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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two, twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of day Zgeist of production by Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It is Thursday, March tenth two.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. A k eat ship from

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Speaker 1: bananas b A n A n us that is courtesy

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Speaker 1: of Christie am Gucci. Main reference to the little part

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Speaker 1: of the banana a little like nub at the end

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Speaker 1: that is gross. I always feel like I'm eating like

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Speaker 1: a belly button or something. Anyways, the bananas well named

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Speaker 1: by someone on Reddit whose name I don't remember but

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Speaker 1: shout out to. Yeah. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: by today's special guest co host, a producer behind shows

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Speaker 1: like Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Welcome to our show. You've

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Speaker 1: heard her on Pop Culture, Happy Hour, read her at Vulture,

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Speaker 1: The a V Club, Team, Boat Past, many more. She

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Speaker 1: is the brilliant and talented Joel Money. Usually I like

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Speaker 1: to give air horns when I come in, but today

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Speaker 1: is day two without coffee, and apparently it's affecting me.

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Speaker 1: I've been so moody all over Playlis. I got really

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Speaker 1: mad because my playlist wouldn't work. It's a little embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I control my emotions when I don't have coffee?

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Speaker 1: But it's not happening. So I just got in grace

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Speaker 1: it on for health reasons, energy reasons. What do we

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Speaker 1: what are we doing now? I was having horrible panic

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Speaker 1: attacks and I didn't even really clock it until Justin

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Speaker 1: pointed out the other day. He was like, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: all the caffeine. And I was like, right, because like

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Speaker 1: I medicated for all of my things now, like I've

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Speaker 1: I've been good to go. And then I added espresso

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Speaker 1: and it it messed up the calm of my spirit?

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Speaker 1: Did I have to go off it? But I really

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Speaker 1: really induce two It's how I woke up every morning.

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Speaker 1: So I I've switched Tamacha like a month and a

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Speaker 1: half ago because I live in l A and I've

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Speaker 1: lived here for a way too long. And I felt

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Speaker 1: like I had the flu for about a week. But

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Speaker 1: one of it's good, it like keeps me a little

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Speaker 1: bit more kind of leveled out, unless like spiky. But

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Speaker 1: one of the benefits is that now coffee like even

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Speaker 1: like shitty you know what, whatever coffee is available like

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Speaker 1: is like cocaine. Once again, it's pretty cool. So I recommend,

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Speaker 1: I recommend getting off coffee, except for like when you

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Speaker 1: need just absurd boosts of you know, insane energy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have to figure something out because this ty tea

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Speaker 1: is tasting like water. It's really not hitting. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. I mean it's not good, but

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a substitute worth testing. I need a

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Speaker 1: roasted bean flavoring. Okay, I need full body flavor to

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Speaker 1: smooth me into my morning. I'm gonna figure it out. Internet,

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Speaker 1: you figured out for me and then out, I think, Joel.

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Speaker 1: We are fortunate to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a hilarious comedian, one of our favorite guests on

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Speaker 1: t d Z, Dave Girl wants touched for arm and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're pretty funny. You can see her on stages everywhere

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Speaker 1: from California to London, Berlin, Singapore. Go follow her on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and then watch her set from Punchline SF last week.

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Speaker 1: It is brilliant and such a blast and makes me

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Speaker 1: excited to go see stand up comedy again. It is

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Speaker 1: Lydia Papa. Here's your airhorns. Oh my god, I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited talk Joel, I have a solution for you. Then, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a solution for you. There is a product

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Speaker 1: that is I won't say the brand name because a

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Speaker 1: brand whatever, right like I'll say, I'm not giving anybody

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Speaker 1: any free advertisement. But there is a mix that is

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Speaker 1: chi te flavored like espresso, and I think it has

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Speaker 1: a little bit of espresso in it, but like pretty

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Speaker 1: miniscule amounts, and it is so delicious. It's a little powder.

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Speaker 1: It comes in a canister. It's made in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: You put it into water and you can put it

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Speaker 1: into coconut milk, you can put it into regular milk,

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Speaker 1: you can put it into whatever milk you want. Give

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Speaker 1: it a little and then next thing you know, you

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Speaker 1: have a delicious coffee tinged like low caffeine beverage. I

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Speaker 1: got you, I got you every time I passed. Cassie

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Speaker 1: saved my life a little. Thank you so much. Really,

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Speaker 1: I am. I am full of lots of lots of

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Speaker 1: little things. I don't know a lot about a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I know a little about a lot. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense as it does? Yes? Exactly? Hell yeah up

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Speaker 1: the butt Yeah is super caffeinated just like you. Know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, But it doesn't smack you in the face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: different different properties, right, It's it's the real, the real

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Speaker 1: kicker about coffee. And I love coffee, and I think

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Speaker 1: coffee gets a bad name, but I do think the

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Speaker 1: now I've got it to literally like I have a

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Speaker 1: I'm fine the rest of the day. That's the only

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Speaker 1: way you got to do it. If you're having that

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Speaker 1: like one thirty iced coffee, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: If you are, that's that's the slippery slope, man. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a young person's game. That's a young person's game.

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Speaker 1: I remember the college down in three of these a day,

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Speaker 1: just like, what's happening. That's that's vodka clock though, So

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Speaker 1: we're fine. You just switch over vodka clock, Lydia, how

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Speaker 1: now I feel like people are really out, Like they're out,

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Speaker 1: they're sitting in the chairs, they're excited to take their

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Speaker 1: live performer. It's incredible. Yeah, that's interesting. There's like an

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Speaker 1: What are the audiences like are you finding because as

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Speaker 1: Be public drunk, have a good time. A lot of

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Speaker 1: Like why is this a whole of like what is

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Speaker 1: and I don't like seeing it fetishized, and I don't

424
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: like seeing it just sort of like these girls are like, oh,

425
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how to cook, so like I'm in

426
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: a microwave this and then show you this paper plate

427
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, she's a she's a wife. Now

428
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: it's like no, it's you're gonna lose the entirety of

429
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: your man with that weight. Like that's just learn how

430
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: to cook. Just learn how to cook. What is something

431
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Persistence? I think that people need

432
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: to be more persistent. It's really difficult to achieve your goals, right,

433
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to achieve your dreams. And I think

434
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: it's one thing to like dream up what you want

435
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: to do, dream up what you want to see, dream

436
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: up want you want to get, and it's another thing

437
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: to actually follow through and start traveling down that path

438
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: and getting to it. Right, Whether that's something as simple

439
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: as like you know, me finding a Dolly Parton pinball

440
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: machine that I've been looking for for ten years, or

441
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: it's like I want to be an ice skater, right,

442
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: like whatever it is. I just think that a lot

443
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: of the time we just give up, right, Like you

444
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: couldn't find it, You couldn't you know, you're not that

445
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: great at skating, Like, oh, I guess I'm not going

446
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: to be a skater, Like just keep trying, like keep going,

447
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: because you will get what you want if you keep

448
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: doing it, you know. And of course, like it's just

449
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: in my head because I did. I got this fucking

450
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton pinball machine that I really have been looking

451
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: for for ten years, and any other normal, sane person

452
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: would have just given up, but like, no, my psychotic

453
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: ass and persistent ass was like, no, no, no, I'm

454
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: going to literally look online twice a month and try

455
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: to find one that isn't good conditionally, like in one

456
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: day I will find it. And I did, and now

457
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: I have it and it's beautiful and I love it.

458
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: But wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for persistence. You

459
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: set an alarm like on this day every month, or

460
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: it was just that much of a like goal for

461
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: you that you just like, like, we're doing it regardless

462
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: you were you were searching for the Dolly Parton pinball

463
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: machine that much of a goal for me. And also

464
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: I just like, like I have weekly searches that I

465
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: do for random Dolly Parton stuff because like I said,

466
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: I have a problem. So it's just like it's part

467
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: of my search, you know what I mean. It's just like, Okay,

468
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking for things today. Like I kind of always

469
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: had this list of little things of like, oh, I

470
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a new Dolly parton things here or there,

471
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: and so I would always be like when I'm in

472
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: that mindset, and some days I just wake up and

473
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I think about it, like when I this machine. That's

474
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: how I got it. I woke up in the morning

475
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I have to look for the

476
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: pinball machine in a minute. And that's because I I

477
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: lost one at auction two months ago and I was

478
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: really upset about it and I just was like, I

479
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: don't want to think about it. I don't want to

480
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: think about it. And I thought it was like I'm

481
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: never going to find one that was that good. And

482
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: then I woke up like three weeks ago and was like,

483
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna look And I went on

484
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: eBay and there it was. Yeah, the Dolly party ball

485
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: machine is behind Lydia. We can see it and the

486
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: shot it was on when the meeting the zoom started

487
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: and it's a thing of beauty. It's well well worth it,

488
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, you had like people fix it up for

489
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: you and ship. Well it was, it was all fixed up.

490
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: I found I found it on eBay. Then yeah, I

491
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: was on eBay and the machine was all done. It

492
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: had been refurbished and had just been serviced and had

493
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: just gone through like all these things. It had all

494
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: original parts. That was really important to me because I

495
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: found a bunch of them that like have been reboxed

496
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: and they don't have the original cabinet or like they

497
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: have different flippers so they have like a new backplate

498
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: or something. And I really wanted like the nineteen seventy nine,

499
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: like the original version, and I found it and it

500
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: ended up being from this really cool shop in Florida

501
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: that like that's what they do is they just restored

502
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: in balls. They're just like super indopin ball. So I

503
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: really lacked out. It was just like very serendipitous, and

504
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: I offered the guy less than what he had it

505
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: on for eBay and he took it. So I was like, hell, yeah,

506
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: that's the best. Yeah, yeah, that was a big deal.

507
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, but persistence, man, just like stick to it.

508
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: And you've been on the you've been on the Dolly

509
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: thing since well before the rest of the world figured

510
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: it out. But yeah, I'd like I'd like to say

511
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: that I helped contribute to spreading the good word. I'm

512
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: kind of like the like the Johnny Apple seat of

513
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton. I feel like I've been talking about it

514
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: for so long and it's so wonderful to see everybody

515
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: catch up and be like, oh, ship, I get it.

516
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: Like more people in the last four years have told

517
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: me I understand why you like Dolly Parton so much,

518
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you mean you don't think I'm

519
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: psychotic anymore? You get it now? Great? Very cool. She

520
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: seems she's right about everything, down to asking Taco Bell

521
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: to bring back the Meximle pizza like it's for real.

522
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: When I saw that, I was like, Yo, is this

523
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: angel really going to make this happen because I'm tired

524
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: of making these at home? And I was like, I will.

525
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: I don't even no man, I will get if she

526
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: brings it back. I will get a tattoo of a

527
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: Mexican pizza with Dolly Parton on top of said Mexican pizza.

528
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: On my life. That would be the Mexican pizza tattoo

529
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: would be pretty hot. Actually, that'd be that'd be sick.

530
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I'd like that. I mean, I might, I might, just

531
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: didn't think about that as a yeah, all right, let's

532
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back and

533
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: talk about going back to the office. And we're back.

534
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: And Joe Biden last week during the State of the

535
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: Union said people working from home can feel safe and

536
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: begin to return to their office, and now he's doubled

537
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: down calling for an end to remote work. I think

538
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: that was last week, but I don't know. I'm I'm

539
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: kind of seeing this the sentiment prevent aid like that.

540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: There was a New York Times piece from yesterday that

541
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: was this person being like, you know, they like the

542
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: vaccine really helped, but none of this other stuff working

543
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: from home and stuff didn't help. Uh. And in fact,

544
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: it caused people to die in more vehicle crashes. And

545
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: like linked off to an article, which would have led

546
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: you to believe that he was linked off to a source,

547
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: but he was linking off to his own article that

548
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: blamed blamed the lockdown for more vehicle crashes. Uh. And

549
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: the only thing in that article was a psych professor

550
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: who was like, we're just angry or now that we're

551
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: locked down, We've talked before about how the more likely

552
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: explanation for the increase in serious car crashes while we

553
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: were locked down is that our roads are horribly designed

554
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: and only work if there's like stop and go traffic

555
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: because cars can't get going fast enough to kill each other.

556
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: But you know, like that that just like sort of

557
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: slow bleed from on high down to like these New

558
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: York Times pieces of just like time to go back

559
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: to the office. We all want to go back to

560
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: the office. It's proof that America want and it just

561
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: really sticks out because all everything like my lived experience,

562
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: and then when you go and actually do the research,

563
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: it seems like people were happier and did better work

564
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: from home, Like it doesn't It doesn't make sense to like,

565
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I still haven't heard a good reason, and they're wild

566
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: if they think people are going back, like it's not

567
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: going to happen. It's such a strange phenomenon that we're

568
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: seeing people say like, oh, let's return to how things were.

569
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: These were not great beforehand, think back, really try. We

570
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to the office for a

571
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: ba jillion reasons, but I think predominantly because the work

572
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: life balance for most people is in chaos, and at

573
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: the very least, if you're home you can be with

574
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: or people, you can like run out and pick up

575
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: your kids real quick without a whole bunch of people

576
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: looking over your shoulder like why is she leaving the

577
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: office and what's happening? The number of calls to King

578
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: people in their car trying to run an errand where

579
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: before you have to like take time off work, not

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: something a lot of people can do to like run

581
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: to the bank during its open hours to I don't know,

582
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: get alone, or whatever it is you need to do

583
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: to survive. It's it's impossible to think of going back

584
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: to life the way it was before the pandemic. And

585
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing I heard about, like why this

586
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: push might be happening is because of gas and they're

587
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: worried that people aren't driving enough, and they're like, you've

588
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: gotta buy more oil right now, So back to the office,

589
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: go get your morning commute on, which if true, disgusting, Yeah, disgusting.

590
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: Our planet is dying. It's just it's like a whole

591
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: bunch of compounded things, and the idea that we're just

592
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: going to return to normal, we could not possibly even

593
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: if we wanted to it's wild too, because I think

594
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm mean, I think I agree with you. I think

595
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: it really is like a very bad, bad, bad way

596
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, gas, like gas is expensive, we

597
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: need to do this medea to keep supporting this industry.

598
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: But I also think that there's a fear from a

599
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of corporate employers, in particular that there used to

600
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: be pre pandemic sort of this culture and a lot

601
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: of these companies a culture of fear, right like, if

602
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: you are not physically seen doing work and being productive

603
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: and producing, if you're not the first one in and

604
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the last one out, if you're not always available regardless

605
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: of time, if you're not willing to burn that midnight oil,

606
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: right there's someone else right behind you that's willing to

607
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: do it. And a lot of places really depended upon

608
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: that sort of culture of fear and that culture of

609
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: missing out, and that culture of sort of visibility and

610
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: transparency with you know, if I don't run into the

611
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: boss and the elevator, then like this will never happen,

612
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what they did to keep people

613
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: employed and also to make them work harder. And now

614
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: that that whole culture has literally been killed, right because

615
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: everyone's been leveled out. People have in their bosses and

616
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: their freaking pajamas, you know what I mean, People are

617
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: having these same struggles. It's really kind of flattened and

618
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: leveled it out. Or you have people that have not

619
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: shown anything and are still in offices even when they

620
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been because they're so there. There's this discord, right,

621
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: or this you know disconnect now what people are like, Oh,

622
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: my boss is an evil boss, my life has more meaning,

623
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I could probably be happy or not working. I mean,

624
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I think it's also about unemployment rates, right, and about

625
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: keeping soldiers in line so that we can you know,

626
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: buy houses, so that we can have extraneous money, so

627
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: that we can also have to buy fashionable clothes because

628
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: now we all wear soft fuzzies, you know what I mean,

629
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: And and we're not selling enough our money suits. Like

630
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: it's just there's so many commerce things that are tied

631
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: into this that like, it sickens me a little bit.

632
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: It's silly. You're also seeing a workers revolution, like across

633
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the United States and across industries as well. It's happening

634
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: in tech, it's happening in factories, Like there is a

635
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: push for workers rights that's occurring in the same way

636
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: that there was a push for black rights and defunding

637
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: the police when we were getting money for free and

638
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: at home and had time to think about these things.

639
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: I think there's very much, probably not consciously, but a

640
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: blowback from that of this is getting out of hand

641
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: and we do not have control, and it's better if

642
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: we go back to the way things were when we

643
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: have that control. Yeah. I think it freed up so

644
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: much time that people like have more time to just

645
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: think about things. I think you guys are dead on.

646
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: I also think there's a big push from America's underrated villain,

647
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: which is really the real estate industry. Like you can

648
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: you can see it in you can see it in

649
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: Biden speech where he says it's time for America to

650
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: get back to work and fill our great town downtowns

651
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: again with people. So like, yeah, he he what he

652
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: wants people to be back in offices and in these

653
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: regions that have been abandoned, and you know the real

654
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: estate is yeah, well you hear somebody works for x

655
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: on and you're like, okay, that that person's fucked up.

656
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: But like you hear people so many people were in

657
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: real estate and It's like real estate is a really

658
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: really industry, Like it's a super shady industry, and it's

659
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: it's based on presentation and lies, it's based on negotiations,

660
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's ever flexing. And

661
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: it's wild to think about two because obviously this pandemic

662
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: spurred a huge sort of housing issue, right, you know,

663
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: people losing their homes, not being able to aford their homes.

664
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, a ton of people

665
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: moving to areas so that they can buy homes and

666
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: driving prices up, you know what I mean. I certainly

667
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: am part of that problem myself. You know, I left

668
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: California and came to Tennessee, where you know, it was

669
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: much cheaper, but at the same time, the prices like

670
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: have Quinn tupled since I've been here. It's ridiculous to

671
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of see that that's happening. It's like, oh, that's

672
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: not enough. So now we have to do it on

673
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: a corporate sector. It has to be impacting them, has

674
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: to be yeah, for sure, And like if you don't

675
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: have people in big, huge offices and people are are

676
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: actually maybe there's companies that are like yeah, yeah, yeah,

677
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: we don't need to be here. Let's fuck this building, like,

678
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: let's all work from home. That's a huge money saver.

679
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I think it's probably a combination of all these things, right,

680
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: But the one thing we know is that we're not

681
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: getting the truth, Like what do they know about the

682
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: looming there there's this article in Prospect that is just

683
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: like what do they know about the looming collapse of

684
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: central business districts? About the erosion of municipal tax basis?

685
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Like they there are probably a lot of considerations, many

686
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: of them fucked up, but some of them like probably

687
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward that they just like aren't mentioning and instead

688
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: they're just like we want to see the beautiful site

689
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: of people in suits walking to subway and then eating

690
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: their lunch at their computer. It's like that that sounds crazy,

691
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, like you can't just like say something

692
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to people and just like try

693
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: and paper it over because you're a politician, Like with

694
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: ship does not work anymore? Well, I mean, and that's

695
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: where like we have a responsibility to ourselves, right, Let's

696
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: which is why like you guys have this podcast right

697
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: and we're talking about this ship. Like I think that

698
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, as Americans need to wake the funk up.

699
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: Like our government lies to us, our city governments lie

700
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: to us. Like everything is a means to an end.

701
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: So it is on your responsibility to open your eyes,

702
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: take a look and look for what they're not telling you,

703
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and and figure that out

704
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: and make your plan based on your feelings and what

705
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: you know about that. I always tell people that, like,

706
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: do not believe what your city politicians, your talent politicians,

707
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: your country politicians are telling you. Just yeah, do some reading,

708
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I mean a lot of the

709
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of offices are open and people can return.

710
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: They just aren't returning they you know, a survey found

711
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: in January of those working from home could be going

712
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: into work, but they chose not to because it's a

713
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: much better situation and we now have the technology to

714
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: make it like basically loss free. It's a loss list,

715
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: like transition from working next to someone to working from

716
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: home on zoom and you the one thing you lose

717
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: is like these interpersonal conflicts that suck the people like

718
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, like that you just have to be nice

719
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: to each other, Like you can't be a cunt over

720
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: fucking zoom. You know what I mean, Like you really

721
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: got to be hard wired to contitude just to be

722
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: like I'm going to show up to this meeting and

723
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: just be a piece of ship, like and they're afforded,

724
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm I would love to get some HR reports

725
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: out of this, and like how much have those interpersonal

726
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: conflicts decreased? And you know what has that freed up

727
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: HR to HR has so many more responsibilities outside of

728
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: just resolving conflict. It would be interesting to see, you know,

729
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: what are the benefits of saying and how much something

730
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not really I've seen it on a personal level,

731
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: like you know, yes, more time for family, Yes, more

732
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: time for like sleep and self care and all of

733
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: these other things. But from a corporate perspective, what more

734
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: can like the corporations be doing now that they're not

735
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: having to manage the people so directly? And I think

736
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: that that can only be a positive for both sides

737
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: of that conflict, like for both the corporations and the

738
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: people who work for them. Yeah, for sure, HR is

739
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: the real estate agents of Yeah. I don't also very

740
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: hard job, you know, I feel I feel for anybody

741
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: working in HR. I mean, what a time to be

742
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: a middle manager right, this has just gotta be fucking

743
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: the worst and the best where you're just like, man,

744
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: go with God, I don't care like call me never.

745
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm just here. I'm here, I'm just here. Yeah. On

746
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: the list of people who are out of practice being

747
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: around other humans, you can add like bosses because they

748
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: So there's this office in to Aronto with signs that

749
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: like that are welcoming people back, that are like making

750
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: people come back to the office. And they have these

751
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: like signs that are I guess supposed to be funny,

752
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: and they one is like a photograph of sweatpants and

753
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: says miss your sweatpants yet. And then then there's one this,

754
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: this one is the most confounding to me. Bet your

755
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: dogs missing you And it's a picture of a said yeah, motherfucker,

756
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: that is exactly true, exactly why I didn't want to

757
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: come back. What that is? So if that really bothered

758
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: me because it's so indicative of like we're taking joy

759
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 1: and you being uncomfortable and you being away from there

760
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: bringing you peace and calm. It's not the humanization. What

761
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: could possibly be welcoming about going back to being forced

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: back to an office when you know, when you know

763
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: you could do your job from home. I don't understand, like,

764
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: if we're all connect it, if more work is being

765
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: done and I can take care of things at home

766
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 1: and work on my relationships outside of the office without

767
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: sacrificing any of the work I do, how could you

768
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: possibly welcome you back to an office, Because basically it

769
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: feels like going back to school when they're like you

770
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: gotta be in this classroom, you got to raise your

771
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: hand to go to the bathroom, all these ways we

772
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: sort of used to control kids very early. It's like,

773
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring that further into my adult life.

774
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: I feel like we're good, we know how to work,

775
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: not turn things in, and if there's a problem that

776
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: will also be made abundantly clear. There's no reason to

777
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: go back to a brick and mortar. It's also the

778
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: you know, the thing we've talked about. There's this essay

779
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: that was turned into a book by David Graber and

780
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: it's called Bullshit Jobs, and it's just a survey of

781
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: all the jobs in America, and like the UK, it's like, oh,

782
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: half of these don't need to exist, Like a lot

783
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: of these are just like moving shit around, like pushing

784
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: people around, and creating chaos. And the people who mostly

785
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: don't need to exist a lot of the time are

786
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: those middle managers and the people who are like in

787
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: those meetings when they determined ship, like, we got to

788
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: bring everybody back so we can, you know, make them

789
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: cringe with our terrible senses of humor. Yes, yes, here

790
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: we go. Okay. So once I was working for a

791
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: delivery company. I might be in the ad, so I

792
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: won't say their name. It was early in that company's existence,

793
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: maybe three or four years, but they were doing well.

794
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: They were about to go public. So of course what

795
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: do they do. They hire a team to come in

796
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: and ask how can we be more efficient? Suddenly my

797
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: very cool job. Or people whould like chain smoke at

798
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: their desks with vapes. We would watch I had Netflix

799
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: on the whole time, you know, just pop on a

800
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: phone call, pause whatever show I'm binging. I watched a

801
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: lot of Disney's Robin Hood back in the day. Some

802
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: girl would just play sims the whole time and look,

803
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: it's Sal's like, how are these people getting anything done?

804
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me our numbers did not

805
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: go up afterwards. There was no change in performance, and

806
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: we were just comfortable, and they really hated that. They

807
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: were like, look at they're doing something that isn't a

808
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: hundred percent where it's like I'm waiting for a call

809
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: to come. I don't do anything but wait for my

810
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: little screen to light up. And then I clicked the call,

811
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: and then I helped them out, and then I go

812
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: back to doing whatever. And I think there's this very

813
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: like old school idea of and and to that old

814
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: school's point, you used to work like working to six

815
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: or seven was late, but oh my gosh, you say

816
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: two extra hours at work. I think in nine to

817
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: five they were saying like twice a week, I have

818
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: to stay up until like seven, and I have to

819
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: get my kids dinner. And all of a sudden, people

820
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: don't have time to cook their children dinner. They're like

821
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: pizza five dollars go each. I have more work to

822
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: do once we get home. So it doesn't make sense

823
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: to tell people like you must work around the clock

824
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: and also no creature comforts. It's not tenable. And I

825
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: obviously if they gets my workers are like, listen, I'll

826
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: just stay at home. It's fine, not come back. You

827
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: know what's not compatible with efficiency The death of the

828
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: human soul. It feels, are not efficient workers when their

829
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: soul is being ground out of their fucking bodies. One

830
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: I agree with to you manage's why I think, like again,

831
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: take some personal accountability, Like if you I just think

832
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: it would be awesome and be like, sure, I'll come back,

833
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: but then just roll in just as you've been at home,

834
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Like just come in your sweats, bring that dog, you

835
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like bring you a little plug

836
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: in heat, or like get rid of that office chair,

837
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: put the bean bag in there, get yourself a little

838
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: i kea sofa, just go focus stanza, you know what

839
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and just completely renovate your office into like

840
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: a creature comfort layer and be like, I'm legit doing

841
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: my work, but I'm not doing it unless I'm comfortable.

842
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Like that's just it just a vehement fight back on

843
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: comfort level. That seems fair unless you got a job

844
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: where you like, you know, I don't want my doctor

845
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to come in and sweats. That's a little concerning. Uh,

846
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: my lawyer can be more comfort than a suit and tie.

847
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: But you know, figure it somewhere scruws their sweats. Yeah.

848
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: A little secret about doctors. They are the one profession

849
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: that gets away with wearing sweats. Nonstock scrubs are the

850
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: most comfortable fucking clothes they're designed to be. I'm sure

851
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: there's another reason they get to wear that, but holy

852
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: sh it, those are so comfortable. And yeah, they, like

853
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: every other profession, is fucking stupid for not having designed

854
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: a uniform that everybody just associates with that profession. Like

855
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: if lawyers were as smart as they claim they are,

856
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: they would be in like baggy onesies. That would be

857
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the would be I thought I thought you were gonna

858
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: say they'd all be dressed in foghorn like hoorn costumes. Amazing,

859
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: not comfortable, but hilarious. Yeah. I do like the idea

860
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: of like needing to have a dedicated, like a dedicated

861
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: uniform to your your job. I think that's just awesome.

862
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: Like mechanics coveralls, you know what's going on, plumber pants

863
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: that don't fit, you know what I mean, Like everybody

864
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: everybody knows you do. You're like, oh, that guy's for

865
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: sure plumber you know, construction heads. Yeah, man, let's get

866
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: some Let's get some uniforms, right, you have to worry

867
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: about what you doing. I like that podcast Industry Unite.

868
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure out what the podcast uniform is. It's

869
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: just whatever free clothes you guys are advertising. If if

870
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: it's only socks, then you just gotta make your whole

871
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: off just bomba socks and like, yeah, that's gonna fast. Yeah,

872
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, I like the idea of just branded hoodies

873
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: and that's it. We need to know which podcast you're

874
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: working on at all times. You work on a new

875
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: one today, switch hoodies. Actually that's maybe you guys could

876
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: kind of be like race cars. You know how race

877
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: cars are just covered in logos that they're paid for.

878
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: The car should be that, but a hoodie or like,

879
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: and it's just that's it. That's what you wear. It's

880
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: just all of the current logos people pay for ads

881
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: your mind. I swear to God, yes, yes, I need

882
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: a NASCAR style hoodie with all my shows on it. Yeah,

883
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: and then you guy should also cruel. People already do

884
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: that with their like email signatures, with like every logo

885
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: and it starts to like look like you're in the navy,

886
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: like with all the decorations. I feel like a sweatshirt

887
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: that looked like that would be pretty dope. All right,

888
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll come back and talk

889
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: about why the past twenty years of movies is not

890
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: horny enough, and we're back and yeah. I actually I

891
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: heard this article mentioned on John Gabriel's podcast Action Boys

892
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: and immediately was like, all right, I'm gonna go read

893
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: that article and then I want to talk to Joel

894
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Monique about this the next time the next time she

895
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: is on. It's just a good, like sort of meta

896
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: analysis of movies of the past twenty years. That's like,

897
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, like as recently as the eighties and nineties,

898
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: like people were horny in movie, like movie cultures were horny,

899
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: and now as like the human body has like the

900
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: human body as it appears in movies has been like

901
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: whittled down into this like thing that requires you know,

902
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: engineering from like a full time chef and trainer and

903
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: steroids steroid bartender. I don't know, like as the bodies

904
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: have gotten more like traditionally like beautiful, the people have

905
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: just gotten less horny, like people like the movie characters

906
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: are just I don't know, like it really made sense

907
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: to me in the article when the author was talking

908
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: about Christopher Nola movies. I've always noticed as about Christopher

909
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Nolan movies, there's not a like like I said, of Top,

910
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: there's not a drop of sex and any of the

911
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: dreams of inception. But like it's not just like it's

912
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: not just Christopher Nolan movies like we didn't. I didn't

913
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: even I was not like that movie is fucking weird,

914
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Like that's a that's a movie about dreams, and like

915
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: nobody it's like a world in which sex doesn't exist,

916
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: and we just like, yeah, I don't know, and then

917
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's true, Like the the Dark Knight Rises

918
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: sex scene between Christian Bale and Marianne Courtyard is like

919
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: I think the low point of his movies and maybe

920
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: all movies. It's just it does like so drab and

921
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: unbelievable and just like plot mechanical, it sucks, but you

922
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: know the The author also points out, like all the

923
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: Marvel movies like pepper Pots and Tony Stark, but those

924
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: people aren't fucking you can just look at that and

925
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: be like those people, what are you talking about? Even

926
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor. The entire second movie is

927
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: based on her wanting to take Does she take over

928
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: a person in a coma's body or he takes over

929
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: she takes over a person in a coma's body to

930
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: bring this person back to life, and they have clearly

931
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: like just it's like they've not heard of sex, let

932
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: alone like wanted to have it with one another. There's

933
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: no time for sex when you're saving the world, Jack

934
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Orties and that. Okay, So I have so many thoughts

935
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: on a direct candent from what we were just talking about,

936
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: the idea that movies are so focused on end of

937
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: the world scenarios. I think that we've been scared out

938
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: of sex. They're just like there's no time. Like Christopher

939
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Nolan isn't even interested in love. Even an inception which

940
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: is supposed to be about a guy getting back to

941
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: this woman that he lost, you know, it's falling deeper

942
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: into his dreams to get to it's more a figment

943
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: of his imagination than an actual person he's trying to

944
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: get back to. All we ever see of her is

945
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: like her with the kids. She's very beautiful, she's off

946
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: in the distance. They don't even show her face. We

947
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: don't know even about her. It it's really more of

948
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: a representation of that's where he feels safe. It's about him.

949
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: It's not even about getting to her so that he

950
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: can love her right like the way that they may,

951
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: or at least that's what I got from it. I

952
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: was just like, so, this has nothing to do with her.

953
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: This has everything to do with him needing to have

954
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: the things that he thinks that he needs. Where he

955
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: was the way he wanted to be. It could have

956
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: been his favorite armchair. The Yeah, that would have been

957
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: amazing if it was just his favorite arm chair. But

958
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: he likes to sit in like that's what he's fantasizing

959
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: about the whole time. Damn, my lazy boy. But in

960
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: the Dark Knight trilogy, both the most evil and exciting

961
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: but like evil character of the trilogy is the only

962
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: character with any sexual energy, and he's Ledger's joker, Like

963
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: he's the only character that you're like, Okay, this guy

964
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: is like fucked up, but he clearly like has some

965
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: sort of like sexual urges, whereas everybody else is completely

966
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: removed from that. It's happening on such a large I

967
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: think part of it is like a purification of our country,

968
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: where we really like we we had a very large

969
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: swift at least in my childhood, this idea of like

970
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: protect the children. They can see like don't talk to

971
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: them about sex. Okay, we're gonna go back to abstinence training,

972
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: like we avoid it. And then because of that, then

973
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: you had this movement of the m p a A,

974
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: which rates movies being a lot more stringent on how

975
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: they were going to rate, and the theater industry or

976
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: the movie making industry followed that and said, okay, well,

977
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: we'll just focus really hard on PG thirteen movies. You'll

978
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: get your f bombs. A guy will definitely kill someone

979
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: in a horrifying way, but they won't have sex and

980
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: it will be fine. People will be okay with that.

981
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we used to be a proper country. You

982
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: remember when we had like erotic thrillers. They're just everywhere,

983
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: and they were so good and so like steamy and

984
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: fun and mysterious, and someone died, but in the end,

985
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: the hot person usually got away. And that's what really

986
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: mad dude, and I sort of missed these days of like,

987
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: give me a basic instinct, a fatal attraction, if you will,

988
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll even take like a crush. You know. I just

989
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like as we embrace more violence and and and

990
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: more brotherhood and friendship, we just aren't really interested in

991
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: romantic relationships unless they're devastating your lifetime. Super they have cancer,

992
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: they can't remember each other, they their families don't want

993
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: them to be together. There's an entire war between that's

994
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: what we're giving and our love movies or they're silly

995
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: beyond belief. We don't even have good romantic comedies anymore.

996
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: Fight me. I just feel like there's we're not interested

997
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: in in expressing love in our films anymore. Yeah, I

998
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting time in general. I mean, it's

999
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 1: something I think about a lot when we think about

1000
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: the quality of relationships that are presented, you know. And

1001
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: and I'm somebody that I don't really even like rom

1002
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Kong movies because I feel like they're so ridiculous and

1003
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: they're so out of touch with what life is truly

1004
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: like when you're actually in a relationship. But it's weird

1005
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: because we live in this country where we are supposed

1006
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: to be exceedingly hot, right, and we see this reflected,

1007
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, Jack, as you were saying, movies, right, people

1008
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: are these chiseled sort of beautiful you know, or you know,

1009
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: the ideas of what society wants to think is a

1010
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: beautiful body. Right. But then there's also the other side

1011
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: of that is that you either are beautiful and non

1012
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: sexual or you are sexual and not traditionally hot. I

1013
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: feel like those are the only two kind of like

1014
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: routes that we kind of want to see that And

1015
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: now that we're seeing people really talk a lot more

1016
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: about gender sort of being a construct, right, and we're

1017
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: moving towards recognizing and sort of accepting that there are

1018
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: people who are none non binary, who don't necessarily you know,

1019
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: sit in either gender, you know, or people who don't

1020
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: identify even sexually. Right, like this a sexuality kind of

1021
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: becomes a thing, and it's really weird because it makes

1022
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: me think, like, are we gonna see stuff continue down

1023
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: this road where people don't even want to touch the

1024
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: sex because it gets too close to gender and they're

1025
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: too worried about putting people off, you know, and not

1026
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: representing that. I mean, it's already sad that we don't

1027
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: see enough homosexual love stories, right, and then we do

1028
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: see them, it's usually like chittered and chattered about, and

1029
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: it's like this taboo thing that happens, you know, it's

1030
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: like a brokeback Mountain situation, like oh my god, you know,

1031
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: or it's like blue is the warmest color, Like, oh

1032
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: my god, there's lesbian sex in that one, and it

1033
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: becomes this like dirty thing. And I don't understand because America,

1034
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: it's like we want our teenagers to be hot, you

1035
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're we're we have movies

1036
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: that are to be teenagers and we're casting thirty five

1037
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: year old women, you know what I mean. Where it's

1038
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: like that girl is thirty five and they're like, Okay,

1039
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: well that's so we can see her fucking not feel

1040
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: bad about it. And it's like, why do we need

1041
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: to see kids? Fuck? What is happening? Like we're we're

1042
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: all fucked up about sex in the United States. I

1043
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: think we have a really shitty relationship with our bodies

1044
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: and with who can have sex and who can't have

1045
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: sex instead of just accepting that, like there's jen under

1046
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: and then there's sex and they don't necessarily go together,

1047
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to be hot in order

1048
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: that for it to be a thing, right, Like you

1049
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: don't have to be hot enough to fuck, Like I

1050
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: just I hate that concept of it, you know, or

1051
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: like you said, it has to be tragic Joel, right,

1052
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, this tragedy happened. Oh my god,

1053
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: like this is so sad, where it's like, all right,

1054
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: so we have to be talking about either a devastating

1055
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: relationship or we have to be talking about rape in

1056
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: order for us to be able to comfortable exploring a

1057
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 1: sex scene. Because that's the other thing that I hate

1058
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: is where it's like, we won't see sex unless it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a rape, unless it's a violent crime that's happening,

1060
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: and you know, and then it's okay because it's contextual

1061
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh so in order for to feed

1062
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: me sex, it needs to be violent. What are we doing?

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00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: This film is not yet rated. A movie from two

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00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: thousand six, a documentary about the m p A process

1065
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: and like their standards and what they give our ratings

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00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: and n C seventeen ratings, what they will and won't

1067
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: allow to be showed on camera is like as close

1068
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: demandage reviewing as as possible for a listener to this podcast,

1069
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: like y'all need to watch it if you haven't. But

1070
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: they talk about the thing that the ratings board really

1071
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: objects to is women experiencing sexual pleasure. Oh yeah, it's

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: not nudity, it's women like they are terrified of women

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00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: experiencing sexual pleasure. A movie will show a rape scene

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00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: and then that that will get an R. But if

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a woman is shown like having an orgasm, that is

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: that will get you an n C seventeen. They'll always

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00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: cut right before she hits climax, right like you could

1078
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: see her being penetrated and starting to enjoy, and then

1079
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: they'll be like, and that's the end. You can better

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00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: get out of here. That women can actually orgasm, that

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: would be a problem. She's a witch. We can't show it.

1082
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: But fascism. So the this essay, which is really good,

1083
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: I highly recommend people will link off to it. But

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: it opens with a description of Starship Troopers the shower scene,

1085
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: which is, you know, all of these like sculpted soldiers

1086
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: showering together because they're part of this like military battalion.

1087
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: But the the whole undercurrent of that movie is fascism.

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: And that's like a thing that's been remarked about repeatedly

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: about fascist cultures and just the ideology of fascism is

1090
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: it's all about like beautiful, efficient bodies, but like completely

1091
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: removed from sex and like completely taken out of the

1092
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: context of sex. And so so that movie was like

1093
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: making a commentary back and it, you know, presage a

1094
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: lot of things, but I think that's one of them,

1095
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: that like just this idea that like bodies would be

1096
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: taken more in this direction of not not really like functional.

1097
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: They're not like we were trying to remove the function

1098
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: and just make them pleasing and pleasing to look at,

1099
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: but like we don't we we don't let them have

1100
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: the horny nous that that is like so deeply human.

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're there for your visual consumption, for the

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00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: audience to ogle and be like, wow, isn't that a

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: perfect body? But there's again no internal desires. Even when

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00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: we had our first Marvel sex scene in The Eternals,

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: which really kicked off a conversation about secklessness and heroic

1106
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: movies in the superhero Cape and calam movies. I mean,

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00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: if you saw the movie, it is the most bland,

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00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: non interesting sex. It is boring, and there's no The Eternals.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. First of all, not a great movie.

1110
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I've talked that to death of why

1111
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Don't tell me about all your

1112
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: epic stories, just please show me. But the other idea

1113
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: of these two care if we're supposed to have this

1114
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: great romance across thousands of eons and like always coming

1115
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: back together. And when you see them together, you're like, girl,

1116
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: get out, he's abusive. The whole time, You're just like,

1117
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: this man is not quite right. He's a little obsessed

1118
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: with you in a very unhealthy way. You just seem

1119
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: like a sweet, innocent person. Please remove yourself. And then

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: when they are together, there isn't that the actors are

1121
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: trying to perform longing. It's staged so that it's supposed

1122
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: to be there, but it never connects or leaps off

1123
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: the screen. And it's because it's it's a Disney film.

1124
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Disney's never going to allow you to truly invest in

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Speaker 1: what it means to be like in a committed sexual relationship.

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00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: That's not You are parents serving other people, You are

1127
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: doomed lovers. You are not ever happy and really enjoying

1128
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Speaker 1: yourself when they had every reason to be. It's and

1129
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: it's weird to me that we're continuing to get that

1130
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: in spaces where the studio could go there. It makes

1131
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: sense to me that Disney is like, that's not really

1132
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: what we're interested in. We are very strictly a family space.

1133
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: But Warner Brothers, y'all, you've got so much space and

1134
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: time just to bring out the fucking you could do it.

1135
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: It's not going to be a problem. Your audience is

1136
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: going to stay here for it. But I want I

1137
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: do think that a lot of people are afraid of

1138
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: slipping into that our category because even when you have

1139
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: movies like Deadpool, which does have a lot of sex

1140
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: and actually for some pretty good fun sex scenes in there,

1141
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: it didn't do the same kind of numbers that I

1142
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: think a studio hopes to hit every time they release

1143
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: a superhero movie. Did well, They're going to keep releasing

1144
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: dead Pool movies. But that our rating, it does have

1145
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: a It makes a difference. I think they try to

1146
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: go PT. Thirteen on movie too, I remember correctly and

1147
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: the best. So this article is kind of written in

1148
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: the context of maybe the Batman will save us from

1149
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: this trend, and I don't hope there there's no like

1150
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: overt sex scene, but I have read people say like

1151
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: it's the characters are clearly horny and like there's a

1152
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: like undercurrent of sexuality, at least as compared to previous

1153
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: Batman Zee Kravitz is absolutely horny for Batman. Batman has

1154
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: never had sex ever. This this version of Batman not

1155
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: fucking Man's just sad too, Like I mean, Batman has

1156
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: never been like the horny character for me. Like he's

1157
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: just such a sad boy, you know what It's like.

1158
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: He just seems to the kind of guy you'd fun

1159
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: and then he'd cry after and he'd be like, God,

1160
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: now I have to stay, like I can't leave, you

1161
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Michael Keaton Batman did fuck and

1162
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: that was the only one that was like maybe because

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01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: he had nipples. I would pay good money and I'm

1164
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: talking good money to see fat Thor fu somebody, everybody

1165
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: all things like when they had fat Thor. That really

1166
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: did it for me. I was just like, what's up?

1167
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: I like that that little belly. I was like, yeah,

1168
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: really was definitely hot. I'm into it. The writer points

1169
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: out like in Greek myths, Thor is like, oh yeah,

1170
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, talks everyone. And in the Thor movies, like

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: the first one is basically a you know wrong. I mean,

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: there's like a very strong like lead actress in Natalie Portman,

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: and he just like looks at her like a fucking

1174
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, dumb puppy and just like grins at her.

1175
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: And it's like movies are supposed to be our Greek myths,

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01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: or at least in my opinion, like that's that's what

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01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: reveals things about our inner lives and values and wishes

1178
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: and dreams. Is like the movies that we're into. But

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01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: for some reason, like in the transition from like ancient

1180
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: Greece to today, we're like, get the sex out of there,

1181
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: We none of that. Bring back the fun hammer, ah

1182
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: you have. Anything I think might have happened in just

1183
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: the last decade is after like a little bit before

1184
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Me Too, and for sure afterwards there's been this strange

1185
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: backlash of people being like, well, now just no sex.

1186
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys remember immediately after Me Too,

1187
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of men who are like, well,

1188
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe I just want to hire women because I don't

1189
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: want to deal with this, which is I mean, it

1190
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: literally floored me. But at the same time, I think

1191
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of especially big movie production studios,

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01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: taking a step away from having sex scenes, and the

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01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: smaller productions that are continuing to you know, if they

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: want to have sex scenes or if they have a

1195
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: rape scene, like they're bringing in counselors and and people

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01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: who can sort of guide or set up a scene

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: so that actors can feel safe and comfortable, which I

1198
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: think is a great thing, and I think we should

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Speaker 1: continue to do moving forward, because the one disturbing thing

1200
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: about if you look at older films that have sex

1201
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: scenes is like sometimes so scenes were surprises to the actresses,

1202
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: which is a horrifying thought. A lot of times if

1203
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: there is an actress involved, she is the only woman

1204
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: on set that day, which is a horrifying thought. Like

1205
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I think in our New World

1206
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: discussions about how do we do this in a way

1207
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: that makes performers makes the actually i'm gonna say feel safe,

1208
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: but where they're actually safe, where we're making sure that

1209
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: they don't leave us set with like mental and emotional scars,

1210
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: because that's we're just making art. You shouldn't leave with

1211
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: a mental and emotional scars. It's a tough thing to do.

1212
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: But in like adjacent to that, I think, you know,

1213
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins recently did an entire mini series about slavery

1214
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: and and he had to have a therapist on set

1215
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: the whole time because we have people like we're visiting

1216
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: these historic spaces, you know, it can be triggering and traumatizing,

1217
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I just think it's like there's

1218
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for why Hollywood at this point

1219
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: is like, how are we going to do this, how

1220
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna be judged, How do we sure the actors

1221
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: feel safe? How do we make sure that we don't

1222
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: get a rating that makes it impossible for our movie

1223
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: to do the kind of sales we needed to do.

1224
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: I do hope that we're seeing a surgeon. Indeed, films

1225
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: where these things are maybe not so taboo and smaller

1226
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: cast and crews tend to have better rapport overall. So

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,959
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think what one last sort

1228
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: of possible explanation is that, like, it seems like a

1229
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of the trend is happening at the same time

1230
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: as the explosion of internet porn, and I feel like

1231
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: maybe like it could be just that, like people are like, well,

1232
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: now we have a different place to go for that,

1233
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: but that's bad, because uh, internet porn is a horrible

1234
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: place to learn about sex. Not saying movies are great,

1235
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: but at least there's like a artistic vision that is

1236
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: trying to depict something that is realistic and like say

1237
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: something about it, usually as opposed to you know, a

1238
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: lot of porn is really misleading and violent and not

1239
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: not leading people down. Again, so you're saying that gaping

1240
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: and throbbing aren't realistic words for a loving sexual like

1241
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: the thing that that should haunts me. Whenever I see

1242
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: that word, I'm just like, like, I just want to

1243
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: like drop the keyboard. I'm like, I shouldn't been here.

1244
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: This is gross. I'm sorry. I'm like apologizing to like

1245
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: the ghosts of my ancestors and they're just like, what

1246
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: are you looking at. I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't

1247
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh god, you test the limits of your

1248
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: own ship there, man, whatever happened? And that I just

1249
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: want to see regular old actors who looked good and

1250
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: worked out in eight fucking boiled chicken breast for a month,

1251
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: fuck or pretend to fuck, put on stockings and rub

1252
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: against each other, you know exactly. The writer's like, well,

1253
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: hopefully this is going to change because they cast Robert

1254
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: Pattinson as Batman, and you know, he's a sexual being

1255
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: on film, and the evidence that he has sexual being

1256
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: on film is that he has masturbated in his last

1257
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: four films, which feels kind of appropriate for our modern

1258
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: world that that is, like, what what some sexual person?

1259
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: It's just masturbating to a to a mermaid icon carved

1260
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: out of whalebone, which, by the way, Joe, I did

1261
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: watch WAT and I loved it. Yeah, thank you so

1262
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: much for that recommendation. All right, well, Lydia, such a

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01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on TDZ as always? Where can people

1264
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Sure, you

1265
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: can follow me on social media on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 1: at hater Tuesday. You can go to my website Lydia

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Speaker 1: popovitch dot com. Uh, those are those are good places

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Speaker 1: to find me. Yeah, for sure. If you're in Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: I will be at the Boat Hotel on St. Patrick's

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Speaker 1: Day down in Nashville. It's just be a little fun,

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Speaker 1: little comedy show. You can come by there, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll be at the Punchline in San Francisco in June two. Yeah. Nice.

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Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? I have one,

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Speaker 1: I have one hold on let me pull it up.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a funny tweet, it's it's not a joke. Tweet.

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Speaker 1: It's just a sear tweet. So this week was International

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Speaker 1: Women's Day was on Tuesday, right, uh, And I am

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Speaker 1: a big proponent of supporting other women in general. I

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Speaker 1: think it's very important and I love supporting women who

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Speaker 1: are in technical fields. And because I'm still so excited

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Speaker 1: about my Dolly parton pinball Machine, I wanted to give

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Speaker 1: a shout out to at Lauren Coogliotta. It's l a

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Speaker 1: u r e n c U g l i O

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Speaker 1: t t A. She is a pinball technician based out

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Speaker 1: of Jupiter, Florida, and she is one of the people

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Speaker 1: that was on the team that helped put my machine together.

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Speaker 1: But she has a really cool Twitter that she's just

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Speaker 1: getting going and it's her basically walking you through like

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Speaker 1: how she repairs vintage machines and she puts all these

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Speaker 1: little cool videos and I just think it's super cool

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Speaker 1: that she is following her dreams and she is persisting

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Speaker 1: and she is learning how to be a pinball technician.

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Speaker 1: So follow her. Check it out if you're into pinball,

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Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, support women in technical fields. Let's go Lauren,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Awesome. Joel, where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: What is the tweet you've been enjoying. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: find me all over the internet at Jeel Monique. That's

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Speaker 1: j O E L E E m O n i

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Speaker 1: Q you eat today. In response to Bob Chapick, when

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Speaker 1: you CEO of Disney's decisions to fun, they don't say

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Speaker 1: gay Bill in Florida, Josh Beams at Beams Underscore, Josh

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Speaker 1: tweeted a threat of LGBTQ creatives who have brought massive

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Speaker 1: success to the Disney Company as a giant fuck you

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Speaker 1: to this douche bag. I am so frustrated at the

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Speaker 1: idea of a company that has taken millions of gay dollars,

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Speaker 1: who has a bunch of queer workers who are incredible

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Speaker 1: human beings who like work really, really tirelessly to bring

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Speaker 1: these stories to life and and manage parks and any

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Speaker 1: job Disney has, whatever job Disney has on their fire force, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But now they're hard work and the dollars sheeple have

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Speaker 1: spent could be going to shaming queer children, which we

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Speaker 1: know leads to death. So fuck you, Bob, and um

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Speaker 1: go check out Beams Underscore Josh's list of fantastic queer

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Speaker 1: creators and on a lighter note create along word four

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Speaker 1: hours ago the amazing podcaster she does. You must remember

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Speaker 1: this pod. You can find her at Remember this pod

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Speaker 1: just announced it in three weeks. The new season is

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Speaker 1: going to be about erotic eighties movies, so time you

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Speaker 1: can get your whole life with amazing it does even

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Speaker 1: like the article, even just like points out and Poulter Guist,

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Speaker 1: like the there's a scene where the parents like get

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Speaker 1: ready to fuck, like the mom's smoke and weed, the

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Speaker 1: dad's a little drunk, and you can tell, oh, these

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Speaker 1: are like real human beings who have sex with each other.

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's how that's a recognizable human sex went

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Speaker 1: to TV. I'm guessing Poulter guyst won't be the movie

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Speaker 1: that is covered in a series of erotic these movies,

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Speaker 1: but like I mean, it's just like even down to

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Speaker 1: like complete movies. We don't think of the xerotic like

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Speaker 1: in the Analyst bit. Also, I'm pronouncing erotic erotic. That's

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Speaker 1: how that's how little eroticism there is in other movies.

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Speaker 1: I forgot how to pronounce it. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: hearing her takes on Porky's one through three. Alright, uh

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Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying. Joe Rumrill tweeted at a job

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Speaker 1: interview to be a lifeguard. Really trying to nail it. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: not used to a chair being so close to the ground.

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Speaker 1: Oh god. Uh. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore. Brian you can find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We

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Speaker 1: have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes on our foot

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Speaker 1: no but where we link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a

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Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. And uh, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Miles isn't around. Sometimes we like to ask

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Speaker 1: super producer Justin what song he thinks our listeners should

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Speaker 1: go listen to? Justin? Do you have do you have

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Speaker 1: a recommendation? Sort? Yeah, Today I want y'all to check

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Speaker 1: out a song called Galaxy Surfing by a group of

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Speaker 1: young musicians, very talented. Uh, I think it's just a duo.

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Speaker 1: They're called jaddu Heart. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing

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Speaker 1: that correctly. It's j A d U h E A

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Speaker 1: r T. This song is very, very relaxing. It really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the title tells you everything you need to

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Speaker 1: know about it. If you want to feel like you're

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Speaker 1: drifting away amongst the stars, just looking at beautiful visions

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Speaker 1: and you want to just melt away for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you can check out this track Galaxy Surfing by Jaddy

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Speaker 1: Heart and it will be in the footmos. Is that

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Speaker 1: where you're describing dying right there? Sure? Visions of stars

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Speaker 1: and it's the human soul dying. It's it's the corporation

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Speaker 1: just killing your soul. But it's a it's a good death.

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Speaker 1: It's a happy day, a warrior's death, the happy death

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Speaker 1: of having your soul escape your body because of one

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Speaker 1: too many trust falls. All right, Well, The Daily is

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Speaker 1: Like Eyes, a production of I Heart Radio. For more

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Speaker 1: podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us this morning. We are back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all day. Bye bye,