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Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the top of the show. We
Speaker 1: have Matthew Judon joining us tonight. Matthew, as I spoke
Speaker 1: at the top, that you are free currently a free
Speaker 1: agent right now, So what is what are the next steps?
Speaker 1: What is what is in the future for Matthew Judon.
Speaker 5: Coming to Cincinnati?
Speaker 2: But go ahead?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: Well, shoot, if I came to Cincinnati, man, what they
Speaker 4: gonna do? They gotta they gotta get a trade, right
Speaker 4: don't they?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey yeah?
Speaker 4: So uh but right now I'm chilling. You know how
Speaker 4: to uh you know how to lead go h not
Speaker 4: for long? Uh, you know, I have fun and so
Speaker 4: right now I'm just chilling. So if I if I
Speaker 4: get a call, I'm working out. I'm doing everything I
Speaker 4: need to do to be in shape and ready for
Speaker 4: camp or a call any day. But uh, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot a lot of stuff not up to me.
Speaker 4: So I'm doing what I can do.
Speaker 5: Well, let listen. Now I'm gonna say listen, I don't
Speaker 5: watch you over he is I know what you could do.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: The product on yourself, your resumes speaks for itself. You're
Speaker 5: going to get that call.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Most of the time when we at this point in
Speaker 5: your career and then you're waiting do you have a
Speaker 5: preferred destination or would you would you would you just
Speaker 5: want to play football? Or do you would you rather
Speaker 5: go to a contender?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: After last year, I just want to play football.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I just want to want to just
Speaker 4: get back out there and be able to beat me,
Speaker 4: do me and so uh, you know, keep going forward,
Speaker 4: rushing the passer, Uh, things like that. But uh, you
Speaker 4: know everybody always have a preferred destination when you kind
Speaker 4: of get uh at this stage in your life, you know,
Speaker 4: you want to win games.
Speaker 3: You don't want to just go out there to compete. Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not really building a resume no more.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to win the championship. I want to compete
Speaker 4: at the highest level.
Speaker 1: You think about it, Matthew, are like you said, you're
Speaker 1: waiting for that call. But what if that how long
Speaker 1: are you willing to wait? Are you willing to go
Speaker 1: with a couple of games a week, a month into
Speaker 1: the season before you receive that call? Somebody get injured? Obviously,
Speaker 1: if somebody gets Dean or Nick in training camp, that
Speaker 1: call might come sooner than later.
Speaker 2: But how long are you willing to wait for that call?
Speaker 4: Uh? You know, you just wait. You know how, I'm
Speaker 4: not retired. I don't feel like I'm retire anytime soon.
Speaker 4: So right now I'm just waiting. So if it's if
Speaker 4: it's you know, week fifteen, week sixteen of the.
Speaker 3: Season, you know I'll be ready.
Speaker 4: I'm always gonna work out, you know, I'm always gonna
Speaker 4: I find you something to do different every year. So
Speaker 4: right now I'm big into Pilate's and then I got
Speaker 4: a roll bike that would be right.
Speaker 3: So I'm never going to be not in shape. But
Speaker 3: you know how it is with football.
Speaker 2: You know you got a shape. Being in shape different.
Speaker 4: You gotta get your body conditioned and take it hits
Speaker 4: getting back up the bruising h So you know I
Speaker 4: won't never get that condition.
Speaker 3: You only can get it in football.
Speaker 4: So right, I mean, whenever they Call'm be ready whenever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: One of the things that I always like and I
Speaker 5: always find interesting is ask some players that are not
Speaker 5: towards the end of their career, but but obviously in
Speaker 5: a situations like this where you're actually wait on the
Speaker 5: call to come, and do you have any other passions
Speaker 5: of hobbies that you're really enthusiastic about that if I'm
Speaker 5: just saying, hypothetically speaking, if that call then come, you know,
Speaker 5: finally I can go into that second stage of life
Speaker 5: and focus on whatever said hobby or dream it is
Speaker 5: yours outside.
Speaker 4: Of Oh you know, I really uh like I said,
Speaker 4: I really stay working out out kind of mostly through
Speaker 4: my whole career.
Speaker 3: And uh and I never wanted.
Speaker 4: To be gone for too long because I'd be like,
Speaker 4: I'm always thinking like I gotta be ready in shape.
Speaker 4: But if I do, if I don't get that call,
Speaker 4: and you know, uh, it ain't it ain't for me.
Speaker 3: It's not ridding the cars. I'm gonna trap.
Speaker 4: I'm getting up out the I'm getting up out the US.
Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm going to see some different things.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Earlier this summer, I went to South Africa. Uh that man,
Speaker 4: it was nice.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful. Uh and you know I'm I'm into nature.
Speaker 3: Uh and heights.
Speaker 4: So we hiked, uh me and one of my best
Speaker 4: friends from high school we hiked Cabletop Mountain and so, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna start doing.
Speaker 3: That and I'm gonna start doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then did you go on a safari? Did
Speaker 2: you did go to the Arunga Mountains? I mean, did
Speaker 2: you do anything like see anything? Big five?
Speaker 4: So so I gotta I gotta video, all right, okay,
Speaker 4: And the Safari man was kind of he was playing,
Speaker 4: but I got a video and he talking about the
Speaker 4: elephants as they walking in because we was on a
Speaker 4: little reserve where they keep the elephants in closed but
Speaker 4: they free is huge and the elephant walking right towards me.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, if this man don't move a vehicle,
Speaker 4: I'm about to get stepped on.
Speaker 3: And so we're just right there and he.
Speaker 4: Not with the vehicle off, He not moving the vehicle,
Speaker 4: and at the last minute.
Speaker 3: Like he turned it on and moved. But I got
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 4: A video, like I had to get ab out of there,
Speaker 4: like I'm running from an elephant.
Speaker 3: I'm about to get stepped on.
Speaker 4: But you know, just just seeing just seeing that type
Speaker 4: of stuff and it's upcoast in person. Ye man, like
Speaker 4: the world beautiful in the nature, all that stuff. And
Speaker 4: so I like to do that more. And then y'all
Speaker 4: got four kids to just traveling with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just see to see those animals in their natural habitat,
Speaker 1: not even an enclosure like at the zoo, but to
Speaker 1: see them in their natural habitat and to see how
Speaker 1: they interact with the other animals. Obviously, it's a prey,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a prey and a predator environment.
Speaker 2: So it's all about survival and that's all. It's about them.
Speaker 2: The Serengetti.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this, mate, you have a
Speaker 1: very Look, you started out with the Ravens, then you
Speaker 1: go to the Patriots, and then you go to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind share, because you, I mean, not
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people get an opportunity to play
Speaker 1: for the Ravens, you know, play for Ravens and the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and we know how you know, a lot of times
Speaker 1: it came down in the playoffs. They kicked the Patriots
Speaker 1: out of the playoff, Patriots kicked the Ravens out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they end up in and and and Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Can you give a little insight to the differences in
Speaker 1: the and the culture and and and and what's going on,
Speaker 1: like say, from Baltimore to New England and then Atlanta
Speaker 1: when you had raheem Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 4: I mean I think I think I was blessed to
Speaker 4: play with three different great coaches and they all different
Speaker 4: in their own ways, and I think the more relaxed
Speaker 4: and uh down the earth coach was a rock and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, h I felt like I was able to
Speaker 4: talk to him and connect with him on a different
Speaker 4: level because I'm I'm a veteran in this and kind
Speaker 4: of just how how we talk and how we talked
Speaker 4: as men and so uh, that was that was different.
Speaker 4: But uh going to the Patriots locker room, uh and
Speaker 4: playing alongside Devin and High Tower and you know, Kylevin
Speaker 4: Know and Jamie Collins and and just people like that.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't get the time, so I was
Speaker 4: in the post Tom Verdier.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: But you see how those those kind of players that
Speaker 4: played with him or played in that regime, how they
Speaker 4: worked ethics was different than so many other people. And
Speaker 4: not saying that I ain't played with like good players
Speaker 4: at Baltimore, but just those type of players.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I learned a lot a lot from them, And then
Speaker 4: I also learned a lot from uh like Matt Slater.
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all ever man, he was there.
Speaker 5: Slate was there when I was there.
Speaker 4: Man, Slave Slate been there. He a cornerstone of that franchise.
Speaker 4: And people like that and how how they prepare, how
Speaker 4: they work, and how they keep their bodies right. Uh.
Speaker 4: They they there from almost before the sun rise until
Speaker 4: the sun set, and and then and then when you
Speaker 4: see them with their families and so uh, it was
Speaker 4: just amazing to see something like that. And and I
Speaker 4: know that the younger players that came through there, they
Speaker 4: learned so much much from Bill, but they learned so
Speaker 4: much more from the culture of the locker.
Speaker 3: Room and how the locker room was ran and how
Speaker 3: and how like.
Speaker 4: The Bill didn't have to keep the ship tight because
Speaker 4: everybody else in front of you was.
Speaker 3: And uh. But then and then playing what under uh
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, he kept he kept young, He
Speaker 4: kept young coaches around him because he know, I think
Speaker 4: he knew that he wasn't never gonna connect with the
Speaker 4: players like the younger coaches. But but him just asked
Speaker 4: like getting in front of the meeting and just kind
Speaker 4: of his mannerisms and you know, his kind of jokes
Speaker 4: and and how he was and his knowledge of I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think he know everything about
Speaker 4: everything like you you asked him about.
Speaker 3: I mean, he might know he.
Speaker 4: Know a little more about the game than we do,
Speaker 4: like the girls than we do. He pull in, He
Speaker 4: pull in whatever he wants. So so uh so Bill
Speaker 4: like like he he know everything about everything and he
Speaker 4: and on Monday, he gonna tell.
Speaker 3: You how the game go. He how the how the
Speaker 3: game don't go for Sunday.
Speaker 4: Uh, and then he gonna he gonna stripped it out
Speaker 4: all week and then uh and then you know, after win, loser, draw,
Speaker 4: he gonna have the same mentality.
Speaker 3: So I really respected that from him. And then uh,
Speaker 3: the Ravens.
Speaker 4: Like I was a baby, I was, uh you know,
Speaker 4: I got I got trained, I got trained by Terrell Sugz.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, you know I got to I got to
Speaker 4: play with Steve Smith, Mike Wallace, Crabtree. Uh, you know
Speaker 4: some guys that you know I just watched growing up,
Speaker 4: watched getting into the game.
Speaker 3: I got to.
Speaker 4: I got to play with Darious Web And then I
Speaker 4: still I still got friends, uh like like true genuine friends.
Speaker 4: We talk every day from from that team and so
Speaker 4: uh so it was just different. It was just different.
Speaker 4: It's different at different stages of my career, you know.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: At one point in time, you know, I never made
Speaker 4: plays in the NFL. Then one point and then at
Speaker 4: the next the next stage, you know, you know, they
Speaker 4: like I have to make plays. I'm getting paid. I
Speaker 4: got paid to make plays. And then uh then I
Speaker 4: went through a trade and see period, I got traded.
Speaker 4: You know, they traded me on my birthday too, like
Speaker 4: kind of crazy, but uh yeah, so uh but I
Speaker 4: traded and then coming into a locker room trying to
Speaker 4: trying to see, like how you fit in where they
Speaker 4: see you as in the last year of my contract.
Speaker 3: So you like you're like ship is y'all gonna.
Speaker 2: Keep me around?
Speaker 3: Pay me? Uh? But you know, it was just different
Speaker 3: parts of the locker room.
Speaker 4: And then I think I got to play, like with
Speaker 4: one of the greatest quarterbacks that's ever gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: play Lamar like I never I never say nothing bad
Speaker 4: about he, Like like, uh, anytime I speak about him,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be highly Uh.
Speaker 3: I think he know that. But oh when it when
Speaker 3: it comes down to it, I think, uh he gonna
Speaker 3: be one of the best to ever do it.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Are you do you wish the situation had played out
Speaker 1: differently the way the situation ended in New England? Do
Speaker 1: you do you look back and said you could have
Speaker 1: done something differently, handle it differently. They could have handled
Speaker 1: it differently. What would you if you could go back now,
Speaker 1: knowing what you know now, what would you like to read?
Speaker 2: What would you like to redo? What would the redo be?
Speaker 2: What would the doe?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know it. I ain't know.
Speaker 3: I ain't really know big Redo peep person.
Speaker 4: But I do play stuff back in my mind though,
Speaker 4: like you know, like like do I do I have
Speaker 4: to say this? Like it was it wasn't necessary, but
Speaker 4: I feel like in a moment, man, we're human, like, uh,
Speaker 4: if somebody, if somebody, I treat you like that, like
Speaker 4: it ain't never gonna go. It ain't never gonna go.
Speaker 4: Overwhelmed with me like I go, I gotta say something.
Speaker 4: I gotta say something. So that's just me. But uh,
Speaker 4: I would have made sure I never left New England.
Speaker 4: I would have made sure I never left Boston. Uh,
Speaker 4: the connections in Boston like uh, I don't think it's
Speaker 4: I don't think it's no other place like you know, uh,
Speaker 4: from the Bruins to the Celtic to the rest like
Speaker 4: like like I know players from each team you know,
Speaker 4: and uh, and we cordial. It's it's not like no
Speaker 4: big ups or nothing, and and we cordial and just
Speaker 4: uh from the people down on Newberry Street to the restaurants.
Speaker 3: Like when you when you down there and you're you
Speaker 3: in it like.
Speaker 4: You you uh, you the musician, you, the you, the
Speaker 4: you know, the the.
Speaker 3: Demand, the demand a high school.
Speaker 4: That Like that's how I feel like when you in
Speaker 4: Boston playing well and you're a part of the New England.
Speaker 2: Like when you're a.
Speaker 4: Part of that, like it's not nowhere you can't go
Speaker 4: that you want you to feel like I ain't supposed
Speaker 4: to be here. Everything welcome and everything open, So I
Speaker 4: would I would have made sure I never left the building.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this NFL news, guys. The
Speaker 1: Stealers have found their starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers put pen
Speaker 1: the paper on a one year deal. He signed a
Speaker 1: one year thirteen point six five million dollars of passing
Speaker 1: the physical at the team facility on Saturday. Sources told
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter the deals include ten million guaranteed and with incentives,
Speaker 1: can reach nineteen point five million. Oh Joe, let's go
Speaker 1: to you. What do you think? What do you What
Speaker 1: are your expectations from Rodgers and what will he give
Speaker 1: the Steelers.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, he would he give the Stealers. You give
Speaker 5: the Steelers hope, you give the Steelers organization, you give
Speaker 5: the Steelers fans. He gives him hope. You look at
Speaker 5: the AFC North, It's dominated by Lamar Jackson Joe Burrow,
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure what the Cleveland situation is going
Speaker 5: to look like. But flack O obviously has has inside
Speaker 5: tracked and starting, yeah, inside track, because he's been in
Speaker 5: the AFC nor before being in Baltimore and then having
Speaker 5: success in Cleveland when he when he came in to
Speaker 5: start for Deshaun Watson when he got hurt. So Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers is better than everything that the Steelers have outside
Speaker 5: of him at the quarterback position. And that's no disrespect
Speaker 5: to them. That's no disrespect to Mason Rudolph and whoever
Speaker 5: else they have there they have at the Helm. But
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, if he can show glimpses, just glimpses of
Speaker 5: what he was once in the past, I think they
Speaker 5: would be okay. They have enough pizzas around him, obviously.
Speaker 5: DK Metcalf, I'm not sure who the who the who
Speaker 5: the running back is.
Speaker 2: They got Austin and they got Robert Woods.
Speaker 5: Robert Woods is there, he has he has a nice
Speaker 5: supporting cast around him, and you need the support and
Speaker 5: cast to be on point to make it job easier.
Speaker 5: Because Aaron Rodgers is not in the position again to
Speaker 5: elevate those around him. He going to need to help
Speaker 5: from those he's surrounded by.
Speaker 2: What do you think you done? What you think about
Speaker 2: this deal? You like? You like it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I think uh. I think the stealers are like they
Speaker 4: are there. They get hurt from the greatness of Mike
Speaker 4: tom Mike Tomlan always gonna have them in contention, so
Speaker 4: they can't go and form a quarterback from the draft.
Speaker 4: So I think this they I think this is their
Speaker 4: best pick. Like there's nobody else out there. Uh listen,
Speaker 4: there's nobody else unless you want to make a trade,
Speaker 4: but nobody really trading no good quarterback like that. And
Speaker 4: so uh if Aaron Rodgers had come in and complete
Speaker 4: passes and be good in the locker room and do enough,
Speaker 4: they gonna be in the playoffs again because just how
Speaker 4: Mike Thomlins had that physical defau Yeah, you're always gonna
Speaker 4: have a great pass rush with with Cam and TJ like,
Speaker 4: so it's gonna it's gonna be hard for them to
Speaker 4: be bad.
Speaker 3: They just can't mess it up on offense.
Speaker 1: The team announced that Rogers will wear the number eight.
Speaker 1: He wore the same number in New York after wearing twelve.
Speaker 3: In Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Cherry Bradshaw wore number twelve, and though it's not officially retired,
Speaker 1: the team doesn't typically give out that number. I think
Speaker 1: Joe Green seventy five. I think Ernie Stoutner seventy. I
Speaker 1: think though, I think it's like three numbers that are
Speaker 1: officially officially retired.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they've they've given out like thirty two.
Speaker 1: Whatever the number that is another number that I don't
Speaker 1: think they've given out fifty eight, forty seven like Lamb
Speaker 1: mal Blunt. But they are certain, you know, obviously from
Speaker 1: that Steel Curtain era in which they won force some
Speaker 1: Bowl in six years, some of those guys have numbers,
Speaker 1: and even though they're not officially retired, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's worn those numbers since. But I know I think
Speaker 1: Joe Green, yep, Frank o'harris okay, Ernie Stoutner de tackle
Speaker 1: his numbers retired seventy Joe Green seventy five, Frank o'harris
Speaker 1: thirty two. Numbers not officially retired but not reissued, Terry
Speaker 1: Bradshaw's twelve, Troy Polamalu forty three, Jack Lambert's fifty eight,
Speaker 1: Jack Ham fifty nine, DERMONDI. Dawson's sixty three, and number
Speaker 1: eighty six Hines Ward.
Speaker 5: M Well eighty six retired.
Speaker 1: It's not retired, but they haven't reissued it as well.
Speaker 5: You know, you know also you know Aaron Ward eight
Speaker 5: it at New York, but you know he was eight
Speaker 5: at Colt. Yeah, cally Well he was eight. So hopefully
Speaker 5: you can get some of that, some of that that
Speaker 5: that cal Berkeley magic back in the system. Tho they
Speaker 5: help those stealers out because listen, if.
Speaker 1: That's a very tough division at the top. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the great in Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. If he doesn't play well, If he doesn't
Speaker 5: play well, you know, players get coaches fired. Man and
Speaker 5: Tomin could be on the hot seat for making Obviously
Speaker 5: he had he had him wait, he had the whole
Speaker 5: organizations waiting he's coming. And obviously he signed because they
Speaker 5: got Mini camp coming up very soon. Manator for Mini
Speaker 5: Camp and he wants to be a part of that,
Speaker 5: which is also a good thing. That's a good sign.
Speaker 5: That lets that lets me know that he's buying it
Speaker 5: as opposed to what he did last season out there
Speaker 5: in New York. So that's a good thing. But I
Speaker 5: think that they have a bad season. Think you think,
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin on hot seat?
Speaker 2: No excuse me? Did you signed an extension? That don't matter?
Speaker 5: What that mean?
Speaker 3: They pay that all every year.
Speaker 1: Listen, they were they was already talking about it last year.
Speaker 1: Bro ste Steelers haven't fired the coach in sixty nine.
Speaker 1: I was born in sixteen. Im about to be fifty seven,
Speaker 1: So they haven't fired the coach in fifty six years.
Speaker 1: And you just said Judi and the man hadn't had
Speaker 1: a losing.
Speaker 3: He never gonna have a losing season.
Speaker 4: He trained him so well, they played so hard for
Speaker 4: Mike Thomas, He's never gonna have a losing season.
Speaker 5: That's enough. That's enough, just having just having this year.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's enough because he the
Speaker 1: one that said the standard is the standard. Well, if
Speaker 1: the standard is getting to and competing for Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they ain't competed for a Super Bowl a long time
Speaker 1: that nobody thought, even though they make the playoffs, oldest man,
Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't threat. When was the last time that
Speaker 1: someone thought that Steelers would be a threat in the playoffs?
Speaker 5: But when they had Parla malo, when they had Ike Taylor.
Speaker 1: Man Parla Malu retired. He in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: So he had to wait at least five years to
Speaker 1: get into the hall. So we thought about the least
Speaker 1: at the bare minimum five.
Speaker 5: Were you you asked when that's that's ass Winton, when
Speaker 5: they had to wait, when their identity was their defense.
Speaker 3: They hadn't been a serious threat since being But but
Speaker 3: do you mean that mean change? Does that mean change?
Speaker 3: We ain't been.
Speaker 4: A serious stat or or we have been so consistent
Speaker 4: that we just haven't got the right players, and they haven't.
Speaker 4: They haven't had a quarterback that's there since being here?
Speaker 3: Whose part is that there's consistence.
Speaker 1: They had an opportunity they kill it you and they
Speaker 1: had been Roethlisberger, and they thought Bread was gonna pay
Speaker 1: play like Tom Brady. You know he wasn't because he's
Speaker 1: been involved in too many crashes. He's taking too much punishment.
Speaker 1: So what you do is that what good teams do.
Speaker 1: What did Kansas City do draft the quarterback and they
Speaker 1: still had one on the roster. What did Baltimore do
Speaker 1: when they had Joe Flacco? You were there, they drafted
Speaker 1: a quarterback? You see what good team? What did Green
Speaker 1: Bay do? Draft the quarterback? What the Green Bay do
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers? Draft the quarterback? You see what everybody does?
Speaker 1: You don't wait. If you wait to your car break
Speaker 1: down side the road, it's too late. You're already spraying it.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but it's that my fault.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you'll think might got no sake.
Speaker 4: If he say get us a quarterback, get us a quarterback, Please,
Speaker 4: get us a quarterback, and they don't get us a quarterback.
Speaker 3: And how y'all gonna get mad at me?
Speaker 1: You know, you give Mike all that, you give all
Speaker 1: that my credits say, he never gonna have he never
Speaker 1: gonna have him in a losing situation. So who drafting
Speaker 1: those players? The dream of Mike Tomblin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we don't know what go on in
Speaker 4: the war room, but you can't you can't just say, well,
Speaker 4: that's Mike Tomland, Mike tom won a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Matt hold On Joe Matthew, You mean to tell me
Speaker 1: a man that's been there, damn there twenty years?
Speaker 2: He ain't got no fake.
Speaker 3: How long the Jim been there?
Speaker 2: Not not as long as Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 4: I ain't never heard of still as fined no gym
Speaker 4: or getting a new gym.
Speaker 2: And I heard him. I tell you what you ever
Speaker 2: heard of him? Fired the coach exactly.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, when you're there that long, you
Speaker 1: have some say you have some sale free the fifty three,
Speaker 1: you have some saying free agency, and you that how
Speaker 1: long Mike Tomlin been there? My coach, Kyle retired in
Speaker 1: two two thousand, they won the Super Bowl in five.
Speaker 1: He came back in six, so he retired in seven.
Speaker 1: He's been there in nineteen years. You not. There's no
Speaker 1: coach that's been anywhere for nineteen years that does not
Speaker 1: have safe I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 5: I don't know who hold on hold on, Jude, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't even think it's about saying I'm thinking about
Speaker 5: the relationship that Ben Roethlisberger might have had with upper management.
Speaker 2: With those great relationship with Mike Tomlin too.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: Because if Mike Thomlin, Mike Tomin was the head coach,
Speaker 5: He's been in the NFL for a very long time. Mike
Speaker 5: COmON knows at some point, I'm going to have to
Speaker 5: find your successor. At some point. You look at you,
Speaker 5: you look at the landscape of the league. Those that
Speaker 5: didn't do it, Look what's happening now do.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 5: That's why, that's why I think that the calling was
Speaker 5: above Mike Tomlin's pay grade.
Speaker 2: I just agree.
Speaker 4: I know, yo, a, your starring court back, your franchise quarterback,
Speaker 4: is getting paid more than the coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, the relationships.
Speaker 4: Might be a little stronger than the even though the
Speaker 4: coach been there longer, he's more team I think, well,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're paying this due only seventeen million a year.
Speaker 3: We're paying this dude fifty.
Speaker 1: We understand that Mike Tomlin had a very strong relationship.
Speaker 1: He's always had a very strong relationship with his star players.
Speaker 1: We know that based on the history. We know that
Speaker 1: being and when Ab was there and a lot of
Speaker 1: these other guys. We know how he feels about his
Speaker 1: great players. But in order to keep this from happening
Speaker 1: to you, if you do not get a bridge. If
Speaker 1: you wait till somebody burn your bridge down, how the
Speaker 1: hell do you get to the other side. I gave
Speaker 1: you example Kansas City Alex Smith was a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 3: What did they do, Matt?
Speaker 2: What a super Bowl?
Speaker 3: But when you see that, when you see that.
Speaker 4: Mm hm, they went and got uh wis buddy from
Speaker 4: pitt They went and got.
Speaker 1: Man stop playing picketing out front.
Speaker 3: No, we won't go. We gotta put that on somebody.
Speaker 2: We got.
Speaker 3: We gotta put that on somebody.
Speaker 4: When when somebody don't turn out in the draft, how
Speaker 4: you think they are not saying he's a bad player.
Speaker 4: They didn't like him for the system and they didn't
Speaker 4: like what he was doing, so they had to move on.
Speaker 4: Do you put that on the coach or do you
Speaker 4: put that on a person that selects and pays the players.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that I believe there
Speaker 1: there are drafts that they had better quarterback options.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You could sit back and say, you know what, next year,
Speaker 1: this quarterback is good, but you have to move.
Speaker 2: What did the Green Bay do Jordan? What did they
Speaker 2: do with Jordan Love?
Speaker 1: How much was they paying Aaron Rodgers and they and
Speaker 1: after they signed him, they gave him a big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came.
Speaker 1: He was pissed off, absolutely, And just like Brett Farr
Speaker 1: was pissed off when they did what drafted Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: I mean then Aaron Rodgers seen a situation playoffs, he
Speaker 4: said he already he already knew what was in the car.
Speaker 4: So he said, all right, y'all not gonna play me.
Speaker 4: How y'all played Brett, and just move on. I can't
Speaker 4: worry about one year. I got to worry about the
Speaker 4: next ten fifteen years. So if you just worry about
Speaker 4: one year and one guy's feelings, you'll be stuck. All right,
Speaker 4: those in those nineteen years, In those nineteen years, I
Speaker 4: mean what they I think the only the only player
Speaker 4: that would have felled that far to him, which is
Speaker 4: a bad pick, was Lamar.
Speaker 1: No, it's not that you fought. You move up, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: They moved up to get Patrick Mahomes. They moved, they
Speaker 1: moved up to get Jordan Love. You don't have to
Speaker 1: stay at seat you looking at the philosophy. Let somebody
Speaker 1: fall into my lap. No, if there's somebody, you move
Speaker 1: up to go get them.
Speaker 5: And that's where what I said comes into play. Uncle,
Speaker 5: not pissing off your franchise quarterback. I think the relationship
Speaker 5: with Ben Roethlisberger and management in GM and president was
Speaker 5: much stronger than that of whatever Mike Tomler might have wanted.
Speaker 5: You think Tomon didn't want a quarterback when he realized
Speaker 5: being Okay, you're not moving the same, Oh Ben, you
Speaker 5: can't throw the same or the velocity on the ball
Speaker 5: is not the same. Mike Toman can see that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he didn't have to say so, regardless of being the
Speaker 5: coach for nineteen years to go and get who we wanted.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing you still got. You maintained that
Speaker 1: great relationship. Now, how you looking this part? Because the Steelers,
Speaker 1: what's the standard for the Steelers. When we think of Steelers,
Speaker 1: we think of what oh Jr. Championship Championship?
Speaker 4: No, No, you think of defense? Sal you think you
Speaker 4: think of steel Mike townand that's his defense.
Speaker 2: That they got.
Speaker 1: They got Ben Roethlisberger, and they had Antonio Brown and
Speaker 1: they had leveyon Bell. They've been abandoned the defense when
Speaker 1: they had the triple bs, they were throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisbergers got two five thousand yard seavers. He's got
Speaker 1: four or five hundred yard games.
Speaker 3: They've been abandoned that.
Speaker 2: They just had.
Speaker 4: They had they had a exposal offense for five six years.
Speaker 4: They had like they had his sposal offense. They always
Speaker 4: had a good wide receiver. They always had a good
Speaker 4: wide receiver. Somebody get the ball, take the top off.
Speaker 4: They always gonna have that defense. When you think Steelers,
Speaker 4: you think hard hitting defense.
Speaker 3: You know you know when you.
Speaker 4: Hear that, Hey, Mamroun, you hear that, don't you know
Speaker 4: that it is about to do something.
Speaker 3: You know that. You know that, you know it's gonna
Speaker 3: be cold, rainy, wet when you go in there.
Speaker 4: The grass grass ain't worth nothing, but the defense gonna
Speaker 4: have to come to play. And so if you're gonna
Speaker 4: beat the Steelers, you have to keep the ball, You
Speaker 4: have to know how to run the ball, and you
Speaker 4: have to limit.
Speaker 3: Exposed to plays from their offense. That's all you gotta.
Speaker 3: That's how you be distabed when.
Speaker 1: The last time they've had explosive plays from the offense.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's been gone, A Be's been gone, Leveyon Bell
Speaker 1: been gone, so what if you know the Steelers that
Speaker 1: have explosive plays.
Speaker 4: And that's why that's why George Pickins left the building. George,
Speaker 4: George Pickens want to be he wanna, he wanna dance,
Speaker 4: he wanna he want to be in the ends all
Speaker 4: he wanna he want to do that. That's why George
Speaker 4: Pickens left the building. He said, I have I need.
Speaker 4: I need to the linel like I want. I want
Speaker 4: to see I want to see how that feels. He
Speaker 4: want to be Jamar Chase. He wanted he's seen he's
Speaker 4: seen what that look like in the division, and he said,
Speaker 4: I can't get that here.
Speaker 1: Right, Matthew, thanks for joining us tonight, man, best de
Speaker 1: luck you free agency. Come back when you when you
Speaker 1: get something penciled in, come back in Jordans and let
Speaker 1: us know.
Speaker 2: Where you're going.
Speaker 3: All right, I got y'all appreciate it, bro, all right, my.
Speaker 2: Boy, Oh Joe, Hey, hey, y'all.
Speaker 5: Hey, before you start, like like real quick, real quick,
Speaker 5: I just I just want to say something to you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it in Coldlon, but you understand what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, even even though it's Mike, Even though it's Mike.
Speaker 5: I don't think he has the pool, even though he's
Speaker 5: the head coach to override pissing off the franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2: Stay with me. He got I get you what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But he got more do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, because he's been there so long. But with that,
Speaker 5: with that centerpiece that been there, that lot.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: got had Bill Belichick pool. I'm not saying he got
Speaker 1: Andy Reid type pool, but he might have. He might
Speaker 1: be next in line with when it come to pool.
Speaker 5: Right right, right right, I got you, I got you, well,
Speaker 5: same thing.
Speaker 1: Can think about it. They went out, they got Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: who led them to a super Bowl. What they gonna
Speaker 1: do They trade back into the first round, give up
Speaker 1: next year's first round pick to get Lamar.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know you can see it, right, you know
Speaker 5: you when your player is declining, Yes, things are the same,
Speaker 5: especially at the quarterback position, you can see it. The
Speaker 5: funny thing about it is how much do players or
Speaker 5: how much are they self aware that they're declining. It
Speaker 5: starts slipping.
Speaker 1: It's hard because oko, you don't want to believe it,
Speaker 1: because you've been great for so long you don't want
Speaker 1: to believe it, and so oot to yourself. You lie
Speaker 1: to yourself, You lie to yourself.
Speaker 5: Hey boy, you turn that film on and be like
Speaker 5: it is that damn damn?
Speaker 2: He moving slow?
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh that's me. Man who like they got
Speaker 1: on tims who run it like they got Tim's on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 5: Where that camera, that camera, that eye in the sky
Speaker 5: will embarrass Yes?
Speaker 1: Uh oh Joe Adam Fanler the cast deck. We we
Speaker 1: ain't got I mean, we ain't got what you call him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, you just wrote that in there. That what you
Speaker 1: just wrote this This tweeted.
Speaker 5: That Webb well well weeb.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jordan Tuck, Yeah, Jordan Tuck made a good point on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Imagine moving on from George Pickens thinking the locker room distraction,
Speaker 1: only to end up with Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean Aaron Rodgers is a different type of distraction,
Speaker 5: a different type of distraction. Now, obviously I think he
Speaker 5: knock going to cause any problem because his lease is short.
Speaker 5: Because if you know that.
Speaker 2: He is back up sorry, his least long hold.
Speaker 5: Listen, you messed things up in Pittsburgh. Where's your next destination?
Speaker 5: Where's your next home? I mean about heat. That's what
Speaker 5: I meant you you have the leverage. You don't have
Speaker 5: the leverage you once had, were sought after, were you
Speaker 5: wanted the best in the league. You're still living off
Speaker 5: that past resume, which is why I wanted and waited
Speaker 5: for you to sign this late before mandatory mini camp,
Speaker 5: because they don't have any other options.
Speaker 1: Right, So at twenty a year twenty one, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be his twenty first season. How many
Speaker 1: more seasons do you think he really want to play?
Speaker 1: He want to subject himself getting up studying film, studying
Speaker 1: film all day money, studying film all day Tuesday, watching
Speaker 1: film after practice on Wednesday Thursday.
Speaker 2: And you know how long you think Aaron Rodgers wants
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 5: Listen, hey, when you see what the AFC Nord's like,
Speaker 5: ain't no tailor where he might be one and done
Speaker 5: after this season.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 1: I mean, at twenty, I mean you take it first
Speaker 1: of all, once you get to a certain number of years,
Speaker 1: you take it eight. I probably a quarterback. Other positions
Speaker 1: probably take it year teen. Quarterbacks probably take it a
Speaker 1: year fifteen, especially if the way they protect him now
Speaker 1: so he's gotten six years past year fifteen. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: like Yeah, I don't think you try to eclipse Tom.
Speaker 1: He tried to play twenty four. You think you try
Speaker 1: to play twenty four seasons. Ain't no telling, Ain't no telling.
Speaker 5: Because I obviously they will continue to sign in the
Speaker 5: one year deals if things go well.
Speaker 3: I listen.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a very ten friendly contract. I mean
Speaker 1: thirteen ten guarantees.
Speaker 5: Nothing nothing, that's nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm listen.
Speaker 5: I love the Steelers. I don't want them to do well.
Speaker 5: I want them to do well, except when they play
Speaker 5: the Bengals. I want DK Metcalf, I want Calvin Alston
Speaker 5: the third, and I want Robert Moore. They have Robert Woods,
Speaker 5: Robert Woo, I'm sorry, Robert Woods. They have phenomenal seasons
Speaker 5: like they can. I just want to see him do well.
Speaker 5: For Mike Tomin's sake, I steal a fans has always
Speaker 5: been good to me. I fucking love all of them.
Speaker 5: But when you play the Bengals, y'all neat, y'all ass for.
Speaker 1: Oh Yoe, we all heard with Joe Flacko's comments about
Speaker 1: being a mentor or not being a mental should do
Speaker 1: them well Russell Wilson was asked about how he approaches
Speaker 1: mentorship with Giants QB Room, including first round draft pick
Speaker 1: Jackson dark.
Speaker 2: I've always viewed it as I'm always tried.
Speaker 1: To be at the very version of you, and then
Speaker 1: you're always giving back to everyone else. I think I
Speaker 1: think that's just not about one teammate. It's about all
Speaker 1: the teammates. It's about everybody in the building. It's about
Speaker 1: from all the way to the from the quarterback room
Speaker 1: to the.
Speaker 2: Receivers to the running back.
Speaker 1: So it's like, to me, it's all inclusive, and that's
Speaker 1: always the approach. Russe says. I'm not just trying to
Speaker 1: mindle the quarterbacks. I'm trying to mindle receivers. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to mentor running backs. I'm trying to be the best
Speaker 1: because I feel if I give to you, you're going
Speaker 1: to give back to me, and then we'll all give
Speaker 1: back to.
Speaker 2: The team and then we'll succeed. You look what Russ
Speaker 2: had to say.
Speaker 5: Can you can't ask that man Rush? That's the preacher.
Speaker 5: The preacher always gonna say the right thing. Huh Okay,
Speaker 5: can't you can't ask You can't ask Rush that man?
Speaker 5: You got to ask You got to ask somebody else
Speaker 5: that question. You know, Russ is going to always say
Speaker 5: the right thing. Russ is gonna run for office. What's
Speaker 5: gonna run for mayor? Hell, R's gonna run for goddamn president, right, man,
Speaker 5: he had he has the gift, the gap. He understands
Speaker 5: the position that he's in. He's been afforded another opportunity
Speaker 5: to prove himself, which I think he will do. But
Speaker 5: in that situation, he has to say that does he
Speaker 5: really do that way? Absolutely not. Hell, this motherfucker is
Speaker 5: here to take my goddamn job. Yeah, he first round
Speaker 5: pick out of my mouth, he's the first round pick.
Speaker 3: I know, my least is short.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he like to say that, does he really feel
Speaker 5: absolutely not as a competitor as a football player.
Speaker 2: And the thing and the thing is, though, Jose, look
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how long.
Speaker 1: You know, Russ came in in twenty twelve, So this
Speaker 1: is year what fourteen for us?
Speaker 2: Your fourteen for us?
Speaker 3: Good years?
Speaker 5: Good yees.
Speaker 2: So we're like, man, you try to speed up my
Speaker 2: process to get out of the league.
Speaker 5: I'm on that. That's what it is. I mean. Mentors, man,
Speaker 5: she better, you better, you better, get it on your own. Hey,
Speaker 5: just think about just think about that, people in the chat,
Speaker 5: people in the chat that's listening. Think about somebody coming
Speaker 5: to your job that's brand new and your boss telling
Speaker 5: you who train them to take your job?
Speaker 2: That's all it is.
Speaker 5: And when you do a mentor as like as if
Speaker 5: what you mean mentor like come on now, they make
Speaker 5: it sound like it's a good thing, but it's really
Speaker 5: not a good thing. The person is there to replace you.
Speaker 5: When you're telling me the training will take my job.
Speaker 1: Talk about don't you get a man some porters on
Speaker 1: your damn who tell the man how to beat man coverage?
Speaker 1: Tell the man how to god sit down in his zone, look,
Speaker 1: turn on the film. Got to talk to him, he said, man,
Speaker 1: he let me tell you what I do.
Speaker 2: Then what you do? This is what this is what
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 5: Then, because listen you we don't we don't have the
Speaker 5: same DNA. We don't have the same DNA, we don't
Speaker 5: have the same quick twitch fibers. So even if I
Speaker 5: do tell you what to do, you're not gonna be
Speaker 5: able to do it because I stopped.
Speaker 2: I just want you to tell if I just want
Speaker 2: to say, hey, I learn from Ocho.
Speaker 5: Nah, listen you Blad play mad Mad tell you how
Speaker 5: to get open on everything.
Speaker 1: Hey, remember how they've got everybody to bet that we
Speaker 1: trained with Kobe. I trained what Elija want? You know,
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, I just want to
Speaker 1: say I trained with I want to trade with I
Speaker 1: trained with Bruce Lee. Ye, that's why I want to
Speaker 1: say I trained with Bruce Lee.
Speaker 5: Hey, and don't look nothing like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's gonna have their opinions.
Speaker 1: It's it's very I mean, it all depends on the
Speaker 1: quarterback because you know, but that's the reason why if
Speaker 1: you notice starting quarterbacks they take the kneel down and
Speaker 1: everything they don't and they do not Andrey they're gonna
Speaker 1: fight through injured because they don't want you to get
Speaker 1: a look at the backup. The last thing I want you, man,
Speaker 1: did you look kind of good in price today?
Speaker 2: Ojoe did? Yeah, he threw it with some conviction block.
Speaker 1: Nah, he can get the scout team refs, but he
Speaker 1: ain't get no refs with them number one receivers.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: So I looked.
Speaker 1: It's to each his o, his eaches on. I mean, everybody,
Speaker 1: there's no, right, there's no wrong. As long as you're
Speaker 1: not you know, hey, as long as you're not giving
Speaker 1: him no faulty information.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't really have no problem
Speaker 1: on because I tried to help all the guys. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure if something were to happen to me,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, they were prepared to go in there and
Speaker 1: perform at a high level. But you know, I get
Speaker 1: it from the other stand because, like I said, I
Speaker 1: mentioned all those guys, and you know, Mike felt they
Speaker 1: were good enough to replace me. And then the same
Speaker 1: thing happened. When I got got to Baltimore. They drafted
Speaker 1: Todd Todd heat after we won the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: tried to, you know, do the best I could have
Speaker 1: mentor him, and they're like, well, yeah, he's good now.
Speaker 1: So they released me and I had to go back
Speaker 1: to I had to go back to Denver. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, it is what it is.
Speaker 5: Do you I was good?
Speaker 1: I would Let's just say with you, I wasn't disappointed
Speaker 1: to go back to Denver.
Speaker 5: I got you. I got you all right?
Speaker 1: Joining us now from the from the booty remember the
Speaker 1: hot boy, what.
Speaker 2: Are you doing?
Speaker 3: I was so was So what's up.
Speaker 2: Joining us? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man? Man, I appreciate shall hap man? How you doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 6: We'll show being like St Shan Vegas cent a minute, man,
Speaker 6: we ain't bumping shut out missed the breakfast spot in
Speaker 6: a minute.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, at Chris Cafe. I'm gonna be down. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be down that way in a minute. I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: down that the way. The minute I gonna hit you. Man,
Speaker 5: we go to that eat a little bit, man, talk
Speaker 5: your politics a little bit, bet that tell us about
Speaker 5: tell us about this happened that you just dropped freedom
Speaker 5: of speech?
Speaker 2: What what's what's in the name?
Speaker 3: Oh freedom of speech?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 6: It just comes from you not just come home from
Speaker 6: doing a twelve and a half year federal sentence.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: So you know when I first came home, they had
Speaker 6: put a gag all on me, man, and pretty much
Speaker 6: silaced me and told me they didn't want me doing
Speaker 6: nothing pertaining to rap or entertainment that I could make
Speaker 6: money off of, you know what I mean. So that
Speaker 6: I had to go through that and go back to
Speaker 6: court and fight it and go in front of the judge,
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean, It just was a lot, man,
Speaker 6: that I had to go through just to be able
Speaker 6: to rap again. Man, And I just felt like, you know,
Speaker 6: they was parading on my first amendment.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: They absolutely, they absolutely were. So you say, you just
Speaker 1: came home, you did a twelve year bid going you're
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, people know who you are. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking that you're in G pop. You're not
Speaker 1: in so and so now everybody knows who they are.
Speaker 1: What mm hmm, what's what's what's the many? Cause think
Speaker 1: about it? Be you had it all, bro, you I
Speaker 1: mean you was, you was on top of the world,
Speaker 1: and now a lot of.
Speaker 2: The things that you probably took for granted you're like, damn.
Speaker 3: Naw, that's a fag.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's it's many nice man that you know.
Speaker 6: I was in that cell when the lights went out
Speaker 6: and shaded a tear too, Like, man, how to fuck
Speaker 6: put myself in this situation?
Speaker 2: Man? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But you know it is what it is.
Speaker 6: Man. At the end of the day, you know I
Speaker 6: understood I wasn't no angel, right, and you know I
Speaker 6: had to I had to take my lick and accept
Speaker 6: what came with it. Man, they were trying to let
Speaker 6: me out in like, you know, two three years. But
Speaker 6: they wanted me to take some of my homies down
Speaker 6: with me. Man. And you know, I ain't grew up
Speaker 6: like that. That ain't in my heart, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So it was like I gotta stand on
Speaker 6: what's real and and and take it on the chair
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean. So you know I
Speaker 6: took my licking rope many.
Speaker 5: Hey listen, hey, listen, listen, being being being behind that
Speaker 5: ball man eleven twelve years. Man, it can change anybody.
Speaker 5: I just got a young boy down here in Miami.
Speaker 5: He just came home from doing seventeen. I said, I
Speaker 5: asked him, you know, firstly when he got out, I said, well,
Speaker 5: what do it feel like to do seventeen? He said,
Speaker 5: they gave me too much time to think.
Speaker 3: No, that's a fact, man, said, they gave They gave
Speaker 3: me too.
Speaker 5: Much time to think. So for you doing that eleven twelve,
Speaker 5: what habits? I mean? How has your mindset changed differently
Speaker 5: now as opposed to how it was when you went in?
Speaker 6: I mean, you know when I when I went in,
Speaker 6: I was you know, young, wow, reckless, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, so you know, it gave me a chance
Speaker 6: to really like he was saying, like, appreciate you know
Speaker 6: this this this this thing called hip hop. Man, that
Speaker 6: that that that changed my life. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: change the people lives around me. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like put my family first, like you know, put my
Speaker 6: career first. Put up you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 6: just just.
Speaker 3: Just focus, man, Like I'm a proun example.
Speaker 6: When keeping it real goes wrong, man, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like I had been you know, made it
Speaker 6: out the hood man and not. I just don't surround
Speaker 6: myself with you know, the same people I used to
Speaker 6: surround myself with, man, Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: you gotta understand when you outgroup mother for the man.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, and that that's that's
Speaker 5: a hard thing too. One of the things that you
Speaker 5: just said is everybody can go on that journey. You know,
Speaker 5: you get out and the same people again want you
Speaker 5: to be right back in the same place that you
Speaker 5: was before you went in there.
Speaker 2: B it's it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, something I listen, man, I came home and sing
Speaker 6: this song, but the.
Speaker 3: Who who's that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Twelve, Yeah, a third ten years, a little steel touring
Speaker 6: the same ship I left him do.
Speaker 3: And that's when I say.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can hear us. Seemed like
Speaker 2: it's ah, can you Oh?
Speaker 3: How you went out on me? Okay?
Speaker 1: They said, look, your physical body can be in prison
Speaker 1: as long as your mind isn't in prison. Had a
Speaker 1: hall boy says, Look is that when your mind isn't
Speaker 1: it's incarcerated, that's when it gets difficult. That's when you
Speaker 1: get guys doing crazy stuff and they succumb to those
Speaker 1: four walls. How did you keep your mind outside although
Speaker 1: your physical body was inside.
Speaker 6: I ain't even lying, bro, Like it took me like
Speaker 6: four or five years, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 6: when I first went in, I really couldn't see the end,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like that was a long
Speaker 6: stretch for somebody like me who was coming from the
Speaker 6: life I was coming from the lifestyle I was coming from.
Speaker 6: And you know, they slamm me behind the wall with
Speaker 6: all these lifers, and you know, dudes with thirty forty
Speaker 6: sixty seventy years ain't never going home, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. So them first couple of years, like I
Speaker 6: had found myself getting institutionalized, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So you know, I started, I just started going to
Speaker 6: the low library, you know, started doing a lot of
Speaker 6: reading because I had put my pen down and everything. Man,
Speaker 6: I wasn't even right, you know, more because I was like, man,
Speaker 6: it's old for me. Man, like the game, it's hard
Speaker 6: to remain relevant in this shit for a couple of.
Speaker 3: Months, like a year.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, man, I'm like, man, twelve years. Man,
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, I ain't gonna I ain't believe in
Speaker 6: the beginning that I'll be able to make a comeback.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: But you know, being a part.
Speaker 6: Of a click that pretty ones to find the error,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, which is that dollar sign
Speaker 6: cash money and all my homies you know, remain relative
Speaker 6: and still was doing the thing. It made that transition
Speaker 6: a little bit more easier for me, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. But yeah, man, I just you know, the
Speaker 6: Internet has started the boom, man, And you know it
Speaker 6: was it because I ain't like when I went in
Speaker 6: and I was doing everything I wasn't supposed to do,
Speaker 6: Like you know, I'm told nih something.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm just I'm in there life.
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know what I mean, and you
Speaker 6: gotta get with the program, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And then by me being who I am, you know
Speaker 6: you got to be a little bit more extra, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, because you know niggas he really yeah, man,
Speaker 6: And I wasn't gone for none of that, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So you know it took it took
Speaker 6: a minute for me to just kind of life, you know,
Speaker 6: call down man, and get my mind all the way
Speaker 6: right and get focused and and realize like, man, I
Speaker 6: got another.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna tighten up, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, stay focused, read these good books,
Speaker 6: and you know what i mean, get back out.
Speaker 3: She'll try to put my life back together.
Speaker 2: Man, What was a typical What was a typical day
Speaker 2: like for you?
Speaker 1: So you wait, what you wake up at, what time
Speaker 1: you do, whateffter that you do whatever that?
Speaker 2: Then what do you what time of the lights out?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: What was a typical day like for BG?
Speaker 3: Damn?
Speaker 6: I pop up five in the morning, Bam, throw my
Speaker 6: pop like six, I'm gonna make me a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, why seeing.
Speaker 6: It see you know what I'm saying, Why seeing it
Speaker 6: with some of the old heads.
Speaker 3: He what's going on on the news, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And then bam, watch some first take, then catch the
Speaker 6: wreck y'arll go work out.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Come back in, you know,
Speaker 3: make something to eat. You know what I'm saying. Get
Speaker 3: on the phone, you know us for a few businesses
Speaker 3: or something. You know what I'm saying. Didn't go back outside?
Speaker 7: You know, oh, man up, go ahead, finish it about
Speaker 7: go ahead?
Speaker 3: Did it?
Speaker 2: Boo?
Speaker 3: Bah?
Speaker 2: You did that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: You said you hit to the reck yard? So you
Speaker 1: do a push ups? Pull ups? Do they have a
Speaker 1: weight room? Can you live weights? Or did they take
Speaker 1: Have they taken all the wayside of the facilities?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: They acted. Man, they was trying to start.
Speaker 6: Some of these out. It was pull up steps, push ups, burpies.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, like all callous, that is man,
Speaker 6: yurel man. But that shit'll ripped you up.
Speaker 3: Due.
Speaker 1: So you said when you got back and you say,
Speaker 1: you know, you make your coffee. You do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do you come back and make some food you
Speaker 1: was making?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 1: Oh, you was making So you get stuff from the
Speaker 1: common sary. You probably get ramen noodle, you're getting the
Speaker 1: honey buns, you're getting a little babbie, You're getting certain things.
Speaker 1: So you actually cooking.
Speaker 3: In your room. Yeah, all late food. That was cold
Speaker 3: flooding with the cooking.
Speaker 6: So you know, I got all the previous every day
Speaker 6: he needs and we whipping up in the microweed you
Speaker 6: know that micaelweed?
Speaker 3: You make that shit? You think that ship came out
Speaker 3: the oven and off the stove or some ship you know.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, they put it out like that.
Speaker 1: Man, they got.
Speaker 2: Fishing and start chefs in there.
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, yeah they hey.
Speaker 3: Be talking about five star shifts. Shit me, when you're.
Speaker 5: I want to get back to you, I'm going to
Speaker 5: get back to the music, right. I'm gonna get back
Speaker 5: to your music right. When you talk about you know,
Speaker 5: the album the LP peach right, and when you went
Speaker 5: to talk to the judge about your first amendment to
Speaker 5: be able to wrap the way you want to despite
Speaker 5: you know, the conviction, to despite your past, were you
Speaker 5: able to win that so you can have them to
Speaker 5: say and rap about what you want to expecting that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because that's and that was their main thing, Like
Speaker 6: you know, they was trying to control my content and
Speaker 6: tell me what I could and couldn't rap about, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And you not just felt like you know, that was wrong.
Speaker 6: I made a career for, you know, doing gainst the music.
Speaker 6: I ain't the first one to rap about it. I
Speaker 6: ain't gonna be the last one to rap about it,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. N W and two live
Speaker 6: Proof you know had this first Amendment fight thirty years ago,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I was I was
Speaker 6: looking at it from from that point of view. But
Speaker 6: the judge she ordered me to, uh, before I make
Speaker 6: any you know, raps of songs available to the public,
Speaker 6: that I have to turn them over to my po
Speaker 6: So my PIO could put them on the record, but
Speaker 6: they don't have to approve it or nothing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they definitely listening.
Speaker 6: Know they be listening, man, That's why they're trying to
Speaker 6: leave Jnsters Man. Be mindful, man, you heard me, because
Speaker 6: the people listening, man, and they'll take them wraps and
Speaker 6: turn them against you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Tell the people how they can find your documentary, because
Speaker 1: you did a documentary about your life on the outside
Speaker 1: before it started inside and now you're back out again.
Speaker 1: How can people find your documentary?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man?
Speaker 3: Many from my other on my speech to documentary.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, It's just me, you know,
Speaker 6: basically know that I had because and they called that
Speaker 6: a violation of my probation. You know what I mean
Speaker 6: saying that. You know, they, like I said, saying, they
Speaker 6: didn't want me throwing nothing pertaining to wrap entertainment that
Speaker 6: I could make money off of.
Speaker 5: And I'm.
Speaker 1: So how you're supposed to live, how you're supposed to survive.
Speaker 1: We lost them, Sorry about that, guys of them. And
Speaker 1: this is a very interesting conversation. Oh Joe, this is
Speaker 1: what I don't get. Okay, you say, hey, bro.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't hang around the people and partake in the
Speaker 1: life that landed you. Hear, Okay, cool, let me go back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and get on this music thing. Nah,
Speaker 1: you can't do that, you see, that's why the recidivism
Speaker 1: rated so high. Yeah, first of all, it's hard to
Speaker 1: get hired if you have if you have a.
Speaker 5: Resident anyway, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: So now people don't want to hire you. You're telling
Speaker 1: me what I can and can't do. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: got no choice. Now you're telling me, so what am
Speaker 1: I supposed to do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean that's that's how it is. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 5: once you're once you're a part of the system, and
Speaker 5: you leave that system, the system still does everything they
Speaker 5: can to control you despite.
Speaker 1: Holding whatever you did over your head. I paid my
Speaker 1: debt to society. Hit you on your video. We can
Speaker 1: hear you, BG, but we can't feel you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what I don't get, O, Joe. I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: I pay once, I paid my debt to society.
Speaker 2: I'm clear.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're supposed where you're supposed to You're supposed to
Speaker 5: be clear. Now you're clear depending on who you are.
Speaker 5: You know how they operate, you know how that you
Speaker 5: know how they operate. They move by a different set
Speaker 5: of rules, and there's some people that play by a
Speaker 5: completely different set of rules, and you know you know
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So for sure, O.
Speaker 5: Other than that, man, listen, and the fact that we
Speaker 5: do come out, you try to do the best you
Speaker 5: can with whatever record you have and hoping that you
Speaker 5: can get that second chance and grace and whatever it
Speaker 5: is that.
Speaker 1: You do if I'm a football player, Oh Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I let's just say I have a slip up
Speaker 1: and I do something that I get, I get cent away.
Speaker 1: Yeah when I get out, and I'm saying I'm twenty
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five. I'm twenty six, right, but nah, you
Speaker 1: can't play no football with Yeah. Oh this is small example,
Speaker 1: mister Ruggs. Well, wait, we got to beat you back. Okay,
Speaker 1: beat you I'm gonna start back over. Tell us about
Speaker 1: the documentary. Where can they find it? And what what
Speaker 1: is the documentary? What does it entail?
Speaker 3: Man? A documentaries on YouTube.
Speaker 6: It's on my YouTube channel, and you know, it's basically
Speaker 6: really walking you through everything that I had went to
Speaker 6: through what led up to my incarceration, you know, what
Speaker 6: led up to me being silenced, me going back and forth,
Speaker 6: the core and really just you know, me telling my
Speaker 6: story man, because it's a generation of motherfuckers that don't
Speaker 6: even know who I am. I feel like I'm reintroducing
Speaker 6: myself to the world, you know what I'm saying. Because
Speaker 6: I've was going for so long. I got you know,
Speaker 6: my core solid, you know, fan base that grew up
Speaker 6: with a motherfucker. But it's like, I'm just you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, trying to introduce myself to you know,
Speaker 6: a whole different demographic, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 6: and and these you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He's eighteen to twenty eight year olds and you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm just getting something wrong, man, basically,
Speaker 6: you know, trying to let them all fethers. Don't don't
Speaker 6: let them know they ain't got to be like me, man,
Speaker 6: be better than me. Man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: learn from my mistakes.
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying. Like I've been there,
Speaker 3: done that, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes you you gotta go through it yourself.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, moll father, don't be more head.
Speaker 6: But that still don't mean you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna tell you right.
Speaker 5: Hey, b what be what you think about the state
Speaker 5: of hip hop right now?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: What's what's ther what what's your thought about the state
Speaker 5: of hip hop right now? Boss? Man? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: I mean you know I'm I'm I'm a hip hop
Speaker 6: fan man in a hip hop head man.
Speaker 3: So you know.
Speaker 6: It, man, I I it's it's definitely different now. It's
Speaker 6: it's it's you know what I mean. Like, but I
Speaker 6: don't want to sound like the.
Speaker 3: Old head, you know what I'm saying, be hating and
Speaker 3: all this and all that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's it's really really different, man, Like
Speaker 6: I wish you not come up in the era. Well,
Speaker 6: originality and and and authenticity you know, created longevity, you know, understanding,
Speaker 6: and I don't be getting.
Speaker 5: A lot of that.
Speaker 3: You heard me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Like, it's like everybody you know a lot of dudes
Speaker 6: be sounding us the same, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: and will work for him, might not work for me,
Speaker 6: Like we'll work for me, ain't gonna work for you,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I should just be
Speaker 6: wanting to hit get a little bit more originality, man,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1: Have you heard have you heard uh Weasy the new
Speaker 1: song the Menu album the card Si?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm riding to it now. Well
Speaker 6: I listen to it one time. I'm giving it a
Speaker 6: second go through right now.
Speaker 1: I tell you, let me, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: give me your top five rappers and they can be
Speaker 1: they can be all New Orleans based. But if you
Speaker 1: if somebody saying, you know what, BG, give me your
Speaker 1: top five live past the present. They can be all passed,
Speaker 1: they can be all present, they can be dead, they
Speaker 1: can be alive.
Speaker 2: I just want to know who you who you think
Speaker 2: are the best five?
Speaker 6: Tupac scoff Face, Oh uh, Tupot scuff Face, Little Wayne
Speaker 6: Soldiers slim and uh and.
Speaker 5: Me, Hey, hey, hey, b G. You know listen we
Speaker 5: took told by that talked about that little Wayne, right
Speaker 5: h Listen that song Maria with y Cleft and yeah
Speaker 5: yeah and the beat that the beat that made Fresh
Speaker 5: Maid for being myself. Man, listen, man, that's that's I.
Speaker 6: Ain't gonna lie to that, that one he got with
Speaker 6: that one he got with Big the Plug.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: I'm stuck on that one, right, I'm stuck on that
Speaker 6: one right now. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said,
Speaker 6: I gotta listen to because you know Wayne, you know
Speaker 6: his word. Please, So this is you know what I'm saying, that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be over your here.
Speaker 6: It's gonna take you three times to listen to for
Speaker 6: the you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 6: I got a record on this deluxe album that I'm
Speaker 6: about to drop for freedom of speech with me little
Speaker 6: wine and bust the rhymes. Man, that ship, that ship,
Speaker 6: that ship gonna be Yeah, it's it's. It's one of
Speaker 6: the ones. It's it's one of the ones. But yeah,
Speaker 6: now I'm on that six right now.
Speaker 3: Like it.
Speaker 2: Who you gotta win in the finals? You watch you
Speaker 2: you you up on you up on sports?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm putting my money on
Speaker 3: o K. See. Man, they blew me up the other night.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I should have took and
Speaker 6: did with the points. But I thought I thought. I thought, okay,
Speaker 6: se was gonna stand on business. But I'm yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: still riding with ok C. Man, I ain't. I ain't.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna wear the white flag.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hold on, hold on, you got gee? You sure
Speaker 5: you shure you're gonna okay? See because I got I
Speaker 5: got the pace. You try you try to better or something.
Speaker 5: Hey man, listen, hey, I ain't got that old show.
Speaker 5: Money gonna be a little friendly bit. You know what
Speaker 5: I meant, little friend.
Speaker 4: Friend say that hey, bg, he.
Speaker 2: Don't pay.
Speaker 1: Right now, he don't pay, he won't be fitted out
Speaker 1: hundred right now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, let me ask you what when you when you
Speaker 1: were inside? Did you write it? Did you write anything
Speaker 1: when you was inside?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, I got a couple of movies that I'm about
Speaker 6: to I'm about to put out.
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I got an Urban livel I started on my autobiogle.
Speaker 3: Fee Yeah, man, I was yeah, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I was going dope with decade. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, man, I did a lot of right man,
Speaker 6: I got a little material.
Speaker 1: Man, let me ask you this, had you not been
Speaker 1: sat down for a period of time, would you have
Speaker 1: taken time to do what you do if you want
Speaker 1: to be outside?
Speaker 3: No, I mean, jail saved my life.
Speaker 6: Well, just to be honest with you, man, you heard me,
Speaker 6: And I'm just saying like if I wouldn't on whether jail,
Speaker 6: I'd probably be dead or in shall the longest sentence,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, so you know, I
Speaker 6: don't think I needed that much, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I probably could
Speaker 6: have learned my le You could have been home, and
Speaker 6: you feel like I probably would have learned my letters
Speaker 6: and about five ships.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But you yeah, man, it's saved my life.
Speaker 3: I could be honest with myself about that.
Speaker 2: Well, the boy put two pennies on the dimes. They're
Speaker 2: gonna pull that.
Speaker 3: Nah for real, for real, for real.
Speaker 1: So your family, I obviously had to take a toll
Speaker 1: on your family because nobody wants to see a family member.
Speaker 2: How did that make you feel?
Speaker 1: Because you know the family see you, but damn, y'all
Speaker 1: got to see me like this behind this light, like
Speaker 1: like I'm in the zoo. And then I know it's
Speaker 1: tough on them when they leave, and I know it's
Speaker 1: tough on you when they leave.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I was it was hall man, Like you know,
Speaker 6: I left the streets like my oldest son was eleven
Speaker 6: years old, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: My daughter was three, you know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 3: other son was five. I come home.
Speaker 6: I thought of graduating high school, my other son in college,
Speaker 6: my other son, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 6: come home the whole man with the bed like tough
Speaker 6: I'm saying like I'm talking about, it's it's it's man like.
Speaker 6: But you know it's like I had to get to
Speaker 6: know them all over again. You know, even do they
Speaker 6: walk there being down with me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: And you know we jose truth visit and through the
Speaker 6: phone and you know, through mail and all that. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it definitely wasn't easy, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But you know it grew you up. It grow you up.
Speaker 6: I read that, I've read the I've read the I've
Speaker 6: read to them see me. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 6: in jail, and you know, have to come visit me
Speaker 6: in the grid yard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I told him, I totally I totally get that. So man,
Speaker 1: glad to have you home. Best of luck on the documentary, guys,
Speaker 1: go check the album out. Freedom of Speech, BG's First
Speaker 1: Thing is his first album since being out.
Speaker 2: He got a documentary, he says, he got a novel.
Speaker 1: He got an autobiography coming out, detailing his life, what
Speaker 1: led him to where let him.
Speaker 2: And how he turned his life around. He said, he
Speaker 2: ain't going back.
Speaker 3: I'm done, you know what I mean, I'm done that ship.
Speaker 3: Oh a bird. Man told me to send y'all his
Speaker 3: love too. Man, you heard me. I hollered at him
Speaker 3: for I came home, man, he said, Man, let him know. Man,
Speaker 3: send my love. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man, Thank you very much. All the best.
Speaker 1: Congratulational being home. Hey, good luck on the documentary. Good
Speaker 1: luck on the autobiography. We're gonna ohe you're not gonna
Speaker 1: check that album out, check.
Speaker 3: It out, man, Thank y'all. Brother love love love all right, yo.
Speaker 2: Man, that's that's tough for yo. Yeah, that's tough, man.
Speaker 1: I mean to go with like I said, you go
Speaker 1: away and you got kids and you got to relearn
Speaker 1: them all over again.
Speaker 2: On your time is the one thing.
Speaker 1: Time is the one thing that you can't It's the
Speaker 1: most precious commodity that we have because it does my
Speaker 1: thought is what you cannot make up. Yeah, and once
Speaker 1: it's gone, it's never to be recaptured, you know. He said,
Speaker 1: I got it. I had a thirteen year old when
Speaker 1: I went in, I had a five. I had a
Speaker 1: three year old. Yeah, bro, we donet half half their life.
Speaker 5: Everybody grown.
Speaker 2: Now they got to relearn him. He has to relearn them, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. Listen, I'm glad that everybody
Speaker 5: don't get a second chance. No, no, I'm glad he's
Speaker 5: been afforded. It's been afforded a second chance. He's been
Speaker 5: hive and grace and then the good thing about it,
Speaker 5: some people go in and take their head right back
Speaker 5: because they ain't learning less than the first time. But
Speaker 5: you listen to him talk, you could tell his sharp
Speaker 5: now his mine different. His man.
Speaker 1: About three weeks ago on my podcast, he like Shannon,
Speaker 1: I knew he like, once I get out, he said.
Speaker 2: I know I wasn't going back.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I knew I wasn't going back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've had homebus and Noah, sharp, man, i
Speaker 1: ain't going back in hell.
Speaker 2: Three months later, they're right back in there. You're right back,
Speaker 2: they're right back. Hey.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it only take it. It takes for it takes
Speaker 5: for him to sit you down one time long enough, man,
Speaker 5: you can't get that time back, man, man.
Speaker 1: Nah, and all the stuff the free you talk about bad,
Speaker 1: I hate you ain't got nothing in there. They tell
Speaker 1: you what time to get up, what time to go
Speaker 1: to bed, where to go, when to go, how to go,
Speaker 1: what to do.
Speaker 2: When you get there.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Adam Sandler will cast Deack Henry in a
Speaker 1: movie if if he runs for another two thousand yards.
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler sent Henry a message saying, two thousand yards
Speaker 1: plus this year not only gets you in a movie,
Speaker 1: but I'll have a nice dinner together and talk about
Speaker 1: dan Patrick facial era and how hard it is for
Speaker 1: him to grow.
Speaker 2: I love you. Keep it up.
Speaker 1: Henry one of nine players to ever produce a two
Speaker 1: thousand yard rush season. He did it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: If he eclipses two thousand yards and twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: he'll become the first player ever to record two two
Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons and could earn a cameo in a movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that, they don't need to be no cameo.
Speaker 2: I need you. I need to have it about ten
Speaker 2: minutes in the movie.
Speaker 5: You need the whole thing. You need to be the manustraction.
Speaker 1: At least ten minutes. Oh Joe, you got to think
Speaker 1: about the NFL. The NFL is one hundred and six
Speaker 1: hundred and seven years old. Yeah, nobody has ever done
Speaker 1: two thousand twice? Right, Yeah, man, I need I need
Speaker 1: about ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, listen, he's in the right
Speaker 1: situation to do it. He's sure it's to do it.
Speaker 5: You know over there with Lamar brother Babman Brother Brothers
Speaker 5: the Flowers.
Speaker 1: Listen, he'd got two thousand and didn't listen to me
Speaker 1: early instead of put him in that offset eye.
Speaker 5: And put him h yeah, yea yeah, yeah. Well listen,
Speaker 5: they know now, they.
Speaker 2: Know nine told him man a man, shut up.
Speaker 3: You don't know what.
Speaker 2: You put the man in the eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an eye back yeah, yeah, because he did.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. The thing is he needs to get ahead
Speaker 1: of steam. He ain't want him quick back to jump
Speaker 1: stop like sake on Jamire Gibbs can run out, can
Speaker 1: run out of the offset.
Speaker 5: Montgomery could do that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's not but that's not him. He's
Speaker 1: an old school he's a he's an Emmitt Smith. He's
Speaker 1: a Bo Jackson, a herschel Walker. He's an Eric Dickerson.
Speaker 1: He's that guy what his heels at nine tossing the ball? Yeah,
Speaker 1: land the ball, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They bull jotted around the first three games. He bully
Speaker 1: had two thousand, could have had it. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what he might hit it. You got to realize that
Speaker 1: was his first season. Man, mm hmmm, that was his
Speaker 1: first season in offense. So now he's already activated. He
Speaker 1: knows the plays, you know. They they understand what he
Speaker 1: can and can't do. They understand their strengths.
Speaker 5: And I'm crazy for even saying they understand his weaknesses
Speaker 5: as well, and what not to do with him. Man,
Speaker 5: ain't no telling what he's gonna run for them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the volume