Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: I would say the seaspier is on massive life support.
Speaker 2: Where the doctor walks in and says, sir, your loved
Speaker 2: one as approximately a one percent chance of living.
Speaker 1: They give us a stupid perment. It's a stupid proposal,
Speaker 1: that piece of garbage.
Speaker 2: They said, Yes, I didn't even finish reading it. I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to waste my time reading it.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump yesterday on the proposal that they sent back
Speaker 1: Iran sent back to us, is this.
Speaker 2: Matter.
Speaker 1: It's like if the doctor came in and said, sir,
Speaker 1: your loved one as a one percent chance of surviving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't even finish reading it. Boy, they're blasting them
Speaker 3: on Morning Shoe for that. The President isn't even served.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't even read the Wow, wouldn't if the first
Speaker 1: line said reparation, say okay, I'm done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, we get to keep the straight You pay
Speaker 3: us back for all of them.
Speaker 1: And you're going to read all the fine print after that.
Speaker 3: Not only are we going to develop weapons, you got
Speaker 3: to give us some nuclear weapons, right, right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why would you read that?
Speaker 3: It was an fuh a middle finger, but with diplomatic
Speaker 3: cover of saying it was a counterproposal for whom I
Speaker 3: don't know, to try to win the war. Well, you know,
Speaker 3: part of it's to to bolster the American left. I
Speaker 3: just gave myself the answer. They are giving the American
Speaker 3: left a club to beat Trump with, and the American
Speaker 3: left takes it because they hate their country and they
Speaker 3: hate the president.
Speaker 1: Here's ABC's report on how things are going.
Speaker 5: Ron to ten days to respond to President Trump's one
Speaker 5: page proposal meant to set the.
Speaker 1: Stige for peace hawks.
Speaker 5: According to Iranian state media, their demands called for the
Speaker 5: US to pay reparations, lift sanctions, and give them control
Speaker 5: of the strader for moves. Iran would not commit to
Speaker 5: any changes to its nuclear program until those conditions are met,
Speaker 5: the run's top negotiator warning, our armed forces are ready
Speaker 5: to deliver a well deserved response to any aggression.
Speaker 1: So it is a one hundred percent stalemate, call it
Speaker 1: a quagmire if you like that word. Now, and we
Speaker 1: have the ability to change the dynamics of that by
Speaker 1: bombing the crap out of them. Otherwise it's they clearly
Speaker 1: think they've got the upper hand. I mean, why would
Speaker 1: they wait ten days to respond with oh on that
Speaker 1: to offer youmainus few? Why would they with ten days?
Speaker 1: Because they think time is on their side. They think
Speaker 1: the days going by puts more pressure on Trump with
Speaker 1: his pull numbers or the price of gas or inflation
Speaker 1: that came out today or whatever. As opposed to Trump
Speaker 1: thinks every day that goes by, they're losing whatever it is,
Speaker 1: that half a billion dollars of revenue or something. They
Speaker 1: must not be worried about that.
Speaker 3: Especially because the IRGC doesn't give a crap about the
Speaker 3: people of Iran. The machine gun them in the streets,
Speaker 3: that's your first clue that they're not that compassionate. If
Speaker 3: you know unemployment surges and people are having trouble buying groceries,
Speaker 3: you will in a machine gun somebody. You don't care
Speaker 3: really whether they suffer. So, yeah, they're and given the
Speaker 3: current status of things, if all you care about is
Speaker 3: your elite, yeah they're fine.
Speaker 1: They're fine. We need to.
Speaker 3: Blow up everything that floats, from military craft to those
Speaker 3: fast boats to rubber freaking ducks. If they're within twenty
Speaker 3: five miles the coast of Iran. Anything that floats are
Speaker 3: gonna blow out of the water. Yeah, you're gonna you know,
Speaker 3: we've got that ratchet up the pain. The current thing
Speaker 3: is just ridiculous, the current situation.
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal's take on it was that the
Speaker 1: US and Iran are locked in a stalemate because neither
Speaker 1: one wants to resume fighting. Well, if there is fighting,
Speaker 1: we're on the winning side of that. If they're fighting.
Speaker 1: So I just I can't imagine. Well, there's only two
Speaker 1: ways out. Either Trump accepts. I guess they control the
Speaker 1: straight of hormones, which is international waters, for God's sakes.
Speaker 1: And I guess they'll continue to try to get a
Speaker 1: nuclear weapon, and I guess they'll keep their uranium and
Speaker 1: we'll end this. That's not an option, is it? Whoops? Yeah? Whoops? Yes,
Speaker 1: that didn't work the way I thought. That's not an option,
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Surely not? No, God, you talk about a legacy killer.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, I mean he would be the lamest
Speaker 3: of ducks, humiliated.
Speaker 1: That'd be all he'd be remembered for. Perhaps, even with
Speaker 1: all the things that has gone on in two presidencies,
Speaker 1: maybe the only thing he'd be remembered for is starting
Speaker 1: a war in which the combatant came out better than
Speaker 1: when that started.
Speaker 3: I wonder because Donald Jay is so mercurial. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's gonna do that, by the way, right, No,
Speaker 3: I don't either. It would just it's so obviously a
Speaker 3: horrible idea. He can't have anybody in his ear saying
Speaker 3: that's a good idea. Marco wouldn't no, in any of
Speaker 3: his eleven jobs. Pete Hegsath wouldn't rage of raising Cain.
Speaker 3: General Kane wouldn't do Shady.
Speaker 1: Vance might oh boy, and he's the vice president.
Speaker 3: The Beard, the Beard, keep your eye, don't turn your
Speaker 3: back on the Beard. No, it's got to change the
Speaker 3: math quickly, because the current situation is it's better in
Speaker 3: some ways than the pre attack situation, in fact, in
Speaker 3: some pretty significant ways, but in some ways it's worse.
Speaker 1: It's just not an acceptable outcome. Well, if they end
Speaker 1: up in control of one of the most important waterways
Speaker 1: in the world, then they came out of this war
Speaker 1: better than they went into it, even losing their navy
Speaker 1: and everything else. I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big deal. If that becomes the
Speaker 3: status quo it's at least a break even. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 3: What I started to say and then I distracted myself
Speaker 3: is Donald JA is famously mercurial. Often it's not five
Speaker 3: dimensional chests. It's changing his mind constantly.
Speaker 1: The twins the text for the social truth posts from
Speaker 1: last night, your sentence, Oh yes please.
Speaker 3: And I can accept if the administration, including Donald JA,
Speaker 3: thought that the Iranians would capitulate more quickly than they are,
Speaker 3: that they had more disregard for the people in the economy. Uh,
Speaker 3: they were intact enough and unified enough to hang on
Speaker 3: when we thought they would give up. That's a miscalculation.
Speaker 3: That happens. You can understand that. It's unfortunate, but it happens.
Speaker 3: If he, as some critics have claimed, thought it would
Speaker 3: go just like the Maduro thing. We're so great, We're
Speaker 3: so powerful, I'm so smart, It'll be easy, peasy. Well,
Speaker 3: history and the soon to be written books about this
Speaker 3: episode will.
Speaker 1: Be extremely harsh if that's the case. So I think
Speaker 1: Trump's gonna start bombing Iran, and I think it can
Speaker 1: still come out the way we want it to. But
Speaker 1: Trump had fifty five truth social posts in three hours
Speaker 1: last night. He got on a jag of diet coke
Speaker 1: or something fifty five and three hours ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: accuses Obama of attempting a coup in twenty sixteen, followed
Speaker 1: by a Fresh on Everybody's Mind, followed by Obama worked
Speaker 1: with CIA to overthrow Trump, followed by reposts tweet saying
Speaker 1: Obama is a traitor and that he should be arrested.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're so used to this stuff, we don't
Speaker 1: even It doesn't even land. Like if I didn't come
Speaker 1: across this particular site, I wouldn't have known that the
Speaker 1: current president put out a statement last night saying the
Speaker 1: previous president should be arrested. That used to be a
Speaker 1: big deal. No longer even makes Wow. Are we Brazil? Now?
Speaker 3: Nobody takes it seriously. It's funny. You read that to
Speaker 3: me and I thought, oh wow, what's next.
Speaker 1: Nobody takes it seriously. He's not going to do anything.
Speaker 1: He's just on a jag. He saw something about Obama
Speaker 1: on somebody said something Obama about Obama on a cable
Speaker 1: news show and got him all worked out. I would
Speaker 1: guess wow. Ten twenty two at tax Dominion voting systems
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty elections saying they switched votes. Ten
Speaker 1: twenty two says Fulton County, Georgia had their twenty twenty
Speaker 1: fraud exposed. Ten twenty three accuses Obama of making one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollars from Obamacare.
Speaker 3: He's a actually obsessed with the elections. I thought it
Speaker 3: was just strategic, and no, he's obsessed with it.
Speaker 1: Ten twenty three cites quack lawyer Sidney Powell on the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. Ten twenty four posts a fake JFK
Speaker 1: Junior account that says Obama wire tapped Trump tower. Ten
Speaker 1: twenty seven demands Senator Mark Kelly resigned. Ten twenty nine
Speaker 1: claims neither Biden nor Harris were in charge of the
Speaker 1: Biden administration. Ten twenty nine attacks Fulton County, Georgia again.
Speaker 1: Ten twenty nine posts Fox News clip of Rocanna saying something.
Speaker 1: Ten thirty demands Jack Smith be arrested. Wow. Ten thirty
Speaker 1: accuses Obama Clinton call me of treason. Ten thirty nine
Speaker 1: reposts a tweet from a MAGA account saying they have
Speaker 1: a secret intel proving Clinton and Obama committed crimes. Ten
Speaker 1: thirty nine reposts some maggot tweet saying Hillary Clinton should.
Speaker 3: Be sent to Haiti. What's a good one sent to Haiti?
Speaker 3: Lock her up in Haiti, Lock her up in Haiti.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it goes on and on with a lot of
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: I am no Trump, basher, I am no. Trump is
Speaker 3: always right guy. That is not a sign of sound
Speaker 3: mental health. That list, And keep in mind, how far
Speaker 3: into the list did you get a third.
Speaker 1: Of the way. Oh, I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: got quarter. I don't know. That's not good. Well, it's
Speaker 1: not normal. I'm not I'm not of the camp that
Speaker 1: mainstream medias have been trying to build the narrative since
Speaker 1: he took office that he's got dementia or he's losing it,
Speaker 1: are whatever, which is weird. So you ignored the last
Speaker 1: president who clearly actually had dementia. Yeah, and then see
Speaker 1: you gotta like go overboard trying to build a case
Speaker 1: of this guy. I think Trump's always been this person.
Speaker 1: I think in nineteen eighty two, if he'd had the
Speaker 1: ability to shoot off his mouth fifty times a night
Speaker 1: on different topics, he would have right. I think that's
Speaker 1: just the way he's built.
Speaker 3: He would call magazines and newspapers as his own Press
Speaker 3: secretary or whatever John Miller and feed.
Speaker 1: The Media quotes. Yeah. Ten forty posts a TikTok video
Speaker 1: of people stealing from a convenience store, followed by ten
Speaker 1: forty one post a TikTok video of someone stealing a
Speaker 1: door deack shorder. I guess to show the crimes out
Speaker 1: of control.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Ten forty one accuses Obama, Brennan, and Clinton of sedition
Speaker 1: and treason again, going back to that from a half
Speaker 1: hour earlier.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: A half hour later, ten forty seven calls Obama the
Speaker 1: most demonic force in American politics. What was he watching
Speaker 1: where Barack Obama was the topic? Because that's too presidents ago.
Speaker 3: He's been weighing in heavily and wildly hypocritically on the
Speaker 3: redistricting thing.
Speaker 1: Right, he has been right, Obama, it just.
Speaker 3: Cannot leave the spotlight. He is so in love with
Speaker 3: his own influence.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, Obama said something the other day about the
Speaker 1: Court that was just outrageous from a former president. Of course, nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody's disgusting. Nobody criticizes that. Ten forty seven posts a
Speaker 1: tweet from Mike Flynn saying the twenty twenty election wasn't
Speaker 1: fair Oh my god. Ten forty nine attacks dominion voting
Speaker 1: machines again. You gotta be kidding the poor guy. I
Speaker 1: almost feel bad for him that he lays down for
Speaker 1: bed at night. You know he sleeps three hours a
Speaker 1: night still thinking about dominion voting machines from twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: What a tortuous way to live your life.
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Speaker 1: at one thirteen am attacks the New York Times for
Speaker 1: reporting on the reflecting pool that is abnormal. Who can
Speaker 1: stay up that late and work both schedule? He's got,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 3: Good flight halfway around the world to meet Shijin Ping,
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Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Lakers season just ended. Final score Thunder
Speaker 6: one fifteen, Lakers won ten. That means that the Oklahoma
Speaker 6: City Thunders, defending champions, have now swept the Lakers out
Speaker 6: of the playoffs. They swept their first round series as well.
Speaker 6: This was the closest the Lakers got in any game.
Speaker 6: They were right there, put up a big fight, but
Speaker 6: in the end, the defending champs just too much.
Speaker 1: Well, the main topic out of that last night of
Speaker 1: Your Sports Fan at All has been is that the
Speaker 1: last game Lebron ever plays, all the movie stars showed
Speaker 1: up were there in the front row in case it
Speaker 1: was Lebron's last game. But a right at the LA
Speaker 1: Times piece last night about Lebron needs to go. Clearly,
Speaker 1: an old man couldn't even win one game. Their best
Speaker 1: player in the leading scorer in the NBA was out,
Speaker 1: and they're playing the defending champions, who might be the
Speaker 1: best team in ten years. Right, So I don't understand
Speaker 1: that reason at all. He is an old man. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if with Luca, if they had lost to the Thunder,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't even be that surprising. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 3: I remember I used to call sports talk the lowest
Speaker 3: form of humans communication above only grunting yeah to barely barely.
Speaker 3: It's clickbait. It's like everything, everything's clickbait.
Speaker 1: Uh, you've probably got a hot.
Speaker 3: Take that's utterly unsupportable. But then we'll take your calls
Speaker 3: a very outraged call.
Speaker 1: Ye, you know you're right. When I saw the LA
Speaker 1: Times headline if it's time for Lebron to go, I
Speaker 1: thought I clicked on it because I what, how do
Speaker 1: you make that argument? He's still playing. Okay, he got
Speaker 1: me to click on it. Yeah, that's all they care about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've gone too far, I think because New
Speaker 3: York Times had the like the twenty five Greatest American
Speaker 3: Songwriters or something like that.
Speaker 1: Thirty Greatest Singer Songwriters.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a rage bait, but you know then I
Speaker 3: thought I might discover a good songwriter too.
Speaker 1: I'll take a look at it.
Speaker 3: But I refuse to get sucked into the all hundred
Speaker 3: Greatest guitar players of all time?
Speaker 1: How could Hendrick snap No, No, you're not gonna get me.
Speaker 1: I'm too old and wise. By the way, speaking of
Speaker 1: sports kinda, they've released all the Tiger Woods video from
Speaker 1: his flipping yet another car, and uh. On one hand,
Speaker 1: I regularly argue you, I'm not sure that the public
Speaker 1: should get to see or hear all this different stuff,
Speaker 1: especially when it's a misdemeanor. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: one's gonna be missssed out of your business. This might
Speaker 1: be any who as amazing how he still had the
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods swagger standing there next to a flipped car
Speaker 1: with the cops about to put him in jail again.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I would think at some point you'd feel a little
Speaker 1: diminished and a little humbled, but not Tiger Woods. Right,
Speaker 1: he still had the I'm the coolest guy in the
Speaker 1: freaking world. There's the one shot of him looking really
Speaker 1: like weak and well wasted. Yeah, he looks wasted, but
Speaker 1: that's that's it.
Speaker 3: I mean, he looked humbled, but he when you see
Speaker 3: the video that was just the snapshot. That kind of lies,
Speaker 3: because yeah, he absolutely was what's going on, Phyllis, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just had to make a call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a second, I gotta make this call.
Speaker 1: And then he's kneeling going to give you a second.
Speaker 1: He's kneeling over on the grass with his big buff
Speaker 1: body and his hat on backwards and sunglasses on, looking
Speaker 1: all cool. Dude, you just flipped another car in a
Speaker 1: residential neighborhood and you're going to jail again. How do
Speaker 1: you flip a car in a situation like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how fast you'd have to be going,
Speaker 1: or or what you would do. It's a miracle. He
Speaker 1: hasn't hurt anybody but himself. Yeah, and I hope that
Speaker 1: gets through him so he doesn't kill some kid on
Speaker 1: a bike someday. Yeah. God, that's horrifying. So I've lost track.
Speaker 3: Is he in Tibet re embracing his Buddhism or is
Speaker 3: he Switzerland as some alleged detox with beautiful views.
Speaker 1: He's in Arizona doing the sex rehab. Remember he did
Speaker 1: that at one time, and he got sex addict right.
Speaker 1: He couldn't stop hitting on the Perkins waitresses. God, Tigerli
Speaker 1: is not an old man either. Oh No, he's got
Speaker 1: to come up with a new hobby. Can you get
Speaker 1: one of.
Speaker 3: Those prediction market bets on him having another crack up
Speaker 3: within like a year or two, because he certainly feels
Speaker 3: like a crack up to me.
Speaker 1: He didn't look humbled in that video. He didn't look
Speaker 1: like a guy who thinks, you know, I need to
Speaker 1: get my life together. He didn't look like that at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am now I'm the greatest golfer of all time,
Speaker 3: but I'm an fop. I didn't see that in his
Speaker 3: body language. No, Charsie was wasted.
Speaker 1: Hey, I think we're gonna talk to Katie, Katie the
Speaker 1: newslady who's like hours away from having a baby. Oh wow, Yes,
Speaker 1: armstrong and geddy. So Katie Green does our news and
Speaker 1: is part of the show every day, and she is
Speaker 1: having a baby, like very shortly, and we're about to
Speaker 1: put her on the air, and I think if we
Speaker 1: can somehow drag out the conversation, Yes, she'll lose track
Speaker 1: of time and have the baby on the air. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think that would really be good for us, and
Speaker 1: we could sell sponsorships. Oh yeah, it'd be a great
Speaker 1: ratings stunt. This contraction brought to you by Panthers.
Speaker 3: Wow wow Wow. Can you charge them retroactively for that?
Speaker 1: Do we have Katie? Yeah, Ladies and.
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, the fabulous Katie Green live from the delivery room
Speaker 3: calling in hockey Katie.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: There would be so many FCC violations if you guys
Speaker 4: tried to do that stunt up that work.
Speaker 1: You are you're a dedicated radio professional, are you Actually
Speaker 1: you're actually at the hospital in a bed.
Speaker 4: I am at the hospital in a bed having contractions.
Speaker 1: As we speak.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, in the in the like super nice modern
Speaker 3: delivery room setting or what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's actually it's a beautiful room. It's huge,
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm the bed's actually comfortable, which is odd.
Speaker 4: That's it's been great.
Speaker 1: And of course you didn't know this, but we had
Speaker 1: a radio contest last week where five listeners got to
Speaker 1: be there. So you've got the listeners there, we're watching
Speaker 1: you have the baby.
Speaker 4: Plus those are the people that keep coming to the door.
Speaker 1: Those are listeners who want to contest.
Speaker 3: Plus, when you sign the paperwork to start working with us,
Speaker 3: you signed away the naming rights to the baby.
Speaker 1: So please welcome baby mcbaby face.
Speaker 4: Damn it. It's always the fine print that I read, right.
Speaker 1: So how you feeling?
Speaker 4: I feel pretty good? Uh.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: There was a little bit of a starting process to
Speaker 4: this whole getting induced thing that involved a balloon and
Speaker 4: not the type that you would see at a party.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And that was that was painful, But now that that
Speaker 4: part's over, we're we're good. And then in about an
Speaker 4: hour they're talking about breaking my water and then little
Speaker 4: Jack Joe, Mike Michael be here shortly after that.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, in about an hour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, depending on how long it takes from there.
Speaker 4: But that's apparently when they they break that water, that's
Speaker 4: when it's like, go time.
Speaker 1: Sure, are you ready to have that baby out of you?
Speaker 1: Holy hell?
Speaker 4: Am I over over it?
Speaker 3: You know, Katie, there are there are a number of
Speaker 3: steps in the miracle that is having and raising a
Speaker 3: child where God's plan is so wise. I mean, because
Speaker 3: old birth is no walk in the park, and you
Speaker 3: know that obviously, but I found it fairly easy. Oh boy, wow,
Speaker 3: I have your head on a swivel. Walk into your car.
Speaker 3: All of our women listeners are gonna be here to
Speaker 3: murder you, all the moms anyway. But at the point
Speaker 3: that you're ready to give birth, you're like, I don't care,
Speaker 3: let's get this done. It's like when your kid finally
Speaker 3: leaves the house. You think you'd be heartbroken, but they're
Speaker 3: so sassy. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna cry, but good luck.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh, the amount of people that have told me, you know,
Speaker 4: really enjoy these last couple of weeks because you're gonna
Speaker 4: miss it.
Speaker 1: The hell I am. Wow.
Speaker 4: I've been telling everybody I'm serving him in eviction. Notice
Speaker 4: he's out.
Speaker 1: Wow, viction. Notice that's funny. The time is up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a two year process for that if you're
Speaker 3: having a baby in California. So uh, anyway, well, you know,
Speaker 3: we're super crazy excited for you and happy for you
Speaker 3: and got our fingers crossed and and a lot of
Speaker 3: the folks listening hopes and prayers and fingers crossed as well.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys very much. And you guys, uh,
Speaker 4: you'll be in the on the list the first to
Speaker 4: know what he's here. So I'll be texting you guys shortly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll announce it on the air. Then it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen while we're on the air today. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's my entire goal is to make sure
Speaker 4: that it happens.
Speaker 1: Trying to backtime it to the top of the hour.
Speaker 3: What a trooper. Oh my gosh. Hey, give give our
Speaker 3: best to your mom and pop and stay in touch, all.
Speaker 4: Right, I absolutely will. Thanks guys.
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, Katie, good luck Katie, one big push
Speaker 3: and just shoot him out.
Speaker 4: Michael Michael, all right, looking like a true doctor who
Speaker 4: knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Right on.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah yeah, he chat gpt the all right, thanks Katie.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, wow, I know, such a big deal. Oh,
Speaker 1: impossible to summarize. There's the life before you had a
Speaker 1: kid in the life after you had a kid, and
Speaker 1: they are very different and not including and this is
Speaker 1: the part you just can't possibly know all the changes
Speaker 1: that happen in your brain. I mean, because of course
Speaker 1: you can't know your brain changes. It literally changes neurologically,
Speaker 1: your hormones change, and your brain changes when you have
Speaker 1: a baby. When you have a kid, men and women
Speaker 1: the responsibilities never you look at the world differently. There's
Speaker 1: no understanding that unless you've done it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The fabulous Caitlin Flanagan, who's we mentioned, I guess last
Speaker 3: week she wrote a great piece for the Free Press,
Speaker 3: has another piece out. It was for Mother's Day and
Speaker 3: she was talking about how, you know, the question of
Speaker 3: to have a kid or not at all is a
Speaker 3: thing among young women and she made the joke that women,
Speaker 3: young women are looking at it exactly the way men
Speaker 3: have been telling women to look at things forever logically
Speaker 3: and you know, and the pluses and minuses and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, and that young women never get the it
Speaker 3: is a miracle that will change everything about you in
Speaker 3: so many good ways. Talk it's sound a fashion. It's
Speaker 3: just a dollars and cents convenience. Career, vacation will become difficult.
Speaker 3: I don't get to do things on my schedule anymore.
Speaker 3: It's sounds like a net negative to me.
Speaker 1: You're right, nobody talks up the the part that most
Speaker 1: parents talk about being the greatest thing that ever happened
Speaker 1: in your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you pull say a thousand parents and
Speaker 3: ask him if you could go back again when you
Speaker 3: undo it? Oh god, and look at that teeny tiny number.
Speaker 3: It's like a trial with no defense attorney. All you
Speaker 3: have is the prosecution of the idea of motherhood talking
Speaker 3: about women now, obviously, but the defense never gets to speak.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a weird culture. It's it's partly that
Speaker 3: our media and so many of our idea shapers are
Speaker 3: of a mono culture.
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Speaker 1: I know, like maybe an hour before she's gonna have
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Speaker 1: How long have the really good painkillers for having a
Speaker 1: baby been around.
Speaker 3: Like epidurals and that sort of thing. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a great question, but not that long. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: When was the transition from perfectly sterile, brightly lit operating
Speaker 3: room with gowns and masks and doctors barking orders and.
Speaker 1: The husband that get the hell out of here. You
Speaker 1: can't be with it, you're sit in the waiting room.
Speaker 3: When did that transition to the birthing rooms where you
Speaker 3: know you shouldn't be filthy?
Speaker 1: But in the nineties, I don't know, was it earlier
Speaker 1: in that I don't know. Well, when did they stop?
Speaker 1: I talked about this list, what this This one horrifies
Speaker 1: me for whatever reason because it happened to me. But
Speaker 1: the whole whisking the baby away from mom? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: did they stop doing that? Here's your baby. Everything that
Speaker 1: you know intuitively about nature would be mom, who's going
Speaker 1: to stay with the baby. I'm sure that's the way
Speaker 1: it's been for millionaires. But we're going to take your
Speaker 1: baby away and go put it in a room full
Speaker 1: of screaming babies with bright lights. Right, Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Whose idea was that? And how did it last so long?
Speaker 1: But when did that change? Because they would never do that?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah, we as have made the point
Speaker 3: before America fell in love with science in the twentieth
Speaker 3: century and got way carried away.
Speaker 1: Well that's what people should think about when you say
Speaker 1: trust the science. Trust the science. You used to grab
Speaker 1: a newborn and take it away from their mom. Now
Speaker 1: we've decided, like the best thing you could possibly do
Speaker 1: in their entire lives, Yeah, is handed to mom and
Speaker 1: have it being laying on mom's chest. Trust the nature. Yeah. Kate,
Speaker 1: our oldest, was.
Speaker 3: Born in nineteen ninety two and we had the comfortable,
Speaker 3: nice birthing room.
Speaker 1: We're quite pleased with that.
Speaker 3: And she actually had some significant complications during the birth,
Speaker 3: but the minute they determined she was fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was with mom. Did you ever consider doing
Speaker 1: the hot tub berth? No, you have the baby in
Speaker 1: the hot tub? No.
Speaker 3: I don't really love hot tubs at all, and neither
Speaker 3: is Judy, so.
Speaker 1: She likes some more than I do. We have some
Speaker 1: friends that did the home hot tub birth. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seemed to be funny. Is the kid underwater? When
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's a it's a water birth? They
Speaker 1: called a water birth. Yeah, why, it's some sort of
Speaker 1: it's more natural because that's the way I have IOLs, ma'am.
Speaker 3: The answer is, no, give birth in the air. It's
Speaker 3: not hitting the air, but in air. I think it's
Speaker 3: just hot tubs feel good. So yeah, well there's nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with that. I get light headed in hot tubs
Speaker 3: if they're over you know, like a certain temperature, then
Speaker 3: I'm afraid I'm gonna slip under and drown like a
Speaker 3: Chandler from uh friends from Lightheadedness.
Speaker 1: We start with Katie, they're in the birthing room. When
Speaker 1: we end with don't want to drown like Chandler in
Speaker 1: a hot tub.
Speaker 3: Right right, that's an embarrassing o bit. You don't want
Speaker 3: to die a cave man death, but you don't want
Speaker 3: to die a Hollywood drug addict death either.
Speaker 1: No, you don't tell. Okay, as soon as Katie has
Speaker 1: her baby, she will be calling his back, and I
Speaker 1: doubt it. You don't think we'll never hear from her again? Right? Okay?
Speaker 1: We got more in the waist. They here.
Speaker 7: It's the call of the wild, or maybe just the
Speaker 7: call of nature. But crowds are going bananas for the
Speaker 7: baby boom at the La Zoo.
Speaker 1: So which one's your favorite? I can't say that.
Speaker 7: Megan Fox is the senior animal keeper now in her
Speaker 7: troop five new infant great apes.
Speaker 1: Some of these moms I've known for thirty years.
Speaker 5: To see them with their babies, it's just very special.
Speaker 7: The zoo is now home to a baby gorilla, a
Speaker 7: baby ringetan, and three baby chimpanzees, all born in less
Speaker 7: than five months, all.
Speaker 1: In danger species. First of all, you can't be named
Speaker 1: Megan Fox and be a zookeeper. You gotta change your name.
Speaker 1: You're probably born with that name. But there are famous
Speaker 1: sex spots with that name. Also, she had vocal fry
Speaker 1: Goo a zookeeper have Ah. The monkey was so amazing.
Speaker 1: I have to feed the monkeys la. Is that even
Speaker 1: to work at the La Zoo you have to have
Speaker 1: vocal fry.
Speaker 3: You've gotta be world weary, cynical, you have to have
Speaker 3: ANWI about your apes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's fun. Baby baby beasts. People love baby beasts,
Speaker 1: People love babies in general. That's why we paired that
Speaker 1: with Katie's announcement that she's having a baby any moment.
Speaker 1: We uh, Speaking of cynical, John Stewart pretty cynical about
Speaker 1: the coverage of the freaking hantavirus. People will play a
Speaker 1: little bit from the Daily Show in hour three.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, indeed, a couple of international flavored stories. First
Speaker 3: of all, Wall Street Journal with a piece about this
Speaker 3: ex convict who was conscripted into the Russian forces or
Speaker 3: he might have a volunteered I don't know, in the
Speaker 3: that that recruiting drive where if you did something completely heinous,
Speaker 3: but you're willing to go serve as machine gun fodder
Speaker 3: and Ukraine will let you loose. But so he got
Speaker 3: construct it into the army one way or another, he
Speaker 3: got half blowed up, he's missing part of his right arm,
Speaker 3: has two titanium plates in his head. As they say,
Speaker 3: he might not seem like the best soldier to put
Speaker 3: in the vanguard of a military offensive, but for quite
Speaker 3: a few days last year he was at the tip
Speaker 3: of Russia's spear, trying to pierce Ukraine's defenses in the
Speaker 3: kind of infantry assault that's yielding meager gains and heavy
Speaker 3: losses for Russian troops. And they describe his mission, which
Speaker 3: was just spending human lives like like, I don't know what,
Speaker 3: it's a horrific it's the terrible strategy, incredibly costly to
Speaker 3: gain practically nothing, But they did it over and over
Speaker 3: and over again. They make the point that this guy's
Speaker 3: short stint last year in the vanguard of Russia's army
Speaker 3: offers a glimpse of the tactics of Russia's employing teak
Speaker 3: out battlefield advances in Ukraine, and it's just incredibly expensive
Speaker 3: and feudal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so part of our problem in trying to exert
Speaker 1: deterrence around the world is we don't want to lose
Speaker 1: any soldiers, which is, you know, obviously good. On one hand,
Speaker 1: my brother is in the military and war zones for
Speaker 1: a very long time. But you know, you can't win
Speaker 1: battles without some willingness to risk lives. Sure, but man,
Speaker 1: if we lost, if we lost one hundred guys like
Speaker 1: this weekend in Iran, that would be the It'd be
Speaker 1: the biggest story in America. Russia is losing twenty to
Speaker 1: thirty thousand guys killed or wounded every month. Twenty to
Speaker 1: thirty thousand a month. Wow, that have been four years.
Speaker 3: So they mentioned Putin at the Red Square military parade
Speaker 3: the other day, the Victory Day parade. He reiterated his
Speaker 3: commitment to a Russian victory, but also suggested the war
Speaker 3: was drawing to a close and there are signs that
Speaker 3: his army's methods are losing even their limited effectiveness. Losses
Speaker 3: are so heavy that this fella, who we're talking about,
Speaker 3: a former heroin addict who was jailed on drug charges
Speaker 3: after his pre front line stint and injury, rejoined the
Speaker 3: army in return for freedom after six month service. He said,
Speaker 3: he and many in the Russian armies think the war
Speaker 3: is a deliberate campaign to purge society of those on
Speaker 3: the lowest rungs. Culling the downtrodden, the homeless, and the
Speaker 3: prison population because they they can't figure out why you
Speaker 3: would spend the lives on so little gain unless that's
Speaker 3: the point. Not a bug, it's features, they say. And
Speaker 3: Ukrainian soldiers are baffled by the number of Russians pressing
Speaker 3: forward under fire.
Speaker 1: It's like shooting sitting ducks. God, that's brutal.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? The Ukrainians are saying, what are they doing?
Speaker 3: We're just gonna kill those guys. Here they come again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we'll kill them. Wow. So brutal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has the history of Russian wars, though they've won
Speaker 1: a lot of wars or a lot of battles that way.
Speaker 3: You want something a little more life affirming. How much
Speaker 3: do I love this story? The world's most surprising capitalist
Speaker 3: makeover is underway in Sweden. I read about that, shaking
Speaker 3: up the cradle the grave, huge government, huge spending, huge
Speaker 3: tax system, embracing individual initiative capitalism for.
Speaker 1: You all taxes. Yeah, finally the country that the Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanderses of the world have been thrown at you. Your
Speaker 1: whole life works in Sweden, A tiny, little monochromatic country right,
Speaker 1: and it only works for a while, is the thing
Speaker 1: with socialism. Socialism does work really cool for a little while.
Speaker 1: Problem is it doesn't have legs. Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Today, nearly half of primary healthcare clinics are privately owned.
Speaker 3: One in three public high schools is privately run, up
Speaker 3: from twenty percent in twenty eleven. School operators are listed
Speaker 3: on the Stock Exchange, and they make the point that
Speaker 3: Sweden's experience has lessons good and bad for other rich countries,
Speaker 3: including the US, where Zoron Mumdani is trying to turn
Speaker 3: New York into Sweden. Sweden and the capitalist makeover has
Speaker 3: allowed Sweden to do what few industrialized countries have managed
Speaker 3: in recent years. Hell Ever, shrink the size of the
Speaker 3: state's enabled the government to sharply lower taxes, and economists
Speaker 3: say has sparked a surge in entrepreneurship and economic growth. Wow,
Speaker 3: the free markets better than government control.
Speaker 1: Damn, I wish we'd known that. I wonder how that happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, how did the laying around retire and at
Speaker 1: fifty crowd decide they're willing to embrace the free market,
Speaker 1: which is not as comfortable. We could dig into this more.
Speaker 3: There's quite a bit to be said, but their total
Speaker 3: social spending has fallen to twenty four percent of their
Speaker 3: gross domestic product, which is similar to us. We spend
Speaker 3: about twenty four percent of our GDP on social programs.
Speaker 3: We borrow a lot of it and make our kids
Speaker 3: paid off later or inflate away the debt. But that's
Speaker 3: well below twenty four percent, well below the over thirty
Speaker 3: percent for countries like France and Italy.
Speaker 1: We got this text before we take a break. If
Speaker 1: Katie has her baby before the end of the show,
Speaker 1: I'll eat my husband's truck, a reference to a bet
Speaker 1: I made years ago. My labor was twenty six hours,
Speaker 1: but prayers for all the details for her to hope
Speaker 1: it goes great. Yeah, twenty six hour labor. That was
Speaker 1: like Judy, Oh it was not good. That's a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we got more to come. I hope you
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