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Speaker 1: didn't respect you. But if I didn't respect you, that
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Speaker 1: have no regards of each other's career. So guess what,
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Speaker 2: The head's different. You know, you knock someone out, that's
Speaker 2: that's considered a kiss. You taking out knees, that's considered
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I got to the point where guys knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, if you hit me low again
Speaker 1: or you cheap shot man, I got one question for you.
Speaker 1: When I cut you and they gotta do surgery, my
Speaker 1: question is what kind of flowers you want me to
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Speaker 7: January tenth, two thousand and four, Edward Jones, don't Saint Louis, Missouri.
Speaker 2: The Panthers Rams are tied twenty three to twenty three,
Speaker 2: heading into.
Speaker 7: A double overtime third and forty Dell home jobs back.
Speaker 7: He's got Smith streaking down the field on the next clown.
Speaker 3: This is next clown game. Why are you talk about that? Boys?
Speaker 4: My dog? Do you do?
Speaker 2: Welcome to games with names today, we are looking at
Speaker 2: the two thousand and three NFC Divisional round game between
Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Rams with legendary Steve Smith.
Speaker 4: Steve Smith in one sentence, why did you pick this game?
Speaker 3: You guys? That was the only game you guys gave me?
Speaker 4: Is this the only game? Is this the only game
Speaker 4: we gave? I recommended this one hard man. I love
Speaker 4: this game.
Speaker 8: Jackson from North Carolina. This is when he was watching football.
Speaker 8: He was, if we don't do this game, he's gonna
Speaker 8: I'm not complaining, But you asked me, so I was.
Speaker 8: I appreciate you. You agree with Steve. I give him thumbs up.
Speaker 2: So in one sentence, why is this game so impactful
Speaker 2: in your career?
Speaker 3: Again? Because this is the only game you guys gave me?
Speaker 4: The two throw interesting. I have to talk to the
Speaker 4: people in the back. I'll just stop.
Speaker 1: See this is see when I do this, this is
Speaker 1: when people get irritated with me.
Speaker 4: He's he's such a.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I because of my personality or like how
Speaker 1: people feel. They kind of think prankster is more of
Speaker 1: like a it's kind of a hole, but I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a goofball goofball?
Speaker 3: Yeah really at the house, I.
Speaker 4: Can see that. Is this the greatest game of all time? Though?
Speaker 1: I think for the Panthers. For us, yeah, one, because
Speaker 1: we won the game and we've obviously you know. Several
Speaker 1: weeks later, we played New England, Patriots and and and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But it was really cool one because
Speaker 1: of this game. You know how football is, you know
Speaker 1: how practice goes. There's so many nuances, there's so many
Speaker 1: little small detail things that happen and don't happen. And
Speaker 1: we had practiced the play is called X clown. We
Speaker 1: practiced that play so many times and me and Jay
Speaker 1: could not get on the same page.
Speaker 3: I run it this way, he threw it that way.
Speaker 3: He threw it this way.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't run it that way, and it just just seemed.
Speaker 3: Like it was not gonna work. And then when they
Speaker 3: called it a game, it worked twice.
Speaker 2: You guys hit it twice now the X clown. So
Speaker 2: there's verbiage, probably for the protection and there's something else
Speaker 2: or does that tell everyone what to do?
Speaker 3: So this is where ball is.
Speaker 1: This is the part where some people don't like that
Speaker 1: I actually know ball. You know, they kind of think
Speaker 1: that I don't know ball. And people always talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, especially with my stuff, they always talk about
Speaker 1: Steve just he just talks.
Speaker 3: And the offense we were running that year was Dan Henney.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a tree from him.
Speaker 1: That tree is from Charlie Weiss, which means we had
Speaker 1: maybe if these words sound familiar to you, ol A
Speaker 1: recircle Max delly.
Speaker 4: XQ Yeah, olay is that out with the flag? Yes?
Speaker 2: Two man concept too many concepts of X clown's backside
Speaker 2: telling the X what to do, but there was probably
Speaker 2: something in front telling the other guys what to do.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And then we had like toga they called it ten
Speaker 2: ten two ends, two ends.
Speaker 4: We had topper topper two posts. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that was That was the offense.
Speaker 1: And you know I had to learn how to play
Speaker 1: receiver in a way that I just really didn't know
Speaker 1: how to play receiver at that time, you know, going
Speaker 1: to Utah, I was I was actually in college, Dunior college.
Speaker 3: I was a Z originally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well my wide receivers coach in college switched me to
Speaker 1: AX because I'm right handed, but I'm left hand dominant.
Speaker 1: So I would be at Z with the ball in
Speaker 1: my left hand and I was stiff on my right right. Well,
Speaker 1: they come and just poke it out, so they moved
Speaker 1: me to X. And that's how I became an.
Speaker 4: Axe because of how you handled the ball.
Speaker 3: Because I high handled the ball.
Speaker 2: Bro not only did carry the ball in my left
Speaker 2: arm because I was a four back, everything left left.
Speaker 2: I was the same way because I was in Pop Warner.
Speaker 2: I was the four back and a wishbone offense, and
Speaker 2: I always ran left, and so you always kept it
Speaker 2: on the outside, and so I would always, even to
Speaker 2: this day that my most comfortable side was my left
Speaker 2: side holding the ball, which is very unorthodox for right
Speaker 2: handed guys.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: So you turned into an X in college because your
Speaker 2: right hand, you're better with the ball in your left,
Speaker 2: so you give the stiffy And in this point in
Speaker 2: your career, you were still kind of feeling your feeling
Speaker 2: on how to learn how to play receiver in this offense,
Speaker 2: that Charlie Weis's style offense.
Speaker 4: So is this clown route? Is it like a bow post?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so, because you inside released and then you
Speaker 2: stemmed up and then you hit them with the outside with.
Speaker 3: The couple because it was it was it was it
Speaker 3: was built off Q.
Speaker 4: You was just a bow.
Speaker 1: Yes, So it was built off the Q because I
Speaker 1: ran it so well, Yeah, stem inside.
Speaker 4: Get vertical, get vertical, go to the corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll stem inside and I just went but
Speaker 1: I I ran out on and I leaned, but the
Speaker 1: reason I leaned to make him think it was going
Speaker 1: a shitty bow. Yes, but it was also the lean
Speaker 1: was to put my foot in the ground to yes, sir.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: People people don't realize you were primarily an X like.
Speaker 2: People try to put you in like categories where you
Speaker 2: were No. Steve Smith was the most you're probably the
Speaker 2: most dominant X in my eyes of all time under
Speaker 2: six foot like you like and you, but you didn't
Speaker 2: play like you were. It was fucking amazing to me
Speaker 2: to watch you play. When you could run by people,
Speaker 2: you could run the routes that I ran and I
Speaker 2: specialized in, but you could win on a go route.
Speaker 2: You could stack a guy, run away from a guy,
Speaker 2: and you were so dynamic with the ball and strong
Speaker 2: bottom legs like you never got down like and you like.
Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy that it all stemmed back to the
Speaker 2: coach in college.
Speaker 4: I say, hey, you only hold it in your left
Speaker 4: I think we got to put you at X.
Speaker 3: It was it was a problems.
Speaker 1: There was a problem, man my But the guy that
Speaker 1: that that coached me recruited me out of San Monica
Speaker 1: Community College.
Speaker 4: Right down the road. I run there, Yeah, it's ship.
Speaker 1: Now your turf, yeah, Fred Graves. Yeah, at University of Utah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he was like, man, we gotta put you as
Speaker 1: we gotta put you at OX.
Speaker 3: This is working. You're giving up the football.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, man, that's crazy. So
Speaker 2: you went to Santa Monica Junior College.
Speaker 4: How like, how I know you? You talk about it
Speaker 4: all the time, but you and Ocho? Is he Ocho?
Speaker 4: Or is he Chad?
Speaker 3: He was He's always been Chad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys went to the same juco. Now did
Speaker 2: you guys take pride in who talked ship the craziest
Speaker 2: at that time? I just gotta I can only imagine
Speaker 2: you two in the same fucking huddle at that time.
Speaker 3: We we didn't like each other.
Speaker 4: I can see that because he.
Speaker 1: Was from the South and I was Cali, and so
Speaker 1: he had he had got He was a bounce back,
Speaker 1: so he had got in trouble. So his grandmother had
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, goes live with your mom in California.
Speaker 1: So it was you know, you know how it is
Speaker 1: when you go with when you're playing on new teams
Speaker 1: or you're playing on a new team, that your old
Speaker 1: team and that old that that guy would always say man,
Speaker 1: when we were at this team, we did this, and
Speaker 1: I used to be like, we'll go back there then, bro,
Speaker 1: we don't want you here, you know.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They were like, well, we ran this, and you know
Speaker 1: we were here and you know, and I was a
Speaker 1: guy zero filter zero, and I would say what everybody
Speaker 1: was thinking out loud.
Speaker 3: You'll be like, won't you go back there then?
Speaker 1: But you can't cause you know, and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: just go back there, and it was the awkward silence.
Speaker 3: But and what's funny about that is my wife.
Speaker 2: Says, she goes, what what are you thinking when you
Speaker 2: say stuff like that?
Speaker 3: And she asked me that and I paused and I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably problem. I don't I don't think. I
Speaker 4: just go yeah, I understand. I used to.
Speaker 2: I do that a lot. I've had to control it
Speaker 2: a little more, but I was as a kid. I
Speaker 2: do that a lot, unfiltered.
Speaker 3: I was adult.
Speaker 4: The crazy thing is you don't never turn it off. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you have gotten better, bro, it's now.
Speaker 3: It's like it throws people off because they're like, who's
Speaker 3: this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or I've gotten a question, are you under anything? Are
Speaker 1: you Ron just chilling under the influence of something like
Speaker 1: what gay smoking that dough?
Speaker 4: What? Why are you saying? I'm like, I just kind
Speaker 4: of chill.
Speaker 1: I've I've kind of learned and getting better with just
Speaker 1: being okay, with being okay, like just like.
Speaker 3: What you hey, what you're doing today?
Speaker 4: Nothing, that's about it? Small talk. I get it. I'm
Speaker 4: not I get it. I get it. What's life looking
Speaker 4: like these days?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Playing golf? Yeah? And you got your show on YouTube
Speaker 4: ironed out?
Speaker 2: Ye? Yeah, yeah, she's fire. I'm waiting for my invite.
Speaker 2: I gotta get my golf game better before I go
Speaker 2: suck it off.
Speaker 4: And we played twenty seventh. I pause. We played twenty
Speaker 4: seven the other day. Bro, whoa whoa? Hold, she was
Speaker 4: just gonna say that and just let that go. That's
Speaker 4: something Bill always used to say.
Speaker 2: You just say, oh, he fucking assholes sucked off this
Speaker 2: goddamn drive like he would say, ship like that.
Speaker 3: Bro, So we gotta let's let's take a sidetrack.
Speaker 4: Sidetrack from golf.
Speaker 3: Do you know how close I was? I? Do you
Speaker 3: know the story?
Speaker 2: I remember you may have told me, but I forgot
Speaker 2: the story. Explain the story, all right? What we are talking.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, I was, Uh, my agent had worked
Speaker 1: out a trade to go to New England, and Dave
Speaker 1: Gottimo was the general manager, and he gave me permission
Speaker 1: to talk to the sam Sitisco forty nine ers. But
Speaker 1: my agent had worked out a deal for me to
Speaker 1: go up there. I was with under Armour. Under Armour
Speaker 1: was starting to make my cleats for the Patriots Colors.
Speaker 1: And that year a former teammate of mine was on
Speaker 1: the team, a couple of months before Damian Lewis d
Speaker 1: lou He was on the team, and so he already
Speaker 1: had gave me information on where to stay.
Speaker 3: And man, you're talking about bags packed ready, one foot in,
Speaker 3: one foot out.
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 1: Trade didn't go through because they gave me permission to
Speaker 1: talk to the sam six forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And at that time I did not want to go
Speaker 1: to the Samitixco for my wife was pregnant with Deuce,
Speaker 1: my my our youngest, and I was, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to find all that.
Speaker 4: And so what year was that?
Speaker 3: Great question?
Speaker 4: Was it thirteen twelve, thirteen twenty twelve? And so you
Speaker 4: would have came in thirteen.
Speaker 1: Now I was coming a year of twenty twelve. Twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: I was yeah October, and then off season came and
Speaker 1: you were a visit. You went on a visit to Baltimore. Oh,
Speaker 1: three days before I went.
Speaker 4: I was about to go on a visit to Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't go.
Speaker 4: I didn't go because you got it.
Speaker 2: Oh and I didn't get my trip to New England
Speaker 2: because then I signed back.
Speaker 3: So it's your fault. Okay, Cool, we've established that I
Speaker 3: went to the Niners.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 2: No, it sounds like you just admit it with four
Speaker 2: cameras that it's your fault.
Speaker 3: Sounds like it can't blame You can't blame it on
Speaker 3: the black guy this time.
Speaker 2: You know, I had to overcome a lot of things
Speaker 2: and that I overcame though. You know how I got
Speaker 2: my opportunity. Gronk had to break his back, tragic, Danny
Speaker 2: had to tear both his groins, and one of our
Speaker 2: teammates had to go on a killing spree.
Speaker 4: So there is no one else to That was.
Speaker 2: Very insensitive, bro, whatever that was. I was just trying
Speaker 2: to be you know, that was kind of filter. But
Speaker 2: I didn't use his name. We all know, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: It's true the truth billboards right now. No, the actor
Speaker 2: is on billboards. That's sad we talk about that.
Speaker 3: How was he in the locker room crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like one of those guys that you thought was
Speaker 2: a wankster, like he acted a wankster, like, he acted tough,
Speaker 2: but no one took him seriously. Little did we know?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was it was gnarly bro. But that's how
Speaker 2: I got my opportunity. So I'm going to give it
Speaker 2: up for no one after that. Yeah, back to golf,
Speaker 2: So what's with this golf? This golf show?
Speaker 1: So I started doing some counseling just because like trying
Speaker 1: to figure out like, man, you know, forty five years old,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously grew up here. I grew up one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six in Avalon. So just saw you know,
Speaker 1: scene and saw a lot of things that probably a ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: sixteen year old probably need some help processing. And then
Speaker 1: I just started to realize, like, you know, when you
Speaker 1: retire with doing something that you I've been doing since
Speaker 1: I was in the third grade down to when I'm
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old, like just to shut that off
Speaker 1: as if it never happened. It's kind of different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, how do I grieve? Like,
Speaker 1: how do I figure out? How do I grieve well
Speaker 1: in a healthy way. We, you know, we were in COVID,
Speaker 1: ended up selling. We sold our house because my daughter,
Speaker 1: my son, they were all gone. It was just me,
Speaker 1: my wife, dog, and our two boys in this house
Speaker 1: in like half of the house.
Speaker 3: We had a basement.
Speaker 1: Half of the house we didn't even turn on and so,
Speaker 1: you know, like everything else, this guy was falling COVID
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, there's a great opportunity to sell.
Speaker 1: So we sold and downsized. But what was crazy is
Speaker 1: in downsize and I had to pack up all my
Speaker 1: stuff and bro I like for the family, it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with all this stuff?
Speaker 3: You know, the.
Speaker 1: Helmets, the balls, the leeks, and that's cute, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't fit in the in the new house.
Speaker 1: So what you're gonna do with it? And I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that. It was like, oh, I gotta throw this
Speaker 1: stuff away. But this stuff when I was starting to
Speaker 1: pack it up, meant, oh, this is my touchdown passed
Speaker 1: back in you know, back in forty four, you know,
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three and two thousand and
Speaker 1: five and twenty thirteen, and I still had my shoulder pass,
Speaker 1: my only pair of shoulder pass I ever wore my
Speaker 1: whole career, and then some gloves and then some under
Speaker 1: armour cleats and then this and that, and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool, find a place for I was packing up
Speaker 1: my stuff, trying to decide on what's important and what
Speaker 1: is discard. Bro, I started crying.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I started realizing like bro, yeah, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll never ever play again. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: well not me. My wife is like, yeah, this is normal.
Speaker 1: And so I started to like start to realize that, like, man,
Speaker 1: I got some stuff in there that's really holding me
Speaker 1: back that I've been holding on to that I didn't
Speaker 1: didn't know I was holding on to, and just how
Speaker 1: it's affected me. And so in those sessions as I've
Speaker 1: been doing it, and I'm huge on mental health just
Speaker 1: because I've learned, like you know, in COVID, there are
Speaker 1: some things like you learned about yourself, you learned about
Speaker 1: other people, and so I just because like you know what,
Speaker 1: I just need to unload some of this stuff that
Speaker 1: I'm carrying.
Speaker 3: And when I.
Speaker 4: Started to realize.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I'm I'm kind of fucked up,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't normal.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be this way. I shouldn't be angry all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be concerned that the dude that's mowing the
Speaker 1: grass he's maybe trying to steal from me and he's
Speaker 1: been on the grass for a house for like the
Speaker 1: last eight years. Or I would like see people that
Speaker 1: I knew and like I didn't talk to him, and
Speaker 1: so so I started doing that stuff.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: In my last session, probably about February last February was
Speaker 1: it twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three. And then in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, right before the Super Bowl in Vegas,
Speaker 1: my counselor said, Yo, what do you do for you?
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you know, like the vacation, hangout
Speaker 1: to kid, No, no, no, what do you do for you?
Speaker 1: And it was a great question that I didn't have
Speaker 1: an answer to, and I didn't I don't really know
Speaker 1: how to chill, and so I started kind of through
Speaker 1: the PA. At golf Tech, you can get like six
Speaker 1: months of like once a week, four times a month,
Speaker 1: you can get at golf Tech, you can get a
Speaker 1: free membership. And so about three months saying I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: and the guy's like, man, do you want to continue
Speaker 1: to do this because your membership is going to be up,
Speaker 1: you know, and you're actually getting pretty good.
Speaker 4: What do you think? And I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I think I want to do it.
Speaker 1: And so started playing and that's when the bug hit
Speaker 1: me and I realized like, oh, man, like this is
Speaker 1: something that this is not the football player. It's not
Speaker 1: the dad, that's not the husband. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: this is Steve, and I like it. And then my
Speaker 1: boys it was like poplis go play all right.
Speaker 3: But even on the course, I.
Speaker 1: Was still a little edgy, a little bit like you know,
Speaker 1: pace of play. When you pace play wasn't up. It
Speaker 1: was kind of like hey, hey, hey guys, let's let's
Speaker 1: keep it going. Let's let's hurry up. And then it's
Speaker 1: just kind of like okay, ease. And then I just
Speaker 1: I like playing, but I didn't love playing. I like
Speaker 1: playing golf now. Man, it's like like it's it's my
Speaker 1: wu saw Like I'm out on a golf course, good
Speaker 1: badd and different.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: One of the one of.
Speaker 1: The agreements that I have with myself on the golf course.
Speaker 1: Is I don't rush. If I'm rushing on the golf course,
Speaker 1: I don't play. Now I go to driving range. But
Speaker 1: on the golf course, if I'm playing eighteen, I'm playing eighteen.
Speaker 1: If I play nine, I'm playing nine. I'm not playing
Speaker 1: six out of the nine. I'm not playing ten out
Speaker 1: of the eighteen. I'm playing eighteen. And man, I and
Speaker 1: when I go play eighteen, bro, I got me some
Speaker 1: snacks and crustaballs, water, drink kterade, whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: I just chill. Now I'm gonna have me a fresh
Speaker 1: pair of kicks on sock sures. It don't matter, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. And so we're going on vacation, and
Speaker 1: the wife should be like, hey, we're going to hear
Speaker 1: here and questions. It used to be is there golf
Speaker 1: course a golf course plumb, yes, golf course. And now
Speaker 1: so now on the family vacation, it be my three boys.
Speaker 1: We'll go play golf and then I'll get my wife
Speaker 1: and my daughter they'll get the massage.
Speaker 2: It sounds to me you found another outlet to compete
Speaker 2: in and compete with yourself and give you that kind
Speaker 2: of like you're investing something where you can see result
Speaker 2: and you you've got you've got a chance to go
Speaker 2: out and feel like you're you're competing. No, man, when
Speaker 2: I'm on a golf course, bro, even if you're not
Speaker 2: doing that, but you're you're taking those mental reps and
Speaker 2: those No.
Speaker 1: For me, what playing on a golf course is actually
Speaker 1: relaxing in regards of I'm not playing against you, and
Speaker 1: it's the dang course, Like the course is beat me up,
Speaker 1: and it's actually the only place that I kind of tiptoe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I get a sandtrap, I'm like, oh my, I'm
Speaker 1: scared because man, we could be here for four hits.
Speaker 4: Or you know, or we're gonna hit that. You know,
Speaker 4: we're gonna you know.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna take that stroke. I'll walk up to
Speaker 2: the sand trap like, oh, you're.
Speaker 4: Gonna be cool. Two inches behind, open the stands, open
Speaker 4: the face.
Speaker 1: I just so like for me, man, I just I
Speaker 1: enjoy I enjoy the piece and quiet. It's why I
Speaker 1: discover why I love country music. Yeah, so I'll be
Speaker 1: bumping some country music.
Speaker 3: My boys are like, who is this dude?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I was out earlier this week I was out at
Speaker 2: the driving range. I go this place in the valley
Speaker 2: because they have grass. You hit off the grass. And
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and there's this there's this older dude
Speaker 2: got a lawn chair and he goes and he takes
Speaker 2: about eight balls and he chips a couple of balls
Speaker 2: and then he comes back and then he sits in
Speaker 2: his line chair and you hear him on the phone
Speaker 2: for a second, and then goes back and he chips
Speaker 2: like eight more like little chips. And this is a
Speaker 2: huge ass driving range. Like I just got chipped right here.
Speaker 2: I was like whatever. He comes over and he's going
Speaker 2: to get a new new basket of balls. He goes,
Speaker 2: hey baby, you need you need a basket. I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's fucking Smokey Robinson. Smoking Robbinson brought a lawn chair
Speaker 2: to this fucking this driving rage and he just sits
Speaker 2: there and he's hitting chips. And I was like having
Speaker 2: a rough day, and I went out to the driving
Speaker 2: range to just kind of like chill and it made
Speaker 2: my day. Like smoke your Obbinson. Just he's like, hey baby,
Speaker 2: you need you need a basket of balls. I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 2: go you smoking Robinson.
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, what's up, baby, I go, I met
Speaker 4: you at the client you know, so that I met
Speaker 4: him before.
Speaker 2: He had no clue or anything, but it was so
Speaker 2: fucking cool, and it's such an outlet I use as
Speaker 2: an outlet as well. For me, it's to compete with
Speaker 2: myself and try to put something into something like I
Speaker 2: did when I was playing, and be able to see
Speaker 2: some kind of result that's positive in my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so somewhat. You know my wife.
Speaker 1: Again, if she sees it, she'll say, uh, just stay
Speaker 1: in the shallow pool.
Speaker 4: Stand in the shallow pool.
Speaker 3: You go too deep. But for me, golf is not
Speaker 3: an outlet in there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm playing golf and it's a time where
Speaker 1: like it's uh, it's it's where I'm learning life, where
Speaker 1: think about this. Or we playing nine holes, right and
Speaker 1: you hit a Generally you either hit a good or
Speaker 1: bad shot on the first hole and it sets the tone.
Speaker 1: But it's somewhere in the middle you don't play very good.
Speaker 1: So let's say whole three, you hit the whole two,
Speaker 1: you get a par or God bless you, you get a burden.
Speaker 2: Circle boom hoole three or four you hit the ball
Speaker 2: and it goes wide right and you start ye yelling
Speaker 2: and cussing and you're getting upset.
Speaker 4: I used to look at.
Speaker 2: That and I'd be like, man, I don't threw a club.
Speaker 2: I done got mad and I'm going And then it
Speaker 2: hit me it was like, yo, two holes ago when
Speaker 2: you got that birdie, you forgot and now you're complaining
Speaker 2: that you can't find your ball, but you didn't actually
Speaker 2: even appreciate the birdie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like it's a God moment is
Speaker 2: going bro. Sometimes if you can find your ball, you
Speaker 2: just need.
Speaker 3: To be thankful.
Speaker 4: That's my that's how we play.
Speaker 1: But there's so many people who have this expectation that
Speaker 1: you're gonna play even golf and you ain't never played
Speaker 1: even golf in your life. You are twenty two, Yeah
Speaker 1: you are fourteen. I'm a fourteen to nine. I was
Speaker 1: like twenty five. I've getting better and better, But sometimes
Speaker 1: I just like going out there and remember what am
Speaker 1: I doing? Going wrong?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're trying to swing like you're hitting the baseball.
Speaker 1: Oh you're all upper body, and I use are you
Speaker 1: going back? And so it's like golf of me is
Speaker 1: the only time that I'm kind of tiptoeing and it's
Speaker 1: great because it's like hmm and the kids are like, Yo,
Speaker 1: who's this guy?
Speaker 4: This pop?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: So, how is Steve Smith the golfer different than Steve
Speaker 2: Smith the football player?
Speaker 3: That's why is it?
Speaker 4: Do I call you senior?
Speaker 3: I mean I prefer all right, then.
Speaker 1: It don't bother me. I just I'll just mess around.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I quit playing Bro. It's like
Speaker 1: it's too much. It's too much to be angry all
Speaker 1: the time, right, to be miserable.
Speaker 2: That's what I used to call I was in the
Speaker 2: same mindset, Bro. I used to keep going, You're you're
Speaker 2: preaching me, and so I was like, bro, And so
Speaker 2: I was like to go backwards because people will be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know, you miss it.
Speaker 4: Huh nah.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: Like the stuff that I would have to do to
Speaker 3: get up for.
Speaker 1: A football game, like I was. My boy was in
Speaker 1: a car with me. I was he was like I
Speaker 1: was showing him. I was playing all the songs I
Speaker 1: used to listen to before I go out of.
Speaker 4: The pre game ship, pre game pre after I do
Speaker 4: my warm up. What is it?
Speaker 3: It was young Buck.
Speaker 4: Bang? What else was it?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 1: Black gloves, black mask, Biggie Tupac, like all that stuff
Speaker 1: that was like super inappropriate. Like if my kids are
Speaker 1: listening to it now, it's like we need to go,
Speaker 1: we need to talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But and then I come out of the tone like ah,
Speaker 3: and it was like my outlet.
Speaker 4: Now it's like.
Speaker 3: I don't need that, bro, like I don't need.
Speaker 4: To be takes a lot out of you. Yeah, it's exhausted.
Speaker 4: It's very exhausting, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The self motive, like you said, when you do it
Speaker 2: for a long time, it becomes you, becomes you. But
Speaker 2: it's also you know, like because of how good you played,
Speaker 2: you always had a constant standard of what people looked
Speaker 2: at you, and for you to go out and meet
Speaker 2: that standard every week that you created because of your play.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes when it's week eight, you're playing goddamn
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears that are fucking dog shit. It's hard to
Speaker 2: get up sometimes when you're banged up, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to go out and create. I
Speaker 2: would have to create stuff in my head to get
Speaker 2: you up, and that's exhausting, you know.
Speaker 1: I would create my dislike for you in watching film. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't like the way he did that.
Speaker 2: Right seat belt. They all do this. It's what about
Speaker 2: but the little Superman cape? No, I was I never
Speaker 2: really five nine. You can't never ever be Superman, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? More Mighty Mouse, you know, like
Speaker 2: people always say, like, oh, man, he's he has a
Speaker 2: Napoleon complex.
Speaker 1: Man, I've been five to nine pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty comfortable at my height.
Speaker 4: You were so you were big five nine and since
Speaker 4: you were young.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't a big five now, I was like
Speaker 1: five to five. I've been short my whole life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it hasn't bothered me.
Speaker 2: Now i've been I do have hope for a gross
Speaker 2: spurt because I've been wearing.
Speaker 4: Well was that so funny? Though? Hey, I'm still waiting
Speaker 4: on that thing too. Man, I'm five five still.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Like when I was in like ninth grade, I was
Speaker 1: wearing a nine, so my foot was going on. I
Speaker 1: was like, can you imagine five six? We're in the
Speaker 1: size eleven and a half size ten shoe and like
Speaker 1: I'm a size twelve and I can I never filled
Speaker 1: in my shoes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he still might have a spurt there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My son, one of my boys got it though,
Speaker 3: my son Boston. He's six to two.
Speaker 2: His name is Boston. Yeah, that's tight. Was what's the
Speaker 2: story behind Boston.
Speaker 1: I just like to name what it was not a Jackson,
Speaker 1: Boston and Noah. And there was a car salesman. We
Speaker 1: were buying a car. He was a car salesman. His
Speaker 1: name was Noah. Oh no, I'm sorry Jonah Jonah after
Speaker 1: that transaction, Nope, took.
Speaker 3: That name off the het. That's the film right there.
Speaker 4: That's like when you watch film.
Speaker 2: So I have to bring up, uh oh, the first
Speaker 2: time I really started. I mean, I knew you as
Speaker 2: a kid when I was playing not a kid. I
Speaker 2: wasn't like that much, like seven years younger than you,
Speaker 2: so whatever.
Speaker 4: But it was when I got drafted by Scotty Oh,
Speaker 4: Scotti O'Brien.
Speaker 2: He made me sit with him at five o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning and he gave me the whole game plan
Speaker 2: of what he would tell to thee the special teams
Speaker 2: meeting that day.
Speaker 4: So I had to sit in all the meetings and
Speaker 4: he was sit and watch.
Speaker 2: He made me watch punt returns of you and Medcalf
Speaker 2: and he would sitting there.
Speaker 3: I had to watch of Metcalf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotty was Scottio is crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love him. Though I love Scottio, you like.
Speaker 2: Him probably not, I respect him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he was so tough on me and just
Speaker 1: the way he was, and I just, uh, I didn't
Speaker 1: take that kind of coaching like as yay, yeah you
Speaker 1: love me.
Speaker 3: I took that as like side eye. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: kind of like.
Speaker 4: He loved you, bro.
Speaker 3: Bro, he didn't even know what.
Speaker 4: Because he's like that, you know.
Speaker 2: He was like he was like he's like that with
Speaker 2: Matthew Slater. Really Matthew Slater.
Speaker 3: I love Matthew Slat, the.
Speaker 4: Best human being in the world, bro.
Speaker 3: But Scotty just.
Speaker 2: He was tough on me, man, and just he just like, well,
Speaker 2: I said, how can I describe Scotty.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's like a.
Speaker 2: Like onions, Like onions, how I mean you need it,
Speaker 2: like if it's a burger, you need it on there,
Speaker 2: but then when you bite into it, you're kind of like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: too much onion, but.
Speaker 3: You but if you take it all out, you're like, no,
Speaker 3: I need some onions.
Speaker 4: The onion can't be too thick, but it can't be
Speaker 4: not not enough enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can taste it when it's not there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like, do I need this much?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you go to a place
Speaker 2: that's a little lazy that just cuts the onion straight
Speaker 2: and hot, like it doesn't mince the onion or cut
Speaker 2: the onion up where you have pieces of onion and
Speaker 2: then you get the fat.
Speaker 4: Chunk on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It kind of like, Well, the reason why I say
Speaker 1: that is so when he left Carolina he went to Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Miami, which we've gotten over Sam Madison.
Speaker 3: We played against each other.
Speaker 1: And Scotty kind of made and like suggested Sam do
Speaker 1: some things to get me riled up. And I knew
Speaker 1: where it came from, and at that time I was
Speaker 1: here only in my fifth year. Man, it kind of
Speaker 1: hit my soul a little bit because a guy that
Speaker 1: I respected and admired, Scotti, and how he had them
Speaker 1: do that, and so it just kind of was like
Speaker 1: it kind of what it did, and I'm connected with
Speaker 1: us now. It kind of traced back to growing up
Speaker 1: to where so you can't trust people. See the people
Speaker 1: you think that really are in your corner when they
Speaker 1: move on, is how they they're He's instructing you. He's
Speaker 1: instructing Sam to do a few things that indicse how
Speaker 1: he really feels about you. Yeah, and so that was
Speaker 1: like for me, it was like all right, it actually
Speaker 1: for me, I got you.
Speaker 4: I got you.
Speaker 3: But my got you is I'm done thought done, not not.
Speaker 4: Gone like the wind.
Speaker 1: No, like man, damn saying what happened now? Yeah, take
Speaker 1: a moment, people moving?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty crazy, pretty crazy?
Speaker 4: I was awkward. You like getting people awkward?
Speaker 3: No, bro, I just realized, like I just you.
Speaker 4: Like people walking around you on eggshells. You love it.
Speaker 3: I actually I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: It sucks because there's a lot of assumptions. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of assumptions about you. I know what you're thinking,
Speaker 1: really how that's amazing. I don't even know myself, but
Speaker 1: you do unique wow. Interesting. So I don't. It's it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where I've created this whole persona
Speaker 1: that people actually think they know me and they don't.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say is because I'm discovering myself
Speaker 1: of little things about myself.
Speaker 2: Said earlier in the fucking interview, I know them, but
Speaker 2: I don't know them.
Speaker 4: But I know them but I know clearly. I don't
Speaker 4: clearly I don't.
Speaker 1: Nah, but it's like now that I'm done playing, a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that hit me up or they like
Speaker 1: what's up, bro, and I'm like nothing. And when I
Speaker 1: come up to them, it was like like wow, because
Speaker 1: when I played, like I didn't talk to anybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times we've been on same field and I
Speaker 1: was You'd be like hey, and I'm and then I
Speaker 1: go back and I was like, man, I miss opportunity.
Speaker 3: Like Bro, one of the craziest things, Jews.
Speaker 1: I loved your game, Yeah, Bro, just the way you played,
Speaker 1: how you played, how they took you from quarterback and
Speaker 1: then the receiver, and how like all these people old this,
Speaker 1: he came out of.
Speaker 3: Nowhere knowing how much you grind and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Man, and hell of a football player, your acrement, understanding
Speaker 1: how how to do things, set up the corner, set
Speaker 1: up to play, knowing that your quarterback is very high strung.
Speaker 1: It has a huge, huge threshold and responsibility and expectation.
Speaker 1: You met that every single day with practice in preparation,
Speaker 1: and you did it in a game. And so like,
Speaker 1: I love And when I look at players now at
Speaker 1: the age I'm at, like I can actually look at
Speaker 1: their game and I admire, but I also look at
Speaker 1: it in my head as an athlete what they need
Speaker 1: to work on. Yeah, because I believe that defensive players
Speaker 1: have they have they know your deficiencies, the good ones, yes,
Speaker 1: and the scout. So I believe that you have to
Speaker 1: know what you're not good at, like.
Speaker 3: If they know it, you need to know without a doubt.
Speaker 1: And so like you know, so sometimes I come across
Speaker 1: as a hater, but it's more of like, well, we
Speaker 1: all know what the cake tastes like with all the
Speaker 1: ingredients cook perfectly, but do we know what the cake
Speaker 1: tastes like when you're missing the bacon, soda.
Speaker 4: It's a little floppy, it's a little nasty. It's nasty.
Speaker 2: It's true. I agree with that. It's tough to be
Speaker 2: in on TV and promoting the game, and we have
Speaker 2: to be real without hurting people's feelings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know I was promoting the game.
Speaker 4: Well just in general.
Speaker 3: They're still figuring that part out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 2: So, uh So I grew I played with you remember
Speaker 2: Anthony magazine man, I played with him in college.
Speaker 4: Okay, and then I went back to quarterback quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little Mags, a little Max. He used to
Speaker 1: be they used to all be in practice.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was telling me some stories about me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he goes, I go, I got Steve coming on. I
Speaker 2: remember you used to talk that he was close with
Speaker 2: your family because he you know, he said, you.
Speaker 4: Guys are very close, very close, very love you.
Speaker 3: Oh man, his family and Mags passed away, man.
Speaker 4: And you went and he it meant the world that
Speaker 4: you went to that funeral.
Speaker 3: Well, because that's who he was. Man.
Speaker 1: It was unfortunate, but like we used to have a
Speaker 1: true When Anthony graduated high school, me and Jake were at.
Speaker 3: His uh his graduation party at at.
Speaker 4: Thomas playing hoops.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah all the time. Oh, absolutely dominating kids.
Speaker 2: And then he said, he said, you and Dell are
Speaker 2: you and mccount Yeah? Played in a flag of football
Speaker 2: fucking league. Yeah man, uh man, Josh, here was my quarterback.
Speaker 2: I was receiving, played a little dB two, was clamping them,
Speaker 2: clamping them.
Speaker 4: Now, what were you did you get? He said?
Speaker 3: I rebroke my arm that I already had broke.
Speaker 4: You couldn't get enough on it? Is this an off season?
Speaker 4: It was off season.
Speaker 2: So what makes you sign up for a fucking y
Speaker 2: m c A just fucking to have fun, to go
Speaker 2: fucking compete against my mother?
Speaker 1: What made you sign up to go play this? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I had donated. So we're playing on
Speaker 1: field eighty nine, so I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's your field, my field.
Speaker 3: I just liked playing. I just loved playing football.
Speaker 1: And I always felt playing flag helped me in tackle
Speaker 1: because it helps you process spacing, thinking fast.
Speaker 3: Right, So I was just playing. It was just chilling.
Speaker 2: Maga said, he got in so much trouble because when
Speaker 2: you got hurt, big pop Mags fucking yell let him
Speaker 2: chewt him out. He's like, you knew you couldn't have
Speaker 2: him playing. He's like, I'm not gonna we can't play
Speaker 2: out there. I just still couldn't believe you were playing flag.
Speaker 4: I was having fun too. How many games did you play?
Speaker 4: This was his multiple game? Was this like a weekly
Speaker 4: like prep? It was a spring league? Was playing in
Speaker 4: the spring. How was Joshua count of the field.
Speaker 3: Oh, josh is a heck of athlete.
Speaker 4: He could light it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was playing wide receiver. I was playing quarterback too, Yeah, yeah, safety, linebacker, balling.
Speaker 3: We have fun.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Olympics in the flag
Speaker 2: football if you were playing, if you were in your
Speaker 2: prime and the Olympics had a flag football, would you
Speaker 2: try to play?
Speaker 1: I would, and then I probably wouldn't be on the
Speaker 1: team because just too intense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have loved that would be insane to
Speaker 2: go and try to get gold medal?
Speaker 4: Is the games completely Is it different though? Or is
Speaker 4: it the same?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is the flag is like the lead the flag LEAs
Speaker 1: now it's it's a lot of laterals. It's it's pretty good,
Speaker 1: like it's some they be running some plays they can
Speaker 1: play now to say now, I would say, there was
Speaker 1: the guy talking about he's just good as Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: that that remember the quarterback? Yes, yeah, I no, you
Speaker 1: ain't like everybody was letting that slide. No, he ain't
Speaker 1: not even close. Bro, I don't care what he's saying
Speaker 1: that he can do it, and and God bless him,
Speaker 1: I believe him.
Speaker 3: He ain't.
Speaker 4: He ain't could could Patrick go and not even know
Speaker 4: the rules of that?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, but I know that dude is
Speaker 1: not as good as Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. You're not you're not like it's
Speaker 3: what we do.
Speaker 1: Like you know this whole debate can football players play basketball?
Speaker 1: But I don't think so. I can dribble the ball.
Speaker 1: I can dribble, it doesn't mean I can play in
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I found out very quickly that I'm not a good
Speaker 1: basketball player.
Speaker 3: I had an accident with an accident. I found out
Speaker 3: I couldn't play.
Speaker 4: How can you what what was the accident?
Speaker 3: The accident was me trying out for who high school?
Speaker 4: What? So? How can you explain the scenario?
Speaker 3: This wasn't very good. Just it was I was not
Speaker 3: a basketball player.
Speaker 4: You just too physical?
Speaker 3: No, bro, I just was not a good basketball player.
Speaker 1: I did not have all the key fundamentals of being
Speaker 1: a good basketball player, like scoring points.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't like I was a football player.
Speaker 2: I played a lot of basketball, but I was always
Speaker 2: a football player playing in basketball.
Speaker 4: I was just quick. I could steal the ball.
Speaker 2: I never had the I never knew basketball like the
Speaker 2: vision like I didn't know.
Speaker 4: It didn't come close to.
Speaker 2: Me, like on when you're running a route or when
Speaker 2: you're on the football field and you're setting someone up.
Speaker 2: I didn't know the cutting that well. It just didn't
Speaker 2: come to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think everybody can play. Everybody's without
Speaker 1: a doubt. They think they can and ask grat not me.
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Speaker 2: day favorites. Well, let's go back into time around when
Speaker 2: the game happened. This is a segment where we talk
Speaker 2: about pop culture. This game took place. On January tenth,
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, the number one movie was Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings Return of the King, Lord of the
Speaker 2: Ring Guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah you like that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Me and my wife are actually rewatching it
Speaker 1: so we could watch the series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on Amazon right, Yeah, I've tried to watch.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 2: Outcast, outcast. Okay, are you a big boy orre you Andre?
Speaker 2: Three thousand?
Speaker 3: Both both both like because they were outcasts at that time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was.
Speaker 2: I was in Height, I was in call uh prom
Speaker 2: and that song that was this song was out.
Speaker 1: So when you were going, uh, that's what you took
Speaker 1: out Jerry Rice's uh yeah.
Speaker 4: Exat we were like. Picture was.
Speaker 2: Britney Spears has her surprise wedding after tying the not
Speaker 2: with the backup singers at the backup singer.
Speaker 4: This was the Yeah, the backup dancer, backup dancer.
Speaker 5: Jack for what I think like her tours only lasted
Speaker 5: fifty five hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy times.
Speaker 2: Big Fish, along came Paulie and you got served. Were
Speaker 2: all popping off in the yeah along King Poly Did
Speaker 2: you watch movies when you played or you just straight
Speaker 2: ball guy? Or did you go you have ball and
Speaker 2: then you went home and just was like family, what
Speaker 2: was your how were you back in twenty two thousand
Speaker 2: and four?
Speaker 1: I watched movies. I watched a lot of them. I
Speaker 1: still watch movies. I mean I grew up. Where you
Speaker 1: go you know that goes to the video store you
Speaker 1: rented out, you know Blockbuster?
Speaker 3: Like that was a big time bro Friday night, Yeah, Saturday.
Speaker 1: Or like uh like Christmas, break Man, go rent Mario
Speaker 1: three when the little uh when he was the right cool?
Speaker 4: Yeah? And that was three with the when he got
Speaker 4: the Flower or the leaf? Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now when you went home in twenty fourteen, like
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, what kind of guy were you
Speaker 2: in the locker room? Like like what how did you
Speaker 2: get away from the game? Or were you all like
Speaker 2: during football season? Was it football season always? Because for
Speaker 2: me I was football. Everyone knew it was football. I
Speaker 2: had like an hour where I would play video games
Speaker 2: kind of catch up with my boys over the internet
Speaker 2: before I would do like.
Speaker 3: Shit, Internet wasn't that good back in two thousand?
Speaker 4: Was dial up?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Baby?
Speaker 3: Was I had ah.
Speaker 4: That zero net zero?
Speaker 2: I don't even remember it. My parents were I was
Speaker 2: still a kid there. Wow, you were like an adult. Bro.
Speaker 3: You's seven years older than.
Speaker 4: Me at this time.
Speaker 2: So in this year, yeah, how old are you in
Speaker 2: two thousand and four? Uh, twenty twenty three, I was
Speaker 2: like seventeen. It's kind of different slightly. You're making millions
Speaker 2: of dollars in the NFL. I was still I was.
Speaker 2: I was under my parents.
Speaker 3: Bro, I was.
Speaker 2: I remember two thousand and four, that was one twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Oh see you remember that was one twenty nine, one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine thousand. I remember that first check.
Speaker 2: I was shocked and surprised. I think thirty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: I said, who's check? Is this? Surprised? Why it was
Speaker 4: three thousand dollars? Is that a lotter? Is that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: That was not the the dream I was sold. I
Speaker 1: was like, who says, where's the rest of my money?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it was one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for rookies, Like my whole when I got driving, my
Speaker 1: whole check was not complaining.
Speaker 3: So take this complaint.
Speaker 2: But when you say everybody's a millionaire and then you
Speaker 2: get a check and it ain't no millions on there?
Speaker 4: Where are they at where they're.
Speaker 1: At, and I think my whole contract is like one
Speaker 1: point two. I got my signing bones was five hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: It was three seventy five. That thing was tricky.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was seventh, three hundred and forty nine grand to
Speaker 2: my name bro forty nine grand I had.
Speaker 4: I thought I was rich.
Speaker 1: Six grand I had to pay seventy five thousand, So
Speaker 1: I had six grand left April sixteenth, after.
Speaker 3: My rookie year. Yeah, I blew it. He learned though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I learned.
Speaker 4: Good, good good.
Speaker 2: In the sports world, Patriots went on to win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Peyton Manning and Air McNair where the m
Speaker 2: v P loves Steven is one of my fucking favorites.
Speaker 4: White, Jason White.
Speaker 3: He hasn't done anything since.
Speaker 4: Since USC won the Natty.
Speaker 2: Now you grew up around here, how come you Did
Speaker 2: you ever have dreams of going to u C l
Speaker 2: A or USC. No, they didn't recruit short people. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get it. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: go to go anywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my two options was sam Houston State, San Jose
Speaker 1: and Utah. Yeah, and then Sam Houston State decided that
Speaker 1: I wasn't eligible, which is interesting. But I was eligible
Speaker 1: for Utah, but it wasn't for Sam Houston State and
Speaker 1: then San Jose State was kind of like where everybody went.
Speaker 1: Uh that was from West LA and all that stuff
Speaker 1: and a track record with UH. That was kind of
Speaker 1: like going back. It was kind of like going back
Speaker 1: to californ you know, going back to high stood.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, turn worn out, turned out really good.
Speaker 2: This was the year the Ravens swept the Defensive Award
Speaker 2: or the awards. Ray Lewis with Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 2: Turell Sugs with Today's his birthday, Happy birthday, and Jamal Lewis,
Speaker 2: who was a fucking didn't you have three hundred yards
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 4: I believe, So let me check on that. What was
Speaker 4: it like playing with the Ravens.
Speaker 3: It was dope, a good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I got close with Ray a little bit when we
Speaker 2: did inside the NFL.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was that was after I was doing
Speaker 3: inside of the NFL.
Speaker 4: Too, probably, so I kicked the.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you don't.
Speaker 4: I did not know you did not.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that offense, we guess it. But
Speaker 3: Ray hilarious.
Speaker 2: So you come from the Panthers, Yes, you were part
Speaker 2: of being a huge foundational piece. I'm making that organization relevant.
Speaker 2: That was an expansion team when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: and then you guys went to the Super Bowl, competed,
Speaker 2: fucking played your guys nuts off a bunch. When you
Speaker 2: go to the Ravens, they're in this era doing the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, Ray was already gone.
Speaker 1: Sis was there, Elvis Duomerville, Chris Canty and reed uh
Speaker 1: Ed was already gone.
Speaker 4: Was he gone? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I remember because when I was in Carolina he was
Speaker 3: with the Jets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. So it didn't look right. Texans too,
Speaker 4: Texans too and so.
Speaker 3: But it was great because I was just at a
Speaker 3: place I just you know, I.
Speaker 1: Just need a new scenior. I wanted to know what
Speaker 1: it was like and loved the city. City City still
Speaker 1: shows me. Love goes out there. My daughter Baylor, she's
Speaker 1: a huge Ravens fan. Like yeah, she like she loves them, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's because of you.
Speaker 3: She's got into football.
Speaker 1: My son, my oldest Peyton, started getting her into fantasy
Speaker 1: and he created a monster like she's at like when
Speaker 1: we're at the house and we're watching, she's I'm watching.
Speaker 1: I watched two games at a time because I like
Speaker 1: to see the game. She's like, yo, change it, and
Speaker 1: she's watching four, and I like, I can't watch four.
Speaker 3: I need two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too too much. You don't do this the
Speaker 4: new what is it YouTube TV? Where you split the box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's split it in a four. I like to
Speaker 3: split it in the two.
Speaker 2: I do three on the one o'clock games with the
Speaker 2: red zone. Yeah, and then I go reback and I
Speaker 2: and then I watch I'll like do the condensed versions,
Speaker 2: like of the games.
Speaker 3: We really need to see forty six minutes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty six or you hit like the highlights and
Speaker 2: then you hit some of the forty six.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I generally I watched half of them and then on
Speaker 1: a Monday, Monday morning, I'll get up and then what
Speaker 1: I started doing is during Sundays, actually walk on the
Speaker 1: treadman watch the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now I heard you you watch you still watching film?
Speaker 4: Where I getting that from? Who do you watch film with?
Speaker 4: I heard myself?
Speaker 2: I remember there was was there a few Did you
Speaker 2: just do a feature or you're watching still watching film?
Speaker 4: Or you were talking about it? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: On my podcast eighty nine, I think, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I watch film on guys, like I'll try to
Speaker 1: like look and see what's going on, just because you
Speaker 1: know how you watch the game and you're like, something's
Speaker 1: wrong here, what's going on? And so I'll go back
Speaker 1: and then I'll go back and look. So what I
Speaker 1: generally do is if I see something, I'm like, I'll
Speaker 1: just write myself a note and then I'll go back
Speaker 1: and watch it, and then i'll at the research, and
Speaker 1: the research confirms my intuition. Sometimes the research is like nah, bro,
Speaker 1: you off okay again? Yeah, and so that's what that's
Speaker 1: what I ended up doing. So I'll look at a guy,
Speaker 1: see it, and then I'll go back and study him,
Speaker 1: and then i'll get and I'm kind of weird with numbers,
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like, okay, let me see how
Speaker 1: many times he was lined up outside? Who well, when
Speaker 1: he was targeted? Was it on the number two? Why
Speaker 1: was a corner or the number one corner?
Speaker 3: You know? Was it on the top tier?
Speaker 2: Guy?
Speaker 3: Was it on the bottom tier?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you bothering against the number two, but you're
Speaker 1: getting them clamps on, you know. So I look at
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, you know, averaged up to target.
Speaker 1: What is the quarterback rating when targeted? What's your how
Speaker 1: far are you going? What's your yack? How many first
Speaker 1: downs have you really helped the team get? How many mistackles?
Speaker 1: So I try to see, like what about that individual
Speaker 1: his his game is good or you needs to work on.
Speaker 3: And I just that's just kind of how I look
Speaker 3: at him.
Speaker 4: Who are some of the guys that impress you right
Speaker 4: now in the league? Give me two you two.
Speaker 2: Two guys that you look at You're like, that dude's
Speaker 2: a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 4: What makes him so well?
Speaker 1: His his length and the way he moves his breaks
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks the offense he end Uh,
Speaker 1: he's mastered it.
Speaker 3: He knows exactly what to do.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: He can change up his tempo so well. His releases
Speaker 1: off the charts.
Speaker 3: But then I.
Speaker 1: Also favor because I was old guy. I favored the
Speaker 1: old guys too, Like so I still think Davante Adams
Speaker 1: is still that guy. He's not gonna he's never been
Speaker 1: a four to three guy, but his releases are remarkable.
Speaker 1: Just the way he does his hands, ball placement, catch, radius,
Speaker 1: body control, tempo, sudden burst, really good sudden burst and
Speaker 1: then his his his creativity to stack you even though
Speaker 1: he's not faster than you, So just him being able
Speaker 1: to use his leverage.
Speaker 3: So like, I look at that.
Speaker 1: But then there's other guys I think that that are
Speaker 1: promising who have the ability.
Speaker 2: Who's someone that you think that kind of reminds you
Speaker 2: of you? If there's anyone, see, So people ask that and.
Speaker 4: Hard to do that. So the reason why I.
Speaker 1: I'm not judging you, The reason why I have a
Speaker 1: hard time answering that question is because I also remember
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be a far front draft pick.
Speaker 1: I was also told I was just a returner. So
Speaker 1: now that I'm done playing, everybody's like, oh, he minds me.
Speaker 1: You But when I was playing, people didn't like me,
Speaker 1: and so you didn't like me. And then there's you know,
Speaker 1: we read our stuff on there and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, people like, oh, Steve was just a slow receiver,
Speaker 1: and really it was I didn't know that. I think
Speaker 1: the game has changed, but I also think there are
Speaker 1: players out there who I don't remind me of myself,
Speaker 1: because I think they are significantly better. I played the
Speaker 1: way I played because I was obviously I did like
Speaker 1: I didn't have quick feet like Chad like I can do.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do great cone drills. I round in my routes.
Speaker 1: I never ran the right I never ran the same
Speaker 1: route the same way. So they were things that I
Speaker 1: did that I used as my advantage. But I ran
Speaker 1: my routes kind of add like I was never consistent
Speaker 1: on doing things.
Speaker 3: I did it my way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but I was really just kind of like
Speaker 1: covering for the fact that man, I was just playing
Speaker 1: on hope of the prayer. Yeah, and so that's just
Speaker 1: kind of like, I know I was playing with house money, right,
Speaker 1: I know that, So just roll the dice, say, man,
Speaker 1: put all the chips in. So when I go across
Speaker 1: the middle and I know I'm gonna get hit, you
Speaker 1: got a choice to get hit with the ball, oh
Speaker 1: without the ball. And so a few times like all right,
Speaker 1: I get hit with the ball. Now I get up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you know a guy used to
Speaker 1: hit me and he'd be like, oh, what you want
Speaker 1: with that? And so I started getting up like if
Speaker 1: you think you crazy, I'm crazier. And so it was
Speaker 1: more like the feed into like to intimidate and show bro,
Speaker 1: I'm be here all day.
Speaker 4: Your best didn't hurt me, No, and.
Speaker 1: Then I'll get and then old school football, so then
Speaker 1: I'll go. And I really didn't like blocking, but it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I got a block, and so
Speaker 1: it was like they're gonna hit me, so I can
Speaker 1: hit them. So I really would block and just kind
Speaker 1: of lean and I realized with my leverage and the
Speaker 1: way the angles, I can hit them. And then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I could tee off. And so
Speaker 1: then you know, a guy hits you, or he'll be
Speaker 1: talking and then they'll run, you know the uh toss crack,
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you hit me.
Speaker 1: Or so I'll run and then come back and I
Speaker 1: get the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or I can hit this. I can hit this
Speaker 2: linebacker that's chasing. You're going to chase her. It's a
Speaker 2: bigger hit.
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm gonna and I'm trying to knock his
Speaker 1: helmet off. But I would hit him. I would hit
Speaker 1: him up high. I always respect the game. I never
Speaker 1: hit a dude down low. If I hit you down low,
Speaker 1: that was because I didn't respect you. But if I
Speaker 1: didn't respect you, that means also because you hit me
Speaker 1: down load. So we have no regards of each other's career.
Speaker 1: So guess what, let's do it there?
Speaker 2: Head is different. You know, you knock someone out, that's
Speaker 2: that's considered a kiss. You're taking out knees, that's considered
Speaker 2: a career.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so I got to the point where guys knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, i'mna hit you up top if
Speaker 1: you hit me low again or you cheap shot me.
Speaker 3: I got one question for you.
Speaker 1: When I cut you and they gotta do surgery, My
Speaker 1: question is what kind of flowers you want to send you?
Speaker 3: They look at me, just let me.
Speaker 1: Know, don't And you see they go back to the
Speaker 1: huddle and they're trying to They're trying to decide do
Speaker 1: I really want to go there with them?
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking they're designing tulips or roses?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Nah.
Speaker 3: They was like really thinking, like, bro, where do you
Speaker 3: come up with?
Speaker 4: Like did you you've thought that before?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've said that before. Oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now is this spur of the moment ship talking where
Speaker 2: it just comes to you or are you like a
Speaker 2: poet where you have a couple of these you've you've
Speaker 2: thought about these situations, you have a couple on the
Speaker 2: tool belt for when you see him.
Speaker 4: Say, is is this just free free burden?
Speaker 1: It's just some of it, just like some of them.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of embarrassed that I like said that. I
Speaker 1: was like, dang, that was bad.
Speaker 4: What's the most embarrassing?
Speaker 1: So I remember Stuart was telling me one time, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Stewart he had played with one of the DB's that
Speaker 1: were out there, and so the dB had did something
Speaker 1: and I just was like held him down and I
Speaker 1: held him down until the referee came and Grabbler and
Speaker 1: Stewie said, man, why'd you do that?
Speaker 4: Steve?
Speaker 1: What did he do? And Bro, just like I was
Speaker 1: just like he was born. He was like, hold up
Speaker 1: because he was born.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: That was just the first thing came out of my
Speaker 1: head because I didn't have a legitimate excuse. He was
Speaker 1: like everybody's born. But then I was like, I have
Speaker 1: my head down, but I'm not engaging in that. That
Speaker 1: was my answer. Okay, accept it or don't accept it.
Speaker 1: But that was the kind of dumb stuff I said
Speaker 1: and did.
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's you.
Speaker 2: But you know how he didn't finish a game, Bro,
Speaker 2: that is you gotta put it out a goddamn T shirt.
Speaker 4: Is it? You got it on a T shirt yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some dude trademarked it and offered it
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I watched it, and I remember as a kid, I
Speaker 2: remember when we played against each other. And but you
Speaker 2: have some fucking straight poems out there with how you
Speaker 2: talk shit to fools right on the spur of the
Speaker 2: moment postgame interviews anything. I was sitting there like this,
Speaker 2: motherfucker should be a rapper. You should be a fucking rapper.
Speaker 2: You spit like nine right after a game.
Speaker 4: The story. It's some kind of funny ass way of
Speaker 4: doing it. You should.
Speaker 2: You should have a marketing company or something appreciate it.
Speaker 4: It's fucking gnarly, Jackie. Let's get into the game. Should
Speaker 4: you talk about these rams? Real quick? Real quick?
Speaker 5: This is the twelve and four rams. Mike Martz, Lovey
Speaker 5: Smith leading that defense. Uh, Steve Fairchild the OC. This year,
Speaker 5: Mark Bulger took over for Kurt Warner.
Speaker 4: This year he got Kurt warnered.
Speaker 5: You got Kurt warnered six fumbles in the first game
Speaker 5: and was a little banged up coming off a seven.
Speaker 4: Is that why he went to the glove?
Speaker 2: I think it will because he went to the glove
Speaker 2: after this year in New York for the first time,
Speaker 2: then kept it when he went to Arizona.
Speaker 4: We'll get into it.
Speaker 5: I think we got to do a little, but I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure he told us that when he was on waver.
Speaker 4: I trusted a quarterback with the glove.
Speaker 1: I never trust a football player wearing ASEX. I've seen several.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. You just can't trust
Speaker 1: a man, just a football player wearing ASEX in practice.
Speaker 4: It's a weird brand to see on the field, I'll
Speaker 4: tell you that.
Speaker 5: And a big story with this team was the home
Speaker 5: win streak eight no at home fourteen game home win
Speaker 5: streak coming into this game. The offense this is like
Speaker 5: late era greatest ye one turf, but still led the
Speaker 5: NFL in scoring almost twenty eight points a game. Five
Speaker 5: Hall of famers on this team. You got Marshall Falk,
Speaker 5: Orlando Pace, William Kurt and Isaac Bruce. Tory Holt should
Speaker 5: be in What do you think, Steve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce. Isaac went
Speaker 1: to Santa Monica. Yeah yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: Mike Ferry, what did you now when you played and
Speaker 2: you played against guys like this group pre game?
Speaker 1: Did you Brandham? Uh, I'm not gonna butcher his name. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to Arizona. He was a big boy, eighty
Speaker 1: six tight end. He was huge, huge.
Speaker 2: But when you would play against a guy like Tory
Speaker 2: JL or Isaac Bruce, I used to watch him bro
Speaker 2: we watching Oh definitely, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean Isaac went to Utah, he went to Santa
Speaker 1: Monica and like we always knew, like so it was
Speaker 1: like I was like, wow, Like, man, I remember my
Speaker 1: rookie year.
Speaker 4: We played.
Speaker 3: Saint Louis Ramsy.
Speaker 1: We were one to fifteen and Marshall was out there
Speaker 1: just he was just like he had one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty yards. At halftime, Trump candidate came in and I
Speaker 1: was standing up watching. I was like, dang, I was
Speaker 1: like a fan. Yeah, he was getting molly wopped. I
Speaker 1: was just just watching him.
Speaker 4: Marshall fulk was unreal. I watched him in this, we
Speaker 4: watched the game.
Speaker 3: He was so dope.
Speaker 2: Now, yes, Christian mccaffee or Marshall fault because they're kind
Speaker 2: of that same player.
Speaker 4: They're both the focal point of that offense. Now they are.
Speaker 4: But San Francisco runs it more though.
Speaker 3: I like both. But I'm just be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm favorite of Marshall because I grew up in California
Speaker 1: knowing Marshall.
Speaker 3: Is from San Diego State.
Speaker 1: Like this dude, like Isaac kan is on this team, right, No,
Speaker 1: he was, he would he had actually went to New
Speaker 1: Orleans by then, but Isaac King went to Fairfax. I
Speaker 1: went to UNI, right, So it's like, like, these are
Speaker 1: guys on this team that like I grew up morning.
Speaker 1: I remember, Bro, I'm friends with Johnathan Ogden. I remember
Speaker 1: seeing Johnathan Ogden with that afro walking at Third Street
Speaker 1: prom when I was a kid at University High School. Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: I met I'm at uh Stokely at the super Bowl
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Bro, it was like I used to have
Speaker 1: the Stokely eighty three uh forty nine ers. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: so for me going to get some of these dudes, man,
Speaker 1: I was they got?
Speaker 4: I was?
Speaker 3: It was dope.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: So going into this game though, did they still have that?
Speaker 2: They were they still like the big dogs the NFC,
Speaker 2: and you guys were still not like were you knocking?
Speaker 2: Were you the hungry guys and they were kind of
Speaker 2: like that or were you guys not intimidated, but like,
Speaker 2: was it like a feat to beat these these guys
Speaker 2: at this time were fucking flying high now they were,
Speaker 2: but we felt that we you know, we just were tough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a tough team.
Speaker 4: Ran the ball. You had you and Mohammed.
Speaker 1: Slick Rick slick Rick Ricky pro was on there. Oh Dad,
Speaker 1: damn look you know, damn looker. Uh, Tommy Polly, I
Speaker 1: remember Tommy pop. It was Tommy Polly. And then before
Speaker 1: that they had uh Brandon ba Brandon Allen who it
Speaker 1: was out of Tommy Polly and Brandon Allen they had
Speaker 1: actually drafted those two guys instead of me, uh that year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And so then they had Travis Fisher twenty two.
Speaker 1: He was a corner. He was from uh University of
Speaker 1: Central Florida. Uh, Fred Warner, he Fred Weary, he was
Speaker 1: he had played with New Orleans so he was a
Speaker 1: special team guy. So I went against him.
Speaker 2: And then Nis Williams he was he was great, knew him,
Speaker 2: I saw him recently.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean a lot of these guys.
Speaker 4: Were you Rams fan at all growing up because they
Speaker 4: were there.
Speaker 2: You're a forty same here for my dog's name of
Speaker 2: Dwight and Montana. Really yeah, I love the Niners. I
Speaker 2: love him too, man, Jerry Rice freaking JJ Stokes t
Speaker 2: o but be careful, Roger Craig Roger huh hey. Ricky Waters,
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters was a monster. Charlie Gardner back in the day.
Speaker 2: Charlie wasn't the Raiders. Don't hear with the Eagles too,
Speaker 2: and he went to the Eagles those Niners teams Ken
Speaker 2: Norton when he beat up the bag and they went
Speaker 2: to I hate him because he went to Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Morton Hanks, Burton Hanks, he was he find guy, Tim
Speaker 2: McDonald did you ever find you? Burton Hanks? I used
Speaker 2: to trying to sunk up to him so much good
Speaker 2: to be nice to the find guy. I'd be over
Speaker 2: throw a ball in the stands. You get an eight
Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine Merton Hanks. I'm like, yo, bro, like
Speaker 2: you remember you used to do the little next Yeah
Speaker 2: it was cool, dude, Like he wouldn't give me no
Speaker 2: money back, like slap it.
Speaker 4: We're laughing. Jordy Nelson's a fine guy now.
Speaker 2: Now Jordy Nelson's Jordy Nelson is a fine guy.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's unique.
Speaker 4: We just randomly saw that the other name. We're laughing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's Jackie break down the Panthers.
Speaker 5: Panthers squad eleven and five, second year of the John
Speaker 5: Fox era. It's just two years removed from a one
Speaker 5: in fifteen season. That was the end of the George
Speaker 5: seafferd era. Speaking the Niners, Uh, Jordan Gross's rookie season,
Speaker 5: Steve's third year, top ten defense Jake Diloane replaced Rodney
Speaker 5: Pete week one, that Jacksonville game, and the rest is history.
Speaker 4: The best damn Sports show Rodney Pete, like that show.
Speaker 2: John Sally, Sally, Chris Rose, Chris.
Speaker 4: Show, Rock bro in Fox Sports.
Speaker 5: Uh, Steve had a thousand yard receiving season his first.
Speaker 5: This was also the keep pounding season with with Sam Mills.
Speaker 5: Uh so that was that was a big narrative throughout
Speaker 5: the season. But uh yeah, really right, the redular the
Speaker 5: ship quick after a one in fifteen season.
Speaker 2: Now, how'd you guys turn around? How would you describe
Speaker 2: this Panther's era.
Speaker 4: We were kind of surprised.
Speaker 1: How well, like when you look at the roster man,
Speaker 1: just looking at the roster of these names, Rod Smart,
Speaker 1: he hate me Kevin Dyson.
Speaker 3: He was a first round draft pick. They kent.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans drafted him over or before. Randy Moss,
Speaker 1: Carl Hankedon Big Bank. He was from New Orleans. Make
Speaker 1: you say Muss and Muhammad, Ricky pro myself fifty two
Speaker 1: linebacker Brian Allen. He was actually drafted by the Saint
Speaker 1: Louis Rams. Will Willerspoon Leicester Towns. He was linebacker. Hammer feet.
Speaker 1: He had some bad feet. Greg Greg favors. He was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Vinnie Churchill was a great UH special teams guy.
Speaker 1: Colin Branch he was pretty good. Gerro Cooper from Kansas.
Speaker 1: He was especially in guys. Tecuz was an acquisition from
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Dion Grant h d G was great. He
Speaker 1: was a safety. Will Hamilton he was pretty good. Reggie Howard,
Speaker 1: he's from Memphis. Ricky Mannuels from UCLA. Mike Minner big
Speaker 1: Man was hit you.
Speaker 3: Till Man. He was kind of there.
Speaker 1: Dante Wesley he was a special teams guy from Historical
Speaker 1: Black College, Al Wallace who acquired him from the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: He was actually a school teacher. Mike Rucker went to Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Ken rash Mussen was pretty darn good.
Speaker 2: He ended up going to Seattle and now he's a
Speaker 2: fireman back in Charlotte obviously.
Speaker 4: Julius Peppers. Kendall moorehead is a He is now a
Speaker 4: strength coach.
Speaker 1: I think at Alabama for a long time. Chris Jenkins,
Speaker 1: big jank, he had went on and went to uh
Speaker 1: the Jets. Heck of athletic dude. Brencha Buckner. He was
Speaker 1: an acquisition for the Samisipsco forty nine ers. Shane Burton was
Speaker 1: a guy journeyman. He was pretty good. He had blocked
Speaker 1: a lot of kicks. Matt Willing. You still see him
Speaker 1: now on on commercials. He was a big six seven
Speaker 1: six ' eight guy who was also knock knee. Todd
Speaker 1: Stucey was acquired from Minnesota too. Tom Res he was
Speaker 1: pretty good. He was He lives in Atlanta. Bruce Nelson,
Speaker 1: he was a second round draft pick who we discovered
Speaker 1: had a He has the jener of hips. Jeff Mitchell.
Speaker 1: He was a older guy, you know. James ended up
Speaker 1: playing well.
Speaker 2: Then he went on to Miami, signed a big contract,
Speaker 2: got hurt, never played again.
Speaker 3: Jordan Gross played that. You tald me.
Speaker 1: Kevin Donnelly was an acquisition originally for the for the
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers. Then Miami it came here. Jermaine Wiggins was
Speaker 1: with you guys. That's when, That's when, that's when.
Speaker 2: Wiggy came from uh new from you guys with Dan Henny,
Speaker 2: Chris Mangum.
Speaker 1: Pretty good dude. Lived in Mississippi. Ricky pro or the
Speaker 1: Brad Hoover. He was Coastal Carolina Nick Goings. Uh he
Speaker 1: was a full back and uh kind of like a
Speaker 1: utility player. Ended up retiring because he got some concussions.
Speaker 1: To John Foster obviously head coach c LA. He was dope.
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis, I call him radio. He was coming from
Speaker 1: uh the Commander's Chris wink. He was a fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: He was drafted after me, but he got a bigger
Speaker 1: shinning bones than me. From Florida State. He was Heisman Trophy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played baseball as well. And Rodney Pete great dude,
Speaker 1: sweet meat Rodney Pete, that's what he was called him.
Speaker 3: Then Jake DeLong.
Speaker 4: Many talk about know your fucking team. You know you're
Speaker 4: a good teammate. That's impressed. I could never do that, Bro.
Speaker 4: You spit a fact about everyone.
Speaker 3: John Casey really good friend of mine taught me about business.
Speaker 3: That a kicker.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then uh Todds Stucy no toss owerbro big big
Speaker 1: bomb unique.
Speaker 3: And then uh Lefty he was just unique.
Speaker 4: That's he left.
Speaker 1: He was unique. And then Jason Kyle, he was the
Speaker 1: long snapper. Uh long snapper for a long time.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 5: That's a first in the nuthouse of any guests. It
Speaker 5: is like that knows their team that well, guy, But
Speaker 5: that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Who's the unsung heroes of this team?
Speaker 3: Den Morgan?
Speaker 1: I think in that Super Bowl he ended up having like,
Speaker 1: uh seventeen or twenty two tackles.
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Jesus Greg Favors.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a linebacker you're missing that we didn't Mark Fields.
Speaker 3: Mark Fields is not on here?
Speaker 4: Yep. Mark Fields was supposed to be on there. Where's
Speaker 4: Mark Fields of the season? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Fields? He was on their unsung heroes man.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was a lot of them because
Speaker 1: we were like kind of the band of misfits, Like
Speaker 1: we really weren't supposed to like be where we were
Speaker 1: being and how we were being there. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: it was unique, right, you had a five to nine
Speaker 1: receiver at X. You had an old man who uh Moussin.
Speaker 1: Then you had Carl Hankton, Kevin Dyson, Eugene Baker. He
Speaker 1: went to Kent State, Eugene Baker. Yeah, he went to
Speaker 1: Kent State.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say what I was just thinking, so
Speaker 1: I stopped myself. Good dude, Eugene, what year was it?
Speaker 4: What did he go to Kent How long did he
Speaker 4: was on the team.
Speaker 1: Uh, Eugene Baker's a good dude, man, It's good he
Speaker 1: played Kent State.
Speaker 4: Kent State drafted nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: I told you, Boom, you don't even know your school.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know Ken.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what Kent State was until I
Speaker 2: went to on my visit. Yeah, but he still went
Speaker 2: there though I did. No, he still went there.
Speaker 4: But I've heard his name.
Speaker 5: How much are you guys still in contact, because like
Speaker 5: this was such a unique group of guys, Like you
Speaker 5: still talk to these dudes all the time.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin Donald, he's uh he is at UC Chapel Hill.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Jordan Gross just moved a couple of years ago, just
Speaker 1: moved back to to the whole Idaho. Jeff Mitchell is
Speaker 1: Skinny had two help replacements to Tom rads is in
Speaker 1: he's in Atlanta. Matt Williams out here acting he hate me.
Speaker 1: He kind of comes and goes. Nick Goins is down
Speaker 1: at the beach in North Carolina. Brad who was head coaching.
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis is in South Columbia. Chris wink Is, Uh,
Speaker 1: he was coaching a little bit. He's all over. Rodney's
Speaker 1: moved to Calabasas. Kevin Dyson is a school teacher and
Speaker 1: me and him play every year. We played golf together
Speaker 1: in Bandon Dunes. Uh, Bannon Due. It's in Portland.
Speaker 4: It's probably nice.
Speaker 1: Oh, super nice. It's public too. It's a Muni. It's outstanding.
Speaker 1: Ricky Pole is doing stuff and soon coaching. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: coaching and coaching. Steve Smith's Uh Steve Smith now he's
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior.
Speaker 3: Chris Mangum.
Speaker 1: When I was with Baltimore, he came down from Mississippi
Speaker 1: and drove down and came to the game.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Jermaine Wiggins, Uh, he's doing radio. I believe Al Wallace
Speaker 1: is in Charlotte. Mike Rutgers in Charlotte. Ken Raths musa
Speaker 1: as a fireman. Chris Jenkins moved back to Maryland. Shane
Speaker 1: Burton is I think he's up at the Lake Brischard
Speaker 1: Buckner was coaching deon Grants in Atlanta. Will Hamilton, I
Speaker 1: think is in Atlanta. Reggie Howards and Minas in Memphis.
Speaker 1: Ricky Manning Junior is coaching with the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: Mike Mannard just retired from coaching at Campbell. Dante Wesley
Speaker 1: I see him in Dallas every time, so.
Speaker 4: You're seeing the team, You're seeing a bunch of the guys.
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Morgan is the general manager for the for them.
Speaker 1: Will Witherspoon is doing I saw him a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. He's actually he has a farm out in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis because after that year he resigned and got
Speaker 1: a big deal with Saint Louis. So he does that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I mean I talked to him. I try to
Speaker 1: talk to him a lot. The guys make sure. Me
Speaker 1: and Jake talk probably once a month, Dope just checking
Speaker 1: checking in. Me and Moose talk.
Speaker 2: So where were you guys in the chemistry factor this year?
Speaker 2: Was this like your breakout year with him? Or how
Speaker 2: many years did you have him at that time?
Speaker 1: Who Jake so this is so, this was great. This
Speaker 1: is when we had went to Super Bowl. Then opening
Speaker 1: week against Green Bay, I broke my ankle, so I
Speaker 1: was out moose ball. Then he went to Chicago and
Speaker 1: then next year I came back and I won a
Speaker 1: triple crown.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First you were the last person to do it before
Speaker 2: Coop did it. Yeah, and then Sterling Sharp was before you, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: jer crazy Jerry Sterling, that's fucking gnarly. That is crazy
Speaker 2: to be a triple crown yards tugs and receptions.
Speaker 4: He hate me. If you played in the XFL, what
Speaker 4: would your name have been?
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough confidence like that, Like people think
Speaker 1: I have a lot of kind of I really don't.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't make a stab at it? No, well I
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have either.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: Now can we talk about you were there for so long?
Speaker 2: You play with Cam? Yeah, I played with Cam.
Speaker 4: I was up. I liked Cam.
Speaker 2: Cam was Caim. He went to his I was just
Speaker 2: he went to his own beat. Like Kim would be
Speaker 2: out there and four he'd be there at four thirty
Speaker 2: in the morning. It was different because it was COVID.
Speaker 2: So I only got him for like COVID year. He'd
Speaker 2: be there at like four three in the morning on
Speaker 2: the treadmill and like doing his thing, and he's just
Speaker 2: like and then he would do some crazy ass ship
Speaker 2: that make you laugh and stuff. But I had never
Speaker 2: been around that. It was just different. But Kim was
Speaker 2: a great dude, worked his dick off, worked hard. He
Speaker 2: worked hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how you like him? You liked him? He was.
Speaker 3: I was at a different I was at.
Speaker 4: He told me that about you. I asked him about you.
Speaker 4: He goes, he goes. I was a he goes.
Speaker 2: He said that exact same thing. I think he goes.
Speaker 2: Steve was at a different point in his career when
Speaker 2: I was there. I was twenty two or I was
Speaker 2: twenty years old. He was a grown ass man, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: so we were in that's the exact same thing he said.
Speaker 2: I was not or about anything other than ball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't care less, that's what he said. Hey listen, No, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, don't think that's it was. I love
Speaker 2: him for that specific for us though, So here's what
Speaker 2: I would say, right.
Speaker 1: I really tried not to really talk much about it,
Speaker 1: because one looking back at how I was and looking
Speaker 1: back where I was. I wanted to win, and I
Speaker 1: was so concerned about winning. I didn't really care about
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. That other stuff to me was irrelevant.
Speaker 1: And I was fresh traded there. Yes, I wanted to win,
Speaker 1: and I knew that my time was coming up. And
Speaker 1: so there were times people would like in the organization,
Speaker 1: would say I'm jealous. I wasn't jealous. I wanted to win.
Speaker 1: You're right here, it's not oh, I'm jealous. No, I
Speaker 1: wanted to win yesterday and today's the day.
Speaker 4: So I was.
Speaker 1: I was in a hurry. I was all about man.
Speaker 1: Seeing Marty Herney before they drafted camp Man, I had
Speaker 1: an off site meeting with the general manager, and man,
Speaker 1: we had a crazy meeting. When I say crazy, like
Speaker 1: I did and said stuff in football, Bro, it was
Speaker 1: just like what are you doing? Like I go back
Speaker 1: and I like cringe, like, oh, my wife does that?
Speaker 1: Like oh, I had a meeting with Marty Herney one
Speaker 1: time we met at one of the country clubs I
Speaker 1: was at and I had my notebook and I wrote
Speaker 1: down stats and I was like, bro, I am so
Speaker 1: tired of losing Marty, and I just want to win.
Speaker 1: And so I had looked up Lynn swan stats and
Speaker 1: I put lynn Swan's stats of what he had and
Speaker 1: what I had, and I said, you know, statistically, I
Speaker 1: have passed Lynn Swan four years ago. I said, but
Speaker 1: you know the difference between Lynn Swan and me. Lynn
Speaker 1: Swan understood that if he satisfied his personal goals that
Speaker 1: he would exceed anything he can achieve because the team
Speaker 1: goals were so much bigger. I said, my statistical goals
Speaker 1: are less and the team goals are less. Why am
Speaker 1: I here? We're not win and I'm not getting stats.
Speaker 1: He looked at me and that was the first time
Speaker 1: like he was like he thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be like a cussing out section. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. I remember saying Lynn Swan's
Speaker 1: when he was with the Pittsburgh and his goals were
Speaker 1: so high, he knew that he would surpass anything personally
Speaker 1: he can do. Because the team goes statistically, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be remarkable. I said, I'm not doing either, So why
Speaker 1: should I stay?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What am I holding out for? And he looked at
Speaker 1: me and he was like And then I stopped and
Speaker 1: I said, now it's your turn. He said, I need
Speaker 1: to get back to you because he thought it was
Speaker 1: a bout and I was just like, bro, I'm just
Speaker 1: I want to play. I love this game so much,
Speaker 1: but I also know what this game is. This game
Speaker 1: is about statistical stats, and so it just like so
Speaker 1: when Cam got there, man, I was so burnt out
Speaker 1: and so I was such a complainer about not winning
Speaker 1: that I did not have patience for all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't have patience for him to develop. I was thirty something,
Speaker 1: I get it, and so it was very complicated and
Speaker 1: it was a loaded situation. And then we had you know,
Speaker 1: coach coach Rivere. He was getting his feet wet and
Speaker 1: he was trying to figure it out, and it just
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this ain't for me.
Speaker 2: You get old in the same spot for a while
Speaker 2: when things started going, I was a cranky old guy
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 1: But what's funny is when I left and went to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: like the Ryan Khalils, the guys who were young, the
Speaker 1: Louke Keigley's, they started when I came. When I was playing,
Speaker 1: they were like, I'm starting to be like Steve now
Speaker 1: I'm all grumpy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you know, that's how it goes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what is it? What is the Batman quote? You long
Speaker 2: enough as a hero, you died the villain or some
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my quotes movies.
Speaker 4: Jack. Let's see what this game is about real quick,
Speaker 4: all right, let's get into this thing.
Speaker 5: This is the number two seed versus number three seed Panthers,
Speaker 5: coming off a win against Dallas. Steve bald out that
Speaker 5: game that was a Bank of America one hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty five yards in a tuddy of the week before,
Speaker 5: so coming in riding high, this was the best first
Speaker 5: quarter offense versus the best first quarter defense. So we
Speaker 5: only see three points in this first quarter, three to nothing.
Speaker 5: That would be a theme throughout this game. Field goals
Speaker 5: eight combined field goals this game. Some field goal misses also.
Speaker 5: Then in the second we get this weird first score,
Speaker 5: the touchdown for the Panthers, weird bamboozle fumble pitche moose
Speaker 5: recovers it in the end zone.
Speaker 4: Panthers get up.
Speaker 5: This was to put them up seven to six, tack
Speaker 5: on a field goal, up ten to nine.
Speaker 4: At the half.
Speaker 5: So fewest, I mean, this was like a very low
Speaker 5: score game, which was surprising given given the offensive prowess
Speaker 5: of the Greatest Show on Turf, so just kind of
Speaker 5: a you knew it was gonna be a weird game,
Speaker 5: a long game, a war of attrition.
Speaker 4: Uh after that first half, what was it like playing
Speaker 4: that turf, bro and.
Speaker 1: That turf was dope? I mean I don tennis shoes,
Speaker 1: so you I think I was rebock then rocking rebox
Speaker 1: this game, Yeah, I was, I was rebok. I was
Speaker 1: moving too.
Speaker 5: We saw one of the rams guys had on some
Speaker 5: sixteens looks sick the Golden Blue sixties.
Speaker 3: Jordan's yeah, oh yeah, that was Marshall.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Folk used to play in those, usually
Speaker 5: playing see this football mine, I got steel trapped.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 2: He fucking just rattled off every teammate, their their dog's name,
Speaker 2: there where they live, and their investments.
Speaker 1: Hey, Dan Looker, Dan Looker was supposed to be that
Speaker 1: dude though, dang Dane Looker.
Speaker 3: He's he was supposed to be that dude, was he?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They were, they were. He was supposed to be the
Speaker 3: guy that replaced.
Speaker 2: Ricky pro He probably Ricky Prol had it. He had
Speaker 2: some really good seasons with you guys, and with the
Speaker 2: Greatest Show.
Speaker 4: He won did anyone. He was in that Super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 4: with them. Griggy Pole was a good little players, Like
Speaker 4: is he how tall is he? I think i've met him?
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 3: Everybody's stall me?
Speaker 4: So I don't know five eleven? How tall you? Five ten?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I just I'm short, So I'm just kind
Speaker 3: of used.
Speaker 4: To it and I get it same.
Speaker 2: I was just hoping he would be in the short
Speaker 2: game they list at six feet.
Speaker 4: Once you hit six, it's not as cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that it's over, it's cooler that you're shorter,
Speaker 2: because then you let you know that you were able
Speaker 2: to go and do what you did on the field
Speaker 2: against those guys at a That's that's.
Speaker 4: How I think bro.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: three yards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And John Fox was opening up the playbook earlier.
Speaker 5: This one two into rounds at the beginning. You threw
Speaker 5: one up early, no tragic.
Speaker 2: So this game's going on, you guys are going into overtime.
Speaker 2: What's the mentality of the team, like going in that
Speaker 2: second overtime after like, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, we weren't even supposed to be there.
Speaker 4: You're playing with house money, You're feeling.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and then you can see I had a
Speaker 1: visor on because Travis. Uh yeah, he poked me in
Speaker 1: an eye four.
Speaker 3: Yeah hurt. It does, especially when you got your eyes
Speaker 3: open too.
Speaker 5: That was back when they had the major in the
Speaker 5: minor face masking penalties. They threw the major on him
Speaker 5: that one. What like the like remember you could get
Speaker 5: the fifteen yard face mask or like the uh yeah.
Speaker 1: And then when I came back after the visor, he
Speaker 1: jammed me again. And the thing in the rep that
Speaker 1: was the first time the ref was like another one
Speaker 1: of those.
Speaker 4: I was like, shout out to the visor. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: They didn't call that stuff back in the day. Really
Speaker 4: it was. It was very very It was very I
Speaker 4: was watching some of these guys.
Speaker 2: I saw a fullback he broke out and he kind
Speaker 2: of went out of bounce guy like a second later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this one was you can see it. It
Speaker 1: was like he hit you with the three students, was it? No,
Speaker 1: it was a straight accident.
Speaker 4: He's an offhand jam guy. That's usually where they get.
Speaker 4: You get the offhand jam guy. Sometimes they missed you.
Speaker 1: Nah, he was double jam that's how jam. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I kind of lowered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: What was the turning point of this game, though.
Speaker 3: I'll be I mean I had hair back then. I
Speaker 3: don't know, bro. It was so back and forth.
Speaker 2: It was so it was so back and forth that
Speaker 2: it was just like we were just holding on for
Speaker 2: their life.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Now walking through the walk off, you do X clown again.
Speaker 2: You hit it in the fourth quarter, I believe, and
Speaker 2: you have like a thirty yard game. Yeah, when you
Speaker 2: guys line up to call it, it's first play, what
Speaker 2: do you think and they're giving you Are you thinking
Speaker 2: this is just for a chunk player?
Speaker 4: Are do you know that you're going to be covered? Well?
Speaker 1: I knew it was cover too, Yeah, So I stemmed inside,
Speaker 1: I run, I lean, But when I leaned, I leaned
Speaker 1: so much inside this time that when he threw it,
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure in cover too exactly.
Speaker 3: How far or how close, well, how far the safety was.
Speaker 1: So when I leaned, I kind of had that lean
Speaker 1: like you know that WinCE, and went there and he
Speaker 1: wasn't there.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, I can't go Yeah, and so
Speaker 3: that's that's what it was.
Speaker 2: But but then once I got it, I was like,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody catching me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: You're fast? I kind of was.
Speaker 3: I was surprised.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Kana was that was crazy I
Speaker 2: had but because I had a long stride and so
Speaker 2: it took me a little bit of time to build up.
Speaker 4: Nah.
Speaker 2: But there's very rarely a film of you getting getting caught.
Speaker 4: I got caught.
Speaker 2: But for being a five to nine guy to be
Speaker 2: able to hold your high.
Speaker 4: Speed, that's insane. And you get them young legs. Those
Speaker 4: are young legs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as your third You know, when you start looking
Speaker 2: at your legs when you're watching film, you watch your
Speaker 2: older film, You're like, man, you look like a different
Speaker 2: At least I could always see what year my career
Speaker 2: is through the film of how my legs looked.
Speaker 4: Really through the speed, I don't watch film like that.
Speaker 4: When you hit the ends and what did you do? Bro?
Speaker 3: I was so shocked, man, I was like, oh man, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then they came and it was.
Speaker 4: It was dope. How did you guys celebrate?
Speaker 3: Oh we got back on a flight?
Speaker 2: Uh was it was it celebrate time? Or did you
Speaker 2: guys know you had another job?
Speaker 1: We knew we had another job, but it was it
Speaker 1: was dope though, Like mister Richardson at the time, who
Speaker 1: was the owner, like my family was there, so it was.
Speaker 1: It was great, Like it was a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: uh people there. Man, it was dope.
Speaker 2: You got like, we can hear walk off in baseball
Speaker 2: all the time, but to have a walk off in
Speaker 2: double overtime, what's that? That's fucking gotta that's insane, that
Speaker 2: feeling it is.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, just like I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember when you were with I was with the Ravens
Speaker 1: and you threw that pass like you don't really know
Speaker 1: it until like it's kind of like over.
Speaker 4: You don't appreciate it until it's gone home. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you never enjoy it.
Speaker 2: No, I never got to enjoy this because the next
Speaker 2: year you just trying to go again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 5: Just a sum that went up before we put a
Speaker 5: bow on it. The Rams came back from down twenty
Speaker 5: three to twelve in the fourth quarter, touchdown, two point conversion,
Speaker 5: on side kick recovery tie it up at twenty three.
Speaker 4: Convert a big fourth and fourth.
Speaker 2: After the game we've done in the last two weeks,
Speaker 2: I had an on side kick recovery. We did the
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen patter the Seahawks Seahawks Green Bay, remember remember
Speaker 2: that game where Aaron Rodgers and I would get Rest
Speaker 2: Wilson through five interceptions, they still won.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Crazy, It's crazy because when you.
Speaker 1: See who dropped that pass, his career has never been
Speaker 1: side Oh there was the running back who was a
Speaker 1: He was a running back and wide receiver, a green Star.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brandon Bostik dropped it on the on side kick
Speaker 5: because Jordy Nelson was behind him. He was supposed to
Speaker 5: be the blocker. He jumped up to catch it like this.
Speaker 5: They hit him right in the face mask.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was to watch the on side kick now, like,
Speaker 2: no one's getting on side kicks nowadays, not with these
Speaker 2: new rules and stuff. Even you gotta you gotta like
Speaker 2: tell the team somebody.
Speaker 3: Got an onside kick.
Speaker 4: Not yet, not in the new dynamic.
Speaker 1: Somebody did get onside kick a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Damn that just I'm dead.
Speaker 2: It's certainly been someone just did it out of the
Speaker 2: new rules.
Speaker 4: How do you like the new rules? I like it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it matters what cowboys first one
Speaker 1: told you, bang man paying attention analyst, You were analysts.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get this you know I've been
Speaker 2: having to do all this research for this interview.
Speaker 6: Dude, he's too busy watching young Legs on the film Legs.
Speaker 4: Jokers. Everyone's got everyone's got a joke. Now, huh, everyone's
Speaker 4: got jokes. That's right, that's right, that's right. Is this
Speaker 4: the most memorable player in your career for you? Or
Speaker 4: is there a different play?
Speaker 2: There's a lot of plays, like I remember certain little
Speaker 2: things about nuances.
Speaker 4: What's your favorite play that you made?
Speaker 1: I think this, I mean, this is the most memorable
Speaker 1: in my Panther history. I mean the biggest play is
Speaker 1: I always leave. To be honest, man, is just making
Speaker 1: us to the league? Yeah, Like I respect that because
Speaker 1: you know, I was man. I used to ride the
Speaker 1: bus back and forth here on Woolsher the three one. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I used to day dream, fall asleep on the bus
Speaker 1: hoping to play in the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So man, every you know, every every chance.
Speaker 1: Like That's why now I never say, you know, act
Speaker 1: like you've been there before, because I know, you know,
Speaker 1: what's this over?
Speaker 3: It is over. It's no takebacks, no givebacks.
Speaker 4: No take backs, no givebacks. He's deep, Yes, that was
Speaker 4: I was profound. I love that. What's the what's the
Speaker 4: legacy and what's the wrap up aftermath of this game?
Speaker 5: And then in overtime we get two missed field goals
Speaker 5: in the first overtime to end overtime one, Mark Boulger
Speaker 5: throws an interception which would set up third and fourteen.
Speaker 3: From the game.
Speaker 2: Bulger reminds me of a little bit Bulger I was
Speaker 2: looking at the film, kind of reminds me of Jimmy G.
Speaker 4: The way he throws it.
Speaker 1: I've never called it Jimmy G pass Well, Mark Bolger
Speaker 1: that thing like butter bro I called it one of
Speaker 1: his passes in uh in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like how they're throwing motion, They're both kind
Speaker 2: of keep it low and they kind of that that
Speaker 2: little quick release.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bias whole quarterbacks. I think they get
Speaker 1: way too much credit. Yeah, so, I like I'm very
Speaker 1: critical of quarterbacks. Yeah, Like I'm very judging of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Gotta be super judgy.
Speaker 2: I mean, the they're the ones that gotta be judged
Speaker 2: the most. They're making the most money. I Yeah, just
Speaker 2: I'm very judging, Like, like who everybody, all.
Speaker 4: Of them judgment on.
Speaker 3: Tom Nothing, Thomas Crafty, Crafty, he.
Speaker 4: Was who's your favorite quarterback growing up?
Speaker 3: Steve Young?
Speaker 4: Steve Young, I.
Speaker 3: Like Randall Cunningham. Yeah, uh, I like uh Troy.
Speaker 1: Troy was good, you know how I love though like two,
Speaker 1: I thought he was just he was crazy good. Keith Buyers,
Speaker 1: Keith Byers, Yeah, he's like a full back slash half
Speaker 1: bag going number forty one?
Speaker 4: What team?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: He was with?
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, Dolphins, Dolphins, Pats, Pats for a minute, yep,
Speaker 1: past for a minute.
Speaker 3: Wow, your your football acromen is very disappointing.
Speaker 4: Been hitting the head a lot too?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, is that what you're going with? That excuse
Speaker 1: doesn't work, Steve can No.
Speaker 5: Jaggie final scoring this one twenty nine twenty three Panthers
Speaker 5: walk it off. Baby would go on to beat Philly
Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship get to the Super Bowl, as
Speaker 5: we talked about earlier. And then one little last fun
Speaker 5: fact here. This was an old NFL Europe matchup. Jake
Speaker 5: Delone backed up Mark Bulger for the Frankfurt Galaxy.
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 5: Galaxy for all you NFL europe Heads at home, just
Speaker 5: throwing that one in there.
Speaker 2: Fighting dude, I wish they had Europe when I was younger,
Speaker 2: that would rock.
Speaker 4: Man. I probably would have been over there. I could
Speaker 4: see you over there. It wouldn't that been.
Speaker 2: Cool if you were a practice squad guy or something
Speaker 2: you got to go live in Europe for a year
Speaker 2: and play football.
Speaker 3: No, not not at my rookie I was ignorant. Nope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I look on it, like, now, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's go. Yeah, but no, who's the mount
Speaker 2: Rushmore Panthers?
Speaker 1: Man, you ain't giving me a troost pass? Except pass,
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it always starts with Samuels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out everybody else other than that, everybody under that.
Speaker 3: Do what you may.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not getting involved in that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you don't have to keep pounding wristband back
Speaker 5: in the day, I don't know what you were doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We
Speaker 2: gotta name the game. What's the name of this game?
Speaker 2: These are a couple of things that we came up with.
Speaker 2: The X Clown Game, the Turf Killer Rip Greatest Show
Speaker 2: on Turf, Pretty versus Gritty or do you have a
Speaker 2: different name. The name is the It's the ex clown game.
Speaker 2: That's the name of the game, the X Clown game
Speaker 2: will go with it. Score the game presented by door Dash.
Speaker 2: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it?
Speaker 2: Steak zero to ten decimals? Okay, the stakes of this game.
Speaker 2: What you gotta score it like the steaks, like the
Speaker 2: importance of like ten ten ten, I go with a
Speaker 2: nine win.
Speaker 4: You you gotta watch the show.
Speaker 3: I did watch it. I didn't watch it till the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got watched the very end. If it's a
Speaker 4: super Bowl, it's it's like a nine to five.
Speaker 2: If it's a super Bowl with like importance, like they're
Speaker 2: going for a double repeat or something, you know, then
Speaker 2: it's a ten.
Speaker 4: Ok.
Speaker 6: Sorry, like space jams games like ten because like world
Speaker 6: was at risk, that's the standard.
Speaker 4: No star power of the game zero to Ooh.
Speaker 3: Is it based on today? Or is it based on
Speaker 3: back then? Back then? Back then?
Speaker 4: Back then?
Speaker 3: Were five? Dam back then?
Speaker 4: What about today? What would the today score be? Bro
Speaker 4: fifteen fifteen? So back then a five six.
Speaker 2: Hall of famers in this thing, six hall of famers
Speaker 2: and some futures and some futures in some futures.
Speaker 1: See Jason Sehorn was out there. He's a he is
Speaker 1: the Michael Irvan killer. Jason Seahorn.
Speaker 4: I was, I was playing against Seahorn. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I ran past him.
Speaker 4: He's due.
Speaker 3: He lives in Charlotte, though our kids went to the
Speaker 3: same school.
Speaker 4: Great, dude, that's right.
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, star power for me. I'm gonna go with like eight.
Speaker 4: Jack had a seven nine out of seven. The gameplay
Speaker 4: of the game. How the game played.
Speaker 1: Out, Oh, it was. It was very uh it was
Speaker 1: white knuckled. So I said seven.
Speaker 4: Seven, I go, I go. I mean there was a
Speaker 4: lot of fun plays in this this game for the.
Speaker 2: Viewer, kick miss field goals, nail biders, first double ot
Speaker 2: game six, I remember, the longest game in NFL history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta go, probably eight and eight and a half.
Speaker 4: Jack had a nine point three. The game was awesome.
Speaker 2: The name of the game, the X Clown Game. Okay,
Speaker 2: score in and importance of all time? How people are
Speaker 2: gonna remember this game?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean our history is a ten ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, ex clown people know what you mean?
Speaker 3: Yes, I knew what it mant.
Speaker 4: I'll go with the eight point eight wow jacket A
Speaker 4: nine point one at eight or well, I mean we've
Speaker 4: had the immaculate reception game.
Speaker 3: There's like listening to you.
Speaker 4: Eight point four four.
Speaker 6: That puts us tied for like sixteen seventeenth with Wrestlmania
Speaker 6: thirty five with two belts in the double comeback game
Speaker 6: Ravens Patriots twenty.
Speaker 2: Fourteen, right by the double comeback top twenty. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: it's really good.
Speaker 1: I'm just I've never watched till the end, so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of I'm like double Like I'm looking at this.
Speaker 4: All the games we've thought, oh wow, we've done the Bananigans,
Speaker 4: we did the Yankees Red Sox.
Speaker 3: Oh, the wheelchair game? Is that what Paul pierce his pants?
Speaker 2: He didn't confirm he'd no, we confirmed he didn't. Technically,
Speaker 2: that's what he says. What we go by it he
Speaker 2: didn't shit his pants.
Speaker 4: I don't believe Steve, Where do you stand on that one?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 4: What did he or did he not? What poop on himself? Problem?
Speaker 4: In the right white the wide right game? That was tough.
Speaker 6: Before we wrap up, I'd love to ask you a question.
Speaker 6: This season you went on to play the Patriots in
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. Tyler is a friend of the show.
Speaker 6: I would just love to hear going against with That's
Speaker 6: like it was dope, Like Tyler is very skilled.
Speaker 1: I ended up man going against something of the Patriots
Speaker 1: was was cool because.
Speaker 3: We had this whole deal.
Speaker 1: We weren't going to get pushed around, like uh, they
Speaker 1: pushed around the coats and I was like, bro, they
Speaker 1: are that is not happening with us.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: But ty like he when he went to the Jets,
Speaker 1: we had like a little I had emotion and it
Speaker 1: was a play coming this way and he recognized it
Speaker 1: by aligneman and assignment and shot the gap and I
Speaker 1: got yelled at, like man, So I just remember he
Speaker 1: was like really smart, real smart Hall of Famer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just there's
Speaker 1: a little small things that like, you know, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but they were like little small things.
Speaker 3: It was like, man, this dude, if.
Speaker 4: You're a Hall of Fame corner, you're a guy that
Speaker 4: knows the game.
Speaker 2: If you look at all the Hall of Fame corners,
Speaker 2: they were all revis is gonna be one.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, he is one.
Speaker 4: Though he's in.
Speaker 1: I hate going I hate it going against with it,
Speaker 1: and and uh when he was waiting with you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, Yeah, we were battling out. Bro.
Speaker 1: You you got a good ass game. Didn't you score
Speaker 1: in the first half of the second half? We got adjustments? Yeah,
Speaker 1: adjustments yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Steve, we missed anything about this game? Well, I don't
Speaker 4: think that was dope, Bro, that was awesome.
Speaker 2: Anything you want to plug ironed out on YouTube, go
Speaker 2: check it out, folks.
Speaker 3: Then go check it out.
Speaker 4: Anything else. Eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I ain't know, underdog. I mean, we can exchange numbers.
Speaker 1: I keep talking to your handling.
Speaker 4: Why didn't It's not even that, It's just I mean
Speaker 4: I didn't know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sometimes asking for guys numbers, you don't know
Speaker 2: how they're going to react.
Speaker 1: I mean you got a child, right, Yeah I do.
Speaker 1: I'll do thirty eight. You've been told no once or
Speaker 1: twice in your life a few times.
Speaker 4: You would be all right, then, Bro, will be all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would say, Man, I have not done myself for
Speaker 1: good service by like kind of how I've kind of
Speaker 1: carried myself when I played. But Bro, I'll be honest, Man,
Speaker 1: I come humbly, come in like Bro, I want to
Speaker 1: keep the brotherhood, and just like hanging out and chilling
Speaker 1: bro all day. And the fact that you have lived
Speaker 1: here so many years.
Speaker 4: I've only been here for eighteen months.
Speaker 1: Bro, You've been You've been coming back and forth to
Speaker 1: l life. I'm inn into the year for how many years?
Speaker 4: Like ten?
Speaker 2: Okay, but you already said you're in North Carolina. You
Speaker 2: out here, man, My family's out here.
Speaker 1: Like when I got your home address, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about sending some boys up just to knock on the
Speaker 1: door and just let you know.
Speaker 3: That's how close.
Speaker 4: Gotta check in, just check in, se what we'll exchange numbers.
Speaker 4: And I would love to hang out, play golf, play gold.
Speaker 4: I would love to. I just didn't know. You know,
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm like a rook to you. You're
Speaker 4: you're Steve fucking man.
Speaker 2: You're like one of my heroes is a kid. I'm
Speaker 2: not just gonna slide up in your fucking.
Speaker 4: Hey man, it's Julian Edelman. Bro, how are you doing?
Speaker 4: Would you like? No, that's dope, That's how I feel. No,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so let's do it. Let's
Speaker 4: do it. Yeah, what show?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, appreciate it man, Steve Smith Senior, legend,
Speaker 2: senior legend guy.
Speaker 4: We've been waiting to get in that house for a minute.
Speaker 4: Such a fan of how he approached the game.
Speaker 2: You know everyone everyone has that that thought, Like he
Speaker 2: even talked about it. What what what is Steve Smith
Speaker 2: really like? But to sit here and go name for
Speaker 2: name and like put a fact a location, uh like
Speaker 2: a Snapple fact on every teammate he had from twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago. Bro, that's fucking impressive. And as a
Speaker 2: first something that's like, that's not only like intelligently crazy
Speaker 2: that you can remember that, but like your eq like
Speaker 2: to like know who you're playing with. And I don't
Speaker 2: know that. I feel terrible. I felt like a shitty teammate.
Speaker 2: After that, I went and called David Andrews and Brian
Speaker 2: Hoyor just to call him and say, hey, guys, how
Speaker 2: you doing, dev what's going on?
Speaker 4: Bro? Gott to keep in touch with the boys? I know.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 5: That was because usually we throw the we throw the
Speaker 5: rosters up, we go through them. He look, Oh he
Speaker 5: was good. I remember every guy where he's at, what.
Speaker 4: He's It was incredible. And also just listening home, we
Speaker 4: cut down a lot too. There was more there.
Speaker 6: It was way more there that we will have retroact
Speaker 6: cut down a lot of that too, because he had
Speaker 6: all of it.
Speaker 4: Competitor. He might have dropped a couple of Social Security numbers.
Speaker 4: I think address literally.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to hear some like bayou stories of
Speaker 5: him and Jake DeLoone, like down in the Bayou doing something.
Speaker 4: I know, retire.
Speaker 2: Those commercials were so funny. They Yes, there's a Jangles commercial.
Speaker 2: Did we ask We didn't ask that.
Speaker 5: We didn't get to ask him about the Bojangles dukes
Speaker 5: that had you know all time Steven make it nervous.
Speaker 4: I know, I was shrunk. I was a little bit.
Speaker 4: I like. I like that you're a little under hills too.
Speaker 4: I like when you get uncomfortable. He got me, got
Speaker 4: me a little nerve. I just didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like, you know, one of my
Speaker 2: childhood heroes, and he's for real makes me nervous.
Speaker 4: Great all time game all overlooked awesome. I think there's
Speaker 4: a hear a ring at the door. There, A ring
Speaker 4: is our food here? I think our foods here. He
Speaker 4: liked he and I love how I and Ninco rocked
Speaker 4: the the turned up bill. Yeah, the bill. I'm more
Speaker 4: slared to him than Ninco, though, well, Steve's been doing
Speaker 4: it forever. Nino just started it. Yeah, Ninko copied him.
Speaker 4: Oh it's here the big dog e.
Speaker 6: All right, let's see this postcast segment, so we can
Speaker 6: eat this delicious food delivered by.
Speaker 4: Door dash like three slices like Jack explain this segment.
Speaker 5: All right, So we're what we're going to do high
Speaker 5: level Kyler and I will be naming all thirty two
Speaker 5: teams go through one by one. You say the first food, snack,
Speaker 5: edible item that comes to your mind.
Speaker 4: Fuck, we'll do a question. We'll example here. It sounds
Speaker 4: hard to me, and Jack did a test round. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's easy. Yeah, it's not that hard. There you go
Speaker 4: that kind of.
Speaker 5: Anything that's your mind goes to that's emblematic of that team,
Speaker 5: that city.
Speaker 4: We'll let it rip. Are you ready all right? Fastest
Speaker 4: key rapid fire? You want to uh?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 10: Yeah, a FC East, Bill's Wings, Dolphins, Tuna.
Speaker 4: Patriots, Chowder, Jets, Italian.
Speaker 5: Okay, go to the a FC North Ravens, Crab Cakes,
Speaker 5: Good One, Bengals, Skyline, Chili, Brown gold Star Guy, honestly,
Speaker 5: Brown's Rock Kneys, not dog food.
Speaker 4: Stillers, Pardini's Brothers. What are those? Sam?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went there once, so good old teammate of
Speaker 2: mind at ken State, Drager used to talk about it
Speaker 2: all goddamn time.
Speaker 4: Keep going a little overrated.
Speaker 9: A FC South Texans, Wing Ribs, Ribs, Colts, uh sant
Speaker 9: Elmo's freaking little uh shrimp cocktail that makes you want
Speaker 9: to throw up because it has a lot of shit
Speaker 9: in it.
Speaker 4: Horse shrimp cocktails, shrimp cocktails.
Speaker 2: The Jaguars, Jags Uh Applebee's.
Speaker 4: We were thinking of Don and Jacksonville Baby, Hey, that's
Speaker 4: what I thought. Titans Barbecue, Nashville Hot chicken s.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never I don't know Nashville that well, Barbie
Speaker 2: never really been, but you always get those Nashville Hot
Speaker 2: chicken sandwiches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have that. What Dave's over here chicken.
Speaker 2: Is in Nashville style. I think so and BBQ allright,
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 4: I do like a Memphis style barbecue. You know. Drake
Speaker 4: is an investor in Dave's. Drake Davis Okay.
Speaker 6: AFC West Broncos Denver, Denver, The Rocky Mountain, Oyster Breakfast Burrito.
Speaker 4: Chiefs, Kansas City.
Speaker 2: They have really good like barbecue too, it's that's what
Speaker 2: I think of them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Lewis rib Yeah, styles of barbecue.
Speaker 2: Yea, the Raider Steakhouse, Like I feel like I'm in Vegas,
Speaker 2: Oakland Chargers. You know in Oakland there'd be some like
Speaker 2: Steve Korean or ship over there. They used to have
Speaker 2: a place in Berkeley that was really good. Loved it
Speaker 2: when I go visit all my friends there, Curti.
Speaker 4: Chargers, l A. I'm going with the little.
Speaker 2: It's like the little squeal of tacos, little pickled tacos
Speaker 2: that have ground beef.
Speaker 4: They are like fried, a burger taco.
Speaker 2: It's like a burger, a ground beef taco, A ground
Speaker 2: beef taco.
Speaker 4: That's what a charger is. I like when you order
Speaker 4: those for the crib. Yeah, they're fire.
Speaker 2: They use they call it the white Boy taco. That's
Speaker 2: what I call it because they use cheddar cheese. They
Speaker 2: don't use like the real ship. It's pretty yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Off the East the Cowboys, Dallas, Big d
Speaker 2: just want a big steak, bigtak.
Speaker 4: We can we can amend dancers, Jerry. That's yeah. New
Speaker 4: York Giants.
Speaker 2: I was gonna go a whole pizza, but they're a
Speaker 2: slice of pizza.
Speaker 10: Slice of pizza. The Eagles Philadelphia. We already said, it's
Speaker 10: cheese steaks easy, the Commander's commanders, what's something like political bullshit?
Speaker 5: They got the Mumbo sauce over there, they got the
Speaker 5: Ben's Chili bowl.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know DC that well.
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of friends from college that were
Speaker 2: from DC area, but I don't know. And the go go,
Speaker 2: I know the go go. But for food, this is
Speaker 2: esppecially rapid release or rapid fire. First thing that comes
Speaker 2: to your mind, where is that one spot? Wasn't there
Speaker 2: something in one of those political shows.
Speaker 4: Freddy's Barbecue. I don't know if that's really well, I
Speaker 4: don't think it is.
Speaker 2: If if the Crabcakes or Baltimore d C's like real
Speaker 2: crabcake ish, it's real close. So they probably have good crabcakes.
Speaker 2: So they have like the little ones.
Speaker 4: Okay, d C crab Cakes.
Speaker 3: D catch some smoke for that, that's okay.
Speaker 4: The Bears they'll get so mad about that. Hey we're
Speaker 4: going bareland fucking Oh my god, what you're talking about? Bullshit?
Speaker 4: Hey we know, Cliff baby, it's blue blue crab.
Speaker 2: I believe right, because where I'm from over in the
Speaker 2: you know, little dungeness, dungeness.
Speaker 4: A little sweeter, smaller, the sweeter.
Speaker 2: The Bears deep dish, but they're not actually deep dishes,
Speaker 2: like tough type pizza there.
Speaker 4: They can't run the ball.
Speaker 3: Different style Chicago pizza.
Speaker 2: They're the bar the thin cracker style, the bar cracker.
Speaker 2: That's what the Bears are right now. It's good pizza,
Speaker 2: but it ain't deep dish.
Speaker 4: How about the Lions.
Speaker 2: Lions, They're a fucking double cheeseburger to me right now,
Speaker 2: double cheeseburger, double cheese packers.
Speaker 4: There is one answer here that's correct. Yeah, cheese.
Speaker 2: It's just like a cheesehead, right, But I want like
Speaker 2: a good Wisconsin white cheddar mm Vikings, Vikings, Dude, I
Speaker 2: went to Minnesota and I had a really good burger
Speaker 2: there at Red Cow.
Speaker 4: I think brought worse too.
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh they got that's what brought.
Speaker 4: Yes, yours just brought. It's a real cast.
Speaker 3: Did you write that?
Speaker 4: Are we still going?
Speaker 5: Yeah? We got.
Speaker 4: In this league?
Speaker 5: By else NFC South Atlanta Falcons, Falcons, Chicken and Waffles.
Speaker 3: Feels played out.
Speaker 2: It feels like two thousand lemon pepper wings magic city,
Speaker 2: we gotta go.
Speaker 4: I've heard it. I heard nothing like the Wings Panthers.
Speaker 4: Did we say lemon pepper here? Yeah, the Panthers's Carolina
Speaker 4: style barbecue. Can you put more mustard and vinegar?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I was thinking more like a sardine. I like that.
Speaker 4: That's and sardines.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the fans that that support that organization.
Speaker 4: I don't even mean you mean.
Speaker 2: Some people love sardines. A little salty for me, New Orleans,
Speaker 2: give me some Cajun chicken.
Speaker 4: Or some Casun down. Give me some coach o, you know,
Speaker 4: some gumbo gumbo. No, some crawfish. Crawfish Ridley he had
Speaker 4: this dude. He was lsu. He had drive. The same
Speaker 4: day of.
Speaker 2: Catching the crawfish, we did crawfish bake up in New England.
Speaker 2: This guy came from early in the day, caught the fish,
Speaker 2: brought his whole fucking boiling thing, towed it up. We
Speaker 2: had like a crawfish bake. Whoa at the like on a.
Speaker 2: It was a Friday.
Speaker 4: It was awesome, like the whole dump thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah you dump it. He brought tables. I mean he
Speaker 2: brought the whole kitten kaboodle. It was so spicy. I
Speaker 2: mean the corn was great, but like I couldn't eat
Speaker 2: for like I had to drink milk for twenty minutes after.
Speaker 4: It was fucking spicy. When I was little.
Speaker 2: There you do all the work for a little piece
Speaker 2: of It's just not my style.
Speaker 4: I'm with you. And you can only eat so many potatoes.
Speaker 3: I liked.
Speaker 4: I liked the the what did they put They put.
Speaker 2: Sausage in there and dewey, Yeah, you get the sausage
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the super Bowl. It's so spicy.
Speaker 2: It's really good, really good, But you can't like it
Speaker 2: takes you hours.
Speaker 4: You gotta start playing a proper i'member. I've done like
Speaker 4: a cross, like a like a low country boiled, but
Speaker 4: never like and I don't know how to do it
Speaker 4: like that. Like the guys that live there, like rid
Speaker 4: and all the guys.
Speaker 2: Are sucking it things. They are like this, I'm over
Speaker 2: here to fucking dissect it or something. For five minutes,
Speaker 2: It's like, what is this meat?
Speaker 4: Is this meat? I don't know if I need a
Speaker 4: hammer my hands, like what, I don't know what to
Speaker 4: do a little crack snap and go. I know, I
Speaker 4: know it's the crack snap and go. But it's fucking hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I tip my cap to
Speaker 2: all those people that can just go through. Maybe like
Speaker 2: they go through like fifty they'll eat like fifty of
Speaker 2: those things. No, they probably like one hundred. They sit
Speaker 2: all day like Rid was there. Just a lot of
Speaker 2: the Louisiana guys are on the team just for an hour.
Speaker 2: You don't get full though. Yeah, it's because it's such
Speaker 2: little bites. Yeah, it's crazy. Alright, what's our next? Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay Bucketeer, Tampa.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Chili's sounds right, I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know, Tampa.
Speaker 2: I heard beautiful place, Grudens because you got a steakhouse.
Speaker 4: I think you post where we're eating.
Speaker 6: We're reading at Gruden's house and we're talking like icy
Speaker 6: football were icy Icy?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, got me Arizona.
Speaker 2: I always try to whenever I'm in because I when
Speaker 2: I lived in Boston. Anytime I'm in a state that
Speaker 2: has any kind of Mexican population, I'm I'm sniffing out.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to. I'm on a search like National Treasure
Speaker 2: for like the mom and pop Mexican joint.
Speaker 4: That's what I want.
Speaker 2: Pop Mexican mom and pop Mexican joint rams. I like
Speaker 2: some enchiladas Enchiladas, like some Enchilado's, Bang Bang Niner Gang
Speaker 2: sour dough Baby, the San Francisco treat rice seahawks. He's
Speaker 2: just a nice big fish, catching, throwing, eating. But I
Speaker 2: would want that fish like a beautiful whatever fish they
Speaker 2: the specialty fishes. I just want a little salt and pepper,
Speaker 2: some lemon juice, olive oil around that bad boy. Then
Speaker 2: pack it in salt, and then you fucking bake that
Speaker 2: bad boy. Yes, shout out ken Orangers. We're talking little
Speaker 2: it used to be with like a brand Zeno. But
Speaker 2: I know they got some nice fresh fish over in
Speaker 2: the Northwest.
Speaker 4: Recently tossed salmon. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Those are pretty hard to catch there, like some given
Speaker 2: to it. I wonder I gotta go try it. I
Speaker 2: want to go try it, but I want to train
Speaker 2: for it. I want to go out there looking like
Speaker 2: a like a slap dick at your gloves. No, no gloves,
Speaker 2: but you gotta like I think it's you gotta bring
Speaker 2: it in. You gotta watch that bitch in.
Speaker 5: And then came Chancell will pop out and you.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Oh, thanks DoorDash.
Speaker 3: That was fun.
Speaker 4: Let's go eat that food. Well, what a game. Thanks
Speaker 4: again to Steve Smith Senior. You gotta get out there
Speaker 4: and play some golf with him.
Speaker 2: No, I fucking I would love to play golf with him. Actually,
Speaker 2: it made me think about golf in a different way.
Speaker 2: Very very connected to that, very connected to that. Let
Speaker 2: your mind just go.
Speaker 4: You know you're out there, You're out team. Don't bother me.
Speaker 4: Don't don't bother me.
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