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Speaker 1: Hi guys, welcome back to Post Run High. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host Kate Max and this show is where we explore movement,

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Speaker 1: not just the kind that pushes us physically, but the

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Speaker 1: kind that keeps us moving forward in life. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: joined by Mark and Suelos. He's an actor, host and

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Speaker 1: forever student of reinvention. Mark takes us back to the

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Speaker 1: very beginning, how he got into acting, the leap of

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Speaker 1: faith that changed the course of his life, and what

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Speaker 1: those early years taught him about resilience. We also dive

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Speaker 1: into how he's continued to reinvent himself over the years,

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Speaker 1: from beloved TV roles to his current gig co hosting

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Speaker 1: Live with Kelly and Mark alongside his wife Kelly Rippa.

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Speaker 1: Mark opens up about the discipline that keeps him grounded,

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Speaker 1: what it's like to share both a marriage and a

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Speaker 1: morning show with your partner, and how he balances the

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Speaker 1: demands of career, family and personal growth. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get our post Run High going. Mark Consuelos, welcome to

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Is it okay that I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting on your velvet chair and I'm I'm still leaking here?

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Speaker 2: I am still sweating.

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Speaker 1: You know what you're not.

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Speaker 2: This is normal, right, this is normal.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because this is our first summer doing the podcast.

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Speaker 1: We started back in the fall and it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit chillier out outside. People didn't get us sweaty.

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Speaker 1: And my dad walked in in the winter and he

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Speaker 1: said to me, Kate, velvet chairs are not a good idea.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I was so worried. I put a

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Speaker 1: That's so respectful of you. Yeah, so guys, for our listeners,

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Speaker 1: Mark is currently sitting with a paper towel on the

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Speaker 1: base of the chair, which I'm not. I'm fully sweating

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Speaker 1: into this, but I think it's okay because this is

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Speaker 1: a little that's good. We just ran a couple miles

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Speaker 2: I feel strangely really good. I haven't run in a

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Speaker 2: So this is the first time, and I kind of

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Speaker 2: feel great. I am getting that little like afterword, that

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Speaker 1: Well, Mark has had a big workout day because we

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Speaker 1: did our run, but right before you did a lift out.

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Speaker 1: So I love knowing that working out is a big

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Speaker 1: part of your life. It's it's been a huge part

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, I I always worked out. I

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Speaker 2: And that's a that's been a really big focus for me,

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Speaker 1: And that part was Riverdale.

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Speaker 1: But it is so true, like you're on camera every day,

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Speaker 1: I feel like when you when you feel your best,

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Speaker 2: And it seems like you learn something new every day,

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Speaker 1: What did your routine look like when you were getting ready?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like, you know, outside of looking good

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Speaker 1: bit about your early life where you grew up.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah, born in Spain and we moved. I was

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Speaker 2: method type of performance preparation for acting. And I was

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00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 2: really fascinated with that, and through that, I got an

438
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: agent quickly, and and like I said, a couple months

439
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 2: after I graduated college. So the whole like acting, I'm

440
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: going to do this for a living thing was probably

441
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: like a five month journey. And what's funny is I

442
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: came up. It was quick. I came up to New

443
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: York for a wedding. Uh actually was in Pennsylvania, but

444
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: we had some It was like a short drive over

445
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: to New York. And this is before I graduated college.

446
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to research some of the studios

447
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: here in the city, some of the you know, the

448
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: Meisner Studio or HB Studios or I had a list

449
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: and I went and visited and took information. My goal

450
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: was to, you know, get a job at a restaurant

451
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: and study, like study during the day, get a job

452
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 2: at you know, work at night, and become like a

453
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: real actor. I had no interest in going to Los Angeles.

454
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: I thought New York was like where I would I

455
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: would do it. And actually I was able to stay

456
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: on the couch of one of my buddies that I

457
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: went to school with at Notre Dame. He was working downtown.

458
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: He said, come up, you can come over and stay

459
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: with me and you go look at schools and we'll

460
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: hang out for the weekend. And I remember walking into

461
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: one of these studios and I had like a little

462
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: brown bag of food with me because it was like lunchtime.

463
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: And I just walk in and I interrupted a meeting.

464
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: There was like a meeting going on, and I knew that,

465
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: and like, I said, hi, and like, how can we

466
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: help you? I said, oh, And they see that I

467
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: have a brown bag, like it looks like food, and

468
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: they oh, is that? And they thought I was the

469
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: delivery guy bringing them the lunch for this meeting. I said, oh, no, no, no,

470
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: I'm just from I'm from Tampa and I'm here to

471
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: you know it was it's one of those high flutent schools.

472
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you which one it is.

473
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: I probably should, but I don't. I I don't have to.

474
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: And they said, I'm here to get some information on

475
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: your program because I want to be an actor. And

476
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: this guy read me. He said, first of all, you've

477
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: interrupted a meeting. Okay, this is not the time or

478
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: the place. There's a two year waiting list for the

479
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: privilege to audition to get into this place. Okay, so

480
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: maybe should do your homework before you you you you

481
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: should do your homework about that man. You should go

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 2: back to Tampa and maybe do your homework, he read me.

483
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's exactly what he said, but

484
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: it was along those lines, along those lines, yes. And

485
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: so I walked out of that that studio and I

486
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: started having this conversation with myself and I said, what

487
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: do you are you crazy? You can't do this. This

488
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: is you're you're such an asshole like you this this

489
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: is a crazy idea. You have no idea what you're doing.

490
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: This is not going to work. You know all this

491
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: doubt like this is clearly clearly not You should have known.

492
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: This is you humiliate yourself. You have no idea what

493
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: you're doing. And I get to a payphone because there

494
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: was no cell phones. Then I get to a payphone,

495
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: I call my buddy that I was staying on his

496
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: couch and I said, hey man, and it was like

497
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: happy hour. He goes, how's it going. I go not good.

498
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: I said, Lisk, are you done with work yet? And

499
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: he said, yeah, Let's go have a drink. He'll be okay.

500
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: Tell me what happened. And so I hang up the

501
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: phone and I and this young guy a little bit

502
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: older than me. Back in the nineties, he'd be a

503
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: quintessential actor. He had like a leather jacket and like

504
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: a satchel off to the side and cool hair. And

505
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: he stopped me and he said, you were just in

506
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: blah blah blah studio And I said, yeah, he was.

507
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: I was there. It was a production meeting for we're

508
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: doing a performance. Listen, I'm in that program. The guy

509
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 2: has a cabin an asshole, and he apologized for that.

510
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: He said that he shouldn't talk to you like that.

511
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: Maybe that place isn't the right place for you. But

512
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: if you I when I first came to New York,

513
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: I studied with this coach. If you don't mind, I'll

514
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: give you her name, and it'd be a good place

515
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: for you to start. And don't pretty much like, don't

516
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: listen to that guy. It's gonna be okay. And he

517
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: wrote it down and he gave it to me, and

518
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: that change then that changed that whole negative thing back

519
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: to like, yeah, he's an asshole.

520
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: He's a quick like sequence of emotions in this one day, all.

521
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: In one day, I could have I was ready to quit,

522
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 2: Like I was ready to quit and not move on.

523
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: And I hadn't graduated colleg yet. So I was like,

524
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: that's crazy, this is a crazy idea. This New York's

525
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: never going to work for me too. Oh it can work.

526
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: And that was the moment that I don't know, it

527
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: was like an eight to me. It was like this

528
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: angel like like just came out of nowhere. I was

529
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: walking down it was like a block away. How did

530
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: he find me?

531
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so nice too knowing that that

532
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: all happened in the course of one day, because for

533
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: some people, like and I think there's so everybody goes

534
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: through periods of self doubt, and sometimes those periods of

535
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: self doubt can be months long. It's nice that for you,

536
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: in that one day, you got you know a little

537
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: bit of like a slap in the face and then

538
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: somebody being like, let's lift this guy back up, like

539
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: he wants to get into acting. It's okay, I've been there.

540
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need people to tell you that, like,

541
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: I've been in your shoes before, and if you really

542
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: want this, it's gonna work out.

543
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: I wish I knew who that kid, that guy was,

544
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: that'd be amazing.

545
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking that in my head. I'm like,

546
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: should I ask him if you ever ran into it again?

547
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: No? No, I never saw him again. I never really

548
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: ever saw him.

549
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: He really was an angel.

550
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was well, he was. He definitely like saved

551
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: the day and then went back and you know, had

552
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: a good time. And then literally two months later, I

553
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: was back in New York, you know, testing for a

554
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: job on all my children, and had skipped the whole

555
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: studio process. But you know, I think the fact that

556
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: I didn't have a more traditional education, you know, I

557
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: didn't study theater, and I didn't really I was kind

558
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: of just thrown into it. I worked, work, worked, and

559
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: from job to job to job, and that's how you

560
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: learn a lot too. And a lot of times I

561
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: would be on set and you're sitting around with your

562
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: castmates and one guy went to you know, Carnegie mel

563
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: and the guy went to Yale, another guy's Juilliard, and

564
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: there was a part of me that, and there's probably

565
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: still a part of me. I mean, maybe I'm over

566
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: it now that always thought. Man, I wish I would

567
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: have done that. I wish i'd have done that instead.

568
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: I wish I would really like I went into you know,

569
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: and and spend some time and and and studied a

570
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: more traditional path. And that's where the imposter syndrome starts coming.

571
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Everybody has impossible, Yeah, of course.

572
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: And this is before this years ago. I would talk

573
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: about this like all these guys have like you know,

574
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: big you know, MFAs bfas and they've studied and they've

575
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: done they when they're talking about plays, I have no

576
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: idea what they're talking about, you know, or doing a

577
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: certain role on I don't know what they're talking about.

578
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: But but you're right. So it's the one. It's the

579
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: one once you're on set and as long as you

580
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: can do the job, it's it's the great equalizer, I guess.

581
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing beats experience. You know, you can have all

582
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: the schooling in the world and get on in front

583
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: of a camera and freeze when you were dealing with

584
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome though in those days and sitting next to

585
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: people like that that do have these Juilliard degrees, and

586
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean that is intimidating, Like how did you deal

587
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: with that? Because obviously you went on to have this

588
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: incredible career.

589
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I just again, I'm just I have a big proponent

590
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: of just faked until you feel comfortable, just keep going comfortable,

591
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: just fake it until you just keep moving forward, just

592
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: keep moving forward. And I didn't dwell on it too much,

593
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: but I would. I would sometimes think about it and like, wow,

594
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: you know, and my my youngest uh was you know,

595
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: he did four years, got to do great Michigan and

596
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: studied theater, and you know that we had some conversations

597
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: about like, hey, do I really need to do this?

598
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Can I just go study and like at a smaller

599
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: studio and just start auditioning? And I said you could.

600
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: But my recommendation is that, you know, have those four years,

601
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: take some time. You're still going to be doing the

602
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: young jobs when you get out, like you're not going

603
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: to miss you're not missing anything. You know, get get

604
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: get a good foundation.

605
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: It's nice knowing that your youngest son is is getting

606
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: into acting and is an actor and you were able

607
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: to kind of give him your wisdom of being like

608
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what I really do think like I was

609
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: in your in your shoes one time and I wanted

610
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: to have the education. I didn't have it, so do it.

611
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: But it's some part of me also thinks like, yeah,

612
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: you could probably could have done two years and he'd

613
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: be still doing like he could have jumped. I don't know.

614
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: You never know. You never know.

615
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: What did your parents think, you know at the time

616
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: when you were deciding to become an actor, like were

617
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: they all for it or did they ever have moments

618
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: of doubt?

619
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Like no, no, they were no doubt. They said, you

620
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: have your degree, you did what you did, you got

621
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: your degree, and go do what you want to do.

622
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: And they I think they they they tell me they

623
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: never worried, they knew, they knew one way or another,

624
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: I was going to figure it. If it didn't work out,

625
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I would try something else. But they weren't concerned. They

626
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: didn't try to stop me. They didn't really talk about

627
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: a backup plan or plan B. They just said, you

628
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: got you got your degree, go do what you want

629
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: to do.

630
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: When you were on All My Children for the first time,

631
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: which was considered a sitcom or no a soap opera.

632
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Soap operas have a from what I was reading online,

633
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: there is a pretty rigorous filming schedule, right, Like it's

634
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of comparable to what you guys do now with

635
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Live with kelleam Mark or is it even more intense?

636
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: Man? No, it's sixty pages of dialogue. You do one

637
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: an hour of show a day, where one hour shows

638
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: now at nighttime shows take eight days to ten days

639
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: to shoot.

640
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: We do it in one day every day, so Monday

641
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: through Friday, Friday your.

642
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: Show and sometimes parts of other shows.

643
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: So you got thrown into it pretty quick, and.

644
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: It was the great best school, really good training ground

645
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: on camera work, scene work, learning, how to memorize line lies,

646
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot, a lot of lines. And then

647
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: when you move on tonight time, you're doing like you know,

648
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: you're doing like a few four or five pages, four

649
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: or five pages, six pages, seven pages. That's that's a

650
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: lot usually, you know, I can't think, I can't remember

651
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: how many pages four or five pages a day of

652
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: dialogue or maybe six six pages would be typical, but

653
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: not forty you know, sometimes I had forty pages of dialogue.

654
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: So you know, once you go from that to that,

655
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: you're like or if they now and then like we're

656
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: gonna change this scene. We're gonna change these lines. Is

657
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: that okay? I'm like, yeah, please, I can. I can

658
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: look at it and I can do it. Yeah.

659
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: You get your reps in, you become a pro. What

660
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: do you feel like in those in those early years

661
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: that were filming the show, Like what did you have

662
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: to learn and have to learn quick? Was it memorizing

663
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: the lines?

664
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: And yeah?

665
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Maybe what else I.

666
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Would say if all those fails, just know your stuff

667
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: frontwards and backwards, and it.

668
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Teaches you how to show up, to have to go

669
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: to something Monday through Friday. It's kind of an I

670
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: think because you had peers, you know, like your friend

671
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame that are working downtown in Manhattan. It's

672
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: it's a good thing.

673
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: I slept on that couch really for the first six

674
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: months after I.

675
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Got that job and you were dating Kelly.

676
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember, I slept next to a turtle. There

677
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: was a turtle in a little what do you call

678
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: it a little glass?

679
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a yes, yeah, whatever cage situation.

680
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was on that couch because every twelve

681
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: weeks they can decide not to pick up your option,

682
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: so you can have like a year or two year deal.

683
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: But every twelve weeks they could say, eh, we're the stories,

684
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna move this story in a different or they're

685
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna replace you. So I was so I was so

686
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: new and so green, and I was not. I didn't

687
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: think I was good. So I was like, well, they're gonna,

688
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: They're definitely gonna, They're gonna, They're gonna find out. I

689
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: have no idea what I'm doing, and I wasn't until

690
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: I felt comfortable. It took six months for me, six

691
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: months for me to feel comfortable on that show, and

692
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: I finally got my own apartment, I got a lease.

693
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I think I'm here for you.

694
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Kelly's like, finally, this guy's not on the couch anymore.

695
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit in the beginning

696
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: of the interview. You touched on it, but let's dive

697
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: into how you and Kelly met, because it is like

698
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: the craziest love story I think I've ever heard.

699
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: I flew in for the screen test. They flew me

700
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: in from New York to screen test, and I was

701
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: rehearsing the day before and she walked in to the

702
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: rehearsal hall where there's like coffee machines, like you know,

703
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: big tubs of coffee and still bagels and stuff. It's

704
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: where they did, you know, people would hang out. And

705
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: I was just kind of rehearsing there with with somebody

706
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: from casting. They're like, you know, and they were just

707
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: showing me around. So I kind of had some familiarity

708
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: with where I was going to be doing the next day.

709
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: And she walked in and we met, we said hello,

710
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: I said hi, and she said she was great. And

711
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: then I the next day or maybe over the weekend.

712
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: After the weekend, I read with her for the screen

713
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: test and she was great. And it was me and

714
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of other guys. I you know, people asked me,

715
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: was it love at first sight? I got to tell

716
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: you that I was so out of my element, and

717
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: I was twenty three years old. And the idea of

718
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: being like on the make during like an an audition,

719
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: like the idea of me saying, oh, this girl is interesting,

720
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: I should probably try to get her phone number, or

721
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm blown away. I was so out

722
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: of my element. I was surviving, and so none of

723
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: those things were even like a reality for me. It

724
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: wasn't even part of like like I can't think about anything.

725
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: No, you were in boy world and you were just

726
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: trying to make it work in New York. But I

727
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: love Kelly's version of it, where she was like, I

728
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: knew I was going to marry him the moment I

729
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: saw him.

730
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: That's correct, that was her version, Yeah, And I was like, no,

731
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to leave Tampa. I'm trying to get

732
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: this job and come to New York and do the

733
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: thing that I love and that I want to do.

734
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: You know what, though, what I love about Kelly's version

735
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: of it is she's a Jersey girl, and us Jersey

736
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: girls know what we want, and she was like, I

737
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: saw Mark and that was it. I knew he was

738
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: my person now.

739
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Once I got the gig and we were working together

740
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: and I kind of relaxed into the job a little

741
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: bit and I felt more secure, and then we spent

742
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: so much time together and then I was smitten. I

743
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: was really into smitten.

744
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: And you guys knew pretty quickly. You guys got married

745
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: pretty soon after, right, was it a year or later?

746
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: Half a year and a half later, it's quick. Yeah.

747
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: The beauty of how you guys met and now, in

748
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: terms of what you guys do. Now you guys met

749
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: working together, and now you're this power couple that I

750
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: think we were talking about this before, but you're one

751
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: of one of the first couples to host a live

752
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: show to show yeah, a talk show, I guess.

753
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's wild, it's wild. And this this iteration

754
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: is so much easier. I would say, it's a piece

755
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: of cake compared to doing twelve hours on a on

756
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: a soap opera and dramatic storylines and just getting married

757
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: and like really, you know, like navigating through that whole

758
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: thing was wild. Having a kid, our first kid. We

759
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: were twenty five years old, twenty six years old.

760
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Well, you guys got married young.

761
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Twenty five, had a kid at twenty six, and we

762
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: were just you know, just moving forward. So now the

763
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: beauty of us working together at this stage, all three

764
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: kids are done with college, they're out of the house,

765
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: and you know the past.

766
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: They smile.

767
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also.

768
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm young, we're in the prime in our

769
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: christ through out of the house.

770
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: You know how to get cut?

771
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: Came is good?

772
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: Do you give me fifteen days? I know how to

773
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: get cut?

774
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: You know what that is? Fifteen days is very impressive.

775
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: We need like I'm getting married in September, we need

776
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: like the bridal breakdown on fifteen days.

777
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: No, but I think now that we I don't know,

778
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: it feels like we have had this whole like life

779
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: and we're back to working together. It's I really, I'm

780
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: super grateful and I probably appreciate it more now than

781
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: I did when we were going through life in the beginning. Yeah.

782
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a cool chapter to be in,

783
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: and you guys do such a good job together. What

784
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I think is so impressive too about those early years

785
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: is not only were you managing this new career and

786
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: learning how to you know, do your job and do

787
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: it great, but you were also a first time parent

788
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: and you know, a first time husband, right, Like this

789
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: is your first time being married. So you guys are

790
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: managing you know, work while also real life and a

791
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of life. Right, It's not just

792
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: like you're in your twenties and living for yourself. You

793
00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: had a whole family.

794
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: Our son now who's twenty eighth night. Yeah, I grew

795
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: up like this is I'm pretty much the third person

796
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: in your relationship and like, what are you talking about, Michael?

797
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: He goes we grew up together.

798
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

799
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we didn't grow up together, but I see

800
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: how you feel like we were young when we had you,

801
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: and you probably deserve better.

802
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: No, it's so cool having young parents. Over the years,

803
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: you've done so many different types of acting gigs. We

804
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: should talk a little bit about Riverdale because Riverdale was

805
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: Was that the first time you played a villain in

806
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: a show?

807
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: Let's see a villain villain? Yeah? No, I think that was.

808
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: I was starting to veer because initially it was all

809
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: good guys, and then later on it started each role

810
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: I got started veering towards a little more complicated guys, like, wow,

811
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: this guy is kind of a jerk. This is awesome.

812
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: And so I think the he hire a lodge on

813
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Riverdale I would say was the pinnacle of that moot.

814
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: That trajectory for sure.

815
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: What is it like going into that kind of a role, Like,

816
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: was that exciting?

817
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: After so much fun?

818
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: It's fun.

819
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: It's so fun because you have license to explore all

820
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: these things that you would never you know, because playing

821
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: the good guy and playing the hero of something is awesome.

822
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: That's great, you know, you get to be the hero.

823
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: But it's also it can be a little one dimensional

824
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: or you know, two dimensional. You know, playing a bad

825
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: guy you get to be sometimes sometimes they people love

826
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: you and they hate and they hate to love you,

827
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: and they you know, they love to hate you, and

828
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes they understand. Oh, now I get

829
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: why he's doing this, and then just gives you more

830
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: license to do that. No, I think it's I think

831
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: it's a lot more fun.

832
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the fun thing about Riverdale too was Kelly

833
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: started in a scene, right and your son, So you

834
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: guys got to even work together.

835
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: Then to have my son Michael, you know, it's funny.

836
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: He was he was interning in Los Angeles at the time,

837
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: and I was doing I think a comic con in

838
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: San Diego. I think we were doing a comic con.

839
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: And Roberto, I think this is maybe I'm getting this wrong,

840
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: but this is all seems kind of like the wrong.

841
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: The right time, he said, hey, listen, we're going to

842
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: do this flashback episode where we have a young Hireum,

843
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: your son's not it. It's too bad your son's not it.

844
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: As is not an actor because he looks just like you.

845
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: I said, well, he has a sad card because he

846
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: did some voice over work as a young kid does.

847
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, he has a sad card and I'm

848
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: like yeah. He said, well you think he would audition

849
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: for it? I said, let me ask him, and so

850
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: I called him. I said, Michael, do you want to

851
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: do you an audition for to play younger me for Ribello?

852
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: He said, well, I'm in Los Angeles. I'm is it

853
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: is the audition. I said, just down the road. And

854
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: so he went and he calls me. He said, Dad,

855
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: all the guys here that are reading for this part

856
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: look just like you. I go, that's the point, Michael,

857
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: that's but I think you probably like me. Yeah, you

858
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: look the most like me. And he got the job,

859
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: and he had in the first time he did it

860
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: was just a small, little, you know, group scenes and

861
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: it was kind of a small role. And then they

862
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: did the higher origin story where they asked him to

863
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: come back and he my god, he got to kiss

864
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: the girl, beat up the bully, you know, fight with

865
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: his dad.

866
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: You know.

867
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: He had the whole hero's trajectory in one episode. So

868
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: he had like a career in one episode. And it

869
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: was I think for me on that show. I had

870
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: a lot of highlights on that show. For me. That

871
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: was the highlight to be able to work with my son.

872
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: And on the days that we didn't work together, I

873
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: would sometimes come and watch and he wouldn't know I'm there.

874
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: I was there. I'd be way way way in the

875
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: back and I was And we didn't have scenes together.

876
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: I would just sit there and watch on the little camera,

877
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: you know in video village, and he had no idea

878
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: and I was just like, wow, I'm so proud of him.

879
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: He did such a good job. A highlight for me

880
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: to have that that we we will always share that together.

881
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: And you guys were filming in Canada, right Vancouver, Vancouver.

882
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: That was the great part of Also, Kelly and I'd

883
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: be able to work together now for seven years, or

884
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: for eight years, I was either in a different state,

885
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: different city, or a different country working and that's a

886
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: lot of time. Time, it's a lot of time, and

887
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: I think that the opportunity to do what we do now,

888
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm super grateful that we get to

889
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: spend this chapter together.

890
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like the thing too about like

891
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: working a part, it's hard, but at the same time

892
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: it makes you value being together so much more, which

893
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: kind of makes it nice. So now that you guys

894
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: are at this point where you're working together, it is amazing.

895
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: I was gone so long. I would come back and

896
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: she Kelly had took my side of the bed and said,

897
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: you realize this is She said, this is not She said, no,

898
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: you don't live here. You live in Canada. Oh my god,

899
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: you're in Canada.

900
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: She's like, it's colder on the side of the bed.

901
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm officially is that.

902
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: That's right. The air conditioning would hit that side and

903
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: she didn't like that, so she got on the other side.

904
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: And plus it's closer to the door so she can

905
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: get up to go to work in the morning. And

906
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: I just I had to come to terms with it.

907
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, she's right, I don't. I don't this

908
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: is I hear so you know so little that I'm

909
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: losing my side of the bed. So it's nice and

910
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: I got she's wait, she still has the side of

911
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: the bed. Now, she's still She kept it.

912
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm currently in a situation where I'm partitioning for the

913
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: other side of the bed because it's closer to the

914
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: AC and I like being cold.

915
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

916
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, girls, girls are like extremes, Like I like a

917
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: piping hot shower and a really cold room to sleep.

918
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: In Kelly's piping hot shower, and if the AC was

919
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: never on, she'd be happy.

920
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before we get into hosting, going from acting

921
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: to hosting, let's touch on this really quick. What was

922
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: the most challenging role for you to play as an

923
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: actor and how did it help you grow?

924
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: I think they were all. I mean, I would say

925
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: that they were all pretty challenging.

926
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: Maybe what's one that like taught you the most? And

927
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: it could be the soap opera where you're folding.

928
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: I think the one I want, the one where I

929
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: learned the most, I think would probably be the show

930
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: I did Alpha House. There was two. I did two

931
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: shows back to back. I did Alpha House, and I

932
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: got to work with some great actors, John Goodman being

933
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: one of them, and I learned so much about just

934
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 2: you know. And I would watch him do these scenes

935
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: and all the other guys do the scenes. But every

936
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: time he did a take, it'd be a little bit

937
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: different than than the one before. He'd always was toying

938
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: with it, and I was like, oh, I should do that.

939
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: I should really like, Okay, I've got my way of

940
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: doing this, and maybe play maybe gave a few different

941
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: like in every time it was different and so so

942
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: so uh interesting. And then I did another show after

943
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: that called Pitch, where it was a It was again

944
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: a great cast, great writing, and I learned a lot.

945
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: I everybody brought their a game every single day, all

946
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: the actors. It was a competitive situation, but the writing

947
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: was so good that that everybody was just good and

948
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: everybody was really like prepared and they were trying to

949
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: like just it felt it felt like that, and I'm

950
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: you know, and again, let's see, I would say those

951
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: two I learned, I learned. I learned a lot. And

952
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 2: obviously Riverdale, you know, I learned how to do twenty

953
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: two episodes a year. That was a lot for for

954
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: a few for four years, five years, I forget how

955
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: many years I was on that show. That was. That

956
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: was a long I learned, I learned. I definitely learned

957
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: a lot there as well.

958
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a commonality with acting too, is like,

959
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, because you're surrounded by some of the best

960
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: actors out there, is like the consistent or commonality amongst

961
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: them that you know, everybody consistently shows up and tries

962
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: their best, Like, do you think that's what makes them great.

963
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: What is kind of the key thread that you've found

964
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: with people?

965
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: I would definitely say that. I would say that just

966
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: showing up and doing and being prepared and the one

967
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: coming out with the really really really good ones. I

968
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: often saw how kind they were to everybody and and

969
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: really like wow, really just you know, professional on set,

970
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 2: professional offset And I feel like sometimes it's the people

971
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: that are the most comfortable with themselves.

972
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Yes, and the most confident with themselves, Like if you

973
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: do the work, it's easier to show up and just

974
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: be a good person.

975
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're not trying to prove anything, and they're

976
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: so normal. And I've been lucky enough to work with

977
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: a lot of really kind people.

978
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: Let's talk about going from acting to hosting. Also, you

979
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: stepped into Ryan seacrest shoes right in a way. What

980
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: was it like getting going into that position?

981
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: Like, and you know, I would say, since I had

982
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: subbed in, Yeah, I subbed in. I think they said

983
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 2: it was like over one hundred times, So I knew.

984
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew, like I knew what this job

985
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: was about. But there was a level of I guess

986
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: weight when I when I signed on to be the

987
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: full time replacement and her partner and her co host.

988
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Then it felt it felt different. It felt like I

989
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: had a huge responsibility. I didn't want to ruin. There's

990
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: something that she's been a big part of, you know,

991
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: and and you know, arguably built over the last twenty

992
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: four years, you know, took part of and also made

993
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: it her own. I didn't want to be responsible for

994
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: taking that show off the air. What if I sucked?

995
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: What if I did? You know, what if I did something?

996
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: What if I what if it didn't work? You know,

997
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 2: we're married, Like, this is not good.

998
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: This is now when you came in and gave it,

999
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: you're all and guys, I have to shout out Mark

1000
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: really quick because you started in twenty twenty three. By

1001
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, you won an Emmy for what is

1002
00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: it the Best Daytime?

1003
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah we were best Hosting. Yeah we did. We We

1004
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: got lucky. That's she's so good. I mean, she's one.

1005
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how much she's won so many times.

1006
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: I think she you know, whatever doubts I had, she said, no, no,

1007
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: this that people love this and you know when when

1008
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: and I will I will say when. They when they

1009
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: initially brought the idea to us, We thought it was

1010
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: a really bad idea. I thought it was a horrible

1011
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: this is bad. You like it because I fill in

1012
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: every now and then and people dig it and it's

1013
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: funny and we have a great we have a great relationship.

1014
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: And you guys are self deprecating though, yeah, well, because

1015
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: it was a great idea and you guys are so

1016
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: good together.

1017
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: But but then we thought, well, what if every day

1018
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: that people will get tired of this? And what if

1019
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: it's this is and what if it if God God forbid,

1020
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: if it affects our marriage and you know, and you know,

1021
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: but then when we sat with it for a few

1022
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: weeks or a month or two months or how long,

1023
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: the decision process was like, you know what again, you know,

1024
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: I haven't been home for seven years. I'd love to

1025
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: be home. We can do this, you know. We made

1026
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: the pros and cons list, and we said, we've never

1027
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: shied away from doing anything. Ever. We've like every decision

1028
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: we've made was pretty ballsy, from eloping to you know,

1029
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: we've always kind of like gone for it. I said,

1030
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: let's go for it and see what happens. And it's

1031
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: been it's probably been the fastest two years of.

1032
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: My life going from acting to hosting. We talked about

1033
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: it on the run, but it's very different. What would

1034
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: you say was like the biggest challenge for you that

1035
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: you had to.

1036
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: The biggest challenge was looking straight into the camera and talking,

1037
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: because as an actor you don't do that. Have rarely,

1038
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: rarely Sometimes they say look down the barrel and like,

1039
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: but that's rarely. Do you break, do you go? Do

1040
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: you look directly into the camera. It's almost never, So

1041
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: that was a really big challenge. Also, I do this

1042
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: thing which is a cut in in the like at

1043
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: eight twenty eight in the morning, I do a quick

1044
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: twenty seconds on the ABC local news in New York

1045
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: City and they say, Hey, Mark, what's gonna Who's coming

1046
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: on the show today? I said, well, today we have

1047
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and we have John Goodman, and we

1048
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: have this person, and we have this person and then

1049
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: we have the inbox all right, and from and still

1050
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: to this day, me being live on the local news

1051
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: in New York freaks me out.

1052
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: It is freaky.

1053
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know why it freaks me out.

1054
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's because we grow up watching

1055
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: the news, right, and the idea that like so many

1056
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: people are in their house is watching the news like

1057
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: it's kind of something that's always on.

1058
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: And I want to be live on national TV like

1059
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: the next in thirty minutes, and that does not freak

1060
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: me out at all, But being on the local news

1061
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: is every day I'm like, oh gosh, I'm nervous. What

1062
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: if I say something stupid?

1063
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to mess it up. You don't

1064
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: want to be one of those.

1065
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm literally reading off a teleprompter looking into a camera,

1066
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: and that's another thing reading, that's an adjustment off the time.

1067
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a good reader. Neither am I definitely undiagnosed learning.

1068
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: Just like the words jump around all over the place.

1069
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I see things, aren't you know? I'm

1070
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: like what that happens a lot. So that's a skill

1071
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: that I've had to get used to.

1072
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, being word personally funny.

1073
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a producer her name is Shuley, and she's

1074
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: next to the camera when I'm reading off the teleprompter,

1075
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: and sometimes I say the craziest stuff and she and

1076
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: she all of a sudden she'll turn on she go

1077
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: because she knows what's written there, and she'll look at

1078
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: me like, what are you doing?

1079
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: She's like, and you just said it so confidently.

1080
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: And then we'll go to commercial and she's like, what

1081
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: what was that?

1082
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: But those miss hops, you got to make it a

1083
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: little bit youse sometimes, you know, Oh for sure. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have one question for you that I just have

1085
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: to ask because I've been watching Kelly for years. I

1086
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: loved watching her with Ryan. I love watching her with you.

1087
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: You're her partner, so you know her better than anybody.

1088
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: She on camera is just she's so funny, She so quick,

1089
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: She's got that Jersey energy in the best way. Is

1090
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Kelly as funny off camera as she is on Hilarious?

1091
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: She is so funny.

1092
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's funny. I mean she's is she funny?

1093
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Like living with Kelly, I feel like it is the

1094
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: funniest thing.

1095
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: She's She's super super I mean, listen, it's not like

1096
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: she's making a joke every second. She's very serious and

1097
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: she reads a lot, and she talks about heady things

1098
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: and she does. She's very curious and she's whip smart,

1099
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: and so we have a lot of those conversations. I

1100
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: will say that when I go to a dinner party

1101
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: or I know, I know, I'm gonna have like the

1102
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: funniest partner at the dinner party. Like she is. She's

1103
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: so such a good storyteller.

1104
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: And she's engaging with everybody.

1105
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: Everybody. Yeah, and she'll say, Mark, tell that story, and

1106
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: I know that I'll get the first two sentences out

1107
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: and then she'll take over, and I'm like, all right,

1108
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: I'm not telling the story anymore. You tell the story now.

1109
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: But we we we kind of we you know, we

1110
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: play off each other really really well. And I will say,

1111
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: what you see, what you see on the show is

1112
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: what you get with her. She's and I think America

1113
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: has a pretty good BS detector.

1114
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Well I can say that too. Being with you, it's

1115
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: so clear that you guys are it just.

1116
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: It makes sense.

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're live on television, you can't really

1118
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: fake it. So no, but you guys are amazing, and

1119
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you deserve all the kudos. Let's talk

1120
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: a little bit about what's going on in your life

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00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: outside of Live with Kelly and Mark. You guys are

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00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: producing a documentary together. It's going to be one of

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00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: the first times we're seeing your family together on camera.

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00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: Comes out July twenty ninth on.

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00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: ESPN, ESPN. Yeah, we bought We bought a piece of

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00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: a soccer club two and a half years ago, three

1127
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: years ago, and the idea was to give back this

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00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: town their team that they had lost because the previous

1129
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: ownership went bankrupt and the league, the federation sent this

1130
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: team down to the fifth division, so they were in

1131
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: danger of losing their soccer club. So that was like

1132
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: and I was asked to get involved, and do you

1133
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: want to be part of this? I said, this is

1134
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: such a great story. I love this. Let's give this

1135
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: city back their soccer team and we'll try to win.

1136
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: And we won, and then we won again, and then

1137
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: we made it back to where they were before they

1138
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: were they defaulted. And during that time I got the sense,

1139
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: this is such a good underdog story. And you know,

1140
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: Kelly and I we had no connections on Hollywood. We

1141
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, our parents didn't know anybody at all. We

1142
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: came in this as underdogs, and I felt sort of

1143
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: kind of akin to this story. It made sense in

1144
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: our brand. And we've had to work really, really really

1145
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: hard for everything that we've done, and we've had great,

1146
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: you know, great fortune and have been blessed, but we've

1147
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: always had to work really, really, really hard. So we

1148
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: felt the connection to this project. And you know, the

1149
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: idea of making a follow doc capturing this side of us,

1150
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, owning this team was It started right when

1151
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: we bought the team and we started developing the idea

1152
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: and shooting some some footage to take to some some

1153
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, of the buyers, and luckily we convinced ESPN,

1154
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: you know, to have a show on ESPN. As a guy,

1155
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 2: for me, that's amazing.

1156
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: And as a soccer fan, as.

1157
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: A soccer fan, we produced a documentary for them. I

1158
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: want to say probably about ten or eleven years ago,

1159
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 2: maybe longer. It was about a high school wrestling team

1160
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: in Florida. Yeah, it was called the Streak and it

1161
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: was about the longest winning streak in the history of

1162
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: high school sports was held by this team. And how

1163
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: did I know the story. I went to that high

1164
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: school in Florida, and so we went back and we followed,

1165
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: and we took it to ESPN and we said, we

1166
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: should follow this team. I think this is going to

1167
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: end next year. We should we should watch it. If

1168
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: a tree falls in the woods and nobody sees a fall,

1169
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: did it really fall? And so they said let's do it,

1170
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: and so we had it. We had a relationship with you.

1171
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd love so not your first time.

1172
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: Doing it, but it's been a long time. It's been

1173
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: a really really long time, and I love I love sports,

1174
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: and I think it's you know, sports docks are metaphor

1175
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: for life. They kind of has everything, as you know.

1176
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: And I'm so excited that I can't believe we pulled

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: it off, that we got people to say yes. And

1178
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: you're right. We would never do a reality show, my

1179
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: wife and I we we've been asked to do and

1180
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: we're like, we'd never do that, but under this content,

1181
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: in this context, for this subject matter, it makes sense.

1182
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's usually it's just Kelly and

1183
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: I at home now all the kids are gone. They

1184
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: would never agree to do it.

1185
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: Are the kids in it?

1186
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: Lola does come in and out because she's a big

1187
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: football fan, so she flew in from London.

1188
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: And does she live in London.

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00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: She lives in London. London loves it and she flew in.

1190
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the doc. It follows our first season

1191
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: back in Sedia chi Was, which is the third division

1192
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: of Italian soccer. It was a rollercoaster year. And you know,

1193
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: as you know, in European sports, almost all the sports

1194
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of, there's relegation and promotion, so you

1195
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: you're always at the risk of being demoted to a

1196
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: lower division, which is catastrophic in many cases. So there's

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: that that that that that European sports has, unlike here

1198
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: domestically in the United States, you know, the pro sports.

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: I guess you can get sold to another team or whatever,

1200
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: but you're not going to a lower division. There's not

1201
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: there's not that level of peril. So actually, I think

1202
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: which makes European European football that much more interesting.

1203
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's so special for you too,

1204
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: as somebody that grew up for a chunk of your

1205
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: life in Italy. You've got Italian roots, right Bengo card No,

1206
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 1: and now you are a co owner of a team.

1207
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing and I love the underdog story.

1208
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I think so many people can relate to that. I

1209
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: also love knowing that you and Kelly, you know, we

1210
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: didn't really but yeah, you didn't come from a family

1211
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: that had actors and performers, and you made it happen

1212
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: for yourself. And it's amazing knowing that Kelly did the same.

1213
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: It's why you guys make such a good partnership. What

1214
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: are you most excited for people to see in the documentary?

1215
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: I would I can't wait for you to see Kelly

1216
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: Rippa curse so much when I take her to the

1217
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: first soccer we'd been. We'd own this team for a

1218
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: couple of years before she actually went over there, and

1219
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: so I would go a lot. And so during the

1220
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: season while we were shooting, we obviously she came over

1221
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: this time as well, and I got to take her

1222
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: to her first game. And it was a big rivalry game.

1223
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: And we're in the stadium and the fans and the

1224
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: other team are throwing like little pieces of dynamite on

1225
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: our field boom, and then our fans are replying and

1226
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: the curse words and insults, and she says, this is

1227
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: just like going to a Philadelphia Eagles game. This is amazing.

1228
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: It is that. And and Kelly, for me is are

1229
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: for my money. Is one of the most competitive people

1230
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: I know. It doesn't show she's so Jersey. She's so competitive.

1231
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: And so I think seeing us experience Italy with this team,

1232
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: why we're doing it. It's more of like a social

1233
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: social movement, social project for this for this city, to

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01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: give them back something that they loved. And seeing us

1235
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: on you know, seeing us at home a little bit too.

1236
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: I think people will will appreciate that.

1237
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: Right. Well, the show is called Running with the Wolves.

1238
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: It premieres July twenty ninth, and there's two other episodes

1239
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: that follow. You said that Kelly's really competitive in the

1240
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Consoila household. Is our board games competitive?

1241
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's playing maj On right.

1242
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a hard game.

1243
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: It's it's not a board game, but it's a game.

1244
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: So I'm learning. I'm gonna have to learn. I don't

1245
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: think I have a choice. But she's super competitive.

1246
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Well, this has been so fun. It's clear that in

1247
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: all the chapters of your life, movement has, you know,

1248
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: not just been a tool, but it really has been

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01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: an anchor for you. So thank you, so much, Thank you.

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01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: This is great.

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: If you guys are enjoying Post Run High, please be

1252
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,720
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1253
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1254
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:24,960
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