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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal hull that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: Dan and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys, girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there in the heart of the Midwest, the epicenter of

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Speaker 1: college football, the one, the only, the incomparable. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I suppose I should use this moment, in this opportunity

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Speaker 2: at the top of the show to report that the

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Speaker 2: Cover three podcast has successfully bought me away from the

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Speaker 2: Solid Verbal at one hundred million dollars over ten years

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Speaker 1: So you know, we had a good run.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I had to do

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Speaker 2: what was right for me and my family.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you work with somebody for thirteen years,

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Speaker 1: you can just sensor restlessness in them when they decide

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it happens. Ty.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's time for a new challenge to build

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Speaker 2: something new and uh, I you know, Chip Patterson has

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Speaker 2: so much more money than I realized, and so I

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Speaker 1: I love Chip. Chip's a good dude. Chip's the best.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, welcome back to the show. Dan is

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm bringing Marcus Freeman with me. It makes sense,

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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: to our discord community. People, of course, are all a

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Speaker 1: flutter this time of year, not just because of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but because of this crazy coaching carousel. Dan, I still

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Speaker 1: have this sound from way back when do you remember

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Speaker 1: We're going to have a make a show today, the

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Speaker 1: first half of which will obviously be devoted to the news,

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Speaker 1: the news of the weird, the news of the coaching world,

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Speaker 1: because there has been a lot of activity in case

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Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff. We're going to cover that first,

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Speaker 1: Well, the Lincoln Riley thing, the Lincoln Riley thing was

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Speaker 2: how old.

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Speaker 2: So that I think comes into play on a certain level.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he had his doubts about that. But at the

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Speaker 2: that bag has not three or four or five or

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Speaker 2: Is my math correct? One hundred million dollars means nine digits.

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Speaker 2: making four, five, six, seven million dollars ten million dollars?

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Speaker 2: million plus? Given whatever the incentives and perks I saw.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's two houses in Norman were purchased by USC

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Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars over asking, So there's your million

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Speaker 1: Talk about through and over your neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian Kelly at all his stops has been very

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Speaker 2: I saw he was likely retaining likely retaining Corey Raymond,

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Speaker 2: So that's a key ability to uh for some continuity

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Speaker 2: Were dealing with their own difficulties both as it relates

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Lynn swan Hire puzzled a lot

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Speaker 2: Mark, You're saying a bet for the next head coach

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, if I'm betting on the next head football coach

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well listen, go to Forballers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Dan Any thoughts on Napier de boor Dykes, Pry Jerry

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Speaker 1: Kill if you want to go there.

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Speaker 2: I'm the experience that Napier has is obviously fascinating. Different conferences,

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Speaker 2: different quality head coaches up to Saban, of course, I

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Speaker 2: like the higher. He's been very successful at Louisiana, not

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Speaker 2: the least of which was convincing everybody to just say Louisiana,

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Speaker 2: it's a Louisiana Lafayette, which is not a I saw

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Speaker 2: somebody tweeting about that. Not a small task. And he's

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Speaker 2: won a ton of games there. He's beaten good teams.

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Speaker 2: He's lost to some good teams, but by and large

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Speaker 2: he has succeeded in a way that you'd like to

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Speaker 2: see a Sun Belt coach succeed in and move on

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Speaker 2: to the next level. Florida should be in good hands.

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Speaker 2: I'm exceedingly curious, of course, to see who he hires,

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Speaker 2: because that's going to be key. And it's not that

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullen didn't put together interesting classes. It's that many

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Speaker 2: people felt that he was leaving talent on the board

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Speaker 2: and being out recruited and outworked by some of the

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Speaker 2: teams Florida competes against. On the field and four recruits,

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Speaker 2: so Billy Napier has a lot of work to do there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good higher I don't know a

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Speaker 2: lot about what he will try to do stylistically on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. I will go back and

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Speaker 2: watch more more rage and Cajun football.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I have no idea of it to

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Speaker 1: work out. I like it though.

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Speaker 2: Kaylen de bor I think is very strong because I

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Speaker 2: think it's a good fit. I think one of the

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Speaker 2: things that he brings because he's he's been a head

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Speaker 2: coach for a long time, going back to his time

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Speaker 2: on much smaller levels, but what he was able to

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Speaker 2: do with the Indiana offensive coordinator, then what he's been

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Speaker 2: able to do at Fresno in developing a former Washington

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Speaker 2: quarterback in Jay Hayner, I think he's I think he's

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Speaker 2: very good. I think one of those it's a situation

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Speaker 2: that we've talked about ty where it's just like before

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Speaker 2: you win, you lose close. Before you win big, you

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Speaker 2: win close. And I think incrementally Kaylin de Boorr will

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Speaker 2: bring quality and professionalism to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I harken back to something that Bruce said. Bruce

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Speaker 1: Fellman when we had him on a week or two ago.

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Speaker 1: But we had talked about the characteristics that are needed

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Speaker 1: at Washington, and he preached a desire for authenticity, desire

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Speaker 1: for being sort of understated. I think Kaitlin de Borr

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Speaker 1: has all that. You know, I don't know him not well,

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Speaker 1: but the little I do, it seems he does have

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Speaker 1: those qualities that Bruce mentioned, and you know, he has

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Speaker 1: been successful ever where he's been. He is kind of

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Speaker 1: perceived as this offensive mastermind as well, and that proof

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Speaker 1: is pretty much in the pudding. So I like the

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Speaker 1: move for Washington. The sunny Dyke's thing at TCU. I

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Speaker 1: saw some folks saying has the ink dried on that yet?

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Speaker 1: Because perhaps Oklahoma is interested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't mentioned the Oklahoma opening, which is a

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Speaker 2: bangor great one, an unbelievable, a plus level head coach

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Speaker 2: opening is in Norman at the moment, and Bob Stoops

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Speaker 2: is the interim coach, which is kind of cool and

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Speaker 2: fun to see. Barry Alvarez memorial. Barry Alvarez, isn't that

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Speaker 2: Barry Alfarez honorary interim coach there? But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Matt Campbell making the move

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Speaker 2: across the conference at least the same conference.

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Speaker 1: For now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be Luke Fickel. I think there

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Speaker 2: are interesting memes.

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Speaker 1: Brand Vanabiz is an interesting name.

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Speaker 2: Brand Venables is one that has come up, for sure,

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Speaker 2: and that makes sense given his history, but not so.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he left on the best of terms,

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Speaker 2: given the success that he had in Oklahoma and seeing

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Speaker 2: deal with Hypel Right, Hypel there was some bad books. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they didn't renew his contract. Lincoln Riley replaces Josh Hipel's

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. I think twenty fifteen, I want to say,

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Speaker 2: was when that move happened. So there's interesting blood to

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Speaker 2: be to be spun and parsed through given some of

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Speaker 2: the candis. But I think both of those guys, I mean,

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Speaker 2: especially Venables, given how long he's been at Clemson and

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Speaker 2: how great a job he's done there. Yeah, I think,

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Speaker 2: and given where he's from in that footprint, I think

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Speaker 2: it would be a terrific higher. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: they're going, but I know that Joe Costiglion that the

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Speaker 2: AD is well regarded and.

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Speaker 1: He will get something done pretty quickly. Sonny Dyke's TCU.

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Speaker 1: We knew that was going to happen. It seems like

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Speaker 1: a very good fit for him, given his familiarity with

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Speaker 1: the area, high floor, medium ceiling. To me, pry thing,

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Speaker 1: I'll just come back to it again, mm hmm. Has

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Speaker 1: done a really good job building defense for Penn State

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Speaker 1: for the last five years and has done a good

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Speaker 1: job on the recruiting trail. He will build out a

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Speaker 1: good staff and I think Virginia tech people will really

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Speaker 1: like him. I mean, he's a good fit culturally for

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Speaker 1: that spot. So yeah, from Altuona, you know, not all

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Speaker 1: that different from being in you know, Western slash central Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for Oklahoma to hire a new coach and

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Speaker 2: whoever Notre Dame to hire a new coach maybe seven

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Speaker 2: minutes after week and after we end the show.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll do We'll do an emergency you know.

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Speaker 2: We like doing these emergency like audio video stream podcast

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Speaker 2: stuff and they've been fun and obviously the full audio

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Speaker 2: replays of those have gone exclusively to our Patreon subscribers

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Speaker 2: on Forballers dot Com any anything else news wise.

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Speaker 1: News wise, Duke is parting ways with David Cutcliff Indiana

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Speaker 1: has fired Nick Sheridan, their offensive coordinator. Also, Tom Allen

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Speaker 1: agree to a two hundred thousand dollars pay cut for

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Speaker 1: the next three seasons. He does have a contract through

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Georgia Tech has fired their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: their co defensive coordinator, and their cornerbacks coach. And Colorado

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Speaker 1: has fired their offensive coordinator after the worst offensive season

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Speaker 1: they've ever had at least since nineteen sixty four. Dino

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Speaker 1: Baber's coming back for season number seven at Syracuse and

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Speaker 1: not on the coaching trail, but Tanner Morgan has decided

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Speaker 1: he is coming back for a sixth season as Minnesota quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I will also mention just because this is a very

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Speaker 2: active time in the portal, just in terms of big names.

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Speaker 2: Eli Rix, all American caliber corner at LSU entered the portal.

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Speaker 2: I believe he's from southern California. Jamiir Gibbs Georgia Tech

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Speaker 2: is going to be a very good running back. I've

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Speaker 2: talked about liking him for his couple of years there.

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Speaker 2: He has entered the portal. Zach Evans, former five star

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Speaker 2: running back at TCU. Spencer Ratler a large name in

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Speaker 2: college football. He has entered the portal. Dylan Gabriel at SEEF.

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Speaker 2: There's already been a lot of old miss smoke given

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Speaker 2: his connection to offensive coordinator Jeff Levy, Marcus Banks Corner

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Speaker 2: at Alabama, Tyan Evans, who really flashed for Tennessee at

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Speaker 2: running back I saw Jalen Berger has already committed to

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Speaker 2: Michigan State from Wisconsin. But in terms of big names,

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Speaker 2: Miles Brennan at LSU as well has entered the portal.

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Speaker 2: That was I think a week or two ago we

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Speaker 2: talked about I think Micah Pittman a bit a former

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Speaker 2: four star receiver at Oregon. So big names in the

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Speaker 2: portal more to come, and especially with these coaching changes,

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Speaker 2: there are going to be decommitments, They're going to be transfers,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to see a lot of new look teams,

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Speaker 2: as I think is the new normal in college football.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So look, we will have another show on Friday,

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Speaker 1: where again we're going to try and to cipher the news.

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Speaker 1: There will be other news stories that break. Yeah, college

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Speaker 1: football could expand its playoff tomorrow slash today as people

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Speaker 1: are listening to this show. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: as much news as we can on Friday to bring

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Speaker 1: you as up the speed as we can. I realize

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Speaker 1: we're zooming through it here. As always, you can go

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Speaker 1: on out to a YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash

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Speaker 1: the solid verbal. Yeah. And if there are big stories

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Speaker 1: like Lincoln Riley leaving, like Brian Kelly leaving, like Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame hiring a coach, maybe Oklahoma hiring a coach, any

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Speaker 1: of these big time things, we're just flipping on the

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Speaker 1: camera and going live. And then as you said, we

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Speaker 1: put that audio available for our Patreon subscribers, averbowlers dot com. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As I'm receiving texts right now from Jeff Schwartz with

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Speaker 2: the plays he expects Oregon to both run and counter

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Speaker 2: Utah with, I will not be sharing them. But that's

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Speaker 2: a nice little transition as I as I see my

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Speaker 2: text going crazy.

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Speaker 1: DA time to help any of the week, Dan, I've

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Speaker 1: got it to show your cards Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, now I actually am now forgetting what I had.

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Speaker 2: It's something like that. It was It wasn't sack up Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It was something something in that book. Show your cards.

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Speaker 1: If you're Brian Kelly, if you're Link of Riley, show

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Speaker 1: us what you got? Well, even hiding, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they'll be coaching. They weren't gonna be coaching anyway this week.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, show your cards. Brian Kelly flipped it over.

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Speaker 1: You had three jokers. Okay, yep, no big deal. If

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Speaker 1: your Oregon, if you're Utah, what do you got? Man?

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Speaker 1: What do you got? If you're Oklahoma State, big game,

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Speaker 1: could probably make the playoff. What are you holding? Yeah? Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: put up her, shut up.

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of second chance Saturday is where

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Speaker 2: I would go. I think second chance Saturday, right, Oregon

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Speaker 2: has a shot Georgia to be able to finally get

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Speaker 2: one in over Alabama. You know, Stetson Bennett had such

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Speaker 2: a bad game, bad second half against Alabama last year.

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Speaker 2: So second chance Saturday. But I like yours better. Yours

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Speaker 2: is more fraught with emotion.

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Speaker 1: We are going to do our part here to get

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Speaker 1: through all these games. Yeah, let's start on Friday. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna going in reverse order. Starting on Friday, We're

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Speaker 1: starting with a PAC twelve championship game eight pm ABC.

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Speaker 1: Your Oregon Ducks ten and two scaring off in a

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Speaker 1: rematch against the utah Utes, who are nine and three.

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Speaker 1: Utah is favored by three points. So they played this

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Speaker 1: game two weeks ago. Oregon lost by thirty one. They

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Speaker 1: got run off the field. Utah had over two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards on the ground and they contained that Mario Crystal

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Speaker 1: ball guerrilla ball that you love. They contained it just

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Speaker 1: sixty three yards on the ground for the Oregon Ducks.

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Speaker 1: This was a game that was that was over by halftime.

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Speaker 1: So I do have some questions for you, mister platypus cup.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a bunch of questions. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to have them answered immediately, and it's really just

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Speaker 1: one big question. Yeah, what if anything has happened in

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks that should make me feel any

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Speaker 1: differently about Oregon going into this game, Like are guys

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Speaker 1: getting healthy that have been hurt? Did we did? Did

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Speaker 1: you did, Jeff? Did anybody see something in the Oregon

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Speaker 1: State game or maybe when Utah played Colorado or going

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Speaker 1: back over the Utah Oregon tape, like give me something

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Speaker 1: to grasp onto here to talk me out of picking

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Speaker 1: Utah minus whatever, because I feel pretty strongly with what

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Speaker 1: I saw that first time around, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if a lot's happened since then. That would make me

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Speaker 1: feel otherwise.

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Speaker 2: I will say Oregon is in a better position given

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Speaker 2: the nature by which they lost that game, which was

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Speaker 2: essentially doing nothing successfully. So Utah doesn't have a clue

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Speaker 2: about how Oregon will attack Utah successfully. So they were sandbagging,

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Speaker 2: whereas Oregon knows exactly what Utah did on both sides

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Speaker 2: of the ball to dominate the Ducks. So in a

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Speaker 2: very backward way, advantage Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that that's my Galaxy brain. My Galaxy brain thinking

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Speaker 2: is Oregon didn't do anything successfully. They made a bunch

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Speaker 2: of mistakes. They were undisciplined, committing penalties, bad third down throws,

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Speaker 2: couldn't get off the field on defense. So the onus

649
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: is on Oregon to make those adjustments, and so in

650
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: a way, Oregon is more mysterious. Now, Utah would beat

651
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: them the exact same way they beat them the first time.

652
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: You're right, they could win this game thirty five to

653
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: thirteen in very similar fashion, forcing mistakes, keeping the ball

654
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: and sitting on the ball the way that they did,

655
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: making big special teams plays. I don't know what Oregon

656
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: has done in the last two weeks. You're absolutely right,

657
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown, hasn't necessarily, I mean, he hasn't played a

658
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: good team to correct those mistakes, and organ's not healthy.

659
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean they're healthier. I think on the offensive line,

660
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: there's a guard who I think is going to be

661
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: play in this game that played against Oregon State and

662
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't think played a lot against against Utah a

663
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: couple weeks ago. But I think it's also there are

664
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: rumors about Joe Morehead leaving going to what Akron is

665
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: where the rumor is, So it's just throw everything at

666
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: Utah if this is his last game. It's it's your

667
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: you're unloading, you are emptying the clip? Is that the

668
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: term emptying the clip?

669
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

670
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: So opening up the playbook. So I suppose that's the

671
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: case that Oregon has the ability to adjust in more

672
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: mysterious ways than Utah does. I guess that's it. And

673
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can correct the discipline issues.

674
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: Utah showed its hand, so it's show your hands hotter you.

675
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Utah showed its hand about how to best prepare for

676
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: and execute against Oregon, So it either is going to

677
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: repeat that or has to go to its backup hand, right,

678
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's it's you know what it is, Ty,

679
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: It's a stay on, get off game because these teams

680
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: are not going to win with explosive offenses. So it's

681
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: converting third and threes, third and sevens. It's getting off

682
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: the field on third and three and third and sevens.

683
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: Right now, Utah is definitely the team better equipped to

684
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: do that.

685
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh well, and look at the game that they just played,

686
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, Like so I'm confident that this is going

687
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: to be closer than okay, the first time around, which

688
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: is insane, and it's away from Salt Lake. It's away

689
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: from it's away from Yeah, it was a thirty one

690
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: point blowout last time around. I don't think that's gonna

691
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: happen again. But I'm also not blind to the fact

692
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: that the blowout we saw was not like on a

693
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: knife's edge. You know. There are some blowouts that hinge

694
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: on two or three plays, yep, And without those moments,

695
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot closer. That was not

696
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: the case. When Oregon and Utah played last time around

697
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: again only two weeks ago, Utah dominated them. Man. It

698
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, in time of possession on third downs,

699
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: they converted almost eighty percent of their third downs in

700
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: that game. And they just bullied Oregon in the Running Game.

701
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess that could have been a fluky

702
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: game in some sense, maybe because of the intensity of

703
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: playing in Rice Echos and Salt Lake. But I have

704
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: not seen anything since then that would make me want

705
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: to pick Oregon again. I tried that once. It did

706
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: not work. I'm going Utah this time around. Man. I again,

707
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: maybe playing in Vegae, maybe that upsets the balance of

708
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: the force here and that's going to take some of

709
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: the heat off of Utah.

710
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: But well, why do you believe? And it's the old adage,

711
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: it's the old cliche. It's tough to beat a team twice, right,

712
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: twice until it is so three weeks. Why is it tough.

713
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: It's tough because of the show your cards element. Right,

714
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: It's tough.

715
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Because you've seen them once now you know their tendencies

716
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: heads up and you can alter your game plan accordingly.

717
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: So okay, that's why I think it's going to be closer.

718
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: But if Utah plays the same style of football, and

719
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that they won't. They've been

720
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: doing it the whole back half of the year rather successfully, right,

721
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: I've got the utes in a closer one. I think

722
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: it's something like thirty one twenty four. I think Utah

723
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: is a better team based on what we saw two

724
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago. So I'm going you to minus the number.

725
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: My heart says Oregon, in my head says Utah. I'm

726
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: going to say Utah twenty eight twenty four, just because

727
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: I think they're specifically built more dependably than Oregon is.

728
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: But I hesitate. I hesitate, and I really do think

729
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: there's something to my dumb galaxy brain idea that Oregon

730
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: has a much bigger self scouting advantage in this matchup.

731
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: So all right, my heart does say Oregon, but I'm

732
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: if I'm making my official pick, I'm gonna say what's

733
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: the spread right now? Because I have ute one by four? Okay,

734
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: so I have view top barely covering.

735
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Doctor Pepper Big twelve championship game

736
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: at high noon on Saturday. This one also on ABC.

737
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: It's between Baylor ten and two and Oklahoma State eleven

738
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: and one. Oklahoma State favored by five and a half points.

739
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: You're over under here is forty six and a half

740
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: like an NFL game. Oh I didn't even look, but okay, interesting. Yeah,

741
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: my final score is right there. Yep, got another rematch here.

742
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: These two teams played back on October the second in Stillwater,

743
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: and the Pokes won that game by ten, twenty four

744
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: to fourteen. At the time, it was Baylor's first loss.

745
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Impressively about that game, Dan, Oklahoma State won despite throwing

746
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: three picks, and you know, like most of the big

747
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: Pokes win we've seen this season, this game was a

748
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: testament to their defense. Baylor had thirteen drives in that game.

749
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: I went through all of them. Only four lasted longer

750
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: than five plays. So this was again a Pokes defense

751
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: that by and large ket Baylor at Bay. Baylor didn't

752
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: do anything. M hmm. Gary Bohanon was running for his

753
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: life all game. The offense as a hole for Baylor

754
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: was held just under three hundred yards. So I have

755
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: many thoughts on this game. Frankly, I went back and

756
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: forth a million times. Do you have a lean here?

757
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Oklahoma State winning by ten points. I

758
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: have Oklahoma State winning thirty one, twenty one, thirty one

759
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: to twenty thirty to twenty somewhere in there. So I

760
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: guess I like the over a little bit. You said

761
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: it was forty six and a half forty six and

762
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, yeah, So I think I like the

763
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: over a little bit because I don't think Spencer Sanders

764
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: is going to be as bad. It's certainly a letdown

765
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: spot situationally for Oklahoma State, but they are not looking

766
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: past Baylor in the Big Twelve championship game. I think

767
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State going against either Blake Shapen or a hobbled

768
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Gary Bohan, and I believe it's his right leg, so

769
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: that's what he's planting on or trying to scramble. Is

770
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: it's tricky with a beat up. I think it's his

771
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: hamstring that's hurt. Yep, it's just that becomes trickier against

772
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: the defense this good. I don't like either a green

773
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: or wounded quarterback against an excellent defense. So I'm taking

774
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State here to generate a couple of short fields,

775
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: maybe a couple of turnovers, and win this game by

776
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: ten points on a neutral site.

777
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: I think a couple things can be true at the

778
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: same time, definitely, And let me start with Spencer Sanders.

779
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know this will make me sound like

780
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: an idiot, perhaps even a jerk, perhaps even a word

781
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: that rhymes with the ick. Yeah, well you just spelled

782
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: the word. The version of Spencer Sanders that we saw

783
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: on Saturday night is not the same quarterback that I

784
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: am used, Okay, that I have seen that we have

785
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: seen for the last three years. It was a great

786
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: performance by him. Sure, I kind of think the Bedlam

787
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: game was a fluke, not for Oklahoma State. I'm talking

788
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: for hepsifically, specifically for Spencer Sanders. We have seen so

789
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: much more of the other version of Spencer Sanders, the

790
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: inconsistent Spencer Sanders, over the course of his three years

791
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: now for Oklahoma State. I don't know if we see

792
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: three picks again like we did the first time against Baylor,

793
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: but I'd be surprised if we saw the same sort

794
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: of tour de force that we saw against Oklahoma. That's

795
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: just not who he is. So it's a good game,

796
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and I hope for his sake that does it again.

797
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, sure, but I'll believe it when

798
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: I see it. That's a first thing. The second thing

799
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: is with regard to this game, you mentioned Gary Bohannon

800
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: in the hamstring. I think he was questionable last week.

801
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: They decided not to play him. There's no reason to

802
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: play him if he doesn't play in this game. I'm

803
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: heavy on Oklahoma State, and that's no disrespect to Blake

804
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: Shape and who's looked pretty good all things since. But

805
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: I don't love the possibility of a green quarterback going

806
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: up against Jim Knowles, who's just going to bring him

807
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: in waves right. It's not a good situation for Gary Bohannon,

808
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: who's got a bum wheel at the moment. It's definitely

809
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: not a good situation for a new starting quarterback that's

810
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: two three. Oklahoma State has quietly gotten better on offense,

811
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: and if you look at the numbers their offensive efficiency,

812
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: it's still just average, but it is getting better. It's

813
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: still not a big play offense. I do think it

814
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: is important to note, though, that they're young wide receivers

815
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: that we've talked about all year have grown up have

816
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 1: been presenting more of a threat in recent weeks, much

817
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: more so than they did back in October when these

818
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: teams played. I think bail will be up for the challenge.

819
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: But it is one of those things that if we

820
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: talked about the Oregon Utah thing, like what's changed, this

821
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: is something that has changed for the better for Oklahoma

822
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: State over the last two months that could potentially affect

823
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: the outcome here. Ultimately, I go Baylor plus the points.

824
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma State wins, but I think it's close.

825
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: I think Baylor is a big game team in the

826
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: same way that we thought Oregon was the Glory Boys

827
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: team of the year. Okay, I think Baylor will be

828
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: up for a big game here. I am also a

829
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: little bit worried about that letdown effect that you mentioned earlier. Sure,

830
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: not that they should be looking past Baylor here. I

831
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, my gun, you'll have him up, but there's

832
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: a letdown whenever you beat your rival. We got guys

833
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: coming on the you know, people coming on the field here.

834
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: So it's close, it's low scoring. I'd go under. I

835
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: think it's a defensive war. Oklahoma State wins twenty three

836
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: to twenty one.

837
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the underthink. Express Captain Engineer would say

838
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Spencer Sanders arguably had his worst game of the season

839
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: in a winning effort against Baylor. And if we believe

840
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: him to be closer to an average Spencer Sanders performance

841
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: against Baylor, whatever it is, two touchdown throws and six

842
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: yards eight yards per attempt and maybe throws a pick,

843
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: I think they're good place. I think Oklahoma State still

844
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: is the quarterback and defensive combination advantage. So if they

845
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: win their an that's my underthinking.

846
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they win, If they win, they're in, I think,

847
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: especially so because of the turmoil right now at Notre Dame. No,

848
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: if they win, they're not necessarily you think they're in

849
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: over Cincinnati. If they win, and if Georgia wins, Okay,

850
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: thank you, there's the Yeah, let's go to that game.

851
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to the SEC championship game next. Yeah, four PMCBS,

852
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Alabama eleven and one, Georgia twelve and oh Georgia favored

853
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: by six and a half points, you're over under here

854
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: fifty one. They play this one in Mercedes Benz Stadium

855
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So this is a bigin right, This is

856
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: this is master versus apprentice, This is whatever crazy labeling

857
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: you want to put on it. This is sort of

858
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: all of that and a ball Whacks coaches have met

859
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: three times Nick Saban's three and zero. He's won each

860
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: of those games by increasing margins of three points, seven points,

861
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: and most recently, seventeen points. Frankly speaking, with all of

862
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the chaos this season, it is sort of a small

863
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: wonder that both teams made it through. Cause true, we've

864
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: been talking about it all year, like it seemed as

865
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: if they would be on a collision course. Alabama has

866
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: had a few thinner than expected w's, But the fact

867
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: that they made it through, maybe I'm in the minority here.

868
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thrilled that they made it through and

869
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: that we get this game. I am not going to

870
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: play the sound because I want to ask you a

871
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: personal question. Oh, I'm ready, let's do it. Let's get weird.

872
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: How do you feel personally? Just Dan Rubinstein, inside that

873
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: inside that bean of yours, huh about Alabama getting nearly

874
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: a touchdown in this game? Seduced the Is that a

875
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: good answer to you? Good answer, Dan.

876
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: It's enticing, It's absolutely enticing. And I don't let me

877
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: relook at what I wrote down is what my final

878
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: score is. Yeah, I'm gonna take the points. I'm gonna

879
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: take those points.

880
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: It's two.

881
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: I am I'm a romantic tie. I am too, I

882
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: ting like we all do tie. I'm gonna take the points.

883
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I think Georgia wins this game.

884
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Now.

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: The thing that I love about Georgia is they haven't

886
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: had a scare. You want to eliminate the Clemson game.

887
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: They haven't had a scare. The closest the team got

888
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: was and that was what Kentucky and garbage time getting

889
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: to seventeen points exactly as exactly a difference thirty to

890
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: thirteen if my math holds up. So I love when

891
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: teams are able to separate consistently. And the fact is,

892
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: Georgia scores points and they have the best defense that

893
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: college football has seen in ten plus years since maybe

894
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: that twenty eleven Alabama defense, which we still have to

895
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: hold in high regard because Georgia hasn't finished things out yet.

896
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: But if they finish things out and shut out a

897
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: team in the National Championship like that Alabama team did, yeah,

898
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: so I can just count on Georgia more. Stetson Bennett

899
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: has been phenomenal for this team. He's had a couple

900
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 2: of down quarters or moments or throws he'd like back,

901
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: but he has been as good as any quarterback in

902
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: the country by and large playing winning football. I am

903
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: gonna take Georgia here to get a bunch of stops.

904
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: Probably have a down quarter at a certain point, a

905
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: down second or third quarter. Maybe Alabama storms back late

906
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: to make it interesting. But what Alabama has and hasn't

907
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: done these past few weeks scares me. The close quality

908
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: of the Arkansas game, the close quality of the LSU game,

909
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: the close quality of the Auburn game. Georgia beat Auburn

910
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: by twenty four on the road.

911
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Is that my number? Is that what I'm looking at? Here?

912
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeap Alabama in four overtimes? I think it was four.

913
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: So I'm going Georgia here, thirty one to twenty SI.

914
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young is enough of a wild card

915
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: that he will make plays against this Georgia defense. And

916
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what the health of Georgia receivers is

917
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: at this moment. I know they're hopeful to get healthier there,

918
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: which certainly would add a certain amount of calculus to

919
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: this matchup. But I just Georgia does it more for me,

920
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: if you're gonna ask me that personal question. And I

921
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: am able to depend on Georgia Moore, that defense coming

922
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: at teams in waves, the depth there, the aggression there,

923
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: the coaching there. I think this is Georgia's moment. Thirty

924
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: one to twenty seven dogs.

925
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: Georgia, as you said, has not giving up more than

926
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: seventeen points all season, and it is truly at the

927
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: point where we've run out of superlatives to describe the defense.

928
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: It's one of the all time greats. You can say

929
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: that objectively. This will be a tough test for them

930
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: because Bama is far and away the best offense they've

931
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: seen all year. I love categorizing Bryce Young as wild card.

932
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: I think that's accurate. Yeah, I think that's accurate, and

933
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I do think he'll make plays against this Georgia defense.

934
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: All be at a very good defense, maybe maybe they all

935
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: time best. I also want to call out that this

936
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: will be a real test for the Georgia offense. The

937
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: Georgia offense has been overshadowed by the defense because the

938
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: defense have been so good. But the offense is also

939
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: crazy efficient. Maybe it's not as sexy, but it's crazy efficient,

940
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: and it's been really good under stets In Bennett. But

941
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: this is going to be a tough test. You know,

942
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: they've played some good defenses, but nothing to the degree

943
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: of Alabama.

944
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: Have they though, Like, who is the best defense they've

945
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: played since Clemson, Auburn, Kentucky? Yeah, I mean Kentucky's defense

946
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: hasn't been Arkansas or has it.

947
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are all.

948
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: They're all fine, but they don't I mean in terms

949
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: of a defense built on the level of where Alabama's is,

950
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: especially upfront.

951
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: And so my only point here is that it's going

952
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: to be a test for him. It's going to be

953
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: a test for them to go up against Alabama. The

954
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Alabama defense is not as bulletproof as usual, but they

955
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: got Will and Anderson and per the sp plus they're

956
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: eleventh overall in the nation. It's pre damn good. And

957
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the matchup I'm watching most closely because

958
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: if you go back to what happened last year, stets

959
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: And Bennett had three picks in that game against Alabama.

960
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: He was eighteen of forty. He didn't really run all

961
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: that well. Stets and Bennet's got a lot better. Were

962
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: they up at halftime? Was Georgia up at halftime? In

963
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: that game? It was a close game the whole way through.

964
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: Bama broke late. I think stets and benn is really

965
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: good this year. But it's just something to consider. You know,

966
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: the passes prologue and we could use that as some

967
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: sort of indicator here perhaps as to which direction this

968
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: game goes different teams right different circumstances. I think I

969
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: agree with you. This is a close game. I don't

970
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: think quite as much scoring as you've had, what thirty

971
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: thirty one.

972
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: Thirty one, twenty seven? Yeah, by the way, Georgia was

973
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: up at halftime, yeah before twenty last year.

974
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is a close game. I think

975
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: it's led by defense. I think it's decided by special teams.

976
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I think it's decided between Brock Bauers and Jamison Williams,

977
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: whoever can impact the game more. I think it's twenty

978
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: four to twenty. I think it's close. I think it's

979
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: a nail brighter. I got Georgia winning, but not covering

980
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: that six and a half Bama getting six and a

981
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: half points? Are you kidding me? Even if it's the

982
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: wrong decision, I would probably make it one hundred times

983
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: out of one hundred with Bama getting six and a

984
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: half points.

985
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: It's very strange to see or to be in a

986
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: place where we both find it difficult to believe that

987
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: Alabama can win a huge game.

988
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: That's wild. Let's move on to the American Athletic Conference

989
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Championship game. Dan, Okay, I'm ready. It's been a while

990
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: since we included this game among the other Power fives,

991
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: but there's a reason for that because of Cincinnati HM

992
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: also at four pm this one on ABC Houston eleven

993
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: and one, Cincinnati twelve and oh. Cincinnati favored by eleven points.

994
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: The only lost between these two teams was Houston losing

995
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: to Texas Tech all the way back in Week one.

996
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: Otherwise they've handled everyone else pretty easily outside of a

997
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: few speed bumps. Right, these teams did not play during

998
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the regular season, but they did play in November of

999
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: last year. Cincinnati drilled them by twenty eight and that

1000
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: game was not close. Cincinnati ran for gosh like three

1001
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: fifty and four touchdowns, just not close. Yep. To be

1002
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: fair to Houston, they've come a long way on defense.

1003
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: They were sixty seventh last year in sp plus. This

1004
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: year they moved up fifty two spots to number fifteen.

1005
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Doug Belk their defensive coordinator. They gave him full control

1006
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: of the defense at the start of the year and

1007
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: he's done a really good job. Houston has generated a

1008
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: ton of pressure this year, most importantly without having to blitz,

1009
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: which is always a good formula, especially when you go

1010
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: up against a mobile guy like Desretter. I think their

1011
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: defense is good enough to keep this one within reach.

1012
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: Which my question for you is for how long? I

1013
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: want to ask you, Yeah, that's a fair question. For

1014
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: how long is the sticking point to me? Right? Because

1015
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: as I often do, you got to quote the wise

1016
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: profit Ashanti, it's about trust, babe, Yeah, about trust babe.

1017
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: How much do we trust that Houston can keep this close? For?

1018
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: How long can they do it? And if they're close,

1019
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: can they get the dub?

1020
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati is a way better team than Houston.

1021
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: I think Houston has beat up on a lot of

1022
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 2: bad teams, and I don't trust them. I don't trust

1023
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: this offense. I think the offense is inconsistent. They get

1024
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: off the field too much. You know, they go three

1025
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: and out far too often. For me, I want a

1026
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: much more dependable offense against the Cincinnati defense and the

1027
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: Cincinnati offense. Frankly, that's been coming on strong of late.

1028
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 2: I have Cincinnati winning this game by two touchdowns thirty

1029
00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: four to twenty. I agree, Yeah, I think Cincinnati's right

1030
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: and the game is a it's a it's a true

1031
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: home game.

1032
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: It's in Nippert, It's in Nippert stadium.

1033
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Cincinnati it's going to be an

1034
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: electric atmosphere. I think I think it could be thirty

1035
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: four to thirteen, and we got a thirty four to

1036
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 2: twenty at the end. Like, I think Cincinnati will comfortably

1037
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: win this game. I think they're going to force turnovers.

1038
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: Clayton Tuon is good and has had some really good moments,

1039
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: but he's thrown i think eight picks this year. So yeah,

1040
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: I think I think it's going to open up relatively early.

1041
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm on Cincinnati here as well, And yeah, I don't

1042
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: trust that Houston is going to be able to keep

1043
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: up since he's playing at home with a playoff bit

1044
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: on the line. And while there have been curious moments

1045
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati this year, it hasn't been in the biggest

1046
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: games on the schedule. It certainly wasn't against Notre Dame.

1047
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't against SMU, even to some extent against ECU

1048
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: last week, right with finally getting into that top four,

1049
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: they killed him. Thirty five to thirteen. Wasn't a close game.

1050
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: I am in on Cincinnati here. They are taking care

1051
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: of business at home, even though it kind of pains

1052
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: me because it might slam the door on Notre Dame

1053
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: making it through. What kind of hypocrite would I be? Dan?

1054
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: If I preached here at this lectern of chaos for

1055
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: thirteen fricking years and then rooted against a group of

1056
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: five team when they had a legit chance of actually

1057
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: making it through, I agree, what kind of hypocrite would

1058
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: I be? How could I look myself in the mirror?

1059
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm asking, No, I don't know if you could. Yeah.

1060
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: I When I look at a team that can beat Cincinnati,

1061
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: I want somebody who has gravitational receivers plural, and a

1062
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: quarterback who is nails downfield and a fearlessness to him

1063
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: that I think Layton Tune is good. But I'm going

1064
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: with what I think I can depend on more, which

1065
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: is Cincinnati's I think they're gonna overwhelm the Houston offensive line.

1066
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: Houston has given up far too many sacks. I think

1067
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati is going to be living in that.

1068
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Backfield since he wins forty one to twenty four, they

1069
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: make it through to the playoff, Let's e F and

1070
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: go Let's f and go Bearcats away. Let's go to

1071
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: the ACC Championship game eight pm ABC. So many of

1072
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: these games on ABC this weekend Charlotte in Charlotte Bank

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: of America Stadium, Pit ten and two. Wake Forest ten

1074
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: and two Panthers are favored by three points. You're over

1075
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: under is seventy two and a half. Dan they didn't

1076
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: play this year. Pitt's two losses were by a combined

1077
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: seven points, both at home, one back in Week three

1078
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: to Western Michigan, the other two Tyler VANDIM back at

1079
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: the end of October. Wake's losses one was a quote

1080
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: unquote non conference game against North Carolina and the other

1081
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: was on the road at Clemson. First things, first block

1082
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: of the week. I don't take a lot of overs

1083
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: is my lock of the week. But when I do,

1084
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: it's in the ACC Championship game. Yeah, this is gonna

1085
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: be fun as hell. A ton of points are going

1086
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: to be on the menu. We've got ourselves an old

1087
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: fashioned shoot out here. I'm not going to play this

1088
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: sound because it'll blow your ear drums out. Maybe on

1089
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: the recap show. Yeah, take the over seventy two and

1090
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: a half and you can thank me on Sunday morning. Okay,

1091
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: that's the first go. That's a big number. Yeah. Secondly,

1092
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: I expect not only a ton of points, but a

1093
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: lot of big plays here. If you're Kenny Pickett, if

1094
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: you're looking at this defense, are you not looking at

1095
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: game tape and saying, dude, I'm gonna take some six

1096
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: well done, like you might be thinking you could win

1097
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: the Heisman solely on the back of a performance here,

1098
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: because nobody knows who's gonna win the Heisman this year.

1099
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: I think this is an active game downfield for Kenny Pickett,

1100
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: for Jordan Addison. Jordan Adison might get twenty five catches

1101
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: in this game, Okay. I think Sam Hartman, the Heartbreak Kid,

1102
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: is also going to eat well against this pass defense.

1103
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: For Pitt. Yeah, Pitt plays good defense, not always in

1104
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: the passing game, and this is a low key home

1105
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: game for him. It's like an hour away from Charlotte.

1106
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: I have no idea who's winning this game. I really

1107
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I don't care. I think this

1108
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: could be a hell of fun game to watch. And

1109
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: if I'm forced to pick Hell, yeah, let's go Wake Forest.

1110
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: You just you you just said that, Okay, I just

1111
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: just said so many nice things about Pitt and then

1112
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: took Wake.

1113
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm taking Awake, so wow.

1114
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: I was an ephis and you said lock of the

1115
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: Oh you said Lock of the week is the over.

1116
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going pit here. Yeah. I like Pitt here. Yeah.

1117
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: I think in a in a game that we expect

1118
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: a ton of points, it's and maybe it's similar to

1119
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: what we saw with the Bedlam game. It's like, Okay,

1120
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: who's more likely to get more stops?

1121
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: And to me it's Pitt. To me it's Pitt.

1122
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: With the pass rush, I know, I know they can

1123
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: be had through the air, and we saw what was it,

1124
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: Brendan R. I'm strong a little while ago that was

1125
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: eighty six combined points, forty eight thirty eight. I think

1126
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: it's going to be something like that.

1127
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: I have it.

1128
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Let me see what I wrote down in my prep.

1129
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: It's a little less. I have thirty eight thirty one pit.

1130
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: I think you're right about the what's thirty eight plus

1131
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: thirty one sixty nine?

1132
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: Nice? Oh?

1133
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: So I have under here. Wow, I'm going against your lock.

1134
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: I think it'll be fourteen all early in the second

1135
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: quarter something like that. We're like, all right, here we go.

1136
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: And I think in the middle of the game things

1137
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: slow down a bit before some scoring in the fourth quarter.

1138
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: So I have pit by a touchdown here, but I

1139
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: think there will definitely be offensive fireworks. But yeah, Wakes

1140
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: defense is the clear worst thing in this game, and

1141
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: so especially at the end of a game, I just

1142
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: I can't if I'm getting Kenny Pickett against an undependable defense.

1143
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that a word? Undependable? Sure, I'm going pit

1144
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: here by a touchdown. Let's head on over to the

1145
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: Big Ten Game of the Week, presented by our good

1146
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: friends over at DraftKings Dan's. It's the Big Ten Championship

1147
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: game eight pm on Fox, Michigan eleven to one, Iowa

1148
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: ten and two. Michigan favored by eleven and a half points.

1149
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: It's a big number. It's a big number. They play

1150
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: it in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium, so his teams

1151
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: didn't play during the regular season. They've only played twice

1152
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: in the Jim Harbaugh era. In twenty nineteen, Michigan won

1153
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: ten to three. I remember in twenty sixteen Iowa won

1154
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: fourteen thirteen mm hm. So two games over five years

1155
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: maybe not enough for a trend. But if I told

1156
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: you on Sunday morning we'd be talking about a seventeen

1157
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: to fourteen game, that wouldn't at all be a fantastical,

1158
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: unbelievable notion, would it. No, that would surprise me. That

1159
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: would surprise me. Really why.

1160
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: I think Michigan can score more points than seventeen against Iowa,

1161
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: and it would surprise me if they're held either to

1162
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: seventeen or fourteen points.

1163
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Wow, what's your pick?

1164
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: I have Michigan comfortably. If you like Michigan, I think

1165
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: you have to say to yourself, Okay, the offense seems

1166
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: to be in good hands and where Iowa is lacking

1167
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: this year. The tackles on offense, the ends of their

1168
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: offensive line are not where they've been these past few years.

1169
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: Linderbaum or whatever his name is, the center excellent, absolutely excellent.

1170
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: I think Michigan's gonna eat on defense. They're going to

1171
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: force third and longs, which is a nightmare scenario for

1172
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: Iowa that they're not going to be able to convert.

1173
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't think against this Michigan defense. Certainly a letdown

1174
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: maybe early on for Michigan before they have some emotional

1175
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: smelling salts and get into this game. But this stadium

1176
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: is going to be wall to wall Mason Blue. It's

1177
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: going to be wall. When was the last time Michigan

1178
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: played a game of this magnitude on a neutral site.

1179
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: It's been a minute.

1180
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: I saw there was something like twenty three thousand requests

1181
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: for ten thousand tickets. There's gonna be a lot amazing

1182
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: blue here. I think it's going to be very difficult

1183
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 2: for whoever's starting this game, for iowat quarterback to get

1184
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: to twenty points. And the way that Iowa's lost games,

1185
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: the mistake pro nature of the offense. What was against

1186
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: Wisconsin where they were just fully out of the game

1187
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: pretty quickly.

1188
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: I have Michigan winning this game thirty one thirteen. Interesting.

1189
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: Don't be safe, Ty, don't be safe? Come on? You

1190
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: mentioned something on our recap show that I think bears

1191
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: repeating today. Harball porn. Sure? What is harball porn? Well,

1192
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: for those wondering, I believe it's the loot act of

1193
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: running it what fifty times mostly for balance, passing the

1194
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: ball just to keep the defense honest, trying to wear

1195
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: down your opponent, or sixty minutes. Mm hmm. Let me

1196
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: tell you something. Dan Kirk Farrence googles that late at night,

1197
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: maybe after the missus goes to bed on the Old

1198
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: Gateway two thousand, maybe with Samaro Smith jamming in the background.

1199
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: I know you have a Windows ninety eight sounds somewhere

1200
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: on that soundboard playing on his zoom.

1201
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what kirk Ference does for music, but

1202
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: kirk Ference knows all about that move. Dan. It doesn't

1203
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: make him scared. Quite the contrary, maybe it seduces him too.

1204
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: Sure if you're given Iowa ten points, if you're given

1205
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Iowa eleven and a half points in a game that

1206
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: will surely devolve into big dumb three yard runs at

1207
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,479
Speaker 1: some point, Yeah, eleven and a half points are giving

1208
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Iowa in an obvious letdown, perhaps look ahead spot for Michigan,

1209
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: which hasn't played for anything in a great long time.

1210
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: Eleven and a half points for Iowa against a team

1211
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: that has found creative, if not mean, way to let

1212
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: its fan base down for a fricking generation. Yeah, give

1213
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: me eleven and a half points. You don't have to

1214
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: understand it to take those points.

1215
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: What do you think Michigan would have done with the

1216
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: twenty one to nine lead, which is where Nebraska was

1217
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: against Iowa last week? What do we think Michigan would

1218
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: do with that type of lead? That was a backup quarterback,

1219
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: by the way, for Nebraska who built up that was

1220
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: what's today. We're recording this on a Tuesday. It was

1221
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: four days ago, five days ago. This is where Iowa

1222
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: is as a program right now, away from Iowa City especially.

1223
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: You don't need to understand it, but the occult forces

1224
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: of Kirk Farns will be on display here. Okay, Michigan

1225
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: wins the game. It's low scoring, it's twenty four to fifteen.

1226
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: Iowa gets four field goals in a safety. That's how

1227
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: they get the fifteen. They don't score a touchdown against

1228
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Michigan because Michigan plate four field goals in a safety.

1229
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: We hatch you to a fourteen. Okay, we'll get to fourteen. Okay,

1230
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen. Michigan wins this game.

1231
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: I do worry about kid mcnu. Everybody doesn't throw a

1232
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: lot of interceptions. That's not who he is, like Yatangova looa, yeah,

1233
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 2: that is that is.

1234
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: That is who he is.

1235
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: And it made sense. And I picked against Iowa in

1236
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: that game like a damn fool. But in this matchup,

1237
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: by the way, Michigan, if you're gonna bring the wagering

1238
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: element in taking the points, who's better than Michigan against

1239
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: the spread this year, No, by eighty three percent, number

1240
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: one in the country against the spread. Vegas is not

1241
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: quite honed in on where Michigan should be against the spread.

1242
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, everything in terms of numbers, in terms of

1243
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: what we've seen these past few weeks, you have to

1244
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: like something that we haven't seen from Iowa because they

1245
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: reached a point against what three and nine Nebraska where

1246
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: they said the backup quarterback we brought in because the

1247
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: starter wasn't any good is also not good enough. We're

1248
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: bringing the bad starter back in and I don't know,

1249
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think. Look, if you're saying this is

1250
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: what Kirk Farence google's late at night, Brian Farrens is

1251
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: using a calculator to try and google things, that's the

1252
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: problem for Iowa.

1253
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh oh, well, I like that I built

1254
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: up to a crescendo and then did the math wrong.

1255
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to forgive me. It's just okay.

1256
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: We both went to state schools. We're just looking out

1257
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: for each other.

1258
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,160
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Speaker 2: By the way, the last time Iowa found itself in

1269
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: this game, which I believe was the twenty fifteen season

1270
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: when they went undefeated during the regular season. How many

1271
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: points did they score in Indian Apple thirteen thirteen points.

1272
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's quickly go through some other important group of

1273
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: five games and otherwise, Dan, let's go back in time

1274
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: if we can. Friday, it's the Ryan Conference USA Championship,

1275
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: seven pm, CBS Sports Network, Western Kentucky at eight and four.

1276
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Favored by one against your UTSA Roadrunners. Dan play the

1277
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: sound Utsa eleven to one. They lost. Is this not

1278
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: the Battle of the soliverbo All Stars? It is?

1279
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Frank Harris and Bailey Zappy.

1280
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely is whose side are we gonna go

1281
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: with here? Are you gonna side with the darling of

1282
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: your soundboard? Yeah, the UTSA Roadrunners. Can you play that

1283
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: sound one more time? Thank you? Dan? Or are you

1284
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna go with our guy the top gun mister Plucky

1285
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: from Western Kentucky, Bailey ZAPPI who you going with?

1286
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: I am going with the road Runners here? And I

1287
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: think BAI is gonna have a one full wonderful game

1288
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: in a losing effort. Unfortunately, because Western Kentucky's defense is caarbage.

1289
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: So I just in these spots, I can't roll with it.

1290
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: I can't go with like, oh, this team clearly has

1291
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: the worst defense, but I see them pulling it out. No,

1292
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: I just don't. I have UTSA winning this game by

1293
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: three points. I think they If you're able to run

1294
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: in a game, it makes it increasingly difficult to lose.

1295
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: It's possible, It's always possible. I've watched I've watched my team. Louh,

1296
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: God was it the Royce Freeman ran for like two

1297
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three yards against Wazoo in a losing effort.

1298
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: Definitely possible. But no, I think UTSA is just they're

1299
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: They're going to They're going to score and they're going

1300
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: to control the ball. Western Kentucky will get theirs. I

1301
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: have forty one thirty eight and a bit of a

1302
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: shootout here in favor of the road Runners.

1303
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: You'll have to excuse my beloved co host The Courage

1304
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: Brian Harson, but I am locking up Western Kentucky. Block

1305
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: of the Week. Bailey Zappi's hometown of Victoria, Texas is

1306
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: like two hours away. It is unlikely homecoming for him

1307
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: as well as the other guys. They're like eighteen of

1308
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: them now who transferred up from Houston Baptist. Give me Western.

1309
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: Let's lock it up. But a fun game and a

1310
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: lot of points. Wow, really yeah, Western Western all the way, Baby,

1311
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go Yeah.

1312
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 2: Utsa doesn't run the ball especially well. But Western Kentucky

1313
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: is it. They're your matre d or Defense of the year.

1314
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: Right this way, so right this way.

1315
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: The Rocket Mortgage Mac Football Championship Game twelve pm on

1316
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: Saturday on ESPN. It is the Golden Flashes of Kent

1317
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: State at seven and five, a three point favorite, squaring

1318
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: off at Ford Field against the Northern Illinois Huskies DAN,

1319
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: who are eight and four. These teams played previously. Back

1320
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: in Week ten, Northern Illinois played like crap. It was

1321
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: a shootout. They played like crap. They still almost won.

1322
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: The final was fifty two to forty seven. They played.

1323
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: Didn't Trayvon Rudolph have like three hundred yards receiving in

1324
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: this game? For NIU, their postgame win expectancy was something

1325
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: like twenty two percent. They did not play well enough

1326
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: to win. Per our efficiency numbers, how many yards did

1327
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombardi throw for in that game? He still threw

1328
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: for like five hundred yards. You look it up.

1329
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: A million yards.

1330
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he threw for a bajillion yards. The problem is

1331
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: Rocky Lombardi hasn't been on the field and he hasn't

1332
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: been playing, and so he's beat up. He wasn't able

1333
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: to go last week, and they started a freshman who

1334
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: I think threw for nineteen yard Like there was some

1335
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: comically low number when pushed up against what Rocky Lombardi

1336
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: was able to do against Kent State a few weeks ago.

1337
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: I remember, this is too much information, This is absolutely

1338
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: too much information. But it was an early Saturday morning

1339
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: because the game was it a Friday night game. I

1340
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: think it was a Friday night game, this matchup, it

1341
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: was an early morning whatever.

1342
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: They are really plumbing the depths of your football brain

1343
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: right now. No no.

1344
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: I found myself on the toilet, as I do most

1345
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: mornings after my morning brew, and I was catching up

1346
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 2: on some scores and some highlights and some college football

1347
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: news on a smartphone. And I saw this score and

1348
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: this box score and how this game went. And I

1349
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: remember just sitting there as we all do, thinking to myself, well,

1350
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch this as soon as I'm out of

1351
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: this room, and I did. I went back and watched

1352
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: the highlights and it was pretty incredible. So we should

1353
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: be entertained. If Rocky Lombardi has any sort of health,

1354
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: I have not seen an update. Hopefully he is good

1355
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: to go.

1356
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 1: Kent's got five losses, three of which were to Texas

1357
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 1: A and m Iowa and Maryland. It's been a rough

1358
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: go for them in the non come. Neither team plays defense.

1359
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: This should actually be a lot of fun to watch.

1360
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: I think sort of a redux of what we saw

1361
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: back in Week ten. Kent State runs the tar out

1362
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: of the ball, which is kind of fun as well.

1363
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: And i u's been a nice story they've been a

1364
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: good story this year because there wasn't a whole lot

1365
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: of expectation about this team going into the season. Let's

1366
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: say there was a fair amount of skepticism that they'd

1367
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: be able to turn it around. But it's been a

1368
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: good story. I'm gonna go Golden Flashes. I think it's

1369
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: a shootout. I think they win, I think they cover,

1370
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: but I do expect a lot of points here. Yeah,

1371
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, I have Ken State by seven. I

1372
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: just don't know that.

1373
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: I can't go with a team who may not have

1374
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: their starting quarterback, who seems to be much much better

1375
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: than the backup.

1376
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: Mount West Championship, three pm on Fox. Utah State at

1377
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: nine and three, San Diego State eleven and one. They

1378
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: are favored by five points. Dan Blake Anderson has done

1379
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: a tremendous job at Utah State. In year one. They

1380
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: beat Wa Zoo all the way back in Week one.

1381
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: The problem is that this is a big play team.

1382
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: M hmm, both for them and against them. Yeah, they

1383
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: love to give up big plays. Meanwhile, San Diego State

1384
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: beat Utah back in Week three, a quality win if

1385
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: I've ever seen one. They also beat Nevada, They beat

1386
01:11:55,760 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: Boise clearly a better caliber of work here if you're

1387
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: looking at the full body of what they've done this season.

1388
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: The problem is they just don't win by much. All

1389
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: of their games are kind of close, so to be

1390
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: favored by five presents an interesting proposition. I still think

1391
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: I go San Diego State. I think they're the better

1392
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: team here. But I do think Blake Anderson will have

1393
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: the Aggi's fired up and that this will be a

1394
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: relatively close game because, let's face it, a lot of

1395
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: San Diego State's games have been closed.

1396
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think San Diego State wins this game more

1397
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: comfortably than you do. I think Utah States record there's

1398
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: a bit of fools goal to it when you look

1399
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: at I mean, you're right about how those games they

1400
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: just get. Then they got drilled, like two weeks ago

1401
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: by Wyoming. They did a not so good Wyoming not

1402
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 2: so good Wyoming. They barely beat Colorado State, who should

1403
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: be looking for a new coach. I'm just not in on.

1404
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: I think it's a good story that you win your

1405
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: clunkers and you do everything you can to win as

1406
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: many games as humanly possible. I think Logan Bond, you're right,

1407
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: there's too many big plays, and there's too many mistakes.

1408
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: And I can just depend on the San Diego State

1409
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: defense to win this game more so than I can

1410
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: Utah State and so and the game is what It's

1411
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: in Carson right there? Or San Diego State has a

1412
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: temporary home.

1413
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me, Dignity Health Sports Park in Carson, California.

1414
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so far away from Utah. I'm gonna go San

1415
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: Diego State here. Twenty six seventeen. Is that nine points?

1416
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: You shouldn't ask me, but I believe So State School. Yeah,

1417
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: it is Sun Belt Championship game. Play it at Cajun

1418
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: Field in Lafayette, Louisiana. Before you ask, Yes, Billy Napier

1419
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: will be coaching Louisiana in this game. M hm three

1420
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: point thirty ESPN it's app State minus three on the

1421
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: road at Louisiana. These teams played earlier in the year.

1422
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: Louisiana one by twenty eight. Correct. I think it's closer,

1423
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: but it's an emotional spot for the raging Cagn's. They're

1424
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: at home. I don't quite understand why app State's favored

1425
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: by three. So I'm going home. Dawn of the week.

1426
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: Where's my sound? The kers home dog of the week,

1427
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: Home dog of the week, raging Cajuns to cover the

1428
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: three points spread at home.

1429
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to app State here. I'm going to app

1430
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: State because I was wrong about Chase Brice. He has

1431
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 2: been very good for them. Even though they have been

1432
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: able to run the ball all that well, I still

1433
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: like the app State defense here, especially against the run

1434
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: up front. I like where app State is. And you

1435
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: look at what Louisiana has done this year, and it's

1436
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 2: been good. They've won a bunch of games, and they

1437
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: know I think they rely on turnovers. I don't like

1438
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: that they can't pass the ball all that consistently. So

1439
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: if this does turn into a bit of a track meet,

1440
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: I don't think Louisiana is keeping up. I don't like

1441
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: their defense. They give up too many big plays, and

1442
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think they just beat up on

1443
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of nothing teams like App State was clearly

1444
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: the best team on their schedule, and yes I include Texas,

1445
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: and they lost that one comfortably at home. They've already

1446
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: done this at home times. Yeah yeah, yeah, So the

1447
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: home dog thing, I don't know. I don't know how

1448
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: much water that holds. But you're talking about a one

1449
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: point win against Arkansas State, who is terrible. You're talking

1450
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 2: about Georgia State. You're talking about I mean a close

1451
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: win against Georgia State, a close win against Monroe. All

1452
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: due respect to rich Rod, who's now I think the

1453
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: new coach at Jacksonville State, we didn't have that in

1454
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: our news rundown. As Jacksonville State goes to and becomes

1455
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: an FBS team, I just I don't trust teams like

1456
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 2: that put together this type of record and don't separate

1457
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: themselves against low level talent. So I'm going to app

1458
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 2: State here. I think they're more impressive in the way

1459
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: that they play the game and can win in more ways.

1460
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: So go Mountaineers.

1461
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: And finally, it's not a conference championship game. I'm calling

1462
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: it the California Drive for five. I'm the driving eleven

1463
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: PM on FS one. It is USC at four and seven.

1464
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: It is Cal at four and seven. They played at

1465
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: Cal Memorial Stadium in Berkeley, Cal favored by two points. Dan,

1466
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Lincoln Riley will be there be somewhere in

1467
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: front of a comfortable four K, seventy inch TV right

1468
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 1: somewhere in the Hollywood.

1469
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: He'll be sitting with a recruit watching this game. Yeah,

1470
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 2: this is a postponement. They postponed it from earlier in

1471
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: the year because of COVID packed twelve after dark.

1472
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: Who are you going with?

1473
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm going with the team without the horrendously hilarious defense,

1474
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: which is where USC is. I think COL wins this

1475
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 2: game by a touchdown. Cal has been better against the spread.

1476
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: They've i wouldn't say come on strong the second half

1477
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: of the season, but they've won one three of five.

1478
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: They beat Colorado, they beat Oregon State, which is not nothing.

1479
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: To beat Oregon State, I'll be it at home. Yes,

1480
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: they lost to Arizona, but they blew out Stanford like

1481
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: every team should do. And it still hurts me, like

1482
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: that's that's the game that has reflected the worst on

1483
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: any sort of top team. Orgon losing to Stanford. Uh,

1484
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: and they lost to UCLA the way that they did whatever.

1485
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 2: I think Ucla is fine. I think COL wins this

1486
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: game going away, and I'm going seven to be safe.

1487
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: But I think they this is this is not much

1488
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: of a competition here.

1489
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go USC why not.

1490
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why not. They have the worst

1491
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: defense in the Pac twelve. Do you know how hard

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: that is when you have Colorado and Arizona and I'll all,

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: you know, Stanford, Stanford. What a weird situation that is

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: turning into.

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: But that's difficult. It's difficult to do. I don't know.

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01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going to usc Why not follow

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: my heart? Dan, I'm just laid it out. Follow my heart, Okay,

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: do it? I think I think that does it for

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: all of our games. I think that does.

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: I do have a slight request if you can drop

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01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 2: some big stanky Drummond Fife because we.

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: Shut on Oh baby, oh baby, o baby baby a

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: baby Friday night FCS Championship. It's the second round now, yeah,

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01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: seven pm, let me bring the music down a little

1505
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: bit more, please, seven pm ESPN plus Holy Cross the

1506
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: Crosssaders on the road against Villanova. It is ten and

1507
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: two against nine and two. They played at Villanova Stadium

1508
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Villanova Dan favored by thirteen and one

1509
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: half points. You can bet this game if you want to.

1510
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to because, of course, will you picking I'm

1511
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: rolling the Cross Saders. You're out of your mind? Of

1512
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: course I'm going to the Cross Saders.

1513
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm loyal to a fault tie. I'm loyal here. I

1514
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 2: don't know anything about Villanova, but I.

1515
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: Do know this. Philadelphia is like an hour and a

1516
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: half from you. Yeah, it's close. It's closer than that. Yeah.

1517
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: Some might say Philadelphia the most underrated pizza town in America.

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: They are very strong with their pizza options. I'm talking

1519
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: about in a world, in a world in which I

1520
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: don't have children to constantly look after, I would drag

1521
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: you to Philly to do a pizza crawl. And so

1522
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: you have that available to you from a dough, sauce,

1523
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: and cheese perspective, and you are turning it down. That

1524
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: doesn't look that doesn't reflect poorly on you. I'm going

1525
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: Crossaders here to march into this underrated pizza town.

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01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna place my bet right now. I'm going to

1527
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: place my bet.

1528
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: What's the spread? Thirteen and a half Nova favor by

1529
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half, thirteen and a half. Yeah, yeah,

1530
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: Crossaders out right, come.

1531
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: On, gotta go. I'm not going out right nuts. Come on,

1532
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: they're going to cover. Yeah, sure of course it's a playoff.

1533
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: What is.

1534
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Bill C does FCS SP plus.

1535
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: I consulted with that rating system before I decided to

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01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: say cover.

1537
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what did what did you find out?

1538
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: He's got it at about twelve A near cover? You

1539
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: know how I stand on these things? Yeah, okay, all right, Dan,

1540
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: that does it. Long show. Appreciate everybody bearing with us

1541
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,479
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1542
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1566
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: about in just a few short days to commemorate Bowl season,

1567
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1569
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: Can tell you I just saw a report from I

1570
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: think ESPN. Urban Meyer not interested in any college coaching jobs,

1571
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 2: of course, admitted to rebuilding the Jags. Also, the new

1572
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Louisiana tech head coach taking over for Skip Poltz is

1573
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: Sonny Comby, who looks terrific an.

1574
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: Advisor and very good advisor. Yeah absolutely, all right, all right, folks,

1575
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: that does it for a long show. My voice is cooked.

1576
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1578
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1579
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Speaker 1: you ready for the weekend. In the meantime, for that

1580
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, For myself

1581
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: Tie hild A Brand. Yeah, take a deep breath and

1582
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Speaker 1: stay solid. Peace,