1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: This is Seahawks Stories fiftieth season edition presented by Emerald 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: City Athletics. Seahawks Stories fiftieth season edition is presented by 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Emerald City Athletics. Joining me now, Chris Matthews and the 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: game that we have to talk about, the game that 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: you want to talk about, it's the NFC Championship game 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, that was a good game, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: because that's the game you must be talking about most 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: often in your career. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolute. Every time I look up, they're like, man, 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: you're the reason why Seahawks went to the super Bowl, 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know, but yeah, I played 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: a part. I'll just say that I played a part. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay, So I've never asked you this. 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: So we had many conversations in the locker room and 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: always a favorite, but that game, I've never once asked 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: you how the ball bounced, what your responsibility was which 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: you thought was going to happen, and what actually happened 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: in that game. 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a load of question, I would say. For me, 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: I was, first off, I was nervous as I don't 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: know what right. It was a big game. They were saying, 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: we need this ball. We need this ball. And my 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: whole thought process was I need to get my man. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: If I could just get my man and take him out, 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: I know Cam will do everything else that's behind us. Right, 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: And as we were going and the ball was kicked, 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: I was late. I'm sure you've heard that before. I 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: was laid off the line because I was again, like 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: I said, I was nervous. And once I got to 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: my man, I seen him jumping up for the ball 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I got to hit him. That's 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: what I was staking in my head. Afterwards, I was like, 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I gotta hit him. I gotta get a good hit. 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: And then the ball just it just popped out of 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: his arms. I'm like, what's going on. I just reached 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: out for the ball. And after I caught the ball, 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: I was ready to go. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: When you practice that, what do you practice the ball 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: doing because it's not popping up in the air. 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: What do you practice for? 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: Well, what I practiced for was going to go get 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: my man. Are the line is supposed to take the 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: front guys out and then we let Cam Chancellor go 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: on the back and take the ball away. Right. He's 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: the strongest, the fastest that we had right there. At 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: that time, so you know, he was the chosen. 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: One, okay to have Cam and quite honestly, any of 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: those starters who wanted to play special teams. 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: We all did. 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that changes the dynamic of special teams when 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you have starters like Cam for sure, and also like 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: all of those guys, Doug, Jermaine, they all wanted to 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: play special teams, right, Yes, how does that change meetings 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: with special teams? 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, I would say it's very important. It was something 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: that we took very serious, you know, And of course 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: I was always thinking about how can I get on 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: the field, how can I play on offense? There was 59 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: just so much that was going on my mind. And 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: I remember Jermaine and Doug they both came to me 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: and it was like listen, bro, like, you have to 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: play special teams. That's the way. That's the way you're 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: going to get onto the offense. I'm like okay. And 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: then as I after he said that, I went back 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: and I started sitting sitting down and watching film with 66 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: the with Coach Sanders and all of the guys, and 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: they used to show me all the clips of Doug 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: bowl and blocking punts, your main returning kicks it was 69 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: so much that was going on. 70 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: Tyler wanted to be the return guy. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so much that was going on. I 72 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: was like, well, how am I any better than any 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: of these guys? Right? So I was like I wanted 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: to I want to do exactly what it took to 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: get on the field, and then it worked out for me. 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: So you win that game. That was a freaking awesome game. 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: I remember being on the sidelines talking to one of 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: our PR guys being like, it doesn't matter. We didn't 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: need to go back to the Super Bowl, Like we 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: don't need to go to Arizona. 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: And then we. 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Make because we're trying to like make ourselves feel better 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: And then this comeback happens and. 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: We're like like, let's freaking go right, Like we're going. 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: To level now. 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: The intensity between winning the NFC Championship game and the 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl the game itself, not the outcome, the game itself. 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: How would you describe that? 90 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: Uh? I would say it was relaxed, to be real 91 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: with you, because Pete Carroll, he was a big proponent 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: on plage. I mean practice like the way you would play, right, 93 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: So we wanted to practice like champions I mean, we 94 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: want to play like champions, So we practiced that way. 95 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: So everything that we did it was full speed. It 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: was competition. You know. We may not have been not 97 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: going out there knocking people out or anything like that, 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: but it was definitely a competition to get out there. 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: Kim gets hurt the day before, two days before the 100 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. How did that change? Yeah? How did that 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: change the vibe? It did things in the game. 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: It didn't, honestly, And I'll tell you this. I don't 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: know if Cam remembers, but we were walking to practice, right, 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: I think he was the third day we were there. 105 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: We were walking to practice, and I don't know what 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 2: it was, but we were just walking and I seen 107 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Cam and I'm walking next to him. We're talking. I'm like, Bro, 108 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: I just want to let you know, Bro, I got 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: your back. Like I got your back, bro, no matter 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: what goes on in this game, I got your back. 111 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: And that's honestly. He looked at me like yeah, okay, 112 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: and then you know, he kind of like kept going 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: on with his conversation with be Wags, but then he 114 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: looked back at me again. He was like, I appreciate that, man, 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And we wapped it up and then 116 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: we kept it going and went on to practice, and 117 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: that was my first time meeting Snoop Dogg. He came 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: out to practice and I'm like, oh, okay, like, yeah, 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: I like this place. I like this I liked I 120 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: like feeling like a winner. 121 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 122 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: And you know, honestly, like I said, nothing really changed 123 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: after you know, after his you know, his little minor 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: energy injury, but because we had so many people out 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: there that was ready to play, ready to step up, 126 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: and we had this thing, you know, it was a brotherhood. 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: And I know that you know that word is you know, 128 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: loosely thrown around in the NFL, But honestly, that was 129 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: probably one of the one of the times in my 130 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: whole career I'm talking about from Little Pop Warner all 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: the way up to now, that was probably one of 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: the teams that actually really felt like it was a brotherhood. 133 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: And we still keeping contact still to this day. 134 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so you get a few minutes into the game, 135 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: you get a quarter into the game, you get a 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: half into the game, you realize you're not going to 137 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: be able to finish with the guys you started. What 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: was the message at halftime at the Super Bowl, keep. 139 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Going no matter what. We got to figure out how 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: to how to win. And that was the biggest thing 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: that was going on in in our in our group 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: as wide receivers, we were all just like, hey, you 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: gotta find a way. Job's not over with. You know. 144 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: It felt like, you know, it felt good to uh 145 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: to find a way, right because we were making our 146 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: head after that second half and you know, unfortunately things, 147 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, things didn't fall in our way. But to 148 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I don't think anybody in the 149 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: locker room on the offensive side held their heads down. 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: I truly believe that. I feel like we all felt 151 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: like we gave it all we had and you know, 152 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: the ball just didn't swing all way at that time. 153 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that last drive in just 154 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: a second, but right now, this NFL season. 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: Feel every play, every hit, every moment. 156 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: With Sony one thousand and XM five noise canceling headphones, 157 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: the official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. With Premium noise cancelation, 158 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: you were in the zone, no distractions, just pure football, 159 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: whether you were in your living room or on the go, 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: you will never miss a beat With Sony headphones. I 161 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: was talking to Justin Brett and he said, final series, 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: break the huddle. 163 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: You have no doubt that you're going to score. 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't matter which play, and he did not reveal 165 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: what the actual play call was. 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: He just said we're going to score. So what happens 167 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: on that final play? 168 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I really don't know. I 169 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: know the play by heart, but if nobody is telling it, 170 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: I won't tell it. But I was on the sideline 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: and we had practice that play. I want to say 172 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: since week or we've been running that place since week four. 173 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: It was just different ways we ran it. So once 174 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: I heard it, it's like, okay, okay, like we can 175 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: get this done. We've we've we've pretty much went eighty 176 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: percent with that with that play. 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: So in practice, you've done with that play. 178 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: Yes, So it was like, okay, you know, I can 179 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: see where we're going right. Unfortunately, you know, they made 180 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: a play Malcolm Butler. You know, he did what he 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: was supposed to what he was supposed to do, and 182 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: you know, things just happened. But I would say this 183 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: if it wasn't if it wasn't for the hard work 184 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: that everybody put in. I don't even think we would 185 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: have been we would have even made it to that point. 186 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: We wouldn't even had a chance to get to that point. 187 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: And that's and that's where a lot of people don't understand. 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: Like I hear all the time, people are always talking, 189 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: why did you throw the ball on the one yard 190 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: Like why didn't you just give it to Mars Shawn Lynch? 191 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I understand, but are you what 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: would you do in the Super Bowl on the one 193 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: yard line and the clock is running down, you know, 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: everything is going on, and everything is going crazy, like 195 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: it was a lot going on. So you know, everybody 196 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: can coach from the sideline, you know, from their home, right, 197 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: but what would you do when you're actually in the game. 198 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: And I feel like we executed as best as we 199 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: could right there. That's what I was saying. 200 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: I've said many times. 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: Had that completion been the completion, it would have been 202 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: the greatest play call in the history of. 203 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: The and Pe Carol would have looked like a genius. 204 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: And he still is a genius. He still is a genius. 205 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: So I tipped my hat to that man. He gave 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: me opportunity. He's done so much for me, you know, 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: and I wish nothing but the best for him down 208 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: there in Las Vegas. 209 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: So when you think about the story of your career, 210 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: what's the one that you tell most often about your 211 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: time in Seattle. 212 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: I would say, to be honest with you, and it's 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: probably not going to be as glamorous or you know, surprising, 214 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: but it was when I first got there. When I 215 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: first got there, I want to say, it was Marshawan 216 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: and DJ Daniels and Doug Bowling and Jermaine. Those are 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: the four guys that came up to me and they 218 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: were like, Hey, don't come out here. Oh I'm sorry, 219 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't know if we curtisy, but we 220 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: can do that. 221 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: No, totally, we can do that. 222 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: Ye don't come out here playing around, like give it 223 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: your all. And that guy right there that was that 224 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: was my guy right there. That's my guy right there, Sydney. 225 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: But they were extremely helpful right in their own way. 226 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: And I would say my most memorable moment is us 227 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: all being able to sit down and talk amongst each 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: other like men and be able to you know, bounce 229 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: ideas off of each other, because that's one thing that 230 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: we all did together. We bounced ideas off of each other, like, Hey, 231 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: if we run this play, what do you think if 232 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: I was a hit the line this way? You know? 233 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: And there was things, you know, Marshawan and Doug Balmer 234 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: and all of us were totally two different positions, but somehow, 235 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: some way we found a way to make it work. 236 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: We just communicated. And like I said again, that brotherhood 237 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: I was talking about, it just it really stuck. It 238 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: really stuck home for me, and I can't think of 239 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: anything more important, more impactful than that time right there 240 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: when I first got into Seattle. 241 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I love that conversation. I love the insight because. 242 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: I have my own memories. That's not what today is about. 243 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: Today is about sharing one of the stories from fifty 244 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: seasons of Seahawks football. Absolutely, Chris Matthews, thank you so much, 245 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: You very much for having me. 246 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.