WEBVTT - Smooth as Stutter (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie)

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<v Speaker 1>I never needed to know a to lib quality thought

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<v Speaker 1>about anything other than a song with Mary J. Blize Dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think you was a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he made me a genius. Yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so smart. I listened to most Death any

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<v Speaker 1>rapper that Dave Chappelle allotted. I think he's in that genre, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think Common was a genius.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Common was Oh, you were a teacher and

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago. I know you're listening to Common.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and now he's doing fucking commercials for Microsoft to

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<v Speaker 2>you like.

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<v Speaker 1>This niggas an idiot. And I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>the old stuff was smart. It is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>important that we communicate. I don't know what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to tune the fate of this union to the right pitch. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just saying stuff, is saying stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>My chips in your.

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<v Speaker 4>Quals are racist, post the money then turning stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, it's the big show. There it is, there

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode

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<v Speaker 2>of My Mama Told Me.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>black conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>And we finally work to prove that. Joe Budden is

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<v Speaker 2>a prime example of what happens when your beard connects

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a rule.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to look at least like there are a

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<v Speaker 2>few patches in there. But that motherfucker connects too much

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<v Speaker 2>and it's getting to his brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lin Stinker, I'm David Bori, and I ain't blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I never even it's like the problems you

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<v Speaker 1>never even think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't want that much connection, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's so connected that, like, how could anything else

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<v Speaker 1>go right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, na, this is too full.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, we could argue that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>better beards around, but it ain't, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it it is in a technical sense, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a perfectly full beard. But then you look at it

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I don't want that, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like I don't want what he has.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I think, Okay, here's a couple of things about

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Budden's beard. I think, first of.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all, yeah, let's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe beard higher, very high, the most black men's beard.

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<v Speaker 1>Like his shit's like two inches away from his eyebrows. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if he winks it moves. Yeah, he looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>Willie Willie.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't want your beard that tall. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>tall tea of a beard.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also so manicured that I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch my words here as I come to

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<v Speaker 1>Steeve Bull.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, be careful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so well put together. And this is by the

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<v Speaker 1>grace of God. His genetics are his beard genetics are

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<v Speaker 1>so strong that I feel like it makes him look.

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<v Speaker 5>Foreign in a waw sure, listen, say no more, Say

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<v Speaker 5>no more.

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<v Speaker 2>I one agreed, Joe, Butden looks like an immigrant from

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<v Speaker 2>beard alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to place what that immigrant is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>certain I'm certainly not taking a stance on whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not that person belongs in this country. I am, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>welcoming that individual to this country. That is not the

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<v Speaker 2>stance I think we're taking. All we are saying is

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Budden very much looks like an immigrant to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States because of his beard.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like a cartoon character of an untrustworthy man.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like when when you get attacked by a person,

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<v Speaker 2>this is who you tell the police to draw from

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<v Speaker 2>memory so that you find that individual.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it is. It's Uncanny Valley where the

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<v Speaker 1>beard looks so good that you don't trust it is.

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<v Speaker 2>A polar express beard for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The lines are so shocked then you just like this

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<v Speaker 1>can't I don't know what I'm looking at. But it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's not that's not how people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like because And the weird thing is it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost got like a fat joke quality to his beard.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's like that's the beard that Fat Joe wants. That.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing is that I do think that Fat

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<v Speaker 2>Joe really worked hard for the beard that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>And while I don't care for it, I recognize that, like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a concerted effort to create this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's putting Beijing in it, He's really earned it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really trying to make that ship look a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas I think Joe Butden is cursed with yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he has.

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<v Speaker 1>That woman put that spell on him, that foreign woman

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<v Speaker 1>that he wronged, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't a far fet you think it was some Asian

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<v Speaker 5>girly dad what he was.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea that Joe Butden hasn't done dirt in the

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<v Speaker 2>Dominican fields.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy. Oh, I bet you there's some illegitimate buttons running

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<v Speaker 1>around the islands, just some little pretty Dominican boy who

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<v Speaker 1>can rap very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's some reason chooses not to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>rap it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. We were talking about this off air because the

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Budden conversations never stopped. I am a big joke

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<v Speaker 1>that guy can rap his asshole, he and rap his

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<v Speaker 1>ass off.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't appreciate any of his thoughts outside of hip hop,

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<v Speaker 2>but I genuinely am a big fan of the music.

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<v Speaker 2>He used to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Same mood music one through four. You know what, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Budden came to me at a time I needed a

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<v Speaker 1>sad rapper. I need a sad rapper. I needed a

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<v Speaker 1>rapper with some tissues. That also, you were like, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is sad in depression and he has addiction. Is yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's like that Venn diagram was not. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he invented that lane.

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<v Speaker 2>I I genuinely miss a point, the point where we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to hear the opinions outside of the rappers raps,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, where we just got the

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<v Speaker 2>raps and we didn't know anything about them otherwise, and

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<v Speaker 2>that ooh, what a satisfying thing that we used to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially because I think that you and I are probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the same vein where you remember that you when you

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<v Speaker 1>had rappers that you listened to to make people think

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<v Speaker 1>you were smart. M of course those are the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that we needed to hear less from. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>all when I was a teenager, and I have since

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<v Speaker 1>grown up to understand I am not that smart. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a whole genre of rappers who made you

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<v Speaker 1>feel smart, and those guys being exposed is maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>the smartest guys really, And then and then you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, fifty cents really smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's heartbreaking who you find out is actually like,

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<v Speaker 2>turns out turns out plies. That's a pretty thoughtful guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, No. Five I was like, bust it, baby, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to listen to the gy remix. It turns out plies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a fucking brilliant dude. Meanwhile, Loope has some

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<v Speaker 2>work to do, you know what I mean. Like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Loupe could truly run for Congress at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck man, it's it is, it's a it's a tragic

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<v Speaker 2>thing that that happened, but maybe a necessary thing. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that is part of growing up as you realize your

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<v Speaker 2>heroes are fallible the same way everybody else is.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I think that it means that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a dearth and we can sneak in and get some

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<v Speaker 1>of this fake, smart black money.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I will speaking to that.

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<v Speaker 2>We had that beautiful uh Vulture article uh huh that

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<v Speaker 2>was written about us, where the the author was very

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<v Speaker 2>generous in his explanation and breakdown of sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant work that we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We want your work that you're doing, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and David, BORI, if Lexton doesn't have well thought out

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<v Speaker 1>developed research, David comes in with his trusty Sound Bad

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<v Speaker 1>drink bomb. Sharkey presses a button and I know, I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the place I occupy. I'm wearing a Booty

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<v Speaker 1>Call T shirt right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gorgeous, it's so funny. It looks good man.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, not to say if we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a if you're gonna be a charlottetan, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather be a Charlatan who's pretending I'm smart as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to like, I'm not gonna pretend I kill people

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<v Speaker 1>or some ship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I want to reassure our audience that that no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what comes out about us, no matter what you

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<v Speaker 2>start to believe, let me reassure you we are idiots,

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<v Speaker 2>absolute fucking dumb dumbs. And and even if there are

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<v Speaker 2>parts of you that start to believe otherwise, you're wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and you need to reflect on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, it's like, because if you really pay attention,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been leading a breadcrimb trail the whole time like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the usual suspects. When he starts walking straight and

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that he is actually a smart man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite what I don't worry. Don't worry. The limp stays.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, write more articles about us. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice article.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lovely article, and we would love more

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And make sure you you call us both

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant next time, or at least acknowledge my man does

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<v Speaker 2>more than just press bingball on the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, no, they were they were nice to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how I interpret it because I'm a sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>be sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I get that. Yeah, yeah, we have an

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<v Speaker 2>email that we wanted to read today. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>very fun email.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is an exciting one.

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<v Speaker 2>From a person named Corey, A proud little mama. They

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<v Speaker 2>identify as.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Assume it's a he, but I don't know for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it's a she. Maybe it's a day. It

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<v Speaker 2>can be either one. I never met a girl, Corey.

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<v Speaker 1>You never met a girl, Corey. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>knew a girl named Cora.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure from the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not Maybe I'm thinking of Chorrel. What was

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<v Speaker 1>that little girl? No, that was Troy from Crookland. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Troy froyd boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that movie was sad. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just watched it. I'm a little embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 2>admit it, but I just watched it for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>like a week ago. Really, I had seen snippets. I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen clips and shit, but I never.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could keep up, Like I knew what the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of the film was, but I never sat and

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<v Speaker 2>watched the entire movie. And it starts off and you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this might be Spike Lee's just most uplifting, sweet film

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<v Speaker 2>about just a family with some odd characters, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it gets sad and sadder and then uncomfortable and then saddest.

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<v Speaker 1>But good movie. I love Alfrey Woods and Delroy Lindo.

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<v Speaker 2>Del Lindo, Baby, I don't, man, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think we talked about how good that guy is?

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<v Speaker 1>When did he mean? What's he ever missed?

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<v Speaker 2>Worst worst name in the game? And truly, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a phenomenal. It's it's hard to remember. I love

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<v Speaker 2>saying it, but it ain't. It ain't an easy one

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<v Speaker 2>when you want to recall your favorite actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think, man, if I was named

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<v Speaker 1>Delroy Lindo, this would be actually, this would be all different.

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<v Speaker 1>You think the podcast would be thriving. If my name

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<v Speaker 1>was Delroy Lindo, I would be a calib Qualiti style rapper.

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<v Speaker 2>You think we wouldn't even be podcasting. You think this

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<v Speaker 2>would just be a different wave. You think Delroy Lindo

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<v Speaker 2>has a podcast, I pray to god he does not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, now he doesn't need it. His name is

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<v Speaker 2>Delroy Lindo. He seems like he goes to bed in

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<v Speaker 2>long shirts. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>He feels like he seems like he wears every fab

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<v Speaker 1>brick except denim. That like, I think that has had

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of jeans since the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>And why Woody, that's why you can't even buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>When your name is del Roy.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's some shit that's about to fuck you up. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I looked him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, born in London, del Roy Lindo is British.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even our has he moved here when he was sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Del Roy Lindo. Whoa, I thought he was the blackest

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<v Speaker 2>man on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be black from London. Not. According to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it almost makes more sense if you think about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a British accent, like think about this. I was

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<v Speaker 1>hanging with my mike, Delroy right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it feels yeah, oh fuck, he really is British.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whoa? I wonder because they're they're they're better at

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<v Speaker 1>acting than us, so it kind of does make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Delroy Lindo my man.

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<v Speaker 1>But the son of Jamaican parents, which I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all could have guess as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, we knew there was Caribbean blood flowing through there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the man has been wearing mesh tank tops for

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<v Speaker 2>for forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we knew that was the Caribbean. He drinks

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<v Speaker 1>out of a fruit for He's drank out the fruit,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in the touristy way, just in the way

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<v Speaker 1>where it was hot out and he cracked up in

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<v Speaker 1>the fruit. Yeah, I feel like we go with Caribbean

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<v Speaker 1>people hard on his podcast. Sometimes I want people to

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<v Speaker 1>know I want to live in the Caribbean. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I'm a fan. When I lived in Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>I had some nasty runnings with Asians, but otherwise I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big fan of Caribbeans.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think they're the dominant community out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they moved the way they move and I move like

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<v Speaker 2>a nigga from Chicago, and that don't always Uh, that's complicated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't always get along when when you are of

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<v Speaker 2>two different worlds in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I know this shit was real because you did

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<v Speaker 1>not answer my question at all. Really Like the way

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<v Speaker 1>you answered was like there's specifics that you really don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into. That was crazy. When you start

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<v Speaker 1>blaming your city, that's when it's like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, and we all come from different

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<v Speaker 2>places and community is important.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, if you got beat up by some Atians.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say, no, I didn't get beat up by

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<v Speaker 2>any Haitians, but I didn't care for their personalities more

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<v Speaker 2>often than not when I was in Boston. But otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big van of Caribbeans across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciated culture.

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<v Speaker 2>We're calling upon you because we have we have new merch.

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<v Speaker 2>We have very exciting merch that we are now set

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's fucking great. We love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Just sleek, it's sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you want to tell them what we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien

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<v Speaker 1>dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we have the enamel pin with an alien who has

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<v Speaker 1>a coofie on it since my mama told me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama,

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<v Speaker 1>which is who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my

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<v Speaker 2>mama told me dot merch table dot com. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new name, but it's the same old merch and

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<v Speaker 2>we would love for you to get some if you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't got it already, and we want you to have

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<v Speaker 2>all the sweet stuff so get it. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>get to Corey's email. Ye, Corey sent an email and

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<v Speaker 2>the subject line this is a very exciting subject line.

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<v Speaker 2>It says tickling a baby equals stuttering adult question mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Already you're hooked, they said, Hey guys, relatively new listener,

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<v Speaker 2>but this has quickly become one of my favorite podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Your episode timing is perfect, as I have a long

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<v Speaker 2>ass commute on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Fuck yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where you're going, Corey, and frankly, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to chill the fuck out doing it every week.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's exciting. I'm glad that we're hitting when we

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<v Speaker 2>are supposed to hit for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad we can support your commute to both your families.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they don't find out via this podcast, but

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<v Speaker 2>we know what you're up to, Corey, and you gotta stop. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta pick one family and abandon the other kids.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just is the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give the other kids something to overcome, you know. Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, make yourself a Lebron James and then raise

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<v Speaker 2>a taj Mawori in the other house. He said to

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy I have a son that will oh. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a son that was about six months old at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of this event. I went to dinner with

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and my son was basically inconsolable during the dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted me, he wanted to be near his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime my mom tried to hold him, he would scream.

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<v Speaker 2>I told my mom that he was very ticklish. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>try to tickle him under his armpits to lower his guard.

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<v Speaker 2>She adamantly refused and said something to the extent of no,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't tickle babies or else they'll develop a stutter.

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<v Speaker 2>Then she proceeds to impersonate someone, saying, daddy with the

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<v Speaker 2>heavy stutter. I'll spare you the phanetics. No, that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>she did. I act out after saying some wild shit

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<v Speaker 2>at the dinner table in.

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<v Speaker 1>The red lobster. She's like the waiter, just standing there,

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<v Speaker 1>confused because the stuttering impression can easily sound like another

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<v Speaker 1>type of impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, it gets ugly fast if you don't if

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know what you're doing. He goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 2>have y'all heard anything like this before? I was hysterically

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<v Speaker 2>laughing because my mom always comes out of left field.

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<v Speaker 2>With new crazy shit. Sincerely, thanks for the laughs, Corey,

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<v Speaker 2>proud little mom man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I will. Let's say, first of all, Corey,

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<v Speaker 1>your mother hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mother might be prime for being a guest on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievably funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's she up there with Jay Sean. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest shit to do ever. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>If your mother is still with us, and I pray

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<v Speaker 2>that she is, please let her know we are big

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<v Speaker 2>fans of the work that she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Love what she's got going on. Man, that's oh so

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<v Speaker 1>many levels. That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard this before in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the first thing. I think that on an

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<v Speaker 1>animalistic level in my in my like animal caveman, stupid brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the science behind it, Okay, Like you shake

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<v Speaker 1>it too much and it's gonna stay shook. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm And like, do you ever remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a kid being tickled is so visceral that

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<v Speaker 1>like I like sometimes you know, you think back as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, like how hard you be laughing this year

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and it's like, yeah, that could have shook

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<v Speaker 1>shook something loose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I never thought about it in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>shaking something loose. But that is the part that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>hits the the most for me, is that like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about getting tickled so much that you stay tickled

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<v Speaker 2>as much as it is like something babies are are

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<v Speaker 2>fragile and and sort of like are not fully configurated

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<v Speaker 2>inside all the way. And the idea that you do

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<v Speaker 2>something so jarring to the physical form that it becomes

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<v Speaker 2>permanent feels like a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause it's like, also think about it, there's no other

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<v Speaker 1>form of affection or anything else that you do to

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<v Speaker 1>a kid that is that physically intense m you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like it's like very because so my

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<v Speaker 1>two brothers, this is really funny. My two brothers have

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<v Speaker 1>varied because I'm way older than them. I'm forty, so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew and when they were babies, my two brothers

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<v Speaker 1>have very different reactions. My one little brother like being

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<v Speaker 1>tickled too much, where I would be like, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to calm down, you know what I mean, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be going ape shit. I'd be like, you got this

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<v Speaker 1>is not good. This is like I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>creating some kind of a dependence. You can't be seeking

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<v Speaker 1>this feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna end up in

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary some day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got you're having too good a time. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my other little brother really disliked it. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell it was like kind of too intense

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But you would tickle him and he would

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<v Speaker 1>he would be laughing, but he'd be pissed. So as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as you'd be done, he'd be like he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like really upset with you, and I like like like,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stop doing it, you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My my daughter is closer to that energy where she

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<v Speaker 2>like will laugh about it, but also like afterwards it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. That's not because it is, that's not cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I don't appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and I get it because it's very it's very

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<v Speaker 1>like it's intense.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a disarming experience and you can't you can't control

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction in a way that that feels maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>most vulnerable that that you can feel in your human experience,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, where like like I something

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<v Speaker 2>is being forced out of me that I truly was

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<v Speaker 2>not aiming for or don't like it. It's too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like this type of thing where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if the reaction to tickling wasn't laughing, it would we

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<v Speaker 1>would think it was torture. It's weeping, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was if you're crying, if if tickling elicited

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<v Speaker 1>the response of crying, doing that to someone would be

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<v Speaker 1>the worst thing you could possibly.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, which I do think and maybe this is my

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<v Speaker 2>me conflating television with real life, but it wasn't tickle

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<v Speaker 2>torture a real thing. Wasn't that at some point? Uh

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<v Speaker 2>that people did. I'm gonna look it up when I

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<v Speaker 2>think about it in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>It also makes me think it was an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon or something. Yeah, like they had somebody tied

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<v Speaker 1>up and they put like a feather to their feet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would tell, have you tickled me too much?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like being tickled now, Mike. Girls just found

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<v Speaker 1>out on the bottom of my feet and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be listen, like you can't just like walk by

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<v Speaker 1>and like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're saying that tickle torture is a is more

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<v Speaker 2>of a TV trope than a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No shame that happens to me all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no again, remind y'all, fucking idiot. But this website

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<v Speaker 2>called Dan Petrosini dot com claims that in ancient China,

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<v Speaker 2>tickle torture was used as a way to punish the

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<v Speaker 2>noble class. It was preferred over other types of discipline

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<v Speaker 2>because it left no marks and the victims will recover

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<v Speaker 2>fairly quickly. Is also used as a torture tool in

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<v Speaker 2>ancient Japan, where it was called merciless tickling. My favorite

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<v Speaker 2>historical reference depicted above has the tying a prisoner down

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<v Speaker 2>and then coding the bottom of their feet with salt water.

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<v Speaker 2>They would then bring out a goat who would lick

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<v Speaker 2>the salt off, igniting uncontrollable laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that. I hate. I hate that the goat

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<v Speaker 1>is involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes it worse somehow. Now I will say

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<v Speaker 2>that this article does not have any references or any

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<v Speaker 2>real uh I guess proof of the claim. So I

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<v Speaker 2>worry that it is just a person writing slightly racist

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<v Speaker 2>things about the past, you know what I mean. Where

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like, I bet the ancient Chinese did that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ancient Chinese secret Yeah exactly. So the Wikipedia also

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<v Speaker 1>says that there's an article in the British Medical Journal

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that describes the goat the goat licking, but it remains

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>unclear if this method was ever used in practice, as

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it is only described in the fifteen or two Trakatas

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>did in Disease Tortura. You nailed that by the Italian

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>jurist and monk Franciscus Brunos, Das and Severino, a treatise

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that actually cautioned against the torture in general. And while

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it seems clear that he had not made up this practice,

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the issue is left open whether the inclusion is based

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>on hearsay.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I worry that some of this is just

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 2>rooted in hearsay. This article also claims that there's documented

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>evidence that Nazi guards tickled inmates and concentration camps in

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>order to torture them, and that feels like a lie

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that I think that is a lie. There's no fucking

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>way in the world that in between gassing people to

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>death and shooting them in the head, they also were

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>tickling these motherfuckers.

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>They would Yeah, I think we have a lot of

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>documentary on what they did and it's all atrocious. I

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>don't think they were also like, yeah, tickle too.

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they wanted the Jewish people to have

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>any fun. Yeah, even if it was fun against their will.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>They were like, you're not fucking gonna get to.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like not. I think it kind of does

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a disservice to the legacy of what happened there.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, maybe we don't trust everything that they're saying,

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>but it does sound like at least the the tropes

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>on television were rooted in some version of historical near

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>fiction that like, maybe there were theories on tickle torture

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that that at some point were tried or or at

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 2>the very least considered by people.

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I think I mean back to the base,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>back to the root of the all this. I am

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>constantly of the fear that I'm gonna do to something

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>too much and get it stuck. So this plays right

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>into my I believe this one. Yeah, I don't. I

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>don't believe. Maybe I don't believe because I yeah, because

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like my one brother that we tickled, he's fine, he's

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a singer now, he's doing great, but like a lot

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of billowy clothing. But that's that's for our family to

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>figure out. You know, here's what I'll say.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I believe that just tickling will

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.719
<v Speaker 2>lead to a stutter. But I do believe, and I'm

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna go out on a limb here, I do believe

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>that every single person with a stutter was maybe tickled

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>too hard at some point.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Believe that tickling leads to stutters, but I do believe

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>there is a Venn diagram of motherfucker's getting tickled too

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>hard and now a stutter exists. And so I don't

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that we have the runway to be

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>able to create causality, right, like to say this is

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>definitively the cause. But I will say that I bet

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>they've all experienced a similar thing at some point.

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>To push back on that a little bit, Yeah, who

0:29:55.600 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been tickled hard? I don't know. I don't. I

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>think everybody's at least. I mean, you have to come

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>from a pretty cold upbringing, you know what I'm saying. Like,

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Donald Trump's been tickled at all. I

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>think he was tickled as a baby. You think Donald

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump was tickled at some point, So I think a housekeeper,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the Jamaican woman who raised him. Yeah,

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I think she tickled it sometimes.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody's ever tickled that man wanted to not.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I think. I don't think you could come out of

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>childhood without getting tickled. I really don't. It's one of

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the easiest games to play with the child.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the easiest games to play with the

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>child you have any affection for. And I think that

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that there are some people who find themselves in childhoods

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that are completely loose of affection.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I think so. But even then, they never had a

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>friend's parent, they never had one somebody like a local pervert.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that. I knew you were gonna do that.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew you were gonna do that. And I don't

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's fair. I don't think it's fair right now,

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>because listen, we all, a lot of us maybe didn't

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get the affection that was maybe needed as a child,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>and we run run to things like the entertainment field

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to fill that void. But even within that, we've all

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>been still been tickled.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, I'm men tackled quite a bit.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kids get tickled, Kids get tickled. It happens, you know,

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like also, if you don't know kids or something,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like a really easy go to What am I

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you? How's the wife and kids? How's school going? No,

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tickle you, and then I'll be out, Like

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>let me get on that pits. Yeah, could you go

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere?

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you go take care of yourself. Here's a cigarette.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>The point is, I do think tickling is such a

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a pretty because I and now now

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm overstepping, but I think that it's like crosses

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>even cultures. I feel like the whole world is tickling.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, right, Like there's no there's no country where

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they don't tickle children. I'd imagine.

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, But maybe that's our our own ignorance,

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>right Like I I truly don't know.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, because I think that also in this is weird.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think in America we're a lot softer on babies

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>than other places are. Mm hmmm does that make sense?

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like crely they're hard on babies. Bro, I

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just a little baby. I think it's funny. I'll say,

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my auntie like picking up my cousin by his leg

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like ah, it's funny.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>But I also think that in other places, while yes,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>they can be quote unquote hard on babies, there also

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>is like a more of an intimacy created between parents

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and their kids than sometimes in the United States. Like

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 2>real friend, my friend was telling me that there's this

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>practice that happens in a lot of international Asian households

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>where when a child is born, the mother will spend

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like three months in the bed with the child.

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>That like, they will.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Just be in the bed all day long, nursing, spending

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 2>time cuddling, because it's both a chance for the mother

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to recover but also to sort of build like an intimacy,

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>a comfort with this child. And I think because of that,

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you really become fucking locked in as a unit, and

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 2>that child is like nurtured cared for in a way

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that like in a fucking America you got to be

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>back to work in two weeks.

0:33:58.360 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 2>That luxury doesn't exist. So while we are quote unquote

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>presenting easier on our children, we are not necessarily giving

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 2>them the things that like other children are probably reaping.

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>God damn ain't that America in a nutshell? Fuck? Yeah,

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>fuck that fucked me up.

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, It's disappointing when you find out that, like, oh

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>we we truly are just doing things wrong in some ways.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>Right, because I mean, our babies take a long time

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to take care of. H Did you read that? You

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>ever read that book Sapiens that you've torn? It goes

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>back to this idea of like standing up, We weren't

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe ever supposed to be standing up, and because of it,

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>our babies come out under developed because it takes longer

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to take care of our babies than like any other animals.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, it takes us way longer to become full

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>grown than every other type of animal.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And giraffes start out doing at all that.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Motherfuckers come out tall and ready flop to the ground

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 2>and get to work.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, this so fun. I got a draft fight

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the other day. This is this is weird. Actually, I

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about it.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 2>What What do you mean? You got in a giraffe fight?

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>What me? Man? Can I guess what I think it is? Yeah?

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I what I know about how giraffe fight is

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>they slam their next into each other. Am I to

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>believe that you and another person were slamming your your

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 2>heads and next into each other.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why are you selling Paris?

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like weird now, No, it's definitely weird. I'm like

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>said it. It's like because me and my girl were

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen and we accidentally bumped heads and then

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>she she's like, let's fight like giraffes. There's only like

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Damn, man, you're in love.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful. That's really nice. Something's going on here, desire

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 2>being weird with a lady because she asked, that's what

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>love is.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Why I'm weird too though, So it's like I was like, yeah, yeah,

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never been in a draft fight. I'm not gonna

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>miss out when and it turns out if you have

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a regular neck, it's real it's hard to get the angles. Yeah.

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, it seems like you probably

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 2>are hitting chins and skulls.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Pretty. It's just you can't like because you try to

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:48.040
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0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>just we don't have we're not built for it. When

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.719
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<v Speaker 2>says there are four factors most likely to contribute to

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<v Speaker 2>the development of stuttering genetics. Approximately sixty percent of those

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<v Speaker 2>who stutter have a family member who does.

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<v Speaker 1>Also.

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<v Speaker 2>Child development, children with other speech and language problems or

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<v Speaker 2>development till delays are more likely to stutter. Neurophysiology, Recent

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>neurological research has shown that people who stutter process speech

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and language slightly differently than those who do not stutter.

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>In family dynamics, high expectations and fast paced lifestyles can

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>contribute to stuttering. Stuttering may occur when a combination of

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 2>factors comes together and may have different calls and different people.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 2>It is a probable it is probable that what causes

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>stuttering differs from what makes it continue or get worst.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 2>No mention of tickling, but certainly elements inside of this

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 2>that feel like they.

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>At least are.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Speaking to the possibility of familial influence and physical I

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>guess nothing physical, but certain sociological influence in your home.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that in and of itself is scary that

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>you can put a lifestyle on a child that will develop, Like,

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>is it like a stress thing, like like my expeditions

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and fact like the kids under so much stress. It's

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>just like even talking becomes difficult.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like I mean, obviously you can't downplay

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the sort of importance of family and neurological development being

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 2>like the probably the biggest players inside of the But

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I imagine that like the stress of a fast paced household

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>or things not necessarily being as I guess, you know, helpful.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>In the needs and.

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Results of that one individual, because I don't want to

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 2>put it on some shit where it's like, oh, your

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>house is fucked up and that's why you stutter.

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's what they're saying.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they're more saying that, like, we all individually

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>have specific needs based on our own brains and like house,

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes that need doesn't match what you have, and

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 2>that might lead to a little bit of a stutter.

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good, because I'm glad it's not physical, because

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>there's time I was worried you were going to say

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you could scare it into somebody. You ever scared a

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>kid a little too much? Oh? Fuck, have you ever

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>done that? Like, were you scared a kid and it

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was like they got too scared? You know what?

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I was so much a kid who did not like

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 2>being scared. How you're talking about how your little brother

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 2>not liking being tickled, That's how I felt about, Like,

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker's hiding around corners and being spooky and shit, yeah,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I have chosen not to ever do that to my kid.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Like interesting, well a tailor two brothers again, both also

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>had the same reactions to being scared.

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, one of them really liked it and the other one.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the obviously the tickle one, the fiend who as

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>an adult is not an adult. He's sixteen. But it's

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>like the more calm one of all of us. Now

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he's the calmest one. Well, he also loved to survived trauma.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that, but he likes that. I grew up

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 2>in a hunted house, so I think I'll be okay.

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>He would like because when you would scare him, like

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>if you do the booth thing, he would get scared

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and then he would laugh really really hard.

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Whereas Martin the one you met, he did he so

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he was very like he was kind of one of

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 1>those kids where he was which kids credit and he

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>carried on into adulthood, thank god. But he was very

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 1>quick to be like, I don't like that.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I think about you. You watch Ellen right in like back. No,

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 2>well I didn't mean literally, I just meant uh. In

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the the You and the Royal sense. Okay, I didn't

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.240
<v Speaker 2>presume that you were spending your mornings watching that white

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 2>lady dance and sneakers.

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think you did either. That's why I was

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of offended when you brought it up. No, no, no,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I I don't.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.879
<v Speaker 2>I do not watch Ellen, although you know, I thought

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 2>she was a pretty good lady until I found out

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't mind talk though I will say it's

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 1>like kind of fun to watch, like the reel or something.

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I like when it feels like you're actually having a

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>conversation with that person. I get more bored when it

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>feels like, oh, these are just cant bits during the day,

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>because then it's like, wow, if that's if I'm watching

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and that, then I might as well wait till late

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.720
<v Speaker 2>night where they'll tell their the naughty version of this story.

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>That's you know what I mean? You don't like watching

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>My Man and Michael Strahan.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>No, I've never cared for him having a talk show once.

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I actually think it's pretty offensive that this man with

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>brain damage gets to.

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Be Come on, Michael Strahan, He's just a charming guy.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't like it. I truly don't like

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>when this might be because you don't like football, though.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It might be, but I really don't like when sports

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>guys suddenly become like a sort of like media guys.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>It fucking bugs me and I don't know why really,

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>but it don't sit right in my spirit when they

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like suddenly become cute in our hands, because.

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Deep down you just think their big gorillas paid to

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>smash each other. Because that's how it sounds, the way

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you're talking. That's like me reading between the lines. And

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>this is I love Michael Strahan. I've always thought he

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>was charming. I loved him when he played football, like,

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, well he was on the Giants. He

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was so much fun. And then he had that commercial,

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>big old Michael straighthand oh man, not that guy. I want.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to defend myself, but I guess a little

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>part of me is like, yeah, I don't think these

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 2>big old animals should be talking to fucking Sydney Sweeney.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I can. I can feel it. I feel it

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>emanating from you.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I I just like when people stay in the lane

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 2>that they are strongest than and they buy it bugs

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 2>me when people find themselves in a lane that I

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>know is not where they're supposed to be. You know

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>what I mean that, Like, I get it. Michael Strahand

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 2>is the charming guy. He's handsome, he's he's fine, but

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 2>he's also like a glut with a lisp. And I

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 2>see though.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like some guys they make it great,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like Shack great media personality.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Shaq is a great media personality next to four got

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>three other guys who know how to talk. But Shaq,

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he ain't supposed to be talking to regular people.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 1>That's an insane takes. His voice is just deep. He's

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>not slow. Yes he is, David bro this is not

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 1>split list is a stupid person. You think Shaquille or

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Shan O'Neill.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I listen, I don't. I don't mean to stretch this

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 2>into smart and not smart. That's not the point that

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to make. I think you're extending it there.

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I am saying that Shaq next to Kenny, Ernie and

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Charles is phenomenal. But whenever they put Shaq next to

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 2>other people, you start to really tell that this motherfucker

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>ain't connecting dots the way he's supposed to connect dots.

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>There are those episodes where it's like him and Candace Parker,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and Candace Parker is exhausted by the end of that

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>ship because he is a hard man to talk to,

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and he ain't throwing up no lobs to nobody. That's

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, is that under the right circumstances, I

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.959
<v Speaker 2>listen to Shaq talk all day, but I'm not gonna

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>sit here and pretend that this is like a late

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 2>night talk show host.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, he's no Arsenio Hall. No, that's fair.

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not even DeVante Hale, who I don't even know

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:29.760
<v Speaker 2>who that is. I assume our Sinio's slow cousin.

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>He's none of those people. I like the big fella.

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I like Michael Strahan.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I my point before we got into this ugly tangent

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 2>my got dark was to say that I'd.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Shut the fuck up. Jack.

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 2>You're Shaq, You're a wonderful speaker, and both your eyes

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>are looking in the same direction.

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because how do you feel about Kaem Abdul Jabbar.

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that ship either. What the fuck are

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you doing in the Veronica? That don't make no goddamn sense.

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Lost a job.

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>He's very smart man, He's not funny. Why is he

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>writing in comedy rooms?

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Is Veronica Mar's a comedy. I've never watched it. I

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>never watched it. I have never watched it. He's never

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>made us laugh once. I thought it was pretty funny

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>when he was doing that karate.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:27.359
<v Speaker 2>My point, if I can get to my point, Yeah,

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>My point was that on Ellen, they used to do

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that thing where they would scare the shit out of

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>their guests. Every once in a while, somebody would be

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and then like a producer or a scary

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 2>person would pop out from a box, the back whatever.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And you always see sort of these telling moments inside

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>of the celebrities of like the people who laugh it

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>off genuinely and the people who are laughing because if

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 2>they don't, they're worried they're going to lose their career.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 2>But like are truly angry about what just happened to them.

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think I fall much close, sir, to the

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I would be truly angry, and not in a way

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 2>that I could like just keep chit chatting my life,

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I could I do see that, and I would respect that,

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and you, like I wouldn't. Nothing about you makes me

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>think you would like, I want to be scared. I

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>don't like that. Yeah, I could tell you. I feel

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like it would take you out of your frame. I

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like it would make you vulnerable in a way

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think you would appreciate.

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I've worked really hard to present a certain person

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>to the world.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Just you could make one noise and that shit would

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>called crumble.

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'll be honest, I do be making weird noises.

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I cried.

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I cried so hard at our wedding, at like our wedding,

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and one of those cries were like while I was

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to say my vows, like oh, sound came out

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and then I had to apologize to the to like

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.919
<v Speaker 2>the entire to be like I'm sorry, y'all. I don't

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 2>know what that was, man, you know what I mean, Like, I.

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Think it's crazy that you even told that story. I

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have told no. Oh yeah, my friend, I'm being yeah, okay, No.

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you cry weird? Are you weird crying?

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because I try not to be crying

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 2>too hard and right, and it always makes that coyote

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 2>yelp happen.

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>That's see That's the thing about crying is you kind

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of just gotta let it pass through, Like because if

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:39.799
<v Speaker 1>you hold on to not crying, that ship Denni's that's

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>when it sounds goofy. You gotta just take the two

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>three big sobs and then get through it.

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, take a deep breath, let it out and then

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>uh and then be past it.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah when you're holding on. No, I'm telling

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you because I probably I probably a once every three years,

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>four years something like that. Yeah, So it's like I

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to go through it. And it's also like

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta make sure nobody's around. Man, get in

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the shower, turn the water on, you know what I mean.

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Blasts Yeah, blast that Mary J. Blige, not gonna cry

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and just feel what you gotta feel. Damn.

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not there yet, but I'll work on it.

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm a man in constant change, in constant growth, and

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I will grow beyond where I am and maybe I'll

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>grow to learn and understand Shack to be the the

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>brilliant thinker that you see him as.

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I'm saying. I'm just you would like you.

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think so I think like if

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>we hung out with the big fella, you don't think

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you'd have a good time.

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably a bully in real life.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you not like it because you would be so

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 1>much larger than you?

0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:57.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I genuinely think he takes a type of pride

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 2>in being so much larger than people that like, he's

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the type of dude that will like bump you intentionally

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and like sort of shake you a little bit.

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't like that. I could see him like

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>picking you up.

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not in a way that we're both having fun

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 2>type ship. It's like, no, I want you to feel like,

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>look I could pick you up.

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look you're you're a small weak man to me.

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Look and it's like you head, let me see a

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>little peep. He pulled my pants down.

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:35.439
<v Speaker 2>He's like, look at it, look at it. That's nothing

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 2>compared to mine.

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Look at that.

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 6>Ultimately we just unlocked with Your real fear is Yeah,

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't want him to pick me up and expose

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 6>my little yeah, because when you say it does that

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 6>would be terrible.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Now that's the type of guy he is. I think,

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>look at it. Your wife, Your wife is there. This

0:51:58.480 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>is what you like?

0:51:59.640 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Is it.

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You vowed your life to this.

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like she's embarrassed.

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed and his voice is all low, so would

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 1>hurt even more. You'd be like Lester has a tiny penis.

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, people got their phone thought, oh man, yeah.

0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Why would you do this? He took your ship out

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>of Dantanni's. Come on, man, it's a good restaurant. Why

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 1>would you do that? It's our anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>We invited you, hear me, my wife for our anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's fair. He does use his size in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, and who amongst us would not No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't blame him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm certainly not better than him. I just don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that he would have good, good intentions for for me

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<v Speaker 2>and frankly you if we spent time with.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, maybe I think I could. I think I could

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<v Speaker 1>get in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's that's maybe some of the sickness, right,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we all find ourselves sort of believing in

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<v Speaker 2>our heroes in a way that that maybe isn't completely true.

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<v Speaker 1>But and now, if I'm if I'm being honest with myself,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I just love him because he was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>blackest thing, and as a big black thing. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like I've always been big

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<v Speaker 1>nigga heroes, Bro, I've always been like big dark guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are making that's they have a space in my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Bro, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a bunch of losers who are just light

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<v Speaker 2>skinned men that that I'm always going to root for

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that everybody else you know won't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you have your kings as well. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I have my kings.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't walk away from that, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to pretend otherwise no matter what anybody says about them,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just you made me feel seen in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that I needed when when no one else could.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like, there's nothing Ben Wallace could do that would

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<v Speaker 1>make me turn my back on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. I respect that, you know, Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing for for Austin Rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, you know what fucked up in my heart

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<v Speaker 1>of hearts and this is not this is just my

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<v Speaker 1>immediate feeling to that. When you said that, I was like, yeah,

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we are better. In my brain. In my brain, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is said Austin Rivers, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Wallace. I was you Austin Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he was the funniest name I could

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<v Speaker 2>think of at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, to Corey, is that because we I think we

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<v Speaker 2>did it. I think I think we got really needed Corey.

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<v Speaker 2>To your question of whether or not tickling leads to stuttering,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we would be I responsible to say anything

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<v Speaker 2>other than that is not true. Your mother is wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but she remains the funniest mom and she deserves the

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<v Speaker 2>Funniest Mom Award when that comes out. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when voting opens up, but she certainly has mine and

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<v Speaker 2>and David's vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, definitely. I tell you tell your mom. We say, Hi,

0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>tell your mom. We say what's up? Hey girl, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Teller Langston licks his lips.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, tell her, We said, Gorey, go tell your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>When we say that, when your mom comes from and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, where's my hug miss Brandy, Miss Brandy? Where

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<v Speaker 1>my hug at? I do I do want to know him?

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, I'm not aware my hug at type

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<v Speaker 1>dude at all. This is I know, No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joking. Yeah, that doesn't even that doesn't even fit

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<v Speaker 1>with your whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Get down, and that'd be devastating to find out about

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<v Speaker 2>a person you you know, to be like, oh shit,

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 2>that's who you are, because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Also seem like a guy who would get the hug

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<v Speaker 1>naturally anyways, because to be aware my hug at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to not yeah, you weren't gonna get a hug

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna get, which means you're already kind of maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a musty situation or just a general off putting in

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<v Speaker 1>that women don't want to embrace you. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell the people where they can find you

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<v Speaker 2>on what cool shit you have going on?

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 1>A cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram? All the

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff is there. I'm not touring too much right now,

0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 1>but back in like June July, that's about to start

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>up again. So in the meantime, just watch Royal Crackers

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>come to the show, come to the live, come to

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the live show for my birthday is gonna be great

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>at the Comedy Store May fifth lit. My MoMA told me,

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to sell that bitch out so then we

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>can in turn some more shows out eventually make them

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<v Speaker 1>enough money to disappear and have us never have you,

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>never see us again because ultimately we do not know you.

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 2>We don't know you, and we're going to retire in

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<v Speaker 2>the coreer, Miss Brandy.

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<v Speaker 1>We know you, we know funny funny, so funny bro.

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 2>As always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman and

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 2>if you want to send us your own drops, your

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 2>own conspiracy theories. If you want to tell us exactly

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 2>where we can find Corey's mom, send it all to

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 2>my mamapod at gmail dot com. We would love to

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 2>hear from you. You can buy the the merch. I

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 2>believe the website changed, so I don't remember what it is,

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 2>but look it up. You'll find it. It's not that deep.

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0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>that keep coming in. And that's that's all the stuff

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:17.439
<v Speaker 2>that we needed to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye, bitch, my Quo chips and your.

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<v Speaker 4>All quality bears are racist. The host layer host the

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<v Speaker 4>money turkey stuff I can't tell me