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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we can't

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, March twentieth, and on today's show, we'll get

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Speaker 1: hockey reporter Nicole Hasey about all things women's college hockey.

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Speaker 1: She breaks down this weekend's frozen four matchups, talks the

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Speaker 1: finding a needle in a sixty four team haystack, a

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be a goldfish to forget these results.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up right after this Welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Here's what you need to know today. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the WNBA and a few additional takeways that

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Speaker 1: Also from the Athletics, starting in twenty twenty seven, players

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Speaker 2: conversations haven't changed in those twenty years. So it's like goodness.

433
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Speaker 2: At some point you have to stop.

434
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Speaker 1: You're saying that the audience doesn't know enough to elevate it,

435
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: but if you never try to elevate it, they won't

436
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Speaker 1: know more. And there's a certain respect for audience where

437
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 1: you can bring them along with you and make sure

438
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Speaker 1: you're doing your best to simplify it in a way

439
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Speaker 1: that they'll get. But also they'll get up to the

440
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Speaker 1: standard of what you're talking about if they're interested, and

441
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Speaker 1: they don't have a chance to if you don't try,

442
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: which can be frustrating for sure. Okay, So Frozen four

443
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: gets Underweagh this weekend. Penn Status host semi finals on Friday,

444
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: championship game on Sunday. So semi final number one. We

445
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: got number one Ohio State versus number five Northeastern, and

446
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 1: give us a little scouting report on each of those teams.

447
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 2: Sure, Ohio State obviously number one team going in. They

448
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: Wisconsin was the number one team for more than a

449
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: year in the polls, and when Ohio State beat Wisconsin

450
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: in the conference championship game they played in the WCCHA,

451
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: they became the number one team, so they took over

452
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: in the polls and the NPI, which is the math

453
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: that NCAA uses to rank the teams. Led by Joy Dunn,

454
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: obviously olympian, also Hill de Spenson, who is a Swedish Olympian.

455
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: She's probably going to be Brookie of the Year. She

456
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: was wha Rookie of the Year. She leads all rookies.

457
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: I think she's second in points despite having missed a

458
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: bunch of games because she was at the Olympics for rookies,

459
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 2: and she's seventh among all skaters as a rookie. Just

460
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: really having an amazing breakout season. Their goalie they have.

461
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: Ohio State has often played two goalies rode a season,

462
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: and this year Haley McLeod has taken the whole season

463
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: and so she set a bunch of records. So she's

464
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: been really good and interesting. But yeah, they are, you know,

465
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: they're a powerhouse. They have played for the last four

466
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: national championships. Wisconsin and Ohio State have won the last

467
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 2: several national championships, and Ohio State lost in heartbreak like

468
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: last year's national championship game is one of the best

469
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: hockey games I've ever watched in my life. And Ohio

470
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: State was winning until the final couple seconds, took a penalty,

471
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: gave up a penalty shot, and then lost in overtime.

472
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: And that's a team that prides itself like they are

473
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: able to motivate by having a little chip on their shoulder.

474
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: That would be the case anyway, and then they lost

475
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: in heartbreaking fashion, and so that has I'm back for

476
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: the things yeah all year long, right, And so beating

477
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: Wisconsin in that championship game and then taking the top

478
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: number one seed, I think it is definitely a motivating

479
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: factor for them. They had probably the team that adapted

480
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: the most to the Olympians being gone. It was kind

481
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: of didn't skip up eat And they're the team that

482
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: was the most short handed. They were skating looked like

483
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: four or five defenders and eight forwards. Just crazy numbers, uh,

484
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: And they are incredibly disciplined and their fitness is crazy.

485
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: So they were gonna be like that anyway. And then

486
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: like being so shorthanded, they play really aggressive for check.

487
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: They put a lot of pressure on they take away

488
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: time and space, and they're going to force you to

489
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: make mistakes. As for Northeastern, they obviously upset Minnesota last

490
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: week and which was a huge They went into Minneapolis

491
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: to get that win, scored four unanswered goals and ended

492
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: up being four two, but Minnesota scored twice on the

493
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: power play towards the end of the game, and Northeastern

494
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: went in there and just dominated. I thought it was

495
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: a really impressive showing for them. This is their fourth frozen.

496
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Fourth they have an amazing goalie, Lisa Johnson, who is Swedish.

497
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: She's six foot tall, she's got a you know, one

498
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: point sixty one goals against the average, and just really good.

499
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: They have the Hockey East Rookie of the Year and

500
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Player of the Year and strikers, a blockie, and just yeah,

501
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: they really were a team that came into this season

502
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: not not necessarily on the radar. They had kind of

503
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: down year last year and they just kind of took

504
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: care of business this year and so they're definitely on

505
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: a roll. And I think I'm just not sure what

506
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: we'll see from them, but I'm excited to see how

507
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: they match up.

508
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Striker is a blockie of Saskatchewan. Is definitely tournament

509
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: all name team like two good.

510
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely and she has siblings with amazing there's like a

511
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 2: steal and yeah, the whole family has spectacular names. But

512
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: I think Striker won.

513
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I need to look up the rest of the names.

514
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

515
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we will not to be watching Alessia on Northeastern.

516
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: We'll also of course be watching Striker is a blockie

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: of Saskatchewan. Okay, semi final number two. We got number

518
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: two Wisconsin versus number three Penn State. Little scouting report

519
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: on those teams.

520
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Sure, Penn State has Tessa Janicky. Penn State is hosting,

521
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: but this is a new site, Like they were named

522
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: as a host four years ago, and Penn State has

523
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: basically worked. They've hosted the tournament four years ago, were

524
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: not a top ranked team at the time, and basically

525
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: have done everything to make sure that they were in

526
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: this tournament when they were hosting it again. They play

527
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: in a somewhat less competitive conference. They've dominated that conference,

528
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: but their win to get to the Frozen Four was

529
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: their first ever NCAA win. So they've made the tournament

530
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: a few times but just hadn't gotten over that hurdle.

531
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: So this is just a huge step for them. Tessa

532
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: is all world, she's a finalist for the Pattyksmeiers Topitty

533
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: Final List, but she's also gotten a lot more help

534
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: over the years, and I think it's a conversation about

535
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: sort of like raising the level of play across the board, right,

536
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: So it's not just what she's done, and they did

537
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: plenty fine without her there. Grace Outwater, I think led

538
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 2: the league in points, and they have some really great

539
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: defenders Danika Maynard and Kendall Budsky. So it will be

540
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: for them about they don't play top ten teams in

541
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: their conference, whereas teams like Ohio State and Wisconsin are

542
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: playing each other, you know, and playing other ranked teams.

543
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: To Penn State just doesn't get to do that, and

544
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: so there will be an abrupt sort of jump for

545
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: them into this game. In the Wisconsin defending national champions,

546
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, four gold medalists, and then you know,

547
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: a player we expected to be on Team USA was

548
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: Lacey Eden and then she did not get named to

549
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: the Olympic team, and she definitely took that personally and

550
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: really led the Badgers well.

551
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: And the nation right scoring leader.

552
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 2: Exactly now leads the country within scoring with I think

553
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: it's seventy two points. But also they have Caroline Harvey,

554
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: you know, also a Patty Hast got three finalists averages

555
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: two points a game, is a defender, one of only

556
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: two players that out wages two points a game, Abby

557
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: Murphy being the other. But you know, also Christin Simms

558
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: is fifth in the country and scoring. Cassie Hall's tenth

559
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: in the country and scoring. Kelly Gorbatengo, who's a name

560
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: that nobody outside college hockey knows, is one of the

561
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: top goal scorers in the country. Like, there's just a

562
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: depth there that a few other teams can match. And

563
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: then they also have had Ava McNaughton, who was, you know,

564
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: the third string goalie for the Americans. So yeah, they're

565
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, looking to go back to back. They that

566
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: team feels like they missed out going back to bed

567
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: because they lost one oo too Ohio State, and so

568
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: that's been their sort of drive oving this year. But

569
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: they're losing that's a major senior class. So this for

570
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: them is like the song you mentioned.

571
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: Kelly Gorbatanko had a hat trick in the Semis, which

572
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: was her second hat trick on the season, and you're right, like,

573
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: she's still not even top of the list for that

574
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: team of their weapons, but she's really fantastic. I wanted

575
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: to mention for Penn State. You mentioned how they are

576
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: getting like a home game even though it was technically

577
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: a neutral site. It's their first Frozen Four. Yeah, they

578
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: would be the fifth team to get to win it

579
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: at home. They're seventeen and one at home, so what

580
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: a great opportunity for a team to make their first

581
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: Frozen Four when it is the potential for a little

582
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: home ice bump. And I also wanted to talk about

583
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: their defense because you mentioned that they don't play as

584
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: many great teams, so this probably is, you know, a

585
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: contribut to this fact. But they allow the fewest goals

586
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: in the nation. Their goaltender has the most shutouts in

587
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: the nation, so they are, you know, potentially a team

588
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: that could really just shut it down defensively and try

589
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: to hang on and get get a rogue goal and

590
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: maybe surprise. Yeah.

591
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't think this is an easy game for

592
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Wisconsin By any means. I do think that the depth

593
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: is going to be the factor of that. I think,

594
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, if you see scoring from Wisconsin's third or

595
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: fourth line, that's that's trouble for Penn State. But I think,

596
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: you know, particularly top line to top line. Again, I

597
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: think the speed of the game will be something there,

598
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: and I think that you just it's very difficult to

599
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: prepare for that. It's something Quinnipiac said, which is who

600
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Wisconsin bets to get to this point in their their quarterfinal,

601
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: just like you can't. You can't prepare for that. There's

602
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: no way to practice to get you used to it.

603
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: And so if you are used to time and space,

604
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: which is when you get to make the pretty plays

605
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: and the good passes and find your lanes and all

606
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, if you don't get any of that,

607
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: you have to you have to be able to rely

608
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: on your instincts and still play the type of game

609
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: you want. And so you know, Wisconsin's going to want

610
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: possession and Penn State and Tessa is one of the

611
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: best face off takers in the country, Like they're going

612
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: to try and keep the pup from them, and that's

613
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: going to be the key. If Penn State's going to

614
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: win this game.

615
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned Wisconsin has been killing it last few years,

616
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State have been These have been the two teams

617
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: they've won the last six NCAA titles combined, Wisconsin four

618
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: from Ohio State two of them, and they've gone head

619
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: to head in the last three. You mentioned last year

620
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: it was Kristen Simms who got the penalty shot, raised

621
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: her hand for it and said, I want this shot.

622
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: I want to be the one with the pressure on,

623
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: and then also goes on to get the game winner

624
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: and overtime. It was a crazy game. What is it

625
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: about this rivalry if we do end up seeing those

626
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: two in the final again, what is it about those

627
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: two teams? And what would we want to watch for

628
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: Sunday in that matchup if it happens.

629
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: What Ohio State did really well in the WHA championship

630
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: game two weeks ago, which you know, that's the great

631
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: thing about this is they play each other so much

632
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: like there's no secrets between these teams. The coaches like,

633
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: it just ends up kind of being a chess match

634
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: and it's who makes the right move when. But Ohio

635
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: State puts so much pressure on and so even though

636
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: that's a thing that Wisconsin does and they're used to.

637
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: They're a team that's used to being controlling the puck

638
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: and controlling the game, and so when you've got sort

639
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: of those two forces hitting each other, it's who adjusts.

640
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: In the end, it does not end up being pretty

641
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: hockey necessarily because neither of them is allowed to play

642
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: the game they want to play. So it's who handles,

643
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, sort of the constant shippiness of like lifting

644
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: sticks and you know, fifty to fifty battles and bouncing

645
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: pucks and all that sort of stuff. And I just

646
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: thought Ohio State was so cool, calm and collected, and

647
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: they pushed Wisconsin off balance, and so I think that's

648
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: really the key is is sort of who handles the

649
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: spreat pressure and the spotlight. It's an interesting situation just

650
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: because Ohio State has all this pressure on themselves to

651
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: like make up for last year, but the Badgers have

652
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: that huge senior pass that they want to send out

653
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: on top, and so yeah, I think what you would

654
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: be looking for is who has possession and how Wisconsin

655
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: likes to be fast through the middle, particularly like they

656
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: want to move through that neutral zone so fast and

657
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State was stepping to them and really stopping them

658
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: from moving with any speed or getting anything going. And

659
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: so that's sort of what you're looking for. If they're

660
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: doing that and Wisconsin's not adjusting, which they should be

661
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: able to do, and they didn't, and so like that's

662
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: kind of concerning, right, Like you knew this was coming.

663
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: So if you see that, I think that is in

664
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Ohio State's favor. And if the Badgers are sort of

665
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: moving the puck around them, And the thing I always

666
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: like to say to people about women's hockey is like

667
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: it's sort of the purest form of hockey and that

668
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: like it's still physical, but you're not just blown up

669
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: a guy to get them off the puck in the

670
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: center ice, right, So like it's very finesse. It's a

671
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: very finesse game. Like they're passing, they're skating, you know,

672
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: right around people that make them look like they're seeing still.

673
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: So if Wisconsin is getting those passes in and really

674
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: like sort of weaving the puck around, then that that

675
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: means things are going well for them.

676
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: We talked about Penn State hosting. It's the second time

677
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: they're getting this frozen four. Last time in twenty twenty two,

678
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: attendance wasn't great. Hopefully that'll be different now that Penn

679
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: State is in the mix. But do you have any

680
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: sense of why they got this uh hosting bid again?

681
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: It is a great facility, you just like cannot deny. Like,

682
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: Pegula is a really great arena and it's a good

683
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: size for it. Just generally we don't get huge crowds

684
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: in women's hockey. The NCAA says that your building has

685
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: to hold life. It's either four thousand or forty five hundred,

686
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: and Ritter Arena in Minnesota is below that, but gets

687
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: like grandfathered in because there's just only so many places

688
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: and like you don't want to play in it, Like

689
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: the col Center at Madison has is like eighteen thousand.

690
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: You don't want to play in that, right, So there's

691
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: only a certain number of arenas that just fit the mold.

692
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Pegula is a great arena. It's unfortunate

693
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: that it's so difficult to come to Penn State formost everybody, right,

694
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: like it's kind of in the middle of nowhere. But yeah,

695
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: I think it was a great and particularly in sort

696
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: of these non revenue sports, the NCAA prioritizes the student experience,

697
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: and I think the student experience was very good. The

698
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: facilities are great. They're not putting seven different buildings and

699
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: having to walk all over the place, Like there's enough

700
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: locker rooms. Everything they need is right there. And so yeah,

701
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: I wish that. You know, there's a lot of things.

702
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: I could have a whole episode just telling you about

703
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: what I think the Frozen forties on the women's side,

704
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm hoping. I just the attendance hasn't been great,

705
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: and you know, attendants wasn't great for their quarterfinal that

706
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: they hosted. Yeah, I just I wish they don't make

707
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: it easy to get to and then there's not associated

708
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: fan events, Like there's no fan fest, there's no clinics,

709
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: there's nothing like that, and so to like get your

710
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: family to come to stay college is difficult, and then

711
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: there's nothing here for you. So it does make it difficult.

712
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Something to start working on in that space. Let's talk

713
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: quickly the Patty Casmier Memorial Award. It's given annually to

714
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the top player in women's college hockey. It's going to

715
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: be awarded on Saturday. You did extensive interviews with a

716
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: bunch of players in the running for this, So you're

717
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: truly a Patty Kaz expert. Were you a voter this year?

718
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: I was yes, okay, great. So it's funny they say

719
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: finalists and then they narrow them down and label them

720
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: finalists again. But there were like ten finalists and now

721
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: there are three final finalists that are at Caroline Harvey

722
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: University of Wisconsin, Tessagiani Gia, Penn State, and Abbe Murphy

723
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: University of Minnesota. We talked about two of them that

724
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: will be in this Frozen Four. Abby Murphy's Minnesota got

725
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: upset by Northeastern, so she's done. We saw all of

726
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: them for Team USA. Tell us what stood out to

727
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: about them during the NCUBA season that maybe was different

728
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: than what we saw at the Olympics.

729
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, Caroline Harvey is probably the best

730
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: defender in the world, so I guess you know that

731
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: probably tells you how I feel about this. But I

732
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: just I think there is KK changed the way that

733
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: people are going to recruit and what they're going to

734
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: expect from defenders in the women's game. Like just full on,

735
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: there are coaches in every rink right now looking for

736
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: the next KK. Just the skill set the wide variety

737
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: that you don't Everyone focuses on what she can do

738
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: on offense, but she's an incredible defender. You kind of

739
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: just don't see it because it's very sort of like

740
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: casual and easy. But she can push forward because she

741
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: can recover and because she'll chase somebody down. So for KK, yeah,

742
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: I think it's just both this sort of like overall,

743
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: and she's been one of the best players for several

744
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: years and every year she finds something else to add

745
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: to her game. But yeah, she's the anchor for Wisconsin

746
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: and she's you know, we listed several players that are

747
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: in the tops and scoring and yet she's still one

748
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: of their biggest offensive threats. And I think too, you

749
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: cannot underestimate how much so KK and Layla Edwards are

750
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: basically best friends. They live together, and Laylah switching to

751
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: defense for Team USA very much was helped by being

752
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: best friends Layla and KK. So I just think, like

753
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: she's just a she's a tactician of the game, she

754
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: sees it really well. She's a great team she's a

755
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: great captain. So sort of all those little bits that

756
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: are maybe not so obvious off you know, if you're

757
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: just watching the game. Abby Murphy is the engine and

758
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: was the engine at Minnesota for several years. She got

759
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: more support in the last couple of seasons, so she

760
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: wasn't having to do it on her own. But the

761
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: thing about Abby is she was Everybody knows she's gonna

762
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: get the puck. They know that she's what she's gonna do,

763
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Like she's not. I mean, she's occasionally about to get

764
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: ridiculous moves, but like generally she's Her game hasn't changed

765
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: that much and you're still not stopping her. But I

766
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: think she just sort of elevated play with the Gophers

767
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: around her. And I think i'd say the same about

768
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 2: Tessa too. It's just for Tessa at Penn State. Penn

769
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: State wasn't a nationally raked program four years ago and

770
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: she came and it is not just the Tessa Janikee show.

771
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: So she has truly elevated the level of play of

772
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: everyone around her. And I think the intangible of what

773
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: it means to get, like what a player of that

774
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: caliber comes to a program that doesn't normally get top

775
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: caliber talent and hasn't And again, we're not that far

776
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: for removed from Penn State joining D one. They didn't

777
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: have a D one women's program not that long ago.

778
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: It's probably way longer than I remember it being, but

779
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: it's not that long. And so just what it means

780
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: to set a new standard for what is expected from

781
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: her teammates, from in the locker room, how you handle yourself,

782
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: you know, in every aspect of being a student athlete.

783
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I think is the thing that Tessa has done. And

784
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: then also is just obviously spectacular on the ice. Yeah,

785
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: I think all three of them. There's a lot of

786
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: intangibles that make them spectacular players beyond and also they're

787
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: really skilled on the ice.

788
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Right, you mentioned Tessa, like in the classroom everything else

789
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: we did talk about last year that the Patty cast

790
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: is supposed to take into account character and sportsmanship, who

791
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: you are other than just a hockey player. Abby Murphy

792
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: has developed a bit of a reputation for being a

793
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: dirty player, and not just talking about that filthy assist

794
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: that went viral a few months ago, talking about other things.

795
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Do you think that's held her back and Patty cass consideration,

796
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: either this year or last.

797
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Yes, having been in some of some conversations, you know,

798
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: I've I did two years since the committee. I was

799
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: not on last year, but I was on the two

800
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: years before that, so and then this year. There are

801
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: coaches that that matters more to than others, and so

802
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: it kind of just depends on who's on the committee

803
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: and how much they take that into consideration. I mean,

804
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: Tessa also has a ton of penalty minutes, and honestly,

805
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: that isn't something anybody really talks about. So and you know,

806
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: KK has a has a streak in her too. She's

807
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: a shieldbiger, a retributive on somebody as well. With Abby, Yeah,

808
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: I think it's you love to hate her, right, you

809
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: want her on your team, you don't want to play

810
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: against her. And it's not about the antagonism. It's the

811
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 2: it's the more dirty play that people are really concerned about.

812
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: And I think it just depends on for the voters

813
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: whether that's something that concerns them or not. And also

814
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: I would say that people I think to just think

815
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: her numbers have gotten better like her. She clearly has

816
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: worked to not be doing like she doesn't have hundreds

817
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: of minutes this year.

818
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: So I don't like, yeah, baby steps, Well, it sounds

819
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: like we know where your vote went for the Patty Caz.

820
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to give us a feeling that you

821
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: have for who's going to come out on top this year.

822
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to ask folks like you

823
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: for predictions, but you know, is there a gut feeling?

824
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: The most consistent team has been Ohio State. I think

825
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: if Wisconsin plays at their best, it is a point flip.

826
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: It's like going into a gold medal game with US Canada.

827
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: But they have had plenty of slip ups, and the

828
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: team that is consistently no matter who is on the ice,

829
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: no matter what injuries anything like that, has come out

830
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: and sort of done their business and played their game

831
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: through and through his Ohio State. So I think that

832
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: it's probably their game to lose. But I can't imagine

833
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: that if it comes down to Wisconsin and Ohio State

834
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: that we don't see over time and we don't eat

835
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: some more craziness. I think that Wisconsin steps up to

836
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: the plate right like you're in that position. You have

837
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: those players. I don't think you see the slip ups

838
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: we've seen some of the times. But yeah, I think, yeah,

839
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna yell that by I'm gonna get yelled at

840
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: by a ton of Wisconsin people. But I think it's

841
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: probably now you said coin flip, I think it's probably

842
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: Ohio state.

843
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: So you gave a little notch to Ohio State. But

844
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: fifty five, forty five or whatever, right, exactly, it's anyone's game.

845
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: We do love a coin flip, and we do love

846
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: some overtime. So here's hope and you're right. Thanks as always, Nicole,

847
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

848
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for having me.

849
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Nicole forgetting us all set for the weekend.

850
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: We have to take another break when we return. It

851
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: feels like a lifetime ago, but it's really only been

852
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Welcome Back Slices in honor of

853
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Women's History Month every Friday. This month, we're doing a

854
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: special edition of Take It Back Our SEGM that looks

855
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: back at legendary games, athletes, or origin stories. In honor

856
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: of the WNBA's new CBA, I want to take it back,

857
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: but not too far back, just to twenty twenty when

858
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: the WNBA and its Players Association were finalizing the last landmark, groundbreaking,

859
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: transformational CBA. I went back to read the official press

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Speaker 1: plus Quote premium economy class status for all players for

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Speaker 1: Quote individual hotel room accommodations for every player now. At

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Speaker 1: the time of its signing, this deal felt momentous, game changing,

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Speaker 1: But I probably didn't celebrate long enough or loud enough

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Speaker 1: they'd finally be getting paid what they're worth. I wanted more, sorry,

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Speaker 1: But as I was watching the stud buds talking about

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Speaker 1: was cracking up about Ali Shagree getting told she doesn't

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Speaker 1: take a moment to really soak in the magnitude of

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Speaker 1: this new deal. Friend of the show, Lesiah Clarendon, who's

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Speaker 1: a new co host on the No Offseason podcast, said

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Speaker 1: in Thursday's episode that the twenty twenty CBA got players

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Speaker 1: dignity and this one got them livelihood. That's legit, And

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Speaker 1: as I play the scene forward, dozens of women, many

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Speaker 1: only twenty twenty. We love that you're listening slices, but

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Speaker 1: So here's our good game play of the day, last

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Speaker 1: chance to get those brackets in. Also, if you want

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Speaker 1: those bracket selections, you can select to donate to my

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Speaker 1: annual campaign here the Cheers, which aligned this year's fundraiser

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Speaker 1: keep doing your slice work because we're loving all the

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth L. Wrote in a shout out her workplace, writing

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Speaker 1: to us, quote, the Women's Employee Resource Group started a

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Speaker 1: women's NCAA bracket contest two years ago. The ERG runs

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Speaker 1: the pool and gives prizes for the top three finishers.

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Speaker 1: There is no men's bracket work pool, only women's basketball,

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Speaker 1: as it should be end quote. Now this made producer

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Speaker 1: Alex especially happy because longtime listeners will recall her story

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Speaker 1: about the time the Women's Employee Resource Group at her

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Speaker 1: company made a bracket competition for the men's tournament, but

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Speaker 1: news super Slice, Aaron Ross sent a note sharing the

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Speaker 1: program at Simmons University, writing quote, I cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: that's more motivation. End quote. Aaron, this is incredible and

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Speaker 1: We just hope yours up to date on your homework

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Speaker 1: there as you are on your slice work here. We

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Speaker 1: It's easy watch news sites never having the need for

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Speaker 1: some very stylized WNBA lockout photos rating ten out of

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Speaker 1: ten unused sexy shots of a ball in chains review.

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Speaker 1: With the potential WNBA lockout looming, photographer James Black wanted

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Speaker 1: a series of stylized photos for news stories on the topic,

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Speaker 1: uploading about a dozen picks to Getty in October featuring

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Speaker 1: WNBA balls encircled by a padlock in chains. We're especially

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Speaker 1: obsessed with the one of a WNBA ball stuck MIDnet

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Speaker 1: with a lock blocking its path defectors my three to

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Speaker 1: nonth th Rahman, who's post on Blue Sky brought this

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Speaker 1: to our attention, wrote quote, the only downside of labor

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Speaker 1: piece is that we have no use for these beautiful images.

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Speaker 1: End quote too true. Apparently lockout photos are actually Black's

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Speaker 1: bread and butter. Back in twenty twenty two, he did

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Speaker 1: a series of photos with baseballs and bats under lock

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Speaker 1: and key for Major League Baseball's Lockout, and those beautiful

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Speaker 1: images did run. The Athletic actually did a feature on

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Speaker 1: Black's photos, which we'll link to in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, y'all, rate and review, Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you next week. Good game, Nicole, Good game, and

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Speaker 1: good luck tournament teams you. How is my bracket already busted?

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