WEBVTT - The X Clown Game with Steve Smith Sr. | 2003 NFC Divisional Round: Panthers vs. Rams 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 If I hit you down low, that was because I 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.840 didn't respect you. But if I didn't respect you, that 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.720 means also because you hit me down low. So we 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.800 have no regards of each other's career. So guess what, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:12.360 let's do it there. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.800 The head's different. You know, you knock someone out, that's 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.639 that's considered a kiss. You taking out knees, that's considered 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.120 a career. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.120 Yeah. I got to the point where guys knew. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:22.840 I was like, bro, if you hit me low again 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.520 or you cheap shot man, I got one question for you. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.880 When I cut you and they gotta do surgery, my 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.240 question is what kind of flowers you want me to 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:31.639 send you. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.640 Welcome to Games and Names presented by door Dash. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:37.680 I'm Julian Edelman. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.640 They're Jack and Kyler, and we're on a mission to 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.480 find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:49.200 we are covering the two thousand and three NFC Divisional 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.120 Round game between the Panthers and Rams with sixteen year 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:58.800 NFL AT five time pro bowler legendary Panther Steve Smith Senior. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.520 We get into talking who was the toughest corner that 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:02.960 tried to cover? 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.720 Steve Smith, I hate it going against Revis. I just 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.399 remember he was like, really smart, real smart. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.720 What's it like having a walk off touchdown? 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.160 Once I got it, I was like, ain't nobody catching me? 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.360 You were fast? I kind of was. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:16.319 I was surprised. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.080 A fun story with how he almost ended up becoming 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:20.560 a Patriot. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.840 Do you know how close I was? 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.200 I do? 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:24.520 Talk about bags packed? 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.480 You ready what happened to the trade. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.320 Then we wrap it up with finding out what NFL 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.080 teams are, your favorite game day snacks with door Dash, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.800 our favorite food delivery app. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.560 You gotta stick around to the very end. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.880 Let's go Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.080 Let's order something, hire it up, Let's go what are 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.280 we gonna order? 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He you know, peruses the whole menu. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.280 He's a great order man of taste, both in delivery 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.560 and in restaurant, which is a different skill set. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.000 Yep, I just like to I like to share the 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.360 wealth of my my knowledge of food, at least my 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.120 stomach's knowledge of food with my friends. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:27.840 Did you order? 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.240 Ye? I ordered? I ordered good? All right? Quick order? 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:31.720 Nothing crazy, nothing crazy. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.800 Don't don't pat me on the ass right now. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.760 My shit in your goddamn hand with this order? 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:38.000 All right? 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:39.200 Should be here, no time. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:39.680 All right. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.560 Thanks to door Dash for helping us there. Let's go 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.679 to the Steve Smith interview. Let's get into this thing. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:51.480 January tenth, two thousand and four, Edward Jones, don't Saint Louis, Missouri. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.920 The Panthers Rams are tied twenty three to twenty three, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.200 heading into. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:02.160 A double overtime third and forty Dell home jobs back. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.359 He's got Smith streaking down the field on the next clown. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:12.480 This is next clown game. Why are you talk about that? Boys? 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.400 My dog? Do you do? 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.600 Welcome to games with names today, we are looking at 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.840 the two thousand and three NFC Divisional round game between 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.320 the Panthers and the Rams with legendary Steve Smith. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.960 Steve Smith in one sentence, why did you pick this game? 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.880 You guys? That was the only game you guys gave me? 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.840 Is this the only game? Is this the only game 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.920 we gave? I recommended this one hard man. I love 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:46.360 this game. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.600 Jackson from North Carolina. This is when he was watching football. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.560 He was, if we don't do this game, he's gonna 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.600 I'm not complaining, But you asked me, so I was. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.920 I appreciate you. You agree with Steve. I give him thumbs up. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.480 So in one sentence, why is this game so impactful 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:03.160 in your career? 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.400 Again? Because this is the only game you guys gave me? 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.720 The two throw interesting. I have to talk to the 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.520 people in the back. I'll just stop. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.560 See this is see when I do this, this is 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.960 when people get irritated with me. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.919 He's he's such a. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:26.520 Right, No, I because of my personality or like how 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:31.400 people feel. They kind of think prankster is more of 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.719 like a it's kind of a hole, but I'm kind 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.640 of a goofball goofball? 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.840 Yeah really at the house, I. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.120 Can see that. Is this the greatest game of all time? Though? 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.839 I think for the Panthers. For us, yeah, one, because 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.320 we won the game and we've obviously you know. Several 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:58.000 weeks later, we played New England, Patriots and and and 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:03.680 all that stuff. But it was really cool one because 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.080 of this game. You know how football is, you know 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.840 how practice goes. There's so many nuances, there's so many 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.960 little small detail things that happen and don't happen. And 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.359 we had practiced the play is called X clown. We 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.560 practiced that play so many times and me and Jay 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.080 could not get on the same page. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.839 I run it this way, he threw it that way. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.000 He threw it this way. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:34.440 I wouldn't run it that way, and it just just seemed. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.600 Like it was not gonna work. And then when they 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.880 called it a game, it worked twice. 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.960 You guys hit it twice now the X clown. So 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.159 there's verbiage, probably for the protection and there's something else 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.600 or does that tell everyone what to do? 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.800 So this is where ball is. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.760 This is the part where some people don't like that 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.280 I actually know ball. You know, they kind of think 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.480 that I don't know ball. And people always talk about, 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.760 you know, especially with my stuff, they always talk about 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.440 Steve just he just talks. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:15.679 And the offense we were running that year was Dan Henney. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.320 Yeah, a tree from him. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:25.599 That tree is from Charlie Weiss, which means we had 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.440 maybe if these words sound familiar to you, ol A 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.800 recircle Max delly. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.400 XQ Yeah, olay is that out with the flag? Yes? 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.400 Two man concept too many concepts of X clown's backside 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:38.880 telling the X what to do, but there was probably 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.440 something in front telling the other guys what to do. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:41.000 Yes. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.560 And then we had like toga they called it ten 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.440 ten two ends, two ends. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.920 We had topper topper two posts. Yeah. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.839 Yeah, so that that was That was the offense. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.360 And you know I had to learn how to play 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.839 receiver in a way that I just really didn't know 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.720 how to play receiver at that time, you know, going 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:05.040 to Utah, I was I was actually in college, Dunior college. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.080 I was a Z originally. Yeah. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:13.480 Well my wide receivers coach in college switched me to 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:20.560 AX because I'm right handed, but I'm left hand dominant. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.960 So I would be at Z with the ball in 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.800 my left hand and I was stiff on my right right. Well, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.680 they come and just poke it out, so they moved 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.680 me to X. And that's how I became an. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.679 Axe because of how you handled the ball. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.880 Because I high handled the ball. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.920 Bro not only did carry the ball in my left 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.320 arm because I was a four back, everything left left. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.320 I was the same way because I was in Pop Warner. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.680 I was the four back and a wishbone offense, and 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.680 I always ran left, and so you always kept it 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.120 on the outside, and so I would always, even to 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.800 this day that my most comfortable side was my left 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.720 side holding the ball, which is very unorthodox for right 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:02.400 handed guys. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.200 That's crazy. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.760 So you turned into an X in college because your 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.120 right hand, you're better with the ball in your left, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.840 so you give the stiffy And in this point in 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.080 your career, you were still kind of feeling your feeling 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.720 on how to learn how to play receiver in this offense, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.920 that Charlie Weis's style offense. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.840 So is this clown route? Is it like a bow post? 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.400 Yes, it's so, because you inside released and then you 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.839 stemmed up and then you hit them with the outside with. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.000 The couple because it was it was it was it 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.959 was built off Q. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.160 You was just a bow. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.400 Yes, So it was built off the Q because I 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.439 ran it so well, Yeah, stem inside. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.960 Get vertical, get vertical, go to the corner. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.960 Yeah, so I'll stem inside and I just went but 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.760 I I ran out on and I leaned, but the 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.680 reason I leaned to make him think it was going 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.920 a shitty bow. Yes, but it was also the lean 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.320 was to put my foot in the ground to yes, sir. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:07.280 Yeah. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:12.120 People people don't realize you were primarily an X like. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.040 People try to put you in like categories where you 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.320 were No. Steve Smith was the most you're probably the 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:24.120 most dominant X in my eyes of all time under 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.120 six foot like you like and you, but you didn't 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.240 play like you were. It was fucking amazing to me 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.600 to watch you play. When you could run by people, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.000 you could run the routes that I ran and I 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.320 specialized in, but you could win on a go route. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.200 You could stack a guy, run away from a guy, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.360 and you were so dynamic with the ball and strong 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.560 bottom legs like you never got down like and you like. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.080 It's fucking crazy that it all stemmed back to the 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.960 coach in college. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.600 I say, hey, you only hold it in your left 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.160 I think we got to put you at X. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.120 It was it was a problems. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.280 There was a problem, man my But the guy that 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.400 that that coached me recruited me out of San Monica 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:06.400 Community College. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.160 Right down the road. I run there, Yeah, it's ship. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:17.360 Now your turf, yeah, Fred Graves. Yeah, at University of Utah. Yeah, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.480 And he was like, man, we gotta put you as 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.079 we gotta put you at OX. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.680 This is working. You're giving up the football. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:24.319 Yeah. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.360 So I was like, all right, man, that's crazy. So 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.200 you went to Santa Monica Junior College. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.600 How like, how I know you? You talk about it 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.880 all the time, but you and Ocho? Is he Ocho? 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:35.640 Or is he Chad? 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.560 He was He's always been Chad. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.840 Yeah, you guys went to the same juco. Now did 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.360 you guys take pride in who talked ship the craziest 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.760 at that time? I just gotta I can only imagine 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.600 you two in the same fucking huddle at that time. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.640 We we didn't like each other. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.559 I can see that because he. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:06.120 Was from the South and I was Cali, and so 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.439 he had he had got He was a bounce back, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.600 so he had got in trouble. So his grandmother had 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.160 and was like, hey, goes live with your mom in California. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.840 So it was you know, you know how it is 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.880 when you go with when you're playing on new teams 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.720 or you're playing on a new team, that your old 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.600 team and that old that that guy would always say man, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.040 when we were at this team, we did this, and 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:31.800 I used to be like, we'll go back there then, bro, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.400 we don't want you here, you know. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.360 But you know what I'm saying. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.360 They were like, well, we ran this, and you know 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.280 we were here and you know, and I was a 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:47.360 guy zero filter zero, and I would say what everybody 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.360 was thinking out loud. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.760 You'll be like, won't you go back there then? 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.560 But you can't cause you know, and I'll be like, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.800 just go back there, and it was the awkward silence. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.320 But and what's funny about that is my wife. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.160 Says, she goes, what what are you thinking when you 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.080 say stuff like that? 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.720 And she asked me that and I paused and I 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:08.120 was like. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:14.760 Yeah, that's probably problem. I don't I don't think. I 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.040 just go yeah, I understand. I used to. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.040 I do that a lot. I've had to control it 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.600 a little more, but I was as a kid. I 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.079 do that a lot, unfiltered. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:26.640 I was adult. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:32.240 The crazy thing is you don't never turn it off. Though. Yeah, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.880 you have gotten better, bro, it's now. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.480 It's like it throws people off because they're like, who's 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:39.520 this guy? Yeah? 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.600 Or I've gotten a question, are you under anything? Are 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.720 you Ron just chilling under the influence of something like 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.839 what gay smoking that dough? 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.200 What? Why are you saying? I'm like, I just kind 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:52.600 of chill. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.440 I've I've kind of learned and getting better with just 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.839 being okay, with being okay, like just like. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.120 What you hey, what you're doing today? 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:10.320 Nothing, that's about it? Small talk. I get it. I'm 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.240 not I get it. I get it. What's life looking 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:13.840 like these days? 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:14.720 Uh? 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.000 Playing golf? Yeah? And you got your show on YouTube 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:18.560 ironed out? 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.080 Ye? Yeah, yeah, she's fire. I'm waiting for my invite. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.360 I gotta get my golf game better before I go 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:24.640 suck it off. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.880 And we played twenty seventh. I pause. We played twenty 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.640 seven the other day. Bro, whoa whoa? Hold, she was 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.520 just gonna say that and just let that go. That's 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.840 something Bill always used to say. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.520 You just say, oh, he fucking assholes sucked off this 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.440 goddamn drive like he would say, ship like that. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.640 Bro, So we gotta let's let's take a sidetrack. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.360 Sidetrack from golf. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.960 Do you know how close I was? I? Do you 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:52.960 know the story? 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.200 I remember you may have told me, but I forgot 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.800 the story. Explain the story, all right? What we are talking. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:13:59.120 Well. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:03.360 First of all, I was, Uh, my agent had worked 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.520 out a trade to go to New England, and Dave 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.839 Gottimo was the general manager, and he gave me permission 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.880 to talk to the sam Sitisco forty nine ers. But 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.840 my agent had worked out a deal for me to 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.080 go up there. I was with under Armour. Under Armour 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.800 was starting to make my cleats for the Patriots Colors. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:28.360 And that year a former teammate of mine was on 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.520 the team, a couple of months before Damian Lewis d 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.440 lou He was on the team, and so he already 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.400 had gave me information on where to stay. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.320 And man, you're talking about bags packed ready, one foot in, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:43.040 one foot out. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:44.360 What happened? 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.160 Trade didn't go through because they gave me permission to 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.480 talk to the sam six forty nine ers. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:52.400 Uh. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.160 And at that time I did not want to go 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.800 to the Samitixco for my wife was pregnant with Deuce, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.840 my my our youngest, and I was, you know, trying 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:01.520 to find all that. 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.360 And so what year was that? 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:06.080 Great question? 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:10.800 Was it thirteen twelve, thirteen twenty twelve? And so you 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:11.960 would have came in thirteen. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.320 Now I was coming a year of twenty twelve. Twenty twelve, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:22.720 I was yeah October, and then off season came and 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:27.720 you were a visit. You went on a visit to Baltimore. Oh, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:29.400 three days before I went. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.480 I was about to go on a visit to Baltimore. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:32.240 Oh, you didn't go. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.040 I didn't go because you got it. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.000 Oh and I didn't get my trip to New England 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:38.800 because then I signed back. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.440 So it's your fault. Okay, Cool, we've established that I 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:43.520 went to the Niners. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:43.920 Nah. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.280 No, it sounds like you just admit it with four 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.120 cameras that it's your fault. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.640 Sounds like it can't blame You can't blame it on 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:53.480 the black guy this time. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.680 You know, I had to overcome a lot of things 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.320 and that I overcame though. You know how I got 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:05.200 my opportunity. Gronk had to break his back, tragic, Danny 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.080 had to tear both his groins, and one of our 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.640 teammates had to go on a killing spree. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.200 So there is no one else to That was. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:19.400 Very insensitive, bro, whatever that was. I was just trying 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.800 to be you know, that was kind of filter. But 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.240 I didn't use his name. We all know, but I didn't. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.120 It's true the truth billboards right now. No, the actor 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:35.000 is on billboards. That's sad we talk about that. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.160 How was he in the locker room crazy? 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:37.800 Yeah? 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.600 Yeah, like one of those guys that you thought was 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.840 a wankster, like he acted a wankster, like, he acted tough, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.160 but no one took him seriously. Little did we know? 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.760 Yeah it was it was gnarly bro. But that's how 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.360 I got my opportunity. So I'm going to give it 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:58.400 up for no one after that. Yeah, back to golf, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.440 So what's with this golf? This golf show? 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.160 So I started doing some counseling just because like trying 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:11.520 to figure out like, man, you know, forty five years old, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.760 you know, obviously grew up here. I grew up one 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.720 hundred and twenty six in Avalon. So just saw you know, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.760 scene and saw a lot of things that probably a ten, fifteen, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:25.840 sixteen year old probably need some help processing. And then 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.919 I just started to realize, like, you know, when you 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.040 retire with doing something that you I've been doing since 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.920 I was in the third grade down to when I'm 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.639 thirty eight years old, like just to shut that off 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.399 as if it never happened. It's kind of different. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:45.359 Yeah, and so. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.119 I was like, all right, how do I grieve? Like, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.119 how do I figure out? How do I grieve well 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.840 in a healthy way. We, you know, we were in COVID, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:18:00.399 ended up selling. We sold our house because my daughter, 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.359 my son, they were all gone. It was just me, 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:08.720 my wife, dog, and our two boys in this house 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:09.879 in like half of the house. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:10.600 We had a basement. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.520 Half of the house we didn't even turn on and so, 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.679 you know, like everything else, this guy was falling COVID 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.640 and was like, hey, there's a great opportunity to sell. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:24.200 So we sold and downsized. But what was crazy is 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:29.480 in downsize and I had to pack up all my 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:34.840 stuff and bro I like for the family, it was like, yo, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.440 what are you gonna do with all this stuff? 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:39.040 You know, the. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.960 Helmets, the balls, the leeks, and that's cute, but that 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.520 doesn't that doesn't fit in the in the new house. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.000 So what you're gonna do with it? And I didn't 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:54.520 realize that. It was like, oh, I gotta throw this 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.280 stuff away. But this stuff when I was starting to 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.800 pack it up, meant, oh, this is my touchdown passed 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.719 back in you know, back in forty four, you know, 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.720 back in two thousand and three and two thousand and 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:14.119 five and twenty thirteen, and I still had my shoulder pass, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.159 my only pair of shoulder pass I ever wore my 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.880 whole career, and then some gloves and then some under 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.680 armour cleats and then this and that, and it was like, yeah, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.679 that's cool, find a place for I was packing up 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:31.119 my stuff, trying to decide on what's important and what 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.080 is discard. Bro, I started crying. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:34.480 Yeah. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.240 I started realizing like bro, yeah, and I'm like, oh. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.560 Yeah, and I'll never ever play again. And I was like, yeah, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.560 well not me. My wife is like, yeah, this is normal. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.520 And so I started to like start to realize that, like, man, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:55.199 I got some stuff in there that's really holding me 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.520 back that I've been holding on to that I didn't 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.920 didn't know I was holding on to, and just how 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.360 it's affected me. And so in those sessions as I've 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.439 been doing it, and I'm huge on mental health just 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.439 because I've learned, like you know, in COVID, there are 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.400 some things like you learned about yourself, you learned about 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.639 other people, and so I just because like you know what, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.679 I just need to unload some of this stuff that 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:22.360 I'm carrying. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:23.800 And when I. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:24.560 Started to realize. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.960 I was like, Yo, I'm I'm kind of fucked up, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.280 Like this isn't normal. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.320 I shouldn't be this way. I shouldn't be angry all 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:35.680 the time. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:41.560 I shouldn't be concerned that the dude that's mowing the 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.600 grass he's maybe trying to steal from me and he's 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.800 been on the grass for a house for like the 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.679 last eight years. Or I would like see people that 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.840 I knew and like I didn't talk to him, and 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:58.639 so so I started doing that stuff. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:20:59.200 And then. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:05.679 In my last session, probably about February last February was 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.639 it twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three. And then in 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.680 twenty twenty four, right before the Super Bowl in Vegas, 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.600 my counselor said, Yo, what do you do for you? 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.760 I was like, yeah, you know, like the vacation, hangout 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.520 to kid, No, no, no, what do you do for you? 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:25.320 And it was a great question that I didn't have 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:29.719 an answer to, and I didn't I don't really know 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:36.120 how to chill, and so I started kind of through 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:41.080 the PA. At golf Tech, you can get like six 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.840 months of like once a week, four times a month, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.320 you can get at golf Tech, you can get a 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.840 free membership. And so about three months saying I'm doing it, 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:54.920 and the guy's like, man, do you want to continue 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:56.800 to do this because your membership is going to be up, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.800 you know, and you're actually getting pretty good. 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.679 What do you think? And I was like, you know, 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:03.480 I think I want to do it. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.119 And so started playing and that's when the bug hit 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.600 me and I realized like, oh, man, like this is 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.359 something that this is not the football player. It's not 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.320 the dad, that's not the husband. It's just kind of 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:22.119 this is Steve, and I like it. And then my 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.720 boys it was like poplis go play all right. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:28.400 But even on the course, I. 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.720 Was still a little edgy, a little bit like you know, 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.040 pace of play. When you pace play wasn't up. It 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.879 was kind of like hey, hey, hey guys, let's let's 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.160 keep it going. Let's let's hurry up. And then it's 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.280 just kind of like okay, ease. And then I just 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:46.680 I like playing, but I didn't love playing. I like 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.720 playing golf now. Man, it's like like it's it's my 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.440 wu saw Like I'm out on a golf course, good 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:55.639 badd and different. 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:56.640 One. 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:58.600 One of the one of. 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.040 The agreements that I have with myself on the golf course. 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:09.720 Is I don't rush. If I'm rushing on the golf course, 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.679 I don't play. Now I go to driving range. But 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.280 on the golf course, if I'm playing eighteen, I'm playing eighteen. 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.919 If I play nine, I'm playing nine. I'm not playing 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.640 six out of the nine. I'm not playing ten out 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:31.560 of the eighteen. I'm playing eighteen. And man, I and 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.080 when I go play eighteen, bro, I got me some 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:40.800 snacks and crustaballs, water, drink kterade, whatever it is, and 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.119 I just chill. Now I'm gonna have me a fresh 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:48.199 pair of kicks on sock sures. It don't matter, Bro, 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.320 I'm just chilling. And so we're going on vacation, and 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:52.920 the wife should be like, hey, we're going to hear 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:58.240 here and questions. It used to be is there golf 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:02.200 course a golf course plumb, yes, golf course. And now 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:06.320 so now on the family vacation, it be my three boys. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.320 We'll go play golf and then I'll get my wife 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.040 and my daughter they'll get the massage. 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.000 It sounds to me you found another outlet to compete 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.120 in and compete with yourself and give you that kind 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.040 of like you're investing something where you can see result 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.320 and you you've got you've got a chance to go 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.320 out and feel like you're you're competing. No, man, when 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.280 I'm on a golf course, bro, even if you're not 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:35.639 doing that, but you're you're taking those mental reps and 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:36.240 those No. 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.880 For me, what playing on a golf course is actually 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:44.240 relaxing in regards of I'm not playing against you, and 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:48.960 it's the dang course, Like the course is beat me up, 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.800 and it's actually the only place that I kind of tiptoe. 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:52.400 Yeah. 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.920 Like I get a sandtrap, I'm like, oh my, I'm 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:59.320 scared because man, we could be here for four hits. 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.439 Or you know, or we're gonna hit that. You know, 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.359 we're gonna you know. 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:11.960 Now I'm gonna take that stroke. I'll walk up to 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.840 the sand trap like, oh, you're. 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.680 Gonna be cool. Two inches behind, open the stands, open 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:18.080 the face. 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.320 I just so like for me, man, I just I 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:25.639 enjoy I enjoy the piece and quiet. It's why I 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.159 discover why I love country music. Yeah, so I'll be 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:30.280 bumping some country music. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.520 My boys are like, who is this dude? 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.240 Yeah, that's awesome. 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.240 I was out earlier this week I was out at 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.040 the driving range. I go this place in the valley 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.879 because they have grass. You hit off the grass. And 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.600 I'm sitting there and there's this there's this older dude 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:54.280 got a lawn chair and he goes and he takes 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.680 about eight balls and he chips a couple of balls 0:25:57.760 --> 0:25:59.560 and then he comes back and then he sits in 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.600 his line chair and you hear him on the phone 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.399 for a second, and then goes back and he chips 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.439 like eight more like little chips. And this is a 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.160 huge ass driving range. Like I just got chipped right here. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.840 I was like whatever. He comes over and he's going 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.920 to get a new new basket of balls. He goes, 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.480 hey baby, you need you need a basket. I'm like, 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.360 it's fucking Smokey Robinson. Smoking Robbinson brought a lawn chair 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.440 to this fucking this driving rage and he just sits 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.040 there and he's hitting chips. And I was like having 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.479 a rough day, and I went out to the driving 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.879 range to just kind of like chill and it made 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.480 my day. Like smoke your Obbinson. Just he's like, hey baby, 0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.560 you need you need a basket of balls. I'm like, no, man, 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:42.160 go you smoking Robinson. 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.520 He goes, yeah, what's up, baby, I go, I met 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.280 you at the client you know, so that I met 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:47.800 him before. 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.040 He had no clue or anything, but it was so 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.439 fucking cool, and it's such an outlet I use as 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.239 an outlet as well. For me, it's to compete with 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.960 myself and try to put something into something like I 0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.600 did when I was playing, and be able to see 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.280 some kind of result that's positive in my life. 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.680 Yeah, so somewhat. You know my wife. 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:13.080 Again, if she sees it, she'll say, uh, just stay 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:13.920 in the shallow pool. 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.200 Stand in the shallow pool. 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:20.879 You go too deep. But for me, golf is not 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:22.280 an outlet in there. 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.800 Sometimes when I'm playing golf and it's a time where 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.280 like it's uh, it's it's where I'm learning life, where 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:35.639 think about this. Or we playing nine holes, right and 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.080 you hit a Generally you either hit a good or 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.120 bad shot on the first hole and it sets the tone. 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.760 But it's somewhere in the middle you don't play very good. 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.040 So let's say whole three, you hit the whole two, 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.800 you get a par or God bless you, you get a burden. 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.720 Circle boom hoole three or four you hit the ball 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.520 and it goes wide right and you start ye yelling 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.560 and cussing and you're getting upset. 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.840 I used to look at. 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.840 That and I'd be like, man, I don't threw a club. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.359 I done got mad and I'm going And then it 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.160 hit me it was like, yo, two holes ago when 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:22.560 you got that birdie, you forgot and now you're complaining 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.080 that you can't find your ball, but you didn't actually 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.040 even appreciate the birdie. 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:28.640 Yeah. 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.439 So for me, it's like it's a God moment is 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.600 going bro. Sometimes if you can find your ball, you 0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:35.080 just need. 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:35.560 To be thankful. 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.640 That's my that's how we play. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.120 But there's so many people who have this expectation that 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.200 you're gonna play even golf and you ain't never played 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.920 even golf in your life. You are twenty two, Yeah 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.600 you are fourteen. I'm a fourteen to nine. I was 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.360 like twenty five. I've getting better and better, But sometimes 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.719 I just like going out there and remember what am 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:00.920 I doing? Going wrong? 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:02.280 Oh? 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.360 Well, yeah, you're trying to swing like you're hitting the baseball. 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.560 Oh you're all upper body, and I use are you 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.240 going back? And so it's like golf of me is 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.520 the only time that I'm kind of tiptoeing and it's 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.720 great because it's like hmm and the kids are like, Yo, 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:20.560 who's this guy? 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:21.400 This pop? 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:22.240 Oh? 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:27.080 So, how is Steve Smith the golfer different than Steve 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.640 Smith the football player? 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.440 That's why is it? 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:31.479 Do I call you senior? 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.400 I mean I prefer all right, then. 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.160 It don't bother me. I just I'll just mess around. 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.400 I mean, that's why I quit playing Bro. It's like 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.440 it's too much. It's too much to be angry all 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.320 the time, right, to be miserable. 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.640 That's what I used to call I was in the 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.200 same mindset, Bro. I used to keep going, You're you're 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.560 preaching me, and so I was like, bro, And so 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.520 I was like to go backwards because people will be like, oh, 0:29:58.560 --> 0:29:59.240 I know, you miss it. 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:00.840 Huh nah. 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:02.040 Bro. 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:03.920 Like the stuff that I would have to do to 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:04.440 get up for. 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.520 A football game, like I was. My boy was in 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.040 a car with me. I was he was like I 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.240 was showing him. I was playing all the songs I 0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.240 used to listen to before I go out of. 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.280 The pre game ship, pre game pre after I do 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.360 my warm up. What is it? 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.320 It was young Buck. 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.120 Bang? What else was it? 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:29.200 Yep? 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:34.240 Black gloves, black mask, Biggie Tupac, like all that stuff 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.400 that was like super inappropriate. Like if my kids are 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.719 listening to it now, it's like we need to go, 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:39.480 we need to talk. 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:42.440 Yeah. 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.240 But and then I come out of the tone like ah, 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:47.640 and it was like my outlet. 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:48.320 Now it's like. 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.520 I don't need that, bro, like I don't need. 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.280 To be takes a lot out of you. Yeah, it's exhausted. 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.080 It's very exhausting, right, Yeah. 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.160 The self motive, like you said, when you do it 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.280 for a long time, it becomes you, becomes you. But 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.200 it's also you know, like because of how good you played, 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.320 you always had a constant standard of what people looked 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.360 at you, and for you to go out and meet 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:20.000 that standard every week that you created because of your play. 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.640 You know, sometimes when it's week eight, you're playing goddamn 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.520 Chicago Bears that are fucking dog shit. It's hard to 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.280 get up sometimes when you're banged up, you know what 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.640 I mean, you have to go out and create. I 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.680 would have to create stuff in my head to get 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.360 you up, and that's exhausting, you know. 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:42.960 I would create my dislike for you in watching film. Yeah, I. 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:46.920 Don't like the way he did that. 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:59.280 Right seat belt. They all do this. It's what about 0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:04.880 but the little Superman cape? No, I was I never 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.320 really five nine. You can't never ever be Superman, you 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.760 know what I mean? More Mighty Mouse, you know, like 0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.280 people always say, like, oh, man, he's he has a 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:16.480 Napoleon complex. 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.000 Man, I've been five to nine pretty much my whole life. 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.760 I'm pretty comfortable at my height. 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.840 You were so you were big five nine and since 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:23.360 you were young. 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:25.640 No, I wasn't a big five now, I was like 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:29.120 five to five. I've been short my whole life. Yeah, 0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:30.160 it hasn't bothered me. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.480 Now i've been I do have hope for a gross 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.680 spurt because I've been wearing. 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.960 Well was that so funny? Though? Hey, I'm still waiting 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:43.640 on that thing too. Man, I'm five five still. 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:44.280 Bro. 0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:46.760 Like when I was in like ninth grade, I was 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.360 wearing a nine, so my foot was going on. I 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.440 was like, can you imagine five six? We're in the 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:59.400 size eleven and a half size ten shoe and like 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.680 I'm a size twelve and I can I never filled 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:03.400 in my shoes. 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.640 Yeah, so he still might have a spurt there. 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.480 Yeah. My son, one of my boys got it though, 0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.239 my son Boston. He's six to two. 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.120 His name is Boston. Yeah, that's tight. Was what's the 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.160 story behind Boston. 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.520 I just like to name what it was not a Jackson, 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:25.680 Boston and Noah. And there was a car salesman. We 0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.640 were buying a car. He was a car salesman. His 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.400 name was Noah. Oh no, I'm sorry Jonah Jonah after 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.360 that transaction, Nope, took. 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.640 That name off the het. That's the film right there. 0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.280 That's like when you watch film. 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:46.840 So I have to bring up, uh oh, the first 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.360 time I really started. I mean, I knew you as 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.560 a kid when I was playing not a kid. I 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.800 wasn't like that much, like seven years younger than you, 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:55.440 so whatever. 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.560 But it was when I got drafted by Scotty Oh, 0:33:58.960 --> 0:33:59.800 Scotti O'Brien. 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.360 He made me sit with him at five o'clock in 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.560 the morning and he gave me the whole game plan 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.040 of what he would tell to thee the special teams 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:09.719 meeting that day. 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.200 So I had to sit in all the meetings and 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:13.000 he was sit and watch. 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.719 He made me watch punt returns of you and Medcalf 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:18.480 and he would sitting there. 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.680 I had to watch of Metcalf. 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.640 Yeah, Scotty was Scottio is crazy. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.480 Yeah, I love him. Though I love Scottio, you like. 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:33.640 Him probably not, I respect him. 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.719 Yeah, man, he was so tough on me and just 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.120 the way he was, and I just, uh, I didn't 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.960 take that kind of coaching like as yay, yeah you 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:44.400 love me. 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.960 I took that as like side eye. Yeah, so I 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:49.600 kind of like. 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:51.080 He loved you, bro. 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.279 Bro, he didn't even know what. 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:54.680 Because he's like that, you know. 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.080 He was like he was like he's like that with 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.320 Matthew Slater. Really Matthew Slater. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.560 I love Matthew Slat, the. 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.319 Best human being in the world, bro. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:03.360 But Scotty just. 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:10.839 He was tough on me, man, and just he just like, well, 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.560 I said, how can I describe Scotty. 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:13.200 Oh, it's like a. 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:20.640 Like onions, Like onions, how I mean you need it, 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.239 like if it's a burger, you need it on there, 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.160 but then when you bite into it, you're kind of like, oh, man, 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.880 too much onion, but. 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.880 You but if you take it all out, you're like, no, 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:31.800 I need some onions. 0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.680 The onion can't be too thick, but it can't be 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:37.840 not not enough enough. 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:42.920 Yeah, so you can taste it when it's not there, Yeah, 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.360 but you're kind of like, do I need this much? 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:46.320 Yeah. 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.080 It's kind of like when you go to a place 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.480 that's a little lazy that just cuts the onion straight 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.719 and hot, like it doesn't mince the onion or cut 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:55.920 the onion up where you have pieces of onion and 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:57.080 then you get the fat. 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:57.960 Chunk on it. Yeah. 0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.000 It kind of like, Well, the reason why I say 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.960 that is so when he left Carolina he went to Miami. Yeah, 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:09.759 and Miami, which we've gotten over Sam Madison. 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:12.320 We played against each other. 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:18.560 And Scotty kind of made and like suggested Sam do 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.000 some things to get me riled up. And I knew 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.920 where it came from, and at that time I was 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.440 here only in my fifth year. Man, it kind of 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.000 hit my soul a little bit because a guy that 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:37.680 I respected and admired, Scotti, and how he had them 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.319 do that, and so it just kind of was like 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.840 it kind of what it did, and I'm connected with 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:48.879 us now. It kind of traced back to growing up 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:55.760 to where so you can't trust people. See the people 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.400 you think that really are in your corner when they 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.520 move on, is how they they're He's instructing you. He's 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.000 instructing Sam to do a few things that indicse how 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.520 he really feels about you. Yeah, and so that was 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.840 like for me, it was like all right, it actually 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.279 for me, I got you. 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:19.680 I got you. 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:29.279 But my got you is I'm done thought done, not not. 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.920 Gone like the wind. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.640 No, like man, damn saying what happened now? Yeah, take 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.240 a moment, people moving? 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:48.839 Yeah, pretty crazy, pretty crazy? 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:56.240 I was awkward. You like getting people awkward? 0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.520 No, bro, I just realized, like I just you. 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.120 Like people walking around you on eggshells. You love it. 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.719 I actually I don't. I don't. 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.200 It sucks because there's a lot of assumptions. There's a 0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.920 lot of assumptions about you. I know what you're thinking, 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.480 really how that's amazing. I don't even know myself, but 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:20.879 you do unique wow. Interesting. So I don't. It's it's 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:25.640 one of those things where I've created this whole persona 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.480 that people actually think they know me and they don't. 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.080 And the reason I say is because I'm discovering myself 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.440 of little things about myself. 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.520 Said earlier in the fucking interview, I know them, but 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.200 I don't know them. 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.359 But I know them but I know clearly. I don't 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.360 clearly I don't. 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.600 Nah, but it's like now that I'm done playing, a 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.480 lot of guys that hit me up or they like 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.799 what's up, bro, and I'm like nothing. And when I 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.560 come up to them, it was like like wow, because 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.680 when I played, like I didn't talk to anybody. I mean, 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:56.600 how many times we've been on same field and I 0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:02.080 was You'd be like hey, and I'm and then I 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.440 go back and I was like, man, I miss opportunity. 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.320 Like Bro, one of the craziest things, Jews. 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.360 I loved your game, Yeah, Bro, just the way you played, 0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.759 how you played, how they took you from quarterback and 0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.160 then the receiver, and how like all these people old this, 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:21.239 he came out of. 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.080 Nowhere knowing how much you grind and all that stuff. 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.960 Man, and hell of a football player, your acrement, understanding 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.120 how how to do things, set up the corner, set 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.920 up to play, knowing that your quarterback is very high strung. 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:42.000 It has a huge, huge threshold and responsibility and expectation. 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.400 You met that every single day with practice in preparation, 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.600 and you did it in a game. And so like, 0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.799 I love And when I look at players now at 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.080 the age I'm at, like I can actually look at 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.279 their game and I admire, but I also look at 0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:02.600 it in my head as an athlete what they need 0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:07.840 to work on. Yeah, because I believe that defensive players 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:13.200 have they have they know your deficiencies, the good ones, yes, 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.279 and the scout. So I believe that you have to 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.719 know what you're not good at, like. 0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.560 If they know it, you need to know without a doubt. 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.640 And so like you know, so sometimes I come across 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.200 as a hater, but it's more of like, well, we 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.319 all know what the cake tastes like with all the 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.600 ingredients cook perfectly, but do we know what the cake 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.280 tastes like when you're missing the bacon, soda. 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.239 It's a little floppy, it's a little nasty. It's nasty. 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:42.239 It's true. I agree with that. It's tough to be 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:47.360 in on TV and promoting the game, and we have 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.800 to be real without hurting people's feelings. 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.600 Yeah, I didn't know I was promoting the game. 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:52.760 Well just in general. 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.279 They're still figuring that part out. 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.160 Yeah, but you know what I mean exactly. 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:02.360 So, uh So I grew I played with you remember 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.680 Anthony magazine man, I played with him in college. 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.400 Okay, and then I went back to quarterback quarterback. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.000 Yeah. 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.239 Yeah, a little Mags, a little Max. He used to 0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.719 be they used to all be in practice. 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:13.919 Man. 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.839 Yeah, he was telling me some stories about me. Yeah, 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:22.080 he goes, I go, I got Steve coming on. I 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.279 remember you used to talk that he was close with 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.480 your family because he you know, he said, you. 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.960 Guys are very close, very close, very love you. 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.960 Oh man, his family and Mags passed away, man. 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.520 And you went and he it meant the world that 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:37.520 you went to that funeral. 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.840 Well, because that's who he was. Man. 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.400 It was unfortunate, but like we used to have a 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.680 true When Anthony graduated high school, me and Jake were at. 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.600 His uh his graduation party at at. 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.320 Thomas playing hoops. 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:55.520 Yeah yeah yeah all the time. Oh, absolutely dominating kids. 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.239 And then he said, he said, you and Dell are 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.720 you and mccount Yeah? Played in a flag of football 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.239 fucking league. Yeah man, uh man, Josh, here was my quarterback. 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.520 I was receiving, played a little dB two, was clamping them, 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:15.799 clamping them. 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.200 Now, what were you did you get? He said? 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:21.840 I rebroke my arm that I already had broke. 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.840 You couldn't get enough on it? Is this an off season? 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:26.680 It was off season. 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:28.880 So what makes you sign up for a fucking y 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.000 m c A just fucking to have fun, to go 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.520 fucking compete against my mother? 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.080 What made you sign up to go play this? Well, 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.279 first of all, I had donated. So we're playing on 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.040 field eighty nine, so I. 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.400 Mean it's your field, my field. 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.759 I just liked playing. I just loved playing football. 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:51.280 And I always felt playing flag helped me in tackle 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:56.280 because it helps you process spacing, thinking fast. 0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:01.640 Right, So I was just playing. It was just chilling. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.000 Maga said, he got in so much trouble because when 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.399 you got hurt, big pop Mags fucking yell let him 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.560 chewt him out. He's like, you knew you couldn't have 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.640 him playing. He's like, I'm not gonna we can't play 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:17.520 out there. I just still couldn't believe you were playing flag. 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.160 I was having fun too. How many games did you play? 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.840 This was his multiple game? Was this like a weekly 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.440 like prep? It was a spring league? Was playing in 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.880 the spring. How was Joshua count of the field. 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:31.760 Oh, josh is a heck of athlete. 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:32.560 He could light it up. 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:38.560 Yeah, he was playing wide receiver. I was playing quarterback too, Yeah, yeah, safety, linebacker, balling. 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:39.279 We have fun. 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.120 What do you think about the Olympics in the flag 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.879 football if you were playing, if you were in your 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.239 prime and the Olympics had a flag football, would you 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:48.800 try to play? 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.880 I would, and then I probably wouldn't be on the 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.280 team because just too intense. 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.640 Yeah, I would have loved that would be insane to 0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:58.759 go and try to get gold medal? 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.759 Is the games completely Is it different though? Or is 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:02.200 it the same? 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:02.360 Like? 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.439 Is the flag is like the lead the flag LEAs 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.399 now it's it's a lot of laterals. It's it's pretty good, 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.399 like it's some they be running some plays they can 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.799 play now to say now, I would say, there was 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.800 the guy talking about he's just good as Patrick Mahomes 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.759 that that remember the quarterback? Yes, yeah, I no, you 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:29.719 ain't like everybody was letting that slide. No, he ain't 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.400 not even close. Bro, I don't care what he's saying 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.480 that he can do it, and and God bless him, 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:36.120 I believe him. 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:37.960 He ain't. 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.040 He ain't could could Patrick go and not even know 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:41.640 the rules of that? 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.440 And I don't know, but I know that dude is 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:45.840 not as good as Patrick Mahons. 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.080 That's all I'm saying. You're not you're not like it's 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:51.160 what we do. 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.600 Like you know this whole debate can football players play basketball? 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:59.359 But I don't think so. I can dribble the ball. 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.520 I can dribble, it doesn't mean I can play in 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:01.879 the NBA. 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.040 Yeah. 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.879 I found out very quickly that I'm not a good 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:06.600 basketball player. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.480 I had an accident with an accident. I found out 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:10.120 I couldn't play. 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.800 How can you what what was the accident? 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.360 The accident was me trying out for who high school? 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.920 What? So? How can you explain the scenario? 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.560 This wasn't very good. Just it was I was not 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:22.600 a basketball player. 0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:24.240 You just too physical? 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.520 No, bro, I just was not a good basketball player. 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.880 I did not have all the key fundamentals of being 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.120 a good basketball player, like scoring points. 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:34.200 Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't like I was a football player. 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:35.680 I played a lot of basketball, but I was always 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.120 a football player playing in basketball. 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.239 I was just quick. I could steal the ball. 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.160 I never had the I never knew basketball like the 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.520 vision like I didn't know. 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.200 It didn't come close to. 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:48.879 Me, like on when you're running a route or when 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.879 you're on the football field and you're setting someone up. 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.800 I didn't know the cutting that well. It just didn't 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:54.239 come to me. 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:58.840 Yeah, I just don't think everybody can play. Everybody's without 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:02.000 a doubt. They think they can and ask grat not me. 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:07.160 Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. What's up? 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On January tenth, 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.560 two thousand and four, the number one movie was Lord 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.279 of the Rings Return of the King, Lord of the 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:40.759 Ring Guy. 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:42.640 Yeah you like that one? 0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.359 Yeah, dude, Me and my wife are actually rewatching it 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:46.640 so we could watch the series. 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.359 Yeah, it's on Amazon right, Yeah, I've tried to watch. 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:50.919 It's tough. 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.759 Outcast, outcast. Okay, are you a big boy orre you Andre? 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:55.400 Three thousand? 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:59.680 Both both both like because they were outcasts at that time. 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:00.200 Yeah. 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:01.360 Yeah, this was. 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.960 I was in Height, I was in call uh prom 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.000 and that song that was this song was out. 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:07.880 So when you were going, uh, that's what you took 0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.040 out Jerry Rice's uh yeah. 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.640 Exat we were like. Picture was. 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:20.640 Britney Spears has her surprise wedding after tying the not 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.840 with the backup singers at the backup singer. 0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.920 This was the Yeah, the backup dancer, backup dancer. 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:29.280 Jack for what I think like her tours only lasted 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:30.360 fifty five hours. 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:31.920 Yeah, crazy times. 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.440 Big Fish, along came Paulie and you got served. Were 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:42.520 all popping off in the yeah along King Poly Did 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.920 you watch movies when you played or you just straight 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.719 ball guy? Or did you go you have ball and 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.600 then you went home and just was like family, what 0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.560 was your how were you back in twenty two thousand 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:53.799 and four? 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.160 I watched movies. I watched a lot of them. I 0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.400 still watch movies. I mean I grew up. Where you 0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:02.040 go you know that goes to the video store you 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.719 rented out, you know Blockbuster? 0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:09.040 Like that was a big time bro Friday night, Yeah, Saturday. 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:14.640 Or like uh like Christmas, break Man, go rent Mario 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.200 three when the little uh when he was the right cool? 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.480 Yeah? And that was three with the when he got 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:25.000 the Flower or the leaf? Yeah, I love that. 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.440 Yeah, you know I was. 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:31.880 Yeah, Now when you went home in twenty fourteen, like 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:35.040 two thousand and four, what kind of guy were you 0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.560 in the locker room? Like like what how did you 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.279 get away from the game? Or were you all like 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.200 during football season? Was it football season always? Because for 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.239 me I was football. Everyone knew it was football. I 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.600 had like an hour where I would play video games 0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:50.880 kind of catch up with my boys over the internet 0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:52.319 before I would do like. 0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:54.880 Shit, Internet wasn't that good back in two thousand? 0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:56.600 Was dial up? 0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:58.880 Yeah? 0:49:59.000 --> 0:49:59.720 Yeah? Baby? 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:00.680 Was I had ah. 0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:03.560 That zero net zero? 0:50:04.840 --> 0:50:07.400 I don't even remember it. My parents were I was 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.920 still a kid there. Wow, you were like an adult. Bro. 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:12.280 You's seven years older than. 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.319 Me at this time. 0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:15.520 So in this year, yeah, how old are you in 0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:20.880 two thousand and four? Uh, twenty twenty three, I was 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:27.520 like seventeen. It's kind of different slightly. You're making millions 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.680 of dollars in the NFL. I was still I was. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:31.239 I was under my parents. 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:31.600 Bro, I was. 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.760 I remember two thousand and four, that was one twenty nine. 0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.839 Oh see you remember that was one twenty nine, one 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.480 hundred and twenty nine thousand. I remember that first check. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:46.040 I was shocked and surprised. I think thirty five hundred dollars. 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:50.920 I said, who's check? Is this? Surprised? Why it was 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:52.759 three thousand dollars? Is that a lotter? Is that? 0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:53.000 No? 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:59.440 That was not the the dream I was sold. I 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.560 was like, who says, where's the rest of my money? 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:04.880 Yeah? 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.360 So it was one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.040 for rookies, Like my whole when I got driving, my 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.080 whole check was not complaining. 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:13.520 So take this complaint. 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:17.719 But when you say everybody's a millionaire and then you 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:19.759 get a check and it ain't no millions on there? 0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:22.400 Where are they at where they're. 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.239 At, and I think my whole contract is like one 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.200 point two. I got my signing bones was five hundred thousand. 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:31.400 It was three seventy five. That thing was tricky. 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:32.520 Yeah. 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.239 I was seventh, three hundred and forty nine grand to 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.600 my name bro forty nine grand I had. 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:40.439 I thought I was rich. 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.840 Six grand I had to pay seventy five thousand, So 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.520 I had six grand left April sixteenth, after. 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:58.480 My rookie year. Yeah, I blew it. He learned though, right, Yeah, 0:51:58.480 --> 0:51:59.160 I learned. 0:51:58.960 --> 0:51:59.879 Good, good good. 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:04.480 In the sports world, Patriots went on to win the 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:08.080 Super Bowl. Peyton Manning and Air McNair where the m 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:11.320 v P loves Steven is one of my fucking favorites. 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.160 White, Jason White. 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:15.960 He hasn't done anything since. 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:20.000 Since USC won the Natty. 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:22.600 Now you grew up around here, how come you Did 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:24.960 you ever have dreams of going to u C l 0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:30.080 A or USC. No, they didn't recruit short people. Yeah. 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:31.800 I just wanted to get it. I just wanted to 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:32.960 go to go anywhere. 0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:33.520 Yeah. 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.120 So my two options was sam Houston State, San Jose 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:41.000 and Utah. Yeah, and then Sam Houston State decided that 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:44.960 I wasn't eligible, which is interesting. But I was eligible 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.480 for Utah, but it wasn't for Sam Houston State and 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:51.000 then San Jose State was kind of like where everybody went. 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.440 Uh that was from West LA and all that stuff 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.920 and a track record with UH. That was kind of 0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.840 like going back. It was kind of like going back 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.680 to californ you know, going back to high stood. 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:08.040 I was like, yeah, turn worn out, turned out really good. 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:12.520 This was the year the Ravens swept the Defensive Award 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:15.919 or the awards. Ray Lewis with Defensive Player of the Year, 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:23.560 Turell Sugs with Today's his birthday, Happy birthday, and Jamal Lewis, 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.440 who was a fucking didn't you have three hundred yards 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:25.799 this year? 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:27.840 I believe, So let me check on that. What was 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:29.000 it like playing with the Ravens. 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:30.520 It was dope, a good time. 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:31.640 Yeah, yeah. 0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:33.560 I got close with Ray a little bit when we 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:34.680 did inside the NFL. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:42.600 Oh yeah, that was that was after I was doing 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:43.959 inside of the NFL. 0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:48.279 Too, probably, so I kicked the. 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:49.120 No, no, no, you don't. 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:51.360 I did not know you did not. 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:56.040 Well, we'll talk about that offense, we guess it. But 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.720 Ray hilarious. 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.560 So you come from the Panthers, Yes, you were part 0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:09.440 of being a huge foundational piece. I'm making that organization relevant. 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:11.640 That was an expansion team when I was a kid, 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.760 and then you guys went to the Super Bowl, competed, 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:17.520 fucking played your guys nuts off a bunch. When you 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.920 go to the Ravens, they're in this era doing the 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:21.520 same thing. 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:23.439 Yes, Ray was already gone. 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:30.560 Sis was there, Elvis Duomerville, Chris Canty and reed uh 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:31.920 Ed was already gone. 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:33.439 Was he gone? Yeah? 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:35.840 I remember because when I was in Carolina he was 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.160 with the Jets. 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:41.919 Oh yeah, yeah. So it didn't look right. Texans too, 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:46.239 Texans too and so. 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:49.680 But it was great because I was just at a 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:51.879 place I just you know, I. 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:53.360 Just need a new scenior. I wanted to know what 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:57.799 it was like and loved the city. City City still 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:01.399 shows me. Love goes out there. My daughter Baylor, she's 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:07.000 a huge Ravens fan. Like yeah, she like she loves them, bro, 0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:09.120 Like it's crazy. 0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:09.960 It's because of you. 0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.000 She's got into football. 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:17.560 My son, my oldest Peyton, started getting her into fantasy 0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.239 and he created a monster like she's at like when 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.240 we're at the house and we're watching, she's I'm watching. 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.160 I watched two games at a time because I like 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.319 to see the game. She's like, yo, change it, and 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:32.280 she's watching four, and I like, I can't watch four. 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:33.960 I need two. 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.719 Yeah, it's too too much. You don't do this the 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.360 new what is it YouTube TV? Where you split the box. 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:42.680 Yeah, she's split it in a four. I like to 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:43.600 split it in the two. 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:46.360 I do three on the one o'clock games with the 0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:48.920 red zone. Yeah, and then I go reback and I 0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:52.120 and then I watch I'll like do the condensed versions, 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:53.320 like of the games. 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.280 We really need to see forty six minutes? 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.319 Yeah, forty six or you hit like the highlights and 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.720 then you hit some of the forty six. 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:01.359 You know what I mean? Yeah? 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:01.840 I do. 0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:05.319 I generally I watched half of them and then on 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:09.920 a Monday, Monday morning, I'll get up and then what 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:16.400 I started doing is during Sundays, actually walk on the 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:17.480 treadman watch the game. 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:18.879 Yeah. 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.680 Now I heard you you watch you still watching film? 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.480 Where I getting that from? Who do you watch film with? 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:26.520 I heard myself? 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.279 I remember there was was there a few Did you 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.759 just do a feature or you're watching still watching film? 0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:33.560 Or you were talking about it? Oh? 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:33.839 Yeah? 0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:36.560 On my podcast eighty nine, I think, so yeah, yeah, 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.040 So I watch film on guys, like I'll try to 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.680 like look and see what's going on, just because you 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.440 know how you watch the game and you're like, something's 0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.399 wrong here, what's going on? And so I'll go back 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.000 and then I'll go back and look. So what I 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.759 generally do is if I see something, I'm like, I'll 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:58.279 just write myself a note and then I'll go back 0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:02.120 and watch it, and then i'll at the research, and 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:07.640 the research confirms my intuition. Sometimes the research is like nah, bro, 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:13.279 you off okay again? Yeah, and so that's what that's 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:15.239 what I ended up doing. So I'll look at a guy, 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.840 see it, and then I'll go back and study him, 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.440 and then i'll get and I'm kind of weird with numbers, 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:23.040 so I'm kind of like, okay, let me see how 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.640 many times he was lined up outside? Who well, when 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.520 he was targeted? Was it on the number two? Why 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:31.800 was a corner or the number one corner? 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:34.760 You know? Was it on the top tier? 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:34.960 Guy? 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:36.040 Was it on the bottom tier? 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.040 Oh yeah, you bothering against the number two, but you're 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.720 getting them clamps on, you know. So I look at 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.800 all of that stuff, you know, averaged up to target. 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:48.360 What is the quarterback rating when targeted? What's your how 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:50.880 far are you going? What's your yack? How many first 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.440 downs have you really helped the team get? How many mistackles? 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.760 So I try to see, like what about that individual 0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:00.919 his his game is good or you needs to work on. 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:04.160 And I just that's just kind of how I look 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:04.480 at him. 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.120 Who are some of the guys that impress you right 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:10.960 now in the league? Give me two you two. 0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:12.000 Two guys that you look at You're like, that dude's 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:12.760 a bad motherfucker. 0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:14.240 Justin Jefferson. 0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:16.439 What makes him so well? 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:20.720 His his length and the way he moves his breaks 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.880 in and out of breaks the offense he end Uh, 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:25.880 he's mastered it. 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:27.320 He knows exactly what to do. 0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:28.200 Uh. 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:32.240 He can change up his tempo so well. His releases 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:33.560 off the charts. 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:34.600 But then I. 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.640 Also favor because I was old guy. I favored the 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.000 old guys too, Like so I still think Davante Adams 0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.840 is still that guy. He's not gonna he's never been 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:46.520 a four to three guy, but his releases are remarkable. 0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:49.840 Just the way he does his hands, ball placement, catch, radius, 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:55.200 body control, tempo, sudden burst, really good sudden burst and 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.720 then his his his creativity to stack you even though 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.919 he's not faster than you, So just him being able 0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.280 to use his leverage. 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.520 So like, I look at that. 0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:08.600 But then there's other guys I think that that are 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.200 promising who have the ability. 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.520 Who's someone that you think that kind of reminds you 0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:18.640 of you? If there's anyone, see, So people ask that and. 0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:26.600 Hard to do that. So the reason why I. 0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.960 I'm not judging you, The reason why I have a 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:31.000 hard time answering that question is because I also remember 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.600 that I was supposed to be a far front draft pick. 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.400 I was also told I was just a returner. So 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:40.960 now that I'm done playing, everybody's like, oh, he minds me. 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.280 You But when I was playing, people didn't like me, 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:46.240 and so you didn't like me. And then there's you know, 0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:48.720 we read our stuff on there and they're like, oh, 0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.920 you know, people like, oh, Steve was just a slow receiver, 0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:54.760 and really it was I didn't know that. I think 0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:57.960 the game has changed, but I also think there are 0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:01.160 players out there who I don't remind me of myself, 1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:06.240 because I think they are significantly better. I played the 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:10.600 way I played because I was obviously I did like 1:00:10.680 --> 1:00:13.480 I didn't have quick feet like Chad like I can do. 1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:17.800 I couldn't do great cone drills. I round in my routes. 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:21.200 I never ran the right I never ran the same 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.560 route the same way. So they were things that I 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:28.919 did that I used as my advantage. But I ran 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:33.360 my routes kind of add like I was never consistent 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:34.440 on doing things. 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.280 I did it my way. 1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.520 Yeah, and but I was really just kind of like 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:44.240 covering for the fact that man, I was just playing 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:47.040 on hope of the prayer. Yeah, and so that's just 1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:50.280 kind of like, I know I was playing with house money, right, 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:53.439 I know that, So just roll the dice, say, man, 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:55.800 put all the chips in. So when I go across 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:58.640 the middle and I know I'm gonna get hit, you 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:00.400 got a choice to get hit with the ball, oh 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:03.320 without the ball. And so a few times like all right, 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:04.920 I get hit with the ball. Now I get up 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:06.640 and I'm like, man, you know a guy used to 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:08.120 hit me and he'd be like, oh, what you want 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:11.040 with that? And so I started getting up like if 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:13.720 you think you crazy, I'm crazier. And so it was 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:20.680 more like the feed into like to intimidate and show bro, 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:22.200 I'm be here all day. 1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.760 Your best didn't hurt me, No, and. 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:27.360 Then I'll get and then old school football, so then 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:32.600 I'll go. And I really didn't like blocking, but it 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:36.080 was like, all right, I got a block, and so 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:38.680 it was like they're gonna hit me, so I can 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:42.400 hit them. So I really would block and just kind 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:45.440 of lean and I realized with my leverage and the 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:47.720 way the angles, I can hit them. And then it 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:51.080 was like, oh yeah, I could tee off. And so 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:52.840 then you know, a guy hits you, or he'll be 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:57.320 talking and then they'll run, you know the uh toss crack, 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:03.960 and it was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you hit me. 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:07.520 Or so I'll run and then come back and I 1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:08.320 get the corner. 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:11.080 Yeah, Or I can hit this. I can hit this 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:15.600 linebacker that's chasing. You're going to chase her. It's a 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:16.520 bigger hit. 1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:18.800 Oh and I'm gonna and I'm trying to knock his 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.280 helmet off. But I would hit him. I would hit 1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:23.520 him up high. I always respect the game. I never 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:25.880 hit a dude down low. If I hit you down low, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.880 that was because I didn't respect you. But if I 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:31.280 didn't respect you, that means also because you hit me 1:02:31.360 --> 1:02:34.400 down load. So we have no regards of each other's career. 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.760 So guess what, let's do it there? 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:42.160 Head is different. You know, you knock someone out, that's 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:44.920 that's considered a kiss. You're taking out knees, that's considered 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:45.880 a career. 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:49.640 Yeah. And so I got to the point where guys knew. 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:52.400 I was like, bro, i'mna hit you up top if 1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.240 you hit me low again or you cheap shot me. 1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:56.080 I got one question for you. 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:59.360 When I cut you and they gotta do surgery, My 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:02.120 question is what kind of flowers you want to send you? 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:05.120 They look at me, just let me. 1:03:05.080 --> 1:03:07.520 Know, don't And you see they go back to the 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:10.120 huddle and they're trying to They're trying to decide do 1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:12.760 I really want to go there with them? 1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:17.640 Because I was thinking they're designing tulips or roses? 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:18.680 Yeah? 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:19.120 Nah. 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:22.000 They was like really thinking, like, bro, where do you 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:22.560 come up with? 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.480 Like did you you've thought that before? 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:26.160 Oh? 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.360 Yeah, you've said that before. Oh absolutely. 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:31.480 Now is this spur of the moment ship talking where 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:34.160 it just comes to you or are you like a 1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:36.760 poet where you have a couple of these you've you've 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:39.000 thought about these situations, you have a couple on the 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:40.720 tool belt for when you see him. 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:43.720 Say, is is this just free free burden? 1:03:43.880 --> 1:03:46.160 It's just some of it, just like some of them. 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:49.800 I'm kind of embarrassed that I like said that. I 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:51.120 was like, dang, that was bad. 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:52.480 What's the most embarrassing? 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:57.560 So I remember Stuart was telling me one time, Jonathan 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:01.360 Stewart he had played with one of the DB's that 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:03.320 were out there, and so the dB had did something 1:04:03.400 --> 1:04:05.640 and I just was like held him down and I 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:10.160 held him down until the referee came and Grabbler and 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:13.160 Stewie said, man, why'd you do that? 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:13.439 Steve? 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:16.720 What did he do? And Bro, just like I was 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:19.840 just like he was born. He was like, hold up 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:21.920 because he was born. 1:04:22.200 --> 1:04:22.320 Bro. 1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:23.960 That was just the first thing came out of my 1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:29.120 head because I didn't have a legitimate excuse. He was 1:04:29.160 --> 1:04:33.400 like everybody's born. But then I was like, I have 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:35.200 my head down, but I'm not engaging in that. That 1:04:35.320 --> 1:04:37.680 was my answer. Okay, accept it or don't accept it. 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.400 But that was the kind of dumb stuff I said 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:40.840 and did. 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:44.240 I mean, but that's you. 1:04:44.360 --> 1:04:47.520 But you know how he didn't finish a game, Bro, 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:49.800 that is you gotta put it out a goddamn T shirt. 1:04:49.960 --> 1:04:51.560 Is it? You got it on a T shirt yet? 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:55.200 Yeah, they got some dude trademarked it and offered it 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:55.480 to me. 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:59.160 I watched it, and I remember as a kid, I 1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:02.320 remember when we played against each other. And but you 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:06.640 have some fucking straight poems out there with how you 1:05:06.720 --> 1:05:09.560 talk shit to fools right on the spur of the 1:05:09.560 --> 1:05:14.040 moment postgame interviews anything. I was sitting there like this, 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:18.000 motherfucker should be a rapper. You should be a fucking rapper. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:21.640 You spit like nine right after a game. 1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:25.520 The story. It's some kind of funny ass way of 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:26.200 doing it. You should. 1:05:26.280 --> 1:05:29.360 You should have a marketing company or something appreciate it. 1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:34.120 It's fucking gnarly, Jackie. Let's get into the game. Should 1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:36.040 you talk about these rams? Real quick? Real quick? 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:39.880 This is the twelve and four rams. Mike Martz, Lovey 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:43.760 Smith leading that defense. Uh, Steve Fairchild the OC. This year, 1:05:44.160 --> 1:05:45.880 Mark Bulger took over for Kurt Warner. 1:05:45.880 --> 1:05:46.960 This year he got Kurt warnered. 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:49.360 You got Kurt warnered six fumbles in the first game 1:05:49.760 --> 1:05:51.760 and was a little banged up coming off a seven. 1:05:52.040 --> 1:05:53.320 Is that why he went to the glove? 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:56.040 I think it will because he went to the glove 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:58.480 after this year in New York for the first time, 1:05:58.600 --> 1:05:59.960 then kept it when he went to Arizona. 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:00.600 We'll get into it. 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:02.040 I think we got to do a little, but I'm 1:06:02.040 --> 1:06:04.440 pretty sure he told us that when he was on waver. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:05.680 I trusted a quarterback with the glove. 1:06:06.480 --> 1:06:13.280 I never trust a football player wearing ASEX. I've seen several. 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:17.480 I don't know what it is. You just can't trust 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:20.480 a man, just a football player wearing ASEX in practice. 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:23.520 It's a weird brand to see on the field, I'll 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:24.000 tell you that. 1:06:24.400 --> 1:06:26.720 And a big story with this team was the home 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:29.240 win streak eight no at home fourteen game home win 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:32.400 streak coming into this game. The offense this is like 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:34.920 late era greatest ye one turf, but still led the 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:37.640 NFL in scoring almost twenty eight points a game. Five 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.320 Hall of famers on this team. You got Marshall Falk, 1:06:40.440 --> 1:06:46.160 Orlando Pace, William Kurt and Isaac Bruce. Tory Holt should 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:47.320 be in What do you think, Steve. 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:53.320 Yeah, you should be Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce. Isaac went 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:56.480 to Santa Monica. Yeah yeah, dude. 1:06:56.600 --> 1:07:00.480 Mike Ferry, what did you now when you played and 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:04.200 you played against guys like this group pre game? 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:10.480 Did you Brandham? Uh, I'm not gonna butcher his name. Well, yeah, 1:07:11.200 --> 1:07:14.200 he went to Arizona. He was a big boy, eighty 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:17.960 six tight end. He was huge, huge. 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:20.680 But when you would play against a guy like Tory 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.120 JL or Isaac Bruce, I used to watch him bro 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:25.800 we watching Oh definitely, yeah. 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:29.360 I mean Isaac went to Utah, he went to Santa 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:32.760 Monica and like we always knew, like so it was 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:36.160 like I was like, wow, Like, man, I remember my 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:36.720 rookie year. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:37.560 We played. 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:39.840 Saint Louis Ramsy. 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:43.040 We were one to fifteen and Marshall was out there 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:44.960 just he was just like he had one hundred and 1:07:45.000 --> 1:07:49.040 twenty yards. At halftime, Trump candidate came in and I 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:51.760 was standing up watching. I was like, dang, I was 1:07:51.800 --> 1:07:54.440 like a fan. Yeah, he was getting molly wopped. I 1:07:54.520 --> 1:07:56.720 was just just watching him. 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.360 Marshall fulk was unreal. I watched him in this, we 1:07:59.400 --> 1:08:00.000 watched the game. 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:01.600 He was so dope. 1:08:02.520 --> 1:08:06.240 Now, yes, Christian mccaffee or Marshall fault because they're kind 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:07.040 of that same player. 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:11.200 They're both the focal point of that offense. Now they are. 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.400 But San Francisco runs it more though. 1:08:14.120 --> 1:08:17.040 I like both. But I'm just be honest with you. 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:22.720 I'm favorite of Marshall because I grew up in California 1:08:22.880 --> 1:08:24.000 knowing Marshall. 1:08:23.680 --> 1:08:24.759 Is from San Diego State. 1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:28.920 Like this dude, like Isaac kan is on this team, right, No, 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:33.080 he was, he would he had actually went to New 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:35.519 Orleans by then, but Isaac King went to Fairfax. I 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:39.000 went to UNI, right, So it's like, like, these are 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:43.080 guys on this team that like I grew up morning. 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:49.320 I remember, Bro, I'm friends with Johnathan Ogden. I remember 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:55.360 seeing Johnathan Ogden with that afro walking at Third Street 1:08:55.400 --> 1:09:00.240 prom when I was a kid at University High School. Yeah, Bro, 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:04.639 I met I'm at uh Stokely at the super Bowl 1:09:04.640 --> 1:09:07.479 in Detroit. Bro, it was like I used to have 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:12.880 the Stokely eighty three uh forty nine ers. Yeah, Like 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:16.439 so for me going to get some of these dudes, man, 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:18.400 I was they got? 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:18.800 I was? 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:20.960 It was dope. 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:21.200 Man. 1:09:21.560 --> 1:09:25.599 So going into this game though, did they still have that? 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:28.439 They were they still like the big dogs the NFC, 1:09:29.120 --> 1:09:31.160 and you guys were still not like were you knocking? 1:09:31.240 --> 1:09:33.280 Were you the hungry guys and they were kind of 1:09:33.320 --> 1:09:37.080 like that or were you guys not intimidated, but like, 1:09:37.240 --> 1:09:39.439 was it like a feat to beat these these guys 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:42.320 at this time were fucking flying high now they were, 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:46.320 but we felt that we you know, we just were tough. Yeah, 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:47.439 it was a tough team. 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:49.880 Ran the ball. You had you and Mohammed. 1:09:50.439 --> 1:09:54.439 Slick Rick slick Rick Ricky pro was on there. Oh Dad, 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:59.160 damn look you know, damn looker. Uh, Tommy Polly, I 1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:01.840 remember Tommy pop. It was Tommy Polly. And then before 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:06.680 that they had uh Brandon ba Brandon Allen who it 1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:09.000 was out of Tommy Polly and Brandon Allen they had 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:15.920 actually drafted those two guys instead of me, uh that year. 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:20.519 Yeah. Yeah, And so then they had Travis Fisher twenty two. 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:24.000 He was a corner. He was from uh University of 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:28.960 Central Florida. Uh, Fred Warner, he Fred Weary, he was 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:32.320 he had played with New Orleans so he was a 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:34.240 special team guy. So I went against him. 1:10:34.600 --> 1:10:37.280 And then Nis Williams he was he was great, knew him, 1:10:37.960 --> 1:10:38.920 I saw him recently. 1:10:39.040 --> 1:10:39.960 Yeah. 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:43.559 Yeah. So, I mean a lot of these guys. 1:10:43.479 --> 1:10:45.559 Were you Rams fan at all growing up because they 1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:46.040 were there. 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:52.760 You're a forty same here for my dog's name of 1:10:52.840 --> 1:10:58.599 Dwight and Montana. Really yeah, I love the Niners. I 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:05.400 love him too, man, Jerry Rice freaking JJ Stokes t 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:13.600 o but be careful, Roger Craig Roger huh hey. Ricky Waters, 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:16.840 Ricky Waters was a monster. Charlie Gardner back in the day. 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:21.519 Charlie wasn't the Raiders. Don't hear with the Eagles too, 1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:25.720 and he went to the Eagles those Niners teams Ken 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:27.400 Norton when he beat up the bag and they went 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:29.479 to I hate him because he went to Dallas Cowboys. 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:30.120 Uh. 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:35.760 Morton Hanks, Burton Hanks, he was he find guy, Tim 1:11:35.800 --> 1:11:38.840 McDonald did you ever find you? Burton Hanks? I used 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:43.760 to trying to sunk up to him so much good 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:45.960 to be nice to the find guy. I'd be over 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:48.000 throw a ball in the stands. You get an eight 1:11:48.000 --> 1:11:50.720 thousand dollars fine Merton Hanks. I'm like, yo, bro, like 1:11:50.760 --> 1:11:52.960 you remember you used to do the little next Yeah 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:55.080 it was cool, dude, Like he wouldn't give me no 1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:57.160 money back, like slap it. 1:11:57.520 --> 1:11:59.559 We're laughing. Jordy Nelson's a fine guy now. 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:02.840 Now Jordy Nelson's Jordy Nelson is a fine guy. 1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:04.759 Wow, that's unique. 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:07.320 We just randomly saw that the other name. We're laughing. Yeah, 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:10.519 let's Jackie break down the Panthers. 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:13.040 Panthers squad eleven and five, second year of the John 1:12:13.120 --> 1:12:16.120 Fox era. It's just two years removed from a one 1:12:16.160 --> 1:12:18.800 in fifteen season. That was the end of the George 1:12:18.840 --> 1:12:23.000 seafferd era. Speaking the Niners, Uh, Jordan Gross's rookie season, 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:27.240 Steve's third year, top ten defense Jake Diloane replaced Rodney 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:31.000 Pete week one, that Jacksonville game, and the rest is history. 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:34.680 The best damn Sports show Rodney Pete, like that show. 1:12:37.439 --> 1:12:42.760 John Sally, Sally, Chris Rose, Chris. 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:43.440 Show, Rock bro in Fox Sports. 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:46.559 Uh, Steve had a thousand yard receiving season his first. 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:51.439 This was also the keep pounding season with with Sam Mills. 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:53.880 Uh so that was that was a big narrative throughout 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:57.320 the season. But uh yeah, really right, the redular the 1:12:57.400 --> 1:12:59.320 ship quick after a one in fifteen season. 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:01.920 Now, how'd you guys turn around? How would you describe 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:03.439 this Panther's era. 1:13:04.240 --> 1:13:05.440 We were kind of surprised. 1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:07.559 How well, like when you look at the roster man, 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:10.519 just looking at the roster of these names, Rod Smart, 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:12.839 he hate me Kevin Dyson. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:14.920 He was a first round draft pick. They kent. 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:21.519 The Tennessee Titans drafted him over or before. Randy Moss, 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:25.599 Carl Hankedon Big Bank. He was from New Orleans. Make 1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:33.320 you say Muss and Muhammad, Ricky pro myself fifty two 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:38.080 linebacker Brian Allen. He was actually drafted by the Saint 1:13:38.160 --> 1:13:42.599 Louis Rams. Will Willerspoon Leicester Towns. He was linebacker. Hammer feet. 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:46.320 He had some bad feet. Greg Greg favors. He was 1:13:46.320 --> 1:13:49.599 pretty good. Vinnie Churchill was a great UH special teams guy. 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:52.920 Colin Branch he was pretty good. Gerro Cooper from Kansas. 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:56.000 He was especially in guys. Tecuz was an acquisition from 1:13:56.000 --> 1:13:59.680 Miami Dolphins. Dion Grant h d G was great. He 1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:03.320 was a safety. Will Hamilton he was pretty good. Reggie Howard, 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:07.559 he's from Memphis. Ricky Mannuels from UCLA. Mike Minner big 1:14:07.600 --> 1:14:08.360 Man was hit you. 1:14:10.040 --> 1:14:11.240 Till Man. He was kind of there. 1:14:11.360 --> 1:14:14.960 Dante Wesley he was a special teams guy from Historical 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:18.799 Black College, Al Wallace who acquired him from the Miami Dolphins. 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:21.440 He was actually a school teacher. Mike Rucker went to Nebraska. 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.840 Ken rash Mussen was pretty darn good. 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:25.960 He ended up going to Seattle and now he's a 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:27.599 fireman back in Charlotte obviously. 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:31.600 Julius Peppers. Kendall moorehead is a He is now a 1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:32.679 strength coach. 1:14:32.720 --> 1:14:35.240 I think at Alabama for a long time. Chris Jenkins, 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.439 big jank, he had went on and went to uh 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:41.640 the Jets. Heck of athletic dude. Brencha Buckner. He was 1:14:41.640 --> 1:14:45.200 an acquisition for the Samisipsco forty nine ers. Shane Burton was 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:47.479 a guy journeyman. He was pretty good. He had blocked 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:49.920 a lot of kicks. Matt Willing. You still see him 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:55.280 now on on commercials. He was a big six seven 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:57.960 six ' eight guy who was also knock knee. Todd 1:14:58.000 --> 1:15:02.800 Stucey was acquired from Minnesota too. Tom Res he was 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:05.559 pretty good. He was He lives in Atlanta. Bruce Nelson, 1:15:05.960 --> 1:15:08.600 he was a second round draft pick who we discovered 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:13.360 had a He has the jener of hips. Jeff Mitchell. 1:15:13.479 --> 1:15:15.519 He was a older guy, you know. James ended up 1:15:15.800 --> 1:15:16.400 playing well. 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:19.680 Then he went on to Miami, signed a big contract, 1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:21.160 got hurt, never played again. 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:22.680 Jordan Gross played that. You tald me. 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:26.559 Kevin Donnelly was an acquisition originally for the for the 1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:30.960 Houston Oilers. Then Miami it came here. Jermaine Wiggins was 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:34.000 with you guys. That's when, That's when, that's when. 1:15:33.880 --> 1:15:40.120 Wiggy came from uh new from you guys with Dan Henny, 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:41.479 Chris Mangum. 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:46.439 Pretty good dude. Lived in Mississippi. Ricky pro or the 1:15:47.160 --> 1:15:52.160 Brad Hoover. He was Coastal Carolina Nick Goings. Uh he 1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:55.800 was a full back and uh kind of like a 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:59.880 utility player. Ended up retiring because he got some concussions. 1:16:00.320 --> 1:16:03.280 To John Foster obviously head coach c LA. He was dope. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:06.160 Stephen Davis, I call him radio. He was coming from 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:10.599 uh the Commander's Chris wink. He was a fourth round pick. 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:12.280 He was drafted after me, but he got a bigger 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:16.800 shinning bones than me. From Florida State. He was Heisman Trophy. Yeah, 1:16:17.000 --> 1:16:20.280 he played baseball as well. And Rodney Pete great dude, 1:16:20.479 --> 1:16:22.720 sweet meat Rodney Pete, that's what he was called him. 1:16:22.760 --> 1:16:23.800 Then Jake DeLong. 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:26.760 Many talk about know your fucking team. You know you're 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:29.680 a good teammate. That's impressed. I could never do that, Bro. 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:31.879 You spit a fact about everyone. 1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:35.280 John Casey really good friend of mine taught me about business. 1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:36.519 That a kicker. 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:37.520 Wow. 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:43.400 And then uh Todds Stucy no toss owerbro big big 1:16:43.439 --> 1:16:44.919 bomb unique. 1:16:45.240 --> 1:16:47.880 And then uh Lefty he was just unique. 1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:48.840 That's he left. 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:53.400 He was unique. And then Jason Kyle, he was the 1:16:53.439 --> 1:16:57.120 long snapper. Uh long snapper for a long time. 1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:57.879 Damn. 1:16:57.960 --> 1:17:00.080 That's a first in the nuthouse of any guests. It 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:02.840 is like that knows their team that well, guy, But 1:17:03.040 --> 1:17:03.559 that's awesome. 1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:06.160 Who's the unsung heroes of this team? 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:07.360 Den Morgan? 1:17:07.520 --> 1:17:09.479 I think in that Super Bowl he ended up having like, 1:17:10.240 --> 1:17:13.559 uh seventeen or twenty two tackles. 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:17.040 If I'm not mistaken, Jesus Greg Favors. 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:23.880 Uh, there's a linebacker you're missing that we didn't Mark Fields. 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:25.040 Mark Fields is not on here? 1:17:25.160 --> 1:17:27.920 Yep. Mark Fields was supposed to be on there. Where's 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:30.759 Mark Fields of the season? Sometimes? 1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:36.320 Yeah, Mark Fields? He was on their unsung heroes man. 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:39.479 To be honest, it was a lot of them because 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:41.640 we were like kind of the band of misfits, Like 1:17:41.680 --> 1:17:45.000 we really weren't supposed to like be where we were 1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:47.600 being and how we were being there. Yeah, And so 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:50.360 it was unique, right, you had a five to nine 1:17:50.400 --> 1:17:54.799 receiver at X. You had an old man who uh Moussin. 1:17:56.439 --> 1:18:00.160 Then you had Carl Hankton, Kevin Dyson, Eugene Baker. He 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:03.479 went to Kent State, Eugene Baker. Yeah, he went to 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:04.040 Kent State. 1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:05.000 Uh. 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:07.200 I probably shouldn't say what I was just thinking, so 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:11.960 I stopped myself. Good dude, Eugene, what year was it? 1:18:11.960 --> 1:18:13.479 What did he go to Kent How long did he 1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:14.200 was on the team. 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:17.760 Uh, Eugene Baker's a good dude, man, It's good he 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:19.400 played Kent State. 1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:21.040 Kent State drafted nineteen ninety nine. 1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:23.320 I told you, Boom, you don't even know your school. 1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:25.240 I didn't even know Ken. 1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:27.439 I didn't even know what Kent State was until I 1:18:27.479 --> 1:18:31.320 went to on my visit. Yeah, but he still went 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:35.400 there though I did. No, he still went there. 1:18:35.439 --> 1:18:36.920 But I've heard his name. 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:39.320 How much are you guys still in contact, because like 1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:41.479 this was such a unique group of guys, Like you 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:42.800 still talk to these dudes all the time. 1:18:43.439 --> 1:18:48.559 Uh, Kevin Donald, he's uh he is at UC Chapel Hill. 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:49.080 Nice. 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:52.559 Jordan Gross just moved a couple of years ago, just 1:18:52.640 --> 1:18:57.439 moved back to to the whole Idaho. Jeff Mitchell is 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:01.000 Skinny had two help replacements to Tom rads is in 1:19:02.800 --> 1:19:06.559 he's in Atlanta. Matt Williams out here acting he hate me. 1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:09.760 He kind of comes and goes. Nick Goins is down 1:19:09.800 --> 1:19:12.519 at the beach in North Carolina. Brad who was head coaching. 1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:17.080 Stephen Davis is in South Columbia. Chris wink Is, Uh, 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:20.240 he was coaching a little bit. He's all over. Rodney's 1:19:20.240 --> 1:19:23.840 moved to Calabasas. Kevin Dyson is a school teacher and 1:19:23.880 --> 1:19:26.120 me and him play every year. We played golf together 1:19:26.479 --> 1:19:32.879 in Bandon Dunes. Uh, Bannon Due. It's in Portland. 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:34.160 It's probably nice. 1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:38.160 Oh, super nice. It's public too. It's a Muni. It's outstanding. 1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:41.720 Ricky Pole is doing stuff and soon coaching. Yeah, he's 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:45.840 coaching and coaching. Steve Smith's Uh Steve Smith now he's 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:46.839 Steve Smith Senior. 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:48.719 Chris Mangum. 1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:52.280 When I was with Baltimore, he came down from Mississippi 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:55.280 and drove down and came to the game. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:56.040 Uh. 1:19:56.280 --> 1:20:01.839 Jermaine Wiggins, Uh, he's doing radio. I believe Al Wallace 1:20:01.960 --> 1:20:05.719 is in Charlotte. Mike Rutgers in Charlotte. Ken Raths musa 1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:09.800 as a fireman. Chris Jenkins moved back to Maryland. Shane 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:13.679 Burton is I think he's up at the Lake Brischard 1:20:13.680 --> 1:20:18.240 Buckner was coaching deon Grants in Atlanta. Will Hamilton, I 1:20:18.240 --> 1:20:22.639 think is in Atlanta. Reggie Howards and Minas in Memphis. 1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:26.679 Ricky Manning Junior is coaching with the Las Vegas Raiders. 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:31.080 Mike Mannard just retired from coaching at Campbell. Dante Wesley 1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:33.240 I see him in Dallas every time, so. 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:35.920 You're seeing the team, You're seeing a bunch of the guys. 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:40.880 Dan Dan Morgan is the general manager for the for them. 1:20:40.920 --> 1:20:43.880 Will Witherspoon is doing I saw him a couple of 1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:48.559 years ago. He's actually he has a farm out in 1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:52.760 Saint Louis because after that year he resigned and got 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:55.960 a big deal with Saint Louis. So he does that stuff. 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:58.160 So I mean I talked to him. I try to 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:02.240 talk to him a lot. The guys make sure. Me 1:21:02.320 --> 1:21:05.400 and Jake talk probably once a month, Dope just checking 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:07.280 checking in. Me and Moose talk. 1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:11.760 So where were you guys in the chemistry factor this year? 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:14.479 Was this like your breakout year with him? Or how 1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:15.960 many years did you have him at that time? 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:20.160 Who Jake so this is so, this was great. This 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:24.360 is when we had went to Super Bowl. Then opening 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:28.080 week against Green Bay, I broke my ankle, so I 1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:31.240 was out moose ball. Then he went to Chicago and 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:32.720 then next year I came back and I won a 1:21:32.760 --> 1:21:33.360 triple crown. 1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:34.720 Yeah. 1:21:35.520 --> 1:21:37.719 First you were the last person to do it before 1:21:37.720 --> 1:21:41.160 Coop did it. Yeah, and then Sterling Sharp was before you, right, Yeah, 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:47.400 jer crazy Jerry Sterling, that's fucking gnarly. That is crazy 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:53.360 to be a triple crown yards tugs and receptions. 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:57.120 He hate me. If you played in the XFL, what 1:21:57.160 --> 1:21:58.040 would your name have been? 1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:02.360 I didn't have enough confidence like that, Like people think 1:22:02.400 --> 1:22:04.360 I have a lot of kind of I really don't. 1:22:04.600 --> 1:22:07.320 You wouldn't make a stab at it? No, well I 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:08.200 probably wouldn't have either. 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:10.320 I wouldn't have. 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:14.200 Now can we talk about you were there for so long? 1:22:14.240 --> 1:22:17.840 You play with Cam? Yeah, I played with Cam. 1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:19.839 I was up. I liked Cam. 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:24.680 Cam was Caim. He went to his I was just 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:28.080 he went to his own beat. Like Kim would be 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:29.880 out there and four he'd be there at four thirty 1:22:29.880 --> 1:22:31.519 in the morning. It was different because it was COVID. 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:33.679 So I only got him for like COVID year. He'd 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:35.160 be there at like four three in the morning on 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:39.400 the treadmill and like doing his thing, and he's just 1:22:39.439 --> 1:22:42.000 like and then he would do some crazy ass ship 1:22:42.080 --> 1:22:44.840 that make you laugh and stuff. But I had never 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:48.080 been around that. It was just different. But Kim was 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:51.400 a great dude, worked his dick off, worked hard. He 1:22:51.479 --> 1:22:51.960 worked hard. 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:54.840 Yeah, how you like him? You liked him? He was. 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:56.720 I was at a different I was at. 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:58.760 He told me that about you. I asked him about you. 1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:02.800 He goes, he goes. I was a he goes. 1:23:02.920 --> 1:23:05.160 He said that exact same thing. I think he goes. 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:07.599 Steve was at a different point in his career when 1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:09.160 I was there. I was twenty two or I was 1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:13.000 twenty years old. He was a grown ass man, you know, Like, 1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:15.639 so we were in that's the exact same thing he said. 1:23:16.479 --> 1:23:21.760 I was not or about anything other than ball. Yeah, 1:23:21.800 --> 1:23:28.400 I don't care less, that's what he said. Hey listen, No, yeah, hey, 1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:34.439 I was thinking, don't think that's it was. I love 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:38.800 him for that specific for us though, So here's what 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:40.120 I would say, right. 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:43.920 I really tried not to really talk much about it, 1:23:44.000 --> 1:23:48.360 because one looking back at how I was and looking 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:51.080 back where I was. I wanted to win, and I 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:54.800 was so concerned about winning. I didn't really care about 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:58.480 all that other stuff. That other stuff to me was irrelevant. 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:03.040 And I was fresh traded there. Yes, I wanted to win, 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:07.599 and I knew that my time was coming up. And 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:11.200 so there were times people would like in the organization, 1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:15.080 would say I'm jealous. I wasn't jealous. I wanted to win. 1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:18.639 You're right here, it's not oh, I'm jealous. No, I 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:22.840 wanted to win yesterday and today's the day. 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:24.840 So I was. 1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:29.000 I was in a hurry. I was all about man. 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:33.760 Seeing Marty Herney before they drafted camp Man, I had 1:24:33.760 --> 1:24:37.439 an off site meeting with the general manager, and man, 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:41.960 we had a crazy meeting. When I say crazy, like 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:48.000 I did and said stuff in football, Bro, it was 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.320 just like what are you doing? Like I go back 1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:55.840 and I like cringe, like, oh, my wife does that? 1:24:55.880 --> 1:24:59.360 Like oh, I had a meeting with Marty Herney one 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:03.320 time we met at one of the country clubs I 1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:06.559 was at and I had my notebook and I wrote 1:25:06.600 --> 1:25:10.240 down stats and I was like, bro, I am so 1:25:10.880 --> 1:25:15.360 tired of losing Marty, and I just want to win. 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:21.080 And so I had looked up Lynn swan stats and 1:25:21.160 --> 1:25:25.040 I put lynn Swan's stats of what he had and 1:25:25.040 --> 1:25:27.800 what I had, and I said, you know, statistically, I 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:31.240 have passed Lynn Swan four years ago. I said, but 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:34.519 you know the difference between Lynn Swan and me. Lynn 1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:41.439 Swan understood that if he satisfied his personal goals that 1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:47.000 he would exceed anything he can achieve because the team 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:52.639 goals were so much bigger. I said, my statistical goals 1:25:53.240 --> 1:25:57.599 are less and the team goals are less. Why am 1:25:57.600 --> 1:26:03.080 I here? We're not win and I'm not getting stats. 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:05.840 He looked at me and that was the first time 1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:07.960 like he was like he thought it was going to 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:10.320 be like a cussing out section. I was like, no, 1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:17.400 I'm trying to figure out. I remember saying Lynn Swan's 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:21.400 when he was with the Pittsburgh and his goals were 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:25.200 so high, he knew that he would surpass anything personally 1:26:25.240 --> 1:26:28.759 he can do. Because the team goes statistically, we're gonna 1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:31.720 be remarkable. I said, I'm not doing either, So why 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:32.439 should I stay? 1:26:33.000 --> 1:26:33.200 Yeah? 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:36.479 What am I holding out for? And he looked at 1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:39.760 me and he was like And then I stopped and 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:42.880 I said, now it's your turn. He said, I need 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:45.479 to get back to you because he thought it was 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:47.040 a bout and I was just like, bro, I'm just 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.679 I want to play. I love this game so much, 1:26:49.720 --> 1:26:53.000 but I also know what this game is. This game 1:26:53.080 --> 1:26:58.200 is about statistical stats, and so it just like so 1:26:58.600 --> 1:27:02.439 when Cam got there, man, I was so burnt out 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:06.679 and so I was such a complainer about not winning 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:11.639 that I did not have patience for all that other stuff. 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:15.439 Didn't have patience for him to develop. I was thirty something, 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:21.439 I get it, and so it was very complicated and 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:25.000 it was a loaded situation. And then we had you know, 1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:28.280 coach coach Rivere. He was getting his feet wet and 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:30.519 he was trying to figure it out, and it just 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:32.360 I was like, man, this ain't for me. 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:35.840 You get old in the same spot for a while 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:40.360 when things started going, I was a cranky old guy 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:40.920 for a while. 1:27:41.520 --> 1:27:44.200 But what's funny is when I left and went to Baltimore, 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:47.960 like the Ryan Khalils, the guys who were young, the 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:51.120 Louke Keigley's, they started when I came. When I was playing, 1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:53.280 they were like, I'm starting to be like Steve now 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:54.400 I'm all grumpy. 1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:57.920 I'm like, oh, you know, that's how it goes, Yeah, 1:27:58.240 --> 1:28:01.120 what is it? What is the Batman quote? You long 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:02.640 enough as a hero, you died the villain or some 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:07.200 Oh yeah, that's my quotes movies. 1:28:08.200 --> 1:28:10.120 Jack. Let's see what this game is about real quick, 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:11.439 all right, let's get into this thing. 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:15.519 This is the number two seed versus number three seed Panthers, 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:18.040 coming off a win against Dallas. Steve bald out that 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:21.240 game that was a Bank of America one hundred and 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:23.160 thirty five yards in a tuddy of the week before, 1:28:23.560 --> 1:28:27.280 so coming in riding high, this was the best first 1:28:27.360 --> 1:28:30.880 quarter offense versus the best first quarter defense. So we 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:33.599 only see three points in this first quarter, three to nothing. 1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:36.439 That would be a theme throughout this game. Field goals 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:39.759 eight combined field goals this game. Some field goal misses also. 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:43.559 Then in the second we get this weird first score, 1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:48.679 the touchdown for the Panthers, weird bamboozle fumble pitche moose 1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:49.840 recovers it in the end zone. 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:51.320 Panthers get up. 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:54.040 This was to put them up seven to six, tack 1:28:54.120 --> 1:28:55.559 on a field goal, up ten to nine. 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:56.040 At the half. 1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.679 So fewest, I mean, this was like a very low 1:28:59.720 --> 1:29:03.360 score game, which was surprising given given the offensive prowess 1:29:03.360 --> 1:29:05.840 of the Greatest Show on Turf, so just kind of 1:29:05.840 --> 1:29:07.320 a you knew it was gonna be a weird game, 1:29:07.640 --> 1:29:09.040 a long game, a war of attrition. 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:12.360 Uh after that first half, what was it like playing 1:29:12.400 --> 1:29:13.640 that turf, bro and. 1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:16.360 That turf was dope? I mean I don tennis shoes, 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:22.519 so you I think I was rebock then rocking rebox 1:29:22.520 --> 1:29:24.040 this game, Yeah, I was, I was rebok. I was 1:29:24.080 --> 1:29:24.599 moving too. 1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:27.240 We saw one of the rams guys had on some 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:30.920 sixteens looks sick the Golden Blue sixties. 1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:33.080 Jordan's yeah, oh yeah, that was Marshall. 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.320 Oh yeah, yeah, Folk used to play in those, usually 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:38.120 playing see this football mine, I got steel trapped. 1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:38.360 Baby. 1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:42.400 He fucking just rattled off every teammate, their their dog's name, 1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:44.520 there where they live, and their investments. 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:47.200 Hey, Dan Looker, Dan Looker was supposed to be that 1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:49.840 dude though, dang Dane Looker. 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:52.000 He's he was supposed to be that dude, was he? 1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:52.479 Yeah? 1:29:52.560 --> 1:29:54.120 They were, they were. He was supposed to be the 1:29:54.160 --> 1:29:55.120 guy that replaced. 1:29:54.880 --> 1:29:57.559 Ricky pro He probably Ricky Prol had it. He had 1:29:57.600 --> 1:30:00.479 some really good seasons with you guys, and with the 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:01.200 Greatest Show. 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.320 He won did anyone. He was in that Super Bowl. Yeah, 1:30:03.320 --> 1:30:05.479 with them. Griggy Pole was a good little players, Like 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:07.960 is he how tall is he? I think i've met him? 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:08.800 Is he? 1:30:08.920 --> 1:30:09.760 Everybody's stall me? 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:13.680 So I don't know five eleven? How tall you? Five ten? 1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:16.840 Yeah? Yeah, I just I'm short, So I'm just kind 1:30:16.840 --> 1:30:17.280 of used. 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:18.439 To it and I get it same. 1:30:18.760 --> 1:30:20.080 I was just hoping he would be in the short 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:22.880 game they list at six feet. 1:30:23.520 --> 1:30:25.080 Once you hit six, it's not as cool. 1:30:25.200 --> 1:30:29.880 Yeah, now that it's over, it's cooler that you're shorter, 1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:32.679 because then you let you know that you were able 1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:34.040 to go and do what you did on the field 1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:37.280 against those guys at a That's that's. 1:30:37.200 --> 1:30:38.000 How I think bro. 1:30:38.400 --> 1:30:40.759 I didn't even know I had one hundred and sixty 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:41.519 three yards. 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:46.360 Yeah, And John Fox was opening up the playbook earlier. 1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:48.639 This one two into rounds at the beginning. You threw 1:30:48.720 --> 1:30:51.559 one up early, no tragic. 1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:55.920 So this game's going on, you guys are going into overtime. 1:30:57.240 --> 1:31:00.240 What's the mentality of the team, like going in that 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:02.519 second overtime after like, I. 1:31:02.439 --> 1:31:04.040 Mean, we weren't even supposed to be there. 1:31:04.520 --> 1:31:06.440 You're playing with house money, You're feeling. 1:31:06.120 --> 1:31:08.519 Like yeah, and then you can see I had a 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:12.360 visor on because Travis. Uh yeah, he poked me in 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:12.920 an eye four. 1:31:13.520 --> 1:31:17.479 Yeah hurt. It does, especially when you got your eyes 1:31:17.520 --> 1:31:17.920 open too. 1:31:20.280 --> 1:31:21.640 That was back when they had the major in the 1:31:21.640 --> 1:31:24.240 minor face masking penalties. They threw the major on him 1:31:24.240 --> 1:31:26.639 that one. What like the like remember you could get 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:29.920 the fifteen yard face mask or like the uh yeah. 1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:33.200 And then when I came back after the visor, he 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:35.160 jammed me again. And the thing in the rep that 1:31:35.200 --> 1:31:37.360 was the first time the ref was like another one 1:31:37.360 --> 1:31:37.719 of those. 1:31:37.760 --> 1:31:41.080 I was like, shout out to the visor. That's crazy. 1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:42.920 They didn't call that stuff back in the day. Really 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:46.280 it was. It was very very It was very I 1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:47.360 was watching some of these guys. 1:31:47.439 --> 1:31:50.360 I saw a fullback he broke out and he kind 1:31:50.360 --> 1:31:52.400 of went out of bounce guy like a second later. 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.479 Yeah, but this one was you can see it. It 1:31:55.520 --> 1:32:00.960 was like he hit you with the three students, was it? No, 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:02.120 it was a straight accident. 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:06.000 He's an offhand jam guy. That's usually where they get. 1:32:06.000 --> 1:32:09.200 You get the offhand jam guy. Sometimes they missed you. 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:12.000 Nah, he was double jam that's how jam. Yeah, and 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:13.640 I kind of lowered. 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:14.880 Yeah, yep. 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:17.040 What was the turning point of this game, though. 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.360 I'll be I mean I had hair back then. I 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:25.839 don't know, bro. It was so back and forth. 1:32:26.000 --> 1:32:28.559 It was so it was so back and forth that 1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:30.720 it was just like we were just holding on for 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:31.320 their life. 1:32:31.360 --> 1:32:31.559 Man. 1:32:31.800 --> 1:32:35.920 Now walking through the walk off, you do X clown again. 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:39.040 You hit it in the fourth quarter, I believe, and 1:32:39.080 --> 1:32:41.640 you have like a thirty yard game. Yeah, when you 1:32:41.680 --> 1:32:45.640 guys line up to call it, it's first play, what 1:32:45.640 --> 1:32:47.160 do you think and they're giving you Are you thinking 1:32:47.160 --> 1:32:48.519 this is just for a chunk player? 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:51.040 Are do you know that you're going to be covered? Well? 1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:54.360 I knew it was cover too, Yeah, So I stemmed inside, 1:32:54.439 --> 1:32:57.840 I run, I lean, But when I leaned, I leaned 1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:01.800 so much inside this time that when he threw it, 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:06.240 I wasn't sure in cover too exactly. 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:12.040 How far or how close, well, how far the safety was. 1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:14.920 So when I leaned, I kind of had that lean 1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:19.080 like you know that WinCE, and went there and he 1:33:19.160 --> 1:33:19.479 wasn't there. 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:23.320 It was like, oh, I can't go Yeah, and so 1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:24.680 that's that's what it was. 1:33:24.760 --> 1:33:27.640 But but then once I got it, I was like, 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:28.840 ain't nobody catching me? 1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:29.920 Right? 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:32.240 You're fast? I kind of was. 1:33:32.400 --> 1:33:33.200 I was surprised. 1:33:33.320 --> 1:33:36.040 What do you mean, Kana was that was crazy I 1:33:36.080 --> 1:33:39.240 had but because I had a long stride and so 1:33:39.520 --> 1:33:41.720 it took me a little bit of time to build up. 1:33:42.520 --> 1:33:42.760 Nah. 1:33:42.800 --> 1:33:47.080 But there's very rarely a film of you getting getting caught. 1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:47.840 I got caught. 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:51.880 But for being a five to nine guy to be 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:53.639 able to hold your high. 1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:58.040 Speed, that's insane. And you get them young legs. Those 1:33:58.040 --> 1:33:59.200 are young legs. 1:33:59.600 --> 1:34:02.000 Yeah, as your third You know, when you start looking 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:04.360 at your legs when you're watching film, you watch your 1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:07.160 older film, You're like, man, you look like a different 1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:10.120 At least I could always see what year my career 1:34:10.160 --> 1:34:12.080 is through the film of how my legs looked. 1:34:12.240 --> 1:34:16.920 Really through the speed, I don't watch film like that. 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:21.800 When you hit the ends and what did you do? Bro? 1:34:21.880 --> 1:34:24.960 I was so shocked, man, I was like, oh man, yeah. 1:34:25.040 --> 1:34:27.160 And then they came and it was. 1:34:27.120 --> 1:34:28.879 It was dope. How did you guys celebrate? 1:34:30.000 --> 1:34:31.320 Oh we got back on a flight? 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:34.080 Uh was it was it celebrate time? Or did you 1:34:34.080 --> 1:34:35.479 guys know you had another job? 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:38.120 We knew we had another job, but it was it 1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:40.720 was dope though, Like mister Richardson at the time, who 1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:43.559 was the owner, like my family was there, so it was. 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:45.240 It was great, Like it was a whole bunch of 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:47.840 uh people there. Man, it was dope. 1:34:48.200 --> 1:34:51.400 You got like, we can hear walk off in baseball 1:34:51.439 --> 1:34:54.120 all the time, but to have a walk off in 1:34:54.200 --> 1:34:58.040 double overtime, what's that? That's fucking gotta that's insane, that 1:34:58.080 --> 1:34:58.960 feeling it is. 1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:01.880 But a lot of times, just like I mean, I 1:35:01.880 --> 1:35:04.120 remember when you were with I was with the Ravens 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:07.599 and you threw that pass like you don't really know 1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:10.800 it until like it's kind of like over. 1:35:12.000 --> 1:35:15.439 You don't appreciate it until it's gone home. Man. Yeah, 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:16.479 you never enjoy it. 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:19.479 No, I never got to enjoy this because the next 1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:20.960 year you just trying to go again. 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:24.559 Yeah, I get it. I get it. 1:35:24.720 --> 1:35:26.880 Just a sum that went up before we put a 1:35:26.880 --> 1:35:29.200 bow on it. The Rams came back from down twenty 1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:33.640 three to twelve in the fourth quarter, touchdown, two point conversion, 1:35:34.000 --> 1:35:36.800 on side kick recovery tie it up at twenty three. 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:38.959 Convert a big fourth and fourth. 1:35:38.840 --> 1:35:40.679 After the game we've done in the last two weeks, 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:42.439 I had an on side kick recovery. We did the 1:35:42.760 --> 1:35:47.719 twenty fourteen patter the Seahawks Seahawks Green Bay, remember remember 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:53.000 that game where Aaron Rodgers and I would get Rest 1:35:52.960 --> 1:35:54.880 Wilson through five interceptions, they still won. 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:56.240 Yeah. 1:35:56.320 --> 1:35:58.160 Crazy, It's crazy because when you. 1:35:58.120 --> 1:36:00.680 See who dropped that pass, his career has never been 1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:03.840 side Oh there was the running back who was a 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:08.000 He was a running back and wide receiver, a green Star. 1:36:08.120 --> 1:36:10.920 Yeah, Brandon Bostik dropped it on the on side kick 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:13.240 because Jordy Nelson was behind him. He was supposed to 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:15.360 be the blocker. He jumped up to catch it like this. 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:16.960 They hit him right in the face mask. 1:36:18.400 --> 1:36:18.639 Yeah. 1:36:18.760 --> 1:36:21.160 I was to watch the on side kick now, like, 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:24.120 no one's getting on side kicks nowadays, not with these 1:36:24.160 --> 1:36:26.200 new rules and stuff. Even you gotta you gotta like 1:36:26.240 --> 1:36:27.680 tell the team somebody. 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:28.280 Got an onside kick. 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:30.400 Not yet, not in the new dynamic. 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:33.120 Somebody did get onside kick a couple of weeks ago, 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:37.040 two weeks ago. Damn that just I'm dead. 1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:39.920 It's certainly been someone just did it out of the 1:36:39.960 --> 1:36:40.599 new rules. 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:43.200 How do you like the new rules? I like it. 1:36:43.200 --> 1:36:43.880 It doesn't matter. 1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:47.400 Like I don't think it matters what cowboys first one 1:36:47.680 --> 1:36:53.479 told you, bang man paying attention analyst, You were analysts. 1:36:53.479 --> 1:36:55.559 I've been trying to get this you know I've been 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:58.160 having to do all this research for this interview. 1:36:58.200 --> 1:37:04.360 Dude, he's too busy watching young Legs on the film Legs. 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:08.240 Jokers. Everyone's got everyone's got a joke. Now, huh, everyone's 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:12.000 got jokes. That's right, that's right, that's right. Is this 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:16.160 the most memorable player in your career for you? Or 1:37:16.200 --> 1:37:17.120 is there a different play? 1:37:18.080 --> 1:37:20.599 There's a lot of plays, like I remember certain little 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:22.200 things about nuances. 1:37:22.800 --> 1:37:24.639 What's your favorite play that you made? 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:28.520 I think this, I mean, this is the most memorable 1:37:28.760 --> 1:37:31.920 in my Panther history. I mean the biggest play is 1:37:31.960 --> 1:37:34.240 I always leave. To be honest, man, is just making 1:37:34.280 --> 1:37:38.360 us to the league? Yeah, Like I respect that because 1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:40.519 you know, I was man. I used to ride the 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:46.559 bus back and forth here on Woolsher the three one. Yeah, man, 1:37:46.600 --> 1:37:49.360 I used to day dream, fall asleep on the bus 1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:50.960 hoping to play in the league. 1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:51.519 Yeah. 1:37:51.880 --> 1:37:54.639 So man, every you know, every every chance. 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:58.280 Like That's why now I never say, you know, act 1:37:58.400 --> 1:37:59.960 like you've been there before, because I know, you know, 1:38:00.120 --> 1:38:00.679 what's this over? 1:38:00.720 --> 1:38:04.559 It is over. It's no takebacks, no givebacks. 1:38:03.520 --> 1:38:09.000 No take backs, no givebacks. He's deep, Yes, that was 1:38:09.320 --> 1:38:11.439 I was profound. I love that. What's the what's the 1:38:11.520 --> 1:38:13.880 legacy and what's the wrap up aftermath of this game? 1:38:13.960 --> 1:38:16.400 And then in overtime we get two missed field goals 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:20.320 in the first overtime to end overtime one, Mark Boulger 1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:24.600 throws an interception which would set up third and fourteen. 1:38:24.160 --> 1:38:24.559 From the game. 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:27.600 Bulger reminds me of a little bit Bulger I was 1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:30.120 looking at the film, kind of reminds me of Jimmy G. 1:38:30.200 --> 1:38:31.040 The way he throws it. 1:38:31.360 --> 1:38:33.559 I've never called it Jimmy G pass Well, Mark Bolger 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:35.720 that thing like butter bro I called it one of 1:38:35.720 --> 1:38:38.120 his passes in uh in the Pro Bowl. 1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:42.439 Yeah, but like how they're throwing motion, They're both kind 1:38:42.479 --> 1:38:46.280 of keep it low and they kind of that that 1:38:46.360 --> 1:38:47.280 little quick release. 1:38:47.640 --> 1:38:50.160 I'm a little bias whole quarterbacks. I think they get 1:38:50.160 --> 1:38:52.920 way too much credit. Yeah, so, I like I'm very 1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:56.800 critical of quarterbacks. Yeah, Like I'm very judging of quarterbacks. 1:38:57.120 --> 1:38:58.639 Gotta be super judgy. 1:38:59.320 --> 1:39:01.360 I mean, the they're the ones that gotta be judged 1:39:01.360 --> 1:39:04.800 the most. They're making the most money. I Yeah, just 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:08.519 I'm very judging, Like, like who everybody, all. 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:10.639 Of them judgment on. 1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:16.240 Tom Nothing, Thomas Crafty, Crafty, he. 1:39:16.439 --> 1:39:18.960 Was who's your favorite quarterback growing up? 1:39:19.439 --> 1:39:20.080 Steve Young? 1:39:20.400 --> 1:39:22.280 Steve Young, I. 1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:28.000 Like Randall Cunningham. Yeah, uh, I like uh Troy. 1:39:28.080 --> 1:39:34.120 Troy was good, you know how I love though like two, 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:36.720 I thought he was just he was crazy good. Keith Buyers, 1:39:37.080 --> 1:39:40.559 Keith Byers, Yeah, he's like a full back slash half 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:42.200 bag going number forty one? 1:39:42.880 --> 1:39:43.439 What team? 1:39:43.840 --> 1:39:44.040 Uh? 1:39:44.080 --> 1:39:44.599 He was with? 1:39:45.000 --> 1:39:50.080 Philadelphia Eagles, Dolphins, Dolphins, Pats, Pats for a minute, yep, 1:39:50.160 --> 1:39:50.960 past for a minute. 1:39:51.400 --> 1:39:54.640 Wow, your your football acromen is very disappointing. 1:39:55.120 --> 1:39:56.280 Been hitting the head a lot too? 1:39:56.640 --> 1:40:00.759 Oh wow, is that what you're going with? That excuse 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:04.799 doesn't work, Steve can No. 1:40:06.080 --> 1:40:10.040 Jaggie final scoring this one twenty nine twenty three Panthers 1:40:10.080 --> 1:40:12.839 walk it off. Baby would go on to beat Philly 1:40:12.880 --> 1:40:15.680 in the NFC Championship get to the Super Bowl, as 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:19.960 we talked about earlier. And then one little last fun 1:40:20.040 --> 1:40:23.439 fact here. This was an old NFL Europe matchup. Jake 1:40:23.520 --> 1:40:27.920 Delone backed up Mark Bulger for the Frankfurt Galaxy. 1:40:27.400 --> 1:40:28.320 In nineteen ninety eight. 1:40:28.439 --> 1:40:31.280 Galaxy for all you NFL europe Heads at home, just 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:32.200 throwing that one in there. 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:34.840 Fighting dude, I wish they had Europe when I was younger, 1:40:34.920 --> 1:40:35.439 that would rock. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.320 Man. I probably would have been over there. I could 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:40.080 see you over there. It wouldn't that been. 1:40:39.920 --> 1:40:41.639 Cool if you were a practice squad guy or something 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:43.280 you got to go live in Europe for a year 1:40:43.320 --> 1:40:44.080 and play football. 1:40:44.720 --> 1:40:47.759 No, not not at my rookie I was ignorant. Nope. 1:40:48.080 --> 1:40:50.800 Yeah, now that I look on it, like, now, yes, 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:54.200 I'm like, let's go. Yeah, but no, who's the mount 1:40:54.280 --> 1:40:55.680 Rushmore Panthers? 1:40:55.960 --> 1:41:00.439 Man, you ain't giving me a troost pass? Except pass, 1:41:00.880 --> 1:41:05.719 I mean for me, it always starts with Samuels. Yeah, 1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:09.960 shout out everybody else other than that, everybody under that. 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:11.040 Do what you may. 1:41:11.320 --> 1:41:11.880 I don't. 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:13.720 I'm not. I'm not getting involved in that. 1:41:13.840 --> 1:41:15.800 Yeah, if you don't have to keep pounding wristband back 1:41:15.800 --> 1:41:17.160 in the day, I don't know what you were doing. 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:24.960 Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We 1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:27.400 gotta name the game. What's the name of this game? 1:41:27.520 --> 1:41:29.639 These are a couple of things that we came up with. 1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:33.120 The X Clown Game, the Turf Killer Rip Greatest Show 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:36.320 on Turf, Pretty versus Gritty or do you have a 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:40.519 different name. The name is the It's the ex clown game. 1:41:40.520 --> 1:41:42.240 That's the name of the game, the X Clown game 1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:45.679 will go with it. Score the game presented by door Dash. 1:41:46.200 --> 1:41:49.879 Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it? 1:41:50.000 --> 1:41:53.400 Steak zero to ten decimals? Okay, the stakes of this game. 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:58.519 What you gotta score it like the steaks, like the 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:02.600 importance of like ten ten ten, I go with a 1:42:02.720 --> 1:42:03.280 nine win. 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:07.360 You you gotta watch the show. 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:09.639 I did watch it. I didn't watch it till the end. 1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:12.080 Yeah, they got watched the very end. If it's a 1:42:12.120 --> 1:42:14.040 super Bowl, it's it's like a nine to five. 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:16.479 If it's a super Bowl with like importance, like they're 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:19.120 going for a double repeat or something, you know, then 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:19.679 it's a ten. 1:42:20.400 --> 1:42:20.559 Ok. 1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:24.599 Sorry, like space jams games like ten because like world 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:27.080 was at risk, that's the standard. 1:42:27.280 --> 1:42:32.360 No star power of the game zero to Ooh. 1:42:32.880 --> 1:42:35.479 Is it based on today? Or is it based on 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:38.160 back then? Back then? Back then? 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:39.160 Back then? 1:42:39.320 --> 1:42:41.559 Were five? Dam back then? 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:44.639 What about today? What would the today score be? Bro 1:42:44.800 --> 1:42:48.439 fifteen fifteen? So back then a five six. 1:42:48.280 --> 1:42:51.280 Hall of famers in this thing, six hall of famers 1:42:51.880 --> 1:42:54.519 and some futures and some futures in some futures. 1:42:54.560 --> 1:43:00.240 See Jason Sehorn was out there. He's a he is 1:43:00.280 --> 1:43:02.080 the Michael Irvan killer. Jason Seahorn. 1:43:02.200 --> 1:43:04.439 I was, I was playing against Seahorn. I don't know. 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:05.559 I ran past him. 1:43:07.120 --> 1:43:07.680 He's due. 1:43:07.680 --> 1:43:09.200 He lives in Charlotte, though our kids went to the 1:43:09.280 --> 1:43:09.880 same school. 1:43:10.160 --> 1:43:11.080 Great, dude, that's right. 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:11.880 I forgot about that. 1:43:12.040 --> 1:43:15.000 Yeah, star power for me. I'm gonna go with like eight. 1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:18.880 Jack had a seven nine out of seven. The gameplay 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:21.160 of the game. How the game played. 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:23.760 Out, Oh, it was. It was very uh it was 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:25.880 white knuckled. So I said seven. 1:43:25.840 --> 1:43:28.160 Seven, I go, I go. I mean there was a 1:43:28.160 --> 1:43:30.840 lot of fun plays in this this game for the. 1:43:30.880 --> 1:43:35.920 Viewer, kick miss field goals, nail biders, first double ot 1:43:36.080 --> 1:43:40.280 game six, I remember, the longest game in NFL history. 1:43:40.640 --> 1:43:42.679 Yeah, I gotta go, probably eight and eight and a half. 1:43:43.680 --> 1:43:46.599 Jack had a nine point three. The game was awesome. 1:43:46.640 --> 1:43:49.599 The name of the game, the X Clown Game. Okay, 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:54.320 score in and importance of all time? How people are 1:43:54.360 --> 1:43:55.280 gonna remember this game? 1:43:55.600 --> 1:43:57.880 Oh, I mean our history is a ten ten. 1:43:58.200 --> 1:43:59.960 Yeah, ex clown people know what you mean? 1:44:00.120 --> 1:44:01.479 Yes, I knew what it mant. 1:44:01.520 --> 1:44:04.600 I'll go with the eight point eight wow jacket A 1:44:04.680 --> 1:44:07.680 nine point one at eight or well, I mean we've 1:44:07.680 --> 1:44:09.200 had the immaculate reception game. 1:44:09.240 --> 1:44:10.760 There's like listening to you. 1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:14.920 Eight point four four. 1:44:16.760 --> 1:44:21.280 That puts us tied for like sixteen seventeenth with Wrestlmania 1:44:21.320 --> 1:44:24.120 thirty five with two belts in the double comeback game 1:44:24.200 --> 1:44:25.520 Ravens Patriots twenty. 1:44:25.280 --> 1:44:32.839 Fourteen, right by the double comeback top twenty. Oh okay, 1:44:33.240 --> 1:44:33.920 it's really good. 1:44:34.120 --> 1:44:38.000 I'm just I've never watched till the end, so I'm 1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:40.840 kind of I'm like double Like I'm looking at this. 1:44:41.120 --> 1:44:46.040 All the games we've thought, oh wow, we've done the Bananigans, 1:44:46.280 --> 1:44:48.360 we did the Yankees Red Sox. 1:44:48.520 --> 1:44:51.280 Oh, the wheelchair game? Is that what Paul pierce his pants? 1:44:51.479 --> 1:44:55.799 He didn't confirm he'd no, we confirmed he didn't. Technically, 1:44:55.880 --> 1:44:57.560 that's what he says. What we go by it he 1:44:57.560 --> 1:44:58.479 didn't shit his pants. 1:44:59.400 --> 1:45:01.679 I don't believe Steve, Where do you stand on that one? 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:02.280 On? 1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:09.280 What did he or did he not? What poop on himself? Problem? 1:45:11.960 --> 1:45:15.439 In the right white the wide right game? That was tough. 1:45:16.120 --> 1:45:18.200 Before we wrap up, I'd love to ask you a question. 1:45:18.280 --> 1:45:20.720 This season you went on to play the Patriots in 1:45:20.720 --> 1:45:23.679 the Super Bowl. Tyler is a friend of the show. 1:45:23.720 --> 1:45:26.599 I would just love to hear going against with That's 1:45:26.680 --> 1:45:30.200 like it was dope, Like Tyler is very skilled. 1:45:30.600 --> 1:45:33.960 I ended up man going against something of the Patriots 1:45:34.080 --> 1:45:35.440 was was cool because. 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:37.400 We had this whole deal. 1:45:37.439 --> 1:45:40.080 We weren't going to get pushed around, like uh, they 1:45:40.120 --> 1:45:43.599 pushed around the coats and I was like, bro, they 1:45:43.600 --> 1:45:47.240 are that is not happening with us. 1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:48.200 Uh. 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:50.759 But ty like he when he went to the Jets, 1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:54.519 we had like a little I had emotion and it 1:45:54.640 --> 1:45:56.559 was a play coming this way and he recognized it 1:45:56.600 --> 1:45:59.280 by aligneman and assignment and shot the gap and I 1:45:59.320 --> 1:46:03.280 got yelled at, like man, So I just remember he 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:07.800 was like really smart, real smart Hall of Famer. Yeah, 1:46:08.000 --> 1:46:10.240 but you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just there's 1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:12.400 a little small things that like, you know, you're like, oh, 1:46:12.400 --> 1:46:14.639 he's a good player, but they were like little small things. 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:16.840 It was like, man, this dude, if. 1:46:16.760 --> 1:46:19.120 You're a Hall of Fame corner, you're a guy that 1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:19.800 knows the game. 1:46:20.200 --> 1:46:22.080 If you look at all the Hall of Fame corners, 1:46:22.120 --> 1:46:24.120 they were all revis is gonna be one. 1:46:24.320 --> 1:46:25.519 He's yeah, he is one. 1:46:25.600 --> 1:46:26.800 Though he's in. 1:46:27.479 --> 1:46:30.400 I hate going I hate it going against with it, 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:35.400 and and uh when he was waiting with you guys. 1:46:37.000 --> 1:46:39.200 Yeah, Pat, Yeah, we were battling out. Bro. 1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:41.360 You you got a good ass game. Didn't you score 1:46:41.840 --> 1:46:45.479 in the first half of the second half? We got adjustments? Yeah, 1:46:46.000 --> 1:46:47.519 adjustments yeah yeah. 1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:50.599 Steve, we missed anything about this game? Well, I don't 1:46:50.600 --> 1:46:52.879 think that was dope, Bro, that was awesome. 1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:56.479 Anything you want to plug ironed out on YouTube, go 1:46:56.560 --> 1:46:57.760 check it out, folks. 1:46:57.439 --> 1:46:58.439 Then go check it out. 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:00.000 Anything else. Eighty nine. 1:47:00.000 --> 1:47:05.240 I ain't know, underdog. I mean, we can exchange numbers. 1:47:05.320 --> 1:47:06.559 I keep talking to your handling. 1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:10.000 Why didn't It's not even that, It's just I mean 1:47:10.040 --> 1:47:10.559 I didn't know what. 1:47:11.200 --> 1:47:14.320 Yeah, it's sometimes asking for guys numbers, you don't know 1:47:14.320 --> 1:47:15.920 how they're going to react. 1:47:16.240 --> 1:47:19.960 I mean you got a child, right, Yeah I do. 1:47:21.280 --> 1:47:24.640 I'll do thirty eight. You've been told no once or 1:47:24.640 --> 1:47:26.320 twice in your life a few times. 1:47:26.479 --> 1:47:28.439 You would be all right, then, Bro, will be all right. 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:30.400 Yeah, but no, I wouldn't. 1:47:30.640 --> 1:47:34.040 I would say, Man, I have not done myself for 1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:37.000 good service by like kind of how I've kind of 1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:39.960 carried myself when I played. But Bro, I'll be honest, Man, 1:47:40.200 --> 1:47:43.680 I come humbly, come in like Bro, I want to 1:47:43.760 --> 1:47:47.599 keep the brotherhood, and just like hanging out and chilling 1:47:47.640 --> 1:47:50.280 bro all day. And the fact that you have lived 1:47:50.320 --> 1:47:53.280 here so many years. 1:47:53.520 --> 1:47:55.280 I've only been here for eighteen months. 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:58.160 Bro, You've been You've been coming back and forth to 1:47:58.320 --> 1:48:02.800 l life. I'm inn into the year for how many years? 1:48:02.840 --> 1:48:03.360 Like ten? 1:48:03.760 --> 1:48:06.479 Okay, but you already said you're in North Carolina. You 1:48:06.479 --> 1:48:08.639 out here, man, My family's out here. 1:48:08.960 --> 1:48:10.960 Like when I got your home address, I was thinking 1:48:10.960 --> 1:48:13.120 about sending some boys up just to knock on the 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:14.040 door and just let you know. 1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:15.679 That's how close. 1:48:17.200 --> 1:48:22.080 Gotta check in, just check in, se what we'll exchange numbers. 1:48:22.080 --> 1:48:24.479 And I would love to hang out, play golf, play gold. 1:48:24.479 --> 1:48:26.080 I would love to. I just didn't know. You know, 1:48:26.120 --> 1:48:28.400 I didn't know. I'm like a rook to you. You're 1:48:28.560 --> 1:48:29.960 you're Steve fucking man. 1:48:30.120 --> 1:48:31.720 You're like one of my heroes is a kid. I'm 1:48:31.720 --> 1:48:33.840 not just gonna slide up in your fucking. 1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:36.000 Hey man, it's Julian Edelman. Bro, how are you doing? 1:48:36.080 --> 1:48:40.519 Would you like? No, that's dope, That's how I feel. No, 1:48:40.880 --> 1:48:44.120 that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so let's do it. Let's 1:48:44.160 --> 1:48:46.160 do it. Yeah, what show? 1:48:46.280 --> 1:48:52.960 Thank you, Steve, appreciate it man, Steve Smith Senior, legend, 1:48:52.960 --> 1:48:54.439 senior legend guy. 1:48:54.520 --> 1:48:56.280 We've been waiting to get in that house for a minute. 1:48:56.600 --> 1:49:01.360 Such a fan of how he approached the game. 1:49:02.040 --> 1:49:04.800 You know everyone everyone has that that thought, Like he 1:49:04.840 --> 1:49:07.080 even talked about it. What what what is Steve Smith 1:49:07.160 --> 1:49:10.320 really like? But to sit here and go name for 1:49:10.439 --> 1:49:15.160 name and like put a fact a location, uh like 1:49:15.200 --> 1:49:18.000 a Snapple fact on every teammate he had from twenty 1:49:18.080 --> 1:49:21.080 five years ago. Bro, that's fucking impressive. And as a 1:49:21.200 --> 1:49:25.599 first something that's like, that's not only like intelligently crazy 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:28.519 that you can remember that, but like your eq like 1:49:28.600 --> 1:49:32.000 to like know who you're playing with. And I don't 1:49:32.040 --> 1:49:35.599 know that. I feel terrible. I felt like a shitty teammate. 1:49:35.640 --> 1:49:38.960 After that, I went and called David Andrews and Brian 1:49:39.000 --> 1:49:40.720 Hoyor just to call him and say, hey, guys, how 1:49:40.760 --> 1:49:43.240 you doing, dev what's going on? 1:49:43.680 --> 1:49:45.880 Bro? Gott to keep in touch with the boys? I know. 1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:46.920 I love that. 1:49:46.920 --> 1:49:48.840 That was because usually we throw the we throw the 1:49:48.920 --> 1:49:50.920 rosters up, we go through them. He look, Oh he 1:49:51.000 --> 1:49:53.400 was good. I remember every guy where he's at, what. 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:56.679 He's It was incredible. And also just listening home, we 1:49:56.960 --> 1:49:58.880 cut down a lot too. There was more there. 1:49:59.160 --> 1:50:01.560 It was way more there that we will have retroact 1:50:02.120 --> 1:50:04.360 cut down a lot of that too, because he had 1:50:04.400 --> 1:50:04.760 all of it. 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:08.040 Competitor. He might have dropped a couple of Social Security numbers. 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:11.639 I think address literally. 1:50:12.600 --> 1:50:14.519 I just wanted to hear some like bayou stories of 1:50:14.600 --> 1:50:17.640 him and Jake DeLoone, like down in the Bayou doing something. 1:50:17.400 --> 1:50:18.360 I know, retire. 1:50:18.439 --> 1:50:23.160 Those commercials were so funny. They Yes, there's a Jangles commercial. 1:50:23.400 --> 1:50:24.720 Did we ask We didn't ask that. 1:50:24.760 --> 1:50:26.479 We didn't get to ask him about the Bojangles dukes 1:50:26.479 --> 1:50:29.839 that had you know all time Steven make it nervous. 1:50:30.040 --> 1:50:31.559 I know, I was shrunk. I was a little bit. 1:50:31.720 --> 1:50:33.720 I like. I like that you're a little under hills too. 1:50:33.760 --> 1:50:35.920 I like when you get uncomfortable. He got me, got 1:50:35.920 --> 1:50:37.240 me a little nerve. I just didn't. 1:50:37.479 --> 1:50:39.439 I mean, this is like, you know, one of my 1:50:39.520 --> 1:50:44.240 childhood heroes, and he's for real makes me nervous. 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:48.559 Great all time game all overlooked awesome. I think there's 1:50:48.560 --> 1:50:51.720 a hear a ring at the door. There, A ring 1:50:51.840 --> 1:50:54.519 is our food here? I think our foods here. He 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:56.559 liked he and I love how I and Ninco rocked 1:50:56.600 --> 1:51:00.720 the the turned up bill. Yeah, the bill. I'm more 1:51:00.720 --> 1:51:03.519 slared to him than Ninco, though, well, Steve's been doing 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:06.680 it forever. Nino just started it. Yeah, Ninko copied him. 1:51:06.720 --> 1:51:10.720 Oh it's here the big dog e. 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:14.360 All right, let's see this postcast segment, so we can 1:51:14.400 --> 1:51:16.439 eat this delicious food delivered by. 1:51:16.439 --> 1:51:21.120 Door dash like three slices like Jack explain this segment. 1:51:21.200 --> 1:51:23.479 All right, So we're what we're going to do high 1:51:23.560 --> 1:51:26.439 level Kyler and I will be naming all thirty two 1:51:26.479 --> 1:51:30.519 teams go through one by one. You say the first food, snack, 1:51:31.240 --> 1:51:33.120 edible item that comes to your mind. 1:51:33.520 --> 1:51:36.479 Fuck, we'll do a question. We'll example here. It sounds 1:51:36.520 --> 1:51:38.080 hard to me, and Jack did a test round. Yes, 1:51:38.120 --> 1:51:41.360 it's easy. Yeah, it's not that hard. There you go 1:51:41.800 --> 1:51:42.200 that kind of. 1:51:44.800 --> 1:51:48.400 Anything that's your mind goes to that's emblematic of that team, 1:51:48.439 --> 1:51:48.920 that city. 1:51:49.640 --> 1:51:51.920 We'll let it rip. Are you ready all right? Fastest 1:51:52.000 --> 1:51:53.920 key rapid fire? You want to uh? 1:51:54.200 --> 1:51:54.479 Okay? 1:51:54.560 --> 1:52:03.000 Yeah, a FC East, Bill's Wings, Dolphins, Tuna. 1:52:01.920 --> 1:52:05.360 Patriots, Chowder, Jets, Italian. 1:52:05.920 --> 1:52:09.639 Okay, go to the a FC North Ravens, Crab Cakes, 1:52:10.400 --> 1:52:15.559 Good One, Bengals, Skyline, Chili, Brown gold Star Guy, honestly, 1:52:16.800 --> 1:52:19.719 Brown's Rock Kneys, not dog food. 1:52:21.320 --> 1:52:24.200 Stillers, Pardini's Brothers. What are those? Sam? 1:52:25.320 --> 1:52:29.000 Yeah, I went there once, so good old teammate of 1:52:29.040 --> 1:52:31.800 mind at ken State, Drager used to talk about it 1:52:31.800 --> 1:52:32.800 all goddamn time. 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:34.840 Keep going a little overrated. 1:52:35.520 --> 1:52:41.800 A FC South Texans, Wing Ribs, Ribs, Colts, uh sant 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:45.800 Elmo's freaking little uh shrimp cocktail that makes you want 1:52:45.800 --> 1:52:47.280 to throw up because it has a lot of shit 1:52:47.320 --> 1:52:47.479 in it. 1:52:48.320 --> 1:52:51.040 Horse shrimp cocktails, shrimp cocktails. 1:52:50.600 --> 1:52:56.200 The Jaguars, Jags Uh Applebee's. 1:52:56.720 --> 1:52:59.880 We were thinking of Don and Jacksonville Baby, Hey, that's 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:04.320 what I thought. Titans Barbecue, Nashville Hot chicken s. 1:53:04.360 --> 1:53:06.799 Yeah, I never I don't know Nashville that well, Barbie 1:53:06.880 --> 1:53:09.479 never really been, but you always get those Nashville Hot 1:53:09.560 --> 1:53:10.320 chicken sandwiches. 1:53:10.400 --> 1:53:13.200 Yeah, they have that. What Dave's over here chicken. 1:53:13.400 --> 1:53:17.960 Is in Nashville style. I think so and BBQ allright, 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:18.639 keep going. 1:53:18.840 --> 1:53:21.960 I do like a Memphis style barbecue. You know. Drake 1:53:22.040 --> 1:53:26.240 is an investor in Dave's. Drake Davis Okay. 1:53:26.040 --> 1:53:35.480 AFC West Broncos Denver, Denver, The Rocky Mountain, Oyster Breakfast Burrito. 1:53:35.760 --> 1:53:37.840 Chiefs, Kansas City. 1:53:38.040 --> 1:53:40.640 They have really good like barbecue too, it's that's what 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:42.200 I think of them. 1:53:43.160 --> 1:53:46.760 Yeah, Lewis rib Yeah, styles of barbecue. 1:53:46.680 --> 1:53:51.040 Yea, the Raider Steakhouse, Like I feel like I'm in Vegas, 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:55.800 Oakland Chargers. You know in Oakland there'd be some like 1:53:55.880 --> 1:53:58.080 Steve Korean or ship over there. They used to have 1:53:58.120 --> 1:54:00.479 a place in Berkeley that was really good. Loved it 1:54:01.120 --> 1:54:03.240 when I go visit all my friends there, Curti. 1:54:03.680 --> 1:54:07.160 Chargers, l A. I'm going with the little. 1:54:08.560 --> 1:54:12.000 It's like the little squeal of tacos, little pickled tacos 1:54:12.040 --> 1:54:13.000 that have ground beef. 1:54:13.520 --> 1:54:15.599 They are like fried, a burger taco. 1:54:15.880 --> 1:54:18.639 It's like a burger, a ground beef taco, A ground 1:54:18.680 --> 1:54:19.280 beef taco. 1:54:19.320 --> 1:54:21.160 That's what a charger is. I like when you order 1:54:21.200 --> 1:54:24.040 those for the crib. Yeah, they're fire. 1:54:23.040 --> 1:54:27.840 They use they call it the white Boy taco. That's 1:54:27.840 --> 1:54:29.920 what I call it because they use cheddar cheese. They 1:54:29.920 --> 1:54:32.840 don't use like the real ship. It's pretty yeah whatever. 1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:37.000 Hell yeah, Off the East the Cowboys, Dallas, Big d 1:54:37.240 --> 1:54:38.920 just want a big steak, bigtak. 1:54:42.000 --> 1:54:50.440 We can we can amend dancers, Jerry. That's yeah. New 1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:51.280 York Giants. 1:54:51.960 --> 1:54:54.280 I was gonna go a whole pizza, but they're a 1:54:54.320 --> 1:54:55.640 slice of pizza. 1:54:55.440 --> 1:54:59.040 Slice of pizza. The Eagles Philadelphia. We already said, it's 1:54:59.120 --> 1:55:05.440 cheese steaks easy, the Commander's commanders, what's something like political bullshit? 1:55:05.480 --> 1:55:07.440 They got the Mumbo sauce over there, they got the 1:55:07.480 --> 1:55:08.360 Ben's Chili bowl. 1:55:09.400 --> 1:55:11.120 I don't I don't know DC that well. 1:55:11.920 --> 1:55:15.920 I had a bunch of friends from college that were 1:55:15.920 --> 1:55:18.920 from DC area, but I don't know. And the go go, 1:55:19.360 --> 1:55:22.200 I know the go go. But for food, this is 1:55:22.240 --> 1:55:25.960 esppecially rapid release or rapid fire. First thing that comes 1:55:26.000 --> 1:55:28.480 to your mind, where is that one spot? Wasn't there 1:55:28.560 --> 1:55:31.800 something in one of those political shows. 1:55:32.400 --> 1:55:35.560 Freddy's Barbecue. I don't know if that's really well, I 1:55:35.600 --> 1:55:36.240 don't think it is. 1:55:36.880 --> 1:55:41.320 If if the Crabcakes or Baltimore d C's like real 1:55:41.400 --> 1:55:45.600 crabcake ish, it's real close. So they probably have good crabcakes. 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:47.000 So they have like the little ones. 1:55:47.160 --> 1:55:48.840 Okay, d C crab Cakes. 1:55:49.120 --> 1:55:51.360 D catch some smoke for that, that's okay. 1:55:51.520 --> 1:55:53.600 The Bears they'll get so mad about that. Hey we're 1:55:53.640 --> 1:55:58.760 going bareland fucking Oh my god, what you're talking about? Bullshit? 1:55:58.960 --> 1:56:01.520 Hey we know, Cliff baby, it's blue blue crab. 1:56:01.560 --> 1:56:04.280 I believe right, because where I'm from over in the 1:56:04.720 --> 1:56:07.040 you know, little dungeness, dungeness. 1:56:06.480 --> 1:56:09.600 A little sweeter, smaller, the sweeter. 1:56:10.480 --> 1:56:16.360 The Bears deep dish, but they're not actually deep dishes, 1:56:16.440 --> 1:56:18.200 like tough type pizza there. 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:19.880 They can't run the ball. 1:56:20.760 --> 1:56:22.560 Different style Chicago pizza. 1:56:22.880 --> 1:56:25.720 They're the bar the thin cracker style, the bar cracker. 1:56:25.920 --> 1:56:28.839 That's what the Bears are right now. It's good pizza, 1:56:29.840 --> 1:56:30.760 but it ain't deep dish. 1:56:30.840 --> 1:56:32.200 How about the Lions. 1:56:32.600 --> 1:56:35.920 Lions, They're a fucking double cheeseburger to me right now, 1:56:36.080 --> 1:56:39.880 double cheeseburger, double cheese packers. 1:56:40.200 --> 1:56:42.760 There is one answer here that's correct. Yeah, cheese. 1:56:43.160 --> 1:56:45.720 It's just like a cheesehead, right, But I want like 1:56:45.760 --> 1:56:52.640 a good Wisconsin white cheddar mm Vikings, Vikings, Dude, I 1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:54.920 went to Minnesota and I had a really good burger 1:56:54.960 --> 1:56:56.440 there at Red Cow. 1:56:56.480 --> 1:56:58.040 I think brought worse too. 1:56:58.040 --> 1:57:01.120 I feel like, oh they got that's what brought. 1:57:01.240 --> 1:57:04.240 Yes, yours just brought. It's a real cast. 1:57:09.160 --> 1:57:10.000 Did you write that? 1:57:10.640 --> 1:57:11.440 Are we still going? 1:57:11.600 --> 1:57:12.160 Yeah? We got. 1:57:14.080 --> 1:57:14.520 In this league? 1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:19.040 By else NFC South Atlanta Falcons, Falcons, Chicken and Waffles. 1:57:19.040 --> 1:57:19.720 Feels played out. 1:57:19.720 --> 1:57:23.680 It feels like two thousand lemon pepper wings magic city, 1:57:23.720 --> 1:57:24.280 we gotta go. 1:57:25.160 --> 1:57:29.600 I've heard it. I heard nothing like the Wings Panthers. 1:57:29.920 --> 1:57:34.320 Did we say lemon pepper here? Yeah, the Panthers's Carolina 1:57:34.360 --> 1:57:37.080 style barbecue. Can you put more mustard and vinegar? 1:57:37.320 --> 1:57:37.360 No? 1:57:37.480 --> 1:57:42.360 I was thinking more like a sardine. I like that. 1:57:42.360 --> 1:57:45.800 That's and sardines. 1:57:45.880 --> 1:57:49.800 I'm sorry for the fans that that support that organization. 1:57:50.680 --> 1:57:52.200 I don't even mean you mean. 1:57:53.800 --> 1:57:58.560 Some people love sardines. A little salty for me, New Orleans, 1:57:58.560 --> 1:58:00.040 give me some Cajun chicken. 1:57:59.840 --> 1:58:03.560 Or some Casun down. Give me some coach o, you know, 1:58:03.840 --> 1:58:10.120 some gumbo gumbo. No, some crawfish. Crawfish Ridley he had 1:58:10.160 --> 1:58:14.480 this dude. He was lsu. He had drive. The same 1:58:14.600 --> 1:58:14.960 day of. 1:58:14.960 --> 1:58:19.839 Catching the crawfish, we did crawfish bake up in New England. 1:58:19.840 --> 1:58:22.920 This guy came from early in the day, caught the fish, 1:58:23.000 --> 1:58:27.200 brought his whole fucking boiling thing, towed it up. We 1:58:27.240 --> 1:58:30.840 had like a crawfish bake. Whoa at the like on a. 1:58:31.120 --> 1:58:31.919 It was a Friday. 1:58:32.240 --> 1:58:34.400 It was awesome, like the whole dump thing. 1:58:35.000 --> 1:58:37.200 Yeah you dump it. He brought tables. I mean he 1:58:37.240 --> 1:58:40.720 brought the whole kitten kaboodle. It was so spicy. I 1:58:40.760 --> 1:58:42.720 mean the corn was great, but like I couldn't eat 1:58:42.800 --> 1:58:45.640 for like I had to drink milk for twenty minutes after. 1:58:46.080 --> 1:58:48.200 It was fucking spicy. When I was little. 1:58:48.240 --> 1:58:50.760 There you do all the work for a little piece 1:58:50.800 --> 1:58:52.720 of It's just not my style. 1:58:52.760 --> 1:58:54.760 I'm with you. And you can only eat so many potatoes. 1:58:54.800 --> 1:58:55.040 I liked. 1:58:55.080 --> 1:58:57.200 I liked the the what did they put They put. 1:58:57.000 --> 1:59:00.800 Sausage in there and dewey, Yeah, you get the sausage 1:59:00.800 --> 1:59:01.120 in there. 1:59:01.440 --> 1:59:03.760 I can't wait for the super Bowl. It's so spicy. 1:59:03.800 --> 1:59:07.440 It's really good, really good, But you can't like it 1:59:07.720 --> 1:59:08.720 takes you hours. 1:59:09.040 --> 1:59:11.640 You gotta start playing a proper i'member. I've done like 1:59:11.680 --> 1:59:14.080 a cross, like a like a low country boiled, but 1:59:14.120 --> 1:59:15.560 never like and I don't know how to do it 1:59:15.640 --> 1:59:18.480 like that. Like the guys that live there, like rid 1:59:18.560 --> 1:59:19.400 and all the guys. 1:59:19.160 --> 1:59:21.600 Are sucking it things. They are like this, I'm over 1:59:21.600 --> 1:59:23.880 here to fucking dissect it or something. For five minutes, 1:59:23.920 --> 1:59:25.280 It's like, what is this meat? 1:59:26.360 --> 1:59:27.720 Is this meat? I don't know if I need a 1:59:27.760 --> 1:59:29.240 hammer my hands, like what, I don't know what to 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:31.880 do a little crack snap and go. I know, I 1:59:31.960 --> 1:59:34.920 know it's the crack snap and go. But it's fucking hard. 1:59:35.080 --> 1:59:36.880 Yeah, I mean, you know, I tip my cap to 1:59:36.920 --> 1:59:40.880 all those people that can just go through. Maybe like 1:59:40.920 --> 1:59:43.480 they go through like fifty they'll eat like fifty of 1:59:43.480 --> 1:59:45.800 those things. No, they probably like one hundred. They sit 1:59:46.280 --> 1:59:49.360 all day like Rid was there. Just a lot of 1:59:49.400 --> 1:59:52.560 the Louisiana guys are on the team just for an hour. 1:59:53.280 --> 1:59:55.680 You don't get full though. Yeah, it's because it's such 1:59:55.760 --> 1:59:58.720 little bites. Yeah, it's crazy. Alright, what's our next? Tampa 1:59:58.760 --> 1:59:59.879 Bay Bucketeer, Tampa. 2:00:00.960 --> 2:00:06.120 I don't know. Chili's sounds right, I don't know. I 2:00:06.120 --> 2:00:06.760 don't know, Tampa. 2:00:06.800 --> 2:00:10.800 I heard beautiful place, Grudens because you got a steakhouse. 2:00:12.040 --> 2:00:14.080 I think you post where we're eating. 2:00:14.080 --> 2:00:16.840 We're reading at Gruden's house and we're talking like icy 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:19.480 football were icy Icy? 2:00:19.680 --> 2:00:22.000 Oh my god, got me Arizona. 2:00:22.640 --> 2:00:25.160 I always try to whenever I'm in because I when 2:00:25.200 --> 2:00:29.680 I lived in Boston. Anytime I'm in a state that 2:00:29.840 --> 2:00:33.960 has any kind of Mexican population, I'm I'm sniffing out. 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:37.560 I'm trying to. I'm on a search like National Treasure 2:00:37.680 --> 2:00:40.520 for like the mom and pop Mexican joint. 2:00:40.880 --> 2:00:41.600 That's what I want. 2:00:42.120 --> 2:00:45.680 Pop Mexican mom and pop Mexican joint rams. I like 2:00:45.760 --> 2:00:51.640 some enchiladas Enchiladas, like some Enchilado's, Bang Bang Niner Gang 2:00:51.880 --> 2:00:57.760 sour dough Baby, the San Francisco treat rice seahawks. He's 2:00:57.800 --> 2:01:04.240 just a nice big fish, catching, throwing, eating. But I 2:01:04.240 --> 2:01:06.880 would want that fish like a beautiful whatever fish they 2:01:07.400 --> 2:01:11.320 the specialty fishes. I just want a little salt and pepper, 2:01:12.200 --> 2:01:15.680 some lemon juice, olive oil around that bad boy. Then 2:01:15.760 --> 2:01:18.560 pack it in salt, and then you fucking bake that 2:01:18.600 --> 2:01:23.360 bad boy. Yes, shout out ken Orangers. We're talking little 2:01:23.560 --> 2:01:24.960 it used to be with like a brand Zeno. But 2:01:25.000 --> 2:01:27.160 I know they got some nice fresh fish over in 2:01:27.200 --> 2:01:28.520 the Northwest. 2:01:28.240 --> 2:01:31.120 Recently tossed salmon. What does that mean? 2:01:33.600 --> 2:01:36.080 Those are pretty hard to catch there, like some given 2:01:36.200 --> 2:01:38.280 to it. I wonder I gotta go try it. I 2:01:38.280 --> 2:01:39.560 want to go try it, but I want to train 2:01:39.640 --> 2:01:41.440 for it. I want to go out there looking like 2:01:41.160 --> 2:01:45.120 a like a slap dick at your gloves. No, no gloves, 2:01:45.120 --> 2:01:46.720 but you gotta like I think it's you gotta bring 2:01:46.720 --> 2:01:48.000 it in. You gotta watch that bitch in. 2:01:48.640 --> 2:01:54.720 And then came Chancell will pop out and you. 2:01:54.720 --> 2:01:56.839 Oh my gosh. Oh, thanks DoorDash. 2:01:58.080 --> 2:01:58.560 That was fun. 2:01:58.600 --> 2:02:04.920 Let's go eat that food. Well, what a game. Thanks 2:02:04.920 --> 2:02:07.720 again to Steve Smith Senior. You gotta get out there 2:02:07.720 --> 2:02:08.520 and play some golf with him. 2:02:08.880 --> 2:02:12.280 No, I fucking I would love to play golf with him. Actually, 2:02:12.400 --> 2:02:14.000 it made me think about golf in a different way. 2:02:14.480 --> 2:02:17.400 Very very connected to that, very connected to that. Let 2:02:17.440 --> 2:02:18.240 your mind just go. 2:02:19.000 --> 2:02:21.720 You know you're out there, You're out team. Don't bother me. 2:02:22.040 --> 2:02:23.400 Don't don't bother me. 2:02:23.680 --> 2:02:27.480 That's been another episode of Games with Names, presented by 2:02:27.640 --> 2:02:30.240 Door Dash, Door Dash. 2:02:30.080 --> 2:02:31.280 Your Door two more. 2:02:31.840 --> 2:02:36.560 Download the door Dash app now to order your game 2:02:36.680 --> 2:02:42.040 day favorites. 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