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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday. Well unless you're John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: after and NFL Black Monday turned into black Tuesday for

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, or maybe just a just a really really

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Speaker 1: bad Tuesday. The no good Judy not Bummers summer and

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Speaker 1: then no good, very unhappy day for John Harbaugh. Been

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Speaker 1: too long for most movie posters. But yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: it works works out that way. I mean something.

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Speaker 3: We saw the sort of damnacles swinging, a lot of rumor, conjecture, speculation,

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Speaker 3: and finally it came down. Earlier today they went full

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Speaker 1: I like how the story went from both sides have

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Speaker 1: agreed to move on, And an hour later it was

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Speaker 1: Baltimore has fired John Harbaugh as their head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost the locker room, Like all of this stuff,

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Speaker 3: it just needed to marinate for a minute, and bam,

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Speaker 3: we broke the seal on the suvide.

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Speaker 1: We'll put out the statement that it's mutual. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. Okay, Has Harball left the building?

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Speaker 1: He got all the stuff, you packed everything up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y no, we fired that guy.

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Speaker 3: His passwords been changed. Any of these None of the

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Speaker 1: Right now, here's the deal hereuse there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: huge things off of this. Number one. I always like

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Speaker 1: to say we're ahead of the curve. It was in September,

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Speaker 1: in late September, back in sixty three, What a very

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Speaker 1: special time for me, Oh Lamar Jackson, what a night

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Speaker 1: with the bad start by the Ravens, you know, the

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Speaker 1: were struggling. It looked like they were done right. The

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Speaker 1: I remember in the middle of September, Harball is gonna

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Speaker 1: remember the reaction was, Oh, it's not gonna happen. No,

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Speaker 1: because there's been too many seasons where they have fallen short.

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Speaker 1: And while it's been a variety of reasons, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: hey it was Lamar Jackson bad turned the ball over

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Speaker 1: in one playoff. Yet could Mark Andrews have caught that

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Speaker 1: Loop had made the field goal. Yeah. If you can't

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Speaker 1: just point to one thing and say, well, this is

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Speaker 1: what teams do to Lamar Jackson the play whatever reason

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Speaker 1: they have not gotten it done. But the one commonality

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Speaker 1: across the entire time, or the two commonalities, have been

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh. Okay, they're not moving on

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Speaker 1: from Lamar Jackson, Right, that's not happening. Okay, the guy's

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Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame. He's in the middle

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Speaker 1: We just can't get to a super Bowl with what's

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Speaker 1: are we gonna think that coming back next year is

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Speaker 1: he's coaching for his job. If they don't make the play,

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Speaker 1: So okay, so late Sunday night, they probably spend most

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Speaker 1: you can't continue to give away seasons, not when you

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson. When it comes down

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Speaker 1: to the two of them, you could tell just things

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Speaker 1: were odd this year. Things were doing Lamar didn't run

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Speaker 1: its a bad coach, but eighteen years at one place, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you had this long with your quarterback, it's going

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens really had to do it because you

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Speaker 1: know the mobile quarterbacks they break down earlier. It just

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Speaker 1: best of Harbaugh and Lamar together. It didn't work. There

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Speaker 1: this is not surprising in the least. This happened.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean we joked about it Sunday morning doing

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Speaker 1: I just went full w WoT us leaves town match? Right?

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, whether he goes to a broadcast booth. You know,

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Speaker 3: he's thumping his chest after win. But with Harball, it's like.

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Speaker 1: It's like the gift that Frostburg sent us today, where

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Speaker 1: Tomlin fired, like a field goal makes. And Tomlin's getting

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Speaker 1: if it's outside, it's Harball getting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wah for thin right, the the razor's edge,

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Speaker 3: as it were, in terms of results, and a lot

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Speaker 1: And I know coaching and you wring your hands, you go,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? That's better?

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Speaker 3: Well, you're you're running in place, and and I think

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Speaker 3: part of it is you want Wait, if you're the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: you give it a day Sunday night football. But also,

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Speaker 3: let's see what Domino's fall, right, Let's see who becomes

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Speaker 3: available immediately. Kevin Stevanski in division Wait, we he can

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Speaker 3: actually come coach a place where we have the quarter yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: because Bashati did this before he got rid of Brian Billick.

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Speaker 3: Run and then that war wore out because you know,

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Speaker 3: and you move on with Harball. I mean that Super

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Speaker 3: You don't get to trade on that forever. And yes,

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Speaker 3: it is an odd convergence of circumstances which most of

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Speaker 3: our media brethren failed to recognize when they start going

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Speaker 3: to look at Lamar Jackson's numbers like there should have

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Speaker 3: been three more wins yea in there, and then the

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Speaker 1: I mean, there have been.

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Speaker 3: Some decision making in the last month where you're scratching

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: That is the end game to all of this, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson or John Harball one has to go. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen are two great example, same draft class of

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Speaker 1: Year eight. This is year eight in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 3: When you and I were growing up, how many guys

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Speaker 1: No, look you're eight. They were done. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: it's time to do something else. Right, So it's time

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Speaker 1: I gotta get rid of Rheem Morris. And you said

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Speaker 1: that once the Jets didn't well, but that cold study

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Speaker 1: Dad gets into things now because what's happened When those

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Speaker 1: interview with these guys, right, Like Davis Webb has emerged

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Speaker 1: levels of success in a really weak year for candidates,

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Speaker 1: the next Mike McDonald Kyle Shanahan. I get that, but

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Speaker 1: to an extent, Raheem Morris, all guys who were fired.

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Speaker 1: I really like Harball, I really like Morris, I really

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Speaker 1: what do you go? The Lakers are back. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the end season tournament championship, I'm ready for to raise

428
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Speaker 1: the banner. That's why they're not doing it now.

429
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Speaker 3: At the closed door was still more to plan a

430
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Speaker 3: parade route. The celebration would.

431
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Speaker 1: Be why are we playing? This makes no sense. They

432
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Speaker 1: were voting on catering when I watched confetti come down,

433
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Speaker 1: and you're wearing hats, championship hats and T shirts. It's over.

434
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Speaker 1: It's over, and the championship is here. It's absolutely over, right.

435
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why again, I don't know why we're

436
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Speaker 1: still playing basketball. I really don't. College basketball is sure

437
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: we got to get to March at the NBA. Why

438
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Speaker 1: we are inside the next one? I saw it a lot, but.

439
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: Again it's it's a new season. I mean, reset the

440
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Speaker 3: records and get after it, because really that's kind of

441
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Speaker 3: what we do as we get to the end of

442
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: just like that's freezing because look at all of a sudden,

443
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Speaker 3: the Clippers are good.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well there, I don't know that they're good,

445
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: easy good. Yeah, but yeah, but it's but I didn't

446
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Speaker 1: say great, but be going. But before that they had

447
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: lost like twenty five of thirty. That was the preseason

448
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: when your Knicks won the title. Again, I don't know

449
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Speaker 1: why we're still playing basketball. Why are guys being interviewed?

450
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Why am I watching the right The season's over. We won.

451
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: I saw it in Vegas. Had happened. It's over. The

452
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Knicks won the title. Did you cash that ticket? Yeah,

453
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 1: Knicks champions. I can squint at it and go that

454
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: it looks like a Larry O'Brien Trophy ticket right there.

455
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: I could do that. I could do that. That was

456
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Speaker 1: you know, that was the one time I could say

457
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Speaker 1: I could see what my life in retirement from from

458
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: working would be, like I would easually say, oh, the

459
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Speaker 1: Knicks are playing in Vegas. Let's go to Vegas for

460
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Speaker 1: for four days. Let's go to Vegas for four days ago.

461
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Speaker 1: Because I don't have work for Payton spend a lot

462
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Speaker 1: of money on tickets, that's for sure. I could be

463
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Speaker 1: a seat filler and see yeah, hey, you're not dressed

464
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Speaker 1: appropriate now. Yeah, pay would love to go to Vegas

465
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Speaker 1: four days see a couple of games. Yeah, but I

466
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Speaker 1: can't do that because I got to sit next to

467
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Speaker 1: you every night and you know, and talk about sports

468
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: and let everybody know. Now things are gonna go over

469
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Speaker 1: the course of next once, because you know, we predict

470
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Speaker 1: the future pretty well. Yeah, but like for time, like, yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: I would easily do that. Oh, I'll go to Vegas

472
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Speaker 1: for four days. Yes, you're go see a couple of games. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: tickets are basically free, they're giving them away, all right.

474
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Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, but then you start negotiating. Look, I'll be

475
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Speaker 3: a seed filler, but I need a ticket to the back.

476
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Speaker 3: You gotta give me something of value if I'm gonna

477
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Speaker 3: go out here.

478
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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of Vegas, this gets to a store that's

479
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Speaker 1: now bled into its second day that I just want

480
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Speaker 1: to say that this is not me saying, oh, you

481
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Speaker 1: say bad things about my team. I think you're an idiot.

482
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Speaker 1: This is me saying, hey, you say bad things about

483
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Speaker 1: my team I agree with, but still you kind of

484
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Speaker 1: look like an idiot. So Todd McShay, who longtime ESPN

485
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Speaker 1: ad I did shows with Todd. You know Todd. Todd's

486
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Speaker 1: a good dude. Got clicks a day ago by saying, Hey,

487
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Speaker 1: if you're Dante Moore, you call the Raiders to see

488
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Speaker 1: if they'll draft you number one overall, and if they won't,

489
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Speaker 1: you say, I'm going back to Oregon because nobody in

490
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Speaker 1: this draft wants to be a Jet. Okay, and said

491
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Speaker 1: it was really, what do you say nobody wants to

492
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Speaker 1: be a Jet? Now, let's let's be realistic on it,

493
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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be realistic before I tell you why.

494
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Speaker 1: Todd mcshay's full of it, right. So, and now everybody

495
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: wants to know with the game coming up Dante more,

496
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: what kind of game does he have to have you

497
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: go back? What kind of money would it be for

498
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: Oregon to keep them? Would it be seven to ten

499
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: million dollars? Do they have it for him?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Do I think players generally are thrilled with being Jets. No,

502
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: but someone's gonna get taken number two overall, someone's gonna

503
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: be incredibly happy. They're gonna hold up the Jets jersey

504
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go play. Right, But do I really

505
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: think the Jets are are a team that people are

506
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Speaker 1: going crazy to go play for. No, the Jets are

507
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: an absolute train wreck, right, I get that, But there's

508
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Speaker 1: still one of thirty two, and people like to be employed,

509
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: they like to play, and they're gonna go play for

510
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Speaker 1: the Jets.

511
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Speaker 5: Right.

512
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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that I don't disagree that. Hey, the Jets

513
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: ruined quarterbacks. Whatever the Jets do is wrong, right. Whatever

514
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: they decide to do is wrong, right, Whatever they decide

515
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: to do is wrong. I understand that because I get that. Now,

516
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 1: no matter what they do, this seems like it's right,

517
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Speaker 1: which means it's wrong. It means whatever decision they make

518
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Speaker 1: is gonna wind up being wrong. So I understand, However,

519
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: just the way to prove that point by saying, I

520
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Speaker 1: call the Raiders to see if they take me number

521
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Speaker 1: one overall, not, I call the Cowboys, I call the

522
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I call the Steelers. I call these

523
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Speaker 1: well runnitions good that are picking number one overall put

524
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys right, Well, but cowboys are relatives. Yeah, still

525
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: still good overall. This is yeah, run, yeah, yeah, this

526
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Speaker 1: is so. What he's saying is that, oh, the Raiders

527
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Speaker 1: are the Deaths are a destination. The Raiders are the

528
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Speaker 1: biggest tire fire alongside the Jets. And you could say

529
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Speaker 1: they're even a worse tire fire because they've been worse

530
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Speaker 1: for longer than the Jets have been. They don't develop

531
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks either, they don't develop anybody. They are an absolute mess.

532
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: You saw reports say how dysfunctional they were last year.

533
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Speaker 1: You hire a first year GM and a seventy four

534
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Speaker 1: year old head coach, and Tom Brady is jumping in

535
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Speaker 1: and making decisions. The Raiders are an absolute tire fire.

536
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Speaker 1: Don't sit here and tell me, oh, yeah, I call

537
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Speaker 1: the Red Really you want to go to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I don't think for Naro Mendoza one to be a Raider, really,

539
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Speaker 1: I don't think he does. I don't think Dante Moore

540
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Speaker 1: wants to be a Raider. But Todd McShay hates the Jets.

541
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Speaker 1: He's friends with Joe Douglas. I understand that nobody wants

542
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Speaker 1: to be a Jet but dude, nobody wants to be

543
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Speaker 1: a Raider either. Okay, don't don't suddenly sit here and

544
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Speaker 1: tell me that, Hey, Vegas is a big destination for

545
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Speaker 1: NFL players. No one's excited coming out saying I want

546
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Speaker 1: to go play for the Raiders. I weep for Fernando Mendoza.

547
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: Think about what's gonna happen to him coming from Indiana,

548
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: which is this program that we stand up and say,

549
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: look at the shining light. They've been all the positivity

550
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: he's been able to experience the last year in Indiana,

551
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Speaker 1: this incredible wave of doing things well and being the

552
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: little engine that could, and now they're a power and

553
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Speaker 1: he wins the Heisman Trophy. All of this success that

554
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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has been able to succeed with in Indiana,

555
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Speaker 1: He's gonna go to the Raiders. It's gonna be what

556
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Speaker 1: the blank is going on here? Man? Things were better

557
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: when I was in college, when I was in Bloomington,

558
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: things were better than this. Man. What the hell? He's

559
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: used to an incredibly great way of life and just

560
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: waking up every day and songbirds singing outside the door

561
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: and it's like Bell from Beauty. The Beast is going

562
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: is singing every morning, every morning, morning, Bell morning, sir,

563
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: little town Bloomington, Like that's f Danda Mendoza right now,

564
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna go to Vegas. It's Ody's whoa, whoa, whoa,

565
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, dude, I really this is this is not

566
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Speaker 1: what I thought it was gonna be. And the Raiders

567
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: will ruin him, just like the Jets will ruin whoever

568
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Speaker 1: they take. So to suddenly say to say, oh I

569
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Speaker 1: go and call the Raiders, that's a load of crap.

570
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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be a Raider either. If it was

571
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Speaker 1: a different team picking number one, if it was the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: if it was the Broncos, it was a Giants, it

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Speaker 1: was a okay, yeah, I get it. You want to

574
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Speaker 1: go to one of those teams. And if the other

575
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Speaker 1: team is the Jets, maybe you want to take your chance.

576
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Speaker 1: But it's the Raiders picking number one. Man, Okay, they're

577
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: just as bad as the Jets at everything. Okay, the

578
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Jets and the Raiders are equally have been equally worthless

579
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Speaker 1: of franchises the last twenty some odd years. So let's

580
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Speaker 1: just stop with this whole. Oh yeah, the Raiders are

581
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: the destination.

582
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Speaker 3: The Jets aren't number two last year Travis Hunter four year,

583
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: forty six points sixty five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what emblem is on the side of

585
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Speaker 1: the helmet. I'm moving on.

586
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: But the reality is when we talk about these teams

587
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: that perennially draft up top, you recognize what it is.

588
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: If you have any modicum of success, you're a hero.

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00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Right.

590
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: So we talk about what's the most desirable coaching job?

591
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 3: So I point to the ownership and where they are

592
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: they hands off? Do they want a bunch of the

593
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: shine and what's the history there? The GM are they installed?

594
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Are they long long established? Do you know how they operate?

595
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Or they one or two year kind of guys engstrand

596
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Speaker 3: in your case with the Jets, and you're looking at

597
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, spy tech and whatever. The Tom Brady system

598
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: is there. But if you could resurrect those programs, look,

599
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: you get don't get any extra bonus points if you

600
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: make the Tennessee Titans relevant. Okay, a couple of noise

601
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Speaker 3: makers and folks will be excited in the state of Tennessee.

602
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: But from a National.

603
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: Football League perspective, if you can make the Jets or

604
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Speaker 3: the Raiders relevant, and you've got two huge platforms. Like

605
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: if you're a quarterback, you're a hero when you walk in.

606
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 3: Now you see that the odds have been against you,

607
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: and literally in Vegas and then they're stacked against you

608
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Speaker 3: history wise.

609
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: But everybody wants to be the guy to fix it. Right.

610
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: We talk about it with quarterback whispering coaches all the time. Yeah,

611
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: bring me that guy that's been bounced around. I can

612
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: fix them. Same thing here. If you're a quarterback, the

613
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: hubris and the confidence, that's the only thing that's getting

614
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: you to the top. It's like any business, any enterprise

615
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: that you're doing. You gotta have a little bit of arrogance,

616
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of cockiness to it. You gotta take

617
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: care of your people around you, no question about it.

618
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Speaker 3: But you don't become great at anything without, you know,

619
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Speaker 3: having that air to you of this is how I

620
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: gotta go and do it. And for a quarterback Mendoza

621
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Speaker 3: or more or all these guys to I mean, it's

622
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Speaker 3: a great hot, hot take, right. But to your point,

623
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Speaker 3: perennial dumpster fire, how many coaches since Gruden what is

624
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: his five?

625
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many guys are on the pair And it's

626
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: only been eight weeks since John Gruden got fired, and

627
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: they've had five head coaches. They've fired as many coaches

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Speaker 1: as he's opened boxes on YouTube. Oh really, okay, so

629
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Speaker 1: hang on, wait you got that? Hey, I got another

630
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: one over here? What's gonna be? And where's that one from?

631
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Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, I'm going through the coaches.

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00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: How many boxes has he opened on YouTube? He gets

634
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: a lot? Oh he does. Okay, all right. So it's

635
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: so I mean.

636
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: A little bit of hyperbole, but it's like, hey, I

637
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: got another one here, and he starts going through and

638
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: hears all sorts of gear that gets sent to him,

639
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: and he talks about his buddies, uh and whatever else.

640
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: But remember Ben Dooz also started with the California Golden Bears.

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Speaker 1: So he's he's seen bad. Yeah, no, he has. It's

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Speaker 1: been a Disney movie for him now, absolutely little town

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Speaker 1: standing in the middle of the cobble studdy. He's about

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Speaker 1: as positive as it is. I mean, the stuffed with

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Speaker 1: his mom. I'm in all the good works he's done

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Speaker 1: and anything. Now he would go to Sin City and

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Speaker 1: he could be.

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Speaker 3: The guys at the corner. Come on, I'll take you

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Speaker 3: from the depths of hell and rise up. So just

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Speaker 3: and for more with the Jets, I could be the

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Speaker 3: King of New York. See we got more show tunes.

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Speaker 3: See we keep doing this.

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Speaker 1: Exit out bout of Frasca, exit swallendb Yeah, don't sit

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Speaker 1: here and try to tell me the Raiders are this

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Speaker 1: big destination. Time not to find out what's trending in

656
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Speaker 1: the wide world of sports. From a guy who's been

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Speaker 1: called the gust on of Fox Sports Radio. No in wrestling,

658
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: no one quite bites like Steve de Sager. He's got

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Speaker 1: what's trending.

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Speaker 5: You really know, your Beauty of the beast lyrics here

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Speaker 5: for those who weren't playing along at home, that is

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Speaker 5: one of the great animated movies ever.

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Speaker 1: Made in our lifetime. Wouldn't you agree? You know? And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing is, you always know when you time

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Speaker 1: you're okay having tough conversations with your kid, when your

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Speaker 1: kid turns to you and says, dad, what happened to

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Speaker 1: Gaston at the end, Oh what happened to Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: he just he fell down. Yeah he didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 1: fall off the bridge and dies. He back in the sequel,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about But that's just it. They always left

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Speaker 1: it open with the guys falling into the mist. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: ever since they killed off Darth Maul, they realized, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when someone falls down a shaft, we can't show them dying.

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Speaker 1: We want to bring them back. So okay, well he

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Speaker 1: comes back in spider form Dado. Yeah, no, he just

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Speaker 1: fell and you can't see him through. It's through the fog.

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Speaker 1: It's all good. Well, missieurs.

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Speaker 5: We had NFL news today with Baltimore Ravens firing John Harbaugh.

679
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 5: He had been with the Ravens for eighteen seasons, was

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Speaker 5: under contract through twenty twenty eight. The Lions fired offensive

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Speaker 5: coordinator John Morton after one season. Dallas fired defensive coordinator

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Speaker 5: Matt Eberflus after one Washington fired its offensive and defensive

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Speaker 5: coordinators Cliff Kingsbury and Joe Witt. Junior Rams wide receiver

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Speaker 5: DeVante Adams was a full participate in today's walk through.

685
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Speaker 5: He's missed the last three games with a hamstring injury,

686
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Speaker 5: and the Rams activated safety Quenton the Lake.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver of the Bears.

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Speaker 5: Romadonsa was limited at one walk through with his foot injury,

689
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Speaker 5: as was wide receiver Dj Moore with a knee injury.

690
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Speaker 5: Falcons quarterback Kirk Cousins restructured his contract so he could

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Speaker 5: be a free agent this year. Ohio state wide receiver

692
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Speaker 5: Carnell Tay declared for the NFL Draft. Washington quarterback Demon

693
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Speaker 5: Williams says he will transfer, but he did sign a

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Speaker 5: deal with Washington just last week. In the NBA, there's

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Speaker 5: one late game starting still a half hour from now, Sacrometo,

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Speaker 5: losers of five straight, hosting Dallas Kings. Forward Keegan Murray

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Speaker 5: will miss at least three to four weeks with his

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Speaker 5: sprained ankle Minnesota and Memphis with wins. That Grizzlies victory

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Speaker 5: at home was one o six, one oh five over

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Speaker 5: San Antonio, Victor Wemba and Yama off the bench after

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Speaker 5: the hyper extended. He had thirty points in twenty one minutes.

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Speaker 5: Victories for Cleveland, Washington, and the Lakers, who won at

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Speaker 5: New Orleans won eleven one oh three thirty points each

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Speaker 5: for Lukadnsich and Lebron James. Pelicans have lost eight straight.

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Speaker 5: Luka Doncitz leads the fan voting for next month's All

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Speaker 5: Star Game to Kola Jokic, number two in the West.

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Speaker 5: To college basketball on FS one early second half. Number

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Speaker 5: seven Houston as the lead at home thirty seven to

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Speaker 5: thirty five against fourteenth rank Texas Tech. At number twenty

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Speaker 5: two Kansas TCUs in the lead over the Jayhawks fifty

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Speaker 5: six to fifty early second half. Number two Michigan won

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Speaker 5: at Penn State seventy four to seventy two. Duke came

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Speaker 5: back to win at Louisville, Florida upset Georgia. NHL Islanders

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Speaker 5: nine nothing over New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Back to you so close game Islanders in the for.

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Speaker 5: The largest shutout in the Isles history.

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Speaker 1: Nine nothing. These scores are like back from the Some

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Speaker 1: of these scores this year like back from the eighties

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Speaker 1: in hockey. Like I said, Wow, it's six to two

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Speaker 1: in the third beer, okay, great? Six points for Gretzky,

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Speaker 1: seven for Curry. That's right, Thank you, Steve. The Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen coming up next.

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Speaker 1: One high profile NFL team made a big move today

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Speaker 1: and after this move, I can solve their biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: And yes it is the Cowboys that's next, right here, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tys shouldn't want to make a deal with you,

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Speaker 1: another deal with you? Oh right now. We made the

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Speaker 1: deal that you had to stop playing running up that

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Speaker 1: Hill when the new season of Stranger Things, the final

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Speaker 1: season came out. Right, okay, done, we figured that out. Deal,

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Speaker 1: I miss tucking. Anyways, you you have to stop playing

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Speaker 1: this song. What if Tears for Fears comes out with

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Speaker 1: a new album, if they ever come out with it,

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Speaker 1: I know there's no egg get you to stop playing it.

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal. If they ever come out with

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Speaker 1: a new album, you have to stop playing this song.

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Speaker 1: I've got a very good feeling that they have an

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Speaker 1: album coming out. No, I have no idea. I just

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Speaker 1: thought about it now I written. No, I have no

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Speaker 1: idea if Tears or Fears new they are touring in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, He sais a deal? What do I

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Speaker 1: get out?

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Speaker 3: So if it's a new album, okay, here's it could

747
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Speaker 3: just be a live or Greatest Hits kind of mash

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Speaker 3: up with one new song Tear's the Cower's release Easton

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Speaker 3: album last year. So I think you're good for a

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Speaker 3: little while. Like, I mean, how many how often it

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Speaker 3: is Tears Frears releasing the.

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Speaker 1: Albums released an album. A little bit over a year ago,

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Speaker 1: they released album So I think you're okay, I'm so confused.

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Speaker 1: Why are you confused? What do I get out of

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00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: this deal? No, you get to play a different song.

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00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: I could play it and just say no, no, you

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Speaker 1: don't do that. But I could no, because then we're

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Speaker 1: in some sort of music arbitration with our bosses at Fox,

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Speaker 1: and it's about you know, playing songs or not. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to music arbitration. I'll make that deal, all right.

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Speaker 3: Saw. It really enrages Jason when he when he hears

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Speaker 3: the opening chords, like it triggers the beasts, like the

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Speaker 3: Red Hulk comes out. So it says here, hang on,

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Speaker 3: does Tears for Fears have a new album coming out?

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Speaker 3: And the last thing Ai says is the album that

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Speaker 3: came out late in October.

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Speaker 1: Of twenty four. Ay, I didn't tell you who is that?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, it just says, there you go. The album

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Speaker 1: features live recording of the band's concert, so they actually

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Speaker 1: know who they are. You had an out? Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: AI knows Tears for Fears. Yes, it sounds like they

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Speaker 1: do song for a nervous planet? Yes, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Well I guess okay, all right, So now so that's

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Speaker 1: the deal, right, we stopped playing the song of tears.

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Speaker 1: Refers has a new album coming out. Now I'm gonna

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: get on tears for Fiir's mailing list, and hey, I'm

777
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna flood them with spam. What are you guys coming

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Speaker 1: out with a new album? Man, I can't wait, can't wait.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time. I'll be like KD. I'll

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Speaker 1: just be sending out all kinds of stuff, just ever

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: every twice a week. You gotta be like do frame.

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00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: So today big move in the NFL. The Cowboys, we

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00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: knew this was happening. They fired defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. Right,

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Speaker 1: the team's now getting rid of anything connected to the

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Speaker 1: old Chicago Bears. Not the New Bears of Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 1: but the old Chicago Bears. Everybody this start. This is

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: like in Goodfellas when they started to get rid of

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Speaker 1: everybody with the Luftanza robbery. Yeah, when they found CARBONI

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Speaker 1: was frozen so solid to him. Two weeks to do

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Speaker 1: the autopsy. Right, So this is what's happened all the

791
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: old Bears guys all they're all getting shunted away. So

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00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I get it now. If you really want to change

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00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: things with the Cowboys, you want to know what to

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: do in the offseason because you look at this last

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00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: year of dysfunction, where on the eve of the regular season,

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones says, oh, gotta stop the run, Gonna trade

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00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Maca Parsons away. Yeah, sorry about that, and then having

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Speaker 1: to make moves in the middle of the season by

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Speaker 1: going out and getting Quinn Williams from the Jets, giving

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00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: up a couple of big draft picks, and here they

801
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: are again out of the playoffs. Right, how do you

802
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: solve this? How do you stop this cycle of insanity

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00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys being just good enough to be contenders.

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00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're good enough to win ten games, eleven games.

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00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're not good enough to make the playoffs. They

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00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: play one playoff game, they're out. How do you avoid this?

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott needs to step up. He's got his money

808
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: and he's got to very publicly challenge Jerry Jones and

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00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: talk about the moves that the Cowboys need to make

810
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: because nobody else will. Right, it shouldn't be the quarterbacks

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: place to do that right. But Brian Schottenheimer's not gonna

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00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: do it. Everybody scared. Jerry Schotnim is not gonna do

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00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: it right, Jerry Jones's kid's not gonna do it. Steven's

814
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: not gonna say, hey, Dad, we gotta start doing to

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Speaker 1: It's not happening anywhere else. Dak Prescott has to be

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Speaker 1: the one at a press conference sometime to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're doing trading our best defensive

818
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: player the night before the regular season. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We can't do stuff like that. We can't do it.

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00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: He's got to question things like that because that gets

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Speaker 1: all this dysfunction out in the open, and it stops

822
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Speaker 1: bad decisions from happening. Dak Prescott's gotta go public and

823
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Speaker 1: say we gotta pay Micah Parsons. I don't know what

824
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Speaker 1: it's all about, but I'll get involved if I have to.

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00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: You hear teammates talk about Dak's leadership style. Stuff he

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Speaker 1: does away from the field, which is awesome, right, how

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Speaker 1: he visits former teammates when they're going through difficulties. Like

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00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Dak's got a pretty good leadership style, but he now

829
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: has to go public and challenge the owner of the team,

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: because nothing else is gonna change. Jerry Jones is gonna

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Speaker 1: continue the cycle of mediocrity and bad decisions and bad money,

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Speaker 1: some good money, mostly bad money. Nobody else is gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. He got paid, he's quarterback. He's the one

834
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Speaker 1: that has to say, Hey, we got to be doing

835
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Speaker 1: things a little bit differently. We can't make decisions like this.

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Speaker 1: We need we need a shut down cornerback. Now. We

837
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: can't get rid of Trevon Diggs, whatever you want to say.

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00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: He needs to be that guy that's the checks and

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00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: balances because then maybe things will run a little bit differently.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they will, but you're in hail

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00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: Mary time right now, at Jerry Jones running the Cowboys,

842
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: and nobody else is stepping up to say stuff. Dak's

843
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: got to be the guy to publicly challenge him, and

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Speaker 1: then maybe things will change and there will be an

845
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Speaker 1: adjustment and attitude, There'll be adjustment in strategy and things

846
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: could get better for the Cowboys.

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 3: Remember when James Harden was in China and started saying

848
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Speaker 3: I want out.

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Speaker 2: He didn't hear it in the bag.

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Speaker 3: I want out for Dak Prescott. You know we were

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Speaker 3: talking about the arc, the life cycle of an NFL career.

852
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: He's twenty sixteen, man, he's two more years beyond where

853
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: Alan and Lamar Jackson, who's gonna get himself a new

854
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: coach here in short order, are in their careers. And

855
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: he had what you would argue is the best best

856
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: year that he's had, either top or second best year

857
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: of his career.

858
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: This year.

859
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: You gotta found some gold in the run game. You

860
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 3: bring in George Pickens because he's got to start lobbying

861
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: for him now, right, because that's where you're at. The

862
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: next thing, the defensive side the game. Look, you get

863
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: rid of Michaeh Parsons, You're you're taking a huge chip

864
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: off the table. You had eighteen weeks to figure it

865
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: out and stop the bleeding. Whatever went on with Trevon Diggs,

866
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: that's a he said, he said story. Try to figure

867
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: out what happened in the locker room. Eberflus making excuses again.

868
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: You deal with the cards.

869
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: You had to treat it like he got hurt and

870
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: was done for the year, and lo and behold, someone

871
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: showed up to help you try to stop the run.

872
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: Would it have changed how you approached the off season. Sure,

873
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: would it have changed how Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones

874
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: and approached the off season.

875
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Sure, but you can't.

876
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: You can't cry over the old uh spilled milk or

877
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: spilt as I spilt milk would.

878
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: Have been in in my Chicago Ease. It's milk not milk.

879
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a glass of milk. Yeah, m e

880
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: l k like melk kuiper. I'm gonna have a glass

881
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: of milk kiper, melk kipe, melk kiper, that's you think

882
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: of them, elk melk. Is there good hair in that glass?

883
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: That is great? Are you kidding? That hair is fantastic? Man,

884
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't get past the hair to get

885
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: to the mess that's enhanced hair. There's no question. That's

886
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: me legit. Milk Kay is not one of the spice girls,

887
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: is she? There's melb melc mels baby spice, ginger spice,

888
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: sport that's five sporty. But there's no milk.

889
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: No.

890
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, although milk kiper one of the spots. That'd be

891
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Like they do they dance, they do cop

892
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of song and then he evaluates the song.

893
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: That's good, full throated endorsement or denigration exit U about

894
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: a Fresca exit swollen dome.

895
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we get back into the biggest breaking

896
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: story out of the NFL today, Jason and fucks even

897
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: with on cable television obviously on broadcast TV. Hey, what's

898
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna get you to continue to watch next week? The

899
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: next week, the next week? But now the shows get

900
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: entire seasons and they stream, especially when you get someone

901
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: who is so respected as Vince Gilligan. It's his first

902
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: thing after better call Saul. Hey, here's you know, eight

903
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: nine episodes, and I want you to experience this in

904
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: its totality, so when you go back and have repeated

905
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: viewings because now everything is available on every streaming service. Hey,

906
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: this is a story I wanted to tell. And there's

907
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: a reason why there was a little fat in this

908
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: episode and more fat in this episode, because it's important

909
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: to the storyline that we put this out there. And

910
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot of shows are doing that now,

911
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: where individual episodes are really bloated because they get caught

912
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: up at the creativity angle of it. Go, we can

913
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: do something really cool. You know what, You still got

914
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: to entertain me, You still got to make me want

915
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: to keep watching. You want to make sure I don't

916
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: have time to go down and play a game on

917
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 1: my iPad while I'm watching don't be an iPad TV

918
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: show where I can watch you and I can play

919
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: along with my iPad and not have to worry about, uh,

920
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: anything else, right like, And that's kind of what Pluribus

921
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: has become. It's a it's not a show that I

922
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: have to sit and make sure, Okay, shut everything down,

923
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: let's watch it, right, it was, it's it's a great show. Look,

924
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: it's got the same The same feel is better, call Saul.

925
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: The same feel is breaking bad. But it's just really

926
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: it drags, and especially the last two or three episodes

927
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: to get to where we thought we were gonna get

928
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: to three episodes ago. Yeah, you gotta move a little

929
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: bit faster. So what you're saying is you have more

930
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: rapt attention towards is it cake? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I

931
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: love it because then I know I know I'm gonna

932
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: get the answer it's cake. It's not cake. But here's

933
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: the right, Sammit. I thought it was cake. It's like

934
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: watching The Stranger Things finale. It's okay, No, it's just

935
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: a metal pipe, damn it. The Simpsons when when uh,

936
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: when they said and coming up, oh, we have to

937
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: postpone our guest, Joan van ark and more citon sense,

938
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: it never turns out to be Joan van arc I

939
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: thought it was cake. That's not cake. Oh that's definitely cake.

940
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: That's not cake. That was that not cake? That looks

941
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: like cake. That's cake.

942
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: But being that, you you've got to build all this

943
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: extra stuff in stranger things or whatever else, just in

944
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: case you decide to write something else. You know what,

945
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: we could go back to that random detail that you

946
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: didn't like, that you thought was Fluff's episode two. Yeah,

947
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 3: that was actually really important. Yeah, you know, like the

948
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: floating bunny. All right, go back to breaking back. Sure

949
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: didn't matter, right, But instead now it becomes a big thing. Hey,

950
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, or the ducks.

951
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: But when you when you get that cachet of everything

952
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: you've done has been great, we'll give you creative control.

953
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: This is where I go. Yeah, creative control is not

954
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: always a great thing, because now, just a lunatic, I'm

955
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna give you here's a four and a half minute

956
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: scene of a guy making eggs. Okay, can we make

957
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: that thirty seconds set of four and a half, but no,

958
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: okay for half. The other part.

959
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 3: I mean it's all about process, especially a good egg

960
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 3: making like making the cake.

961
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Trust the process, trust the process.

962
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: Just like baking a cake. Trust there's a formula just

963
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: like cooking trust in a lab.

964
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: If Walter trust the process exactly, is that trust the process?

965
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: Is that meth cake? No, it's not meth cake. That's

966
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: a new show that's showing out next level. Is that cake?

967
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Or is a cakeer meth? Well, let's watch how he

968
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: reacts to this in five minutes. I'm pretty sure that

969
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: was meth. Oh boy, I thought it was cake.

970
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 4: Wow.

971
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel so good because the other part is,

972
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 3: even if you're playing a game, your iPads so good,

973
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: I don't think you have met in air. Now, that

974
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: would be one hell of a drug. I mean Chapelle's show.

975
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: I mean, let's bring everything and turn over every rock.

976
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: But the idea being I'm also if you're on your iPad, phone,

977
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: second device baking a.

978
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: Cage, you're still watching. Yeah, I still get credible.

979
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: And and if I'm Vince Gilligan, I already know I

980
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: can have someone walk out and just said wait for

981
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: season two and you're gonna come back.

982
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: It's just but I feel like that's kind of a

983
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: push now with television shows, is that, hey, we have

984
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: this carte blanche, We're going to tell you this long,

985
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: bloated story, right like for Stranger Things, I'll tell you

986
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: this much. Right, you've heard a lot about I'll tell

987
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: you this Stranger Things. As it became a bigger phenomenon

988
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: than just a regular TV show that was a hit,

989
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: it became its own thing, its own energy, the stars,

990
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: the careers it's launched or brought back. It's incredible. But

991
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: five seasons, it was pretty redundant. And if you wanted

992
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: to say, how do you make the best Stranger Things experience,

993
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: it's the entire first season, which was incredibly well done,

994
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of the second season and third season,

995
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: then tiny bit of the fourth season and the fifth season.

996
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: Right like, you cut that to three seasons, and season

997
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: one is season one its entirety, Season two is a

998
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: little bit of season two and most of season three

999
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: with the mall and everything else, and the last season

1000
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 1: is half of season four and half of season five. Great,

1001
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: you would have an incredible three season show that the

1002
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: life of this show people would talk about is it's

1003
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: one of the best dramas, one of the best shows

1004
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: that's ever come out. It would be on that metal

1005
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: stand with Breaking Bed and Better Call Saw, the Sopranos,

1006
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: the Wire, West Wing, whatever you want. It's all out there.

1007
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: But the fact that the second season was kind of derivative,

1008
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: and the fourth and fifth seasons were just kind of there,

1009
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I feel like, boy, they

1010
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: really could have done something. But I get there's a demand,

1011
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: there's money to be made. I understand, but you're talking about,

1012
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, the quality of the show. That would have

1013
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: been a much better Stranger Thing. Well, you and I

1014
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: are going to reboot the goat Boy Saturday line.

1015
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: Jim Brewer skin, Hey, remember the eighties based on the

1016
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: strength of Stranger Things?

1017
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: You know season five?

1018
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: I mean because I'm surprised we haven't started hearing a

1019
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 3: certain artist from season yeah.

1020
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh oh, by the way, what do you mean. I

1021
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: never needed the song. We didn't need that song. I'm sorry,

1022
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Sadie's sick. Nobody needed that song. I didn't need the song.

1023
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: I could have been okay, sorry spoiler, I would have

1024
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: been okay. I didn't need the song. So we didn't

1025
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: need that song. We didn't need running up that hill.

1026
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: We didn't need it at all. You didn't need the

1027
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: song that song, No, we didn't need Hey, No, that's

1028
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: her artistic Interpretationous songs no more valid than yours are mine.

1029
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Just go I could come back to my friends. We

1030
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: didn't need this song. Nobody needed that the song. The

1031
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: song made millions, nobody need.

1032
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: The song was burned, indelibly, etched into our brain forever,

1033
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 3: made her a Hall of Famer.

1034
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: So a little bit of TV there, but I'm glad

1035
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: Tyche I wanted to get on that pluribus there. But uh, look, today,

1036
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: obviously the biggest story in the NFL has been the

1037
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: firing of John Harbaugh, which which was initially we're parting

1038
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: ways and then an hour later is no, we're dumping

1039
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: that guy. He lost the locker room everybody, all of

1040
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, Harbaugh was awful. Right now, another reason why

1041
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: this needed to happen, right, we talked about at the

1042
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: beginning of the show. The only two constants this entire

1043
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: run has been John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson, right, and

1044
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson's not going anywhere. So that's why

1045
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: we said in in September, Hey, if they don't win

1046
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: this year. Harball's out right. We were way ahead of

1047
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: the curve on that right, What about.

1048
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: That if they'd gone the other way? Bold move cotton. Yeah,

1049
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 3: we're we're geting. We're gonna trade off Lamar Jacks Lamar

1050
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: Jackson stick out in a Jets uniform. Oh emmaculates how

1051
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: the Jets would ruin Lamar Jackson. We don't want you

1052
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 3: to run at all. Just throw from the pocket. Wait

1053
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: what yeah, just throw from the pocket.

1054
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: That's a no, you know what. We don't want you

1055
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to throw it all. Just run, that's all. We would

1056
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: just run. They put the forest gump braces on it,

1057
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: like we know you can't run. We still got the

1058
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: justin fields plays left over. We think Tennor Rankstrom would

1059
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: have had good something. So we're just gonna run. You're

1060
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: not gonna throw the ball. So you know that it

1061
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be Lamar over over at Harbaugh. Now, the

1062
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: thing about Lamar Jackson is this is why you had

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00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: to do it. He's more than midway through his career

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00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: as a running quarterback. Maybe you're hoping three four years

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00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: left of Lamar and again he's having trouble so far.

1066
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: Wasn't the same guy. This year injury started to mount,

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00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: you needed to do something new because right now, just

1068
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: think about this, every couple of generationsations you see things

1069
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: repeat itself. And if you had to say, okay, who's

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00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, If you're comparing him to a quarterback in

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00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: NFL history, and this tells you why a move had

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Speaker 1: to be made, Who's Lamar Jackson? Lamar Jackson is Dan Marino?

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa Lamar Jackson is Dan Marino? Because you go

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00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: back and you look the eighties and the nineties, Marino.

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00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Look Marino top five quarterback of all time in the

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00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: NFL up until that point of his career, and every

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00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: year he fell short, got to the Super Bowl, second year,

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00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: never got back. And it was never because well, Dan

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00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Marino was terrible. Some playoff games he was bad, Some

1080
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: playoff games he was great. Some playoff games the defense

1081
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: failed him. Sometimes they turned the ball over, sometimes they

1082
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: couldn't score. But the one constant was, hey, you know

1083
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: him and Don Shula all the way through, they never

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00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: got back. That Dan Marino is the was always the

1085
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: poster boy for a best quarterback to never win a

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00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Guess who's gonna take that Mantle by the

1087
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: time it's all said done, right now, Lamar Jackson's gonna

1088
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: take that away. Now, different quarterbacks, different skill sets, obviously,

1089
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: but this is Lamar Jackson. The guy's been multiple MVP

1090
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: still one of the top five quarterbacks in the game,

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00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: has been one of the top five quarterbacks in the game.

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00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: And right now, if you said, what's your legacy, he's

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00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: the new Dan Marino's. He's gonna best player to never

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00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl and none of that not even

1095
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: get there. Like, yeah, I'm thinking if if you put

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00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: the over under for Lamar Jackson at Super Bowls just

1097
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: getting to the Super Bowl and you put it at

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00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: a half, a lot of people are gonna say, I'm

1099
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: taking the under on a punder. I mean really, because

1100
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: if he hasn't gotten there, now what do we have.

1101
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: But when you view him through that lens, yeah, there

1102
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: had to be some kind of change because it wasn't

1103
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: whatever was going on wasn't nearly enough. And so when

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00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: you think of Lamar Jackson in that in that way,

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00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, something's got to happen for the next

1106
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: three years ish to try to get him over the hump,

1107
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: because you're wasting his talent over the course of the

1108
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: past decade. So yeah, Lamar Jackson being Dan Marino, that

1109
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 1: had to change.

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00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: Look at you, you went full on Dann Marino because

1111
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: I immediately start thinking about Joe Burrow. Remember my interactions

1112
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: with Bengals fans after his second year appearance in a

1113
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. We're just getting starting. You're in the AMC.

1114
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: Jamar Jackson's over there. Steelers are always good Cleveland. They're Cleveland,

1115
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: but they still made the playoffs a couple of times

1116
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: under Stefanski. But yeah, for Lamar Jackson, this was supposed

1117
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: to be the great roster. We talked with Jason Locking

1118
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: for all the time I do regular appearances in Baltimore,

1119
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: and coming into the season there was a lot of

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00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: excitement about what had been built. Well, we watched no

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00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: pass rush and as also, you know, we were talking

1122
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: with Locking for yesterday. Oh wait, gums, he could never

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Speaker 3: find the quarterback. As a member of the Ravens, Jesse

1124
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Minter somehow found the key and unlocked that and all

1125
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden he's rushing a quarterback and putting up

1126
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: big stats for the Chargers defense. They had no pass

1127
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: rush offensive line. They've been entirely dependent on how healthy

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00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 3: is Ronnie Stanley if you looked at a power bar

1129
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: like he was a video game character, is the above

1130
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: seventy percent? All right, we're gonna be okay, Derek Henry.

1131
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 3: They forget to run the ball at times because this

1132
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 3: is where it's not always in your control, and Lamar

1133
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: Jackson at this point it starts to break down because

1134
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: you can also go to the Cam Newton who's been

1135
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: really chirpy here over the last couple of weeks of

1136
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: getting a lot of run. We utilize him as a

1137
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: guy who was super until he wasn't. Right Bryce Young

1138
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: didn't dive on a fumble on a failed flee flicker?

1139
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: Hey, where have we.

1140
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: Seen that before? Ye? Cam Newton?

1141
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: But once Cam Newton couldn't scramble at the same level

1142
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: that he used to, guess what happened? He became just

1143
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: a guy that cape went off And you're wondering, Josh

1144
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: Allen foot injury, how often is he going to be

1145
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: able to do that? With Lamar Jackson and the number

1146
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: of injuries that he's had, how many times you're gonna

1147
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: be able to do that? And again, that division's not

1148
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: going away Cincinnati. If Joe Burrow is upright, and that

1149
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: remains to be seen out a year to year bases

1150
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 3: based on the roster construction there and now his history.

1151
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: It's not going He's not going away. The Cleveland Browns,

1152
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: they got to get it right at some point, don't

1153
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: they question Mark, and Pittsburgh has not.

1154
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: Really Now you don't have to. They just got enough

1155
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: in division. As a Jets fan, I know you don't

1156
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: have to get it right at some point. That's not

1157
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: something that automatically cut Sanchez, dude, that's what say. I watch,

1158
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: I see all the chat GPT Hey chat GPT predicts

1159
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: the next one hundred Super Bowls, and I look and

1160
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: I go Jets. I don't even see the Jets next

1161
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: one hundred years. I see Burger King winning a Super Bowl,

1162
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: FedEx wins a Super Bowl, but the Jets don't win

1163
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: a Super No One picked. They can't even win a

1164
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: chat GPT Super Bowl. Pop Tart guy smiling ten years ago.

1165
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Look there's a state puff marshmallow Man has back to

1166
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: back in twenty ninety three and twenty ninety four, Jets

1167
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: still don't have one. What all that to say?

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Speaker 3: Right, Pittsburgh as bad as it gets, you know, in

1169
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: terms of noise year to year, what happens. They never

1170
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 3: bought him out. So for Lamar Jets, when we're talking

1171
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 3: about year eight going into year nine, that window is shrinking,

1172
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: all right, like swishing your head like you're the kids

1173
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: in the hall kind of thing, going on to that

1174
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 3: old gag. And you've got to retold this entire roster

1175
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: as quote good as it was. Isaiah Likely made a

1176
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 3: great catch. What was the last time you heard Isaiah

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00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: Likely's name before he made that fourth down?

1178
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Okay, when he had that great first game of the

1179
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: year two years ago and everybody spent all kinds of

1180
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: money in free agent bucks to get him in fantasy. Right, Yeah,

1181
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: that's the last time you heard Isaiah Andrew's got a

1182
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: big contract. What's the two things you remember him? His

1183
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: big contract and dropping that pass? Dropping that pass and

1184
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: then trying the lateral that cost him game. Yeah, but

1185
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's what the dropping the passes really no, yeaheah.

1186
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: No, obviously, I mean we're talking about degrees. But those

1187
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: are two times that you remember him in recent memory.

1188
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry again holding up your the thing like your

1189
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 3: John Cusack and the boom box saying hey, twelve fifty

1190
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: three and twelve seconds plenty of times. It's not always

1191
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: gonna be about Lamar Jackson and his highs and lows.

1192
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: But there are things you're not gonna be able to control,

1193
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: and eventually his powers will dissipate, Kryptonite will show up,

1194
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: and we're hitting that point. So yeah, it could be

1195
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: very much Marina last, but I have to ask this

1196
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 3: is Finkel Einhorn? Einhorn is Finkel? Finkel's a man? Just

1197
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: so you know, Isotonas exit about a Fresco exit? Swollen

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Speaker 3: down the Jason st Show. My best friend Mike Carr,

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Speaker 3: I did do jazz ants there. I did a jazz

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: ants Lamar Jackson, Dan Marino. Yeah, that tells you what

1201
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: change had to be made.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, you want a big bold prediction for

1203
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: this coming off season in the NFL. You want to

1204
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: see a big bull prediction we're gonna make. That's gonna

1205
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: have every single team in the NFL saying maybe we

1206
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: should replace our quarterback. We got that next right here,

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