1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Row Lady, days of sun, those days of soda and 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Patsus and ron Anian. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: It's been a case at the shop the last three weeks. 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: I'm noticing in the heat as summer is here that 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: we're seeing much higher battery failures, shops. 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Failure, a basket full of sandages. 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: And the car Doctor then locked the house up. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: Now, yes, sat, if you're riding around on a battery 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: that's three four years old and it looks like you're 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: growing cauliflower on the battery terminals, you probably need to 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: have the terminals cleaned, battery tested, and maybe replaced. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: The phone and call in. The girls are opening, but 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: I am here to take their calls. At eight five 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: five five six oh ninety nine hundred list dot summers 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: at all. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: And now hee. 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: Running. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: I think far As Gump was wrong. I don't think 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: life is like a box of chocolates. I think driveability 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: cars are because you're never quite sure what you're really 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: gonna get. Hello and welcome Bron and Any and the 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: guard Doctor here to carry on for the next two 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: hours talking about you and your automobile at eight five 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero, All Things 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 2: automotive or otherwise. If you've got a question or comment 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: or a concern, give us a call eight five five 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. The website for 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: this radio show as always Cardoctorshow dot com. You can 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: find more information there. TuneIn dot com, iHeart dot com, 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: iTunes dot com for podcasting and other show information as well. 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: If you need me during the week you got a 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: car problem, we can't get up here on airon talk 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: about it. Send it to me an email Ron at 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: cardoctorshow dot com. I think driveability cars are getting tougher 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: and I almost don't know if it's the car or 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: the person that owns them. Two situations this week at 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: the shop two thousand and four Volkswagen turreg Turg turreg 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: well VW virtually worth a six or one half a 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: dozen or the other and the check engine light had 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: been on for admittedly of the owner seven months. And 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: the reason we knew that was because this is July. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: The inspection was December. The check engine light's been on 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: since then, and he about a month, maybe a little longer. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing the check engine light's been on seven 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: to nine months and he's been driving it around. It 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: has a lean fuel system code. The reason I know 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: it has a lean fuel system code is because he 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: walked into the shop with his scan tool telling me 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: here's the code. I think it's intake. Guess it's what 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: can you do to fix it? Let me tell you 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: about the right and the wrong way to walk into 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: somebody's house. And I kind of take it personal, and yeah, 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: you know, I was asking. I was talking to Sue 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: last night. We were having dinner at this little Italian 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: restaurant again, and I said, you know, maybe my ego's 60 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: a little too fragile. I don't know. But when somebody 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: walks in and says to me, here's what's wrong with 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: the car, how are you going to fix it? And 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: I haven't even walked outside, gotten as signed repair, haven't 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: even gotten to the point where I've lifted the hood, 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: and I'm being put on the spot. You know, give 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: me a break, walked outside, looked at the car, it's 67 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: it's used up, worn out, eighty thousand mile oh four 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Volkswagen that's been road hard, put away, wet, and it really, 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: I won't say should have been shot, but it's getting close. 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: The driver's door doesn't open from the inside anymore. The 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: owner admitted that it needed breaks. It's had this check 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: engine light issue ongoing for quite some time now, and 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: I explained to him that check engine light is the 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: mystery because once you saw that twenty one to eighty 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: nine lean fuel condition bank one fault that his scan 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: tool said was the issue that you've then got the 77 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: problem of is there anything else there? It's layered, you 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: don't know. We ended up sending that car to the 79 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: dealer because he wanted to know me or the dealer, 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: and I said the dealer, because walk into the dealer 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: and show them the scan tool and see what they 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: do to you. Second driveability car this week was an 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: O eight Ford Fusion eight Ford Fusion that had a 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: rolling idol between six and eight hundred doar pm and 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: went through every test and diagnosed it the way it 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: should have been. After Ford diagnosed it and two other 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: shops diagnosed it and came to the conclusion that it's 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: a bad throttle body. A five hundred dollars part is 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: that the only thing wrong with it. G I don't know. 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: I've got to get through this. I've got to go 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: one step at a time. I can prove the throttle 92 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: body bad. I don't know how the rest of the 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: car is because I can't test beyond that point. Like 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: to get. The owner intends to take it to a 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth, or sixth or seventh shop, I'm not 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: sure what answer he's looking for, but obviously here's what's 98 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: wrong with the car. I can prove it isn't something 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: to satisfy him. The bottom line, it becomes that you 100 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: as the owner, you as the vehicle decision maker. It's 101 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 2: a lot like caretaking for somebody older or for yourself. 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: You've got to have a clear mind what it is 103 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: you're looking for before you go out looking, and you've 104 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: got to understand that when you're talking to a mechanic 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: sometimes the worst thing in the world to say is 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: here's what's wrong with it, how are you going to 107 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: fix it? Or gee, what if that doesn't fix it? 108 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: And instill some doubt into the conversation. You've got to 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: get used to the idea that auto repair going forward, 110 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: there is going to be that eighty percentile guess that 111 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: hopefully he's a good guesser and a good diagnostician that's 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: going to get you down to that point of here's 113 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: what's wrong with the car. Hello, and welcome Ron and 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: Andy and the car doctor. 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 5: Here. 116 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: We're going to roll along this hour. Coming up next hour, 117 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking to Mark Eaton. Mark is from Dens, 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: so we're going to be talking to him about a 119 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: ridium and they're iridium TT spark plugs. But right now 120 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: we have a very full phone bank and fast Tarry's 121 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: looking at me through the glass with a pained expression 122 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: on his face, saying open the doors. So let's fire 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: him up. Let's go over to Rick in New Haven, Connecticut, 124 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: two thousand and one buikh century and some break caliber questions. Rick, 125 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car Doctor, sir, All right, what's going on? 126 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: Well, I'm thought I have a sticking break caliper, and 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: I was wondering anything I could do about that until 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 5: I replace it. 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Not really, you know when you say you've got a 130 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: sticking caliper. What are the breaks pull left or right? 131 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: Rick another? 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, generally a squeal is a is a compound 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: issue and not necessarily a stuck caliber issue. If a 134 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: break caliper is sticking, the vehicle, by all rights should pull. 135 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Even the slightest little bit of a break caliper that's 136 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: hanging is going to cause unequal pressure in the system 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: and the vehicle will have a bit of a drift 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: to the left or the right. Now, you know, we 139 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: should also see breaks wearing more to one side than 140 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: the other. Who who's saying that the caliper sticking. 141 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 5: I'm a friend with more experience than me. 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: Okay. Any reason why you're waiting to repair it? 143 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, finances? 144 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: Okay, well, and that's a fair statement. Just keep in 145 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: mind if the brakes do become a problem, and there 146 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: is an issue and they don't work, the repair bills 147 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: are only going to go up from here. So you know, 148 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: keep in mind too that breaks stick or break caliper 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: issues aren't necessarily going to be a squeal all by themselves. 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Generally it's compound. It could also be that the brake pads, 151 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, whatever lubricant was supposed to be there. Now, 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: the brake pad could be stuck on the caliper, not 153 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: allowing it to float all right, because the caliber the 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: pad has to float against the rotor to a degree. 155 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: A little bit of silicon grease and the right spots 156 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: goes a long way to preventing squeal. But if the 157 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: way the pad is mounted is correct, if that break 158 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: caliper itself is mechanically stuck, then you should have other 159 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: issues going on here. My suggestion is, before you wait 160 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: too much longer, take it apart. See what kind of 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: shape the breaks are really in, and if it's something 162 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: you can't do, have a professional do it, because bad 163 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: breaks is nothing to fool around with, and it keeps 164 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: you safe and it keeps me safe. As I'm driving 165 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: along in the car next to you. Let's go over 166 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: to Paul in Norway, Maine. I guess that couldn't be Norway, Norway. No, 167 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: we don't have that kind of reach. See what's going 168 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: on here with this two thousand and one cameray, Paul, 169 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car, doctor sir, How are you pretty good? 170 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 6: How are you doing good? 171 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: What's going on? 172 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 6: Well, I'll get a two thousand and one camera and 173 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: it's a five speed with a two point two, and 174 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 6: I bought it for fun, and it's like a second 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 6: a third vehicle. 176 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: Actually, what's kind of neat a five speed camera? You 177 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: don't see many of those. 178 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why you bought it. YEA had the five speed? 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. So what's going on that? Well? 180 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 6: I had it out of service for a while, and 181 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: when I went to put it back into service, it 182 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 6: would start up and it'll run for a few seconds 183 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 6: and then it will quit. Okay, and uh, it got 184 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 6: worse and worse, and now it just starts. It fires. 185 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: You see the tacometa needle go up, and then it quits, 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 6: and then you can hear the fuel pump working to repressurize. 187 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 6: I guess it's something. And then I try it again 188 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: it does the same exact thing. 189 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 5: All right. 190 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this. Once it goes 191 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: into this dead it won't start mode. Have you checked 192 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: to see do you have spark? 193 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 6: I'm imagining that I do, because it seems to fire. 194 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: It fires, right, but but but I'm imagining that maybe 195 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: you don't, simply because it fires and dies, so it 196 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: has spark when you go to start it, it doesn't 197 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: have spark, otherwise it would keep running. We won't be 198 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: having this phone call right right, so and the play Well, no, 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: how about we take how about we take a coil 200 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: wire out of off a spark plug. Do you have 201 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: a spark plug, tester pole, a larger gap plug? Yeah, Well, 202 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: let's look it up. Let's see if we've got spark, 203 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: and we should have. We should have an angry orangish 204 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: hot blue white spark color kind of thing going on there, 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: and it should be an extended gap plug. And if 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: you can fire the coil, then we know it's not spark, 207 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: and that eliminates about half the possible problems this could be. 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: If it has spark, then my next question is going 209 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: to be does it have injector pulse? And probably the 210 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: easiest way for you to tell me that is if 211 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: you don't have one, go buy a mechanic stethoscope. Listen 212 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: to the injectors. Do they click, they'll click when it runs? 213 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: Do they continue to click when it goes into that 214 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: crank no stark condition? Do those two tests call me 215 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: back next week? 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: All right, I'll do that, all right. 217 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: Kitt Well, thank you, and you keep us posted eight 218 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero the 219 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: Card Doctor's twenty four to seven phone number. Give us 220 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: a call anytime, day or night and leave a message 221 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: fast Harry. We'll call you back. I'm running dye in 222 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 223 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: run an Indie in the Car Doctor here. If you're 224 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: new to us, we want to thank you for stopping by. 225 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: If you've been here a while, we want to thank 226 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: you for sticking around. This radio show for you newbies 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: is all about your car and it's problems. So if 228 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: you've got a question, if your mechanics beating you up, 229 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: if the car doesn't seem to make sense, if gee, 230 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: the last build seem too expensive to me, then give 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: us a call. Eight five five five six zero nine 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: nine zero zero will help break it down, and I'll 233 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: put it into a language in a way that you 234 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: can understand it and listen. Maybe your mechanic's wrong, though, 235 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: we can kind of talk about that too. But this 236 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: radio show's here for you, and it's dictated by the 237 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: calls and the questions that you ask, and that's how 238 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: we run this show and have for the past twenty 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: four plus years. Let's get over and talk to John Shadyside, Ohio, 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, Honda Civic and some problems with a 241 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: fuel level center. John, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 242 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: How can I help? 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, I. 244 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: Ran out of options because nobody can get the part, 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: and I was wondering at first any way that I 246 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: can get a fuel sensor, any fuel sensor would work 247 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 4: in that car. 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 249 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Well, let's see two eighty three. What am I saying? 250 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: Eighty three? 251 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my dad's car. He passed away, and I'm 252 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: trying to restore it a little bit, you know, running. 253 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean, the car is only thirty two years old. 254 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: It's still got some life left in it. I think, 255 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: you know. My one question would be before I talk 256 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: about getting a replacement part, John, is is it that 257 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: the gas doesn't work? Have you pulled the fuel level 258 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: cender out? Do you know that it's bad? 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 260 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the gas that in the tank, okay for 261 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: twenty years. Okay, so I just decided, you know, to 262 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: give it a shot. 263 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, then the next question I've got is that the 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: fuel level cender went bad and it, you know, because 265 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: the gas turned to gelatine and whatever else. It varnished 266 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: down into what's the inside of the tank look like. 267 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: No, No, the dealers they they they can can't get 268 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: a new tank. Okay, they can't get a answor Okay. 269 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: So you know, all that sensor is, all that sending 270 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: unit is is a potentiometer. It's a variable resistor. So 271 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 2: I've got to think, with a little bit of creativity 272 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: and ingenuity that it can't be the most impossible thing 273 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: to transfer another sending unit that has the same range 274 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: value and resistance value to make that gauge work. What 275 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: I would tell you to do, is it if we 276 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: were at the shop. I have this device, it's called 277 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: a variable potentiometer, and all it is is just a 278 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: big riist at It lets me very resistance in a 279 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: circuit so I can get things to do what I 280 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: want them to do. It's basically a fuel level cender. Now, 281 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: most fuel level cenders are zero to ninety oms. Sometimes 282 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: they're they're they're ten to one hundred and twenty oms. 283 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: They vary by car manufacturer. If you put a if 284 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: you put a potentiometer, a variable potentiometer to that signal 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: line back to the gauge and measure Wear's e Wear's full. 286 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Then you just got to find a potentiometer that matches 287 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: that range and then attach it to the sender. 288 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but where do you get this? 289 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Well, what the actual part, the replacement part? 290 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: No, any of them that would work. I'm not pick a. 291 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: Car once you. Once you. The most important thing, and 292 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: my point is the most important thing is to know 293 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: what range cender you're looking for. 294 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I don't know that. 295 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm not mechanic, right, Well, the mechanic would have to 296 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: know that, John, That's what I'm trying to tell you, Okay, 297 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: all right. So in other words, the mechanic would have 298 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: to have the smarts to understand that a gas gauge 299 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: is a variable resistor circuit. All right. Let me explain 300 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: it like this. If the gas gauge didn't work in 301 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: the days of nineteen eighty three, eighty five, ninety ninety 302 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: five and so on, we would get out of variable 303 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: potentiometer and we would do a sweep test of the gauge. 304 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: We'd put it at zero, bring it up towards the 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: top end. We watched the gauge go from E to F. 306 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: All right, So he's got to do the same thing 307 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: to that car. In doing that, he's going to determine 308 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: what the range of that sender is. Once he knows that, 309 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: then it's a simple matter of referencing a later model 310 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: vehicle and saying, and I would probably start to look 311 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: somewhere in the mid nineties, because I'm sure sending units 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: are available for those, and say, okay, a sending unit, 313 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: for example, for a ninety five civicx Aveil. I'd find 314 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: one and transfer over that sending unit to the existing 315 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: one that's in the car. And it can't be that 316 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: hard to do. Fabrication of parts isn't the most impossible 317 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: thing in the world. Where there's a will, there's. 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: Away, So there's a way to do it if you find. 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: The right If you can find somebody that understands variable 320 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: resistance and how and how to really understand how a 321 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: fuel gage circuit works, then you can find somebody to 322 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: repair this. If all your mechanic can do right now 323 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: is swap parts, then all you can do. All you've 324 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: got is a parts swapper. And that's why you're confused 325 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: about it, all right, This is this is a fairly 326 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: simple circuit and a fairly simple problem. I wouldn't let 327 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: something like this stand in your way and keep you 328 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: from getting this car repaired. So good luck to you. John. 329 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: If you need more information, send me an email ron 330 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: at cardoctorshow dot com and we can kind of pick 331 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: it up and go from there. Hey, listeners, just real 332 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: quick before we pull over and take the pause. My 333 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: spies tell me and I've got some updated info. Buick 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: Is just has just unveiled with the twenty sixteen Cascadia. Wow, 335 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: you've got to google this Cascadia cisca DA. What a 336 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: good looking convertible this is. And you can see where 337 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: General Motors is going with this car. If the mechanicals 338 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: are correct and the mechanicals work, they're taking square aim 339 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: at BMW and Audi for this and everything's going to 340 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: that European look. But the Cascadia, I saw pictures of it, 341 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: and I was quite impressed and pleased to see how 342 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: they're how they're changing their design. It comes out as 343 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: a convertible. It's got a very sleek windshield. The top 344 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: goes up and down and in only seventeen seconds they 345 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: can lower the top up. Speeds up to thirty one 346 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: miles an hour the spec say, and it's got a 347 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: very wind swept exterior design. So you know you can 348 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: see ton what do you think? Let me turn this around, 349 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: ton look at that? Is that a sharp looking car? Yeah? 350 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: I got thumbs up from Tony. Tony knows, so the 351 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: Tony and all his boys are like that. And take 352 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: that out for a road. So a lot of technology 353 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: out there and a lot of good looking car that 354 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 2: General Motors is coming up with and part and parcel 355 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: real quick. One last thought on John's problem. One of 356 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: the things I see people make mistakes with is the 357 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: part's not available. That means I can't fix the car. 358 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: That's not the case. What you've always got to do 359 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: when you're faced with a no part available scenario is 360 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: how does the circuit work? And then make a part 361 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: from there. It's not that car companies make parts anymore. 362 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: They subcontract them out, and a lot of things are very, 363 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: very similar, So always understand what you're working on before 364 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: you try going to solve the impossible. I'm running any 365 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: of the car doctor. We'll be back right after this