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Speaker 3: am new He scrugs here, all right, guys. Uh, yesterday

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jones was asked about Michael Parsons and asked about

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons and ask more and more about Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: and he goes fred up. Yeah, Nick, your takeaway from

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Speaker 3: Steven's frustration, This isn't the first time he's got questions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, lord knows the last two Dak Prescott questions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he got hit up all day long.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, rarely have.

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Speaker 3: We seen Steven get to this type of boiling point

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Speaker 3: like he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he has to see it coming that that

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Speaker 4: he's going to be getting these questions right, and the

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Speaker 4: frustration that he had was almost as if he was

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Speaker 4: caught off guard by the question. And that's going to

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Speaker 4: be the first thing we ask about right now, because

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Speaker 4: that's the most pressing thing left in the offseason is

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Speaker 4: when's Michael Parson's gonna get his deal back?

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking of it just like you. Okay, this

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Speaker 3: is all fixable. Yeah, we don't know why it's not fixable,

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Speaker 3: and he's not going to give us that because the

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Speaker 3: nature of the negotiations. But well, this was coming. And

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Speaker 3: when you look at the fact guys that other teams

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Speaker 3: wanted on these they're done. That's the frustrating part for

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Speaker 3: Cowboy fans. Clamb last year.

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Speaker 1: In Sanity, bab and Tyler Smith's gonna be coming.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't stop, It doesn't stop.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The only question really, though, is how long does it take?

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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't really matter that it's not done right now,

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't. It matters to me, not that Steven

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Speaker 3: But it matters.

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Speaker 1: Is it done on day one of training camp so

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Speaker 1: that it doesn't drip into the season.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's what matters.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to have it done now.

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Speaker 3: But you don't want a.

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Speaker 1: Situation where what do we have? Well, I think if

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Speaker 1: he signs now, he'll be ready to play by the

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Speaker 1: first game. You don't want that because this team is

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Speaker 1: not good enough to give away some games because their

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Speaker 1: best player is not available for week one. So as

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Speaker 1: long as he's good when at first see, we gotta

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Speaker 1: go old school. When the first training camp practice happens,

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Speaker 1: you could even show you ain't got to be done

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Speaker 1: on the day's camp starts. First practice though. You need

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Speaker 3: So when I think about the schedule, yeah, okay, the schedule.

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Speaker 3: You start off at Philadelphia on a Thursday night and

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Speaker 3: the home teams a Super Bowl champion traditionally wins that game.

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Speaker 3: it's a divisional game. Your second game is a divisional game.

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Speaker 3: It's against the Giants. Here, you're looking at the back

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Speaker 3: half of the schedules, rough, Okay, you start looking at

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Speaker 3: November twenty third. You go Philadelphia, Kansas City, Detroit, Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: LA Chargers, Washington Commanders of New York Giants. The first

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Speaker 3: part of the schedule is kind of where you in

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Speaker 3: October September October. You got to try and gain some

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Speaker 1: Was well, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: No, I am stuff going on. No, No, you know

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Speaker 3: you're this team isn't good enough having to go up

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Speaker 3: against the NFC North, the AFC and the two teams

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Speaker 4: And every indication that Mike has given us since this

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Speaker 4: and I want to get your guys opinion on this.

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Speaker 4: This is in reference to mandatory mini camp next week.

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Speaker 4: He said, I will be there. I haven't missed a

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Speaker 4: mini camp in four years. That's fact. Even though the

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Speaker 4: This is the part I'm preparing as if I will

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Speaker 4: it's in the owner's hands. Well that that tells me, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'll be there first week of camp. But it's up, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm planning on it, But it's up Jerry.

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Speaker 3: Jock, You've been right in a long time. We know what,

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Speaker 3: we know what. But means, hey, man, everything I just said,

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Speaker 3: but just take it out, no man, But it's in

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Speaker 3: the owner's hands. Meaning but if the owner doesn't have

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Speaker 3: me sign, I'm not doing this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing I'll be there when my dealers done.

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Speaker 3: And it's the old Ricky Waters line for who for what?

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Speaker 1: Man, That's just the way it is. And that's why

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Speaker 1: to me, everybody's who signed and his you know, to

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Speaker 1: be within, you know, real close to it. And so

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Speaker 1: it's not real complicated to me. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 1: this the way the Cowboys do business and have done business.

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Speaker 3: And I you know, I'm not going to sit up

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Speaker 3: what's going on here. I don't just look from the outside.

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Speaker 3: The frustrating part for Cowboy fans is the Eagles get jobbed,

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Speaker 3: they get things done. The Lions are getting things done,

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Speaker 3: the Rams are getting things.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what goes on in their household. True,

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Speaker 1: and that's what your parents used to say.

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Speaker 3: But as Parcels used to say, don't talk to you

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Speaker 3: about the labor. Show me the baby, show me the baby.

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Speaker 3: Your baby late ever, what to do date baby baby lay?

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Speaker 4: Every year we've got a twelve month baby.

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Speaker 3: I was probably everybody getting their babies out gestature your

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Speaker 3: It's just like, at some point in time, man, can

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Speaker 4: Baby talking words coming out right right?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, let's still hope, man, They still

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Speaker 1: hope it can get done. There's no good reason for

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Speaker 1: So you know, we've all said what the definition of

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Speaker 1: the season. You just want him there, hey, Cap, you

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Speaker 1: don't need no strained quads, no strained hamstrings because you

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Speaker 3: You just do that. And let's add this in here

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Speaker 3: as well. Guys probably should have mentioned this earlier. This

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Speaker 1: Is going to have in three So what is.

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Speaker 3: It Matt Eberflus wants to do with Parsons? You kind

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Speaker 3: to be fair to Brian Schottenheim, if you're going to

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Speaker 3: Get him there, get him there going, get him there happy.

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Speaker 3: Let's not drag this thing out. And I say all this.

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Speaker 3: Something could be done tomorrow, something over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's not hard to get it done. It's really not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anytime we've had these situations again, we can

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Speaker 1: come up with what the numbers are because they're just

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Speaker 1: slotting in the head of the last gay, the latest guy,

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Speaker 1: They had the cap room to do it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of getting it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the most mind numbing topic this entire offseason,

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Speaker 4: hands down, because you know what's going to get done.

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Speaker 4: It's a matter of times, a matter of if and win.

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Speaker 4: It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

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Speaker 4: But it's just it's it's my number to talk about

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We'd all predicted, just as we did with DAK and CD.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, you're right, and that this is the

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Speaker 4: Have to write one more contract story right in your world.

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Speaker 3: It's not only do you have to write it, but

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Speaker 3: it gets traffic. Yeah, So the bosses want it because

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Speaker 4: Getting you know, that's that's fascinating you bring that up,

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Speaker 3: CD and and I'll tell you one reason why this

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Speaker 3: and also the way ESPN pushes there, and you have

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Speaker 3: was so much debate and disdain from certain people about

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Speaker 3: There's not a level of disdain for Parsons the way

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Speaker 3: Even to this day. Still you have some reality he's

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Speaker 3: not worth this and I worked at that that everybody's

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Speaker 3: pretty much in agreement. Michael Parsons is an elite plat

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Speaker 3: pass rusher and one of the best in the game.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I think there's not as much because

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Speaker 3: it's it's not as polarizing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the better word I should have be should

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Speaker 3: be polariz Yeah, they that they have used that as

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Speaker 3: a polar If you're polarized about Michael Parson's I think

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Speaker 3: you don't know football.

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Speaker 4: And if you're like, if you're none to the contract talk,

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Speaker 4: just get ready for next offseason because it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: all this time one hundred. Not only do you have

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Speaker 4: Tyler Smith, you have Deron Bland. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: very fascinating one track. Uh, Trayvon Dicks, what is what

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Speaker 4: I mean the list goes down, We're gonna have some

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Speaker 4: fascinating ones.

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Speaker 1: I don't thank them lest to that fascinating.

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Speaker 3: So I would I would be game for that.

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Speaker 3: And you take fear, you take away. That's a that

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Speaker 3: I've got life I've got life changing money in my

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Speaker 4: It'll be all right, regardless.

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Speaker 3: Jack Taylor, the Carris is here. I am new. He scrugs,

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Speaker 3: all right, George Pickens change his number this week? Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is what it is. Is what it is.

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Speaker 1: will people will show you whether they cool, whether they're

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Speaker 1: they'll show it to you don't have to, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to wait too long. And so you know, so

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Speaker 1: I think it's cool that he's come down here taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of a new start to create new relationships, new environment.

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Speaker 1: Because the thing about the media is, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna keep it real with y'all. It's hard for fifty

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Speaker 1: year old white men to get down with twenty year

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Speaker 1: old black men and understand them and where they're coming from.

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Speaker 1: That's just a hard thing for them to do. And

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Speaker 1: that that age bracket has to say about a twenty

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Speaker 1: year old black football player. What about teammates, teammates I

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Speaker 1: paid more attention to, but again it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got their own deal some things. For example, if

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Speaker 1: you are a Cowboys, not me and new are about

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Speaker 1: to date ourselves, especially for you. But if you're Cowboys

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Speaker 1: in the early nineties, in the mid nineties, back when

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Speaker 1: they were winning Super Bowls and going the championship games

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Speaker 1: and stuff, if Jimmy Johnson was your coach, your teammates

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Speaker 1: may say one thing about you, because that's what leadership is.

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Speaker 1: If Barry Swiss is your coach, they may say another

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Speaker 1: thing about you because there's a different leaderships. So it's

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Speaker 1: a different expectation, it's different standards, different everything, And so

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Speaker 1: you know, you just have to give people room for

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Speaker 1: maturity and growth. I'm not the saying dude that was

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Speaker 3: Now you mentioned a word there that hits a lot

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Speaker 3: times too, is maturity and Randy. I tell people all time,

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Speaker 3: I truly believe Randy Moss succeeded because of where he

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Speaker 3: went to. Went to Minnesota. Here's Danny Green, there's Jake Reed,

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Speaker 3: there is Chris Carter, and that where he went to.

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Speaker 3: And I come back in this watch George Pickens and

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Speaker 3: just watching body language and trying to do and I

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Speaker 3: study a lot of just human nature. You going over

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Speaker 3: to Dak Prescott and sitting here and trying to be

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Speaker 3: around of it. Then what you've talked about here he is,

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Speaker 3: here's a dude with respect, Here's a guy that's that's it's,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting things done the right way. Let me

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Speaker 3: go over here Pittsburgh. We look at the quarterback situations

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Speaker 3: a lot. It's kind of messy, and it is still messy. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it is still messy in Pittsburgh. I at least give

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Speaker 3: the guy credit. And I go back to this business.

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Speaker 3: Philosopher's name is Jim Roney says, you know what, the

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Speaker 3: five people you hang around is going to tell a

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Speaker 3: whole lot about your life, financially, in educational, like the

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Speaker 3: five people around as a receiver to say, you know what,

485
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Speaker 3: here's Dak Prescott. Let me go hang around this guy.

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Speaker 3: See what he's doing here. Dak Prescott's had us to

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Speaker 3: me and I can I debate people this whole time?

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Speaker 3: Has a hell had a hell of a career. You know,

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Speaker 3: even Tony Romo with people you go from undrafted, free

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Speaker 3: age like Tony Romo and do it he and Lee

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Speaker 3: the way he did. Okay, hey, you know in terms

492
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Speaker 3: of that kind of that's a lot that Dak Prescott

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Speaker 3: wasn't in the fourth round pick. He was the second

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Speaker 3: fourth round pick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he could become the franchises all time leading pastor

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 3: Right, this guy's had a help for career. And so

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Speaker 3: for a guy like Pickings, you're coming over here for

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Speaker 3: that situation, a man, let go gravitate toward this guy

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Speaker 3: that shows him some common sense as opposed to wishing

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Speaker 3: Mozzie Smith would.

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Speaker 4: Him gravitated to anyone literally gravitated to anyone.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, yeah, So there's a lot more to go,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just going by it. Here's here's your sample size.

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Speaker 4: So the reason I ask about teammate, and I brought

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Speaker 4: this up on the on the show, I think the

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Speaker 4: day after the trade is uh, I grew up with

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Speaker 4: a player that's on the Steelers now, and I called

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Speaker 4: him the morning after the trade. I said, hey, you

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Speaker 4: know who is George Pickens? From your perspective. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna report anything. I'm just kind of here

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Speaker 4: like getting perspective here. And he had mentioned great teammates,

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Speaker 4: Like everybody in the locker room loves him. He's the

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Speaker 4: kid in class that all the kids love and all

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Speaker 4: the teachers hate. And it's it's professionalism. It was showing

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Speaker 4: up late to meetings, showing up late for await away

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Speaker 4: game flights, things like that. It's the little things. And

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Speaker 4: when you have a guy like George Pickens who's so

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Speaker 4: good on the field, it's kind of like a guy

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Speaker 4: that makes all the threes, you can trust him off

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Speaker 4: the bench, but when it comes to just making the

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Speaker 4: layups and making your free throws, he just can't get

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Speaker 4: it done. And so Dak great person, to gravitate too.

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Speaker 4: When you want to make your layups and make your

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Speaker 4: free throws. That's a guy who's made a lot of

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Speaker 4: layups and free throws. He needs more of the three pointers.

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Speaker 4: So if they can work together, he could work out

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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 3: So I tell everybody this. When you say that, immediately

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Speaker 3: in my mind, go back and watch the Last Dance

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Speaker 3: and how Jordan dealt with Dinnis.

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Speaker 4: I love all your Last Dance references. How many times

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Speaker 4: have you seen it through?

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Speaker 3: It is, you know, for a for a guy who

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Speaker 3: grew up in North Carolina, when you're right when he

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Speaker 3: was playing, when he was playing, my introduction to basketball

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Speaker 3: was eighty two. I just connected the dots, okay, and

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Speaker 3: just so you know, for that whole thing, to watch

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Speaker 3: the whole the whole thing, you know, because Dennis, while

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Speaker 3: he was with the Pistol into with Chuck Dave Dinnis

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Speaker 3: was a great citizen. When he went to San Antonio,

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Speaker 3: he became all that got away from it. And then

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Speaker 3: when he went to the Bulls, you know, they were

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Speaker 3: able to you know, bother, but it was it was

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Speaker 3: a guy like Michael Jordan and the respect he had,

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Speaker 3: you know, what he did in San Antonio with David Robinson.

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Speaker 3: He was to be a pull off of Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 3: And I think for a guy like was, a guy

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Speaker 3: like Pickens when you see Pete, you know, respect that's

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Speaker 3: so much. Sometimes it's just you can have all the

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Speaker 3: coaches you want to, it's dudes in the room to

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Speaker 3: kind of help get that done. And that's like with

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Speaker 3: the Randy Moss. You know, it's dudes in the room.

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Speaker 3: And I think a guy like Pickens, who's a talented guy,

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Speaker 3: will respect people who are here at that level.

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Speaker 4: It's a great point because who is the leader in

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Speaker 4: that locker room? Naja Harris maybe, and look where he

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Speaker 4: is now and he's gone. Yeah, you know, yeah, he's gone.

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Speaker 1: You have to respect your leadership, man, and it had

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Speaker 1: You know, every team's got some guys who proclaimed to

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Speaker 1: be leaders, who've been appointed leaders.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't respect them, it doesn't matter. But

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Speaker 3: let's also just understand this. Everybody wants to get paid. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you come in this game and you have an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: you want to get paid. You're playing for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: All the games they have on national TV in the spotlight,

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Speaker 3: they have me right out the gate Man, you're on

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Speaker 3: Thursday night. You know this is the opportunity for George

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Speaker 3: Pickens to get paid.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have a pregame segment, buddy, They're gonna look

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Speaker 4: at you with that number three jersey on in pregame

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Speaker 4: warm ups.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, so, whether whether it's here or somewhere else, if

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Speaker 3: George Pickens has an outstanding season, he's going to get paid.

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Speaker 3: And I remember Sparky Anderson who managed the Tigers, who

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Speaker 3: are World Series of the Cincinnati Reads a big red machine. Say,

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Speaker 3: you know, give me twenty five guys on a one

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Speaker 3: year deal win World Series. You know, dudes find a way.

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Speaker 3: I mean even DeMarco Murray, I mean DeMarco Murray seemed

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Speaker 3: like he was hurt all the time. He was even

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Speaker 3: hurting the US a free agent, but dog going to

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Speaker 3: dog NFL Offensive Player of the Year. I mean, dud dudes.

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Speaker 3: Dudes smell the bag, man, They smell a bag, and

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Speaker 3: Pickings shouldn't be any different than anyone else. Man, here's

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Speaker 3: a bag to be had by an owner who's willing

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Speaker 3: to give a bag, especially to an offensive player.

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Speaker 4: You might just get it the day before the season starts.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, but you know what, but it's there.

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Speaker 3: He don't deliver on time, he don't deliver when you

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Speaker 3: I just tod you.

650
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the crad.

651
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: I felt bad for that guy. I like Ryan day Man.

652
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: He didn't deserve that. He deserves treating that man like that.

653
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: But dog on it, they can't say they can't give

654
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: the Earl Bruce treatment anymore. Dog on it.

655
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: You better win another one next year, man.

656
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: Please, he does. Jeremiah Smith needs to cut off his

657
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: salary moving.

658
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: For you what I mean, See, that's the greediness of

659
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: a fan base. Like you win another one, you're lucky

660
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: if you just win one in your life. Man. One.

661
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Well we're on a pretty good pace. We won one

662
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: every decade and I'm cool with that.

663
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: If you win one, man, just that's that's that's to

664
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: be happy. It's hard, hey, man, I get that though.

665
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: It's hard. Some one of the things that always burns it.

666
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: Jane Smith should have won more like these like these

667
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: are easy. God, I'll come back here. They looking like

668
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: John Wooden. So I was lucky enough to work in

669
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: Los Angeles being around John Wooden and people forget me,

670
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: sixteen years win what the first one? These are hard.

671
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: It's as hard it's not.

672
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: It's been thirty years here. These things are hard to do.

673
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to win, man. I mean, they should have

674
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: won in No. Seven fourteen sixteen. They had opportunities. It

675
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: was all there in front of them. I'll get it done.

676
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: I'll disagree with you on those seven. Yeah, should have

677
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: been there, But I don't think they win the game.

678
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: If they go it don't matter. Just get there.

679
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: I mean, they played, they played the Patriots earlier in

680
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: the year, and it was it was no contact in

681
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: Texas Stadium.

682
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: That's what you know.

683
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: It's like a Mary Barber run though, the two yard run, the.

684
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: One hundred yard run, the game two yards times. But yes,

685
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: they should have been there. That's all I'm saying. They

686
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: had chances to get to the super Bowl. They just

687
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: haven't done it. And that's why there's so much disdaining

688
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: about quarter bait.

689
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: That And it's also I just man, there's there's kind

690
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: of a culture thing about this town. What do you

691
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: mean in the sports. I mean, there's been so much

692
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: in twenty five years that I've been here, and there's

693
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: been a lot more sports disappointment than the victory.

694
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Like the Devi Stars.

695
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, three straight, three straight and you can't even get

696
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: there to the final.

697
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: They got one and they got spanked in that one,

698
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: but they got to you know, so it's just just there.

699
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, when Tampa Bay and the and the

700
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: and the bubble and now look, Tampa Bay was you know,

701
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: that was a little dynasty they had, right, Tay was

702
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: a better team, you know, better team, But just you know,

703
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 3: it's we've seen it, man. FC Dallas, they finally get

704
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: to the front, they lose. I mean the MAVs the

705
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: first time O six, you go up to oh On Miami,

706
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: it's game three. I'm sitting here at the arena. They're up,

707
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: They're up thirteen with six to go, and I'm like, man,

708
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: I really don't want to sweep because I want to

709
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: stay in Southeast five days. I'm not trying to go back.

710
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: And then they lost the game and didn't win another one.

711
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: You say, to South Beach five days A Yeah, that

712
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: was you know that that that part was not bad

713
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: the hotel, right, yeah, you know, no, that was the

714
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: second time, Nick, that was the second time. That was

715
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: the second time. That was the second time. Yeah, the

716
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: first time we were fine. Second time was when we

717
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: got got we didn't know about that Memorial Day activity.

718
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, there's just been a lot of it,

719
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: a lot of disappointment. You know. I was reading the

720
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: other day about going back to the twenty eleven World

721
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: Series in Game six and you know, one strike away twice.

722
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was there for that.

723
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the Mona Lisa of Dallas Sports disappointment.

724
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was brutal.

725
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I having been at these games too. That

726
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: was I remembered going to Bush Stadium and because then

727
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: the guy ran the clubhouse, Hoggy Price, He's like, yeah,

728
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: he said, man, Nooster, we had to take the champagne

729
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: now because we had put the.

730
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: Plastic they you know, interviews with plastic in the background,

731
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: the T shirts.

732
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all there. And then so when you're

733
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: walking down there, you're passing all the families because that family,

734
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 3: the families are right there because they're you know, they're

735
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: ready there for the celebration too. And it's like, ooh, yeah,

736
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: I said, So when you say on Cowboys, it's it's

737
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: it's we've seen what two parades. I've seen two parades

738
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: in twenty five years.

739
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: Man, it's a fascinating point JJT. Because when they did

740
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: get it a couple of years ago, the Rangers, there

741
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: was still I don't know how y'all felt still in

742
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: the back of my mind that disappointment and hurt from

743
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: twenty eleven. It's like, yeah, it feels great, but now

744
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: I wish that twenty eleven team had it. Do you

745
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: think the Cowboys franchise will kind of have the same feeling.

746
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: It's like, when that time comes around, it's like, oh,

747
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: they should have had in sixteen. Though there's still disappointment there,

748
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: like a ring's a ring. Don't get me wrong.

749
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh those people are gonna be dead.

750
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: I think there's so much distance, no matter. So what

751
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: was interesting on the field in Arizona. There's Michael Young,

752
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: there's Ian cam And and there's Agent Beltrain. They were

753
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: all there and you know they're still young guys, and

754
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: you start thinking about the guys who played here to

755
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: the last one. I mean, you know, Troy A mean

756
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: is what fifty five?

757
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: No, we are saying nine, okay, So.

758
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: I mean these guys are you know versus you know,

759
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 3: these other dudes in Beltra. These guys worked to you know, decade,

760
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, plus from from playing in that in that series.

761
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: That's how Josh Hamilton about a month and a half ago,

762
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: you know, so you know it's still fresh to those guys.

763
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Josh Hamilton would have he'd have a statue out there.

764
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I've always said it had. The twenty eleven

765
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Rangers is like the Cowboys Super Bowl thirteen team, that

766
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: Cowboy team. There's a lot of gold Jackets lost that day.

767
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: And when the Rangers didn't win, it twenty eleven. There's

768
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: a lot of people's careers in textas that are changed.

769
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: Josh Hamilton's contract is done, he never leaves.

770
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: They can get home nine of the tenth.

771
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: To tenth hit the two run home at ten, so

772
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: doesn't get traded, none of it. Ron Washington is still

773
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: the manager. I mean, there's a lot of these things

774
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: are still here because there's now there's grace, and there's

775
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: a championship and you you forgive a whole lot when

776
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: you win and bring you know, he's our champion. Lives

777
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: are yeah, life. John Daniels has thought up differently. You know.

778
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: By the time when John, when John left here, man,

779
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: people were frustrated and they were mad. You put a

780
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: championship on it. You know, there's you get. You know,

781
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: there's a lot of gifting that you get. And you're

782
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: able to to to breathe a little bit, which your

783
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: guy Ryan Dad Ohio State, he's able to breathe. Mac

784
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Brown went through it down in Texas and when he

785
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: finally won it, man, hey, brother, that can breathe. Now

786
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 3: they're off me and it would have been the first

787
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: for the Ranger. So that's the other thing to win.

788
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: It's that first one. It's like, but Madonno and Hitchcock

789
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 3: and and Darien Hatchard, all those guys with the stars

790
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: have man, I mean those guys are still heroes to

791
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: this day. Yeah, those guys feel. I took my kid

792
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: to the game Sunday of the Range and there's a big, old,

793
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: beautiful mural of Michael Leng and I'm just like, I

794
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: hated that guy. He didn't get to have that. And

795
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: then I think about d Ware and being on the

796
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: field in San Francisco when he won the Super Bowl

797
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: with the Broncos and talking to Uncle Wag you away

798
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: he was down there too. It's like, man, you know,

799
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: you guys weren't able to get that feeling with the Cowboys,

800
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: and just how different your life is if you're able

801
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: to have that moment in a Cowboy uniform.

802
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: You do that in the Cowboys uniform, it's immortality.

803
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: Immortality, it's and I would tell people all the time,

804
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: and Drew Pearson hadn't played and caught a past his

805
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 3: eighty three and looked at how he's revered and thought

806
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: of in this town, Like that's that's what winning. Winning

807
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: in the town. It's like, you know, Albert Pool Holds

808
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 3: in Saint Louis. He left ten year deal, but he's

809
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: still that guy in Saint Louis because it's the Cardinals.

810
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: It's winning a championship in LA. If you're a Laker,

811
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 3: I mean, it just means more in a certain place,

812
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: being a champion with the New York Yankees. And yeah,

813
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: if you're a cowboy player and you're able to win

814
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: a championships, a whole different deal.

815
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: I mean, Charles Haley, he was barely here when you

816
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: factor in everybody else that was on those teams and

817
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: how long that they stayed on this team Charles Haley was.

818
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: He was here for a blink, but he won championships.

819
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: But the thing about Charles is he was that final

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: like he was he was like boom, that guy they

821
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: needed him. And and so while he wasn't here quote

822
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: unquote that long, everybody knew the importance of what he

823
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: brought to that defense. And especially in Super Bowl twenty

824
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: seven when they get the punt blocked and they're down

825
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: in the game and they helped turn things around. It's

826
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: a great NFL Films clip where he says, hey, guys,

827
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: let's not get excited, Butcher's over here. Trying to help

828
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: us out to the line coach Butch Davis at the time,

829
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys steadied themselves and then went on a

830
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: second quarter incredible run and win that game against the

831
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: Bills fifty two a deem the youngest team in the league,

832
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: but they had the number one defense they have, But

833
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Charles was such a huge part of that. They needed

834
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: that guy to get it done. And sometimes you're able

835
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: to make the proper trade for a veteran to get

836
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: it done. He comes from San Francisco with two Super

837
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: Bowl rings, like when San Francisco originally brought in Fred

838
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: Dean from the Chargers and he helped them win there

839
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: for a Super Bowl. Sometimes you get guys that but

840
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: we need you to help us get here and it

841
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: works out great, and and you're a legend for him

842
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: Dion going to San Francisco. They needed Dean to finally

843
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: help them get through and come with a swagger and

844
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 3: do these things like that. So yeah, holding the stats.

845
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: So Jack Sanborne will be that be that guy. George Pickens. Honestly,

846
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: I can see Pickens being that final piece of the offense.

847
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: But that defense needs help. Okay, what's the uh? I

848
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: was talking about this, What's what's the what's the bigger

849
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: issue on defense? And stop the run? Who's going to

850
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: play corner?

851
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: Stop the run?

852
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: Stop the run is the biggest thing. I mean, the

853
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: spine of that defense is so unreliable, and it's been

854
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: that way for five years.

855
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: I always go back to what Hall of Famer Warren

856
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: Sap said, back don't work without the front. And you know,

857
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: you just think about all your your great defenses, you know,

858
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: the the Steel Curtain, Doomsday, Purple people leaders. It was

859
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: about what was up front. And you can mask some

860
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: things of people in the back, but you know, I

861
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: don't I don't care how good you. I mean, you know,

862
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Speaker 3: if you're Deon Sanders, if nobody's getting at the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: you know it's gonna be hard. It'd be hard to

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Speaker 3: cover somebody for so long. I mean, you know they're

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Speaker 3: gonna get loose. So it's up front. And I think

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Speaker 3: about the five Super Bowl championship teams that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: have had here. All of those teams had fantastic D

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Speaker 3: linemen and had Hall of famers on the D line,

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Speaker 3: you know, from Bob Lily to Randy White toward Charles Hey.

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Speaker 3: They had guys up front and right now, it's a problem.

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Speaker 3: And when you're counting on Massie Smith right now, I

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Speaker 3: would not have a lot of confidence there because, as

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Speaker 3: Bill Parcels you say, all I go by is what

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Speaker 3: I see right now. I'm not seeing a run stopper there.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're a guy from UCLA J T. Can can

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Speaker 3: can get it done. But I'm concerned. And right out

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Speaker 3: of the gate, here's Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 4: If you could pick one player on this team to

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Speaker 4: have a Pro Bowl season, like okay, that that's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the guy, it's Mozzie Smith. I can hear an

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Speaker 4: argument for somebody else, but I really don't think there's

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Speaker 4: a strong one.

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Speaker 3: One text make Pro Bowls these days?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you do make a Pro Bowl as

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Speaker 4: a one sec it means you were a game wrecker.

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Speaker 4: It means it means you really didn't make some say

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Speaker 4: what yeah is like my, my, I guess the gauge

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Speaker 4: of good because there's like six of them that make

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Speaker 4: it these days.

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Speaker 3: How much you just become dependable, you know.

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Speaker 4: Give me a dependable Mazie Smith.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's really the that's the bar at this point,

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Speaker 3: Hey make you just be dependable and a guy they

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Speaker 3: can count on here and you know, and and and

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Speaker 3: even go back to do you care? That's that's that's

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Speaker 3: a question right now. Sometimes you wonder about how much

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Speaker 3: do you care?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: How much does this mean to you? You know? Once again,

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Speaker 3: Jack and I were around for the old days, man,

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Speaker 3: And I know it was saying to wide and think

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Speaker 3: about the old days and the old days, but you

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00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: knew dudes who cared, they had got that was that

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Speaker 3: was a prerequisite around. You had to care, and if

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Speaker 3: you didn't, you won't gonna be around.

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Speaker 1: Your teammates would hold you accountable for care.

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Speaker 3: Not the last dance reference with bj Armstrong said Michael

908
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Speaker 3: was hard to be around if you didn't care about basketing. Basically,

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Speaker 3: he was gonna run you off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Mike, and that's like Troy if

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Speaker 1: DJ Mike for sure. Yeah, you don't tell me.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it had to mean something to you,

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Speaker 3: because it meant something to them. They had what was it?

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Speaker 1: Somebody was telling me a story a few weeks ago. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he was a rookie and he was walking. Uh it

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Speaker 1: was ninety four rookie class and a couple of them

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Speaker 1: walked in the locker room for the first time. Mike's

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Speaker 1: in there half naked as usual. Guy said, just some

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Speaker 1: tights and some shoes. And somebody said they Mike, those

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Speaker 1: those those guys are part of the rookie class. And

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Speaker 1: they walked over there and stuck their hand out to

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Speaker 1: shake it. It might say, I don't give a bliep

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Speaker 1: about your handshake. How you're gonna help us win? And

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Speaker 1: this is coming off of back back Super Bowls. M

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Speaker 1: That's what it was about, how you're gonna help us win.

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Speaker 3: It was a stand out of here there was a standard,

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Speaker 3: was a standard.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get it back.

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Speaker 3: Shot. He's gonna try and get it back. He's talked about.

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Speaker 4: He's created a culture. Does the culture create the standard?

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Speaker 4: That's something we figure out at training camp, throughout the

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Speaker 4: season and his first year.

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Speaker 3: In a conversation will have later on. There's the culture.

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Speaker 3: But more important than the culture, you gotta figure what's

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Speaker 3: your climate. It's enough. That's a deeper conversation, deeper level right.

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Speaker 1: There, and culture, I mean none without players.

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Speaker 3: Climate matters.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 3: Bellichick won his first Super Bowl with guys that couldn't

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Speaker 3: have been. On his third Super Bowl winning team, So

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Speaker 3: you can, you can you have a couple of piece

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Speaker 3: this thing together a little bit. John Wooden's FIRS team

943
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Speaker 3: was a bunch of dudes. It was all six foot

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Speaker 3: four by the time, you know, he was winning six

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Speaker 3: and seven. You know them the kind of dudes wouldn't

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Speaker 3: have been able to play for him. So it all depends.

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Speaker 3: Nick Hares, thank you, Thank Doc Taylor, Thank you Chris Beam,

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Speaker 3: our producer, and Joshi back there. We appreciate. This has

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