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Speaker 1: Pistons beat the short handed Thunder by the score of

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Joe, Joe. And isn't there a pecking order

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Speaker 1: all about location. In pro sports, it's all about timing, timing, timing. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Because ain't no way you're supposed to be without five

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, plug and play for fellas them guys.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Joe and Uncle, I know we I know,

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Speaker 3: we at the halfway point, but obviously out of the East.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hell, yeah, yeah I do.

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Speaker 1: I haven't forgot boss, but I think for me personally,

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Speaker 1: I just don't see a situation where Boston and I

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Speaker 2: I'm putting my money on Detroit. Okay, hey, look me too.

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Speaker 1: Both of these teams had fourteen losses coming into today's game.

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Speaker 1: obviously Halliburton got hurt. It had been very interesting to

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Speaker 2: But it happened. What had happened. Just looking up at

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Speaker 2: He's probably made.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred over three hundred million dollars at the end

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Speaker 2: Tobias Harris, Oh my god. Hey, they got to pay somebody.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing is when you the thunder Joe,

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Speaker 1: Five six threes on him. Yeah, he from he Arkansas kid.

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Speaker 1: he ain't looking over his shoulder. He knows he's gonna

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Speaker 1: The man played thirty, he's going to get like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know these dudes. Yeah, he knows his minutes.

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Speaker 1: I already know I'm gonna get me thirty to night, Joe,

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Speaker 1: Gotta get him. They got up ninety six shot attempts,

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Speaker 2: Listen, that's a center. He shot five for ten from three.

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Speaker 2: This is this is a team.

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing is, in order for them

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Speaker 2: Give him consistent. Now we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Look, it doesn't have to beat Tobias, but they need

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Speaker 2: Who it comes from.

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Speaker 2: I wrote that down right.

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Speaker 1: As long as they give me, though everybody else do

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Speaker 1: People don't really chat chat Will an All Star, Jay

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Speaker 2: You look at the thunder they got McCain.

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Speaker 1: We go, look you doing what Joe. Let's go in

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Speaker 1: and get into that right now, speaking of an injury

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Speaker 1: this season. He will be ineligible if he sets out

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Speaker 1: two more games. That's why the race is tightening up,

434
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: because Yokich can only miss two games and and Sja

435
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 1: needs to play sixteen in the last twenty two. So

436
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: now you see Kay Cunningham, he's rising. You see JB

437
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 1: he's rising because now your two favorites might not be

438
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 1: in the situation. Lucas is hoging around. We'll see how

439
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: they finished. They're gonna probably need to finish in the

440
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: top four in order to get some serious confederation. Go ahead,

441
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: go ahead, Joe.

442
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 2: What you thinking? I think?

443
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't got yokis missing no more games, he

444
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna be eligible. Yoke leading the league and rebound and second,

445
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: Well he's well, I think Cave was leading, but I

446
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: think Kate is leading for the simple fact yok hasn't

447
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: played enough games yet.

448
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: But with that wasithstanding.

449
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: So he's what seventh or eighth in scoring? Ain'th and

450
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: scoring first and rebounding second of the sis?

451
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, many, he got another MVP coming this year or

452
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: they won't give it they won't give it to give

453
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 3: it a.

454
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Speaker 1: K I think it's gonna determine the last somebody games. Yeah, yeah,

455
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna determine a lot. I think as far as

456
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: like the MVP race, obviously we're gonna see who's gonna

457
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: be able to finish, who's gonna be in lines even

458
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: compete for it. But it's gonna come down. It's gonna

459
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: probably come down to like the last week. I'm gonna

460
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: be honest with y'all. Man, these dude's playing some ball

461
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: and want I'm ready to see shake it back. But

462
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: I've been watching yoga. I mean, be ridiculous. He still

463
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: he's still putting it down. He ridiculous.

464
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: Man, it can't.

465
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Speaker 1: It can't be a numbers because if you're gonna lose

466
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Speaker 1: a numbers battle to it, because the number is gonna

467
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: be so exemplary. Yeah, I mean he's at what like

468
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: I think he has twenty one twenty two triple doubles

469
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: this season. He just passed Oscar Robertson. When it's all

470
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: said and done, he's gonna catch He's gonna in the

471
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: next two three years, he's gonna.

472
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Speaker 2: Pas in the next two years, he'll pass Russ.

473
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, he he I mean, like I said, the

474
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 1: game comes so easy to him because Joe, and it's

475
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: not like it's a lot of strain on his body.

476
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: He doesn't play above the rim he got.

477
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: He got a freak injury, which is somebody fell into

478
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: him and the hyper extended his knee. But when you

479
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: look at the numbers that he's he ain't supposed to

480
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: be doing this, and it makes it look so heat.

481
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: Did you see the shot he just getting tonight out bounds?

482
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like, oh, that's hold on, y'all better

483
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: go back and watch him when he played the Lakers

484
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and see how many times he hit

485
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: that one leg Ad hit it on Ad several times,

486
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: hit it on Brown several times.

487
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: That's his shot. Damn.

488
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm on here looking k averaging nine point eight is,

489
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,719
Speaker 1: says Jokic, averaging like ten point five. But he had

490
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Speaker 1: he played enough games to qualify. Oh you're saying he

491
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: didn't play rights quiet? If he play enough games, yeah,

492
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: he gonna. Yeah, he's averaged the trouple double Joe again.

493
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying, you can't.

494
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Speaker 2: You can't.

495
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose the numbers game to it, right, because

496
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: you look at it, what if you average twenty.

497
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: Five, twenty five, twenty five, twelve and ten? Yeah? Ten. Yeah,

498
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: he's discussing that there bro what what what.

499
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 3: Hell at that rate, at that pace. Ship, So they

500
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: basically might well give him the MVP.

501
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Now, Joe, it's only twenty some games, twenty nine, he's

502
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: averaging basically thirty, thirteen and eleven.

503
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, we might get to him that, Joe.

504
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

505
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying where they're gonna finish up because

506
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: winning is gonna Honestly, he's gonna probably be in the

507
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: top five or six. Right, But if you got ca

508
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: them finishing number, they got the best record throughout the

509
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: entire league, right, A lot of it's gonna's.

510
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: Shaken, okay, based based on the record.

511
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they a lot of times they look at

512
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: best player on the best team. Who's the best player

513
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: on the best team. Last year it was Shaye. They

514
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: had the best record, and they were they were clear.

515
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: They were what ten twelve games clear of anybody in

516
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: either conference. Yeah, So but it's gonna he's gonna be

517
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: for the next three to four years. He's not falling

518
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: out of the top three, as far as top three, four,

519
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: it's as far as the MVP.

520
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the street like Lebron. Every year

521
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: Lebron either won it.

522
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: He was second to third one one second, second, second, third,

523
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: four third third second second.

524
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: That's how yok, he's gonna be. He's just that good. Yeah.

525
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: Now he has Murray Murray the playoff. Murray has showed

526
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: up in the regular season. Yeah, because we know what

527
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: that duo does in the postseason that I like the

528
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: watching kid took Joe, they got older, was it pat Yeah,

529
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: he hurt right now, Joe. Yes, he's hurt. He was

530
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: getting money over anybody.

531
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: He's hurt. And they've been out without without Aaron going

532
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: for a while, like a month. Oh yeah he should.

533
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: But what's wrong with a Yeah, you know that Hampshire

534
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: you do not want to play with. But they gonna

535
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: be in.

536
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the hunt though they get health

537
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: at the right time. You know, everything about basketball is

538
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: you want to be clicking going into obviously you know

539
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: the March and April. You want to be playing good

540
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: basketball man going to the playoffs. Yeah, but look I

541
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: get it. Joe I understand why they implemented the rules

542
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: because you take, you got these these these streaming services

543
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: and everybody playing max dollars and it's a very important game,

544
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: and the best player they sit out two three players.

545
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: That's a no, not okay, y'all want y'all want a

546
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: low manager, low manager ass out of an NBA all

547
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: NBA selection, all defensive selection. And if an m v

548
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: P or six Man of the Year, you're gonna you're

549
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna load manage yourself out of that now

550
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: because singing, slinging snotah, man, that might be okay. Play play, Yeah,

551
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: yeah you got because you gotta, because you got guys

552
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: ota who are who are Play a couple of games,

553
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: get their average up real high. Next thing you know,

554
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: they sitting out the next two three games. Well, look,

555
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: you ain't never gonna be one hundred percent throughout the

556
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: whole season. Everybody gonna have knickknacks, everybody gonna be a

557
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: little banged up. It's just throughout the duration of a

558
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: season six to eight months, bro, like every other day,

559
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it just adds up

560
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: so it's wearing tear on the body.

561
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you. You they've made it to where

562
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: you really got to go out there and compete for

563
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: what you want. Yeah, I like it, and uh, you're right, Joe.

564
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that you see that a

565
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: lot more in baseball, especially with guys with a batting type,

566
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: with a batting average. I don't want my Yeah, I'm

567
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: a couple of points in front of somebody, and I

568
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: don't want to go over and drop my batting average

569
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: if somebody passed.

570
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, because that's what you used to have have. Uh,

572
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: you got a car, I think in the in the

573
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties, if you won the batting tier, you

574
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: got a car. I got to leave it like what,

575
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't gotta be enough games here. You

576
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: don't back being a car probably on the cost like

577
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen hundred dollars on Joe, but that was a

578
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: lot of money back into.

579
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: Twenties and thirty fifty hundred. Yeah.

580
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen, boy, it'd be a time if we

581
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: if we get it like that again.

582
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: But you get it like that again, you ain't gonna

583
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: be making the money. You ain't finna be making the money.

584
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: That's the reason why prices when just went up. So

585
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: because prices went up, I'd be a home. A home

586
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: cost you thirty thousand. You ain't getting No, you can't

587
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: even be in a down payment on the house for

588
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: thirty grand Hell, I remember my grandfather mat of brand New.

589
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: I think a Priest Classic back in seventy three seventy

590
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: four think was like twenty nine hundred three thousand, Yeah,

591
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: big four fifty four.

592
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Big yeah. So uh no, but I but I agree.

593
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: I think the thing is it's gonna light the fire

594
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: fun of the guys and uh and get guys like

595
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: you know what this little man and plus man Joe,

596
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: you're making sixty seventy million, and you mean to tell me,

597
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me you be sitting out, especially

598
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: especially national television. You can't sit out no game that's

599
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: a Saturday or Sunday. That's man, Joe Abody's sitting around watching.

600
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: Hey, what if? What if?

601
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: What if players are really hurt though?

602
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: What if?

603
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: What if something's really wrong and they really needed to

604
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: take that time.

605
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Well, you can't we sit it out Saturday, Sunday didn't

606
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: play on Monday. Well, I can't play back to back.

607
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, you want the season go year round, because

608
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: the only way that you're gonna be able to get

609
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot of eighty two games an is that if

610
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you have to have some back to backs.

611
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: What you have, Joe about seven eight back to backs

612
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: in the season.

613
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Probably a little more than that, but yeah, yeah, man, listen,

614
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: it was one year. Okay, oh Jo, we had to

615
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: play You had to play three games and three nights

616
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: back to back to back.

617
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

618
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: Look, we played a back to back to back. We

619
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: played three games, three nights, and then last night we

620
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: went into three overtimes. Oh man, got us a couple

621
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: of days off. But you know, sometimes Jordan City play

622
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the same team. Yeah yeah, yeah, so you know, but

623
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: back then they didn't do that. You played back to back.

624
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: You back play Atlanta, then you had to go down

625
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: to Orlando, or you had to go to Miami and play.

626
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: But now sometimes they'll play back to back and you

627
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: play that same team back to back.

628
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they they've been doing it now.

629
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I thought, I thought you meant y'all y'all

630
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: played back to back but had to flat different places.

631
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: It did, Yeah, we did. We had to played three

632
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: different teams, three different cities. Yeah.

633
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Hold, I mean it wasn't no East coast to west

634
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: coast or western west coast to East coast, nothing like that.

635
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Not not with the back to back. They gotta have it.

636
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: They have got to have it on the East coast.

637
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: So you might play you might play the Knicks Brooklyn

638
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: and Toronto something like that.

639
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: That's not bad, that's not bad, Okay, okay.

640
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Or you play Atlanta, Orlando, Miami. Yeah, okay, you know,

641
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: keep it close.

642
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: No, they're not finn to see you to Atlanta and

643
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: then you gotta go to Portland and then you gotta

644
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: go you gotta play Phoenix or Houston or Dallas. That

645
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna do it like that. But they'll give

646
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: you Dallas, they'll give you Houston.

647
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

648
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of the NBA is sending their own independent doctors

649
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: to verify Laurie market is Mr I from an injury

650
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: into practice today.

651
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Per NBA porter Tony Jones, Joe's.

652
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: This is what has come to yeah, because the NBA say, man,

653
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: we ain't going, we ain't going. Matter fact, we send

654
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: our doctors down there and see what's going on with

655
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: these dudes, because this ain't this tanker stuff, man, And

656
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: then got out of hand and I think that's what

657
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: That's what the NBA think. That's why they said, we

658
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: send in our own doctors down there to check on

659
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: lord Mark and see what's going on. Yeah, this would

660
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: have come to put. The thing is, Joe, you know

661
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: your body? I mean the doctor say you've seen five

662
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: but no, my it is hurt.

663
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: So what do we do? What do we what do

664
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: we do? Joe?

665
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean most guys, I mean a lot of time,

666
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: if it's something serious, they go get a second opinion.

667
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 2: They don't never take the guy's first opinion. I mean,

668
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: you got something going on, Joe.

669
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if if you missed any time during

670
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: the season, but if somebody said, well Joe, you got this,

671
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what, let me go grab that

672
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: second opinion. Yeah, yeah, you go get a second opinion

673
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: for sure. I guess this may be the second opinion.

674
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the NBA say they want to know.

675
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: They Hey, they starting to investigate a lot more man's

676
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: It's been a lot going on.

677
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: You see.

678
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: They just shut jan Jackson down. He had to ask

679
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: he haven't certain he has the surgery for something. You

680
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: mean to tell me you're gonna trade all that give

681
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: up all those picks for a guy that you got

682
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: to have. They gotta have surgery where they do that.

683
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: Think about what they gave up, the giddy and now

684
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: you get now that he played a couple of games

685
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: going off and then the fourth quarter you see him.

686
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Lauren Markley was going on seeing him in the fourth quarter.

687
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: NBSCA, may y'all full of cor car That's why they

688
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: send them people down there.

689
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah we ain't. We ain't try to hear.

690
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we we were gonna be able to determine

691
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: this here. Hey yeah, uh uh. And then you see

692
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: the NBN say, you know what, ain't no more lottery protected.

693
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: Y'all want attack and you do the game, up the picks.

694
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Let somebody landing them top three picks. Somebody got it

695
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: cause you know, top three protected, top five protected. And

696
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Ben said, hell, Noah, ain't nothing protected. Listen because I think, uh,

697
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: I think Utah can still. I think they can get

698
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: the Number one.

699
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: They can, and I believe that they get the No.

700
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: One pick. They taking the bonza. That's what I think.

701
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: I think. For whatever strange reason, I feel like you

702
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: in Utah. Yeah, I don't know why. It's just so

703
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: I get it.

704
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think the thing is that when

705
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: you play and it's like they're playing too many games,

706
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: but THEMN okay, they're I'm sure the NBA won't have

707
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: a problem cutting the games, but they want to cut

708
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: that pay too. So because there you go with the playoff, Joe,

709
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: is that they won't less game, but we still want

710
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: to make seventy to eighty million dollars.

711
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: Don't know here, y'all. Yeah, I don't think we need

712
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: less games. Man.

713
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: It's been like this since as long as I can seventies,

714
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: as long as I remember, and I've been a lot

715
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: longer to both of you, so as long as I

716
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: can remember.

717
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Joe, they played eighty two games.

718
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Hey listen them, Dude, them dude playing in Chuck Taylor's

719
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: and in Converts Out didn't have technoledge shell toe. They

720
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: didn't have the like Joe said, that technology, the eating technology,

721
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: the training technology, the medical equipment technology, the doctor's and

722
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: everything is so much more advanced. So can you imagine

723
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: and if you look at track and field LOTOE, when

724
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: these guys would running the fast time, we're just regular shoes,

725
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: just imagine that they had those carbon fiber shoes. And

726
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: they had these mono tracks like they got right now. Man,

727
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: you saved by a man nine three. I ain't gonna

728
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: tell them how far something that with the jump he

729
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: dumped sixteen and a half feet Bob Beamy twenty nine,

730
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: two and a half an hour or two in Mexico City.

731
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: But they ain't have no technology like they got now.

732
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying athletes, but when you combine athletes

733
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: getting better and technology right alongside it, you got the

734
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: perfect storm. Yes, sir, Hey, look I kept me a

735
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: fresh pair of athotics in my shoes. What man a

736
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: pair of athotics? Orthotics?

737
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: All right? Joe I had him?

738
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I had Obviously I was a rebark during

739
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: that time. I had them take all the lining out

740
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: my shoe. I had no support that so basically because

741
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: I need I need to feel the floor. You know

742
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: what I mean, Joe, You ever had on you ever

743
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: had on a track spike or like a waffle shoe.

744
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I wanted.

745
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: My cleues to feel like I need to feel the

746
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: floor every time I step in, touching when it's time

747
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: me to break down.

748
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't want no support.

749
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: I don't want nothing restricting my ankle. It's weird. I

750
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta feel the floor. I don't, I don't know,

751
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: it's it's weird again.

752
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Used to get taped. Yeah, I got taped directly to

753
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: my skin. My bad.

754
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: Hell nod bet I look at these guys right now,

755
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that man out there playing with no heat, played out

756
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: there with.

757
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Footage, no no tank, say yeah, same same.

758
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: The only time I put on tape, Joe, it was

759
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: more for like fashion.

760
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't you know.

761
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't you know for my ankles and done. It

762
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: was just laid on there because I wanted to make

763
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: sure everything was able to roll and be real smooth.

764
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: It was. It was weird, o, Joe. I had to

765
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: have some tape. I had to be taped and that

766
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: pre wrap jumping.

767
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't feel you can't feel nothing, Joe.

768
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: I need to be secure.

769
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm boy, my ale roll by, Hey, my ankle bone

770
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: be on the ground, Joe.

771
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: I was a hard planner. I'm I'm not like you.

772
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh yo, under two hundred, that's two thirty getting moving

773
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: and having a stop on.

774
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: The dip right right right right right?

775
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot Oh you a little dude. He wouldn't understand, yo, Joe, Joe,

776
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: don't don't do that, Joe.

777
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: I had a little size when I was playing. Hey Joe,

778
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: if you take my cleat right, if you take my cleat,

779
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: you get bended like this, No you foel it. But

780
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: if it felt just like a track show, I just

781
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: had a cleat bottom on on on the on the bottom, man.

782
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: Man, Joe, I had.

783
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I had mold skin, you know what those scripts that

784
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: you put up there like, and then I had the

785
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: mold skin taped around directly to my speech.

786
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: That's what I had. Listen telling you listen, I ain't

787
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: playing to get heavi tates.

788
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get it like that for practice now, you know,

789
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I just go down there were pre wrap and regular

790
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: tap when it came right, I go out there for

791
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: warm up with regularly like like practice tape.

792
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: As soon as I come back, I take that off

793
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: all right, let's get it. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

794
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: I don't understand how people don't understand how people we

795
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: angle braces on. They put they they tape up their shoes,

796
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: then they put on the angle braces and then they

797
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: put their shoe on. Like everything everything, everything is restricted.

798
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, like, what are you doing it made no

799
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: sense to me, but it made people come.

800
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: From lineman tape up all that stuff because you know

801
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: them line they have they have on high tops. You

802
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: know they have but but but they don't have the

803
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: They have rubber bottom shoes on your They don't do studs.

804
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Most linemen don't do studs. Uh we I played with Zim.

805
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: He's the only officer of lineman ever seen where low tops.

806
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: You're real and no spat is it meant? Is it

807
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: mandatory to where knee braces?

808
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: If you are in college, most guys, if you wear

809
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: a knee brace, you've had a knee injury. Like you

810
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: look at Brady, Tom Brady, excuse me, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

811
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: John John played his career. John never had an a

812
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: c L. He toys a CL in high school and

813
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: they removed it, so he didn't have an a CEL

814
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: at all. Damn when I first got there. He didn't

815
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: used to practice with the brace. No, as a matter

816
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: of fact, he really didn't. He didn't practice with the brads.

817
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: He only played in the brace, but he practiced without it.

818
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: But most of the time, Joe, if somebody's had a

819
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: special lineman offensive lineman they'll they'll they'll continue to wear

820
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are where Tom Brady once he tore his knee.

821
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Brady ever took any brace off Peyton.

822
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: You know guys like that.

823
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could imagine a skilled position player

824
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: player with a big old doun joey on, Nah, I couldn't.

825
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: I noticed a lot of them lineman dudes. I know

826
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: they be because they always getting rolled exactly. I think

827
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: in college it might be mandatory. Most college teams have

828
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: all their offensive linemen wear knee braces because of that

829
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: what you said, Joe, to get rolled up on. But yeah,

830
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: nah m, but nah, I don't know how y'all do it.

831
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at it. I be looking at them

832
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: guys in amazement with no tape. I was like, man,

833
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: that must be real too. I couldn't do it. Hey,

834
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I'd be thinking the same thing because in football, especially

835
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the way they be tackling the receivers and the ones

836
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: who be out there with them little no show socks on.

837
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: I'll be like, man, how this dude? It's like every

838
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: play it's almost a Korean play, and especially because the

839
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: hill drop, that's what that's what. Yeah, what got me

840
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: oh your taping my ankles like that because guys were

841
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: hip dropping you.

842
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seem right.

843
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: Then they didn't call them high ankle spray. They just

844
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: called it an ankle spray, and so like, may this

845
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: thing taken forever the hill?

846
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: This ain't no till Yeah.

847
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: I never rolled my ankle like most people roll the

848
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: ankle over the top, roll it like that. I rolled

849
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: mine because I got I got dragged down from behind.

850
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: On you like that there, m m hmm. I know.

851
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: But that must have been real nice to be able

852
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: to run tape, yo, that must have been real nice.

853
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: And that, you know what.

854
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: Honestly, for me to be able to do that playing

855
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: at that level as quick and as fast as I was,

856
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: it all had to do when I was little, running

857
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 3: around with no shoes on. I could not play throw

858
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: up tackle in the street. You know, you play freeze

859
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: and a car coming. You know. I always either had

860
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: on socks or I had on no shoes.

861
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: So I need, I need.

862
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: I needed to be able to fill the floor.

863
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: Even once I made it.

864
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: It's it's weird, but but you didn't.

865
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: But you see, but you played in molding bottles. You

866
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: didn't play in studs.

867
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: Though, did, Yeah, motor, I'm playing no stuffs even when

868
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: we played the Steelers. Eve, when we played the Steelers,

869
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: remember how the Steelers purpose he had that bad feel

870
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: for as as an advantage to them. I still I

871
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: still wore. I still was, yes, still will mode. I

872
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: never slipped on, never slipped. I'm I'm always over. What's

873
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for? It's always over, yeah, always,

874
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: And I never yeah, I never extended. I never extended.

875
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: Oh you're playing on your inside foot and slipped like bro,

876
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: you know it's out here. You trying to play it

877
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: like you're trying to speed cut like it's dry man,

878
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: drop your heels and get put that weight open. The

879
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: guys started skating, put the back of the foot down.

880
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Ohoe mm hmm. But my first, my first, I think,

881
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: my first like ten years old shoe I wore molded

882
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: and then I went to the.

883
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: Speed tds, speedds Okay, okay, what actually called tempo bottles?

884
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I know, yeah, I know.

885
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, so how often did y'all go through like, uh,

886
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: different shoes every week? You're playing a new payer every yeah,

887
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: every week?

888
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: So what I would do.

889
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: What I would do is that I would wear a

890
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: new pair of shoes on Friday to get them broken in,

891
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: and then I would play in them. Then I would

892
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: practicing those Wednesday and Thursday, break out a new pair

893
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: for Friday, playing those on on sack on Sunday.

894
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like.

895
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: I like new shoes. I hated it on my shoes. Oh,

896
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: I played, so I probably played it. I probably played

897
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: in a new pair of shoes like every three games, Joe,

898
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: because I hated when they got too broken and too loose.

899
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm like my shoe to be snugged. Yeah, okay, playing

900
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: a new pair of shoes.

901
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: But I think George played the new shoes every game.

902
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, man, you know our new shoes, brand

903
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: new shoes hurt your feet. You know they say, like

904
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: brand new shoes. Yeah you remember you was a kid,

905
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Joe shoes too small. You're hitting the bottle with your heel.

906
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I hate that. I hate that. That's

907
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: how I got that. That's how I got this whole hamiltoe.

908
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: I got the shoes. Yeah.

909
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: You know you can go get a little surgery for

910
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: that too.

911
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 2: Now. No, I ain't heard, man, I played. It took

912
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: me through my whole professional career. No need you ain't

913
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: get no surgery. Lets after what cosmetics sound.

914
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I don't know how many times y'all ever

915
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: been under that knife, but I haven't been under it

916
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: quite a few times.

917
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: It ain't pre I ain't never been. I ain't never

918
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: been under that, Joe. That's probably why I'm suggesting it.

919
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: My bad, Hey bad, look at it. I had broke

920
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: my collar bone and it almost broke the skin. So

921
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: I got a knot right here. Ah, we can file

922
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: it down, I said, Man, do you know how pay

923
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: for that to be the file?

924
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: File bone down? Ain't bothering nobody? Who is right? Right?

925
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: And if I don't want I don't really walk around.

926
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: I ain't at the beach.

927
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: I ain't walking around with no shirt offs. Ain't nobody

928
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna notice it? When I do a photo, they just

929
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: switch you to the opposite side. So if I'm facing

930
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: this side, they'll take the bone and put it on

931
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: this side so you won't even notice it.

932
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: And okay, okay, yeah, man, hell no.

933
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: One of that knife ain't no Joe, boy, I got

934
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: eighteen screwed three plays in my face.

935
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: Man, Oh you breaking over the but you got elbow, Joe.

936
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: I went up to dunk the ball and and uh,

937
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: stack House tried to block it and he kind of

938
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: bodied me and I slipped off the rim. Here face first,

939
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: I saw that guy happen to a guy in high school.

940
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: He tried to dunk the ball and the guy undercut him.

941
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: And the first game was hit with this.

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I was. I was in bad shape.

943
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I was in bad shape.

944
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: How how much time you had had to miss, Joe?

945
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: We was in the playoffs. It was the first round.

946
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: It was the first round of the second round of

947
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and uh, that was the that was the

948
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: first game. Damn man, I missed. I missed the rest

949
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: of that series. I think we beat him in six.

950
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 1: I was out about two weeks and that was early.

951
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: I came back early, whole hour of bloodshot red, you know,

952
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: just from the surgeon and all that. Right, It took

953
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: a minute for their redness to get out of my eye.

954
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: And you had the mak you had the mask on.

955
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: I had the mask I had to wear, got the mask.

956
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: I still got it, batman, Joe, what you can't breathe

957
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: in it? You could?

958
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: That was back in two thousand and five. You couldn't

959
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: breathe with that mask on. I had to have a

960
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: think you had the word one U.

961
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: I was blocked.

962
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: I was blocking down, doing a combo block power block

963
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: on see sixteen pound.

964
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. Lineman come around pulling fist go

965
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: right through my face mask. Damn fractured my orbital yep.

966
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but mine that one hurt.

967
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: Man.

968
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: Hey, I remember letting. I was laying on there having

969
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: my face hand like this here.

970
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man and Greek head Steve an Toil,

971
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: we call him Greek though he cut sharply.

972
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: What's wrong?

973
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: I said, Greek. It just felt like my face exploded.

974
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: So he said, he said, let's you know, hey, can

975
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: you get up? I said yeah, but I don't want to.

976
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: So they got me their X ready had a comp

977
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: had a complete blow out the floor because I said,

978
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 1: some of socket the whole floor.

979
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I know. I was in pain. Boy.

980
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling me, I would tell him give me morphine,

981
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: give me something, y'all gotta give me something.

982
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: I ain't want nothing. He don't. I don't do the

983
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: pain medicine because the pain medicine have you constanpated?

984
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: I had to my head listen listen. I came down

985
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: hit my head on the floor, so I don't know

986
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: if it was from that.

987
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

988
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Probably my head was ringing so bad. Yeah, and you

989
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: know like once that, once something like that happened. They

990
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: don't want you to fall asleep.

991
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep what they say. You know you're okay,

992
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: don't fall asleep. I said bad. I get home. I'm

993
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: going to be I think I think my orbital. I

994
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: think my orbital was more more, more painful. But I

995
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: don't know.

996
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I dislocated my elbow too, because you see, I'm

997
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: elbow beer like this. It bent like that the other

998
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: so it's been there like this, it bent like that

999
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: the other way.

1000
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: Damn, what the hell happened?

1001
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Tried to catch try to catch a past and rombo

1002
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: had I couldn't get my arm through, so he I landed.

1003
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: He landed on top of me and bent it up.

1004
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: Ah God, I had elbow surgery. I had elbow surgery too.

1005
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: I had elbow surgery too. I had three I had

1006
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: three chip bones in my socket. I woke up one

1007
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: morning my arm was stuck like this here. I couldn't.

1008
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't. You had loose you had loose bodies in there.

1009
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: Huh oh man, yeah, Doctor Andrews got me right over that.

1010
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: And uh he died in Mobile and Montgomery. Uh I

1011
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: think Birmingham, Yeah, I think so. God damn y'all.

1012
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Y'all been on the table like the like the little

1013
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: operation you remember the age, Yeah, yeah, operation.

1014
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1015
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: But y'all have had everything done.

1016
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: Speaking of