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Speaker 1: clearing the air around you falling out of a boat,

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Speaker 1: and I want to like, here's the thing. We're at

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Speaker 1: our Mediater Experiences event in uh Cypress Cove Marina in Venice, Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: and we're on a day when we got a new

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Speaker 1: group coming in today and an old group going so

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Speaker 1: it's a day off. Yesterday, I was fishing with my group,

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Speaker 1: my assignees. One is in waste management, one is a butcher,

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Speaker 1: and one was a lawyer, and I accidentally fell out

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Speaker 1: of the boat, which which I haven't done in my

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Speaker 1: adult life fallen out of a boat, and nobody else

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Speaker 1: on this trip has either no one's fallen out of

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Speaker 1: the boat. I have never like I've fallen out of

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Speaker 1: boats that capsized, but you can't really help that. I've

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Speaker 1: never fallen out of a fine boat I have as

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Speaker 1: an adult. I'm gonna tell what happened, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell how I've how I dealt with it in the moment,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell how I'm dealing with it now.

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Speaker 1: So I caught a red fish that was outside of

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Speaker 1: the slot limit, red drum, I'll point out. And everybody

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Speaker 1: else that tells the story and laughs about it that

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Speaker 2: That it's not important the biggest fish.

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Speaker 3: Of the day.

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Speaker 1: And I was in the bow of the boat and

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Speaker 1: it was kind of high up, and I took a

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Speaker 3: The back of the boat.

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Speaker 1: Because you know the whole like keeping your fish wet.

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Speaker 1: This fish is getting dried off at this point, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, I want to take took a photo

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Speaker 1: of it, and I'm like, I know, it's like all naughty.

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Speaker 3: You're not supposed to take photos.

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Speaker 1: It's fine to impale them on the hook, but you're

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Speaker 4: So no, I think that's only from trout. Oh really,

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Speaker 4: I think these fish are hardy. These fish can like

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Speaker 1: He sure thought so this fish. But my thing was

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Speaker 1: I was going to do the resuscitation move. But I'm

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Speaker 1: high up. The bow is at a little higher than

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Speaker 1: I have carpal tunnel syndrome, which this battle with this

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Speaker 1: fish of exceptional size qualifiers. Were you in a wavy spot? No, okay,

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Speaker 5: Wait, you were thinking about your surgery.

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Speaker 1: It's bugging the hell out of me right now. It's

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Speaker 1: related to composing on a computer. But the fish fight

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Speaker 1: really bothered it because everything bothers it when it's inflamed.

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Speaker 1: This is all on my mind, and I'm reaching, and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, my god, that water is far

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Speaker 6: I'm are you are you crouded?

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Speaker 1: As it started to get really close.

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Speaker 6: Are you want a squat? Are you on your knees?

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Speaker 3: I can't recall I was not on my knees. I don't.

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Speaker 6: You thought you could die?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking like, wow, this is quite a reach

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Speaker 3: And then I was just in the water head first.

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Speaker 1: How deep was But I kind of did like like

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Speaker 1: I just kind of did. It was like a barrel roll.

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Speaker 1: So you went like show as over teakettle? You call

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Speaker 6: How deep was the water?

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Speaker 3: We didn't hit the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I was out so fast my hat and sunglasses are

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Speaker 7: In case there was any question, huh.

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Speaker 1: So the problem is I'm with all strangers. I'm with

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Speaker 1: a fishing guy and three strangers. So how do you do?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like save faith? Yeah, I just got right back to fishing,

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Speaker 1: because what are you gonna do? Like, did anyone tell

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Speaker 3: Everybody talked about it. It was commented on.

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Speaker 1: I commented on it, but I wasn't like I didn't

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna I just got right back up and fished.

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Speaker 6: No, nothing was wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you would almost die they like stop and think

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Speaker 1: how would you act? You're like, I haven't done anything wrong,

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Speaker 3: Like what would you act like?

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Speaker 1: You know, like trying to come in and out of

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Speaker 1: Mexico with guns? You're sort of like, I'm gonna act

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Speaker 1: you know normal, Steve, after you did that, so back

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Speaker 3: I don't want to act like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like this happens all the time, or.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to act like like I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's on you. Yeah, I had a hard time. I tried.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to get in the mind frame of

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Speaker 1: It was just it was like, it's a very hard.

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Speaker 1: How'd you feel the boat handled it? They did great,

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Speaker 8: I was told, I don't think you understand the gravity

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Speaker 7: I don't think there hasn't hit yet. No, no, no, there has.

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Speaker 8: Imagine like the most salacious like rumor, like the most

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Speaker 8: juicy rumor out there, when Steve Ranella falls into the

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Speaker 8: water off of a redfish boat trying to release that

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Speaker 8: spreads in a way you can't imagine. It was like

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Speaker 8: a wave of washing across the bayou of people who

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Speaker 5: No, I no, yeah, I saw this radio chatter and

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Speaker 5: then it's probably on the Reddit channel, right.

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Speaker 1: I told my wife, and my wife immediately attributed it

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Speaker 1: to aging, which is like, come on, come on, that's

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Speaker 1: the worst thing to hear. Yeah, she's like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there was a secret photo shown around. And I

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Speaker 9: also had heard people debating whether or not the real

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Speaker 9: issue here was your technique. I heard multip people say

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Speaker 9: he shouldn't have tried to put in the water and

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Speaker 9: resuscitate it. You're just supposed to torpedo the redfish.

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Speaker 5: That's the guys that I didn't even need to debate

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Speaker 1: It was a technique problem, supposedly, Yeah, you're being too nice.

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Speaker 1: How do you guys know I didn't fall in on.

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Speaker 1: Purpose is to give people something to chat about. Achieve

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Speaker 1: that Bonnie Rate song. Let's give him something to talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: talk about love. Half a finger wrote in to say this, Oh,

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Speaker 1: introduce yourselves. That's in the notes.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, we're here, Seth Morris Williams and me on

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Speaker 4: our on our day off at Meat Eater experiences. Not

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Speaker 4: though we just said goodbye to a group, we got

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Speaker 4: another group coming in in like three hours and we're podcasting.

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Speaker 3: In the hospitality industry, they called the turnover day.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, Before you guys see the answer, I want

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Speaker 1: to go around the room. Pry on or pre on mark.

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Speaker 7: M hm, Prian seth on on.

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Speaker 6: Prion, just to make it even both.

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Speaker 3: It comes from it's hot. Everybody uses something different.

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Speaker 1: I was asking someone what you're supposed to say, and

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Speaker 1: I'll point out one of my favorite stories. As I

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Speaker 1: was getting my hearing check. This is another old thing,

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Speaker 1: like the older you get, the more you get tonitis.

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Speaker 1: My doctor said tenadus and I said, is that how

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Speaker 1: you say it. Uh. Heffelfinger said, here we have a

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Speaker 1: very definite answer. Stanley Preussinger discovered the agent that causes

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Speaker 1: He suggested the word prion to describe this newly discovered

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Speaker 1: the word clarified that he pronounces it prion. I hard

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Speaker 1: where's this thing? Durkin?

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Speaker 3: Dirkin just got scolded by Uncle Ted Nugent. Oh boy, wow.

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Speaker 1: Durkin wrote an article, Uh, Pat Dirkin the last of

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Speaker 1: the Uh. He's many things, but one of the hats

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Speaker 1: he wears He's He's a part of a dying breed

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Speaker 1: of regional outdoor columness. Someone I was lamenting the America's

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Speaker 1: who mine was as a kid that I always read

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Speaker 1: and he would every you know, he'd ice fishing reports,

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Speaker 1: Miskegan Chronicle, the Outdoor section. He'd be like, Hey, the

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Speaker 3: Whatever. Bob Butts I.

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Speaker 1: Think was his name, tough one, tough one, not as

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Speaker 3: Is that fellow by the last.

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Speaker 1: Name of Schmuck?

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Speaker 7: Yikes?

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Speaker 1: Great guy?

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Speaker 3: Though Uh, I didn't bring that up.

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Speaker 6: What did Pat get scolded?

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Speaker 1: For Oh yeah, Pat wrote an article he pulled up.

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Speaker 1: Pat wrote an article it's not for all to talk

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Speaker 1: about this Leon Musk character. This Uh oh no, it's

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Speaker 1: working now Leon. I'll only say that because I just

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Speaker 1: And see because that is a thing that would speak

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Speaker 3: Like a friend of mine in Michigan they.

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Speaker 1: Just lost fifty there's piles of twenty and thirty dead

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Speaker 3: That's a age thing.

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Speaker 6: I think you just made a good point.

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Speaker 1: I could just wrap it up. People might forget what

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Speaker 1: they get chopped up by combines, they just die. So

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Speaker 5: What about those areas where there's high CWD don't they

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Speaker 5: So your deer numbers could be down because people are

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Speaker 5: just shooting a lot more deer, Yeah, it'd be, But.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know if that, if that's actually happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last year Michigan's Apartment of Natural Resources sent out

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Speaker 9: so deer harvest. Harvest continues to go down, but population

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Speaker 9: continues to go up. And then yeah, it's a problem.

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Speaker 9: They came out again this year and all sorts of

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Speaker 9: They've started to tweak regulations. They're trying to find ways

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Speaker 9: Starting next year, the youth season no longer will be

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Speaker 9: always been an early antlers season. There's going to be

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Speaker 6: Oh gosh, really works, but nobody likes it.

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Speaker 9: It was debated, there was that was one of the

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if it comes up again. There's

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Speaker 9: so they're doing what they can, but it's really hard

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Speaker 1: And then people continue to report harder time finding hunting spots,

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Speaker 8: We attribute that partially to urban sprawl and things like that,

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Speaker 8: You know, it's cyclical and right now the method is

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Speaker 7: Off my property.

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Speaker 8: The priority is bucks first, and so you don't have

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Speaker 8: their experience is declining because they're pushed on to public.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's the guys we saw in Oklahoma and

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Speaker 8: they don't have They're not the ones out there in

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's be clear, we are all part of that.

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Speaker 9: You've got private land, you own, you do the same

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Speaker 9: thing giannis as private land, he hunts, I have stuff.

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Speaker 2: So we're not all part of it.

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Speaker 7: I don't do that.

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Speaker 9: it's rather than demonizing someone who hunts private land, who's

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Speaker 9: demonizing anybody. I don't think we're demonizing.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like a it's a are you Are

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Speaker 1: you contesting that what we're saying is accurate. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying the less like serious, very serious deer hunters

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Speaker 3: Early nineties for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure, when it used to have a can I

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Speaker 1: this is like a basic fact of reality now. And

436
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: so I just see a lot of people that love

437
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: to complain about it. Yes, that's my I'm gonna have it.

438
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: So I have a big diet tribe. I'm going to

439
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: go on.

440
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 9: Before the complaining, I would just say it's more useful

441
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 9: rather than bitch about the white tail industrial complex, to

442
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 9: say instead like, Okay, this is where things are headed.

443
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 9: How can we take advantage of rather than bemoaning it,

444
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 9: Let's look at how we can flip it and make.

445
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: It a positive.

446
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 9: And so the positive could be the example of what

447
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 9: we're doing in southern Michigan with the Back forty and

448
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 9: with volunteers in the National Deer Association, where there's a

449
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 9: bunch of people who own private land or have leases

450
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 9: but recognize as a thing and also are realizing there

451
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 9: are people who do want to kill these doughs, but

452
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 9: they don't have the access. And we've found creative ways

453
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 9: to connect those people, and there's a lot more private

454
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 9: land landowners or leaseholders who are willing to invite these

455
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 9: people out to come and be a part of it

456
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 9: and to help us with these dough harvest goals. So

457
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 9: I think rather than bemoaning and saying like these people

458
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 9: who have private land are the enemy, like it's a

459
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 9: problem caused by them, it's hey, you've got great access,

460
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 9: and let's let's just invite more people out there to

461
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 9: kill these dos.

462
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: And so that's what we're doing. We've got great, big

463
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: dough deer camps, and that's what Bubby Dog does exactly does.

464
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: It's just like a kill floor over there, man.

465
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 9: But I think it can be a good thing because

466
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 9: you have situation. Not I'm not saying that. If we could, sure,

467
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 9: i'd reverse it back to thirty years ago. But we

468
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 9: are where we are.

469
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: We can't turn back time. So rather than.

470
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, so let's let's say what's spicy he got here? Well,

471
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 9: you're you're dogging on I'm kidding, Mark.

472
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: He's not dog on it. He's just saying it's a fact.

473
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: And I'm kidding about the dogging thing he is. I

474
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: agree it's a.

475
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 7: Fact, Mark.

476
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 8: I agree with you, But I also think that it's

477
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 8: not that scalable to be like just have a bunch

478
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 8: of private landowners jump in on this. I think there's

479
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 8: programs you could do that. But part of the reason

480
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 8: we are where we're at is because of this message

481
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 8: of like, the best way to kill a big one

482
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 8: is to lock it up.

483
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 7: Like a lot of guys aren't going to.

484
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: It one day a month right when the winds blow

485
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: out south southeast with a little bit of more south right.

486
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 8: And I think the bitterness doesn't come from So if

487
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 8: we look at this and we go, well, we'll have

488
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 8: a weekend and we invite a bunch of people out

489
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 8: to killdose, that's great, Like I think people should do that.

490
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 8: But that's also like my wife looks at hunting. If

491
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 8: I go bow hunting in the suburbs by my house

492
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 8: and I'm listening to traffic the whole time and it's

493
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 8: not I'm on twenty acres and I'm scared to shoot

494
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 8: one unless it's perfect because it might run into somebody's backyard.

495
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 8: That experience is not the same thing as the farms

496
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 8: I grew up in southeastern Minnesota, where I can walk

497
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 8: in with a stand on my back and I'm I

498
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 8: have land to work with. They're not the same activity,

499
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 8: even though they are the same activity. Yeah, And I

500
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 8: look at that and I go, it's nice to hand

501
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 8: some people some charity does and be like, go sit

502
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 8: this alfalfa field or whatever. But I think where the

503
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 8: kind of the where the jaded nature of you know,

504
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 8: the people who are bitching about this comes from, is

505
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 8: because they want to go hunting. They just don't have

506
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 8: the standards that you know, the private land guy who

507
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 8: wants to grow the big bucks does and he's like,

508
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 8: I'm getting kicked out of this experience of me going

509
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 8: and hunting for myself. I don't want somebody to just

510
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 8: be like, come out for two days and we'll put

511
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 8: you in the box blind and you can shoot a bunch,

512
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 8: because it's like, not the same hunt. And I think

513
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 8: that's where some of it comes from.

514
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: You know where I think the jadedness comes from. To

515
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: a large degree, I think it's a it's a reflection

516
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: of and I'm not just saying this. I fell out

517
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: of a boat. It's a reflection of age. And I'll

518
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: tell you a little bit why why I think that.

519
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: We one time had an entomologist on named Justin Schmidt,

520
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: and he is the inventor of the Schmidt pain index,

521
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: which is an index scale insect bites. He observed. He

522
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: said this about scientists. He said, the reason young scientists

523
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: make all the groundbreaking discoveries is that old scientists spend

524
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: all their time defending their now wrong ideas. So as

525
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: you're coming in and you're developing your outlook, you're like, oh, wow,

526
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: look at this and look at this how novel, And

527
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: then later you'll watch it'll start to your ideal become

528
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: aged people, the new generation of people will start chipping

529
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: away at it, and you're the human response is to

530
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: then go defend your set of idea, and now you're

531
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: not at the cutting edge anymore. Right. My fourteen year

532
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: old works at the meat Eater flagship store in Bozeman

533
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: day or two a week. He was working a lot

534
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: more in the summer, but now he's got school and

535
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: all that. Him and his other kid. So he's fourteen.

536
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: There's another kid that works down at the store who

537
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: has a driver's license. Okay, I'm out of town, and

538
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: he's like, can I go? Can we go hunting? On

539
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: the open day of duck season? Him and the other

540
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: kid he's going to drive. I give him like ten

541
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: talkings to about gun handling and all that kind of

542
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: stuff and send them on their way. And he said,

543
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: I said, where are you going? And he sends me

544
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: a pond, a public land pond, And I'm thinking to myself,

545
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: good luck with that, because it's like they saw a

546
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: bunch of ducks on a pond. So sure enough, he

547
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: sends me a text later someone's already in the spot,

548
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: which I knew what happened.

549
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: Well.

550
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: Later I talked to him. He had the best time

551
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: of his life. Went to a spot someone was there,

552
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: went down to the drove up and down the river.

553
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: They found like a little slew that had a beaver

554
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: damn on it, got out, put their decoys up and

555
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: killed a hen gadwall. Ecstatic, ecstatic.

556
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did it on their own.

557
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: And I've taken him out to my buddies, managed duck

558
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: property for duck hunting a fair bit. He has a

559
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: good time, but not as good of a time as

560
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: one like me and him will go sit under a

561
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: bridge when the Goldenezer migrating through the last day or

562
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: two of the season, right, and he went out and

563
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: had like the he's still on cloud nine about like

564
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: the proudest accomplishment you ever had. Now, you take a

565
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: forty year old or a fifty year old who goes

566
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: to the pond and someone else's there, what is their

567
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: demeanor about it? It's like that you'll always get beat

568
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: by young dudes who everything's still fun, it's still exciting.

569
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: They welcome the challenge, and you'll turn into an old generally,

570
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to be aware of this. Generally, what

571
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: happened is you'll turn into an old bitchy man, and

572
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: you'll forget that. You'll forget what it was like when

573
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: you were in your twenties and you scrounged and scrounged

574
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: and scrounged. We sufficient spot on the sue Edison Damn,

575
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: and old men would always get to the spot before

576
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: us because they could just get up earlier, and we did.

577
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: We would leave the bar and go to the spot

578
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and sleep at the spot because you couldn't beat him fair, right, Like,

579
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: that was the level we were willing to go to

580
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: to steal people's spots. And then you get old and

581
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you just bitch. We had this great we got this

582
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: great email from this guy in Michigan. He signed it

583
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: a piste off Michigan Hunter, and he was saying that

584
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: he was saying stuff this is like categorically untrue. He's like,

585
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: by the time the Big Hunt, yeah he called it

586
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: the Big Hunt. By the time the Big Hunt happens,

587
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: all of the bucks are dead because of the youth

588
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: hunt in the bowl hunt, and they ruined the Big Hunt.

589
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: It's like, is there any statistic to back that up?

590
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: That all, there's quite a bit of bucks are dead.

591
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: There's quite a bit of data to prove that's wrong.

592
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: How many fourteen year olds do you know are gonna

593
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: not go out because all the big bucks are dead.

594
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: It's just like you get old and you get bitchy

595
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: and you fall out of boats, and like you get

596
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: it's just how its go.

597
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Your stories don't track.

598
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: Your stories don't track. You forget what you were talking about.

599
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: You bitch about the spots you had, and you forget

600
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: that when you found that spot, someone else's hunting and

601
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: you got there earlier than they did, right, And they

602
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: drove off bitching and you stole the spot, and then

603
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: it became your spot.

604
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: And then later some kids shows up and you just like.

605
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: You know everything. Shit duck dynasty, you know what I mean?

606
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: Like Tommy Edison wrote in The Blue Collar Scholar, you

607
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: guys good.

608
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: On moving on.

609
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Tommy wants to know why do you criticize folks who

610
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: wear cowboy hats? I wear one, and often I could

611
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: make the argument that I'm more entitled to do so

612
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: than a random driver in a Bozeman airport. I grew

613
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: up with horses, own a steak and some cows, and

614
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: even still ride most Tuesday evenings. And he does, and

615
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: he does rodeo competition.

616
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 6: He criticized.

617
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: I think he's it's like he's laying out.

618
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: He's like he has I'll be right, No, I listen.

619
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. If I let's say I all of a sudden

620
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: started dressing up like a cop, what's that going.

621
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: To do to society? Chaos?

622
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when people dress up like cowboys, why is

623
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: it okay?

624
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: If I dressed up.

625
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 6: Like a cop.

626
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: It's just a general anti costume principle.

627
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: If I all of a sudden was like.

628
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: A badge and a police hat, and I started running

629
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: around and I got like a belt with some hand cuffings,

630
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: it'd be like.

631
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: A little But I don't think it's going to disrupt society.

632
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: If I dressed like a cop, yeah.

633
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 6: We would like sort of and then we would go

634
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 6: fishing with the cop.

635
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 10: I mean the real problem is you'd begin to think

636
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 10: you wear that badge long enough, then you think you

637
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 10: have the power in two which I think there's a

638
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 10: similar thing happening with the cowboy hat.

639
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

640
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: I've just been noticing that this guy, I feel like

641
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: it's getting a little loose. Who has a cowboy hair? Yes,

642
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: it's gotten a little. This been going on for maybe

643
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: it's probably it's a it's a gradient, no doubt, right,

644
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: But I feel like lately it's just gotten a little.

645
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Loose, right like it used to.

646
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Like for a while, it might not be that it

647
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: was you had proximity to livestock, or you had proximity

648
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: to live stock, you had friends in that world, you

649
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: held a certain worldview, perhaps you had certain political leanings.

650
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: It's now there's not even you could have a cowboy

651
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: hat and have zero proximity to live stock, be like

652
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: mega left wing. Do you know what I mean?

653
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 6: It's just like never ridden a horse.

654
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and I.

655
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Feel like it's getting a little it'skinna. It's like if

656
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: I had a police uniform. Do you think some of

657
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: it is the law enforce the Yellowstone effect.

658
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 9: I was just gonna say, like in Bozeman, you're just

659
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 9: seeing it so much because it's become the costume of

660
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 9: choice for out of towners coming to visit Yellowstone the show.

661
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: Sure, yes, And I told.

662
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: You how comfortable to COVID boots are. I've been breaking

663
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 4: in getting ready for the tailgate tour.

664
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: That's good.

665
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 6: I haven't been winning a hat to match.

666
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I I did find a man. Tommy agrees with me

667
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: on one thing. I recently saw him in the airport

668
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: through security with spurs. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding

669
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: through security with spurs and his work gloves tucked into

670
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: his belt and he was legit.

671
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: No, oh it was a costume.

672
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: And you know that a judgment.

673
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 7: I just like you can just smell it on him.

674
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: You's like, uh, it's kind of I hesitate to say,

675
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: because people you're gonna scoff. I have a phil broke

676
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: the fourth wall. I don't want you to think I'm bragging.

677
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think I'm bragging. I won't

678
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: because it doesn't ever do anything that benefits me. I

679
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: have a like a a future seeing clairvoyance, but only

680
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: on things that have nothing to do with me. Example like,

681
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: for instance, I could beat someone in a are and

682
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: they would say I just moved into the new roommate,

683
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: and I also know that in a week that roommate

684
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: won't be in that house anymore?

685
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: Are these.

686
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 8: Another example, the dude in the airport who's LARPing being

687
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 8: a cowboy.

688
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 7: What was it? Is there like something that trips your

689
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 7: intuition where you're like.

690
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: There's sixth cent it's probably because all this ship looks

691
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: new new. Yeah, where's like, because you know, is a

692
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: company that sells that buys gloves from actual farmers and ranchers.

693
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: There's companies that would sell Yeah, they buy gloves from

694
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: farmers and ranchers used, and they're called ranch worn gloves.

695
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: So you can get gloves that seems like you work. Wow,

696
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: did he have those? It's again engage with him. That's

697
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: the vibe I was getting. Is part of this because

698
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: what's that company called ranch worn gloves? I think is

699
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: what's called someone looking up?

700
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 8: It's part of this because you look at that person

701
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 8: and you're like, there's no way a real ranch hand

702
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 8: would be advertising that in the airport.

703
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: I just don't know why he'd have spurs on.

704
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd have slipped out of his spurs

705
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: right over the time. Yeah.

706
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 5: I don't think a real ranch hand or guy working

707
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: cattle is going to actually wear that shit to the airport.

708
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Let's do a survey. Let's call everyone you know. We'll

709
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: all call everyone we know that works in livestock and

710
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: will say, do you wear spurs to the airport? Dude?

711
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I think you'll get an overwhelming no.

712
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 7: I feel like Garrett Long might wear spurs to an airport.

713
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: The way I just never he grew up in a

714
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: ranch family and rides and still doesn't wear spurs.

715
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: Anyways, Tommy agrees that you shouldn't wear spurs the airport.

716
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 10: I don't understand the impulse to go somewhere and then

717
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 10: dress up in a regional costume. Yeah, Like if I

718
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 10: go to a city, I don't put on like a

719
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 10: business suit and carry a briefcase around. That's a good point,

720
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 10: you know, Like I was trying to think of other

721
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 10: examples where.

722
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: You'd get where you'd go to the town and dress

723
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: like you're from the like you're from that time, right,

724
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: Like this is fun.

725
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, like if you were in like a

726
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: real fishy location and then you had like a sun

727
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 4: shirt and shorts.

728
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 9: But there's like a practical you know, the merse with

729
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 9: your flag ear in it. Yeah, the slave pack, man,

730
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 9: you're still stuck on a sling the slave pa.

731
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: I know what it is.

732
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: I gotta move on.

733
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: You should call it the sleave pack though. That's way cooler.

734
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: Guy wrote in I was saying, how some names this

735
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: is another that's just this just strikes me as funny.

736
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: I can't prove this scientifically. Some names you can just

737
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: tell the family has a lot of money. Who we

738
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: were talking about, Oh, the guy that died in the

739
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: the guy that died in the Titan, and the Stocked

740
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: and Rush like Carnegie like money. Just call like if

741
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: your name is Stocked and Rush, it's like, no kidding, right. Well,

742
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: a guy rode in and he said his name's Wolf

743
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: von Mueller the Third and he says he.

744
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: Is not rich.

745
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say any name that starts with the

746
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: band category. Yeah, so I was gonna start going by

747
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Stephen von Rinella. But just see if money rolled my way.

748
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: Position.

749
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Wolf von Mueller the Thirds pointed out that he's broke.

750
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: And we had a guy named Rich who wrote in

751
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: and said I'm not rich. And this guy wrote in

752
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: a different guy, his wife's pregnant with the third child. Uh,

753
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: part of the agreement he made with his wife around

754
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: having a third child. This strikes home with me because

755
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm really regretting not having a fourth child. But uh,

756
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: it's really hitting me lately. His wife wanted a third child.

757
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 1: He said, sure, that's fine, but I get to name

758
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: it and you can't veto my names.

759
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: And she was cool with that. They they struck a deal.

760
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 3: Guess what. Guess what this guy's name.

761
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: Is that rode in the guy or the name he

762
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 6: gave it.

763
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: He's not named it yet. He's looking for advice. His

764
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: name is Jonathan mcgiver Buck. Whoa Jonathan mcguiver buck mhm, winding.

765
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: And he's kicking around for.

766
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: A boy Bridger Boon or buck, which would be.

767
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 6: A girl.

768
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: He's kicking around fawn oh man.

769
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 10: Or buck or he's really taking the you can't veto

770
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 10: this name and running with it.

771
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, leaning into that, right, I'll see what I could

772
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 9: get away with.

773
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: Ill.

774
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: I hope he doesn't name his daughter buck. Great name

775
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 8: is daughter buck.

776
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the two names I'm sitting on right now.

777
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 8: To name this girl fond.

778
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 6: Boy.

779
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: That makes a lot more sense than buck.

780
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 6: Buck.

781
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh, so it would be his name. I thought he's

782
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: got options. Oh he's thinking about Bridger boone. Okay, Now

783
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I still I like the letter. I like it even

784
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: more now. Bridger boone Buck is a bit much fon

785
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: dough buck is a bit much.

786
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, agreed.

787
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: I think it's restrained. I think it's tasteful, very subtle.

788
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 7: He's not going far enough.

789
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had so I've had a vast aectomy, and

790
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: and me and the missus been to got a long time.

791
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: We're not going to have any more kids. But the

792
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: two names I'm sitting on are.

793
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: If I did.

794
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I was telling her this the other day. I said,

795
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: if you know, I wish we did have another baby,

796
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: and if we did, I would want to name it.

797
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 1: I would like to name If I had a girl,

798
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I would name it. I'm just telling you these names

799
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: are for grabs anybody having kids. My dad was named frank,

800
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: so if I had a girl, I would name her Frankie.

801
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: And if I had a boy, I'd name him Earl.

802
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: So you can use those names. Why Earl because someone

803
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: mentioned the last name.

804
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 6: He likes to fry a lot of fish and Earl.

805
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: Guy.

806
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: I grew up around.

807
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: Earl. Is that Earl hot yet?

808
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 3: All right, that's the end of my notes.

809
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 9: Hey, we never talked about our trail camera We go, Yeah,

810
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 9: there's something I want to talk about.

811
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: Start with that.

812
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, tell me about your trail cameras. I

813
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: forgot about that.

814
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 9: Well, we were all just kind of lamenting the fact

815
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 9: that just happened to be that when we've got this

816
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 9: super fun trip. Is also the time when all of

817
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 9: us are kicking off many of our white tail seasons,

818
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 9: and these days we've all got pictures popping in on

819
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 9: our phones letting us.

820
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Know what's going on. Yep.

821
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 9: Uh, So I, for example, there's a deer that I'm

822
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 9: hunting on a four acre piece that yeah has uh

823
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 9: has shown up three times in daylight since I've been

824
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 9: here on four acres. Yeah, I should, I should clarify

825
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 9: it's not four acres. The whole property is sixty, but

826
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 9: all of it butt four acres is the standing cornfield.

827
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: So all to hunt is a little four acre sliver

828
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: on as long as he runs out of the cornfield.

829
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's running around feeling safe now that I'm

830
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 9: in Louisiana the third and open season.

831
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, so marked by that ration Michigan, if you if

832
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 8: you were in a tree stand, a little tree stand,

833
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 8: you'd be like, I'm hunting this buck on two square feet.

834
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: You're right, that would not be the right way to

835
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: describe it.

836
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 7: He hasn't daylighted yet on this two square feet.

837
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

838
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 9: So sixty four acre parcel, fifty six acres, fifty six

839
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 9: acre parcel, And then how has Does he have a name? No,

840
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 9: he's a tall he's got really really tall brows. How

841
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 9: about if I would refer to him, we practice that

842
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 9: tall brow buck. My kids call him tall brow.

843
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's good.

844
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 3: And that's the deer you're gonna try to get.

845
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 9: That's one of the deer i'd be after. He's the

846
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 9: one that I'm most excited about. Yeah, he is a

847
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 9: cool buck, and it's a it's fun to have a

848
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 9: deer like that on a little place where you wouldn't

849
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 9: normally think, you know, it'd be Uhland.

850
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: Just a local farmer. I got permission. Frohm, it's gonna

851
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: take me a hot second here to find it. Sorry, Okay, Yannie,

852
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: what's your what's your trail cameraport for over there in Scannie?

853
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: I haven't had a mature buck show up on any

854
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: of my two dozen cameras in like three weeks now.

855
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: Uh really, they all went into a whole.

856
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 6: I don't know. They're probably just hanging out in the

857
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 6: court and in the standing corn. I'm guessing. I don't know.

858
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: We're just not traveling much. But h so I'm not

859
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: missing I thought this it was pretty good timing. Honestly,

860
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: because September is for the elk and then November is

861
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: for the deer in my opinion, so I'd love to

862
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 4: do some fishing.

863
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: For the red fish.

864
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool one, isn't it?

865
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 7: Yanni? Were you getting pictures around.

866
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: This brow times as tall as the rest of his time?

867
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: I know, crazy, But again I told you that I

868
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: have bad service down by the fields, so I don't

869
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: really have any cameras set up on.

870
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: The food I got.

871
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: So Yanny's gotten off here.

872
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 6: That's a dandy mark.

873
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: And then, uh, Tony, what do you got going on?

874
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: Notice I skip Randall?

875
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah I did notice that.

876
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 10: Actually, yeah, I thought maybe we were doing first row

877
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 10: and then second row at the end.

878
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 7: I have.

879
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 8: I've had some deer show up this week that made

880
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 8: me a little bit thinking that should be home with

881
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 8: my daughters. I had a couple over in Wisconsin, but

882
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 8: I the last week of September in the first week

883
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 8: of October. I often have that happen, and I think

884
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 8: it's because even though where we're where those cameras are

885
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 8: that I'm talking about. Baiting got banned last year there

886
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 8: over a cwdpop on one of the game farms in

887
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 8: a neighboring county, so baiting was legal, it's not now.

888
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 8: I know that some of my neighbors are for sure.

889
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 8: So I think what happens there is we get a

890
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 8: prevalence of baiting right around the opener, and people get

891
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 8: bored with it into the season a little bit. So

892
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 8: it's it's my deer disappear right away, and then they

893
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 8: start trickling back in. And then once people are getting

894
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 8: excited about gun season, my dear will start to disappear

895
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 8: again because they're back out on the bait right right.

896
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 8: And so the entire time I've been hunting over there,

897
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 8: which is quite a while now, it's a very consistent

898
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 8: pattern where I'll have deer all summer long, not a

899
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 8: lot of deer because it's low deer density place, but

900
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 8: they will vanish around the opener, and then they'll start

901
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 8: trickling back in. So I actually do way better hunting

902
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 8: over there, even you know, on the public land over there,

903
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 8: by hitting that kind of window when a lot of

904
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 8: people are sort of the excitement over the opener's gone,

905
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 8: the anticipation of the rot hunt or the rifle hunt

906
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 8: isn't there yet, and everybody's just kind of backing off,

907
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 8: and I think it's correlated to just the bait piles

908
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 8: in the woods.

909
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: So and so that's what's boning Yanni two.

910
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 8: I well that when That's why I asked him if

911
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 8: he had deer around the opener, because if you, I mean,

912
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 8: you talk to a CEO and they'll say a lot

913
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 8: of times the complaints they get that lead debating citations

914
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 8: are because people are like I had these deer every day,

915
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, they all started disappearing, and

916
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 8: I know my neighbor's kind of sketchy or whatever, and

917
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 8: they'll go in there. It's so I wondered if yours

918
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 8: disappeared before the season or right around the opener and

919
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 8: they haven't come back yet.

920
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 6: Could be one of our customers. The guests that was

921
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 6: with us this week lives not far from our place,

922
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: and he said he were chatting about it, and he

923
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 6: said that we're probably one of the few places that

924
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 6: doesn't bait, even though it's illegal to bait in our county.

925
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was describing a situation that surprised me. Where

926
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: it's illegal debate, but baiting is done openly.

927
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 2: Mhm.

928
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 8: Where where I'm at, it's crazy. I mean, I do

929
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 8: a lot of grouse and woodcock hunting up there too.

930
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 8: It's big woods kind of stuff. The amount of bait

931
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 8: piles I find out on public land just roaman, you know,

932
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 8: and it's it'll be ladderstand bait piles, el camera, you know, lather, rinse, repeat,

933
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 8: and they're not supposed to be there.

934
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the so the agency just doesn't have but

935
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: they're just it's just not on there. They don't really

936
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: care about it.

937
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 7: I don't know.

938
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 8: I mean, I know in Minnesota for a while, I

939
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 8: did a I did a seminar one time, and there

940
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 8: was a conservation officer there who did it. He spoke

941
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 8: as well, and I was talking to him and he

942
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 8: said this was quite a few years back, but he

943
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 8: said that they had busted during the gun season. The

944
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 8: previous season. They had busted six different people who had

945
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 8: two guns with him, and one was like an old

946
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 8: shitty lever action that they didn't care to lose, and

947
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 8: one was their nice deer rifle. So if they saw

948
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 8: a conservation officer walking in, they knew that gun was

949
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 8: going to get confiscated, so they'd leave the good rifle

950
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 8: up in the box blind or wherever. Try to stash it,

951
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 8: and they had an older rifle they didn't want to lose.

952
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 6: Six different times they encountered.

953
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 8: That, right, So if you think if that, if it's true,

954
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 8: I have no reason to believe he was lying to us.

955
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 7: That's crazy.

956
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

957
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 7: Crazy.

958
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 6: Now.

959
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 8: I will also say this, if they're walking in on

960
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 8: like gun opener on somebody, they've probably been paying attention

961
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 8: to that person for a while. That person might be

962
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 8: the kind who has some citations in their past.

963
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: You know.

964
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 8: It's not like a random encounter with somebody who might

965
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 8: be baiting somewhere and they're like, oh, they have two rifles.

966
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 8: It's like we're going, we're working these people, you know.

967
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 9: So something Tony and I were talking about in the

968
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 9: drive here the other day, and I don't know if

969
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 9: you guys have debated this on some previous episode, but

970
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 9: has there ever been a discussion around the cost I

971
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 9: don't know if it's a cost benefit analysis or an

972
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 9: obligation thought process here, but the idea of basically ratting

973
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 9: out a neighbor who you know bates, do you turn

974
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 9: that into the CEO because it's the right thing to do,

975
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 9: knowing though there could be significant blowback to you in

976
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 9: the neighborhood if it gets back on you as being

977
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 9: the person that did that, and.

978
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a totally honest answer. Okay,

979
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: it would depend a lot on the neighbor, my relationship

980
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: with the neighbor, and my understanding of what the neighbors

981
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: sort of I would there would be so many things

982
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: it being a neighbor, h what their kind of experiences

983
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: have been, you know, like I know that when my

984
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: old man was near dying, he would scatter corn for

985
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: turkeys and then sit there and call. Yep. Did I

986
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: call and turn my dad in? Though?

987
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: That's my dad?

988
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: All right?

989
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: So now if we just kind of be like, oh.

990
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: My god, all right, what was our attitude toward us?

991
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: I feel like ourtitude was like really dad, but.

992
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 8: That that stuff can go south if you call. If

993
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 8: you I have a really good buddy of mine who

994
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 8: has forty acres and somebody bought the ten acres next

995
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 8: to him, and that guy was baiting deerhart illegally in Minnesota,

996
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 8: and my buddy called him in. He was very guy

997
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 8: was very gratuitous about it. So the conservation officer staked

998
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 8: him out of my buddy's land, built the case busted

999
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 8: the guy. Guy had several citations previously, and the guy

1000
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 8: fought it in court. And when the state turned over

1001
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 8: whatever evidence they had and reports, and they they left

1002
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 8: my buddy's name on there instead of having it was

1003
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 8: supposed to be anonymous. So then his neighbor found out

1004
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 8: he was the one who turned him in. And now

1005
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 8: when my buddy walks out back to go hunt with

1006
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: his kids, that guy, if he sees him, which because

1007
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 8: they're pretty visible, he'll go down there with his ar

1008
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 8: fifteen on the fence line, shoot all night long, shot

1009
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 8: their cat, shot his daughter's cat in their yard.

1010
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 7: It's a bad deal.

1011
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm talking about.

1012
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 6: Man.

1013
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 3: It's like it would just depend on something.

1014
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: It could be a situation where it's just I'm just

1015
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: trying to be honest. There's certain violations where I categorically

1016
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: absolutely would, but like some i'd just be I'd have

1017
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: to kind of weigh out. I'd have to kind of

1018
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: weigh out, like, is it sort of an old habit

1019
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: of an old man and they're not gonna be doing

1020
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: this for decades because they're kind of in the autumn

1021
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: of their life and they don't know any different. They

1022
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: don't kill anything anyway, I don't know. I just i'd

1023
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: had to look at it, you know.

1024
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 8: So the thing that I wrestle with, but this year specifically,

1025
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 8: is I know, I know some of my neighbors are

1026
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 8: doing it, and I go, okay, well, I'm an auto stater.

1027
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 8: I don't live there, so there that, you know, like

1028
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 8: that's part of the calculus, like should I should I

1029
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 8: call them in or not? And but on the opposite side,

1030
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 8: I look at this and I go, I only get

1031
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 8: a couple of weekends help with my daughters, and those

1032
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 8: guys are pulling all the deer away, and of course

1033
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 8: they don't care about the four ki's and the six

1034
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 8: pointers that my daughters want to shoot all day long.

1035
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 8: And so I look at it and go, am I

1036
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 8: being smart by just being like whatever, let it go,

1037
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 8: it'll it'll work itself out, like I don't want to

1038
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 8: get into that, or am I being kind of a

1039
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 8: coward because in a way, these people are stealing deer

1040
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 8: from my kids or opportunities, And so I like, I

1041
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 8: wrestle with that dilemma because I know my daughters would

1042
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 8: have more productive hunts if that wasn't happening.

1043
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 9: But you could also go down the line and say, well,

1044
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 9: what if they find out it was.

1045
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: Me who turned them in? Turn them in, and then

1046
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: they come back and make our lives miserable.

1047
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: Like your buddy, right.

1048
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 8: Well that's that's a big part of the calculus for

1049
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 8: me because I don't live there, and I think I

1050
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 8: think if they got called in anonymously, they'd be like,

1051
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 8: I know.

1052
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Who, Yeah, you know what to be the move. And

1053
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 1: this is something I learned. I learned this the hard

1054
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: way when I was in high school. I just like

1055
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: reflecting on this now. I lived close to a unit

1056
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: boundary for water trapping or for like the state was

1057
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: divided into three those zone zones one, two three. I

1058
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: lived near a zone boundary, so there was a November

1059
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: one water trapping opener, and then there was a I

1060
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: can't remember to tell that stagger, you know, like a

1061
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: week later or something. One time I'm scouting and I

1062
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: pull over. You know what's crazy is uh their dad

1063
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: went to check. I went to I was visiting my

1064
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: mom not too long ago and actually went over and

1065
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: checked under that bridge for tracks, just because I was

1066
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: feeling nostalgic. But I said I was scouting and checked

1067
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: under a bridge for coon and mink tracks and there's

1068
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: a trap set there but it wasn't open yet.

1069
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: Okay, they were on.

1070
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: The they this was on This was south of that border,

1071
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: so it was a later opener. But if you'd gone

1072
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: a few miles of the our direction, it was open. Anyways,

1073
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm pissed because I always set that bridge and someone's

1074
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: already trapping the bridge and it's not the season.

1075
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: I call and report the person. Okay.

1076
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: Then I get a call from the fur buyer who

1077
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: just lays into me about why in the world one

1078
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: it was another young trapper, he made a mistake, and

1079
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: why in the world would you not have left a

1080
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: note or pulled his trap tag and called him? Why

1081
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: in the world would that have been your solution? M right,

1082
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: and ripped into me for like selling out another trapper.

1083
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: So as I'm thinking about this, you could go and say, man,

1084
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: can can we sit and talk for a minute. I want,

1085
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: I need to talked about something, right, you know another But.

1086
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's a good idea. But that

1087
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 9: does then eliminate your option to ever turn him in, because.

1088
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 10: If someone else, if someone else turns him in, and

1089
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 10: I don't know these people it's another it's.

1090
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: Not I didn't know that. I didn't know. I should

1091
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: have probably said that. I didn't even check their trap tag.

1092
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: I just called the game warden. Someone's trapping leag onto

1093
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: the bridge, right, I don't know man, that one and

1094
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: I would have gotten the same result if I had

1095
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: done what what the fur buyer said I should have done,

1096
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: the same result would happened, right well, Tricky, thanks for

1097
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: joining folks, Tricky, Tricky.

1098
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 5: I got elk on my trail cameras and one.

1099
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: Black tail in Alaska. Oh yeah, that's got giant elkin trail.

1100
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: Real quick, let's do this before we wrap up. Impressions

1101
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: of of our first uh, our first round.

1102
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 6: Karen's over there doing this. That means you have to

1103
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 6: I go out fishing.

1104
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now. Impressions of the first round.

1105
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,959
Speaker 6: Yas, Oh yeah, I've been having a great time. Yeah.

1106
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: By the time i'll leave here, I'll probably be able

1107
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 4: to get hired on as a deckhand. I think on

1108
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 4: one of these offshore boats, I'm getting a little crusty,

1109
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 4: you know. H it's been drinking like they come in

1110
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: styrofoam cups when they make a cocktail around here.

1111
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 6: About yeah, BIG's about three of them in there, so

1112
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 6: you only need one per evening. But you know one

1113
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 6: of those every day about five. You're to sleep by

1114
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 6: eight and you get up at four and just would

1115
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 6: you say, lather, rinse, repeat, keep fishing. Yeah, fish again. No,

1116
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 6: it's been great.

1117
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the weather, this hurricane is about to hit Florida

1118
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: is making for crazy seas.

1119
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 6: So we didn't get offshore this week.

1120
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh it's hard to complain about it when you know

1121
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: what's about to happen in a couple of days. But yeah,

1122
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: it's we haven't fished offshore.

1123
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: But we fished in But everybody's been having a great time.

1124
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 4: I've caught more red fish this week than I have

1125
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 4: in my whole life.

1126
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 6: So yeah, if that when.

1127
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: We're out yesterday when I fell off the boat, our

1128
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: problem was everything was over the slot. We had six

1129
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: we had six uh reds that were over the slot over.

1130
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 6: Which they call bull from here.

1131
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: And this is like in a couple of feet of water. Man,

1132
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: they're impressive fish. When that tail comes out of the

1133
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: water and you see that your line's going into the

1134
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: water in one area and then way away the tail

1135
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: comes out of the water. You know, that's a big fish.

1136
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: So fun.

1137
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've caught a few of those black drum

1138
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: have been in that, maybe even bigger than the biggest

1139
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: bull red drum that we've.

1140
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: Caught, right, yeah, yeah, we've caught bull those bull black

1141
01:01:53,600 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 5: drum or whatever they call yeah yeah, right, yeah.

1142
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: So how we been doing it? We meet, we have

1143
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: breakfast at six, head out at seven because we're fishing

1144
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: inshore fish till I don't know noon or so, clean fish,

1145
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: vaccial fish. We got a freezer truck part down here,

1146
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: so everybody, all of our guests, they get all their

1147
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: fish cleaned up. We vaccialed all their fish with them,

1148
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: their fish going to their little storage bin. And then

1149
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: they left today and they take all their fish boxes.

1150
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you guys see any of the fish boxes

1151
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: going out? Did anybody have a full on fifty pound box?

1152
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 7: I carried several of them this morning.

1153
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 6: There were fifty pound boxes. That's awesome.

1154
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if they were fifty pounds, but

1155
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 8: they were pretty heavy. I mean the boxes that I

1156
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 8: carried this morning.

1157
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 7: Were not light. There was a lot of fish.

1158
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: In there, and that's inshore fish, right.

1159
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 8: Well, I would I would just say this about this experience.

1160
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 8: The second day that we fish. I've spent a lot

1161
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 8: of time fishing in my life. I don't know if

1162
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 8: I've ever seen so many fish come into the boat

1163
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 8: in one like half day. We were fishing this trout

1164
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 8: hole and it was like a double dropper, so it

1165
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 8: was two swim baits, you know, two feet apart whatever.

1166
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 8: You dropped them to the bottom. And there were four

1167
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 8: of us fishing in that boat. And there were like

1168
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 8: multiple times where we all we had eight fish, all

1169
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 8: doubles in the boat at the same time. And you

1170
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 8: think about how quickly you can you can rack up

1171
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 8: some numbers, catch eight fish at a time.

1172
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 7: It was crazy.

1173
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys were over one hundred trout that day, right.

1174
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 8: We went over Yeah, because there were specs in there

1175
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 8: was the silvers or white.

1176
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: There's no limit on white trous No.

1177
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 8: No, we went over that with the graph and it

1178
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 8: was a wall of fish in like a like a

1179
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 8: nineteen foot hole, and each the guide showed it to

1180
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 8: me on the graph and I was like, holy cow.

1181
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 8: And then we started dropping down and the competition down there.

1182
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 8: There was a guy on this trip named Andy who

1183
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 8: was He made me feel inferior as a fisherman. That

1184
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 8: guy could catch fish like he didn't even try. And

1185
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 8: I looked at him at one point and he was

1186
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 8: I could tell he had a fish biting, and he's like,

1187
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 8: I can tell that's a little one, so I'm gonna

1188
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 8: let it swimm around ntil it spits it in. A

1189
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 8: big one usually hits it after. And I was like,

1190
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 8: this guy's sorting fish on the bottom of the bayou

1191
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 8: before he brings him in.

1192
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1193
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 6: I was fishing with Andy yesterday and he was.

1194
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 7: Did he make you feel like less of a man?

1195
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1196
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 5: And then I was spending a few hours talking with

1197
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 5: him here at dinner in the evening and realized that

1198
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 5: the man fishes a lot.

1199
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: He's the guy we gave the Hot Stick Award to.

1200
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1201
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: So it's not because he's got a lucky horseshoe of

1202
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: his butt. He actually has skills.

1203
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1204
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's good. He's good at trivia to yeah. Yeah,

1205
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 8: smart fella.

1206
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 5: No.

1207
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had a great crew down here. Everybody laughed

1208
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I thought it was fun. Yeah, it was

1209
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: a great time, good time. And in a little bit

1210
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: we got some got another crew coming. Yeah, for a

1211
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: couple of hours.

1212
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, within twelve hours, I'll be catching another redfish. Really yeah,

1213
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 4: probably all right, yeah eighteen yeah, late night.

1214
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 8: It's got the early shift tomorrow eighteen hours.

1215
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: Everybody, thanks for joining, see you soon.

1216
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: It will never go right.

1217
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 6: No, that's a visit.

1218
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 11: If you got to see it, that would write SI kids.

1219
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 11: Gay people fight on the liver several ways falls.

1220
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: They'll put them together.

1221
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 9: Because now no go.

1222
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: It never know.

1223
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 5: No h my gout

1224
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 6: Listen is it show