1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I never needed to know a to lib quality thought 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: about anything other than a song with Mary J. Blize Dog. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: I used to think you was a genius. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: I thought he made me a genius. Yeah, I was like, 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm just so smart. I listened to most Death any 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: rapper that Dave Chappelle allotted. I think he's in that genre, right. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: I used to think Common was a genius. 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I thought Common was Oh, you were a teacher and 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: from Chicago. I know you're listening to Common. 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: No, and now he's doing fucking commercials for Microsoft to 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: you like. 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: This niggas an idiot. And I don't even know if 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: the old stuff was smart. It is that it is 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: important that we communicate. I don't know what it means 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: to tune the fate of this union to the right pitch. Yeah. No, 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: he's just saying stuff, is saying stuff. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: My chips in your. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: Quals are racist, post the money then turning stuff. 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I can't tell me. 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Well, well, it's the big show. There it is, there 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: of My Mama Told Me. 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories. 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: And we finally work to prove that. Joe Budden is 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: a prime example of what happens when your beard connects 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: too much. 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: There is a rule. 29 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: It has to look at least like there are a 30 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: few patches in there. But that motherfucker connects too much 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: and it's getting to his brain. 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm lin Stinker, I'm David Bori, and I ain't blown away. 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I never even it's like the problems you 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: never even think about. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that much connection, man. 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: It's it's so connected that, like, how could anything else 37 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: go right? 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, na, this is too full. 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Because I mean, we could argue that's one of the 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: better beards around, but it ain't, you know what I mean? 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Like it it is in a technical sense, it is 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: a perfectly full beard. But then you look at it 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't want that, you know what 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: I mean, Like I don't want what he has. 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: It's I think, Okay, here's a couple of things about 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Joe Budden's beard. I think, first of. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: Of all, yeah, let's get it. 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Joe beard higher, very high, the most black men's beard. 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Like his shit's like two inches away from his eyebrows. Yeah, 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: if he winks it moves. Yeah, he looks like a 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: Willie Willie. 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: And you don't want your beard that tall. That's the 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: tall tea of a beard. 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: And it's also so manicured that I feel like I 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: have to watch my words here as I come to 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Steeve Bull. 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Okay, be careful. 58 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: It's so well put together. And this is by the 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: grace of God. His genetics are his beard genetics are 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: so strong that I feel like it makes him look. 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: Foreign in a waw sure, listen, say no more, Say 62 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 5: no more. 63 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: I one agreed, Joe, Butden looks like an immigrant from 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: beard alone. 65 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm not here to place what that immigrant is. I'm 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: certain I'm certainly not taking a stance on whether or 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: not that person belongs in this country. I am, in fact, 69 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: welcoming that individual to this country. That is not the 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: stance I think we're taking. All we are saying is 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: that Joe Budden very much looks like an immigrant to 72 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: the United States because of his beard. 73 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: He looks like a cartoon character of an untrustworthy man. 74 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: He looks like when when you get attacked by a person, 75 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: this is who you tell the police to draw from 76 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: memory so that you find that individual. 77 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's Uncanny Valley where the 78 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: beard looks so good that you don't trust it is. 79 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: A polar express beard for sure. 80 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: The lines are so shocked then you just like this 81 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: can't I don't know what I'm looking at. But it's not. 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: Right, that's not that's not how people are. 83 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like because And the weird thing is it's 84 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: almost got like a fat joke quality to his beard. 85 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: But it's it's like that's the beard that Fat Joe wants. That. 86 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: That's the thing is that I do think that Fat 87 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: Joe really worked hard for the beard that he has. 88 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: And while I don't care for it, I recognize that, like, no, 89 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: this was a concerted effort to create this. 90 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: He's putting Beijing in it, He's really earned it. 91 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: He's really trying to make that ship look a certain way. 92 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: Whereas I think Joe Butden is cursed with yeah, like 93 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: whatever he has. 94 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: That woman put that spell on him, that foreign woman 95 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: that he wronged, which. 96 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: Isn't a far fet you think it was some Asian 97 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: girly dad what he was. 98 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: The idea that Joe Butden hasn't done dirt in the 99 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Dominican fields. 100 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: Crazy. Oh, I bet you there's some illegitimate buttons running 101 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: around the islands, just some little pretty Dominican boy who 102 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: can rap very well. 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: Because there's some reason chooses not to go back to 104 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: rap it. 105 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: Man. We were talking about this off air because the 106 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Joe Budden conversations never stopped. I am a big joke 107 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that guy can rap his asshole, he and rap his 108 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: ass off. 109 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: I don't appreciate any of his thoughts outside of hip hop, 110 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: but I genuinely am a big fan of the music. 111 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: He used to make. 112 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Same mood music one through four. You know what, Joe 113 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Budden came to me at a time I needed a 114 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: sad rapper. I need a sad rapper. I needed a 115 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: rapper with some tissues. That also, you were like, this 116 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: guy is sad in depression and he has addiction. Is yeah, yeah, 117 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: of course that's like that Venn diagram was not. I 118 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: feel like he invented that lane. 119 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: I I genuinely miss a point, the point where we 120 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: didn't have to hear the opinions outside of the rappers raps, 121 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, where we just got the 122 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: raps and we didn't know anything about them otherwise, and 123 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: that ooh, what a satisfying thing that we used to have. 124 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Especially because I think that you and I are probably 125 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: in the same vein where you remember that you when you 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: had rappers that you listened to to make people think 127 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: you were smart. M of course those are the guys 128 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: that we needed to hear less from. And this is 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: all when I was a teenager, and I have since 130 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: grown up to understand I am not that smart. Now, 131 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: there was a whole genre of rappers who made you 132 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: feel smart, and those guys being exposed is maybe not 133 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the smartest guys really, And then and then you get older, 134 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: you're like, wow, fifty cents really smart. 135 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heartbreaking who you find out is actually like, 136 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: turns out turns out plies. That's a pretty thoughtful guy. 137 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, No. Five I was like, bust it, baby, I'm 138 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: going to listen to the gy remix. It turns out plies. 139 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: It's like a fucking brilliant dude. Meanwhile, Loope has some 140 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: work to do, you know what I mean. Like, it's 141 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: fucking crazy. 142 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: I thought Loupe could truly run for Congress at some point. 143 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: Fuck man, it's it is, it's a it's a tragic 144 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: thing that that happened, but maybe a necessary thing. Maybe 145 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: that is part of growing up as you realize your 146 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: heroes are fallible the same way everybody else is. 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I guess I think that it means that there is 148 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: a dearth and we can sneak in and get some 149 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: of this fake, smart black money. 150 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: I like that. 151 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: I will speaking to that. 152 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: We had that beautiful uh Vulture article uh huh that 153 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: was written about us, where the the author was very 154 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: generous in his explanation and breakdown of sort of the 155 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: brilliant work that we're doing. 156 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: We want your work that you're doing, and he was like, 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: and David, BORI, if Lexton doesn't have well thought out 158 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: developed research, David comes in with his trusty Sound Bad 159 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: drink bomb. Sharkey presses a button and I know, I understand, 160 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: I understand the place I occupy. I'm wearing a Booty 161 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Call T shirt right now. 162 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous, it's so funny. It looks good man. 163 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, not to say if we're gonna be 164 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: a if you're gonna be a charlottetan, I think I 165 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: would rather be a Charlatan who's pretending I'm smart as 166 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: opposed to like, I'm not gonna pretend I kill people 167 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: or some ship. Yeah. 168 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: No, I want to reassure our audience that that no 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: matter what comes out about us, no matter what you 170 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 2: start to believe, let me reassure you we are idiots, 171 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: absolute fucking dumb dumbs. And and even if there are 172 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: parts of you that start to believe otherwise, you're wrong 173 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: and you need to reflect on that. 174 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's like, because if you really pay attention, 175 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: we've been leading a breadcrimb trail the whole time like that, 176 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and the usual suspects. When he starts walking straight and 177 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: you realize that he is actually a smart man, that's 178 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: the opposite what I don't worry. Don't worry. The limp stays. 179 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: That being said, write more articles about us. It was 180 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: a very nice article. 181 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: It was a lovely article, and we would love more 182 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: of them. And make sure you you call us both 183 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: brilliant next time, or at least acknowledge my man does 184 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: more than just press bingball on the thing. 185 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: No, I mean, no, they were they were nice to me. 186 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: That's just how I interpret it because I'm a sensitive 187 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: be sure. 188 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I get that. Yeah, yeah, we have an 189 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: email that we wanted to read today. We got a 190 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: very fun email. 191 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an exciting one. 192 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: From a person named Corey, A proud little mama. They 193 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: identify as. 194 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I want to. 195 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Assume it's a he, but I don't know for sure. 196 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: But maybe it's a she. Maybe it's a day. It 197 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: can be either one. I never met a girl, Corey. 198 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: You never met a girl, Corey. I feel like I 199 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: knew a girl named Cora. 200 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: Oh sure from the real world. 201 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: No, that's not Maybe I'm thinking of Chorrel. What was 202 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: that little girl? No, that was Troy from Crookland. Yeah, 203 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Troy froyd boy. 204 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 205 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: Man, that movie was sad. Huh. 206 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just watched it. I'm a little embarrassed to 207 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: admit it, but I just watched it for the first time, 208 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: like a week ago. Really, I had seen snippets. I 209 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: had seen clips and shit, but I never. 210 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: Talked about it. 211 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could keep up, Like I knew what the 212 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: basis of the film was, but I never sat and 213 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: watched the entire movie. And it starts off and you're like, man, 214 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: this might be Spike Lee's just most uplifting, sweet film 215 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: about just a family with some odd characters, and then 216 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: it gets sad and sadder and then uncomfortable and then saddest. 217 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: But good movie. I love Alfrey Woods and Delroy Lindo. 218 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Del Lindo, Baby, I don't, man, I. 219 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Don't think we talked about how good that guy is? 220 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: When did he mean? What's he ever missed? 221 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: Worst worst name in the game? And truly, I think 222 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: that's a phenomenal. It's it's hard to remember. I love 223 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: saying it, but it ain't. It ain't an easy one 224 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: when you want to recall your favorite actor. 225 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: I love it. I think, man, if I was named 226 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Delroy Lindo, this would be actually, this would be all different. 227 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: You think the podcast would be thriving. If my name 228 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: was Delroy Lindo, I would be a calib Qualiti style rapper. 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: You think we wouldn't even be podcasting. You think this 230 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: would just be a different wave. You think Delroy Lindo 231 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: has a podcast, I pray to god he does not. Yeah, 232 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: of course, now he doesn't need it. His name is 233 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: Delroy Lindo. He seems like he goes to bed in 234 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: long shirts. Does that make sense? 235 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: He feels like he seems like he wears every fab 236 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: brick except denim. That like, I think that has had 237 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: a pair of jeans since the sixties. 238 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: And why Woody, that's why you can't even buy that. 239 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: When your name is del Roy. 240 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Here's some shit that's about to fuck you up. I 241 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: just I looked him up. 242 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, born in London, del Roy Lindo is British. 243 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: Not even our has he moved here when he was sixteen? 244 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Del Roy Lindo. Whoa, I thought he was the blackest 245 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: man on earth. 246 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: You could be black from London. Not. According to me, 247 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: it almost makes more sense if you think about it 248 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: in a British accent, like think about this. I was 249 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: hanging with my mike, Delroy right. 250 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it feels yeah, oh fuck, he really is British. 251 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa? I wonder because they're they're they're better at 252 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: acting than us, so it kind of does make sense. 253 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: Delroy Lindo my man. 254 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: But the son of Jamaican parents, which I think we 255 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: all could have guess as well. 256 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we knew there was Caribbean blood flowing through there. Yeah, 257 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: he's the man has been wearing mesh tank tops for 258 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: for forty years. 259 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I think we knew that was the Caribbean. He drinks 260 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: out of a fruit for He's drank out the fruit, 261 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: but not in the touristy way, just in the way 262 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: where it was hot out and he cracked up in 263 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: the fruit. Yeah, I feel like we go with Caribbean 264 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: people hard on his podcast. Sometimes I want people to 265 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: know I want to live in the Caribbean. I think 266 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: it's great. 267 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm a fan. When I lived in Boston, 268 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: I had some nasty runnings with Asians, but otherwise I'm 269 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: a pretty big fan of Caribbeans. 270 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: I would say what happened. 271 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: I just think they're the dominant community out there, and 272 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: they moved the way they move and I move like 273 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: a nigga from Chicago, and that don't always Uh, that's complicated. Yeah, 274 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: you don't always get along when when you are of 275 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: two different worlds in that way. 276 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Man, I know this shit was real because you did 277 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: not answer my question at all. Really Like the way 278 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: you answered was like there's specifics that you really don't 279 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: want to get into. That was crazy. When you start 280 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: blaming your city, that's when it's like, you. 281 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, and we all come from different 282 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: places and community is important. 283 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Listen, if you got beat up by some Atians. 284 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: You could say, no, I didn't get beat up by 285 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: any Haitians, but I didn't care for their personalities more 286 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: often than not when I was in Boston. But otherwise 287 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm a big van of Caribbeans across the board. 288 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciated culture. 289 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: We're calling upon you because we have we have new merch. 290 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: We have very exciting merch that we are now set 291 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: and it's it's fucking great. We love it so much. 292 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: Just sleek, it's sexy. 293 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: Come on, you want to tell them what we have. 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is 295 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien 296 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then 297 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: we have the enamel pin with an alien who has 298 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: a coofie on it since my mama told me. And 299 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama, 300 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: which is who you are. 301 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my 302 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: mama told me dot merch table dot com. It's a 303 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: brand new name, but it's the same old merch and 304 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 2: we would love for you to get some if you 305 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: haven't got it already, and we want you to have 306 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: all the sweet stuff so get it. We need to 307 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: get to Corey's email. Ye, Corey sent an email and 308 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: the subject line this is a very exciting subject line. 309 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: It says tickling a baby equals stuttering adult question mark. 310 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Already you're hooked, they said, Hey guys, relatively new listener, 311 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: but this has quickly become one of my favorite podcasts. 312 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: Your episode timing is perfect, as I have a long 313 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: ass commute on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Fuck yeah, I don't 314 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: know where you're going, Corey, and frankly, I think you 315 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: need to chill the fuck out doing it every week. 316 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: But that's exciting. I'm glad that we're hitting when we 317 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: are supposed to hit for you. 318 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Glad we can support your commute to both your families. 319 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: I hope they don't find out via this podcast, but 320 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: we know what you're up to, Corey, and you gotta stop. Man. 321 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: You gotta pick one family and abandon the other kids. 322 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: It's just is the right thing to do. 323 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, give the other kids something to overcome, you know. Yep? 324 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: Go ahead, make yourself a Lebron James and then raise 325 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 2: a taj Mawori in the other house. He said to 326 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: the conspiracy I have a son that will oh. I 327 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: have a son that was about six months old at 328 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: the time of this event. I went to dinner with 329 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: my mom and my son was basically inconsolable during the dinner. 330 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: He wanted me, he wanted to be near his dad, 331 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: and anytime my mom tried to hold him, he would scream. 332 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: I told my mom that he was very ticklish. Maybe 333 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: try to tickle him under his armpits to lower his guard. 334 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: She adamantly refused and said something to the extent of no, 335 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: you don't tickle babies or else they'll develop a stutter. 336 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: Then she proceeds to impersonate someone, saying, daddy with the 337 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: heavy stutter. I'll spare you the phanetics. No, that's crazy, 338 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: she did. I act out after saying some wild shit 339 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: at the dinner table in. 340 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: The red lobster. She's like the waiter, just standing there, 341 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: confused because the stuttering impression can easily sound like another 342 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: type of impression. 343 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: Right, No, it gets ugly fast if you don't if 344 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: people don't know what you're doing. He goes on to say, 345 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: have y'all heard anything like this before? I was hysterically 346 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: laughing because my mom always comes out of left field. 347 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: With new crazy shit. Sincerely, thanks for the laughs, Corey, 348 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: proud little mom man. 349 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean I will. Let's say, first of all, Corey, 350 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: your mother hilarious. 351 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: Your mother might be prime for being a guest on 352 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: this podcast. 353 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 354 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: Unbelievably funny. 355 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's she up there with Jay Sean. That's the 356 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: funniest shit to do ever. Oh my god. 357 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: If your mother is still with us, and I pray 358 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: that she is, please let her know we are big 359 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: fans of the work that she's doing. 360 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Love what she's got going on. Man, that's oh so 361 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: many levels. That's hilarious. 362 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: I've never heard this before in my life. 363 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: So here's the first thing. I think that on an 364 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: animalistic level in my in my like animal caveman, stupid brain. 365 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: I get the science behind it, Okay, Like you shake 366 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: it too much and it's gonna stay shook. Yeah, you 367 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: know what I'm And like, do you ever remember, like 368 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: when you're a kid being tickled is so visceral that 369 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: like I like sometimes you know, you think back as 370 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: a kid, like how hard you be laughing this year 371 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: like that, and it's like, yeah, that could have shook 372 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: shook something loose. 373 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I never thought about it in terms of 374 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: shaking something loose. But that is the part that maybe 375 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: hits the the most for me, is that like, it's 376 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: not about getting tickled so much that you stay tickled 377 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: as much as it is like something babies are are 378 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: fragile and and sort of like are not fully configurated 379 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 2: inside all the way. And the idea that you do 380 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: something so jarring to the physical form that it becomes 381 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: permanent feels like a real thing. 382 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Cause it's like, also think about it, there's no other 383 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: form of affection or anything else that you do to 384 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: a kid that is that physically intense m you know 385 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it's like very because so my 386 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: two brothers, this is really funny. My two brothers have 387 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: varied because I'm way older than them. I'm forty, so 388 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: I knew and when they were babies, my two brothers 389 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: have very different reactions. My one little brother like being 390 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: tickled too much, where I would be like, you have 391 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: to calm down, you know what I mean, and he'd 392 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: be going ape shit. I'd be like, you got this 393 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: is not good. This is like I feel like I'm 394 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: creating some kind of a dependence. You can't be seeking 395 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: this feeling in the world. 396 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're gonna end up in 397 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: a documentary some day. 398 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you're having too good a time. And 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: then my other little brother really disliked it. Yeah, like 400 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: you could tell it was like kind of too intense 401 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: for him. But you would tickle him and he would 402 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: he would be laughing, but he'd be pissed. So as 403 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: soon as you'd be done, he'd be like he'd be 404 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: like really upset with you, and I like like like, 405 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of stop doing it, you know. Yeah. 406 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: My my daughter is closer to that energy where she 407 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: like will laugh about it, but also like afterwards it's like, hey, 408 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: don't do that. That's not because it is, that's not cool, 409 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 2: and I don't I don't appreciate. 410 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: It, and I get it because it's very it's very 411 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: like it's intense. 412 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: It's a disarming experience and you can't you can't control 413 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: your reaction in a way that that feels maybe the 414 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: most vulnerable that that you can feel in your human experience, 415 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, where like like I something 416 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 2: is being forced out of me that I truly was 417 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: not aiming for or don't like it. It's too much. 418 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like this type of thing where it's like, 419 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: if the reaction to tickling wasn't laughing, it would we 420 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: would think it was torture. It's weeping, yeah, yeah, yeah, 421 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: if it was if you're crying, if if tickling elicited 422 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: the response of crying, doing that to someone would be 423 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: the worst thing you could possibly. 424 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: Do, which I do think and maybe this is my 425 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: me conflating television with real life, but it wasn't tickle 426 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: torture a real thing. Wasn't that at some point? Uh 427 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: that people did. I'm gonna look it up when I 428 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: think about it in my head. 429 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: It also makes me think it was an episode of 430 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: a cartoon or something. Yeah, like they had somebody tied 431 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: up and they put like a feather to their feet. 432 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: But I would tell, have you tickled me too much? 433 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't like being tickled now, Mike. Girls just found 434 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: out on the bottom of my feet and I had 435 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: to be listen, like you can't just like walk by 436 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: and like you know what I'm saying. 437 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: Okay, they're saying that tickle torture is a is more 438 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: of a TV trope than a real thing. 439 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: No shame that happens to me all the time. 440 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, no again, remind y'all, fucking idiot. But this website 441 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: called Dan Petrosini dot com claims that in ancient China, 442 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 2: tickle torture was used as a way to punish the 443 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: noble class. It was preferred over other types of discipline 444 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: because it left no marks and the victims will recover 445 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: fairly quickly. Is also used as a torture tool in 446 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: ancient Japan, where it was called merciless tickling. My favorite 447 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: historical reference depicted above has the tying a prisoner down 448 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: and then coding the bottom of their feet with salt water. 449 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: They would then bring out a goat who would lick 450 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: the salt off, igniting uncontrollable laughter. 451 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate. I hate that the goat 452 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: is involved. 453 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it worse somehow. Now I will say 454 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: that this article does not have any references or any 455 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: real uh I guess proof of the claim. So I 456 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: worry that it is just a person writing slightly racist 457 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: things about the past, you know what I mean. Where 458 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: you're just like, I bet the ancient Chinese did that shit, 459 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 460 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, ancient Chinese secret Yeah exactly. So the Wikipedia also 461 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: says that there's an article in the British Medical Journal 462 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: that describes the goat the goat licking, but it remains 463 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: unclear if this method was ever used in practice, as 464 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: it is only described in the fifteen or two Trakatas 465 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: did in Disease Tortura. You nailed that by the Italian 466 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: jurist and monk Franciscus Brunos, Das and Severino, a treatise 467 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: that actually cautioned against the torture in general. And while 468 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: it seems clear that he had not made up this practice, 469 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: the issue is left open whether the inclusion is based 470 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: on hearsay. 471 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I worry that some of this is just 472 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: rooted in hearsay. This article also claims that there's documented 473 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: evidence that Nazi guards tickled inmates and concentration camps in 474 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: order to torture them, and that feels like a lie 475 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: that I think that is a lie. There's no fucking 476 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: way in the world that in between gassing people to 477 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: death and shooting them in the head, they also were 478 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: tickling these motherfuckers. 479 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: They would Yeah, I think we have a lot of 480 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: documentary on what they did and it's all atrocious. I 481 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: don't think they were also like, yeah, tickle too. 482 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted the Jewish people to have 483 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: any fun. Yeah, even if it was fun against their will. 484 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: They were like, you're not fucking gonna get to. 485 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like not. I think it kind of does 486 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: a disservice to the legacy of what happened there. 487 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: Yes, well, maybe we don't trust everything that they're saying, 488 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: but it does sound like at least the the tropes 489 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: on television were rooted in some version of historical near 490 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: fiction that like, maybe there were theories on tickle torture 491 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: that that at some point were tried or or at 492 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: the very least considered by people. 493 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: Right, And I think I mean back to the base, 494 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: back to the root of the all this. I am 495 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: constantly of the fear that I'm gonna do to something 496 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: too much and get it stuck. So this plays right 497 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: into my I believe this one. Yeah, I don't. I 498 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: don't believe. Maybe I don't believe because I yeah, because 499 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: like my one brother that we tickled, he's fine, he's 500 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: a singer now, he's doing great, but like a lot 501 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: of billowy clothing. But that's that's for our family to 502 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: figure out. You know, here's what I'll say. 503 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't know that I believe that just tickling will 504 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 2: lead to a stutter. But I do believe, and I'm 505 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: gonna go out on a limb here, I do believe 506 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: that every single person with a stutter was maybe tickled 507 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: too hard at some point. 508 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't. 509 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Believe that tickling leads to stutters, but I do believe 510 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: there is a Venn diagram of motherfucker's getting tickled too 511 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: hard and now a stutter exists. And so I don't 512 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't know that we have the runway to be 513 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: able to create causality, right, like to say this is 514 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: definitively the cause. But I will say that I bet 515 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: they've all experienced a similar thing at some point. 516 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: To push back on that a little bit, Yeah, who 517 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: hasn't been tickled hard? I don't know. I don't. I 518 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: think everybody's at least. I mean, you have to come 519 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: from a pretty cold upbringing, you know what I'm saying. Like, 520 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Donald Trump's been tickled at all. I 521 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: think he was tickled as a baby. You think Donald 522 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Trump was tickled at some point, So I think a housekeeper, 523 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I think I think the Jamaican woman who raised him. Yeah, 524 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: I think she tickled it sometimes. 525 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's ever tickled that man wanted to not. 526 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: I think. I don't think you could come out of 527 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: childhood without getting tickled. I really don't. It's one of 528 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: the easiest games to play with the child. 529 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: It's one of the easiest games to play with the 530 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: child you have any affection for. And I think that 531 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: that there are some people who find themselves in childhoods 532 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: that are completely loose of affection. 533 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I think so. But even then, they never had a 534 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: friend's parent, they never had one somebody like a local pervert. 535 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Don't do that. I knew you were gonna do that. 536 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna do that. And I don't 537 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: think it's fair. I don't think it's fair right now, 538 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: because listen, we all, a lot of us maybe didn't 539 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: get the affection that was maybe needed as a child, 540 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: and we run run to things like the entertainment field 541 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: to fill that void. But even within that, we've all 542 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: been still been tickled. 543 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, I'm men tackled quite a bit. 544 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, kids get tickled, Kids get tickled. It happens, you know, 545 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: it's it's like also, if you don't know kids or something, 546 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: it's like a really easy go to What am I 547 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna ask you? How's the wife and kids? How's school going? No, 548 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tickle you, and then I'll be out, Like 549 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: let me get on that pits. Yeah, could you go 550 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: go somewhere? 551 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Hey, you go take care of yourself. Here's a cigarette. 552 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: The point is, I do think tickling is such a 553 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty because I and now now 554 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: maybe I'm overstepping, but I think that it's like crosses 555 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: even cultures. I feel like the whole world is tickling. 556 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, right, Like there's no there's no country where 557 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: they don't tickle children. I'd imagine. 558 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 2: I don't think so, But maybe that's our our own ignorance, 559 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: right Like I I truly don't know. 560 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, because I think that also in this is weird. 561 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I think in America we're a lot softer on babies 562 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: than other places are. Mm hmmm does that make sense? 563 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, like crely they're hard on babies. Bro, I 564 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: just a little baby. I think it's funny. I'll say, 565 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: my auntie like picking up my cousin by his leg 566 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: like ah, it's funny. 567 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: But I also think that in other places, while yes, 568 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: they can be quote unquote hard on babies, there also 569 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: is like a more of an intimacy created between parents 570 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: and their kids than sometimes in the United States. Like 571 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: real friend, my friend was telling me that there's this 572 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: practice that happens in a lot of international Asian households 573 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: where when a child is born, the mother will spend 574 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: like three months in the bed with the child. 575 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: That like, they will. 576 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: Just be in the bed all day long, nursing, spending 577 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: time cuddling, because it's both a chance for the mother 578 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: to recover but also to sort of build like an intimacy, 579 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: a comfort with this child. And I think because of that, 580 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: you really become fucking locked in as a unit, and 581 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: that child is like nurtured cared for in a way 582 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: that like in a fucking America you got to be 583 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: back to work in two weeks. 584 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: You know. 585 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: That luxury doesn't exist. So while we are quote unquote 586 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: presenting easier on our children, we are not necessarily giving 587 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: them the things that like other children are probably reaping. 588 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: God damn ain't that America in a nutshell? Fuck? Yeah, 589 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: fuck that fucked me up. 590 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: Well, It's disappointing when you find out that, like, oh 591 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: we we truly are just doing things wrong in some ways. 592 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: Right, because I mean, our babies take a long time 593 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: to take care of. H Did you read that? You 594 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: ever read that book Sapiens that you've torn? It goes 595 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: back to this idea of like standing up, We weren't 596 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: maybe ever supposed to be standing up, and because of it, 597 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: our babies come out under developed because it takes longer 598 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: to take care of our babies than like any other animals. 599 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it takes us way longer to become full 600 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: grown than every other type of animal. 601 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: And giraffes start out doing at all that. 602 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: Motherfuckers come out tall and ready flop to the ground 603 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: and get to work. 604 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this so fun. I got a draft fight 605 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: the other day. This is this is weird. Actually, I 606 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it. 607 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: What What do you mean? You got in a giraffe fight? 608 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: What me? Man? Can I guess what I think it is? Yeah? 609 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I what I know about how giraffe fight is 610 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: they slam their next into each other. Am I to 611 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: believe that you and another person were slamming your your 612 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: heads and next into each other. 613 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you selling Paris? 614 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: It's like weird now, No, it's definitely weird. I'm like 615 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: said it. It's like because me and my girl were 616 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: in the kitchen and we accidentally bumped heads and then 617 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: she she's like, let's fight like giraffes. There's only like 618 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Damn, man, you're in love. 619 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. That's really nice. Something's going on here, desire 620 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: being weird with a lady because she asked, that's what 621 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: love is. 622 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: Why I'm weird too though, So it's like I was like, yeah, yeah, 623 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I've never been in a draft fight. I'm not gonna 624 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: miss out when and it turns out if you have 625 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: a regular neck, it's real it's hard to get the angles. 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The Stuttering Foundation stutteringhelp dot Org 656 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 2: says there are four factors most likely to contribute to 657 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: the development of stuttering genetics. Approximately sixty percent of those 658 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: who stutter have a family member who does. 659 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: Also. 660 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: Child development, children with other speech and language problems or 661 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: development till delays are more likely to stutter. Neurophysiology, Recent 662 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 2: neurological research has shown that people who stutter process speech 663 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 2: and language slightly differently than those who do not stutter. 664 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: In family dynamics, high expectations and fast paced lifestyles can 665 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: contribute to stuttering. Stuttering may occur when a combination of 666 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: factors comes together and may have different calls and different people. 667 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: It is a probable it is probable that what causes 668 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: stuttering differs from what makes it continue or get worst. 669 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: No mention of tickling, but certainly elements inside of this 670 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 2: that feel like they. 671 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: At least are. 672 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: Speaking to the possibility of familial influence and physical I 673 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: guess nothing physical, but certain sociological influence in your home. 674 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean that in and of itself is scary that 675 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: you can put a lifestyle on a child that will develop, Like, 676 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: is it like a stress thing, like like my expeditions 677 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: and fact like the kids under so much stress. It's 678 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: just like even talking becomes difficult. 679 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like I mean, obviously you can't downplay 680 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: the sort of importance of family and neurological development being 681 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: like the probably the biggest players inside of the But 682 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: I imagine that like the stress of a fast paced household 683 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: or things not necessarily being as I guess, you know, helpful. 684 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: In the needs and. 685 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: Results of that one individual, because I don't want to 686 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: put it on some shit where it's like, oh, your 687 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: house is fucked up and that's why you stutter. 688 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's what they're saying. 689 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 2: I think they're more saying that, like, we all individually 690 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: have specific needs based on our own brains and like house, 691 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: and sometimes that need doesn't match what you have, and 692 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: that might lead to a little bit of a stutter. 693 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, because I'm glad it's not physical, because 694 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: there's time I was worried you were going to say 695 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: you could scare it into somebody. You ever scared a 696 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: kid a little too much? Oh? Fuck, have you ever 697 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: done that? Like, were you scared a kid and it 698 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: was like they got too scared? You know what? 699 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: I was so much a kid who did not like 700 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: being scared. How you're talking about how your little brother 701 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: not liking being tickled, That's how I felt about, Like, 702 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: motherfucker's hiding around corners and being spooky and shit, yeah, 703 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 2: I have chosen not to ever do that to my kid. 704 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: Like interesting, well a tailor two brothers again, both also 705 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: had the same reactions to being scared. 706 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: Oh, one of them really liked it and the other one. 707 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the obviously the tickle one, the fiend who as 708 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: an adult is not an adult. He's sixteen. But it's 709 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: like the more calm one of all of us. Now 710 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: he's the calmest one. Well, he also loved to survived trauma. 711 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: Don't do that, but he likes that. I grew up 712 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: in a hunted house, so I think I'll be okay. 713 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: He would like because when you would scare him, like 714 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: if you do the booth thing, he would get scared 715 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: and then he would laugh really really hard. 716 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 717 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: Whereas Martin the one you met, he did he so 718 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: he was very like he was kind of one of 719 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: those kids where he was which kids credit and he 720 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: carried on into adulthood, thank god. But he was very 721 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: quick to be like, I don't like that. 722 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: I think about you. You watch Ellen right in like back. No, 723 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: well I didn't mean literally, I just meant uh. In 724 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: the the You and the Royal sense. Okay, I didn't 725 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 2: presume that you were spending your mornings watching that white 726 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: lady dance and sneakers. 727 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think you did either. That's why I was 728 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of offended when you brought it up. No, no, no, 729 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: I I don't. 730 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 2: I do not watch Ellen, although you know, I thought 731 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: she was a pretty good lady until I found out 732 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: she wasn't. 733 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: And I don't mind talk though I will say it's 734 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: like kind of fun to watch, like the reel or something. 735 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: I like when it feels like you're actually having a 736 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 2: conversation with that person. I get more bored when it 737 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: feels like, oh, these are just cant bits during the day, 738 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: because then it's like, wow, if that's if I'm watching 739 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: and that, then I might as well wait till late 740 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 2: night where they'll tell their the naughty version of this story. 741 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: That's you know what I mean? You don't like watching 742 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: My Man and Michael Strahan. 743 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 2: No, I've never cared for him having a talk show once. 744 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: I actually think it's pretty offensive that this man with 745 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 2: brain damage gets to. 746 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: Be Come on, Michael Strahan, He's just a charming guy. 747 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it. I truly don't like 748 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: when this might be because you don't like football, though. 749 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: It might be, but I really don't like when sports 750 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 2: guys suddenly become like a sort of like media guys. 751 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 2: It fucking bugs me and I don't know why really, 752 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 2: but it don't sit right in my spirit when they 753 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: like suddenly become cute in our hands, because. 754 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: Deep down you just think their big gorillas paid to 755 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: smash each other. Because that's how it sounds, the way 756 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: you're talking. That's like me reading between the lines. And 757 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: this is I love Michael Strahan. I've always thought he 758 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: was charming. I loved him when he played football, like, 759 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, well he was on the Giants. He 760 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: was so much fun. And then he had that commercial, 761 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: big old Michael straighthand oh man, not that guy. I want. 762 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: I want to defend myself, but I guess a little 763 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: part of me is like, yeah, I don't think these 764 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: big old animals should be talking to fucking Sydney Sweeney. 765 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I can. I can feel it. I feel it 766 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: emanating from you. 767 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: I I just like when people stay in the lane 768 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 2: that they are strongest than and they buy it bugs 769 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 2: me when people find themselves in a lane that I 770 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 2: know is not where they're supposed to be. You know 771 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: what I mean that, Like, I get it. Michael Strahand 772 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: is the charming guy. He's handsome, he's he's fine, but 773 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 2: he's also like a glut with a lisp. And I 774 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: see though. 775 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's like some guys they make it great, 776 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: like Shack great media personality. 777 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: Shaq is a great media personality next to four got 778 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: three other guys who know how to talk. But Shaq, 779 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: he ain't supposed to be talking to regular people. 780 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: That's an insane takes. His voice is just deep. He's 781 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: not slow. Yes he is, David bro this is not 782 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: split list is a stupid person. You think Shaquille or 783 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: Shan O'Neill. 784 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 2: I listen, I don't. I don't mean to stretch this 785 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: into smart and not smart. That's not the point that 786 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make. I think you're extending it there. 787 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: I am saying that Shaq next to Kenny, Ernie and 788 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: Charles is phenomenal. But whenever they put Shaq next to 789 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: other people, you start to really tell that this motherfucker 790 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: ain't connecting dots the way he's supposed to connect dots. 791 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: There are those episodes where it's like him and Candace Parker, 792 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: and Candace Parker is exhausted by the end of that 793 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: ship because he is a hard man to talk to, 794 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 2: and he ain't throwing up no lobs to nobody. That's 795 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, is that under the right circumstances, I 796 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 2: listen to Shaq talk all day, but I'm not gonna 797 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: sit here and pretend that this is like a late 798 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: night talk show host. 799 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, he's no Arsenio Hall. No, that's fair. 800 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: He's not even DeVante Hale, who I don't even know 801 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 2: who that is. I assume our Sinio's slow cousin. 802 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: He's none of those people. I like the big fella. 803 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: I like Michael Strahan. 804 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: I my point before we got into this ugly tangent 805 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: my got dark was to say that I'd. 806 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. Jack. 807 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: You're Shaq, You're a wonderful speaker, and both your eyes 808 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: are looking in the same direction. 809 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because how do you feel about Kaem Abdul Jabbar. 810 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: I don't like that ship either. What the fuck are 811 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: you doing in the Veronica? That don't make no goddamn sense. 812 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: Lost a job. 813 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: He's very smart man, He's not funny. Why is he 814 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 2: writing in comedy rooms? 815 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: Is Veronica Mar's a comedy. I've never watched it. I 816 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: never watched it. I have never watched it. He's never 817 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: made us laugh once. I thought it was pretty funny 818 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: when he was doing that karate. 819 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 2: My point, if I can get to my point, Yeah, 820 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: My point was that on Ellen, they used to do 821 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: that thing where they would scare the shit out of 822 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 2: their guests. Every once in a while, somebody would be 823 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: sitting there and then like a producer or a scary 824 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: person would pop out from a box, the back whatever. 825 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: And you always see sort of these telling moments inside 826 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: of the celebrities of like the people who laugh it 827 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: off genuinely and the people who are laughing because if 828 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 2: they don't, they're worried they're going to lose their career. 829 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: But like are truly angry about what just happened to them. 830 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: And I think I fall much close, sir, to the 831 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: I would be truly angry, and not in a way 832 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 2: that I could like just keep chit chatting my life, 833 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 834 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: I could I do see that, and I would respect that, 835 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: and you, like I wouldn't. Nothing about you makes me 836 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: think you would like, I want to be scared. I 837 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: don't like that. Yeah, I could tell you. I feel 838 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: like it would take you out of your frame. I 839 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: feel like it would make you vulnerable in a way 840 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: that I don't think you would appreciate. 841 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 2: No, I've worked really hard to present a certain person 842 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 2: to the world. 843 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: Just you could make one noise and that shit would 844 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: called crumble. 845 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll be honest, I do be making weird noises. 846 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: Like I cried. 847 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 2: I cried so hard at our wedding, at like our wedding, 848 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 2: and one of those cries were like while I was 849 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 2: trying to say my vows, like oh, sound came out 850 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 2: and then I had to apologize to the to like 851 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 2: the entire to be like I'm sorry, y'all. I don't 852 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: know what that was, man, you know what I mean, Like, I. 853 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: Think it's crazy that you even told that story. I 854 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have told no. Oh yeah, my friend, I'm being yeah, okay, No. 855 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: Do you do you cry weird? Are you weird crying? 856 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: I think so. 857 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 2: I think it's because I try not to be crying 858 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: too hard and right, and it always makes that coyote 859 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: yelp happen. 860 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: That's see That's the thing about crying is you kind 861 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: of just gotta let it pass through, Like because if 862 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: you hold on to not crying, that ship Denni's that's 863 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: when it sounds goofy. You gotta just take the two 864 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: three big sobs and then get through it. 865 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, take a deep breath, let it out and then 866 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 2: uh and then be past it. 867 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah when you're holding on. No, I'm telling 868 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: you because I probably I probably a once every three years, 869 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: four years something like that. Yeah, So it's like I 870 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: know how to go through it. And it's also like 871 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: you just gotta make sure nobody's around. Man, get in 872 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: the shower, turn the water on, you know what I mean. 873 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: Blasts Yeah, blast that Mary J. Blige, not gonna cry 874 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: and just feel what you gotta feel. Damn. 875 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not there yet, but I'll work on it. 876 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm a man in constant change, in constant growth, and 877 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 2: I will grow beyond where I am and maybe I'll 878 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 2: grow to learn and understand Shack to be the the 879 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: brilliant thinker that you see him as. 880 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I'm just you would like you. 881 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: I think I don't think so I think like if 882 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: we hung out with the big fella, you don't think 883 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: you'd have a good time. 884 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 4: No. 885 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 2: I think he's probably a bully in real life. 886 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: Do you not like it because you would be so 887 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: much larger than you? 888 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 2: No, I genuinely think he takes a type of pride 889 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 2: in being so much larger than people that like, he's 890 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: the type of dude that will like bump you intentionally 891 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 2: and like sort of shake you a little bit. 892 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: And I don't like that. I could see him like 893 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: picking you up. 894 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, not in a way that we're both having fun 895 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: type ship. It's like, no, I want you to feel like, 896 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 2: look I could pick you up. 897 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look you're you're a small weak man to me. 898 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: Look and it's like you head, let me see a 899 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: little peep. He pulled my pants down. 900 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 2: He's like, look at it, look at it. That's nothing 901 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: compared to mine. 902 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: Look at that. 903 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 6: Ultimately we just unlocked with Your real fear is Yeah, 904 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 6: I don't want him to pick me up and expose 905 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 6: my little yeah, because when you say it does that 906 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 6: would be terrible. 907 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: Now that's the type of guy he is. I think, 908 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: look at it. Your wife, Your wife is there. This 909 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: is what you like? 910 00:51:59,640 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 4: Is it. 911 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: You vowed your life to this. 912 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like she's embarrassed. 913 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed and his voice is all low, so would 914 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: hurt even more. You'd be like Lester has a tiny penis. 915 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, people got their phone thought, oh man, yeah. 916 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: Why would you do this? He took your ship out 917 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: of Dantanni's. Come on, man, it's a good restaurant. Why 918 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 1: would you do that? It's our anniversary. 919 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 2: We invited you, hear me, my wife for our anniversary. 920 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's fair. He does use his size in 921 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: a way, and who amongst us would not No, I 922 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: don't blame him. 923 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not better than him. I just don't believe 924 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: that he would have good, good intentions for for me 925 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: and frankly you if we spent time with. 926 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: Him, maybe I think I could. I think I could 927 00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 1: get in there. 928 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 2: And I think that that's that's maybe some of the sickness, right, 929 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 2: is that we all find ourselves sort of believing in 930 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,439 Speaker 2: our heroes in a way that that maybe isn't completely true. 931 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: But and now, if I'm if I'm being honest with myself, 932 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: maybe I just love him because he was the biggest 933 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: blackest thing, and as a big black thing. I was like, 934 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I've always been big 935 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: nigga heroes, Bro, I've always been like big dark guys 936 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: who are making that's they have a space in my heart. 937 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: You know, Bro, I get it. 938 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of losers who are just light 939 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 2: skinned men that that I'm always going to root for 940 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 2: in a way that everybody else you know won't. 941 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: And I you have your kings as well. I'm sure 942 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: I have my kings. 943 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 2: And I can't walk away from that, and I'm not 944 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: going to pretend otherwise no matter what anybody says about them, 945 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: because it's just you made me feel seen in a 946 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 2: way that I needed when when no one else could. 947 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: Right, Like, there's nothing Ben Wallace could do that would 948 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: make me turn my back on it. 949 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I respect that, you know, Yeah, I get it. 950 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: Same thing for for Austin Rivers. 951 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: For me, you know what fucked up in my heart 952 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: of hearts and this is not this is just my 953 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,439 Speaker 1: immediate feeling to that. When you said that, I was like, yeah, 954 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: we are better. In my brain. In my brain, I 955 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: was like, this is said Austin Rivers, I'm talking about 956 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 1: Ben Wallace. I was you Austin Rivers. 957 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 2: But you know, he was the funniest name I could 958 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 2: think of at the time. 959 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's. 960 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 2: Anyways, to Corey, is that because we I think we 961 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 2: did it. I think I think we got really needed Corey. 962 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: To your question of whether or not tickling leads to stuttering, 963 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 2: I think we would be I responsible to say anything 964 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 2: other than that is not true. Your mother is wrong, 965 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 2: but she remains the funniest mom and she deserves the 966 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: Funniest Mom Award when that comes out. I don't know 967 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: when voting opens up, but she certainly has mine and 968 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 2: and David's vote. 969 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely. I tell you tell your mom. We say, Hi, 970 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: tell your mom. We say what's up? Hey girl, what's up? 971 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: Teller Langston licks his lips. 972 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, tell her, We said, Gorey, go tell your mom. 973 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: When we say that, when your mom comes from and 974 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: be like, where's my hug miss Brandy, Miss Brandy? Where 975 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: my hug at? I do I do want to know him? 976 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: For the record, I'm not aware my hug at type 977 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: dude at all. This is I know, No, you're not. 978 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: I'm joking. Yeah, that doesn't even that doesn't even fit 979 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: with your whole. 980 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 2: Get down, and that'd be devastating to find out about 981 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 2: a person you you know, to be like, oh shit, 982 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 2: that's who you are, because you. 983 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: Also seem like a guy who would get the hug 984 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: naturally anyways, because to be aware my hug at you. 985 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 2: Have to not yeah, you weren't gonna get a hug 986 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 2: you weren't. 987 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 1: Gonna get, which means you're already kind of maybe it's 988 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: a musty situation or just a general off putting in 989 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: that women don't want to embrace you. Yeah, exactly. 990 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: Can you tell the people where they can find you 991 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 2: on what cool shit you have going on? 992 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: A cool guy jokes eighty seven on Instagram? All the 993 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: stuff is there. I'm not touring too much right now, 994 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: but back in like June July, that's about to start 995 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: up again. So in the meantime, just watch Royal Crackers 996 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: come to the show, come to the live, come to 997 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: the live show for my birthday is gonna be great 998 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: at the Comedy Store May fifth lit. My MoMA told me, 999 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: we're trying to sell that bitch out so then we 1000 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: can in turn some more shows out eventually make them 1001 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: enough money to disappear and have us never have you, 1002 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: never see us again because ultimately we do not know you. 1003 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: We don't know you, and we're going to retire in 1004 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: the coreer, Miss Brandy. 1005 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: We know you, we know funny funny, so funny bro. 1006 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 2: As always, you can follow me at Langston Kerman and 1007 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 2: if you want to send us your own drops, your 1008 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 2: own conspiracy theories. If you want to tell us exactly 1009 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 2: where we can find Corey's mom, send it all to 1010 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 2: my mamapod at gmail dot com. We would love to 1011 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: hear from you. You can buy the the merch. I 1012 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: believe the website changed, so I don't remember what it is, 1013 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 2: but look it up. You'll find it. It's not that deep. 1014 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: And like subscribe, do whatever you're supposed to you on iTunes, 1015 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 2: do all that stuff so that we we get these 1016 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: numbers popping like they should. We we love all of 1017 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 2: our listeners and we're grateful for all you new listeners 1018 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 2: that keep coming in. And that's that's all the stuff 1019 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,439 Speaker 2: that we needed to say. 1020 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: Bye, bitch, my Quo chips and your. 1021 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 4: All quality bears are racist. The host layer host the 1022 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 4: money turkey stuff I can't tell me