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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: is our NFL Week eight Sunday Recap episode. I am

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Speaker 1: Chad Milman and I am joined by my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre, my co host, the man who said the

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, Hello say Man, Hello Chad, Dude three and two.

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Speaker 1: live than it is on Sunday nights when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the early and the big lines that we're looking

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Speaker 1: ahead to for the following week. Here's a little recap

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Speaker 1: of what's happened. We had Dallas minus six and a half,

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants plus three and a half. Very

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Speaker 1: interesting strategic conversation we had on that one. We had

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Speaker 1: Denver minus six and a half, Green Bay plus one

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Speaker 1: and a half, Washington plus six and a half lost

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Speaker 1: those last two. The games we considered but passed Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: plus two and a half, Texans minus three and a

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Speaker 1: half Niners minus three and a half fascinating combos. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get into all of it because every game

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Speaker 1: is so intertwined, and like Simon, the little decisions we make,

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Speaker 1: like the one little comment we make that ends up

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Speaker 1: keeping us on or off a game at a particular moment,

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Speaker 1: it's so fascinating. I don't know if you feel that

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Speaker 1: way at all, but like I can take a lot

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Speaker 1: of notes in our conversations and I would look back

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Speaker 1: and be like, hold shit, I like it was a

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Speaker 1: little thing that kept us from a loss, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: they win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's also nice on a week that I

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Speaker 2: feel like a lot of things then bounce our way

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Speaker 2: that we finished three and two. It's like we had

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Speaker 2: a lot of things that were just like did this

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Speaker 2: really just happen? Did that really just happen? Like is

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Speaker 2: are we really not going to cover now? Yeah? Worst

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Speaker 2: obviously the worst pick of the days by far on me,

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Speaker 2: That Green Bay pick was dead from the start. But

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Speaker 2: every other game we were in and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: four and one was sitting there, two and three was

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Speaker 2: complain another another winning week. It always feels good.

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Speaker 1: By the way, starting one in three was sitting there

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Speaker 1: with with meeting Denver to cover in the afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to all of it. So this

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Speaker 1: first game we got to talk about Dallas minus six

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Speaker 1: a relief than gratifying. And I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to repeat to you. I just said to you before

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Speaker 1: we came on the air, and I said this as

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Speaker 1: I was doing the introduction. Maybe my most favorite quote

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys this morning. You said to me, you know

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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, like like the idea of it, but

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Speaker 1: we spent so much time breaking down these games, talking

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Speaker 1: a professional level. At the end of the day, you compromised.

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Speaker 1: You believed that is BFF shit right there.

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Speaker 2: Simon, Yeah, Jad knows the deal. It's tough. I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: I already had bet it, like I backed you whenever

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. And it was just like this

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Speaker 2: think they'd got like a sack and some pressure on

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Speaker 2: if they're already getting this much pressure, this is this

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Speaker 2: is gonna be a long day for Dak. And then

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Speaker 2: for once, this is why I love you, Chad. We

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Speaker 2: were on the chalk side, the right side. We got

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Speaker 2: the pick six, we got the block, and all these

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Speaker 2: you never we never get these plays because we're just

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Speaker 2: betting these ugly dogs. It was great. I was like,

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Speaker 2: contest wise, those are huge, right, That's like you just

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Speaker 2: the get go of that front four for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: all the trouble they gave the Rams, it was pretty

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Speaker 2: much just exactly what you said that Stafford would be

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Speaker 2: under duress, he'd make mistakes. I mean, what was that

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Speaker 2: the fourth throw of the game for him that picked six?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually went exactly as we thought it would,

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Speaker 1: right like the Cowboys. There are certain spots where you

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Speaker 1: can guarantee the Cowboys are going to do what you

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Speaker 1: a trendy team at home, where everyone can now believe,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, the Cowboys are amazing, and we know

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Speaker 1: they're not amazing. They caught a team that people have

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Speaker 1: liked in a quarterback that usually can do magical things

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Speaker 1: at the exact right time. We talked about Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 1: exactly as we thought it would. Like the pressure was

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh right, it's Mike McCarthy and he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honest, I never was. It just really like you said,

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Speaker 2: they were just yeah, they were just in complete control.

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Speaker 2: It was like a game of Even when they were

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Speaker 2: coming back, he goes, well, Dallas at any point can

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Speaker 2: just go back to CD. Like CD was getting whenever

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Speaker 2: you know, they're not always going to have the Cowboys, right,

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Speaker 2: They're not always gonna have these kind of matchups. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: as much as I wanted bash McCarthy, it was a

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Speaker 2: you're feeling really good right when you're on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Once again, usually were on the side where the backup's

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Speaker 2: coming in for that team. That's how Chad lived life.

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Speaker 2: So once again the Cowboys, there was just nice to

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Speaker 1: Of Well, look there was We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: a backup who came in for us, our hero game

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Speaker 1: in the next game. But also I do want to

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Speaker 1: say we'll talk about another backup, which is Taylor Heineke

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Speaker 1: at the end, because I do want to talk about Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk about Tennessee next week and

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Speaker 1: Will Levis and how amazing his performance was. But I

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Speaker 1: So on Thursday, we loved, we didn't love, we loved

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Speaker 1: on the Favorites dot Actionnetwork dot com and then on

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Speaker 1: Sunday because we want to get those lines. On Sunday

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Speaker 1: a half for the Broncos. Holy fuck, Simon, did that payoff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And it does help. But I'm sick for everyone

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Speaker 2: that pushed with me on the three, like we gave out.

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Speaker 2: That was why Simon says, but I talked about how

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Speaker 1: Like, I know you're talking about Tommy Fuckingdvito.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Tommy DeVito, who his favorite show is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasna say his favorite show Sopranos. Both his

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Speaker 2: So sick for everyone that had to plus three out

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Speaker 2: I could have sworn in my dream I saw that

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Speaker 1: Dude, he tried. He threw a screen try pass into

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Speaker 1: I wrote down, this bet is doa except maybe Zach

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Speaker 1: late into the third quarter twenty four combined punts. The

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Speaker 1: And while we pushed this game because we bet the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I just so how you play the

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Speaker 2: those little flips there. So the Giants, luckily they're they're

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with Keevon Thibodeau had a great game,

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Speaker 1: The quarterback of that Cleveland Browns team in two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Right? All right, we're going to talk about our two

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Speaker 1: I mean, Love was terrible, didn't have one hundred yards

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bad bet just these happened. I mean, we bet

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Speaker 2: love to bad mouth Jordan Love, it's the whole team

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Speaker 2: They have a good defense, they have good weapons of

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Speaker 2: it's just at that point, you know you're done with

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Speaker 1: Talk about Washington. That was another game we had. We

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Speaker 1: We betted at seven at least, I know I did.

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Speaker 1: And this was excruciating, right, like Washington really should have

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Speaker 2: And just everything about it sucked where it's like we

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Speaker 2: I don't want pushes. I hate pushes. As nice as

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Speaker 2: Sam throws a stupid pick. You know, they get the seven,

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Speaker 2: at least we either will either die here or we'll

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Speaker 2: live on with the six. And we didn't get that

432
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: opportunity kick the extra point. And it's just like, oh

433
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: my god, this dude is such a dinosaur and I

434
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: just can't get over he's their Their defense is terrible.

435
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Why even keep the whole the whole thing is bizarre

436
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: to me. So yeah, that was definitely one of the

437
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: more painful losses this season. Just s thought Washington seemed

438
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: like the better team. The Eagles if like a look

439
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: ahead spot for them with Dallas and Hurts doesn't look

440
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: himself right even after you'd run, you'd see him a

441
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: grimacen and everything like that. So yeah, it is tough.

442
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: Where like I'm counting this as a loss for the

443
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Speaker 2: Eagles because of public perception, Like I think the public's

444
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: gonna be used as a loss for the Eagles. They

445
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: just didn't look that good, but at the end of

446
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: the day, they pushed. So yeah, just just an incredible team.

447
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: Like as an Eagles fan, life, life couldn't be better. Chat,

448
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: It's like, I can't believe how good my team is,

449
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 2: how good the offense is. It's just, you know, I

450
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: love Teo. That whole era with TiO McNabb was really special,

451
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: and Deshaun Jackson was another incredible Eagles receiver. But Aj

452
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: Brown he's it. He's the best receiver I've ever seen

453
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 2: in my life. Everything he does is incredible. You know,

454
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: he's making plays over the field. And then the fact

455
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: that Julio Jones has stepped in he had a huge

456
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: catch into that game for that touchdown. It's it's bizarre

457
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: right now as an Eagles fan, I just can't believe

458
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: back to back seasons, this team is so good. Like

459
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: you four nine ers today, That's what do you expect

460
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, right You expect them to have a

461
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: little bit of a rough run or fall off a

462
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: little bit of a cliff, right, we mean, ch I've

463
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: been talking here. They lost their O C and d

464
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Speaker 2: C and they just keep winning. They're the best team

465
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Speaker 2: of football right now. They're the best record in football.

466
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Speaker 2: It's it is bizarre. They'll be able to okay, but

467
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Speaker 2: keep it all together. But like we're about to talk about, uh,

468
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Speaker 2: this upcoming week, it's a it's a real test for

469
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Speaker 2: them this upcoming week. So pretty pretty exciting for an

470
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Speaker 2: Eagles fan. Enjoy this win. But yeah, it's it's about

471
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: to be a crazy week as an Eagles fan.

472
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Speaker 1: They are a very interesting team because, as we've said

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Speaker 1: all season, they're winning almost in spite of themselves. They're

474
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Speaker 1: winning because they know how to win, because they're so talented,

475
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Speaker 1: because they're so well coached. This team is evidence of that.

476
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Six and four straight up the last ten games when

477
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Speaker 1: trailing by ten points or more at any point in

478
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Speaker 1: the season, I mean in the game including two and

479
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Speaker 1: oh the season for context, the rest of the NFL

480
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: when trailing at any point in a game by ten

481
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Speaker 1: points or more thirteen and seventy seven this year, which

482
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Speaker 1: is amazing.

483
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Speaker 2: I got some more context for you, Shanahan is zh

484
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Speaker 2: to thirty when he's trailing by double digits headed end

485
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Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter in his career as a forty

486
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Speaker 2: nine Ers head coach, so it ain't easy to.

487
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Speaker 1: Do even more amazing, three weeks ago, the Eagles lose

488
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Speaker 1: to the Jets and the Niners lose to the Browns.

489
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Speaker 1: Since then, the Eagles claw their way back. They beat

490
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Speaker 1: up on the Dolphins, claw their way back, come back

491
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Speaker 1: from ten to beat on the Commanders. The Niners lost

492
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Speaker 1: to the Browns, lost to the Vikings, lost badly to

493
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Speaker 1: the Bengals. So all of a sudden, the Eagles like

494
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: completely in the driver's seat in the NFC. Shoot. The

495
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks are in first place in the NFC West. Three

496
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Speaker 1: weeks ago would you have guessed that?

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, just a week ago the Seahawks were four

498
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Speaker 2: to one to win their division. Now they're in the lead.

499
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: And just a week ago, so even the books did

500
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Speaker 2: not see this comment. With this forty nine Ers team

501
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: melting down and Purdy turning back into a seventh round.

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Speaker 1: Pick, All right, Denver, what can we say? We had

503
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Speaker 1: him in the contest at six and a half. We

504
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Speaker 1: made the change this morning, decided the seven wasn't going

505
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: to be something that deterred us. Patrick Mahomes had a

506
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: touch of the flu because it's racing through his house

507
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: because he's a young parent. Is the most relatable thing ever.

508
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: And there were moments in this game that made me sick. Bucker.

509
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned Russell Wilson fumbling and then Bucker hitting that

510
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: field goal at the end of the half to make

511
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: it fourteen to nine. Then there was a block field

512
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: goal by the Chiefs against the Broncos when they could

513
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Speaker 1: have gone up seventeen to nine. Russell Wilson holding the

514
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: ball forever. But here's my question. We were on the

515
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: right side of this right call. All the reasons why

516
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: we bet Green Bay, we also bet Denver. It just

517
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: happened to work out for US. Denver's defense three straight

518
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: weeks of playing well, two straight weeks of Wilson not

519
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: losing them the game. I feel like we're looking at

520
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: a film room reevaluating Russell Wilson and the Broncos defense.

521
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: You and me, two sides of the same coin. What

522
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: are we making of this team right now?

523
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to fade Denver, but

524
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: I believe they're on a buy so yeah, Instead, I'll

525
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: just grab it right now. I mean a little preview,

526
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: but the Chiefs are minus two and a half in

527
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: Germany against Miami. We gotta do it right. I mean, yes,

528
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: as bad as as bad as the defense looked for

529
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. We talked about it like they have injuries

530
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: on their defense right now, but offensively, you can just

531
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: tell it wasn't the same mahomes were used too, and

532
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: I mean it was reported this morning, which gave me

533
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: confidence where I felt comfortable going to the six and

534
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: a half with Chad. Where it's like, apparently he had

535
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: the flu and you know, who knows what kind of

536
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: bug he got again this is it sounds bizarre, but

537
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: I believe in it. His kids are in a daycare,

538
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: they pick up a bug, they bring it home, and

539
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: Chad knows if you've ever gotten sick from a kid

540
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: from coming back from a daycare. It is the sick

541
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: of six right. It's like the most intense sick whatever

542
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: you'll feel your whole life. You've never been that sick, ever,

543
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: kind of sickness, And that's apparently what he had. His

544
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: whole family was just decimated this whole weekend. He toughened

545
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: it out. He played in the game just didn't look right.

546
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean that offense didn't look right at all. He

547
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: wasn't his normal self. Man, what a sweat that was though,

548
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Like I never felt comfortable when it was fourteen and

549
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: a half. I was like, we're dead. We're not going

550
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: to cover this somehow. I mean, they're just the little things.

551
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 2: Never does. It just makes you remember they're just a

552
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: bad team. They're just so bad. Russell Wilson still thinks

553
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: he's twenty seven years old. Trying to outrun these d ns.

554
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: He gets caught every time. I think it was a

555
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: fourth down he got caught. I was like, well there

556
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: goes that bet. Just all those things kept happening, and

557
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look at us now, just outright winners on Denver.

558
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: I wish that was in our money on round robin,

559
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: but we gave the stats from Evan. That was the

560
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: first time Mahomes has ever lost in a road divisional

561
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: game in his career, which is crazy to say this

562
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: is like year seven or whatever it is. But yeah,

563
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: for Denver, you know that that was as good as

564
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna get, right, Like that was their super Bowl

565
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: this year. I wish we could fade them this upcoming week.

566
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: Because you know those guys are gonna be partying for

567
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: at least two to three days off that win, but

568
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: sadly we're not. So yeah, that was that was a

569
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: great win, Chad Like again, three and two. We got there,

570
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: but it definitely there's certain weeks it feels like a grind,

571
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: even on this making the picks this morning, a grind,

572
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: like trying to get to our five. So coming out

573
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: three and two just feels so good.

574
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Speaker 1: So good, all right. A recap of other depicts this week.

575
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Speaker 1: Denver was the Foxhole at plus seven. Big Balls was

576
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Washington plus six and a half. Matt Mitchell says in

577
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: the script, so I guess we didn't have Washington plus seven.

578
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Exec decision was Dallas minus six and a half. Simon says,

579
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: New York Giants plus three. The round robin was Pittsburgh,

580
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Speaker 1: Green Bay, New York Giants, Washington, Tennessee. The last thing

581
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll say about Pittsburgh was we even thought about it

582
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: this morning a little bit, and in the end I

583
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: think we both agreed. We love Mike Tomlin, but there's

584
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: only so much in a Rob Ross spot, and like

585
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Speaker 1: you got to know when to walk away from the spot.

586
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: And this felt like the time to walk away from

587
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: the spot we've been saying all week, like it made

588
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: us jittery making this part of the contest. So I

589
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: was glad for us that we didn't. We didn't and

590
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: over indulge at the Mike Tomlin Raw Raw buffet.

591
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: And that's tough. We're taking sponsored losses because we have

592
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: to use that three six fives numbers, So we took

593
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: a six and a half. But I guess that's the

594
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: way it goes for Washington. But yeah, that that that's tough.

595
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: A push on the push on the Giants is tough.

596
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that that one's gonna sting for

597
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: the rest of tonight. Like those Again, I'm trying to

598
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: be positive, but people can tell those those games just

599
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: irk me so bad because it's just it should have

600
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: been an outright win, should have been an easy cover,

601
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: and end up being just a bad, bad, bad push.

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00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: All right for those of us, for those joining live,

603
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: we do have a game tonight. We got the Chicago Bears.

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00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: They are playing the Los Angeles Chargers. Right now. What

605
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: is the line on this game?

606
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Right now?

607
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: It's nine? Wow, it's all the way up to nine.

608
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: So what's your take here.

609
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm on the Chargers on the under, but not I mean,

610
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: it's rare. I'm just like, I'm probably not gonna watch

611
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: a game. I'm probably not gonna watch this game. It's

612
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: two o'clock in the afternoon here in Hawaii. I'd rather

613
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: go to the beach or do something else than watch

614
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: the Bears and Chargers. Just two bad teams. But I'll

615
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: put I'll put some money on it. I'll and I

616
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: gave out this morning. Anytime touchdown, DJ, it's dropped a

617
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: little bit. As long as you're going to plus two

618
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: hundred dollars ball, I'd still take it anytime touchdown, DJ Moore.

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Speaker 1: This line's all over the place. You can find eight

620
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Speaker 1: and a half, so you can find nine. There are

621
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Speaker 1: nine and a Half's another bet that we Simon mentioned

622
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: the under. That's it's a big luck rankings total to

623
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: the under, one of the best performing percentage unders that

624
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: we have in terms of the luck rankings, So you

625
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: might want to think about that. Also, Raybauond loved Roshan Johnson,

626
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: the Bears running back under twenty nine and a half

627
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: rushing guards. What about Tomorrow night, Simon Monday Night Football,

628
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: we got Las Vegas at Detroit. Early in the world

629
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: we talked about like in Detroit. I feel like it's

630
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: a good spot for them, even though it's a big

631
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: number at minus eight.

632
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: It's down to minus seven and a half. I'm still

633
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: on it, but it's a little scary when you know

634
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: the pro money's coming in Vegas. But just lines seem

635
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: like they're the team that beats up on bad teams.

636
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: So not a deal with Montgomery out. I mean, he

637
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: seems like he's such a difference maker for that running

638
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: back group, and you know, maybe that's why the Pros

639
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: are taking a little bit of an angle here on

640
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: this Vegas team. But yeah, it's it's probably one of

641
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: the most public bets you'll ever see me make. Taking Detroit.

642
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: Here's just everyone's teasers. Everything is tied to this. A

643
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: lot of teachers got killed today though by this Chiefs game.

644
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Speaker 2: But apparently a lot of money is coming to the

645
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Speaker 2: Lions here, so the fact that it's going down never

646
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: a good sign. So yeah, definitely won't put a lot

647
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: on this one.

648
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Speaker 1: All right, the buys. This week you mentioned the Broncos,

667
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: the Lions, the Jags, the Niners who are desperately in

668
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: need of some time off. My first thought, before I

669
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: even looked at the lines was to fade Tennessee. And

670
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting to me, we barely talked about

671
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: Tennessee this week. Tennessee they were home dogs against the Falcons.

672
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Will Levis was the starting quarterback. And it's weird to

673
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: me that we didn't really consider Tennessee this week. Did

674
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: it ever cross your mind to say, hey, let's put

675
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee in the contest.

676
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: I think we put in the money line around robin,

677
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess it's like the same thing as

678
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: a Tomlin. We just can't play it every time. And

679
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: I had zero idea what Levice would do. Maybe we

680
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: should have just faded. Atlanta is a favorite on the road.

681
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: That would have been a nice spot, just to be like,

682
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I bad mount their quarterback for six months.

683
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: I should have just stayed on it. Kept you know,

684
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: we got really lucky with them covering against the Bucks.

685
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: So I was just like, you know, I'm just gonna

686
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: avoid a game of Atlanta for a week. It would

687
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: be nice. And you know, I don't even know how

688
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 2: much I probably had like mid four four or five

689
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: k on uh the round robin with Tennessee in it,

690
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: and I barely had any bets in the plus two

691
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: and a half. I just had no idea what to

692
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: do with that number? Chad, so definitely a miss, And

693
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: it's like I tried to overreact, but like you know,

694
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm watching the game of the Budding. This first thing

695
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: He's like says to me, He's like, how do you

696
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: not bet on this team with those those throwback uniforms.

697
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Wow, if that's just how everyone's betting today,

698
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna get smoked. But it didn't matter. Uh,

699
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: you know that kid threw four touchdowns? Is that how

700
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: it was? Right?

701
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: He was flicking it, like, yeah, the one thing we

702
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: knew about the.

703
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Best quarterback ever flicking it. It was bizarre. Yeah, he outplayed.

704
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: He did better than Tannel was like ever done for them, apparently, like.

705
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: Something more touchdowns in one game than Tannhell has this year.

706
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: So I'm right there with Chad. We're supposed to take

707
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh whatever the points are. I saw a couple, I

708
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: saw a couple of threes.

709
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a two and a half. Let's frame it. Pittsburgh

710
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: is a two and a half point favorite at home

711
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Thursday on Thursday. Yeah, I mean.

712
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Looking like it's Mitched Trubisky.

713
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: God, that's terrible.

714
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: It's terrible, but like, I don't know if it's really now.

715
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: The more I think about it is I maybe I'll

716
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: just avoid it again because I don't know what to do.

717
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: I don't really want to put a lot of money

718
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: on Mitch but under prime time under and I'll just

719
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: throw a little bet on it right now because that

720
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: minus two and a half a case it goes back

721
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: up to three.

722
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit more about Miami

723
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: at Kansas City. I'm not at Kansas City, but my

724
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: hands in Germany City, which is the German game. I

725
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: immediately wrote this down, like to me, how are you

726
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: not taking Kansas City in this spot?

727
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: Like you got your little home stat for under three

728
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: as a favorite.

729
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Let's see if Evan can can fire

730
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: that up quickly while while I'm vamping, because I do

731
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: want to talk about the.

732
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: Well he got it right here, he's got after scoring

733
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: twenty points or less. The Chiefs are nine to three

734
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: ats with homes in the next game, which is pretty impressive.

735
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: Right, and their defense is still amazing, Like they are

736
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: really good defense, right, And so you know you've said it,

737
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Raybahn has said it, Bill Barnwell this past week in

738
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: his column, he talked about it like the Chiefs might

739
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: have one of the two or three best defenses in

740
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. If you're talking about the Ravens and you're

741
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: talking about the Browns, the Chiefs kind of have to

742
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: be up there. So it's a good matchup for them

743
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: against a team like Miami, which has not performed well

744
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: against good defenses. We saw them struggle against the Patriots

745
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: early in the season. We saw them struggle against the

746
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: Bills and news game, so like we saw them struggle

747
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, which have a really good defense and

748
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: get a lot of pressure. So it feels like a

749
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: good spot for Kansas City here this week.

750
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, super Chalky, but we're just taking it because he

751
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: under three right now. Yeah, you know, plenty of books

752
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: out there. Two you can get that as well, which

753
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: is a key number. Obviously not ideal, like traveling all

754
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: the way to Germany from Kansas City. That's that's pretty far.

755
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what their travel plans are yet, but

756
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. Chad just Chad just broke it down.

757
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Like me and him in the spots, we we always

758
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: fade mahomes, but you always take mahomes. No, matter what

759
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: when he's under three or a dog. Evan just posted

760
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: Mahomes minus three or less or a dog nineteen six

761
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: and one ats. So we just play the numbers. We

762
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: take Mahomes in these kind of spots. And the fact

763
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: that he just got embarrassed lost his first road divisional

764
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: game ever after apparently he just had the flu. We

765
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: have to we have to play, we have to play

766
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: in this spot. So this is in contest of two

767
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: and a half. Oh wait, we can't play it because

768
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: in Germany I would have said, even if you're another contest,

769
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: you can get it. If it's under three, I would

770
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: definitely put uh this this in.

771
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: What's interesting this week? Not a lot of home dogs

772
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: right now, Like I'm looking at the board, Green Bay

773
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: is a home dog. New England is minus one and

774
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Carolinas plus two and a half, like not a lot.

775
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: And the Jets are plus one and a half on

776
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Monday night against the Chargers, which is which is pretty

777
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: interesting actually. But the game that ipags and I want

778
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: to hear other than Kansas City Miami, that I want

779
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: to hear from you on I had two that I

780
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: looked at and thought, oh, that's interesting. Seattle plus five

781
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: at Baltimore and then I got one more I want

782
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: to ask you about.

783
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I mean you probably want to

784
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: be on Seattle there.

785
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

786
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Big number. That's the only thing makes me work where

787
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: it's like, first glance, I'd assume this number should be

788
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: three and a half. So I'll take it. If it's

789
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: stinky and something's fishy here, maybe we'll get off it

790
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: layer in the week. But I'll grab the five now

791
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: while it's up there. But shockingly big, this is a

792
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: really big number for our Seahawks team that Yeah, they

793
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: got lucky today, that wasn't their best game. I don't

794
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: see them letting down against the Ravens. I don't I

795
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: don't see them overlooking Lamar like they did today with PJ.

796
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: Walker and that defense. I think they expect to play

797
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: better and this would be a great test for them.

798
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: That's secondary against Lamar in this passing offense that the

799
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Ravens are. Man, they're looking they're looking like real problem

800
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: right now. Like they're it's them the Chiefs and the

801
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Jags around the top three in the AFC, and every

802
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: week they're playing it. So that's that's the fear right now,

803
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: is like, are we walking into it? We stepping in it.

804
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: We'll just take a taste, we'll just start. We'll take

805
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: the five right now and we'll buy out of it

806
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: if we need to later in the week. But hard

807
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: to avoid this number, Jeed.

808
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Tastes just like a little little leapetizer taste of The

809
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks also had gorgeous throwback at Unis today. The other

810
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: team that is streaking right now. God, this AFC North

811
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: is so free. Good Cincinnati one and a half point

812
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: favorite at home against Buffalo. My lean is you gotta

813
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: take Cincinnati because that both.

814
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't get the line. Why is this not three?

815
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? That Bill's defense is terrible.

816
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: Again, I'm right there. I'm right there with Chad. I'm

817
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: bending two people. We might be stepping in it, but

818
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: what a terrible line. Horrible line this is. This is

819
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Bill's fully healthy line. Bills are not fully healthy. They

820
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: got major issues right now on that defensive side of

821
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: the ball. I'm right there with you, Chad, Like there's

822
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: there's certain times we're just playing the numbers here. If

823
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: this was three and a half three, I leaned towards Bills,

824
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: especially after the game we just saw from this Bengals team.

825
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: But and minus one, minus one and a half, what

826
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: are we doing here? So we'll take We'll take another

827
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: bet here on this Bengals team and see I see

828
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: which way this number moves. But IM not sure I'm

829
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: missing here. I just I feel like the Bengals are

830
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: a much better team right now. Like Burrow is a different,

831
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: different guy healthy, and we saw that today, him running

832
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: outside the pocket, him moving in the pocket. Chris was

833
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: Chris nailed it like he came back fully healthy after

834
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: two weeks. I wasn't buying that he was all right,

835
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: and he was all good today. He had no worries,

836
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: he was running, he was literally taking dudes on, putting

837
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: his head down. Yeah dudes, like that's that's a fearless

838
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: dude right there. So definitely a bad miss to me

839
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: by me today in the forty nine ers. But this,

840
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: this Bengals team catching under three at home against a

841
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: banged up Bills team. I don't care if the extend,

842
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: if they extended, rest I got it back to Bengals here.

843
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: And he was running incredibly well, like he did not

844
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: look concerned at all, and his and his throes were fantastic.

845
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: So totally agree with you. What were the games you

846
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: were looking at?

847
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: Honestly, I want to say it, but I gotta say

848
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm on the Bears. I know, I know, I gotta

849
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: do it though, Like it was, it just jumped out

850
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: to me.

851
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Where what's the number on the Bears right now?

852
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: Six six and a half? I just think people are

853
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: gonna drink the koliad of the Saints and the fact

854
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: that they're at home, you know, the only the only

855
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: reason this would move a ton if they got blown

856
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: out tonight or we know Fields is gonna be back,

857
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: But I think Fields will be back by next week

858
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: and this number could come down to four to four

859
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: and a half. The Saints, to me, you know they're good.

860
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: Their defense plays well. I still have a lot of

861
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: questions about Derek Carr and maybe they fixed it doing

862
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: this whole thing bringing in Hell and have him being

863
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: the running quarterback and then taking random deep shots. But

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00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: it's it's hard not to try to fade the Saints

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00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: after arguably their best performance by an offense they've had

866
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: this season. So uh, again, not going crazy. I just

867
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: threw a little bit on their plus six and you know,

868
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm doing it gotta do it. Tampa

869
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: plus two in Houston.

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00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I know why, but.

871
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 2: I think the book might be out on CJ brother today,

872
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 2: and he hasn't in a while, like since that Saints game.

873
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: He just looks like whatever these defenses have figured out

874
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: on him and they're taken away from him, he just

875
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: has not adjusted to it, and they don't. They offensively

876
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: haven't adjusted to it. So it's not going to be

877
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: shocking that people are going to come in on Houston here,

878
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: Like no one likes the Bucks. The Bucks got a

879
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: really lucky backdoor cover this past week. But I'm just

880
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm just taking in case they do. The pros do

881
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: come in on this number. It just feels like this

882
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: should be a pick. I'm getting plus two right now

883
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: on you know, this bad Bucks team. But I just

884
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: I trust Todd Bowles and their defense kind of keep this,

885
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: keep this defensive scheme going against CJ. CJ just you know,

886
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: he had plenty of opportunities today, he just did not

887
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: make the right reads. And it's been a couple of

888
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: weeks now he's just been this way like after he

889
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: started so well, get we give him so much grace

890
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: and you know, kind of overlooked it, and this this

891
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: week I had a decent amount on Houston, so I

892
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: was watching a lot of that game, and he just

893
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: did not look comfortable. And a lot of what the

894
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: defense was doing was disguising what they're like. Their pre

895
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: snaps looks were like they'd bring all everyone up to

896
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: the line and the dns would drop down, the linebackers

897
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: would rush and he would. It would just completely throw

898
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: them off these different looks. So as much as I

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00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: love the shit on and make fun of the Bucks,

900
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: this is probably a nice spot to back them.

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00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing? Uh, there is a

902
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: book out there that as we were talking about Cincinnati

903
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: and Buffalo that had Cincinnati a plus one and a

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00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: half and I grabbed it. So I'm going to put

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Speaker 1: in the app at plus one and a half, but

906
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: just so people are aware it might still be out there.

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00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: What a weird line.

908
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so go search for it, shop for it everywhere.

909
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Is at minus one and a half. This one book

910
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: was it plus one and a half, and it is

911
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: it's widely available. Okay, let me recap here Kansas City

912
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: minus two. We're looking to lean against that. Seattle plus Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Just don't little little tiny Appetizer on Seattle plus five Cincinnati, Seattle, Baltimore.

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00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean Buffalo is Cincinnati minus one and a half.

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00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: We like Cincinnati A lean to that. Bears plus six

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00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: and a half. I can't believe Simon said it not me.

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Speaker 1: Tampa plus two thinks the book might be out on CJ. Stroud.

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