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Speaker 3: This he is Talking Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: training camp in Oxnard, Calistown, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,
Speaker 3: Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 4: As we welcome you in to the SWBC podcast studio
Speaker 4: at the Star in Frisco's training camp continues, the padded
Speaker 4: practices are now in the books and now we've got
Speaker 4: one more preseason game to look forward to.
Speaker 2: Isaiah Standback is excited about the preseason game.
Speaker 4: That's right, He'll be in the booth on Saturday booth
Speaker 4: as they take on Las Vegas seven pm Central time kickoff.
Speaker 4: We have John Machoda from The Athletic. We have Nick
Speaker 4: Harris of Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle you oomics, gentleman. How are we doing so well?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Turn it up a little bit, turn me up fantastic.
Speaker 4: I need to be louder fantastic. That's the first time
Speaker 4: I've ever had to be told to be louder.
Speaker 6: Ever, that's a compliment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, usually or usually I'm I'm pretty vocal. Yeah, to
Speaker 4: say the least. It is your job rather yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: somebody told me on Saturday to not talk as much.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you.
Speaker 7: Who, but needs help. It looks like, oh, yes, okay,
Speaker 7: you good. I can hear you're right next to me,
Speaker 7: so we're good.
Speaker 8: I found it.
Speaker 2: We're good, John. How are you doing today?
Speaker 9: I'm good.
Speaker 10: I got I had a little complaint here that maybe
Speaker 10: you guys will disagree with me, But do you think
Speaker 10: these practices have been as exciting those last two as
Speaker 10: the ones that ox snard?
Speaker 9: Am I off on this?
Speaker 10: I just when I'm watching them, And maybe it's because
Speaker 10: we're not allowed to take pictures or video, so maybe
Speaker 10: that that is it for me. But there's only been
Speaker 10: like a handful of really wow plays to me over
Speaker 10: these two, these last two practices, which are the ones
Speaker 10: that we're going to be the most interesting with pads
Speaker 10: on and stuff like, am I wrong on that?
Speaker 9: Am I missing out? Where?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 6: Honestly wouldn't surprise me after what happened to Tyron last year?
Speaker 6: This week and then also coming off of the injuries
Speaker 6: that happened on Saturday, maybe there was a conversation had
Speaker 6: before the week, like hey, let's just let's let's let's
Speaker 6: take it easy this week. The other part of twos
Speaker 6: and threes really get it.
Speaker 10: The other part the other part with me too. It's
Speaker 10: kind of a weird comparison, but so like if you
Speaker 10: watch a game at Globe Life with the roof open
Speaker 10: and the roof closed, to me, it's two different things.
Speaker 10: Like when the roof is closed and there's all that
Speaker 10: dead time in between pitches, like you feel like you
Speaker 10: can hear somebody talking, like over on the other side
Speaker 10: of the entire you know, stadium.
Speaker 9: Sure, But when the roof's open.
Speaker 10: There's like some more natural noise and things like that.
Speaker 10: So at training camp, I feel like you're outside and
Speaker 10: there's a little bit of that and so, but when
Speaker 10: you're back inside and there's really no music, I just
Speaker 10: feel like sometimes it drags from a spectator standpoint, you know,
Speaker 10: because obviously, like I don't know if you people listening
Speaker 10: probably heard this, Like Mike McCarthy's not big on playing
Speaker 10: a bunch of music like that was always big, Like
Speaker 10: Jason Garrett used to always play a ton of music,
Speaker 10: to the point where like I've had some of my
Speaker 10: videos taken down because in the background of the videos,
Speaker 10: like a Drake song or something like that copyright, right. Yeah,
Speaker 10: so that part of it is fine whatever, But I
Speaker 10: just I don't know, just for me personally, it just
Speaker 10: doesn't seem like there's as much juice as maybe there
Speaker 10: was out Knock Snard.
Speaker 2: Not the juice. You're not missing juice, I think. I
Speaker 2: think you're right, I really do.
Speaker 4: And it's not like they're not getting quality work here, right,
Speaker 4: It's just not the.
Speaker 10: Same player seem to They're probably fine with that. I'm
Speaker 10: just saying from a spectator standpoint, from just a.
Speaker 4: Fan standpoint and watching it, I think they need to
Speaker 4: get like the drum line in there, you know, the
Speaker 4: rhythm and blues, get the drum line going.
Speaker 2: They maybe bring it up a little bit. I'm sure
Speaker 2: we could find a way to get that done. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it is. It is a little interesting.
Speaker 4: And of course they've got one more open practice today
Speaker 4: at one thirty Central time inside Forts, But I don't
Speaker 4: it's more so a walk through, right Nick. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: not really even a get up and go padded practice.
Speaker 2: It's more of a walkthrough.
Speaker 4: So did you did you like listening to music a
Speaker 4: practice or would you rather just get down the business.
Speaker 7: I love the music and the reason and the reason
Speaker 7: why I believe most coaches opt to use music nowadays
Speaker 7: is because the crowd noise. So you become accustomed to
Speaker 7: working under those conditions. Whenever you're ever gonna play and
Speaker 7: it's gonna be quiet, it's not a thing. So making
Speaker 7: sure that you have noise, background, noise always constantly going on,
Speaker 7: and your ability to be able to think and still produce.
Speaker 7: I think that's the reason why most coaches go that round.
Speaker 2: So you wanted it as loud?
Speaker 8: Me turn it up.
Speaker 6: You know who loves Mike McCarthy arguably more than anyone
Speaker 6: on this planet. Those house owners right there in a.
Speaker 10: For sure songs and they're done.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what that the forward center can can
Speaker 9: really turn it up.
Speaker 10: Oh, there's been some time during the season where before
Speaker 10: they let us in, uh to see a certain port
Speaker 10: up portion of practice, they'll have it the crowd noise
Speaker 10: cranked up, you know, and there's obviously not a fan
Speaker 10: in there, just the team, and it's amazing how loud
Speaker 10: that they can turn it up if they need to
Speaker 10: to make you feel like, you know, you're you know,
Speaker 10: to prepare you for a road environment. So I know
Speaker 10: what those speakers are capable of doing. And so maybe
Speaker 10: that's why I'm also a little disappointed they're not taking
Speaker 10: advantage of that.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 4: That throws me back to like twenty twenty twenty one
Speaker 4: training camp, right when it was kind of covidly distant
Speaker 4: still and you kind of they were just cranking the
Speaker 4: crowd noise even though there really wasn't going to be
Speaker 4: a crowd in twenty twenty, but then twenty one, they
Speaker 4: knew there were going to be crowds, so they wanted
Speaker 4: to crank it and they wanted to push it.
Speaker 2: But that was that was such an odd time yosness.
Speaker 6: But were they allowed to pump in artificial noise in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: In stadiums during games?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 2: No? No, okay, during practice you can do whatever.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, I was saying stadiums, yeah, deering.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm trying to think there was no artificial noise.
Speaker 2: There was.
Speaker 9: It might have been very very faint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Beam said there's not.
Speaker 8: So there you go.
Speaker 4: All right, based off of what you've seen in practices,
Speaker 4: you got's got the broadcast on Tuesday, Isaiah, what were
Speaker 4: some of the standouts and some of the things that
Speaker 4: you took away from when the Cowboys returned to Ford Center.
Speaker 7: I don't think there was anything that really stood out.
Speaker 7: It was just more the same. I mean, guys just
Speaker 7: continue to trying to get reps. I think paid a
Speaker 7: little bit more attention to the office line and kind
Speaker 7: of the Cupid shuffle us going on there for the
Speaker 7: second string guys and third string guys, trying to figure
Speaker 7: out who's gonna feel what roles should somebody ever you know,
Speaker 7: obviously cross your fingers, somebody have to step away from
Speaker 7: the game for a second for whatever reason. But I
Speaker 7: think just trying to see who's gonna really be those
Speaker 7: six seven to eight officeive linemen. That's really a lot
Speaker 7: of my question marks right now, aside from the linebacker position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, linebacker position, I mean Marquise Bell rotating down, kind
Speaker 4: of taking some snaps. They've used juan Ye Thomas in
Speaker 4: a couple different areas. John, what did you see in
Speaker 4: terms of how they're trying to adjust now that both
Speaker 4: Malik Jefferson and.
Speaker 2: Marvey and over shown are gonna miss some time.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you see more Marquise Bell trying to help out
Speaker 10: there a little bit more at linebacker, and that it's
Speaker 10: pretty obvious that Devin Harper and Jabril Cox are now
Speaker 10: you're they were the twos behind Deimone Clark and Leyton
Speaker 10: van Dersh.
Speaker 9: But even in that, I mean, I can't.
Speaker 10: Say that anything really stood out from there, and even
Speaker 10: in like individual plays, I'm just thinking of the last
Speaker 10: two days, Like there was the one go ball that
Speaker 10: Dak threw up on the right sideline to Brandon Cook's
Speaker 10: and it was a nice ball because he put him
Speaker 10: between Gilmour and jay Ron Curse, so it's you know,
Speaker 10: good on good.
Speaker 9: So those always stand out to me.
Speaker 10: And then there was the one where we don't get
Speaker 10: to see Dak with a ton of time, just because
Speaker 10: I always feel like in most of these when it's
Speaker 10: ones versus ones, it's either Lawrence or Parsons closing in.
Speaker 10: But he had some time yesterday and he had CD
Speaker 10: on that deep ball up near like where he actually
Speaker 10: had enough time to come across the field and hit
Speaker 10: him on the deep ball up on the left side.
Speaker 10: And then one other play was with Schoonmaker in the
Speaker 10: back of the end zone yesterday working with Greer, just
Speaker 10: a nice one handed grab And just getting a chance
Speaker 10: to talk to Schoonmaker the other day after practice, like
Speaker 10: says that there's not really any pain in the foot.
Speaker 10: He's been working out, trying to build up the strength around.
Speaker 10: It seems like he's in position to where he can contribute.
Speaker 10: And so for maybe people listening to this, that's not
Speaker 10: that big of a deal. But I think everyone has
Speaker 10: different perspectives and things, and I was kind of wondering, like,
Speaker 10: is this gonna be a thing where he just got
Speaker 10: to play through pain for a while. Is it ever
Speaker 10: going to come back to where he's fully healthy this season?
Speaker 10: Like how long is this gonna be a nagging thing
Speaker 10: that we're talking about all a year. So it seems
Speaker 10: like he's, you know, ascending, heading it, heading in the
Speaker 10: right direction.
Speaker 8: I guess yeah.
Speaker 6: He's really starting to set confidence too. They're integrating him
Speaker 6: more and more every day that passes. And even in
Speaker 6: this past preseason game, I think we may have touched
Speaker 6: on the last show, but designed third down plays to
Speaker 6: him where he's picking up the first down, even on
Speaker 6: the play that John Stevens got hurt. That was probably
Speaker 6: his biggest design towards him, and so they're definitely trying
Speaker 6: to integrate him as much as possible. But as far
Speaker 6: as like the last two days, yeah, that dack ball
Speaker 6: to Brandon Cooks definitely stood out. There was a play
Speaker 6: from I believe it was Cooper Rush to semi Fojoco
Speaker 6: down the left sideline oo joemyt yesterday that was big
Speaker 6: time and I think it's gonna be interesting going into
Speaker 6: this last week with the semi Fojoko, Jaln Brooks insert
Speaker 6: anyone else in that conversation as well. Battle and Will
Speaker 6: Greer said yesterday that Jalen Cropper's really starting to stuck
Speaker 6: some good days again after he started camp really strong,
Speaker 6: and I think he could have a big game on
Speaker 6: Saturday too, especially if Tulbert's out.
Speaker 10: I was a little surprised that they didn't give Aubrey
Speaker 10: any opportunities in like a Mojo moment thing with having
Speaker 10: some fans in the crowd and stuff like that. I
Speaker 10: just I don't know, he just hasn't had that many
Speaker 10: opportunities even in the games, you know, Like I think
Speaker 10: we had talked about at the end of the game
Speaker 10: in Seattle, he had a chance. They could have probably
Speaker 10: brought him out for a forty five yard field goal.
Speaker 2: YEP. I don't know.
Speaker 10: They might just feel a lot more comfortable about the
Speaker 10: situation than maybe I do and some fans do. But
Speaker 10: I thought during one of those mojo moments the last
Speaker 10: few days, because they've had the fans, I was thinking like,
Speaker 10: maybe they would try and get the fans get loud
Speaker 10: and put them in a pressure type situation.
Speaker 4: I know we were sitting in the booth on Tuesday
Speaker 4: and they were in the middle of a mojo moment
Speaker 4: and it was thunder thunder, thunder, and they were running
Speaker 4: on the field and it was kind of the rush deal,
Speaker 4: and I thought they would do it a couple times.
Speaker 2: They did it once. Yeah, he knocked it.
Speaker 4: Through, but it was like a twenty nine versus a
Speaker 4: super short field goal, and the crowd really didn't get
Speaker 4: into it a whole lot. At that point, I was
Speaker 4: saying to Nick and Booth, I was like, Man, if
Speaker 4: I'm jog Fossil and I've got the microphone and the
Speaker 4: head headset put up, I'm trying to get the crowd
Speaker 4: hype before every snap all right, guys, like you've got
Speaker 4: six thousand in the building.
Speaker 10: All you got to do is put on the right song.
Speaker 10: Come on, everybody will get it.
Speaker 2: Get into it a little.
Speaker 10: Bit if you want to do that, or now, song
Speaker 10: are you putting on? Don't move me on this spot,
Speaker 10: let me get back, get back.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll think about it. We'll start the
Speaker 2: second segment.
Speaker 9: It might be different for me than it will be
Speaker 9: for other people.
Speaker 4: It's Mumford and Sons. No, it's a fast card by
Speaker 4: Luke Combs. That's what's coming on. That's Isaiah's playlist. So
Speaker 4: we've we've heard a couple different times offensive line, and
Speaker 4: we've talked a lot about the offensive line on this show,
Speaker 4: whether it was out an ox narder.
Speaker 8: Now that we're back here in.
Speaker 4: Frisco and you've talked about the revolving door and the
Speaker 4: lack of continuity, and it continues to kind of show itself.
Speaker 2: Tuesday was a rough practice for the offensive line.
Speaker 4: It felt like every play, to John's point earlier, it
Speaker 4: was DeMarcus Lawrence, it was Sam Williams, it was Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons getting in the backfield, and Dak Prescott was under
Speaker 4: pressure constantly.
Speaker 2: Yesterday it felt like they took a step forward a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 4: Is that encouraging enough, Nick to where you can say,
Speaker 4: I know it's only one practice, but you're seeing a
Speaker 4: bit of improvement even with the extra reps that have
Speaker 4: been added in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I need to see consistency. That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 6: Like one good day does nothing for me. It doesn't
Speaker 6: matter who you are, if you're Michael Parsons or Josh
Speaker 6: Ball or whoever on this roster, you gotta stack good
Speaker 6: days because when you need a reliable offensive line option,
Speaker 6: whenever that problem or issue does a rise during the season,
Speaker 6: then you need consistency. You need that reliability. I think
Speaker 6: there are there are a couple of intriguing options right now,
Speaker 6: especially if we can get through at least ten weeks
Speaker 6: before having to really tap into that depth. That's a
Speaker 6: long time. That's the goal I'm shooting for. I know,
Speaker 6: I know it's a long time. That's the goal I'm
Speaker 6: shooting for, though, And I because I think by that time,
Speaker 6: rookie Austin Richards he'll have completely settled in by that point,
Speaker 6: whether he can come in at left tack or left
Speaker 6: guard TJ.
Speaker 8: Bass.
Speaker 6: I know we were talking about it, and we'll probably
Speaker 6: talk about it more on Monday. I think he's very
Speaker 6: close to making this team, and if he can stack
Speaker 6: good confidence, then you know, maybe there's a right guard
Speaker 6: option there as well. And then you got guys like
Speaker 6: will let's go farnioc. I think those guys just need
Speaker 6: time this year, get back used to playing with their
Speaker 6: guys and rotating in when they can. But I don't
Speaker 6: feel great about the consistency or reliability right now, even
Speaker 6: if they did have a good day yesterday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't like the fact that none of us
Speaker 7: can sit here right now and say who number six
Speaker 7: should be?
Speaker 8: Yeah, who would your number six be? Depends on who
Speaker 8: goes down?
Speaker 2: Well, right now, right now, who's your number six?
Speaker 8: I mean what I'm saying, it depends on who goes down.
Speaker 7: If I mean, if we're at the tackle position, then
Speaker 7: you're back to shuffling chairs around.
Speaker 6: My question would be, if left tackle goes down, then
Speaker 6: Tyler out and put in the left guard or who
Speaker 6: do you put it? Left tackle?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to put bump Tyler out. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's that's automatic.
Speaker 8: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now you're back to the musical chairs. So yeah,
Speaker 7: bump Tyler Tyler Smith out and then you're inserting who
Speaker 7: farnioc yeah bad, like Richard slide him down. I mean
Speaker 7: like you don't know, and like I'm saying, because you
Speaker 7: don't know, I got the bubble guts.
Speaker 9: I don't eve think my number six on this is
Speaker 9: on the team right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and now when I'm gonna say this name, I'm
Speaker 10: not saying this player don't do it. And I'm not
Speaker 10: saying that the return on investment they got from this player,
Speaker 10: but I'm saying something along the lines of how they
Speaker 10: went and got Jason Peters. But I'm not saying Jason
Speaker 10: Peters isn't coming back. I'm not saying that, But I'm
Speaker 10: saying that getting a player from another team that you're like, hey,
Speaker 10: you had been a starter in the league for this
Speaker 10: amount of time.
Speaker 9: We need you to be our swing.
Speaker 8: Task sure thing.
Speaker 9: You know that's the type of thing.
Speaker 8: Sure thing? Yeah, a sure thing, something that you could
Speaker 8: rest your head on.
Speaker 7: You're not completely satisfied with it, but you're like, you
Speaker 7: know what, at least I know he knows what he's doing,
Speaker 7: and I know that he's capable of handling the opposition.
Speaker 7: I don't feel as if any of us at this
Speaker 7: table right now feel like we can put our finger
Speaker 7: on anybody right now in the backup, in a backup
Speaker 7: role that can step into the fold. If something happened
Speaker 7: at practice today, we would all be sitting up here like,
Speaker 7: oh crap.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you my player is.
Speaker 10: If we're gonna talk about somebody that's not on the roster,
Speaker 10: it's like somebody that was at training camp for a
Speaker 10: day and I know he doesn't want to come back.
Speaker 9: But is Andrew Whitworth because he has that.
Speaker 10: He could easily be a guy that comes in and
Speaker 10: you're not asking him to like play right away. But
Speaker 10: he even said when we're out there talking to the
Speaker 10: one day that yeah, that ship's kind of sailed because
Speaker 10: he promised his family, like after they won the Super
Speaker 10: Bowl with the Rams, he was done. There's actually a
Speaker 10: really cool NFL Films video of him with his kids
Speaker 10: around him.
Speaker 9: Yeah after the game over time him like Daddy's gonna
Speaker 9: be around or whatever like that.
Speaker 10: But when I saw him ou at practice, I was like, man,
Speaker 10: that's the perfect guy that you come in and be like, hey, Andrew,
Speaker 10: we're not asking you to start. We just need you
Speaker 10: to possibly be the swing tackle. And if something goes.
Speaker 8: Wrong with you, drinks like rifle coffee cover. Yeah, and
Speaker 8: when we need you, we'll call you on it will
Speaker 8: make h.
Speaker 2: Make it happen.
Speaker 6: In front office is going to call and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: it's a three way with Tom Brady, why don't you
Speaker 6: talk to him?
Speaker 11: Hit?
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 4: Some of the guys that are available, I guess at tackle,
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about veterans that have been starters in
Speaker 4: the league. Juwan James, who was in Baltimore most recently.
Speaker 4: He's thirty one years old. Eric Fisher's still out there.
Speaker 4: He was not last with Miami. I mean he's thirty two.
Speaker 4: Justin Pugh.
Speaker 2: He was more of a guard though.
Speaker 4: Taylor Lewan, I don't even know if that's how you
Speaker 4: say his last name, thirty two years old out of Tennessee.
Speaker 4: I mean there's guys there. I mean, none of them
Speaker 4: are gonna move the needle from an offensive line standpoint.
Speaker 4: But if you want a veteran tackle, somebody that could
Speaker 4: come in and at least give you some sort of
Speaker 4: ease of mind and some sort of stability, then maybe
Speaker 4: you go and get some of those guys. I mean,
Speaker 4: you went and signed forty year old Jason Peters last year.
Speaker 4: I guess he was thirty nine, but he was turning
Speaker 4: forty by the time the season got done.
Speaker 2: So these guys are thirty one, thirty two, thirty four.
Speaker 4: It's a possibility that you could go out and get somebody.
Speaker 7: I just think that this organization recognizes how close they are,
Speaker 7: and I think they realize I know they realized it
Speaker 7: because the moves they made this offseason and what they
Speaker 7: did to go out there and get Cooks, you go
Speaker 7: out there to get Gilmore Right, they're trying their best
Speaker 7: to say what we call secure the bag. I think
Speaker 7: he will be a mistake personally. I believe it will
Speaker 7: be a mistake to not give yourself a sure thing
Speaker 7: option for that scenario that has occurred every year for
Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys. So I think that they need to
Speaker 7: prepare themselves for that. Obviously, free agency dog on Denver
Speaker 7: grab all the high dollar guys that you could ever imagine.
Speaker 7: But I still think that there has to be something
Speaker 7: that you can do, whether it's when this ninety man
Speaker 7: goes down to fifty three and you go out there
Speaker 7: and try to hurry and suit somebody up, or you
Speaker 7: go out there and you use some of these assets
Speaker 7: that you still have and you try to trade for
Speaker 7: it before guys start getting flipped around. I just think
Speaker 7: that you have to secure that because it's been a
Speaker 7: reoccurring problem and there's two position groups right now that
Speaker 7: none of us feel secure about. Is to backup office alignment,
Speaker 7: and it's the linebacker depth, both of those spots. I
Speaker 7: feel like something has to be done to assure confidence
Speaker 7: going into this year, and.
Speaker 2: It may take that next step.
Speaker 4: It may take till next week, the middle of next week,
Speaker 4: whenever those roster cutdowns do end up happening, because it
Speaker 4: is I mean, you think about the chaos that couldn't
Speaker 4: next week because there aren't tiered cuts anymore. It's not
Speaker 4: one week, two week, three week, and then you're at
Speaker 4: fifty three from ninety to begin with hundred players. It
Speaker 4: is ninety players to fifty three in one day across thirty.
Speaker 2: Two teams in the league. I mean, what is that?
Speaker 2: Thirty seven players?
Speaker 8: Twenty seven players almost telve hundred players?
Speaker 6: Four good math?
Speaker 9: Wow?
Speaker 8: Dropping the same day quarterback.
Speaker 9: I wish, I wish you guys, I wish.
Speaker 8: Jill Jones credit for that one.
Speaker 10: I wish you guys could have seen, like inside my
Speaker 10: mind when you guys are gona like, please don't come
Speaker 10: to me, It's like.
Speaker 4: It looks like Zach Gallafernakis, like in the yeah oh
Speaker 4: yeah yeah about the formulas facing the.
Speaker 9: Front guys, there's no chance word here, right.
Speaker 4: Thirty thirty seven players across thirty two teams, and of
Speaker 4: course a lot of those guys are gonna end up
Speaker 4: on practice squads, and of course teams will try and
Speaker 4: keep their guys, but there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 4: mixing and matching. So maybe that's the next step in
Speaker 4: the process. Maybe that's what it takes, and then after
Speaker 4: that you reevaluate. But if if we were the front office,
Speaker 4: if we were in the GM chair for this team,
Speaker 4: where would you rank the priorities, Because I think in
Speaker 4: the off season going into it, you were saying wide
Speaker 4: receiver was.
Speaker 2: Priority, corner was what priority? Offensive line?
Speaker 4: You've gotten two of those taken care of out of
Speaker 4: the three, with running back being one, we'll say, linebacker
Speaker 4: being two, offensive line being three.
Speaker 2: Where would you mix those in order?
Speaker 7: Reversing your order on O line, linebacker, running backs.
Speaker 2: I think I'm the same way.
Speaker 4: So there's maybe the thought process that you have to
Speaker 4: go through next week, because you could use a guy
Speaker 4: at each one of those positions. I feel best about
Speaker 4: running backs, specifically because of what we've seen from Deuce
Speaker 4: Vaughan Regodoudel. I feel much more comfortable there than I
Speaker 4: did maybe two weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: Let's get it done, all right, let's get all the caffee.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll put from Talking Cowboys and Black Rifle Coffee
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Speaker 2: I want you to give me your hype song. What
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 10: So when you asked me earlier, I didn't want to
Speaker 10: say what mine was because I feel like it's outdated
Speaker 10: because I'm an old man now. But I'm a huge
Speaker 10: DMX fan, and so in nineteen ninety eight, he came
Speaker 10: out with this album It's Dark and Hell is Hot,
Speaker 10: and I can listen to the whole thing. But so
Speaker 10: when I was playing high school basketball, our intro was
Speaker 10: always the intro to that. So it just has intro
Speaker 10: as the name of it, but it's the song that,
Speaker 10: like Mike Tyson used to come out to.
Speaker 9: All the time. It's a song that Conor McGregor will
Speaker 9: come out to all the time.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then as soon as that song ends, it's
Speaker 10: only like maybe about ninety seconds, So as soon as
Speaker 10: that ends, it goes right into the rough Rider's anthem.
Speaker 10: And so just like those two, you can just play
Speaker 10: him back to back like that, and I mean there's
Speaker 10: I don't think there's anything for me that that would
Speaker 10: top those.
Speaker 2: I like that. I love a good album, run album
Speaker 2: all the way down.
Speaker 8: I just got to visual him coming out of the tunnel,
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, with Mike Tyson with a towel over his head,
Speaker 8: out on his phone.
Speaker 4: He's tweeting, So he got John tweeting on the way through.
Speaker 9: Because as well of those songs you really like.
Speaker 10: And I remember right around that time, I can't remember
Speaker 10: who thought and he came out with that and I
Speaker 10: was like it was over.
Speaker 9: Yeah, every just.
Speaker 8: Go back to your locker room see Tyson coming down
Speaker 8: with that? Does he have a town cut out? Match
Speaker 8: is over?
Speaker 2: What would your song be? Did you have a song
Speaker 2: back in the day?
Speaker 7: I have many songs about to say U DMX guy myself,
Speaker 7: but for me or for the crowd, because that's that
Speaker 7: was the question was about for practice, right, turn it up.
Speaker 7: So if it was that practice, I would say, stand
Speaker 7: up and get crunkd by yingang twins. Okay, I think
Speaker 7: that crosses generations, right, and I think I think anybody
Speaker 7: would a pulse gets moving with that one. So that's
Speaker 7: that's my that's my choice for for practice. Yeah, let's
Speaker 7: say let's keep not shooting in if.
Speaker 6: We're saying in the time era, then I'll go trying
Speaker 6: to make it to heaven by a fifty cent because
Speaker 6: that that that definitely gets me going. But if we're
Speaker 6: talking current salute by future, so okay, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 6: the future.
Speaker 9: A lot of those types of yeah, yeah, it definitely does.
Speaker 10: He can go for like a little bit where I
Speaker 10: don't feel like I'm hearing anything that really stands out
Speaker 10: like that, and then he'll just come out with a
Speaker 10: banger that you're just like, well, where did this come?
Speaker 6: This man's forty three putting out hits?
Speaker 9: Is he really forty three?
Speaker 6: He's in his forties, I know.
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, I did not think that at all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know where there's nothing wrong with being forty three
Speaker 4: by the way, Yeah, nothing.
Speaker 9: Wrong, nothing wrong, a lot of wisdom.
Speaker 2: It's like a fine wine. No, it's great. The I
Speaker 2: don't know where I would go.
Speaker 4: I was really in the like hard rock back in
Speaker 4: the day. I wasn't really like evere.
Speaker 2: Rap guy real yeah, like like hard.
Speaker 8: Rocks from Yeah, I messed somebody from Waco yesterday.
Speaker 2: I thought about it.
Speaker 8: Did I promise you had had a new client come in?
Speaker 8: I was like, where are you from?
Speaker 2: Went to high school?
Speaker 8: I'm not she's a little younger.
Speaker 9: That was okay, was talking like Metallica.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little bit of Metallica, like they were great. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They were in at at and T Stadium the other day,
Speaker 4: did you Yeah. I was actually a little sad because
Speaker 4: we were in Seattle.
Speaker 2: I would love to go to that. Uh like Headstrong
Speaker 2: by Trap? Do you remember that song? Like that was
Speaker 2: like big back in the day, like that one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: late nineties, early two thousands.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Oh jesus, I wasn't like like wear the
Speaker 4: black clothes all the way through and like.
Speaker 8: Honey like film honey pictures.
Speaker 9: This is the shortest, No, this is the shortest your
Speaker 9: hair has ever been?
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I used to have the long wavy Nick
Speaker 4: can attest to this. I used to have the long
Speaker 4: wavy hair all the way through like high.
Speaker 2: School and everything. Research I'll pull it up on Facebook
Speaker 2: out right now.
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 10: And I don't know, maybe it was an iconic to
Speaker 10: you guys, but to me was that esp AND commercial
Speaker 10: with John Clayton. He was doing his like Live Read
Speaker 10: or whatever like that, and you know, he's obviously not
Speaker 10: some of you think would get into slay or whatever
Speaker 10: like that, and then it's cut. As soon as Live
Speaker 10: Reads over, he's like undoes his hair and he's turns
Speaker 10: on his headbanger music and then yells, yells down to
Speaker 10: his mom that his set's done.
Speaker 9: What he's doing upstairs in his room.
Speaker 2: Like jumps on his bed. He's got the Chinese food,
Speaker 2: He's got like chop. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 10: Like it's I don't know, I don't remember the exact
Speaker 10: dates that there were, but from like I don't know,
Speaker 10: like late nineties to maybe two thousand and five or
Speaker 10: something like that, ESPN had so many of those good
Speaker 10: commercials like that where I think it was I think
Speaker 10: it was Sports Center, Like I mean, there was one
Speaker 10: where I was saying com was.
Speaker 9: It wasn't the one with Romo where.
Speaker 10: Like he was working the desk and then like they
Speaker 10: asked him for like an extension or something like that,
Speaker 10: and he used the armband to like look up, who
Speaker 10: wasn't that one of those.
Speaker 8: I like sports.
Speaker 2: I always like the one with like big Poppy.
Speaker 4: That's David Ortiz and Jorge Pisadas right next to him
Speaker 4: and the Yankees, and he was like, you don't even
Speaker 4: wear your hat right.
Speaker 2: He pulls it up and he like bins the brain.
Speaker 4: He puts it on, and then the Finnway mascot walks by,
Speaker 4: like the Red Sox mascot walks by, and he just
Speaker 4: like drops his books and like storms off.
Speaker 10: There was so many good Stuart Scott ones, like Russian
Speaker 10: spy ones.
Speaker 4: That one, the one whe the elevator walk opens up
Speaker 4: in the New Jersey devil mask.
Speaker 14: Up and he looks at him and goes nope, and
Speaker 14: he's like, we'll take the next one.
Speaker 2: I've got some pictures. I don't want to put them on.
Speaker 9: No, No, let's see what I want to see any
Speaker 9: you want to be put it on here.
Speaker 2: This is me and my buddy case and this is
Speaker 2: when we were doing a skit in uh in high school?
Speaker 8: That's the hair.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, that was ponytail level.
Speaker 2: But okay, not ponytail level. I'm trying to find something.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever had like ponytail level, but
Speaker 2: it was, I mean it was.
Speaker 10: Long, Isaiah more disappointed in his life.
Speaker 2: You don't like it?
Speaker 4: All right, let's uh, let's take our first call. Let's
Speaker 4: go out to Baltimore. Derek and Baltimore. You're on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4: How's it going?
Speaker 15: I'm good. How's it doing?
Speaker 2: Fellers doing great? What what would be your hype song? First?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't know about a hot song. I'm like, no,
Speaker 15: I'm just all concentrating on these boys.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good way to put it. You're all
Speaker 2: locked in. What's on your mind?
Speaker 15: Okay, I just watched the Risk Is Baltimore Games of
Speaker 15: the other day, Cody. Okay, I'm just curious about what
Speaker 15: team in division you think we are capable of? But
Speaker 15: we probably sweep this year, or do you think we're
Speaker 15: gonna split against every divisional opponent.
Speaker 6: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: All right, great question. Thank you for calling in.
Speaker 4: As always, I'll start with you, Isaiah, who is the
Speaker 4: lock to sweep. He's referring to the commanders there, of course,
Speaker 4: But do you think do you think there's multiple teams?
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a chance you sweep all of
Speaker 2: those teams.
Speaker 8: I'm not to go and look at this dog on schedule.
Speaker 2: I can pull it up. I'll pull it up for us.
Speaker 2: What do you think, John just off here?
Speaker 10: I think they go for into the division. I think
Speaker 10: they lose one of the Giants and one to Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you think they'll lose a home game? Who
Speaker 2: do you think both of those come on the road.
Speaker 9: I think they lose at home to the Giants, Okay,
Speaker 9: and they win.
Speaker 16: The opener, so the opener at New York, Yeah, and
Speaker 16: then week they don't see another divisional opponent till week
Speaker 16: nine at Philadelphia first week of November in Philly. Then
Speaker 16: you go at home versus the Giants after that game,
Speaker 16: So that would make sense.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't.
Speaker 10: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if they went five
Speaker 10: to one. I definitely do not see them sweeping it.
Speaker 10: I think it would be tough. Just if you asked
Speaker 10: them if they would sweep the Eagles, I think it
Speaker 10: would be tough to that now that your commander. Sure
Speaker 10: I could see that depending on where their season goes,
Speaker 10: but I don't know.
Speaker 8: It's hard to say. Until they say everybody touches.
Speaker 9: It really is, then you don't know how healthy the
Speaker 9: team's gonna be.
Speaker 10: I mean, heck, if you just looked at the schedule
Speaker 10: last year from an opponent standpoint and you told them, yeah,
Speaker 10: you're not gonna have Dak Prescott for like this five
Speaker 10: game stretch which includes like the Rams and the Bengals,
Speaker 10: and like, I don't think anybody would have had the
Speaker 10: Cowboys going four and one during that stretch without Dak Prescott.
Speaker 10: So it's so hard to project. But as I look
Speaker 10: at the rosters right now, like I clearly think it's
Speaker 10: a two team race. I think it's the Eagles and
Speaker 10: the Cowboys, and then the Giants are next step down,
Speaker 10: and then Washington is a step down from them. But
Speaker 10: the other part that's you have to factor in is
Speaker 10: and I know this might sound stupid and not have
Speaker 10: any logic to it, but just look at how this
Speaker 10: division's been since two thousand and five, Like, you just
Speaker 10: do not have repeat winners in to win the division.
Speaker 10: But the other thing is is just how often, the
Speaker 10: team that you think is going to be the worst
Speaker 10: in the division ends up being one of the best.
Speaker 10: It's happened to the Cowboys multiple times over the years.
Speaker 10: I mean, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, you know, I did
Speaker 10: not think that the Cowboys would win that division or
Speaker 10: even be in the conversation. You know, I remember one
Speaker 10: of those years out in training camp. I'll never forget
Speaker 10: it because it was the only time I've ever heard
Speaker 10: Jerry go like, you know, it's gonna be an uphill battle.
Speaker 10: I'm just like Jerry Jones at that Wait a second, yeah,
Speaker 10: at the training camp press conference, like the kick everything off,
Speaker 10: and it ended up being one of their best seasons.
Speaker 10: And so that's the only reason I don't completely slam
Speaker 10: the door in Washington as being like the clear fourth.
Speaker 10: I mean, I just when they went with Sam Howell,
Speaker 10: I'm like, I got it. I'm gonna have to see
Speaker 10: a little bit more, just because it seems like they're
Speaker 10: pretty unproven there at that spot.
Speaker 6: The way the schedule is constructed, in my eyes, the opener,
Speaker 6: I feel like that's that's an opportunity that everybody's used
Speaker 6: to playing on Sunday night to start the season on
Speaker 6: the road, I don't think I think they get that
Speaker 6: one going at Philly. Don't think they get that one.
Speaker 6: But getting the Giants the very next week, I think
Speaker 6: that's a good bounce back opportunity. So I say they
Speaker 6: sweep the Giants, split against Philly, and I say they
Speaker 6: split against Washington just because you have to go to
Speaker 6: Washington in Week eighteen. We saw how that kind of
Speaker 6: happened last year. That was bad playoff layover. But who knows,
Speaker 6: maybe they come in this year with that on their
Speaker 6: minds and like, hey, let's beat them by forty.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and let's not forget Washington has some pieces,
Speaker 4: They have some talent, especially defensively. They still have a
Speaker 4: pretty solid front seven. Their defensive line still pretty good.
Speaker 4: As long as they can stay healthy. You get them
Speaker 4: late in the season, and if your offensive line is
Speaker 4: warned down, that could be a tough matchup. And we
Speaker 4: just talked about the offensive line depth and how it
Speaker 4: could stretch late into the season. So I think, just
Speaker 4: to give my answer, I think they sweep the Giants.
Speaker 2: I don't. I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I could see them being tight games, but I just
Speaker 4: think they're better, especially if Dak is healthy and he's
Speaker 4: your quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think you're going to sweep the Giants.
Speaker 4: I think you sweep Washington, even with it to be
Speaker 4: in that last game, and then I think you split
Speaker 4: against Philly, but I think it's gonna be a flip sweep.
Speaker 2: I think you lose at home and then you win
Speaker 2: on the road. Is where I think.
Speaker 4: That's my weird prediction because it just never seems to
Speaker 4: go the way you think against Philly and in the
Speaker 4: NFC East in general. So I think this team is
Speaker 4: good enough to win the division. Are they a lock
Speaker 4: to win the division? Absolutely not. This is a tough division.
Speaker 4: Three teams made the playoffs last year for a reason.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to earn your keep in the NFC East,
Speaker 4: no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: From the five to.
Speaker 4: One two, which duo has the most impact this season?
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks, Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour,
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 8: Those are the three duos.
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 8: I like that question?
Speaker 7: They go hen in hand, right, I'm got let's go
Speaker 7: with Trayvon and Gilmore because of a DEFERENDI line you
Speaker 7: had Lamb. No, I don't hate c Lamb.
Speaker 2: You hate Michael Parsons, not at all.
Speaker 7: I think Michael Parsons, D Law and the rest of
Speaker 7: their committee up there are going to do wonders for
Speaker 7: a Trayvon Diggs and Stefanie Gilmore. So they're going to
Speaker 7: be the benefactor of the front seven pressure.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that mean that the most impactful if the impact
Speaker 4: comes from the defensive line, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: You can say, you can say both, right, I mean
Speaker 8: you could. You can say both. I mean because coverage.
Speaker 7: Coverage allows for the for the D line to get
Speaker 7: home too, So it's kind of hard to separate those two.
Speaker 7: But I think, I think that tandem of cornerbacks is
Speaker 7: going to be a complete problem for a lot of teams.
Speaker 10: And having both those guys makes me really believe they
Speaker 10: have a legit shot at being the league leader in
Speaker 10: takeaways for a third straight year, which is just silly
Speaker 10: to think of because it's gone since the early seventies.
Speaker 10: Even have a back to back to If they were
Speaker 10: to lead the league three years in a row like that,
Speaker 10: just that's that's such a huge outlier.
Speaker 9: But they have the piece to do it.
Speaker 10: But for me, it's got to be Lamb and Cooks
Speaker 10: just because of the fact of I just love how
Speaker 10: much they line them up together and how much they
Speaker 10: can play off of each other, and and I think
Speaker 10: their skill sets fit each other. Cooks being the savvy veteran,
Speaker 10: you know, yeah, you could have maybe, you know, obviously
Speaker 10: we saw some times here where they had you could say,
Speaker 10: quote unquote two number ones with a Mari and CD. Like,
Speaker 10: I just think the way Cooks and CD Lamb fit together,
Speaker 10: it's like the perfect one two punch. I would try
Speaker 10: and have them as close to each other as possible,
Speaker 10: just because, like enforces, the safety have to make decision
Speaker 10: and both of them are just huge play, big play threats.
Speaker 10: And then the other part of it is is that
Speaker 10: there's like a big drop off from me between them
Speaker 10: two and everybody else with who Dak's most comfortable with,
Speaker 10: at least what I've seen from these practices. And when
Speaker 10: I say that, it's because you know, you don't have Shultz,
Speaker 10: who was obviously like a deck safety blanket, And that
Speaker 10: could be Ferguson, that might be Luke Schoonmaker, who knows,
Speaker 10: but as we see it right now, or as I
Speaker 10: see it right now, like Lamb and Cooks are just
Speaker 10: like they just seem like I mean, they're just lockstep
Speaker 10: with Dak, knowing exactly where he's going to be, where
Speaker 10: the throws are going to be.
Speaker 6: I was twying with both of these answers. My answer
Speaker 6: is going to be Trayvon and Stefan, But I hope
Speaker 6: the answer eventually becomes Lamb and Cooks, just because we
Speaker 6: saw what a lack of playmakers did to this offense
Speaker 6: and whenever it mattered last year. So having these guys
Speaker 6: ready to go whenever week eighteen, week nineteen playoffs come around,
Speaker 6: you know, it's I would love for that to be
Speaker 6: the answer.
Speaker 8: It's kind of scary, I'll say.
Speaker 7: I say it's as scary because as good as Gilmore
Speaker 7: and Diggs can be together, I don't know if we're
Speaker 7: if Dallas is at a point where they've created enough
Speaker 7: of a deterrent not for teams to not attack them
Speaker 7: the way that they always have, which is on the ground, right,
Speaker 7: so there's a deterren on the outside. I don't want
Speaker 7: to throw the ball either way. So knowing that I
Speaker 7: want to throw the ball, now, what am I going
Speaker 7: to do? I got to run it right. And obviously
Speaker 7: Hankins is back, big Molesei Smith is still learning.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 7: Is there enough of a deterrent on the interior defensive
Speaker 7: line now to really just change the team's approach?
Speaker 8: And I just don't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially with the questions.
Speaker 10: But that death that inbacker two, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 10: the thing that teams are gonna do. They're going to
Speaker 10: try and run at them, and if you can stop it,
Speaker 10: then that's great, and then you're playing right in their hands.
Speaker 10: But they're gonna make you try and beat them that way.
Speaker 6: I've talked about this with Nick Eatman. To start the season,
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley, Dalvin Cook, week three, James Connor. Does that
Speaker 6: even count as kind of a layup though? Week four? Zeke?
Speaker 6: Week five?
Speaker 2: Who's week five?
Speaker 6: That is san Fran Yeah, McCaffrey, Christian must eler before
Speaker 6: you go into your bye week. So they're gonna get
Speaker 6: that running game. They're gonna have to get that running
Speaker 6: game figured out very early on. It's funny, perhaps by fire.
Speaker 4: The front part of your season is loaded with tailbacks
Speaker 4: and and sporadically wide receivers, receivers and then you've got
Speaker 4: the middle of your your your schedule that has of
Speaker 4: course Cooper Cup, DeVante Smith, aj Brown, the Giants and
Speaker 4: all their short wide receivers, and then you've got at
Speaker 4: the end of the season, you've got the quarterbacks. You've
Speaker 4: got Jalen Hurts, Gino Smith, Kyle to a tongue about Lowa,
Speaker 4: Jared Goff, Like, it's all that at the back end.
Speaker 4: So it's almost like your your schedules cut in thirds.
Speaker 4: First third is run game, middle third is weaponry on
Speaker 4: the outside, and then the last third is quarterbacks. So
Speaker 4: that's kind of where it's.
Speaker 10: Reason I agree with Isaiah on the on the running
Speaker 10: back part of it because even when you say that
Speaker 10: to me, I think of just going into those Vikings
Speaker 10: games last couple years because I think Justin Jefferson is
Speaker 10: the best receiver in the league and the way that
Speaker 10: they were able to neutralize him because of you know,
Speaker 10: having digs and some of the stuff in and now
Speaker 10: you add gilmore to that. I can deal with like
Speaker 10: even one of those guys, one of those receivers maybe
Speaker 10: having a big it's the running game though, that could
Speaker 10: really gouge you, and then it keeps your offense off
Speaker 10: the field, and then it's keeping your defense on the
Speaker 10: field of these long, you know, drives and wearing them down.
Speaker 10: That would be That's been a way bigger concern for
Speaker 10: me than those big name receivers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I'm trying to even think about it.
Speaker 2: I think I agree with you. I think I do.
Speaker 4: I think it's Gilmore and and Digs that make the
Speaker 4: biggest impact because you've had Micah and d Law, you've
Speaker 4: had Ceedee Lamb and another wide receiver before, but you've
Speaker 4: never seen Diggs and Gilmour and two high end corners
Speaker 4: on this defense. I think it does open things up
Speaker 4: a little bit defensively, and it allows some of those
Speaker 4: guys to run free. I think if Mazzi Smith can
Speaker 4: continue to grow to and Jonathan Hankins can continue to
Speaker 4: push the role that he had last year, then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, those defensive end guys are gonna get
Speaker 4: after it. And I'm not even just talking about d
Speaker 4: Law and Mike. I'm talking about Dorance and Sam Williams
Speaker 4: and some of the guys behind him as well, or
Speaker 4: Dante Foller.
Speaker 10: When you said about the Parsons Lawrence thing, I was like,
Speaker 10: well them two, you know, Yeah, that's that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 10: But it's also that next wave because that reminds me
Speaker 10: of those Giants teams that you know, going into those seasons,
Speaker 10: you were never like, oh well the Giants will probably
Speaker 10: be in the super Bowl. But you know, Eli Manning
Speaker 10: played well at a key moments. But it was really
Speaker 10: that defensive front. It wasn't just like they had one
Speaker 10: good It wasn't just oh see, it wasn't just straighthand
Speaker 10: I mean they just had waves, you know, talk and
Speaker 10: all that.
Speaker 9: That's what makes me think.
Speaker 10: Matthias Kanuka that that's what makes me think if Sam
Speaker 10: Williams can take the jump that it looks like he's
Speaker 10: capable of taking as a player, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 10: you could potentially have three guys double digit sacks, you
Speaker 10: know that, maybe even four, who knows.
Speaker 4: But so you couldn't do math, but you could pull
Speaker 4: these names out of a hat like that earlier.
Speaker 10: No, man, math is always like one of those objects
Speaker 10: in the school where he saw your yeah, tea. Your
Speaker 10: teachers would sit there and they'd be like, you know,
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to learn this because you're not gonna
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Speaker 9: All the time, and I'm like, yes.
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Speaker 4: Back here from the SWBC studios with Isaiah Stanback John
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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's all right, we've got some some hype songs.
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Speaker 4: wrap things up, going into preseason game number three this
Speaker 4: weekend Vegas on Tap seven pm Central Time. Isaiah, you'll
Speaker 4: be in the booth with Bill Jones, Michael Irvin, give
Speaker 4: me one position group that has to have their best
Speaker 4: preseason performance.
Speaker 2: Position group as a whole, and it could be as
Speaker 2: deep of a position group as you want, or it
Speaker 2: could be maybe just one guy in that position group.
Speaker 7: I'm going to go right back to an offensive line.
Speaker 7: I think you still are trying to find your guy, like,
Speaker 7: who are your next handful of guys that you could
Speaker 7: depend on and rely on? Right So that's where my
Speaker 7: attention goes. I think there's still a lot to be
Speaker 7: uncovered there, that's a lot to be shown. I don't
Speaker 7: I don't have a ton of confidence right now in
Speaker 7: that group.
Speaker 10: That's a great one, that would probably be my number one,
Speaker 10: But kickers still lie on my lege. I want to
Speaker 10: see him kick some meaningful field goals, you know, for me,
Speaker 10: I would love it to be one of those games
Speaker 10: where he Brandon Aubery kicks three extra points and three
Speaker 10: field goals, like I'd love for her to see him
Speaker 10: have that many opportunities to see what it looks like there.
Speaker 10: And maybe there's other things that are more important than that,
Speaker 10: but it just that's a guy that there's no depth
Speaker 10: chart there. It's are you the guy? And if you
Speaker 10: are you could be asked to make some really huge
Speaker 10: kicks starting Week one immediately, big time plays that you
Speaker 10: have to make, and so yeah, that's pretty high my list.
Speaker 6: I'm going to focus on the interior offensive line specifically,
Speaker 6: just because there's a lot of guys that have had
Speaker 6: up and down camps, up and down preseasons. In that group.
Speaker 6: You could start with Matt FARNIOK. You could start with
Speaker 6: brock Hoffman, who did really well in the first preseason
Speaker 6: game at center and really struggled at left guard in
Speaker 6: the second preseason game. Awesome Richards whenever he's sliding into
Speaker 6: left guard, which I feel like he's done really good
Speaker 6: work inside. Just somebody that can step up in that
Speaker 6: interior make me feel a little bit more comfortable, and
Speaker 6: preferably not a rookie, you know, because I know those
Speaker 6: guys are going through a process right now, so that's
Speaker 6: a little bit different. I want to see farniok. You know,
Speaker 6: that's a draft pick. That's a guy that I want
Speaker 6: to see step up when it's time and I just
Speaker 6: haven't felt that.
Speaker 7: And when I say offensive line, it's just to your point,
Speaker 7: a lot of these guys are young and they just
Speaker 7: aren't the guys that they're going to be yet, So
Speaker 7: it's just a waiting game. You're they're going to hopefully
Speaker 7: they're going to get to that point where you can
Speaker 7: rely on them when they could be consistent players. But
Speaker 7: right now, in terms of contributions, if they if something
Speaker 7: happened in practice, we've seen a number of guys go
Speaker 7: down as of late. Unfortunately, if something was to happen
Speaker 7: like that on the offensive front right now, you would
Speaker 7: be running around here with your hair on fire and
Speaker 7: invisible fire like Will Ferrell.
Speaker 8: It just don't.
Speaker 7: You'll be running around right now like crazy because you
Speaker 7: don't have that guy that you could say, you know what,
Speaker 7: all right, good, We're still good.
Speaker 8: You don't feel that right now?
Speaker 2: Do any teams in the NFL have that guy?
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, do the thirty two or thirty one other
Speaker 2: teams in the NFL have that same problem though, because
Speaker 2: I feel like there is an offensive line crisis in
Speaker 2: the league as as a whole.
Speaker 7: I mean, Dallas has tried to address this. Sure, right,
Speaker 7: they got ball, they got Will Let's go. I mean
Speaker 7: they've been working towards this, right, they got Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: Think they've drafted guys.
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith was an investment, but Ball and will let's
Speaker 4: go with day three picks that they're hoping panned.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, they're hoping right, but their thy injury riddled right.
Speaker 7: And then also some of the progress has been slowed.
Speaker 7: So I mean, so some of these things that they
Speaker 7: planned just haven't panned out. So it's not like they
Speaker 7: weren't aware and they didn't try to rested, it's just
Speaker 7: the game plan hasn't went the way that they've hoped.
Speaker 7: So now is that I think it's at a point
Speaker 7: in time in their year where they're like, we have to.
Speaker 8: I believe that they need to pull the trigger and make.
Speaker 7: Something happen just to just to put their mind at ease,
Speaker 7: because there's too much writing on this year to have
Speaker 7: a question mark that big spot like that, a big
Speaker 7: spot that you historically has always put you in a
Speaker 7: position where you have to fill that void.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I look at it as I'm not gonna site
Speaker 10: your neck, Like I know all the depth trits of
Speaker 10: all the other teams, so I just compare it to
Speaker 10: the one team that I cover. And that's when Jason
Speaker 10: Garrett took over as head coach. They were really weak
Speaker 10: on the offensive line. You know, it's the first draft
Speaker 10: pick that they made when he took over. His head
Speaker 10: coach was Tyron Smith, and so it still wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 10: we drafted tire and everything's fixed. So it took a
Speaker 10: couple of years, and I would say after thirteen they
Speaker 10: get Travis Frederick right around that time, you know, then
Speaker 10: fourteen they start went. So from that time thirteen fourteen
Speaker 10: until now, this is the most concerned I've been about that.
Speaker 10: Like I've always felt like there's at least been some
Speaker 10: guys where we're like, yeah, if they need so and so,
Speaker 10: they can step up things. That's why I say if
Speaker 10: I feel that way, they must they have to feel
Speaker 10: that way. And that's why I say I don't think
Speaker 10: that the six my six offensive I'm not necessarily even
Speaker 10: on the team right now. And also because of the
Speaker 10: fact of what they did last year when they went
Speaker 10: and got Peters, Anthony Barr, t Y Hilton, Jonathan Hankins,
Speaker 10: like they were not going to leave some question mark
Speaker 10: positions up just to be well, maybe somebody will step up,
Speaker 10: Like you have to be a little aggressive there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you feel like this trends more to a
Speaker 6: reality if someone goes down. It's similar to last year
Speaker 6: where they put Josh Ball in for the rest of
Speaker 6: the game. That's his tryout and if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 6: go get Jason Peters or someone like that. Quote unquote
Speaker 6: Jason Peters. Yeah, yeah, you were saying earlier, but a
Speaker 6: potential picking up like pick up, Yeah, Well, if.
Speaker 10: You feel if it's a player that's on another team,
Speaker 10: I think right now that you're trying to get off
Speaker 10: of maybe cuts or some type of a trade, I
Speaker 10: think you get away with that. But if it's a
Speaker 10: player like some of those names that Kyle mentioned that
Speaker 10: haven't been playing, you need them to just even be
Speaker 10: in the facility so that they're ramping up for if
Speaker 10: that situation happens. Because if you call one of those
Speaker 10: guys that he mentioned right after, like you don't want
Speaker 10: to throw them out there right now, you know, right
Speaker 10: off of you know who knows what they're doing. I
Speaker 10: just saw a good quote the other day about they
Speaker 10: asked Bill Belichick why I guess the Patriots have signed
Speaker 10: a bunch of guys from the USFL XFL type guys
Speaker 10: and he's like, that's because they're coming off seasons and
Speaker 10: we know that they can come in right away and
Speaker 10: give you something. They might not be as talent as
Speaker 10: some other guys, but a lot of times when you
Speaker 10: work out guys that have been not part of the
Speaker 10: trading camp process, it takes them, you know, some time
Speaker 10: to catch up, whereas at least we know these guys
Speaker 10: can come in and do something right now. They might
Speaker 10: not be as talented, but we know that they can
Speaker 10: kind of hit the ground run.
Speaker 4: And yet that's an interesting wrinkle. I mean it's true.
Speaker 4: I mean you've seen it a couple different times. I mean,
Speaker 4: look at what Cavante Turpin did last year in the preseason,
Speaker 4: coming off of a season like that, and I.
Speaker 2: Think there's levels to it for sure.
Speaker 4: To answer the original question, I think offensive line is
Speaker 4: the easy answer for me as well, but I'll flip
Speaker 4: it to the interior of the defensive line.
Speaker 2: I'm want to see Mazzie Smith have his best performance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to see him step up because there
Speaker 4: were times in that Seattle game where he was getting turned,
Speaker 4: he's getting pushed off the ball. He looked like a
Speaker 4: first year player. I need him to look like a
Speaker 4: first round player. I wanted to switch a little bit
Speaker 4: for him, and there's flashes, no doubt, there's flashes of it,
Speaker 4: and it's one player too.
Speaker 2: But I want it to be more consistent and I
Speaker 2: wanted to continue.
Speaker 4: Forward, especially whenever you give up four and a half
Speaker 4: yards per carry.
Speaker 2: And one hundred and forty one yards on the ground.
Speaker 4: So I want the defensive tackles and I want the
Speaker 4: first round pick Mazzi Smith to have a better week
Speaker 4: in week three. But again seven pm Central time kickoff.
Speaker 4: Catch Isaiah on the call, Good luck my bud, appreciate
Speaker 4: you well, get after it on Saturday for John Matchoda,
Speaker 4: for Nick Harris, for Isaiah standback, Chris Beam in the back.
Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the SWBC studios.
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