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Speaker 2: The head's different. You know, you knock someone out, that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I got to the point where guys knew.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Games and Names presented by door Dash.

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Speaker 4: I'm Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 2: They're Jack and Kyler, and we're on a mission to

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Speaker 2: find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode,

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Speaker 2: we are covering the two thousand and three NFC Divisional

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Speaker 2: Round game between the Panthers and Rams with sixteen year

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Speaker 2: NFL AT five time pro bowler legendary Panther Steve Smith Senior.

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Speaker 1: Steve Smith, I hate it going against Revis. I just

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Speaker 4: What's it like having a walk off touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Once I got it, I was like, ain't nobody catching me?

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Speaker 4: You were fast? I kind of was.

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Speaker 2: A fun story with how he almost ended up becoming

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Speaker 3: Do you know how close I was?

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 4: You ready what happened to the trade.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to door Dash for helping us there. Let's go

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Speaker 4: to the Steve Smith interview. Let's get into this thing.

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Speaker 7: January tenth, two thousand and four, Edward Jones, don't Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers Rams are tied twenty three to twenty three,

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Speaker 7: A double overtime third and forty Dell home jobs back.

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Speaker 7: He's got Smith streaking down the field on the next clown.

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Speaker 3: This is next clown game. Why are you talk about that? Boys?

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Speaker 4: My dog? Do you do?

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Speaker 2: the two thousand and three NFC Divisional round game between

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Speaker 4: Steve Smith in one sentence, why did you pick this game?

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Speaker 3: You guys? That was the only game you guys gave me?

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Speaker 4: Is this the only game? Is this the only game

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Speaker 4: this game.

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Speaker 8: Jackson from North Carolina. This is when he was watching football.

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Speaker 8: He was, if we don't do this game, he's gonna

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Speaker 8: I'm not complaining, But you asked me, so I was.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you. You agree with Steve. I give him thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: So in one sentence, why is this game so impactful

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Speaker 3: Again? Because this is the only game you guys gave me?

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Speaker 4: The two throw interesting. I have to talk to the

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Speaker 1: See this is see when I do this, this is

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Speaker 1: Right, No, I because of my personality or like how

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Speaker 3: And the offense we were running that year was Dan Henney.

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Speaker 3: Because I high handled the ball.

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Speaker 4: So is this clown route? Is it like a bow post?

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Speaker 4: You was just a bow.

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Speaker 2: People people don't realize you were primarily an X like.

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Speaker 2: People try to put you in like categories where you

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Speaker 2: You could stack a guy, run away from a guy,

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Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy that it all stemmed back to the

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Speaker 4: I say, hey, you only hold it in your left

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Speaker 4: I think we got to put you at X.

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Speaker 3: It was it was a problems.

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Speaker 1: There was a problem, man my But the guy that

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Speaker 4: Right down the road. I run there, Yeah, it's ship.

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Speaker 1: Now your turf, yeah, Fred Graves. Yeah, at University of Utah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This is working. You're giving up the football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: How like, how I know you? You talk about it

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Speaker 4: Or is he Chad?

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Speaker 3: He was He's always been Chad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys went to the same juco. Now did

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Speaker 3: We we didn't like each other.

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Speaker 4: Nothing, that's about it? Small talk. I get it. I'm

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Speaker 4: not I get it. I get it. What's life looking

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Speaker 4: And we played twenty seventh. I pause. We played twenty

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Speaker 2: You just say, oh, he fucking assholes sucked off this

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: And at that time I did not want to go

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Speaker 4: And so what year was that?

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Speaker 2: Very insensitive, bro, whatever that was. I was just trying

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Speaker 2: It's true the truth billboards right now. No, the actor

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Speaker 1: I like playing, but I didn't love playing. I like

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00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: playing golf now. Man, it's like like it's it's my

447
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: wu saw Like I'm out on a golf course, good

448
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: badd and different.

449
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: One.

450
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: One of the one of.

451
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: The agreements that I have with myself on the golf course.

452
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Is I don't rush. If I'm rushing on the golf course,

453
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: I don't play. Now I go to driving range. But

454
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: on the golf course, if I'm playing eighteen, I'm playing eighteen.

455
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: If I play nine, I'm playing nine. I'm not playing

456
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: six out of the nine. I'm not playing ten out

457
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: of the eighteen. I'm playing eighteen. And man, I and

458
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: when I go play eighteen, bro, I got me some

459
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: snacks and crustaballs, water, drink kterade, whatever it is, and

460
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: I just chill. Now I'm gonna have me a fresh

461
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: pair of kicks on sock sures. It don't matter, Bro,

462
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. And so we're going on vacation, and

463
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: the wife should be like, hey, we're going to hear

464
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: here and questions. It used to be is there golf

465
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: course a golf course plumb, yes, golf course. And now

466
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: so now on the family vacation, it be my three boys.

467
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: We'll go play golf and then I'll get my wife

468
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: and my daughter they'll get the massage.

469
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: It sounds to me you found another outlet to compete

470
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: in and compete with yourself and give you that kind

471
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: of like you're investing something where you can see result

472
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: and you you've got you've got a chance to go

473
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: out and feel like you're you're competing. No, man, when

474
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm on a golf course, bro, even if you're not

475
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: doing that, but you're you're taking those mental reps and

476
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: those No.

477
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: For me, what playing on a golf course is actually

478
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: relaxing in regards of I'm not playing against you, and

479
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: it's the dang course, Like the course is beat me up,

480
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: and it's actually the only place that I kind of tiptoe.

481
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

482
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: Like I get a sandtrap, I'm like, oh my, I'm

483
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: scared because man, we could be here for four hits.

484
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 4: Or you know, or we're gonna hit that. You know,

485
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: we're gonna you know.

486
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna take that stroke. I'll walk up to

487
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: the sand trap like, oh, you're.

488
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: Gonna be cool. Two inches behind, open the stands, open

489
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: the face.

490
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I just so like for me, man, I just I

491
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: enjoy I enjoy the piece and quiet. It's why I

492
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: discover why I love country music. Yeah, so I'll be

493
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: bumping some country music.

494
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: My boys are like, who is this dude?

495
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.

496
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: I was out earlier this week I was out at

497
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: the driving range. I go this place in the valley

498
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: because they have grass. You hit off the grass. And

499
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and there's this there's this older dude

500
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: got a lawn chair and he goes and he takes

501
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: about eight balls and he chips a couple of balls

502
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: and then he comes back and then he sits in

503
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Speaker 2: his line chair and you hear him on the phone

504
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: for a second, and then goes back and he chips

505
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: like eight more like little chips. And this is a

506
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: huge ass driving range. Like I just got chipped right here.

507
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: I was like whatever. He comes over and he's going

508
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: to get a new new basket of balls. He goes,

509
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: hey baby, you need you need a basket. I'm like,

510
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: it's fucking Smokey Robinson. Smoking Robbinson brought a lawn chair

511
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: to this fucking this driving rage and he just sits

512
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: there and he's hitting chips. And I was like having

513
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 2: a rough day, and I went out to the driving

514
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: range to just kind of like chill and it made

515
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: my day. Like smoke your Obbinson. Just he's like, hey baby,

516
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: you need you need a basket of balls. I'm like, no, man,

517
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: go you smoking Robinson.

518
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, what's up, baby, I go, I met

519
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: you at the client you know, so that I met

520
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: him before.

521
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: He had no clue or anything, but it was so

522
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: fucking cool, and it's such an outlet I use as

523
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 2: an outlet as well. For me, it's to compete with

524
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: myself and try to put something into something like I

525
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: did when I was playing, and be able to see

526
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: some kind of result that's positive in my life.

527
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so somewhat. You know my wife.

528
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Again, if she sees it, she'll say, uh, just stay

529
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: in the shallow pool.

530
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: Stand in the shallow pool.

531
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: You go too deep. But for me, golf is not

532
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: an outlet in there.

533
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm playing golf and it's a time where

534
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: like it's uh, it's it's where I'm learning life, where

535
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: think about this. Or we playing nine holes, right and

536
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: you hit a Generally you either hit a good or

537
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: bad shot on the first hole and it sets the tone.

538
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: But it's somewhere in the middle you don't play very good.

539
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: So let's say whole three, you hit the whole two,

540
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: you get a par or God bless you, you get a burden.

541
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Circle boom hoole three or four you hit the ball

542
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: and it goes wide right and you start ye yelling

543
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: and cussing and you're getting upset.

544
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: I used to look at.

545
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: That and I'd be like, man, I don't threw a club.

546
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: I done got mad and I'm going And then it

547
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: hit me it was like, yo, two holes ago when

548
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: you got that birdie, you forgot and now you're complaining

549
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: that you can't find your ball, but you didn't actually

550
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: even appreciate the birdie.

551
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

552
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like it's a God moment is

553
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: going bro. Sometimes if you can find your ball, you

554
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: just need.

555
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: To be thankful.

556
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: That's my that's how we play.

557
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: But there's so many people who have this expectation that

558
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna play even golf and you ain't never played

559
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: even golf in your life. You are twenty two, Yeah

560
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: you are fourteen. I'm a fourteen to nine. I was

561
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: like twenty five. I've getting better and better, But sometimes

562
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: I just like going out there and remember what am

563
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: I doing? Going wrong?

564
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Oh?

565
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're trying to swing like you're hitting the baseball.

566
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh you're all upper body, and I use are you

567
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: going back? And so it's like golf of me is

568
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: the only time that I'm kind of tiptoeing and it's

569
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: great because it's like hmm and the kids are like, Yo,

570
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: who's this guy?

571
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: This pop?

572
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: Oh?

573
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: So, how is Steve Smith the golfer different than Steve

574
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Smith the football player?

575
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: That's why is it?

576
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 4: Do I call you senior?

577
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean I prefer all right, then.

578
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: It don't bother me. I just I'll just mess around.

579
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I quit playing Bro. It's like

580
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: it's too much. It's too much to be angry all

581
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: the time, right, to be miserable.

582
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: That's what I used to call I was in the

583
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: same mindset, Bro. I used to keep going, You're you're

584
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: preaching me, and so I was like, bro, And so

585
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: I was like to go backwards because people will be like, oh,

586
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: I know, you miss it.

587
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: Huh nah.

588
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 5: Bro.

589
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: Like the stuff that I would have to do to

590
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: get up for.

591
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: A football game, like I was. My boy was in

592
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: a car with me. I was he was like I

593
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: was showing him. I was playing all the songs I

594
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: used to listen to before I go out of.

595
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: The pre game ship, pre game pre after I do

596
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: my warm up. What is it?

597
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: It was young Buck.

598
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: Bang? What else was it?

599
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Yep?

600
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Black gloves, black mask, Biggie Tupac, like all that stuff

601
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: that was like super inappropriate. Like if my kids are

602
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: listening to it now, it's like we need to go,

603
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: we need to talk.

604
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

605
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: But and then I come out of the tone like ah,

606
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: and it was like my outlet.

607
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: Now it's like.

608
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't need that, bro, like I don't need.

609
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: To be takes a lot out of you. Yeah, it's exhausted.

610
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: It's very exhausting, right, Yeah.

611
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: The self motive, like you said, when you do it

612
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: for a long time, it becomes you, becomes you. But

613
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: it's also you know, like because of how good you played,

614
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: you always had a constant standard of what people looked

615
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: at you, and for you to go out and meet

616
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: that standard every week that you created because of your play.

617
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes when it's week eight, you're playing goddamn

618
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears that are fucking dog shit. It's hard to

619
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: get up sometimes when you're banged up, you know what

620
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to go out and create. I

621
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: would have to create stuff in my head to get

622
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: you up, and that's exhausting, you know.

623
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I would create my dislike for you in watching film. Yeah, I.

624
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Don't like the way he did that.

625
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: Right seat belt. They all do this. It's what about

626
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: but the little Superman cape? No, I was I never

627
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: really five nine. You can't never ever be Superman, you

628
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean? More Mighty Mouse, you know, like

629
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: people always say, like, oh, man, he's he has a

630
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: Napoleon complex.

631
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Man, I've been five to nine pretty much my whole life.

632
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty comfortable at my height.

633
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: You were so you were big five nine and since

634
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: you were young.

635
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't a big five now, I was like

636
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: five to five. I've been short my whole life. Yeah,

637
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: it hasn't bothered me.

638
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: Now i've been I do have hope for a gross

639
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: spurt because I've been wearing.

640
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: Well was that so funny? Though? Hey, I'm still waiting

641
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: on that thing too. Man, I'm five five still.

642
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: Bro.

643
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: Like when I was in like ninth grade, I was

644
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: wearing a nine, so my foot was going on. I

645
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: was like, can you imagine five six? We're in the

646
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: size eleven and a half size ten shoe and like

647
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm a size twelve and I can I never filled

648
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: in my shoes.

649
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he still might have a spurt there.

650
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. My son, one of my boys got it though,

651
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 3: my son Boston. He's six to two.

652
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: His name is Boston. Yeah, that's tight. Was what's the

653
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: story behind Boston.

654
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I just like to name what it was not a Jackson,

655
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: Boston and Noah. And there was a car salesman. We

656
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: were buying a car. He was a car salesman. His

657
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: name was Noah. Oh no, I'm sorry Jonah Jonah after

658
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: that transaction, Nope, took.

659
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: That name off the het. That's the film right there.

660
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: That's like when you watch film.

661
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: So I have to bring up, uh oh, the first

662
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: time I really started. I mean, I knew you as

663
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: a kid when I was playing not a kid. I

664
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: wasn't like that much, like seven years younger than you,

665
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: so whatever.

666
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: But it was when I got drafted by Scotty Oh,

667
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: Scotti O'Brien.

668
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: He made me sit with him at five o'clock in

669
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: the morning and he gave me the whole game plan

670
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: of what he would tell to thee the special teams

671
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: meeting that day.

672
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: So I had to sit in all the meetings and

673
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: he was sit and watch.

674
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: He made me watch punt returns of you and Medcalf

675
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: and he would sitting there.

676
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: I had to watch of Metcalf.

677
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scotty was Scottio is crazy.

678
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love him. Though I love Scottio, you like.

679
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Him probably not, I respect him.

680
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, he was so tough on me and just

681
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: the way he was, and I just, uh, I didn't

682
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: take that kind of coaching like as yay, yeah you

683
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: love me.

684
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: I took that as like side eye. Yeah, so I

685
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: kind of like.

686
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: He loved you, bro.

687
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: Bro, he didn't even know what.

688
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: Because he's like that, you know.

689
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: He was like he was like he's like that with

690
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Matthew Slater. Really Matthew Slater.

691
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: I love Matthew Slat, the.

692
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: Best human being in the world, bro.

693
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: But Scotty just.

694
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: He was tough on me, man, and just he just like, well,

695
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: I said, how can I describe Scotty.

696
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it's like a.

697
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Like onions, Like onions, how I mean you need it,

698
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: like if it's a burger, you need it on there,

699
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: but then when you bite into it, you're kind of like, oh, man,

700
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: too much onion, but.

701
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: You but if you take it all out, you're like, no,

702
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: I need some onions.

703
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: The onion can't be too thick, but it can't be

704
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: not not enough enough.

705
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can taste it when it's not there, Yeah,

706
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like, do I need this much?

707
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

708
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you go to a place

709
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: that's a little lazy that just cuts the onion straight

710
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: and hot, like it doesn't mince the onion or cut

711
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: the onion up where you have pieces of onion and

712
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: then you get the fat.

713
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: Chunk on it. Yeah.

714
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: It kind of like, Well, the reason why I say

715
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: that is so when he left Carolina he went to Miami. Yeah,

716
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: and Miami, which we've gotten over Sam Madison.

717
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: We played against each other.

718
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: And Scotty kind of made and like suggested Sam do

719
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: some things to get me riled up. And I knew

720
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: where it came from, and at that time I was

721
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: here only in my fifth year. Man, it kind of

722
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: hit my soul a little bit because a guy that

723
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I respected and admired, Scotti, and how he had them

724
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: do that, and so it just kind of was like

725
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: it kind of what it did, and I'm connected with

726
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: us now. It kind of traced back to growing up

727
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: to where so you can't trust people. See the people

728
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: you think that really are in your corner when they

729
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: move on, is how they they're He's instructing you. He's

730
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: instructing Sam to do a few things that indicse how

731
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: he really feels about you. Yeah, and so that was

732
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: like for me, it was like all right, it actually

733
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: for me, I got you.

734
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: I got you.

735
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: But my got you is I'm done thought done, not not.

736
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: Gone like the wind.

737
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: No, like man, damn saying what happened now? Yeah, take

738
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: a moment, people moving?

739
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty crazy, pretty crazy?

740
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 4: I was awkward. You like getting people awkward?

741
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: No, bro, I just realized, like I just you.

742
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 4: Like people walking around you on eggshells. You love it.

743
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: I actually I don't. I don't.

744
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: It sucks because there's a lot of assumptions. There's a

745
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of assumptions about you. I know what you're thinking,

746
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: really how that's amazing. I don't even know myself, but

747
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: you do unique wow. Interesting. So I don't. It's it's

748
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: one of those things where I've created this whole persona

749
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: that people actually think they know me and they don't.

750
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: And the reason I say is because I'm discovering myself

751
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: of little things about myself.

752
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Said earlier in the fucking interview, I know them, but

753
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know them.

754
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 4: But I know them but I know clearly. I don't

755
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 4: clearly I don't.

756
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Nah, but it's like now that I'm done playing, a

757
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys that hit me up or they like

758
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: what's up, bro, and I'm like nothing. And when I

759
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: come up to them, it was like like wow, because

760
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: when I played, like I didn't talk to anybody. I mean,

761
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: how many times we've been on same field and I

762
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: was You'd be like hey, and I'm and then I

763
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: go back and I was like, man, I miss opportunity.

764
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: Like Bro, one of the craziest things, Jews.

765
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: I loved your game, Yeah, Bro, just the way you played,

766
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: how you played, how they took you from quarterback and

767
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: then the receiver, and how like all these people old this,

768
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: he came out of.

769
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: Nowhere knowing how much you grind and all that stuff.

770
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: Man, and hell of a football player, your acrement, understanding

771
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: how how to do things, set up the corner, set

772
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: up to play, knowing that your quarterback is very high strung.

773
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: It has a huge, huge threshold and responsibility and expectation.

774
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: You met that every single day with practice in preparation,

775
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: and you did it in a game. And so like,

776
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I love And when I look at players now at

777
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: the age I'm at, like I can actually look at

778
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: their game and I admire, but I also look at

779
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: it in my head as an athlete what they need

780
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: to work on. Yeah, because I believe that defensive players

781
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: have they have they know your deficiencies, the good ones, yes,

782
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: and the scout. So I believe that you have to

783
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: know what you're not good at, like.

784
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: If they know it, you need to know without a doubt.

785
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: And so like you know, so sometimes I come across

786
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: as a hater, but it's more of like, well, we

787
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: all know what the cake tastes like with all the

788
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: ingredients cook perfectly, but do we know what the cake

789
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: tastes like when you're missing the bacon, soda.

790
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: It's a little floppy, it's a little nasty. It's nasty.

791
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: It's true. I agree with that. It's tough to be

792
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: in on TV and promoting the game, and we have

793
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: to be real without hurting people's feelings.

794
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know I was promoting the game.

795
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: Well just in general.

796
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: They're still figuring that part out.

797
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what I mean exactly.

798
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: So, uh So I grew I played with you remember

799
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: Anthony magazine man, I played with him in college.

800
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: Okay, and then I went back to quarterback quarterback.

801
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little Mags, a little Max. He used to

803
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: be they used to all be in practice.

804
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 4: Man.

805
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was telling me some stories about me. Yeah,

806
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: he goes, I go, I got Steve coming on. I

807
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: remember you used to talk that he was close with

808
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: your family because he you know, he said, you.

809
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: Guys are very close, very close, very love you.

810
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: Oh man, his family and Mags passed away, man.

811
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: And you went and he it meant the world that

812
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: you went to that funeral.

813
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: Well, because that's who he was. Man.

814
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: It was unfortunate, but like we used to have a

815
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: true When Anthony graduated high school, me and Jake were at.

816
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: His uh his graduation party at at.

817
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 4: Thomas playing hoops.

818
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah all the time. Oh, absolutely dominating kids.

819
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: And then he said, he said, you and Dell are

820
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 2: you and mccount Yeah? Played in a flag of football

821
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: fucking league. Yeah man, uh man, Josh, here was my quarterback.

822
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I was receiving, played a little dB two, was clamping them,

823
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: clamping them.

824
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: Now, what were you did you get? He said?

825
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: I rebroke my arm that I already had broke.

826
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 4: You couldn't get enough on it? Is this an off season?

827
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: It was off season.

828
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: So what makes you sign up for a fucking y

829
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: m c A just fucking to have fun, to go

830
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: fucking compete against my mother?

831
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: What made you sign up to go play this? Well,

832
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: first of all, I had donated. So we're playing on

833
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: field eighty nine, so I.

834
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: Mean it's your field, my field.

835
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: I just liked playing. I just loved playing football.

836
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: And I always felt playing flag helped me in tackle

837
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: because it helps you process spacing, thinking fast.

838
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: Right, So I was just playing. It was just chilling.

839
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: Maga said, he got in so much trouble because when

840
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: you got hurt, big pop Mags fucking yell let him

841
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: chewt him out. He's like, you knew you couldn't have

842
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: him playing. He's like, I'm not gonna we can't play

843
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: out there. I just still couldn't believe you were playing flag.

844
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: I was having fun too. How many games did you play?

845
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 4: This was his multiple game? Was this like a weekly

846
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: like prep? It was a spring league? Was playing in

847
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: the spring. How was Joshua count of the field.

848
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh, josh is a heck of athlete.

849
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: He could light it up.

850
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was playing wide receiver. I was playing quarterback too, Yeah, yeah, safety, linebacker, balling.

851
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: We have fun.

852
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Olympics in the flag

853
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: football if you were playing, if you were in your

854
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: prime and the Olympics had a flag football, would you

855
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: try to play?

856
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: I would, and then I probably wouldn't be on the

857
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: team because just too intense.

858
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have loved that would be insane to

859
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: go and try to get gold medal?

860
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: Is the games completely Is it different though? Or is

861
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: it the same?

862
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: Like?

863
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: Is the flag is like the lead the flag LEAs

864
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: now it's it's a lot of laterals. It's it's pretty good,

865
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: like it's some they be running some plays they can

866
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: play now to say now, I would say, there was

867
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: the guy talking about he's just good as Patrick Mahomes

868
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: that that remember the quarterback? Yes, yeah, I no, you

869
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: ain't like everybody was letting that slide. No, he ain't

870
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: not even close. Bro, I don't care what he's saying

871
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: that he can do it, and and God bless him,

872
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I believe him.

873
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: He ain't.

874
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: He ain't could could Patrick go and not even know

875
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: the rules of that?

876
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know, but I know that dude is

877
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: not as good as Patrick Mahons.

878
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. You're not you're not like it's

879
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: what we do.

880
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: Like you know this whole debate can football players play basketball?

881
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: But I don't think so. I can dribble the ball.

882
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: I can dribble, it doesn't mean I can play in

883
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: the NBA.

884
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

885
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: I found out very quickly that I'm not a good

886
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: basketball player.

887
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: I had an accident with an accident. I found out

888
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't play.

889
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: How can you what what was the accident?

890
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: The accident was me trying out for who high school?

891
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: What? So? How can you explain the scenario?

892
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: This wasn't very good. Just it was I was not

893
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: a basketball player.

894
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 4: You just too physical?

895
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: No, bro, I just was not a good basketball player.

896
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I did not have all the key fundamentals of being

897
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: a good basketball player, like scoring points.

898
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't like I was a football player.

899
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: I played a lot of basketball, but I was always

900
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: a football player playing in basketball.

901
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: I was just quick. I could steal the ball.

902
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: I never had the I never knew basketball like the

903
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: vision like I didn't know.

904
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: It didn't come close to.

905
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 2: Me, like on when you're running a route or when

906
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: you're on the football field and you're setting someone up.

907
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know the cutting that well. It just didn't

908
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: come to me.

909
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think everybody can play. Everybody's without

910
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: a doubt. They think they can and ask grat not me.

911
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. What's up? Everyone?

912
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: Football is in full swing and you know what that means,

913
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914
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916
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917
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918
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919
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920
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,480
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921
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,520
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922
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923
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924
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925
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926
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927
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929
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930
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931
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: day favorites. Well, let's go back into time around when

932
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: the game happened. This is a segment where we talk

933
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: about pop culture. This game took place. On January tenth,

934
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, the number one movie was Lord

935
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: of the Rings Return of the King, Lord of the

936
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: Ring Guy.

937
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah you like that one?

938
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Me and my wife are actually rewatching it

939
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: so we could watch the series.

940
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on Amazon right, Yeah, I've tried to watch.

941
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 4: It's tough.

942
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: Outcast, outcast. Okay, are you a big boy orre you Andre?

943
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: Three thousand?

944
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: Both both both like because they were outcasts at that time.

945
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

946
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was.

947
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: I was in Height, I was in call uh prom

948
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: and that song that was this song was out.

949
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: So when you were going, uh, that's what you took

950
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: out Jerry Rice's uh yeah.

951
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: Exat we were like. Picture was.

952
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Britney Spears has her surprise wedding after tying the not

953
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: with the backup singers at the backup singer.

954
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: This was the Yeah, the backup dancer, backup dancer.

955
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 5: Jack for what I think like her tours only lasted

956
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: fifty five hours.

957
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy times.

958
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: Big Fish, along came Paulie and you got served. Were

959
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: all popping off in the yeah along King Poly Did

960
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: you watch movies when you played or you just straight

961
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: ball guy? Or did you go you have ball and

962
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: then you went home and just was like family, what

963
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: was your how were you back in twenty two thousand

964
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: and four?

965
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I watched movies. I watched a lot of them. I

966
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: still watch movies. I mean I grew up. Where you

967
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: go you know that goes to the video store you

968
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: rented out, you know Blockbuster?

969
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: Like that was a big time bro Friday night, Yeah, Saturday.

970
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Or like uh like Christmas, break Man, go rent Mario

971
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: three when the little uh when he was the right cool?

972
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? And that was three with the when he got

973
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: the Flower or the leaf? Yeah, I love that.

974
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I was.

975
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now when you went home in twenty fourteen, like

976
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, what kind of guy were you

977
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: in the locker room? Like like what how did you

978
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: get away from the game? Or were you all like

979
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: during football season? Was it football season always? Because for

980
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: me I was football. Everyone knew it was football. I

981
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: had like an hour where I would play video games

982
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: kind of catch up with my boys over the internet

983
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: before I would do like.

984
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: Shit, Internet wasn't that good back in two thousand?

985
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: Was dial up?

986
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

987
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah? Baby?

988
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: Was I had ah.

989
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: That zero net zero?

990
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't even remember it. My parents were I was

991
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: still a kid there. Wow, you were like an adult. Bro.

992
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: You's seven years older than.

993
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 4: Me at this time.

994
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: So in this year, yeah, how old are you in

995
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and four? Uh, twenty twenty three, I was

996
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: like seventeen. It's kind of different slightly. You're making millions

997
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: of dollars in the NFL. I was still I was.

998
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: I was under my parents.

999
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: Bro, I was.

1000
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: I remember two thousand and four, that was one twenty nine.

1001
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: Oh see you remember that was one twenty nine, one

1002
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine thousand. I remember that first check.

1003
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: I was shocked and surprised. I think thirty five hundred dollars.

1004
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: I said, who's check? Is this? Surprised? Why it was

1005
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: three thousand dollars? Is that a lotter? Is that?

1006
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: No?

1007
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: That was not the the dream I was sold. I

1008
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: was like, who says, where's the rest of my money?

1009
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1010
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: So it was one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars

1011
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: for rookies, Like my whole when I got driving, my

1012
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: whole check was not complaining.

1013
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: So take this complaint.

1014
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: But when you say everybody's a millionaire and then you

1015
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: get a check and it ain't no millions on there?

1016
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: Where are they at where they're.

1017
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: At, and I think my whole contract is like one

1018
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: point two. I got my signing bones was five hundred thousand.

1019
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: It was three seventy five. That thing was tricky.

1020
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1021
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: I was seventh, three hundred and forty nine grand to

1022
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: my name bro forty nine grand I had.

1023
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 4: I thought I was rich.

1024
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: Six grand I had to pay seventy five thousand, So

1025
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: I had six grand left April sixteenth, after.

1026
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: My rookie year. Yeah, I blew it. He learned though, right, Yeah,

1027
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: I learned.

1028
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 4: Good, good good.

1029
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: In the sports world, Patriots went on to win the

1030
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Peyton Manning and Air McNair where the m

1031
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: v P loves Steven is one of my fucking favorites.

1032
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: White, Jason White.

1033
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: He hasn't done anything since.

1034
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: Since USC won the Natty.

1035
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: Now you grew up around here, how come you Did

1036
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: you ever have dreams of going to u C l

1037
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: A or USC. No, they didn't recruit short people. Yeah.

1038
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get it. I just wanted to

1039
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: go to go anywhere.

1040
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1041
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: So my two options was sam Houston State, San Jose

1042
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and Utah. Yeah, and then Sam Houston State decided that

1043
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't eligible, which is interesting. But I was eligible

1044
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: for Utah, but it wasn't for Sam Houston State and

1045
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: then San Jose State was kind of like where everybody went.

1046
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Uh that was from West LA and all that stuff

1047
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: and a track record with UH. That was kind of

1048
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: like going back. It was kind of like going back

1049
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: to californ you know, going back to high stood.

1050
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, turn worn out, turned out really good.

1051
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: This was the year the Ravens swept the Defensive Award

1052
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: or the awards. Ray Lewis with Defensive Player of the Year,

1053
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: Turell Sugs with Today's his birthday, Happy birthday, and Jamal Lewis,

1054
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: who was a fucking didn't you have three hundred yards

1055
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: this year?

1056
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 4: I believe, So let me check on that. What was

1057
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: it like playing with the Ravens.

1058
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: It was dope, a good time.

1059
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

1060
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: I got close with Ray a little bit when we

1061
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: did inside the NFL.

1062
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was that was after I was doing

1063
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 3: inside of the NFL.

1064
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: Too, probably, so I kicked the.

1065
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you don't.

1066
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: I did not know you did not.

1067
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that offense, we guess it. But

1068
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 3: Ray hilarious.

1069
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: So you come from the Panthers, Yes, you were part

1070
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: of being a huge foundational piece. I'm making that organization relevant.

1071
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: That was an expansion team when I was a kid,

1072
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 2: and then you guys went to the Super Bowl, competed,

1073
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: fucking played your guys nuts off a bunch. When you

1074
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: go to the Ravens, they're in this era doing the

1075
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: same thing.

1076
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 3: Yes, Ray was already gone.

1077
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Sis was there, Elvis Duomerville, Chris Canty and reed uh

1078
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: Ed was already gone.

1079
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 4: Was he gone? Yeah?

1080
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: I remember because when I was in Carolina he was

1081
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: with the Jets.

1082
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. So it didn't look right. Texans too,

1083
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: Texans too and so.

1084
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: But it was great because I was just at a

1085
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 3: place I just you know, I.

1086
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Just need a new scenior. I wanted to know what

1087
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: it was like and loved the city. City City still

1088
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: shows me. Love goes out there. My daughter Baylor, she's

1089
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: a huge Ravens fan. Like yeah, she like she loves them, bro,

1090
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy.

1091
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: It's because of you.

1092
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: She's got into football.

1093
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: My son, my oldest Peyton, started getting her into fantasy

1094
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: and he created a monster like she's at like when

1095
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: we're at the house and we're watching, she's I'm watching.

1096
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: I watched two games at a time because I like

1097
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: to see the game. She's like, yo, change it, and

1098
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: she's watching four, and I like, I can't watch four.

1099
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: I need two.

1100
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too too much. You don't do this the

1101
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 4: new what is it YouTube TV? Where you split the box.

1102
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's split it in a four. I like to

1103
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: split it in the two.

1104
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: I do three on the one o'clock games with the

1105
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: red zone. Yeah, and then I go reback and I

1106
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: and then I watch I'll like do the condensed versions,

1107
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: like of the games.

1108
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 3: We really need to see forty six minutes?

1109
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty six or you hit like the highlights and

1110
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 2: then you hit some of the forty six.

1111
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yeah?

1112
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: I do.

1113
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: I generally I watched half of them and then on

1114
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: a Monday, Monday morning, I'll get up and then what

1115
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: I started doing is during Sundays, actually walk on the

1116
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: treadman watch the game.

1117
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1118
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: Now I heard you you watch you still watching film?

1119
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: Where I getting that from? Who do you watch film with?

1120
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: I heard myself?

1121
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: I remember there was was there a few Did you

1122
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: just do a feature or you're watching still watching film?

1123
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: Or you were talking about it? Oh?

1124
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1125
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: On my podcast eighty nine, I think, so yeah, yeah,

1126
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: So I watch film on guys, like I'll try to

1127
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: like look and see what's going on, just because you

1128
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: know how you watch the game and you're like, something's

1129
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: wrong here, what's going on? And so I'll go back

1130
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: and then I'll go back and look. So what I

1131
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: generally do is if I see something, I'm like, I'll

1132
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: just write myself a note and then I'll go back

1133
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: and watch it, and then i'll at the research, and

1134
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: the research confirms my intuition. Sometimes the research is like nah, bro,

1135
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: you off okay again? Yeah, and so that's what that's

1136
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: what I ended up doing. So I'll look at a guy,

1137
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: see it, and then I'll go back and study him,

1138
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: and then i'll get and I'm kind of weird with numbers,

1139
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of like, okay, let me see how

1140
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: many times he was lined up outside? Who well, when

1141
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: he was targeted? Was it on the number two? Why

1142
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: was a corner or the number one corner?

1143
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: You know? Was it on the top tier?

1144
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: Guy?

1145
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: Was it on the bottom tier?

1146
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you bothering against the number two, but you're

1147
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: getting them clamps on, you know. So I look at

1148
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, you know, averaged up to target.

1149
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: What is the quarterback rating when targeted? What's your how

1150
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: far are you going? What's your yack? How many first

1151
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: downs have you really helped the team get? How many mistackles?

1152
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: So I try to see, like what about that individual

1153
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: his his game is good or you needs to work on.

1154
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: And I just that's just kind of how I look

1155
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: at him.

1156
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: Who are some of the guys that impress you right

1157
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: now in the league? Give me two you two.

1158
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: Two guys that you look at You're like, that dude's

1159
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: a bad motherfucker.

1160
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson.

1161
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 4: What makes him so well?

1162
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: His his length and the way he moves his breaks

1163
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks the offense he end Uh,

1164
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: he's mastered it.

1165
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: He knows exactly what to do.

1166
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1167
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: He can change up his tempo so well. His releases

1168
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: off the charts.

1169
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 3: But then I.

1170
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Also favor because I was old guy. I favored the

1171
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: old guys too, Like so I still think Davante Adams

1172
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: is still that guy. He's not gonna he's never been

1173
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: a four to three guy, but his releases are remarkable.

1174
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: Just the way he does his hands, ball placement, catch, radius,

1175
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: body control, tempo, sudden burst, really good sudden burst and

1176
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: then his his his creativity to stack you even though

1177
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 1: he's not faster than you, So just him being able

1178
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: to use his leverage.

1179
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: So like, I look at that.

1180
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: But then there's other guys I think that that are

1181
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: promising who have the ability.

1182
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: Who's someone that you think that kind of reminds you

1183
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: of you? If there's anyone, see, So people ask that and.

1184
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: Hard to do that. So the reason why I.

1185
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm not judging you, The reason why I have a

1186
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: hard time answering that question is because I also remember

1187
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be a far front draft pick.

1188
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: I was also told I was just a returner. So

1189
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: now that I'm done playing, everybody's like, oh, he minds me.

1190
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: You But when I was playing, people didn't like me,

1191
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: and so you didn't like me. And then there's you know,

1192
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: we read our stuff on there and they're like, oh,

1193
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, people like, oh, Steve was just a slow receiver,

1194
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: and really it was I didn't know that. I think

1195
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: the game has changed, but I also think there are

1196
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: players out there who I don't remind me of myself,

1197
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: because I think they are significantly better. I played the

1198
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: way I played because I was obviously I did like

1199
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have quick feet like Chad like I can do.

1200
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't do great cone drills. I round in my routes.

1201
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: I never ran the right I never ran the same

1202
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: route the same way. So they were things that I

1203
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: did that I used as my advantage. But I ran

1204
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: my routes kind of add like I was never consistent

1205
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: on doing things.

1206
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: I did it my way.

1207
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but I was really just kind of like

1208
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: covering for the fact that man, I was just playing

1209
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: on hope of the prayer. Yeah, and so that's just

1210
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: kind of like, I know I was playing with house money, right,

1211
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: I know that, So just roll the dice, say, man,

1212
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: put all the chips in. So when I go across

1213
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: the middle and I know I'm gonna get hit, you

1214
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: got a choice to get hit with the ball, oh

1215
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: without the ball. And so a few times like all right,

1216
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I get hit with the ball. Now I get up

1217
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you know a guy used to

1218
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: hit me and he'd be like, oh, what you want

1219
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: with that? And so I started getting up like if

1220
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: you think you crazy, I'm crazier. And so it was

1221
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: more like the feed into like to intimidate and show bro,

1222
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm be here all day.

1223
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: Your best didn't hurt me, No, and.

1224
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Then I'll get and then old school football, so then

1225
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: I'll go. And I really didn't like blocking, but it

1226
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I got a block, and so

1227
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: it was like they're gonna hit me, so I can

1228
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: hit them. So I really would block and just kind

1229
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: of lean and I realized with my leverage and the

1230
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: way the angles, I can hit them. And then it

1231
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I could tee off. And so

1232
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: then you know, a guy hits you, or he'll be

1233
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: talking and then they'll run, you know the uh toss crack,

1234
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you hit me.

1235
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: Or so I'll run and then come back and I

1236
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: get the corner.

1237
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or I can hit this. I can hit this

1238
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: linebacker that's chasing. You're going to chase her. It's a

1239
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: bigger hit.

1240
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm gonna and I'm trying to knock his

1241
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: helmet off. But I would hit him. I would hit

1242
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: him up high. I always respect the game. I never

1243
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: hit a dude down low. If I hit you down low,

1244
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: that was because I didn't respect you. But if I

1245
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: didn't respect you, that means also because you hit me

1246
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: down load. So we have no regards of each other's career.

1247
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: So guess what, let's do it there?

1248
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: Head is different. You know, you knock someone out, that's

1249
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: that's considered a kiss. You're taking out knees, that's considered

1250
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: a career.

1251
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so I got to the point where guys knew.

1252
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, i'mna hit you up top if

1253
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: you hit me low again or you cheap shot me.

1254
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: I got one question for you.

1255
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: When I cut you and they gotta do surgery, My

1256
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: question is what kind of flowers you want to send you?

1257
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: They look at me, just let me.

1258
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Know, don't And you see they go back to the

1259
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: huddle and they're trying to They're trying to decide do

1260
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: I really want to go there with them?

1261
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking they're designing tulips or roses?

1262
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1263
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 5: Nah.

1264
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: They was like really thinking, like, bro, where do you

1265
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: come up with?

1266
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: Like did you you've thought that before?

1267
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

1268
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've said that before. Oh absolutely.

1269
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: Now is this spur of the moment ship talking where

1270
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: it just comes to you or are you like a

1271
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: poet where you have a couple of these you've you've

1272
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: thought about these situations, you have a couple on the

1273
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: tool belt for when you see him.

1274
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: Say, is is this just free free burden?

1275
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: It's just some of it, just like some of them.

1276
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm kind of embarrassed that I like said that. I

1277
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: was like, dang, that was bad.

1278
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: What's the most embarrassing?

1279
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: So I remember Stuart was telling me one time, Jonathan

1280
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: Stewart he had played with one of the DB's that

1281
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: were out there, and so the dB had did something

1282
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: and I just was like held him down and I

1283
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: held him down until the referee came and Grabbler and

1284
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: Stewie said, man, why'd you do that?

1285
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 4: Steve?

1286
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: What did he do? And Bro, just like I was

1287
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: just like he was born. He was like, hold up

1288
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: because he was born.

1289
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: Bro.

1290
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: That was just the first thing came out of my

1291
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: head because I didn't have a legitimate excuse. He was

1292
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: like everybody's born. But then I was like, I have

1293
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: my head down, but I'm not engaging in that. That

1294
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: was my answer. Okay, accept it or don't accept it.

1295
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: But that was the kind of dumb stuff I said

1296
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: and did.

1297
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's you.

1298
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: But you know how he didn't finish a game, Bro,

1299
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: that is you gotta put it out a goddamn T shirt.

1300
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 4: Is it? You got it on a T shirt yet?

1301
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got some dude trademarked it and offered it

1302
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: to me.

1303
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: I watched it, and I remember as a kid, I

1304
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: remember when we played against each other. And but you

1305
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: have some fucking straight poems out there with how you

1306
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: talk shit to fools right on the spur of the

1307
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: moment postgame interviews anything. I was sitting there like this,

1308
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: motherfucker should be a rapper. You should be a fucking rapper.

1309
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: You spit like nine right after a game.

1310
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 4: The story. It's some kind of funny ass way of

1311
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: doing it. You should.

1312
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: You should have a marketing company or something appreciate it.

1313
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: It's fucking gnarly, Jackie. Let's get into the game. Should

1314
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: you talk about these rams? Real quick? Real quick?

1315
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 5: This is the twelve and four rams. Mike Martz, Lovey

1316
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: Smith leading that defense. Uh, Steve Fairchild the OC. This year,

1317
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 5: Mark Bulger took over for Kurt Warner.

1318
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 4: This year he got Kurt warnered.

1319
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 5: You got Kurt warnered six fumbles in the first game

1320
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 5: and was a little banged up coming off a seven.

1321
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 4: Is that why he went to the glove?

1322
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: I think it will because he went to the glove

1323
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: after this year in New York for the first time,

1324
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: then kept it when he went to Arizona.

1325
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 4: We'll get into it.

1326
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 5: I think we got to do a little, but I'm

1327
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 5: pretty sure he told us that when he was on waver.

1328
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 4: I trusted a quarterback with the glove.

1329
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: I never trust a football player wearing ASEX. I've seen several.

1330
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. You just can't trust

1331
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: a man, just a football player wearing ASEX in practice.

1332
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: It's a weird brand to see on the field, I'll

1333
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: tell you that.

1334
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 5: And a big story with this team was the home

1335
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 5: win streak eight no at home fourteen game home win

1336
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 5: streak coming into this game. The offense this is like

1337
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 5: late era greatest ye one turf, but still led the

1338
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 5: NFL in scoring almost twenty eight points a game. Five

1339
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 5: Hall of famers on this team. You got Marshall Falk,

1340
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 5: Orlando Pace, William Kurt and Isaac Bruce. Tory Holt should

1341
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 5: be in What do you think, Steve.

1342
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce. Isaac went

1343
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: to Santa Monica. Yeah yeah, dude.

1344
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: Mike Ferry, what did you now when you played and

1345
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: you played against guys like this group pre game?

1346
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: Did you Brandham? Uh, I'm not gonna butcher his name. Well, yeah,

1347
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: he went to Arizona. He was a big boy, eighty

1348
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: six tight end. He was huge, huge.

1349
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: But when you would play against a guy like Tory

1350
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: JL or Isaac Bruce, I used to watch him bro

1351
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: we watching Oh definitely, yeah.

1352
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean Isaac went to Utah, he went to Santa

1353
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: Monica and like we always knew, like so it was

1354
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: like I was like, wow, Like, man, I remember my

1355
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: rookie year.

1356
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 4: We played.

1357
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: Saint Louis Ramsy.

1358
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: We were one to fifteen and Marshall was out there

1359
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: just he was just like he had one hundred and

1360
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty yards. At halftime, Trump candidate came in and I

1361
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: was standing up watching. I was like, dang, I was

1362
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: like a fan. Yeah, he was getting molly wopped. I

1363
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: was just just watching him.

1364
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: Marshall fulk was unreal. I watched him in this, we

1365
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 4: watched the game.

1366
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: He was so dope.

1367
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: Now, yes, Christian mccaffee or Marshall fault because they're kind

1368
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: of that same player.

1369
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: They're both the focal point of that offense. Now they are.

1370
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 4: But San Francisco runs it more though.

1371
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: I like both. But I'm just be honest with you.

1372
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm favorite of Marshall because I grew up in California

1373
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: knowing Marshall.

1374
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 3: Is from San Diego State.

1375
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: Like this dude, like Isaac kan is on this team, right, No,

1376
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: he was, he would he had actually went to New

1377
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: Orleans by then, but Isaac King went to Fairfax. I

1378
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: went to UNI, right, So it's like, like, these are

1379
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: guys on this team that like I grew up morning.

1380
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: I remember, Bro, I'm friends with Johnathan Ogden. I remember

1381
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: seeing Johnathan Ogden with that afro walking at Third Street

1382
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: prom when I was a kid at University High School. Yeah, Bro,

1383
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: I met I'm at uh Stokely at the super Bowl

1384
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Bro, it was like I used to have

1385
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: the Stokely eighty three uh forty nine ers. Yeah, Like

1386
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: so for me going to get some of these dudes, man,

1387
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: I was they got?

1388
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: I was?

1389
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: It was dope.

1390
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: Man.

1391
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: So going into this game though, did they still have that?

1392
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: They were they still like the big dogs the NFC,

1393
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: and you guys were still not like were you knocking?

1394
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: Were you the hungry guys and they were kind of

1395
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: like that or were you guys not intimidated, but like,

1396
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: was it like a feat to beat these these guys

1397
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: at this time were fucking flying high now they were,

1398
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: but we felt that we you know, we just were tough. Yeah,

1399
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: it was a tough team.

1400
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 4: Ran the ball. You had you and Mohammed.

1401
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Slick Rick slick Rick Ricky pro was on there. Oh Dad,

1402
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: damn look you know, damn looker. Uh, Tommy Polly, I

1403
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: remember Tommy pop. It was Tommy Polly. And then before

1404
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: that they had uh Brandon ba Brandon Allen who it

1405
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: was out of Tommy Polly and Brandon Allen they had

1406
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: actually drafted those two guys instead of me, uh that year.

1407
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And so then they had Travis Fisher twenty two.

1408
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: He was a corner. He was from uh University of

1409
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: Central Florida. Uh, Fred Warner, he Fred Weary, he was

1410
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: he had played with New Orleans so he was a

1411
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: special team guy. So I went against him.

1412
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: And then Nis Williams he was he was great, knew him,

1413
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: I saw him recently.

1414
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1415
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean a lot of these guys.

1416
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 4: Were you Rams fan at all growing up because they

1417
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 4: were there.

1418
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: You're a forty same here for my dog's name of

1419
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: Dwight and Montana. Really yeah, I love the Niners. I

1420
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: love him too, man, Jerry Rice freaking JJ Stokes t

1421
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: o but be careful, Roger Craig Roger huh hey. Ricky Waters,

1422
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters was a monster. Charlie Gardner back in the day.

1423
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: Charlie wasn't the Raiders. Don't hear with the Eagles too,

1424
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: and he went to the Eagles those Niners teams Ken

1425
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: Norton when he beat up the bag and they went

1426
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 2: to I hate him because he went to Dallas Cowboys.

1427
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 9: Uh.

1428
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: Morton Hanks, Burton Hanks, he was he find guy, Tim

1429
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: McDonald did you ever find you? Burton Hanks? I used

1430
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: to trying to sunk up to him so much good

1431
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: to be nice to the find guy. I'd be over

1432
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: throw a ball in the stands. You get an eight

1433
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine Merton Hanks. I'm like, yo, bro, like

1434
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: you remember you used to do the little next Yeah

1435
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: it was cool, dude, Like he wouldn't give me no

1436
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: money back, like slap it.

1437
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 4: We're laughing. Jordy Nelson's a fine guy now.

1438
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: Now Jordy Nelson's Jordy Nelson is a fine guy.

1439
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 3: Wow, that's unique.

1440
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 4: We just randomly saw that the other name. We're laughing. Yeah,

1441
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 4: let's Jackie break down the Panthers.

1442
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 5: Panthers squad eleven and five, second year of the John

1443
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 5: Fox era. It's just two years removed from a one

1444
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 5: in fifteen season. That was the end of the George

1445
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 5: seafferd era. Speaking the Niners, Uh, Jordan Gross's rookie season,

1446
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 5: Steve's third year, top ten defense Jake Diloane replaced Rodney

1447
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 5: Pete week one, that Jacksonville game, and the rest is history.

1448
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 4: The best damn Sports show Rodney Pete, like that show.

1449
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: John Sally, Sally, Chris Rose, Chris.

1450
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,440
Speaker 4: Show, Rock bro in Fox Sports.

1451
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 5: Uh, Steve had a thousand yard receiving season his first.

1452
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 5: This was also the keep pounding season with with Sam Mills.

1453
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 5: Uh so that was that was a big narrative throughout

1454
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 5: the season. But uh yeah, really right, the redular the

1455
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 5: ship quick after a one in fifteen season.

1456
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Now, how'd you guys turn around? How would you describe

1457
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: this Panther's era.

1458
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 4: We were kind of surprised.

1459
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: How well, like when you look at the roster man,

1460
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: just looking at the roster of these names, Rod Smart,

1461
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 1: he hate me Kevin Dyson.

1462
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: He was a first round draft pick. They kent.

1463
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans drafted him over or before. Randy Moss,

1464
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: Carl Hankedon Big Bank. He was from New Orleans. Make

1465
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: you say Muss and Muhammad, Ricky pro myself fifty two

1466
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: linebacker Brian Allen. He was actually drafted by the Saint

1467
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: Louis Rams. Will Willerspoon Leicester Towns. He was linebacker. Hammer feet.

1468
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: He had some bad feet. Greg Greg favors. He was

1469
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: pretty good. Vinnie Churchill was a great UH special teams guy.

1470
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: Colin Branch he was pretty good. Gerro Cooper from Kansas.

1471
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: He was especially in guys. Tecuz was an acquisition from

1472
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Dion Grant h d G was great. He

1473
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: was a safety. Will Hamilton he was pretty good. Reggie Howard,

1474
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: he's from Memphis. Ricky Mannuels from UCLA. Mike Minner big

1475
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: Man was hit you.

1476
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: Till Man. He was kind of there.

1477
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: Dante Wesley he was a special teams guy from Historical

1478
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: Black College, Al Wallace who acquired him from the Miami Dolphins.

1479
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 1: He was actually a school teacher. Mike Rucker went to Nebraska.

1480
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: Ken rash Mussen was pretty darn good.

1481
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: He ended up going to Seattle and now he's a

1482
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: fireman back in Charlotte obviously.

1483
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 4: Julius Peppers. Kendall moorehead is a He is now a

1484
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 4: strength coach.

1485
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: I think at Alabama for a long time. Chris Jenkins,

1486
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: big jank, he had went on and went to uh

1487
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: the Jets. Heck of athletic dude. Brencha Buckner. He was

1488
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: an acquisition for the Samisipsco forty nine ers. Shane Burton was

1489
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: a guy journeyman. He was pretty good. He had blocked

1490
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of kicks. Matt Willing. You still see him

1491
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: now on on commercials. He was a big six seven

1492
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: six ' eight guy who was also knock knee. Todd

1493
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: Stucey was acquired from Minnesota too. Tom Res he was

1494
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: pretty good. He was He lives in Atlanta. Bruce Nelson,

1495
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: he was a second round draft pick who we discovered

1496
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: had a He has the jener of hips. Jeff Mitchell.

1497
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: He was a older guy, you know. James ended up

1498
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: playing well.

1499
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 2: Then he went on to Miami, signed a big contract,

1500
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: got hurt, never played again.

1501
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Gross played that. You tald me.

1502
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: Kevin Donnelly was an acquisition originally for the for the

1503
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers. Then Miami it came here. Jermaine Wiggins was

1504
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: with you guys. That's when, That's when, that's when.

1505
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: Wiggy came from uh new from you guys with Dan Henny,

1506
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: Chris Mangum.

1507
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: Pretty good dude. Lived in Mississippi. Ricky pro or the

1508
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: Brad Hoover. He was Coastal Carolina Nick Goings. Uh he

1509
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: was a full back and uh kind of like a

1510
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: utility player. Ended up retiring because he got some concussions.

1511
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: To John Foster obviously head coach c LA. He was dope.

1512
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis, I call him radio. He was coming from

1513
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: uh the Commander's Chris wink. He was a fourth round pick.

1514
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: He was drafted after me, but he got a bigger

1515
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: shinning bones than me. From Florida State. He was Heisman Trophy. Yeah,

1516
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: he played baseball as well. And Rodney Pete great dude,

1517
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: sweet meat Rodney Pete, that's what he was called him.

1518
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 3: Then Jake DeLong.

1519
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 4: Many talk about know your fucking team. You know you're

1520
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 4: a good teammate. That's impressed. I could never do that, Bro.

1521
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,879
Speaker 4: You spit a fact about everyone.

1522
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: John Casey really good friend of mine taught me about business.

1523
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: That a kicker.

1524
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

1525
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: And then uh Todds Stucy no toss owerbro big big

1526
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 1: bomb unique.

1527
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 3: And then uh Lefty he was just unique.

1528
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: That's he left.

1529
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: He was unique. And then Jason Kyle, he was the

1530
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: long snapper. Uh long snapper for a long time.

1531
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:57,879
Speaker 4: Damn.

1532
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 5: That's a first in the nuthouse of any guests. It

1533
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 5: is like that knows their team that well, guy, But

1534
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 5: that's awesome.

1535
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: Who's the unsung heroes of this team?

1536
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: Den Morgan?

1537
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: I think in that Super Bowl he ended up having like,

1538
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: uh seventeen or twenty two tackles.

1539
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Jesus Greg Favors.

1540
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a linebacker you're missing that we didn't Mark Fields.

1541
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: Mark Fields is not on here?

1542
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 4: Yep. Mark Fields was supposed to be on there. Where's

1543
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 4: Mark Fields of the season? Sometimes?

1544
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Fields? He was on their unsung heroes man.

1545
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was a lot of them because

1546
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 1: we were like kind of the band of misfits, Like

1547
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: we really weren't supposed to like be where we were

1548
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: being and how we were being there. Yeah, And so

1549
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: it was unique, right, you had a five to nine

1550
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 1: receiver at X. You had an old man who uh Moussin.

1551
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: Then you had Carl Hankton, Kevin Dyson, Eugene Baker. He

1552
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: went to Kent State, Eugene Baker. Yeah, he went to

1553
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: Kent State.

1554
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1555
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say what I was just thinking, so

1556
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: I stopped myself. Good dude, Eugene, what year was it?

1557
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 4: What did he go to Kent How long did he

1558
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 4: was on the team.

1559
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: Uh, Eugene Baker's a good dude, man, It's good he

1560
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: played Kent State.

1561
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 4: Kent State drafted nineteen ninety nine.

1562
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 3: I told you, Boom, you don't even know your school.

1563
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: I didn't even know Ken.

1564
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what Kent State was until I

1565
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: went to on my visit. Yeah, but he still went

1566
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: there though I did. No, he still went there.

1567
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: But I've heard his name.

1568
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 5: How much are you guys still in contact, because like

1569
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 5: this was such a unique group of guys, Like you

1570
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 5: still talk to these dudes all the time.

1571
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: Uh, Kevin Donald, he's uh he is at UC Chapel Hill.

1572
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 4: Nice.

1573
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: Jordan Gross just moved a couple of years ago, just

1574
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: moved back to to the whole Idaho. Jeff Mitchell is

1575
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Skinny had two help replacements to Tom rads is in

1576
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: he's in Atlanta. Matt Williams out here acting he hate me.

1577
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: He kind of comes and goes. Nick Goins is down

1578
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: at the beach in North Carolina. Brad who was head coaching.

1579
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: Stephen Davis is in South Columbia. Chris wink Is, Uh,

1580
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: he was coaching a little bit. He's all over. Rodney's

1581
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: moved to Calabasas. Kevin Dyson is a school teacher and

1582
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: me and him play every year. We played golf together

1583
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:32,879
Speaker 1: in Bandon Dunes. Uh, Bannon Due. It's in Portland.

1584
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: It's probably nice.

1585
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh, super nice. It's public too. It's a Muni. It's outstanding.

1586
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: Ricky Pole is doing stuff and soon coaching. Yeah, he's

1587
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: coaching and coaching. Steve Smith's Uh Steve Smith now he's

1588
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior.

1589
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 3: Chris Mangum.

1590
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: When I was with Baltimore, he came down from Mississippi

1591
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: and drove down and came to the game.

1592
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

1593
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 1: Jermaine Wiggins, Uh, he's doing radio. I believe Al Wallace

1594
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 1: is in Charlotte. Mike Rutgers in Charlotte. Ken Raths musa

1595
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: as a fireman. Chris Jenkins moved back to Maryland. Shane

1596
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: Burton is I think he's up at the Lake Brischard

1597
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: Buckner was coaching deon Grants in Atlanta. Will Hamilton, I

1598
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: think is in Atlanta. Reggie Howards and Minas in Memphis.

1599
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: Ricky Manning Junior is coaching with the Las Vegas Raiders.

1600
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: Mike Mannard just retired from coaching at Campbell. Dante Wesley

1601
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: I see him in Dallas every time, so.

1602
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 4: You're seeing the team, You're seeing a bunch of the guys.

1603
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Morgan is the general manager for the for them.

1604
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: Will Witherspoon is doing I saw him a couple of

1605
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: years ago. He's actually he has a farm out in

1606
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: Saint Louis because after that year he resigned and got

1607
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: a big deal with Saint Louis. So he does that stuff.

1608
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: So I mean I talked to him. I try to

1609
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: talk to him a lot. The guys make sure. Me

1610
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: and Jake talk probably once a month, Dope just checking

1611
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: checking in. Me and Moose talk.

1612
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: So where were you guys in the chemistry factor this year?

1613
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: Was this like your breakout year with him? Or how

1614
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: many years did you have him at that time?

1615
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: Who Jake so this is so, this was great. This

1616
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: is when we had went to Super Bowl. Then opening

1617
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: week against Green Bay, I broke my ankle, so I

1618
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: was out moose ball. Then he went to Chicago and

1619
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: then next year I came back and I won a

1620
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: triple crown.

1621
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1622
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: First you were the last person to do it before

1623
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: Coop did it. Yeah, and then Sterling Sharp was before you, right, Yeah,

1624
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: jer crazy Jerry Sterling, that's fucking gnarly. That is crazy

1625
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: to be a triple crown yards tugs and receptions.

1626
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 4: He hate me. If you played in the XFL, what

1627
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 4: would your name have been?

1628
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough confidence like that, Like people think

1629
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: I have a lot of kind of I really don't.

1630
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: You wouldn't make a stab at it? No, well I

1631
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have either.

1632
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have.

1633
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: Now can we talk about you were there for so long?

1634
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: You play with Cam? Yeah, I played with Cam.

1635
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,839
Speaker 4: I was up. I liked Cam.

1636
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 2: Cam was Caim. He went to his I was just

1637
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: he went to his own beat. Like Kim would be

1638
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: out there and four he'd be there at four thirty

1639
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: in the morning. It was different because it was COVID.

1640
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 2: So I only got him for like COVID year. He'd

1641
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: be there at like four three in the morning on

1642
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: the treadmill and like doing his thing, and he's just

1643
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: like and then he would do some crazy ass ship

1644
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 2: that make you laugh and stuff. But I had never

1645
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: been around that. It was just different. But Kim was

1646
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: a great dude, worked his dick off, worked hard. He

1647
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: worked hard.

1648
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, how you like him? You liked him? He was.

1649
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 3: I was at a different I was at.

1650
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 4: He told me that about you. I asked him about you.

1651
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: He goes, he goes. I was a he goes.

1652
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: He said that exact same thing. I think he goes.

1653
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: Steve was at a different point in his career when

1654
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: I was there. I was twenty two or I was

1655
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: twenty years old. He was a grown ass man, you know, Like,

1656
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: so we were in that's the exact same thing he said.

1657
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 2: I was not or about anything other than ball. Yeah,

1658
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't care less, that's what he said. Hey listen, No, yeah, hey,

1659
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking, don't think that's it was. I love

1660
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: him for that specific for us though, So here's what

1661
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: I would say, right.

1662
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: I really tried not to really talk much about it,

1663
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: because one looking back at how I was and looking

1664
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: back where I was. I wanted to win, and I

1665
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: was so concerned about winning. I didn't really care about

1666
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,480
Speaker 1: all that other stuff. That other stuff to me was irrelevant.

1667
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: And I was fresh traded there. Yes, I wanted to win,

1668
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: and I knew that my time was coming up. And

1669
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: so there were times people would like in the organization,

1670
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: would say I'm jealous. I wasn't jealous. I wanted to win.

1671
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: You're right here, it's not oh, I'm jealous. No, I

1672
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: wanted to win yesterday and today's the day.

1673
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 4: So I was.

1674
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I was in a hurry. I was all about man.

1675
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: Seeing Marty Herney before they drafted camp Man, I had

1676
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: an off site meeting with the general manager, and man,

1677
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: we had a crazy meeting. When I say crazy, like

1678
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: I did and said stuff in football, Bro, it was

1679
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: just like what are you doing? Like I go back

1680
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: and I like cringe, like, oh, my wife does that?

1681
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: Like oh, I had a meeting with Marty Herney one

1682
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: time we met at one of the country clubs I

1683
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: was at and I had my notebook and I wrote

1684
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: down stats and I was like, bro, I am so

1685
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: tired of losing Marty, and I just want to win.

1686
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: And so I had looked up Lynn swan stats and

1687
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: I put lynn Swan's stats of what he had and

1688
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: what I had, and I said, you know, statistically, I

1689
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: have passed Lynn Swan four years ago. I said, but

1690
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: you know the difference between Lynn Swan and me. Lynn

1691
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: Swan understood that if he satisfied his personal goals that

1692
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: he would exceed anything he can achieve because the team

1693
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: goals were so much bigger. I said, my statistical goals

1694
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: are less and the team goals are less. Why am

1695
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I here? We're not win and I'm not getting stats.

1696
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: He looked at me and that was the first time

1697
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: like he was like he thought it was going to

1698
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: be like a cussing out section. I was like, no,

1699
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out. I remember saying Lynn Swan's

1700
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: when he was with the Pittsburgh and his goals were

1701
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: so high, he knew that he would surpass anything personally

1702
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,759
Speaker 1: he can do. Because the team goes statistically, we're gonna

1703
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: be remarkable. I said, I'm not doing either, So why

1704
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: should I stay?

1705
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1706
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: What am I holding out for? And he looked at

1707
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: me and he was like And then I stopped and

1708
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I said, now it's your turn. He said, I need

1709
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: to get back to you because he thought it was

1710
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: a bout and I was just like, bro, I'm just

1711
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: I want to play. I love this game so much,

1712
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: but I also know what this game is. This game

1713
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: is about statistical stats, and so it just like so

1714
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: when Cam got there, man, I was so burnt out

1715
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 1: and so I was such a complainer about not winning

1716
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: that I did not have patience for all that other stuff.

1717
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Didn't have patience for him to develop. I was thirty something,

1718
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: I get it, and so it was very complicated and

1719
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: it was a loaded situation. And then we had you know,

1720
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: coach coach Rivere. He was getting his feet wet and

1721
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: he was trying to figure it out, and it just

1722
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: I was like, man, this ain't for me.

1723
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: You get old in the same spot for a while

1724
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 2: when things started going, I was a cranky old guy

1725
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: for a while.

1726
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: But what's funny is when I left and went to Baltimore,

1727
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: like the Ryan Khalils, the guys who were young, the

1728
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: Louke Keigley's, they started when I came. When I was playing,

1729
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 1: they were like, I'm starting to be like Steve now

1730
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm all grumpy.

1731
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you know, that's how it goes, Yeah,

1732
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: what is it? What is the Batman quote? You long

1733
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 2: enough as a hero, you died the villain or some

1734
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my quotes movies.

1735
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 4: Jack. Let's see what this game is about real quick,

1736
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 4: all right, let's get into this thing.

1737
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 5: This is the number two seed versus number three seed Panthers,

1738
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 5: coming off a win against Dallas. Steve bald out that

1739
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 5: game that was a Bank of America one hundred and

1740
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 5: thirty five yards in a tuddy of the week before,

1741
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 5: so coming in riding high, this was the best first

1742
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 5: quarter offense versus the best first quarter defense. So we

1743
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 5: only see three points in this first quarter, three to nothing.

1744
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 5: That would be a theme throughout this game. Field goals

1745
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 5: eight combined field goals this game. Some field goal misses also.

1746
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 5: Then in the second we get this weird first score,

1747
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 5: the touchdown for the Panthers, weird bamboozle fumble pitche moose

1748
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 5: recovers it in the end zone.

1749
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 4: Panthers get up.

1750
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 5: This was to put them up seven to six, tack

1751
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 5: on a field goal, up ten to nine.

1752
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: At the half.

1753
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 5: So fewest, I mean, this was like a very low

1754
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 5: score game, which was surprising given given the offensive prowess

1755
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 5: of the Greatest Show on Turf, so just kind of

1756
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 5: a you knew it was gonna be a weird game,

1757
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 5: a long game, a war of attrition.

1758
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 4: Uh after that first half, what was it like playing

1759
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 4: that turf, bro and.

1760
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: That turf was dope? I mean I don tennis shoes,

1761
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: so you I think I was rebock then rocking rebox

1762
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: this game, Yeah, I was, I was rebok. I was

1763
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: moving too.

1764
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 5: We saw one of the rams guys had on some

1765
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 5: sixteens looks sick the Golden Blue sixties.

1766
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Jordan's yeah, oh yeah, that was Marshall.

1767
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Folk used to play in those, usually

1768
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 5: playing see this football mine, I got steel trapped.

1769
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: Baby.

1770
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: He fucking just rattled off every teammate, their their dog's name,

1771
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,520
Speaker 2: there where they live, and their investments.

1772
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Hey, Dan Looker, Dan Looker was supposed to be that

1773
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: dude though, dang Dane Looker.

1774
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: He's he was supposed to be that dude, was he?

1775
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1776
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: They were, they were. He was supposed to be the

1777
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 3: guy that replaced.

1778
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 2: Ricky pro He probably Ricky Prol had it. He had

1779
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: some really good seasons with you guys, and with the

1780
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Greatest Show.

1781
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 4: He won did anyone. He was in that Super Bowl. Yeah,

1782
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 4: with them. Griggy Pole was a good little players, Like

1783
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 4: is he how tall is he? I think i've met him?

1784
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 4: Is he?

1785
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: Everybody's stall me?

1786
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know five eleven? How tall you? Five ten?

1787
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I just I'm short, So I'm just kind

1788
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: of used.

1789
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 4: To it and I get it same.

1790
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: I was just hoping he would be in the short

1791
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: game they list at six feet.

1792
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 4: Once you hit six, it's not as cool.

1793
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that it's over, it's cooler that you're shorter,

1794
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 2: because then you let you know that you were able

1795
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: to go and do what you did on the field

1796
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: against those guys at a That's that's.

1797
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 4: How I think bro.

1798
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had one hundred and sixty

1799
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: three yards.

1800
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And John Fox was opening up the playbook earlier.

1801
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 5: This one two into rounds at the beginning. You threw

1802
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 5: one up early, no tragic.

1803
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: So this game's going on, you guys are going into overtime.

1804
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: What's the mentality of the team, like going in that

1805
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: second overtime after like, I.

1806
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: Mean, we weren't even supposed to be there.

1807
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,440
Speaker 4: You're playing with house money, You're feeling.

1808
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and then you can see I had a

1809
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: visor on because Travis. Uh yeah, he poked me in

1810
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: an eye four.

1811
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah hurt. It does, especially when you got your eyes

1812
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 3: open too.

1813
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 5: That was back when they had the major in the

1814
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 5: minor face masking penalties. They threw the major on him

1815
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 5: that one. What like the like remember you could get

1816
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 5: the fifteen yard face mask or like the uh yeah.

1817
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: And then when I came back after the visor, he

1818
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: jammed me again. And the thing in the rep that

1819
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: was the first time the ref was like another one

1820
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: of those.

1821
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 4: I was like, shout out to the visor. That's crazy.

1822
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 4: They didn't call that stuff back in the day. Really

1823
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 4: it was. It was very very It was very I

1824
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 4: was watching some of these guys.

1825
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: I saw a fullback he broke out and he kind

1826
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: of went out of bounce guy like a second later.

1827
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this one was you can see it. It

1828
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: was like he hit you with the three students, was it? No,

1829
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: it was a straight accident.

1830
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 4: He's an offhand jam guy. That's usually where they get.

1831
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 4: You get the offhand jam guy. Sometimes they missed you.

1832
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: Nah, he was double jam that's how jam. Yeah, and

1833
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 1: I kind of lowered.

1834
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.

1835
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 4: What was the turning point of this game, though.

1836
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 3: I'll be I mean I had hair back then. I

1837
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:25,839
Speaker 3: don't know, bro. It was so back and forth.

1838
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 2: It was so it was so back and forth that

1839
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 2: it was just like we were just holding on for

1840
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: their life.

1841
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 5: Man.

1842
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 4: Now walking through the walk off, you do X clown again.

1843
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 2: You hit it in the fourth quarter, I believe, and

1844
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 2: you have like a thirty yard game. Yeah, when you

1845
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 2: guys line up to call it, it's first play, what

1846
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 2: do you think and they're giving you Are you thinking

1847
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: this is just for a chunk player?

1848
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 4: Are do you know that you're going to be covered? Well?

1849
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I knew it was cover too, Yeah, So I stemmed inside,

1850
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: I run, I lean, But when I leaned, I leaned

1851
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: so much inside this time that when he threw it,

1852
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure in cover too exactly.

1853
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 3: How far or how close, well, how far the safety was.

1854
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: So when I leaned, I kind of had that lean

1855
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: like you know that WinCE, and went there and he

1856
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: wasn't there.

1857
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, I can't go Yeah, and so

1858
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 3: that's that's what it was.

1859
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 2: But but then once I got it, I was like,

1860
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 2: ain't nobody catching me?

1861
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 3: Right?

1862
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 4: You're fast? I kind of was.

1863
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 3: I was surprised.

1864
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Kana was that was crazy I

1865
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: had but because I had a long stride and so

1866
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 2: it took me a little bit of time to build up.

1867
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 4: Nah.

1868
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: But there's very rarely a film of you getting getting caught.

1869
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 4: I got caught.

1870
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: But for being a five to nine guy to be

1871
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 2: able to hold your high.

1872
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: Speed, that's insane. And you get them young legs. Those

1873
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 4: are young legs.

1874
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, as your third You know, when you start looking

1875
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: at your legs when you're watching film, you watch your

1876
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 2: older film, You're like, man, you look like a different

1877
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 2: At least I could always see what year my career

1878
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: is through the film of how my legs looked.

1879
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 4: Really through the speed, I don't watch film like that.

1880
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 4: When you hit the ends and what did you do? Bro?

1881
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 3: I was so shocked, man, I was like, oh man, yeah.

1882
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 3: And then they came and it was.

1883
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,879
Speaker 4: It was dope. How did you guys celebrate?

1884
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 3: Oh we got back on a flight?

1885
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Uh was it was it celebrate time? Or did you

1886
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 2: guys know you had another job?

1887
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: We knew we had another job, but it was it

1888
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: was dope though, Like mister Richardson at the time, who

1889
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: was the owner, like my family was there, so it was.

1890
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: It was great, Like it was a whole bunch of

1891
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: uh people there. Man, it was dope.

1892
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 2: You got like, we can hear walk off in baseball

1893
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: all the time, but to have a walk off in

1894
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: double overtime, what's that? That's fucking gotta that's insane, that

1895
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 2: feeling it is.

1896
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, just like I mean, I

1897
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: remember when you were with I was with the Ravens

1898
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: and you threw that pass like you don't really know

1899
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: it until like it's kind of like over.

1900
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 4: You don't appreciate it until it's gone home. Man. Yeah,

1901
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 4: you never enjoy it.

1902
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: No, I never got to enjoy this because the next

1903
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 2: year you just trying to go again.

1904
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. I get it.

1905
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 5: Just a sum that went up before we put a

1906
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 5: bow on it. The Rams came back from down twenty

1907
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 5: three to twelve in the fourth quarter, touchdown, two point conversion,

1908
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 5: on side kick recovery tie it up at twenty three.

1909
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:38,959
Speaker 4: Convert a big fourth and fourth.

1910
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 2: After the game we've done in the last two weeks,

1911
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: I had an on side kick recovery. We did the

1912
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen patter the Seahawks Seahawks Green Bay, remember remember

1913
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 2: that game where Aaron Rodgers and I would get Rest

1914
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Wilson through five interceptions, they still won.

1915
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1916
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 4: Crazy, It's crazy because when you.

1917
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 1: See who dropped that pass, his career has never been

1918
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: side Oh there was the running back who was a

1919
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: He was a running back and wide receiver, a green Star.

1920
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brandon Bostik dropped it on the on side kick

1921
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 5: because Jordy Nelson was behind him. He was supposed to

1922
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 5: be the blocker. He jumped up to catch it like this.

1923
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 5: They hit him right in the face mask.

1924
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1925
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I was to watch the on side kick now, like,

1926
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 2: no one's getting on side kicks nowadays, not with these

1927
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: new rules and stuff. Even you gotta you gotta like

1928
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 2: tell the team somebody.

1929
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 3: Got an onside kick.

1930
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 4: Not yet, not in the new dynamic.

1931
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Somebody did get onside kick a couple of weeks ago,

1932
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Damn that just I'm dead.

1933
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: It's certainly been someone just did it out of the

1934
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 2: new rules.

1935
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 4: How do you like the new rules? I like it.

1936
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

1937
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it matters what cowboys first one

1938
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: told you, bang man paying attention analyst, You were analysts.

1939
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get this you know I've been

1940
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: having to do all this research for this interview.

1941
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 6: Dude, he's too busy watching young Legs on the film Legs.

1942
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: Jokers. Everyone's got everyone's got a joke. Now, huh, everyone's

1943
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 4: got jokes. That's right, that's right, that's right. Is this

1944
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 4: the most memorable player in your career for you? Or

1945
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 4: is there a different play?

1946
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 2: There's a lot of plays, like I remember certain little

1947
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: things about nuances.

1948
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 4: What's your favorite play that you made?

1949
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I think this, I mean, this is the most memorable

1950
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: in my Panther history. I mean the biggest play is

1951
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: I always leave. To be honest, man, is just making

1952
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: us to the league? Yeah, Like I respect that because

1953
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: you know, I was man. I used to ride the

1954
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: bus back and forth here on Woolsher the three one. Yeah, man,

1955
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 1: I used to day dream, fall asleep on the bus

1956
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: hoping to play in the league.

1957
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1958
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 3: So man, every you know, every every chance.

1959
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: Like That's why now I never say, you know, act

1960
01:37:58,400 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: like you've been there before, because I know, you know,

1961
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 1: what's this over?

1962
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 3: It is over. It's no takebacks, no givebacks.

1963
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: No take backs, no givebacks. He's deep, Yes, that was

1964
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 4: I was profound. I love that. What's the what's the

1965
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 4: legacy and what's the wrap up aftermath of this game?

1966
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 5: And then in overtime we get two missed field goals

1967
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 5: in the first overtime to end overtime one, Mark Boulger

1968
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 5: throws an interception which would set up third and fourteen.

1969
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 3: From the game.

1970
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 2: Bulger reminds me of a little bit Bulger I was

1971
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 2: looking at the film, kind of reminds me of Jimmy G.

1972
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 4: The way he throws it.

1973
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: I've never called it Jimmy G pass Well, Mark Bolger

1974
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 1: that thing like butter bro I called it one of

1975
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: his passes in uh in the Pro Bowl.

1976
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like how they're throwing motion, They're both kind

1977
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: of keep it low and they kind of that that

1978
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: little quick release.

1979
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little bias whole quarterbacks. I think they get

1980
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: way too much credit. Yeah, so, I like I'm very

1981
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: critical of quarterbacks. Yeah, Like I'm very judging of quarterbacks.

1982
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: Gotta be super judgy.

1983
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the they're the ones that gotta be judged

1984
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 2: the most. They're making the most money. I Yeah, just

1985
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: I'm very judging, Like, like who everybody, all.

1986
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 4: Of them judgment on.

1987
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: Tom Nothing, Thomas Crafty, Crafty, he.

1988
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 4: Was who's your favorite quarterback growing up?

1989
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 3: Steve Young?

1990
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 4: Steve Young, I.

1991
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 3: Like Randall Cunningham. Yeah, uh, I like uh Troy.

1992
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: Troy was good, you know how I love though like two,

1993
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: I thought he was just he was crazy good. Keith Buyers,

1994
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 1: Keith Byers, Yeah, he's like a full back slash half

1995
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: bag going number forty one?

1996
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 4: What team?

1997
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 9: Uh?

1998
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 4: He was with?

1999
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, Dolphins, Dolphins, Pats, Pats for a minute, yep,

2000
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 1: past for a minute.

2001
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 3: Wow, your your football acromen is very disappointing.

2002
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 4: Been hitting the head a lot too?

2003
01:39:56,640 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow, is that what you're going with? That excuse

2004
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 1: doesn't work, Steve can No.

2005
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 5: Jaggie final scoring this one twenty nine twenty three Panthers

2006
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,839
Speaker 5: walk it off. Baby would go on to beat Philly

2007
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship get to the Super Bowl, as

2008
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 5: we talked about earlier. And then one little last fun

2009
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 5: fact here. This was an old NFL Europe matchup. Jake

2010
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 5: Delone backed up Mark Bulger for the Frankfurt Galaxy.

2011
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety eight.

2012
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 5: Galaxy for all you NFL europe Heads at home, just

2013
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 5: throwing that one in there.

2014
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 2: Fighting dude, I wish they had Europe when I was younger,

2015
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: that would rock.

2016
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 4: Man. I probably would have been over there. I could

2017
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 4: see you over there. It wouldn't that been.

2018
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 2: Cool if you were a practice squad guy or something

2019
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: you got to go live in Europe for a year

2020
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: and play football.

2021
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 3: No, not not at my rookie I was ignorant. Nope.

2022
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I look on it, like, now, yes,

2023
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's go. Yeah, but no, who's the mount

2024
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Rushmore Panthers?

2025
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: Man, you ain't giving me a troost pass? Except pass,

2026
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it always starts with Samuels. Yeah,

2027
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: shout out everybody else other than that, everybody under that.

2028
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Do what you may.

2029
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 4: I don't.

2030
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not getting involved in that.

2031
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you don't have to keep pounding wristband back

2032
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 5: in the day, I don't know what you were doing.

2033
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. We

2034
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: gotta name the game. What's the name of this game?

2035
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,639
Speaker 2: These are a couple of things that we came up with.

2036
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 2: The X Clown Game, the Turf Killer Rip Greatest Show

2037
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 2: on Turf, Pretty versus Gritty or do you have a

2038
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 2: different name. The name is the It's the ex clown game.

2039
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: That's the name of the game, the X Clown game

2040
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,679
Speaker 2: will go with it. Score the game presented by door Dash.

2041
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it?

2042
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 2: Steak zero to ten decimals? Okay, the stakes of this game.

2043
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 2: What you gotta score it like the steaks, like the

2044
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 2: importance of like ten ten ten, I go with a

2045
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: nine win.

2046
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 4: You you gotta watch the show.

2047
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: I did watch it. I didn't watch it till the end.

2048
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got watched the very end. If it's a

2049
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 4: super Bowl, it's it's like a nine to five.

2050
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 2: If it's a super Bowl with like importance, like they're

2051
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 2: going for a double repeat or something, you know, then

2052
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 2: it's a ten.

2053
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 4: Ok.

2054
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 6: Sorry, like space jams games like ten because like world

2055
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 6: was at risk, that's the standard.

2056
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: No star power of the game zero to Ooh.

2057
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 3: Is it based on today? Or is it based on

2058
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 3: back then? Back then? Back then?

2059
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 4: Back then?

2060
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 3: Were five? Dam back then?

2061
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 4: What about today? What would the today score be? Bro

2062
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 4: fifteen fifteen? So back then a five six.

2063
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 2: Hall of famers in this thing, six hall of famers

2064
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 2: and some futures and some futures in some futures.

2065
01:42:54,560 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 1: See Jason Sehorn was out there. He's a he is

2066
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: the Michael Irvan killer. Jason Seahorn.

2067
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 4: I was, I was playing against Seahorn. I don't know.

2068
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 3: I ran past him.

2069
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 4: He's due.

2070
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 3: He lives in Charlotte, though our kids went to the

2071
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 3: same school.

2072
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 4: Great, dude, that's right.

2073
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 3: I forgot about that.

2074
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, star power for me. I'm gonna go with like eight.

2075
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 4: Jack had a seven nine out of seven. The gameplay

2076
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 4: of the game. How the game played.

2077
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: Out, Oh, it was. It was very uh it was

2078
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 1: white knuckled. So I said seven.

2079
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 4: Seven, I go, I go. I mean there was a

2080
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 4: lot of fun plays in this this game for the.

2081
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 2: Viewer, kick miss field goals, nail biders, first double ot

2082
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 2: game six, I remember, the longest game in NFL history.

2083
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta go, probably eight and eight and a half.

2084
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 4: Jack had a nine point three. The game was awesome.

2085
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 2: The name of the game, the X Clown Game. Okay,

2086
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: score in and importance of all time? How people are

2087
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 2: gonna remember this game?

2088
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean our history is a ten ten.

2089
01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, ex clown people know what you mean?

2090
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I knew what it mant.

2091
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 4: I'll go with the eight point eight wow jacket A

2092
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 4: nine point one at eight or well, I mean we've

2093
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 4: had the immaculate reception game.

2094
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 3: There's like listening to you.

2095
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 4: Eight point four four.

2096
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 6: That puts us tied for like sixteen seventeenth with Wrestlmania

2097
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 6: thirty five with two belts in the double comeback game

2098
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,520
Speaker 6: Ravens Patriots twenty.

2099
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 2: Fourteen, right by the double comeback top twenty. Oh okay,

2100
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: it's really good.

2101
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I've never watched till the end, so I'm

2102
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of I'm like double Like I'm looking at this.

2103
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 4: All the games we've thought, oh wow, we've done the Bananigans,

2104
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 4: we did the Yankees Red Sox.

2105
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh, the wheelchair game? Is that what Paul pierce his pants?

2106
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 2: He didn't confirm he'd no, we confirmed he didn't. Technically,

2107
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 2: that's what he says. What we go by it he

2108
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 2: didn't shit his pants.

2109
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 4: I don't believe Steve, Where do you stand on that one?

2110
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 2: On?

2111
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 4: What did he or did he not? What poop on himself? Problem?

2112
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 4: In the right white the wide right game? That was tough.

2113
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 6: Before we wrap up, I'd love to ask you a question.

2114
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 6: This season you went on to play the Patriots in

2115
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. Tyler is a friend of the show.

2116
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 6: I would just love to hear going against with That's

2117
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 6: like it was dope, Like Tyler is very skilled.

2118
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I ended up man going against something of the Patriots

2119
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:35,440
Speaker 1: was was cool because.

2120
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 3: We had this whole deal.

2121
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: We weren't going to get pushed around, like uh, they

2122
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: pushed around the coats and I was like, bro, they

2123
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 1: are that is not happening with us.

2124
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

2125
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,759
Speaker 1: But ty like he when he went to the Jets,

2126
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: we had like a little I had emotion and it

2127
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: was a play coming this way and he recognized it

2128
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: by aligneman and assignment and shot the gap and I

2129
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: got yelled at, like man, So I just remember he

2130
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: was like really smart, real smart Hall of Famer. Yeah,

2131
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just there's

2132
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: a little small things that like, you know, you're like, oh,

2133
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but they were like little small things.

2134
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 3: It was like, man, this dude, if.

2135
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 4: You're a Hall of Fame corner, you're a guy that

2136
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 4: knows the game.

2137
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 2: If you look at all the Hall of Fame corners,

2138
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: they were all revis is gonna be one.

2139
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 3: He's yeah, he is one.

2140
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 4: Though he's in.

2141
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: I hate going I hate it going against with it,

2142
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: and and uh when he was waiting with you guys.

2143
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, Yeah, we were battling out. Bro.

2144
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: You you got a good ass game. Didn't you score

2145
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: in the first half of the second half? We got adjustments? Yeah,

2146
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: adjustments yeah yeah.

2147
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 4: Steve, we missed anything about this game? Well, I don't

2148
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,879
Speaker 4: think that was dope, Bro, that was awesome.

2149
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 2: Anything you want to plug ironed out on YouTube, go

2150
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: check it out, folks.

2151
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 3: Then go check it out.

2152
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 4: Anything else. Eighty nine.

2153
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 1: I ain't know, underdog. I mean, we can exchange numbers.

2154
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: I keep talking to your handling.

2155
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 4: Why didn't It's not even that, It's just I mean

2156
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 4: I didn't know what.

2157
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sometimes asking for guys numbers, you don't know

2158
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 2: how they're going to react.

2159
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean you got a child, right, Yeah I do.

2160
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I'll do thirty eight. You've been told no once or

2161
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: twice in your life a few times.

2162
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 4: You would be all right, then, Bro, will be all right.

2163
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I wouldn't.

2164
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I would say, Man, I have not done myself for

2165
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: good service by like kind of how I've kind of

2166
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: carried myself when I played. But Bro, I'll be honest, Man,

2167
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,680
Speaker 1: I come humbly, come in like Bro, I want to

2168
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 1: keep the brotherhood, and just like hanging out and chilling

2169
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: bro all day. And the fact that you have lived

2170
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: here so many years.

2171
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 4: I've only been here for eighteen months.

2172
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Bro, You've been You've been coming back and forth to

2173
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: l life. I'm inn into the year for how many years?

2174
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 4: Like ten?

2175
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 2: Okay, but you already said you're in North Carolina. You

2176
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 2: out here, man, My family's out here.

2177
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Like when I got your home address, I was thinking

2178
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: about sending some boys up just to knock on the

2179
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: door and just let you know.

2180
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 3: That's how close.

2181
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Gotta check in, just check in, se what we'll exchange numbers.

2182
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 4: And I would love to hang out, play golf, play gold.

2183
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 4: I would love to. I just didn't know. You know,

2184
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I'm like a rook to you. You're

2185
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 4: you're Steve fucking man.

2186
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 2: You're like one of my heroes is a kid. I'm

2187
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: not just gonna slide up in your fucking.

2188
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 4: Hey man, it's Julian Edelman. Bro, how are you doing?

2189
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 4: Would you like? No, that's dope, That's how I feel. No,

2190
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so let's do it. Let's

2191
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 4: do it. Yeah, what show?

2192
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, appreciate it man, Steve Smith Senior, legend,

2193
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 2: senior legend guy.

2194
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 4: We've been waiting to get in that house for a minute.

2195
01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 4: Such a fan of how he approached the game.

2196
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 2: You know everyone everyone has that that thought, Like he

2197
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: even talked about it. What what what is Steve Smith

2198
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: really like? But to sit here and go name for

2199
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 2: name and like put a fact a location, uh like

2200
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 2: a Snapple fact on every teammate he had from twenty

2201
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 2: five years ago. Bro, that's fucking impressive. And as a

2202
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 2: first something that's like, that's not only like intelligently crazy

2203
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 2: that you can remember that, but like your eq like

2204
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 2: to like know who you're playing with. And I don't

2205
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 2: know that. I feel terrible. I felt like a shitty teammate.

2206
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 2: After that, I went and called David Andrews and Brian

2207
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: Hoyor just to call him and say, hey, guys, how

2208
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 2: you doing, dev what's going on?

2209
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 4: Bro? Gott to keep in touch with the boys? I know.

2210
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 4: I love that.

2211
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 5: That was because usually we throw the we throw the

2212
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 5: rosters up, we go through them. He look, Oh he

2213
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 5: was good. I remember every guy where he's at, what.

2214
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,679
Speaker 4: He's It was incredible. And also just listening home, we

2215
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 4: cut down a lot too. There was more there.

2216
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 6: It was way more there that we will have retroact

2217
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 6: cut down a lot of that too, because he had

2218
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 6: all of it.

2219
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 4: Competitor. He might have dropped a couple of Social Security numbers.

2220
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 4: I think address literally.

2221
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 5: I just wanted to hear some like bayou stories of

2222
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 5: him and Jake DeLoone, like down in the Bayou doing something.

2223
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 4: I know, retire.

2224
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Those commercials were so funny. They Yes, there's a Jangles commercial.

2225
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 2: Did we ask We didn't ask that.

2226
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 5: We didn't get to ask him about the Bojangles dukes

2227
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:29,839
Speaker 5: that had you know all time Steven make it nervous.

2228
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 4: I know, I was shrunk. I was a little bit.

2229
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 4: I like. I like that you're a little under hills too.

2230
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 4: I like when you get uncomfortable. He got me, got

2231
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: me a little nerve. I just didn't.

2232
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like, you know, one of my

2233
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 2: childhood heroes, and he's for real makes me nervous.

2234
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 4: Great all time game all overlooked awesome. I think there's

2235
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 4: a hear a ring at the door. There, A ring

2236
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 4: is our food here? I think our foods here. He

2237
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 4: liked he and I love how I and Ninco rocked

2238
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 4: the the turned up bill. Yeah, the bill. I'm more

2239
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 4: slared to him than Ninco, though, well, Steve's been doing

2240
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 4: it forever. Nino just started it. Yeah, Ninko copied him.

2241
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 4: Oh it's here the big dog e.

2242
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 6: All right, let's see this postcast segment, so we can

2243
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 6: eat this delicious food delivered by.

2244
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 4: Door dash like three slices like Jack explain this segment.

2245
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 5: All right, So we're what we're going to do high

2246
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 5: level Kyler and I will be naming all thirty two

2247
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 5: teams go through one by one. You say the first food, snack,

2248
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 5: edible item that comes to your mind.

2249
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 4: Fuck, we'll do a question. We'll example here. It sounds

2250
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 4: hard to me, and Jack did a test round. Yes,

2251
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 4: it's easy. Yeah, it's not that hard. There you go

2252
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:42,200
Speaker 4: that kind of.

2253
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 5: Anything that's your mind goes to that's emblematic of that team,

2254
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 5: that city.

2255
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 4: We'll let it rip. Are you ready all right? Fastest

2256
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 4: key rapid fire? You want to uh?

2257
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 3: Okay?

2258
01:51:54,560 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, a FC East, Bill's Wings, Dolphins, Tuna.

2259
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 4: Patriots, Chowder, Jets, Italian.

2260
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 5: Okay, go to the a FC North Ravens, Crab Cakes,

2261
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 5: Good One, Bengals, Skyline, Chili, Brown gold Star Guy, honestly,

2262
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 5: Brown's Rock Kneys, not dog food.

2263
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 4: Stillers, Pardini's Brothers. What are those? Sam?

2264
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went there once, so good old teammate of

2265
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 2: mind at ken State, Drager used to talk about it

2266
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 2: all goddamn time.

2267
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 4: Keep going a little overrated.

2268
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 9: A FC South Texans, Wing Ribs, Ribs, Colts, uh sant

2269
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 9: Elmo's freaking little uh shrimp cocktail that makes you want

2270
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 9: to throw up because it has a lot of shit

2271
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 9: in it.

2272
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 4: Horse shrimp cocktails, shrimp cocktails.

2273
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 2: The Jaguars, Jags Uh Applebee's.

2274
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 4: We were thinking of Don and Jacksonville Baby, Hey, that's

2275
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 4: what I thought. Titans Barbecue, Nashville Hot chicken s.

2276
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never I don't know Nashville that well, Barbie

2277
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: never really been, but you always get those Nashville Hot

2278
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 2: chicken sandwiches.

2279
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have that. What Dave's over here chicken.

2280
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Is in Nashville style. I think so and BBQ allright,

2281
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 2: keep going.

2282
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 4: I do like a Memphis style barbecue. You know. Drake

2283
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 4: is an investor in Dave's. Drake Davis Okay.

2284
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:35,480
Speaker 6: AFC West Broncos Denver, Denver, The Rocky Mountain, Oyster Breakfast Burrito.

2285
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 4: Chiefs, Kansas City.

2286
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 2: They have really good like barbecue too, it's that's what

2287
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 2: I think of them.

2288
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, Lewis rib Yeah, styles of barbecue.

2289
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Yea, the Raider Steakhouse, Like I feel like I'm in Vegas,

2290
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 2: Oakland Chargers. You know in Oakland there'd be some like

2291
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 2: Steve Korean or ship over there. They used to have

2292
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: a place in Berkeley that was really good. Loved it

2293
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 2: when I go visit all my friends there, Curti.

2294
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 4: Chargers, l A. I'm going with the little.

2295
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 2: It's like the little squeal of tacos, little pickled tacos

2296
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 2: that have ground beef.

2297
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 4: They are like fried, a burger taco.

2298
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 2: It's like a burger, a ground beef taco, A ground

2299
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 2: beef taco.

2300
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 4: That's what a charger is. I like when you order

2301
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 4: those for the crib. Yeah, they're fire.

2302
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 2: They use they call it the white Boy taco. That's

2303
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 2: what I call it because they use cheddar cheese. They

2304
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 2: don't use like the real ship. It's pretty yeah whatever.

2305
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Off the East the Cowboys, Dallas, Big d

2306
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: just want a big steak, bigtak.

2307
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 4: We can we can amend dancers, Jerry. That's yeah. New

2308
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 4: York Giants.

2309
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna go a whole pizza, but they're a

2310
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 2: slice of pizza.

2311
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 10: Slice of pizza. The Eagles Philadelphia. We already said, it's

2312
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 10: cheese steaks easy, the Commander's commanders, what's something like political bullshit?

2313
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 5: They got the Mumbo sauce over there, they got the

2314
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 5: Ben's Chili bowl.

2315
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know DC that well.

2316
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 2: I had a bunch of friends from college that were

2317
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 2: from DC area, but I don't know. And the go go,

2318
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: I know the go go. But for food, this is

2319
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 2: esppecially rapid release or rapid fire. First thing that comes

2320
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 2: to your mind, where is that one spot? Wasn't there

2321
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 2: something in one of those political shows.

2322
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 4: Freddy's Barbecue. I don't know if that's really well, I

2323
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 4: don't think it is.

2324
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 2: If if the Crabcakes or Baltimore d C's like real

2325
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: crabcake ish, it's real close. So they probably have good crabcakes.

2326
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: So they have like the little ones.

2327
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 4: Okay, d C crab Cakes.

2328
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 3: D catch some smoke for that, that's okay.

2329
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 4: The Bears they'll get so mad about that. Hey we're

2330
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 4: going bareland fucking Oh my god, what you're talking about? Bullshit?

2331
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 4: Hey we know, Cliff baby, it's blue blue crab.

2332
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: I believe right, because where I'm from over in the

2333
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, little dungeness, dungeness.

2334
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 4: A little sweeter, smaller, the sweeter.

2335
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 2: The Bears deep dish, but they're not actually deep dishes,

2336
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 2: like tough type pizza there.

2337
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 4: They can't run the ball.

2338
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 3: Different style Chicago pizza.

2339
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 2: They're the bar the thin cracker style, the bar cracker.

2340
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,839
Speaker 2: That's what the Bears are right now. It's good pizza,

2341
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 2: but it ain't deep dish.

2342
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 4: How about the Lions.

2343
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 2: Lions, They're a fucking double cheeseburger to me right now,

2344
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 2: double cheeseburger, double cheese packers.

2345
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 4: There is one answer here that's correct. Yeah, cheese.

2346
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 2: It's just like a cheesehead, right, But I want like

2347
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 2: a good Wisconsin white cheddar mm Vikings, Vikings, Dude, I

2348
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 2: went to Minnesota and I had a really good burger

2349
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: there at Red Cow.

2350
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 4: I think brought worse too.

2351
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh they got that's what brought.

2352
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 4: Yes, yours just brought. It's a real cast.

2353
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 3: Did you write that?

2354
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 4: Are we still going?

2355
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah? We got.

2356
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 4: In this league?

2357
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 5: By else NFC South Atlanta Falcons, Falcons, Chicken and Waffles.

2358
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: Feels played out.

2359
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 2: It feels like two thousand lemon pepper wings magic city,

2360
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 2: we gotta go.

2361
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 4: I've heard it. I heard nothing like the Wings Panthers.

2362
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 4: Did we say lemon pepper here? Yeah, the Panthers's Carolina

2363
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 4: style barbecue. Can you put more mustard and vinegar?

2364
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 5: No?

2365
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 4: I was thinking more like a sardine. I like that.

2366
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 4: That's and sardines.

2367
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the fans that that support that organization.

2368
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 4: I don't even mean you mean.

2369
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: Some people love sardines. A little salty for me, New Orleans,

2370
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 2: give me some Cajun chicken.

2371
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 4: Or some Casun down. Give me some coach o, you know,

2372
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 4: some gumbo gumbo. No, some crawfish. Crawfish Ridley he had

2373
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 4: this dude. He was lsu. He had drive. The same

2374
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 4: day of.

2375
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:19,839
Speaker 2: Catching the crawfish, we did crawfish bake up in New England.

2376
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 2: This guy came from early in the day, caught the fish,

2377
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 2: brought his whole fucking boiling thing, towed it up. We

2378
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: had like a crawfish bake. Whoa at the like on a.

2379
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:31,919
Speaker 2: It was a Friday.

2380
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 4: It was awesome, like the whole dump thing.

2381
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you dump it. He brought tables. I mean he

2382
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 2: brought the whole kitten kaboodle. It was so spicy. I

2383
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 2: mean the corn was great, but like I couldn't eat

2384
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 2: for like I had to drink milk for twenty minutes after.

2385
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 4: It was fucking spicy. When I was little.

2386
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 2: There you do all the work for a little piece

2387
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 2: of It's just not my style.

2388
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 4: I'm with you. And you can only eat so many potatoes.

2389
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 3: I liked.

2390
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 4: I liked the the what did they put They put.

2391
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Sausage in there and dewey, Yeah, you get the sausage

2392
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 2: in there.

2393
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 4: I can't wait for the super Bowl. It's so spicy.

2394
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 2: It's really good, really good, But you can't like it

2395
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 2: takes you hours.

2396
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 4: You gotta start playing a proper i'member. I've done like

2397
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 4: a cross, like a like a low country boiled, but

2398
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 4: never like and I don't know how to do it

2399
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 4: like that. Like the guys that live there, like rid

2400
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 4: and all the guys.

2401
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: Are sucking it things. They are like this, I'm over

2402
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 2: here to fucking dissect it or something. For five minutes,

2403
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 2: It's like, what is this meat?

2404
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 4: Is this meat? I don't know if I need a

2405
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 4: hammer my hands, like what, I don't know what to

2406
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 4: do a little crack snap and go. I know, I

2407
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 4: know it's the crack snap and go. But it's fucking hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I tip my cap to

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01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 2: all those people that can just go through. Maybe like

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 2: they go through like fifty they'll eat like fifty of

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01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 2: those things. No, they probably like one hundred. They sit

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01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 2: all day like Rid was there. Just a lot of

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01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 2: the Louisiana guys are on the team just for an hour.

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01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: You don't get full though. Yeah, it's because it's such

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01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 2: little bites. Yeah, it's crazy. Alright, what's our next? Tampa

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01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,879
Speaker 2: Bay Bucketeer, Tampa.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Chili's sounds right, I don't know. I

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02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 4: don't know, Tampa.

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02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 2: I heard beautiful place, Grudens because you got a steakhouse.

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Speaker 4: I think you post where we're eating.

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Speaker 6: We're reading at Gruden's house and we're talking like icy

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02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 6: football were icy Icy?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, got me Arizona.

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02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 2: I always try to whenever I'm in because I when

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02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 2: I lived in Boston. Anytime I'm in a state that

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02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 2: has any kind of Mexican population, I'm I'm sniffing out.

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02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to. I'm on a search like National Treasure

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02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 2: for like the mom and pop Mexican joint.

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02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 4: That's what I want.

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02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 2: Pop Mexican mom and pop Mexican joint rams. I like

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02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 2: some enchiladas Enchiladas, like some Enchilado's, Bang Bang Niner Gang

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02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 2: sour dough Baby, the San Francisco treat rice seahawks. He's

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02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 2: just a nice big fish, catching, throwing, eating. But I

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02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 2: would want that fish like a beautiful whatever fish they

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02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 2: the specialty fishes. I just want a little salt and pepper,

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02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 2: some lemon juice, olive oil around that bad boy. Then

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02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 2: pack it in salt, and then you fucking bake that

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02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 2: bad boy. Yes, shout out ken Orangers. We're talking little

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02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 2: it used to be with like a brand Zeno. But

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02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: I know they got some nice fresh fish over in

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Speaker 2: the Northwest.

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02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 4: Recently tossed salmon. What does that mean?

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02:01:33,600 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 2: Those are pretty hard to catch there, like some given

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02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 2: to it. I wonder I gotta go try it. I

2445
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 2: want to go try it, but I want to train

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02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 2: for it. I want to go out there looking like

2447
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 2: a like a slap dick at your gloves. No, no gloves,

2448
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 2: but you gotta like I think it's you gotta bring

2449
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 2: it in. You gotta watch that bitch in.

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02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 5: And then came Chancell will pop out and you.

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02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:56,839
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Oh, thanks DoorDash.

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02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 3: That was fun.

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02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 4: Let's go eat that food. Well, what a game. Thanks

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02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 4: again to Steve Smith Senior. You gotta get out there

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02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 4: and play some golf with him.

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02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 2: No, I fucking I would love to play golf with him. Actually,

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02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 2: it made me think about golf in a different way.

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02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 2: Very very connected to that, very connected to that. Let

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02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 2: your mind just go.

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02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 4: You know you're out there, You're out team. Don't bother me.

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02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 4: Don't don't bother me.

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02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:27,480
Speaker 2: That's been another episode of Games with Names, presented by

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