hit bo Nix is Derek Carr generally

614
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: first second read, wants to get it out, decisive, accurate,

615
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: gets it out. You can move the pocket with him,

616
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: but that's not what he is. Very much to meet

617
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: Derek Carr where professional, accurate, but didn't wait an extra beat,

618
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: played with much cleaner pocket, didn't wait the extra beat,

619
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Speaker 2: got it out, got it completed underneath stuff where I

620
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: thought he could have waited another half second to a second. Panix,

621
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Speaker 2: We'll just sit down there until his guys get deep.

622
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: I said this earlier. What I don't look about what

623
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: I see with Colorado and USC programs. This is still

624
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: college football, and I'm for the nil, but they become

625
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: very coach quarterback dominant. I'm the man Oregon Washington have

626
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: first round quarterbacks. They're about the program, and it was

627
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 2: so refreshing to go. I want there to be a

628
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: gap between pro football and college football, like I like

629
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: the cheerleaders, the bands, the collegiate field. I don't have

630
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: a problem with an il, but I think USC has

631
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: gotten sloppy. I think they're about Caleb making great plays

632
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: too much. Heisman talk. I think shaduer Sanders, Dion Sanders.

633
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: I love the mission, but again like it's not a

634
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 2: complete football program. And I I love college football, and

635
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: part of what I love about it is its history

636
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: and Penn State's uniforms and the big House. And I

637
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: think USC feels a bit booge to me. And they've

638
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: gotten a little They've fallen in love with the brand USC,

639
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: and they don't really do anything well. They don't run well,

640
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: they don't pass block, they don't tackle well. And in

641
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: a strange way, as I watched them play Notre Dame,

642
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I said, they deserve this. They've gotten a little too

643
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: much love too quickly. And Washington and Oregon, having sat there,

644
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: those are buttoned up, do multiple things well Kaylin de

645
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: boor Dan Lanning really well coached excellent NFL players. But

646
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: it's about the community, the programs, the stadium, the fan.

647
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: I mean Oddston and Husky Stadium are about as loud

648
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: as college football cats And so as I watched that

649
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: game and then I watch USC Notre Dame, and I'm like,

650
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: I fell Washington and Oregon really easy to root for,

651
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: and USD increasingly kind of a hard watch and hard

652
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: to root for.

653
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Listen, I know you've talked to him. I like Lincoln

654
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: philosophically from a football since I don't agree with a

655
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: lot of the things the way that he looks at

656
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously the quarterback matters, but he just doesn't

657
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: care about defense. I mean, he strictly doesn't. And his

658
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: ethos as a coach is represented by the way they play,

659
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and there's a softness to it.

660
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: There just is.

661
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: And I think look at some of the things that

662
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: have happened this year that the banning of the reporter,

663
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: like what are we doing? That feels so, you know,

664
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: nonpower five such a small minded move to me. And

665
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: then there's another thing that I've been told by NFL people.

666
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: He shut it down for NFL scouts after Week two,

667
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: I think till the Cow game or every other program.

668
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: They always say about Nick Saban, you could knock on

669
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: the door at three am and someone's there to let

670
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: you in. And the one thing I've heard about Oregon

671
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: and Dan Lanning, where does he come from? Kirby Smart,

672
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: who's a knick NFL operation. You go to their practice

673
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: last year, you go to their practice this year. It

674
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: looks the same same thing. With Washington, it's a very

675
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: consistent place. And I think sometimes in this transfer world,

676
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: and I've talking to a lot of scouts that go

677
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: to these practices, They're like, you never know what you're

678
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna get from year to year. Think about Pete Carroll's

679
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: in their heyday or Chip Kelly or hardball. The same

680
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: group of players were there three to five years. Right,

681
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: So the rivalry the Notre Dame game mattered well, Listen,

682
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean I would have signed Lincoln Riley too, But

683
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley is a Texas guy, right, It's where he's from,

684
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Oklahoma that the USC Notre Dame rivalry means

685
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of people, but to him

686
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: that you know, does it to Caleb? Does it mean

687
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: the same? You saw Oregon, Washington some of those players

688
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: and listen, they got transfers too. But where does think

689
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: about bo Nicks? What's he used to rivalry Alabama Auburn?

690
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Like it me?

691
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: He played and listen, he had some flaws yesterday, but

692
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: I was impressed just with his effort.

693
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: Obviously. Why all the kids in that game, to.

694
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: Me, USC kind of tapped out, they kind of laid down.

695
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Same thing with Colorado and that's what's happened sometimes what

696
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: happened to the NBA kind of became a mercenary league.

697
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: People don't care as much. Right when you get players,

698
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: you get fifty three transfers. You know you lose a

699
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: game when you're up twenty nine to nothing to Colorado,

700
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: do you have no business losing at home? I mean

701
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: that was let's face it. Obviously the kid the wide

702
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: receiver made an incredible catch on the back of Travis Hunter.

703
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: But still that's a bad loss to me. Forty eight

704
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: to twenty column forty eight.

705
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: It's one thing to lose.

706
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: Listen, Oregon lost, you hang your head high, USC, that's

707
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: that's an indictment on the program.

708
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think to your point is when you

709
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: have a kind of a talent infusion, the danger of

710
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: the transfer portal is that. That's why Colorado was show

711
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: shocking to all of us that they were good in

712
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: week one and efficient. We're like, but over the course

713
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: of time, you know, you can go with friends, five

714
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: or six friends on the road trip and it works

715
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: for two days. Ten days later, y'all hate each other. Right,

716
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: It's like there's something about family and I feel like

717
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: when I went to Washington Oregon. I feel like there

718
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: was so much depth in the programs. The players care,

719
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: they're crying, they care so much, they're so into everything,

720
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: fight song on and Washington and Oregon have transfers, but

721
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: USC is like a transfer program. Yeah, And I think

722
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: the longer the season goes on, their O line play

723
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: gets worse. They don't tackle, they don't run the football consistently.

724
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: I don't blame it all on Caleb. He's running for

725
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: his life. They can't. I mean, it's just he has

726
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: to be a superhero.

727
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: But that doesn't that speak to Like, Let's use the

728
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: NFL as an example right now. If Patrick Mahomes has

729
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: a bad game, Andy and Veach have built the team

730
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: they can win. Today Purty barely throws for one hundred yards.

731
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: The Niners are in the game. The Browns they're missing

732
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback.

733
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: Can't compete.

734
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: Part of building a team, right when you're quarterback he's

735
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: human being. Now he was really bad, but when he

736
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: has a bad game, can you compete? And they couldn't

737
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: even I mean they weren't even close, right were the

738
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: other two programs for example, like Washington Oregon could have

739
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: a down game from their quarterback and definitely still compete.

740
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: The running backs really good. There are other playmakers defensively

741
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: to me, Dan Lanning and Kaylan du Bor. I've been

742
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: saying this for a while. You can see the Kaylan

743
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: du boor thing coming from a mile away Ohio. Now

744
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: they're going in the Big ten. He's gonna be placing

745
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: these big programs. Ryan Day loses to Michigan again, the

746
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: rumbling start. That's a guy that some of these big programs,

747
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: not that Washington isn't, but they've never had those one

748
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar coaches yet. Maybe it's time. But the

749
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Ohio states of the world are gonna start looking at

750
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: him when you win games like that. I mean, that

751
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: guy's a star. Dan Lanning's pretty damn good too.

752
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: But Oregon pays yeah well Phil Knight, Yeah, OK, check book.

753
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know it's a lot of people didn't

754
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: like the conference realignment, and but I got news for you.

755
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: If you give me Oregon Washington every year, the big

756
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: dogs will still play. If you give me USC UCLA

757
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: at the city championship, I don't need USC to play

758
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: the regional you know, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State.

759
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: So it was I like college football in person better

760
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: than I like the NFL. I will say it was

761
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: a national TV game, so there was a lot of

762
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: TV timeouts and you're sitting there, Thank God, Lake is

763
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: so beautiful. So when you have nine minutes, you know,

764
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: you're knocking down a beer. You're looking at the crowd,

765
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: and you're looking at the you know, the water.

766
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think to me, he's a version,

767
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: a bigger version of Tua. The one thing with a

768
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: player like Penn very interesting. The only thing that makes

769
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: me a little nervous, like with Tua, is the lack

770
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: of mobility in the modern day game with I mean,

771
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: we see how many sweet defensive linemen are all over

772
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: the NFL because he throws the ball as beautiful as

773
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna find, and any level it's just can't he

774
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: move well enough?

775
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: But how is he not going to be a top

776
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 3: ten pick?

777
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I think I couldn't come up with

778
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: a comp that's probably probably it A bigger, stronger, more

779
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: of a power thrower to a he throws a gorgeous ball,

780
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: not really gonna move much tough that's a and has

781
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: By the way, he had two a cl tears in Indiana,

782
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: So he's got an injury history. That's a really good comp.

783
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: I thought bow Knicks was Derek Carr. Michael Pennix is

784
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: a bigger, a stronger to That's a really good comp

785
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is, and that means really Yeah.

786
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: He was getting peppered there in the middle of the game.

787
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: The scouts love, you know, he was barely getting up,

788
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: but he just kept getting back under center, kept getting

789
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: a shotguns like, Ah, this guy's tough. I mean, you know,

790
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: he's tough obviously battling back from the acl injuries. But

791
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of a game with that many people watching,

792
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Oregon was playing fantastic. He just

793
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: that guy was relentless. And and to me, the Dan

794
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: Landing going for it in the middle of the field,

795
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: the momentum you give another team when you turn it

796
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: over on downs, you just give them life, you know.

797
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: And to me, so it's a double whammy. It's one

798
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: you give them the ball back in the middle of

799
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: the but you also the excitement that goes to that

800
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: other sideline. And I understand it's his mo to be

801
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of brain and stallyish, but in that spot, you

802
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: would really dominated the second half. Just make him go

803
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: eighty five yards well.

804
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: And I also think Dan his brand, if he has one,

805
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: is an aggressive guy. You know, he'll taught people on

806
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: social smoke, the cigar, the pregame speech, and so it's

807
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: hard when you're an aggressive guy and you preach that

808
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: and you get into that moment, Hey, we're punting right,

809
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: It's like it's his brand. Whereas Caitlin de Boor is

810
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: very humble, very under the radar about the players. He

811
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: reminds me a lot of Chris Peterson. And you know

812
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: Peterson is behind the scenes. So they got de Boor

813
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: and then Chris Peterson's right behind the scenes, and they

814
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: I think they took their ops guy from like Michigan.

815
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: They spent like seven figures on him. I think I'm

816
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: right there. So let me tell you something. Washington's got money.

817
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: They may not have Phil Knight money, but they've got

818
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: they got money, and they're gonna have to start saving

819
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: their pennies because Klen de Bor is gonna get big

820
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: time offers. And Washington may not be Ohio State or Michigan,

821
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: but they are in that somewhere between like seven to

822
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: twelve program where Environment history. I don't know where Oregon's probably,

823
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, Washington's got the natty. Oregon doesn't. You can

824
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: look at Oregon, go Phil Knights the program, or it

825
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: never exists. Washington was great with Don James. They were

826
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: good with Jim Owen, Don James, Rick Newheisel, pretty good

827
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: with Sark, Chris Peterson, now Kaitlyn de Bor. Like Washington

828
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: is like Ohio State, maybe a little lesser that when

829
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: they get the right coach, they win nine ten games

830
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: and they're in, They're in the playoff picture, and this

831
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: team's good. They're good.

832
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you and me or West Coast guys.

833
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Meanwhile, Wisconsin Iowa are playing like a

834
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: two nothing game. The Big Ten is lucky to add

835
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: those two programs. They made the right decision. Obviously, USC,

836
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: UCLA and no brainer. But those two programs better right

837
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: now than USC clearly on the football field. But that's

838
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: those brands, and that beside Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State,

839
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: they fit right in and honestly, on any given week

840
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: they could beat them as well.

841
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

842
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I've gone to a lot of Husky games

843
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: and driving windy rainstorms. UCLA may struggle with a weather

844
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: transition Washington, Oregon or not No, John Middlecoff The volume

845
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: three and out.

846
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Good see anybody, Thanks Golling, have a good week. The

847
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: volume