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Speaker 1: a free agent, Matthew Judan. Matt, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the top of the show. We

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Speaker 1: have Matthew Judon joining us tonight. Matthew, as I spoke

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Speaker 1: at the top, that you are free currently a free

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Speaker 1: agent right now, So what is what are the next steps?

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Speaker 1: What is what is in the future for Matthew Judon.

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Speaker 5: Coming to Cincinnati?

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Speaker 2: But go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Well, shoot, if I came to Cincinnati, man, what they

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Speaker 4: gonna do? They gotta they gotta get a trade, right

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Speaker 4: don't they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey yeah?

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Speaker 4: So uh but right now I'm chilling. You know how

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Speaker 4: to uh you know how to lead go h not

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Speaker 4: for long? Uh, you know, I have fun and so

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Speaker 4: right now I'm just chilling. So if I if I

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Speaker 4: get a call, I'm working out. I'm doing everything I

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Speaker 4: need to do to be in shape and ready for

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Speaker 4: camp or a call any day. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot a lot of stuff not up to me.

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Speaker 4: So I'm doing what I can do.

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Speaker 5: Well, let listen. Now I'm gonna say listen, I don't

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Speaker 5: watch you over he is I know what you could do.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The product on yourself, your resumes speaks for itself. You're

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Speaker 5: going to get that call.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Most of the time when we at this point in

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Speaker 3: After last year, I just want to play football.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I just want to want to just

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Speaker 4: rushing the passer, Uh, things like that. But uh, you

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Speaker 3: You don't want to just go out there to compete. Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not really building a resume no more.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to win the championship. I want to compete

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Speaker 1: You think about it, Matthew, are like you said, you're

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Speaker 2: But how long are you willing to wait for that call?

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Speaker 4: Uh? You know, you just wait. You know how, I'm

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Speaker 4: So right now I'm just waiting. So if it's if

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Speaker 3: Season, you know I'll be ready.

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Speaker 4: I'm always gonna work out, you know, I'm always gonna

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Speaker 4: I find you something to do different every year. So

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Speaker 4: right now I'm big into Pilate's and then I got

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Speaker 3: So I'm never going to be not in shape. But

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Speaker 2: You know you got a shape. Being in shape different.

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Speaker 3: You only can get it in football.

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Speaker 4: So right, I mean, whenever they Call'm be ready whenever.

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Speaker 4: Of Oh you know, I really uh like I said,

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Speaker 4: But if I do, if I don't get that call,

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Speaker 3: It's not ridding the cars. I'm gonna trap.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting up out the I'm getting up out the US.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm going to see some different things.

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Speaker 4: Earlier this summer, I went to South Africa. Uh that man,

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Speaker 3: It was beautiful. Uh and you know I'm I'm into nature.

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Speaker 4: So we hiked, uh me and one of my best

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then did you go on a safari? Did

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Speaker 2: you did go to the Arunga Mountains? I mean, did

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Speaker 4: But you know, just just seeing just seeing that type

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just see to see those animals in their natural habitat,

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Speaker 2: So it's all about survival and that's all. It's about them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this, mate, you have a

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Speaker 1: Can you give a little insight to the differences in

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I think I was blessed to

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Speaker 4: But uh going to the Patriots locker room, uh and

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Speaker 4: in the post Tom Verdier.

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Speaker 4: But you see how those those kind of players that

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Speaker 4: not saying that I ain't played with like good players

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot a lot from them, And then

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Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all ever man, he was there.

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Speaker 5: Slate was there when I was there.

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Speaker 4: And people like that and how how they prepare, how

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Speaker 1: Stealers have found their starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers put pen

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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, he would he give the Stealers. You give

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Speaker 1: The team announced that Rogers will wear the number eight.

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Speaker 2: No excuse me? Did you signed an extension? That don't matter?

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Speaker 3: He never gonna have a losing season.

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Speaker 4: He trained him so well, they played so hard for

445
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Speaker 4: Mike Thomas, He's never gonna have a losing season.

446
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Speaker 5: That's enough. That's enough, just having just having this year.

447
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's enough because he the

448
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Speaker 1: one that said the standard is the standard. Well, if

449
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Speaker 1: the standard is getting to and competing for Super Bowl,

450
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Speaker 1: they ain't competed for a Super Bowl a long time

451
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Speaker 1: that nobody thought, even though they make the playoffs, oldest man,

452
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Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't threat. When was the last time that

453
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Speaker 1: someone thought that Steelers would be a threat in the playoffs?

454
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Speaker 5: But when they had Parla malo, when they had Ike Taylor.

455
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Speaker 1: Man Parla Malu retired. He in the Hall of Fame.

456
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Speaker 1: So he had to wait at least five years to

457
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Speaker 1: get into the hall. So we thought about the least

458
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Speaker 1: at the bare minimum five.

459
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Speaker 5: Were you you asked when that's that's ass Winton, when

460
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Speaker 5: they had to wait, when their identity was their defense.

461
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Speaker 3: They hadn't been a serious threat since being But but

462
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Speaker 3: do you mean that mean change? Does that mean change?

463
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Speaker 3: We ain't been.

464
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Speaker 4: A serious stat or or we have been so consistent

465
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Speaker 4: that we just haven't got the right players, and they haven't.

466
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Speaker 4: They haven't had a quarterback that's there since being here?

467
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Speaker 3: Whose part is that there's consistence.

468
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Speaker 1: They had an opportunity they kill it you and they

469
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Speaker 1: had been Roethlisberger, and they thought Bread was gonna pay

470
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Speaker 1: play like Tom Brady. You know he wasn't because he's

471
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Speaker 1: been involved in too many crashes. He's taking too much punishment.

472
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Speaker 1: So what you do is that what good teams do.

473
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Speaker 1: What did Kansas City do draft the quarterback and they

474
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Speaker 1: still had one on the roster. What did Baltimore do

475
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Speaker 1: when they had Joe Flacco? You were there, they drafted

476
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Speaker 1: a quarterback? You see what good team? What did Green

477
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Speaker 1: Bay do? Draft the quarterback? What the Green Bay do

478
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers? Draft the quarterback? You see what everybody does?

479
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Speaker 1: You don't wait. If you wait to your car break

480
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Speaker 1: down side the road, it's too late. You're already spraying it.

481
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but it's that my fault.

482
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you'll think might got no sake.

483
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Speaker 4: If he say get us a quarterback, get us a quarterback, Please,

484
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Speaker 4: get us a quarterback, and they don't get us a quarterback.

485
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Speaker 3: And how y'all gonna get mad at me?

486
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Speaker 1: You know, you give Mike all that, you give all

487
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Speaker 1: that my credits say, he never gonna have he never

488
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Speaker 1: gonna have him in a losing situation. So who drafting

489
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Speaker 1: those players? The dream of Mike Tomblin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we don't know what go on in

491
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Speaker 4: the war room, but you can't you can't just say, well,

492
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Speaker 4: that's Mike Tomland, Mike tom won a quarterback.

493
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Speaker 1: Matt hold On Joe Matthew, You mean to tell me

494
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Speaker 1: a man that's been there, damn there twenty years?

495
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Speaker 2: He ain't got no fake.

496
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Speaker 3: How long the Jim been there?

497
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Speaker 2: Not not as long as Mike Tomlin.

498
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Speaker 4: I ain't never heard of still as fined no gym

499
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Speaker 4: or getting a new gym.

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Speaker 2: And I heard him. I tell you what you ever

501
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Speaker 2: heard of him? Fired the coach exactly.

502
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Speaker 1: So my thing is, when you're there that long, you

503
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Speaker 1: have some say you have some sale free the fifty three,

504
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Speaker 1: you have some saying free agency, and you that how

505
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Speaker 1: long Mike Tomlin been there? My coach, Kyle retired in

506
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Speaker 1: two two thousand, they won the Super Bowl in five.

507
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Speaker 1: He came back in six, so he retired in seven.

508
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Speaker 1: He's been there in nineteen years. You not. There's no

509
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Speaker 1: coach that's been anywhere for nineteen years that does not

510
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Speaker 1: have safe I refuse to believe that.

511
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Speaker 5: I don't know who hold on hold on, Jude, I don't.

512
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Speaker 5: I don't even think it's about saying I'm thinking about

513
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Speaker 5: the relationship that Ben Roethlisberger might have had with upper management.

514
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Speaker 2: With those great relationship with Mike Tomlin too.

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Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no, no, no, no,

516
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Speaker 5: Because if Mike Thomlin, Mike Tomin was the head coach,

517
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Speaker 5: He's been in the NFL for a very long time. Mike

518
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Speaker 5: COmON knows at some point, I'm going to have to

519
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Speaker 5: find your successor. At some point. You look at you,

520
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Speaker 5: you look at the landscape of the league. Those that

521
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Speaker 5: didn't do it, Look what's happening now do.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 5: That's why, that's why I think that the calling was

524
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Speaker 5: above Mike Tomlin's pay grade.

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Speaker 2: I just agree.

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Speaker 4: I know, yo, a, your starring court back, your franchise quarterback,

527
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Speaker 4: is getting paid more than the coach.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, the relationships.

529
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Speaker 4: Might be a little stronger than the even though the

530
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Speaker 4: coach been there longer, he's more team I think, well,

531
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Speaker 4: I mean, we're paying this due only seventeen million a year.

532
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Speaker 3: We're paying this dude fifty.

533
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Speaker 1: We understand that Mike Tomlin had a very strong relationship.

534
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Speaker 1: He's always had a very strong relationship with his star players.

535
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Speaker 1: We know that based on the history. We know that

536
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Speaker 1: being and when Ab was there and a lot of

537
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Speaker 1: these other guys. We know how he feels about his

538
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: great players. But in order to keep this from happening

539
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Speaker 1: to you, if you do not get a bridge. If

540
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Speaker 1: you wait till somebody burn your bridge down, how the

541
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Speaker 1: hell do you get to the other side. I gave

542
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Speaker 1: you example Kansas City Alex Smith was a Pro Bowl quarterback.

543
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Speaker 3: What did they do, Matt?

544
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Speaker 2: What a super Bowl?

545
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Speaker 3: But when you see that, when you see that.

546
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Speaker 4: Mm hm, they went and got uh wis buddy from

547
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Speaker 4: pitt They went and got.

548
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Speaker 1: Man stop playing picketing out front.

549
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Speaker 3: No, we won't go. We gotta put that on somebody.

550
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: We got.

551
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: We gotta put that on somebody.

552
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: When when somebody don't turn out in the draft, how

553
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Speaker 4: you think they are not saying he's a bad player.

554
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Speaker 4: They didn't like him for the system and they didn't

555
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Speaker 4: like what he was doing, so they had to move on.

556
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Speaker 4: Do you put that on the coach or do you

557
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Speaker 4: put that on a person that selects and pays the players.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that I believe there

559
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Speaker 1: there are drafts that they had better quarterback options.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

561
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Speaker 1: You could sit back and say, you know what, next year,

562
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Speaker 1: this quarterback is good, but you have to move.

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Speaker 2: What did the Green Bay do Jordan? What did they

564
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Speaker 2: do with Jordan Love?

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Speaker 1: How much was they paying Aaron Rodgers and they and

566
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Speaker 1: after they signed him, they gave him a big deal.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came.

568
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Speaker 1: He was pissed off, absolutely, And just like Brett Farr

569
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Speaker 1: was pissed off when they did what drafted Aaron Rodgers.

570
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Speaker 4: I mean then Aaron Rodgers seen a situation playoffs, he

571
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Speaker 4: said he already he already knew what was in the car.

572
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: So he said, all right, y'all not gonna play me.

573
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Speaker 4: How y'all played Brett, and just move on. I can't

574
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: worry about one year. I got to worry about the

575
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Speaker 4: next ten fifteen years. So if you just worry about

576
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Speaker 4: one year and one guy's feelings, you'll be stuck. All right,

577
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: those in those nineteen years, In those nineteen years, I

578
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Speaker 4: mean what they I think the only the only player

579
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Speaker 4: that would have felled that far to him, which is

580
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: a bad pick, was Lamar.

581
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Speaker 1: No, it's not that you fought. You move up, Patrick Mahomes.

582
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Speaker 1: They moved up to get Patrick Mahomes. They moved, they

583
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Speaker 1: moved up to get Jordan Love. You don't have to

584
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Speaker 1: stay at seat you looking at the philosophy. Let somebody

585
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Speaker 1: fall into my lap. No, if there's somebody, you move

586
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: up to go get them.

587
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Speaker 5: And that's where what I said comes into play. Uncle,

588
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: not pissing off your franchise quarterback. I think the relationship

589
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 5: with Ben Roethlisberger and management in GM and president was

590
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Speaker 5: much stronger than that of whatever Mike Tomler might have wanted.

591
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Speaker 5: You think Tomon didn't want a quarterback when he realized

592
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Speaker 5: being Okay, you're not moving the same, Oh Ben, you

593
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 5: can't throw the same or the velocity on the ball

594
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: is not the same. Mike Toman can see that stuff. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 5: he didn't have to say so, regardless of being the

596
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Speaker 5: coach for nineteen years to go and get who we wanted.

597
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing you still got. You maintained that

598
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: great relationship. Now, how you looking this part? Because the Steelers,

599
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Speaker 1: what's the standard for the Steelers. When we think of Steelers,

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Speaker 1: we think of what oh Jr. Championship Championship?

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Speaker 4: No, No, you think of defense? Sal you think you

602
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: think of steel Mike townand that's his defense.

603
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Speaker 2: That they got.

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Speaker 1: They got Ben Roethlisberger, and they had Antonio Brown and

605
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Speaker 1: they had leveyon Bell. They've been abandoned the defense when

606
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Speaker 1: they had the triple bs, they were throwing the ball.

607
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisbergers got two five thousand yard seavers. He's got

608
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Speaker 1: four or five hundred yard games.

609
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Speaker 3: They've been abandoned that.

610
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Speaker 2: They just had.

611
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Speaker 4: They had they had a exposal offense for five six years.

612
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Speaker 4: They had like they had his sposal offense. They always

613
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Speaker 4: had a good wide receiver. They always had a good

614
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Speaker 4: wide receiver. Somebody get the ball, take the top off.

615
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: They always gonna have that defense. When you think Steelers,

616
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Speaker 4: you think hard hitting defense.

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Speaker 3: You know you know when you.

618
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Speaker 4: Hear that, Hey, Mamroun, you hear that, don't you know

619
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Speaker 4: that it is about to do something.

620
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Speaker 3: You know that. You know that, you know it's gonna

621
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Speaker 3: be cold, rainy, wet when you go in there.

622
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Speaker 4: The grass grass ain't worth nothing, but the defense gonna

623
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Speaker 4: have to come to play. And so if you're gonna

624
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Speaker 4: beat the Steelers, you have to keep the ball, You

625
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: have to know how to run the ball, and you

626
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: have to limit.

627
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Speaker 3: Exposed to plays from their offense. That's all you gotta.

628
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Speaker 3: That's how you be distabed when.

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Speaker 1: The last time they've had explosive plays from the offense.

630
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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's been gone, A Be's been gone, Leveyon Bell

631
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Speaker 1: been gone, so what if you know the Steelers that

632
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Speaker 1: have explosive plays.

633
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Speaker 4: And that's why that's why George Pickins left the building. George,

634
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Speaker 4: George Pickens want to be he wanna, he wanna dance,

635
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Speaker 4: he wanna he want to be in the ends all

636
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: he wanna he want to do that. That's why George

637
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Speaker 4: Pickens left the building. He said, I have I need.

638
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: I need to the linel like I want. I want

639
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: to see I want to see how that feels. He

640
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: want to be Jamar Chase. He wanted he's seen he's

641
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: seen what that look like in the division, and he said,

642
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Speaker 4: I can't get that here.

643
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Speaker 1: Right, Matthew, thanks for joining us tonight, man, best de

644
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: luck you free agency. Come back when you when you

645
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: get something penciled in, come back in Jordans and let

646
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Speaker 1: us know.

647
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Speaker 2: Where you're going.

648
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Speaker 3: All right, I got y'all appreciate it, bro, all right, my.

649
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Speaker 2: Boy, Oh Joe, Hey, hey, y'all.

650
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Speaker 5: Hey, before you start, like like real quick, real quick,

651
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Speaker 5: I just I just want to say something to you.

652
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it in Coldlon, but you understand what

653
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying, even even though it's Mike, Even though it's Mike.

654
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Speaker 5: I don't think he has the pool, even though he's

655
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Speaker 5: the head coach to override pissing off the franchise quarterback.

656
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Speaker 2: Stay with me. He got I get you what you're saying.

657
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: But he got more do you think?

658
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, because he's been there so long. But with that,

659
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Speaker 5: with that centerpiece that been there, that lot.

660
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's

661
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Speaker 1: got had Bill Belichick pool. I'm not saying he got

662
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Andy Reid type pool, but he might have. He might

663
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: be next in line with when it come to pool.

664
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Speaker 5: Right right, right right, I got you, I got you, well,

665
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: same thing.

666
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Speaker 1: Can think about it. They went out, they got Joe Flacco,

667
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: who led them to a super Bowl. What they gonna

668
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: do They trade back into the first round, give up

669
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: next year's first round pick to get Lamar.

670
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: Hey, you know you can see it, right, you know

671
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: you when your player is declining, Yes, things are the same,

672
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: especially at the quarterback position, you can see it. The

673
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: funny thing about it is how much do players or

674
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: how much are they self aware that they're declining. It

675
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: starts slipping.

676
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Speaker 1: It's hard because oko, you don't want to believe it,

677
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: because you've been great for so long you don't want

678
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: to believe it, and so oot to yourself. You lie

679
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: to yourself, You lie to yourself.

680
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 5: Hey boy, you turn that film on and be like

681
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Speaker 5: it is that damn damn?

682
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: He moving slow?

683
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh that's me. Man who like they got

684
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: on tims who run it like they got Tim's on

685
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: the field.

686
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 5: Where that camera, that camera, that eye in the sky

687
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: will embarrass Yes?

688
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Speaker 1: Uh oh Joe Adam Fanler the cast deck. We we

689
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: ain't got I mean, we ain't got what you call him?

690
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: No?

691
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you just wrote that in there. That what you

692
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: just wrote this This tweeted.

693
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 5: That Webb well well weeb.

694
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

695
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Tuck, Yeah, Jordan Tuck made a good point on Twitter.

696
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Imagine moving on from George Pickens thinking the locker room distraction,

697
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: only to end up with Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback.

698
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: Well, I mean Aaron Rodgers is a different type of distraction,

699
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 5: a different type of distraction. Now, obviously I think he

700
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 5: knock going to cause any problem because his lease is short.

701
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 5: Because if you know that.

702
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: He is back up sorry, his least long hold.

703
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: Listen, you messed things up in Pittsburgh. Where's your next destination?

704
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 5: Where's your next home? I mean about heat. That's what

705
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 5: I meant you you have the leverage. You don't have

706
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 5: the leverage you once had, were sought after, were you

707
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 5: wanted the best in the league. You're still living off

708
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 5: that past resume, which is why I wanted and waited

709
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 5: for you to sign this late before mandatory mini camp,

710
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: because they don't have any other options.

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Speaker 1: Right, So at twenty a year twenty one, I mean,

712
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: this is gonna be his twenty first season. How many

713
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: more seasons do you think he really want to play?

714
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: He want to subject himself getting up studying film, studying

715
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: film all day money, studying film all day Tuesday, watching

716
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Speaker 1: film after practice on Wednesday Thursday.

717
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Speaker 2: And you know how long you think Aaron Rodgers wants

718
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: to do that?

719
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: Listen, hey, when you see what the AFC Nord's like,

720
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: ain't no tailor where he might be one and done

721
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Speaker 5: after this season.

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at twenty, I mean you take it first

724
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: of all, once you get to a certain number of years,

725
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Speaker 1: you take it eight. I probably a quarterback. Other positions

726
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: probably take it year teen. Quarterbacks probably take it a

727
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: year fifteen, especially if the way they protect him now

728
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: so he's gotten six years past year fifteen. Yeah, ain't

729
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: like Yeah, I don't think you try to eclipse Tom.

730
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: He tried to play twenty four. You think you try

731
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: to play twenty four seasons. Ain't no telling, Ain't no telling.

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Speaker 5: Because I obviously they will continue to sign in the

733
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: one year deals if things go well.

734
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Speaker 3: I listen.

735
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's a very ten friendly contract. I mean

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: thirteen ten guarantees.

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00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 5: Nothing nothing, that's nothing.

738
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Speaker 2: I'm listen.

739
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Speaker 5: I love the Steelers. I don't want them to do well.

740
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 5: I want them to do well, except when they play

741
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 5: the Bengals. I want DK Metcalf, I want Calvin Alston

742
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 5: the third, and I want Robert Moore. They have Robert Woods,

743
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 5: Robert Woo, I'm sorry, Robert Woods. They have phenomenal seasons

744
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 5: like they can. I just want to see him do well.

745
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: For Mike Tomin's sake, I steal a fans has always

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 5: been good to me. I fucking love all of them.

747
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: But when you play the Bengals, y'all neat, y'all ass for.

748
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh Yoe, we all heard with Joe Flacko's comments about

749
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: being a mentor or not being a mental should do

750
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: them well Russell Wilson was asked about how he approaches

751
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: mentorship with Giants QB Room, including first round draft pick

752
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Jackson dark.

753
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: I've always viewed it as I'm always tried.

754
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: To be at the very version of you, and then

755
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: you're always giving back to everyone else. I think I

756
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: think that's just not about one teammate. It's about all

757
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: the teammates. It's about everybody in the building. It's about

758
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: from all the way to the from the quarterback room

759
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: to the.

760
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: Receivers to the running back.

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00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, to me, it's all inclusive, and that's

762
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: always the approach. Russe says. I'm not just trying to

763
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: mindle the quarterbacks. I'm trying to mindle receivers. I'm trying

764
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: to mentor running backs. I'm trying to be the best

765
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: because I feel if I give to you, you're going

766
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: to give back to me, and then we'll all give

767
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: back to.

768
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: The team and then we'll succeed. You look what Russ

769
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: had to say.

770
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: Can you can't ask that man Rush? That's the preacher.

771
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: The preacher always gonna say the right thing. Huh Okay,

772
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: can't you can't ask You can't ask Rush that man?

773
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 5: You got to ask You got to ask somebody else

774
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: that question. You know, Russ is going to always say

775
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 5: the right thing. Russ is gonna run for office. What's

776
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 5: gonna run for mayor? Hell, R's gonna run for goddamn president, right, man,

777
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: he had he has the gift, the gap. He understands

778
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: the position that he's in. He's been afforded another opportunity

779
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 5: to prove himself, which I think he will do. But

780
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 5: in that situation, he has to say that does he

781
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: really do that way? Absolutely not. Hell, this motherfucker is

782
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: here to take my goddamn job. Yeah, he first round

783
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 5: pick out of my mouth, he's the first round pick.

784
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: I know, my least is short.

785
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he like to say that, does he really feel

786
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 5: absolutely not as a competitor as a football player.

787
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: And the thing and the thing is, though, Jose, look

788
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how long.

789
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, Russ came in in twenty twelve, So this

790
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: is year what fourteen for us?

791
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: Your fourteen for us?

792
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Good years?

793
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: Good yees.

794
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: So we're like, man, you try to speed up my

795
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: process to get out of the league.

796
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 5: I'm on that. That's what it is. I mean. Mentors, man,

797
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 5: she better, you better, you better, get it on your own. Hey,

798
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 5: just think about just think about that, people in the chat,

799
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: people in the chat that's listening. Think about somebody coming

800
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 5: to your job that's brand new and your boss telling

801
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 5: you who train them to take your job?

802
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: That's all it is.

803
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 5: And when you do a mentor as like as if

804
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 5: what you mean mentor like come on now, they make

805
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: it sound like it's a good thing, but it's really

806
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: not a good thing. The person is there to replace you.

807
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 5: When you're telling me the training will take my job.

808
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Talk about don't you get a man some porters on

809
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: your damn who tell the man how to beat man coverage?

810
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Tell the man how to god sit down in his zone, look,

811
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: turn on the film. Got to talk to him, he said, man,

812
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: he let me tell you what I do.

813
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Then what you do? This is what this is what

814
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: I do.

815
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: Nah.

816
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 5: Then, because listen you we don't we don't have the

817
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: same DNA. We don't have the same DNA, we don't

818
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: have the same quick twitch fibers. So even if I

819
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: do tell you what to do, you're not gonna be

820
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: able to do it because I stopped.

821
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: I just want you to tell if I just want

822
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: to say, hey, I learn from Ocho.

823
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: Nah, listen you Blad play mad Mad tell you how

824
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: to get open on everything.

825
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Hey, remember how they've got everybody to bet that we

826
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: trained with Kobe. I trained what Elija want? You know,

827
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, I just want to

828
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: say I trained with I want to trade with I

829
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: trained with Bruce Lee. Ye, that's why I want to

830
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: say I trained with Bruce Lee.

831
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: Hey, and don't look nothing like you.

832
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's gonna have their opinions.

833
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: It's it's very I mean, it all depends on the

834
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: quarterback because you know, but that's the reason why if

835
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: you notice starting quarterbacks they take the kneel down and

836
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: everything they don't and they do not Andrey they're gonna

837
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: fight through injured because they don't want you to get

838
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a look at the backup. The last thing I want you, man,

839
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: did you look kind of good in price today?

840
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 2: Ojoe did? Yeah, he threw it with some conviction block.

841
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: Nah, he can get the scout team refs, but he

842
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: ain't get no refs with them number one receivers.

843
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.

844
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: Damn.

845
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: So I looked.

846
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: It's to each his o, his eaches on. I mean, everybody,

847
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: there's no, right, there's no wrong. As long as you're

848
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: not you know, hey, as long as you're not giving

849
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: him no faulty information.

850
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: We're good.

851
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't really have no problem

852
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: on because I tried to help all the guys. I

853
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure if something were to happen to me,

854
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: oh Joe, they were prepared to go in there and

855
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: perform at a high level. But you know, I get

856
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: it from the other stand because, like I said, I

857
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: mentioned all those guys, and you know, Mike felt they

858
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: were good enough to replace me. And then the same

859
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: thing happened. When I got got to Baltimore. They drafted

860
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: Todd Todd heat after we won the Super Bowl. I

861
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: tried to, you know, do the best I could have

862
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: mentor him, and they're like, well, yeah, he's good now.

863
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: So they released me and I had to go back

864
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: to I had to go back to Denver. So I

865
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know, it is what it is.

866
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: Do you I was good?

867
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I would Let's just say with you, I wasn't disappointed

868
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: to go back to Denver.

869
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 5: I got you. I got you all right?

870
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Joining us now from the from the booty remember the

871
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: hot boy, what.

872
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: Are you doing?

873
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: I was so was So what's up.

874
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Joining us? Oh?

875
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Man? Man, I appreciate shall hap man? How you doing?

876
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: Man?

877
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: What's up?

878
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: We'll show being like St Shan Vegas cent a minute, man,

879
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: we ain't bumping shut out missed the breakfast spot in

880
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 6: a minute.

881
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, at Chris Cafe. I'm gonna be down. I'm

882
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 5: gonna be down that way in a minute. I'm gonna be

883
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 5: down that the way. The minute I gonna hit you. Man,

884
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 5: we go to that eat a little bit, man, talk

885
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: your politics a little bit, bet that tell us about

886
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: tell us about this happened that you just dropped freedom

887
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: of speech?

888
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: What what's what's in the name?

889
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh freedom of speech?

890
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: Man?

891
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 6: It just comes from you not just come home from

892
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 6: doing a twelve and a half year federal sentence.

893
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Right.

894
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 6: So you know when I first came home, they had

895
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 6: put a gag all on me, man, and pretty much

896
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: silaced me and told me they didn't want me doing

897
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 6: nothing pertaining to rap or entertainment that I could make

898
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: money off of, you know what I mean. So that

899
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 6: I had to go through that and go back to

900
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 6: court and fight it and go in front of the judge,

901
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean, It just was a lot, man,

902
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 6: that I had to go through just to be able

903
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 6: to rap again. Man, And I just felt like, you know,

904
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 6: they was parading on my first amendment.

905
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: Man.

906
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: They absolutely, they absolutely were. So you say, you just

907
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: came home, you did a twelve year bid going you're

908
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, people know who you are. I'm

909
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking that you're in G pop. You're not

910
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: in so and so now everybody knows who they are.

911
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: What mm hmm, what's what's what's the many? Cause think

912
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: about it? Be you had it all, bro, you I

913
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: mean you was, you was on top of the world,

914
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: and now a lot of.

915
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: The things that you probably took for granted you're like, damn.

916
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: Naw, that's a fag.

917
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 6: It's it's it's it's many nice man that you know.

918
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: I was in that cell when the lights went out

919
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 6: and shaded a tear too, Like, man, how to fuck

920
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 6: put myself in this situation?

921
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: Man? You know what I mean?

922
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: But you know it is what it is.

923
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 6: Man. At the end of the day, you know I

924
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 6: understood I wasn't no angel, right, and you know I

925
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 6: had to I had to take my lick and accept

926
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 6: what came with it. Man, they were trying to let

927
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 6: me out in like, you know, two three years. But

928
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: they wanted me to take some of my homies down

929
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 6: with me. Man. And you know, I ain't grew up

930
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 6: like that. That ain't in my heart, you know what

931
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So it was like I gotta stand on

932
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 6: what's real and and and take it on the chair

933
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean. So you know I

934
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 6: took my licking rope many.

935
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 5: Hey listen, hey, listen, listen, being being being behind that

936
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: ball man eleven twelve years. Man, it can change anybody.

937
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: I just got a young boy down here in Miami.

938
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: He just came home from doing seventeen. I said, I

939
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: asked him, you know, firstly when he got out, I said, well,

940
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: what do it feel like to do seventeen? He said,

941
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 5: they gave me too much time to think.

942
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: No, that's a fact, man, said, they gave They gave

943
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: me too.

944
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 5: Much time to think. So for you doing that eleven twelve,

945
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: what habits? I mean? How has your mindset changed differently

946
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: now as opposed to how it was when you went in?

947
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 6: I mean, you know when I when I went in,

948
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: I was you know, young, wow, reckless, you know what

949
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 6: I mean, so you know, it gave me a chance

950
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 6: to really like he was saying, like, appreciate you know

951
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 6: this this this this thing called hip hop. Man, that

952
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 6: that that that changed my life. You know what I'm saying,

953
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 6: change the people lives around me. You know what I'm saying,

954
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 6: Like put my family first, like you know, put my

955
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 6: career first. Put up you know what I mean, Like,

956
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 6: just just.

957
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: Just focus, man, Like I'm a proun example.

958
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 6: When keeping it real goes wrong, man, you know what

959
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like I had been you know, made it

960
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 6: out the hood man and not. I just don't surround

961
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 6: myself with you know, the same people I used to

962
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 6: surround myself with, man, Because at the end of the day,

963
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 6: you gotta understand when you outgroup mother for the man.

964
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, and that that's that's

965
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 5: a hard thing too. One of the things that you

966
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: just said is everybody can go on that journey. You know,

967
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 5: you get out and the same people again want you

968
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: to be right back in the same place that you

969
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: was before you went in there.

970
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: B it's it.

971
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, something I listen, man, I came home and sing

972
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 6: this song, but the.

973
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: Who who's that?

974
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: Yeah?

975
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 6: Twelve, Yeah, a third ten years, a little steel touring

976
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: the same ship I left him do.

977
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: And that's when I say.

978
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can hear us. Seemed like

979
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: it's ah, can you Oh?

980
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: How you went out on me? Okay?

981
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: They said, look, your physical body can be in prison

982
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: as long as your mind isn't in prison. Had a

983
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: hall boy says, Look is that when your mind isn't

984
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: it's incarcerated, that's when it gets difficult. That's when you

985
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: get guys doing crazy stuff and they succumb to those

986
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: four walls. How did you keep your mind outside although

987
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: your physical body was inside.

988
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 6: I ain't even lying, bro, Like it took me like

989
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 6: four or five years, you know what I mean, because

990
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 6: when I first went in, I really couldn't see the end,

991
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like that was a long

992
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 6: stretch for somebody like me who was coming from the

993
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: life I was coming from the lifestyle I was coming from.

994
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 6: And you know, they slamm me behind the wall with

995
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 6: all these lifers, and you know, dudes with thirty forty

996
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 6: sixty seventy years ain't never going home, you know what

997
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 6: I mean. So them first couple of years, like I

998
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 6: had found myself getting institutionalized, you know what I'm saying.

999
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 6: So you know, I started, I just started going to

1000
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 6: the low library, you know, started doing a lot of

1001
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 6: reading because I had put my pen down and everything. Man,

1002
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 6: I wasn't even right, you know, more because I was like, man,

1003
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: it's old for me. Man, like the game, it's hard

1004
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 6: to remain relevant in this shit for a couple of.

1005
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Months, like a year.

1006
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 6: So I'm like, man, I'm like, man, twelve years. Man,

1007
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, I ain't gonna I ain't believe in

1008
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 6: the beginning that I'll be able to make a comeback.

1009
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: Man.

1010
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: But you know, being a part.

1011
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 6: Of a click that pretty ones to find the error,

1012
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, which is that dollar sign

1013
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: cash money and all my homies you know, remain relative

1014
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 6: and still was doing the thing. It made that transition

1015
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 6: a little bit more easier for me, you know what

1016
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 6: I mean. But yeah, man, I just you know, the

1017
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 6: Internet has started the boom, man, And you know it

1018
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 6: was it because I ain't like when I went in

1019
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 6: and I was doing everything I wasn't supposed to do,

1020
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: Like you know, I'm told nih something.

1021
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm just I'm in there life.

1022
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know what I mean, and you

1023
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 6: gotta get with the program, you know what I'm saying.

1024
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 6: And then by me being who I am, you know

1025
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 6: you got to be a little bit more extra, you

1026
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, because you know niggas he really yeah, man,

1027
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 6: And I wasn't gone for none of that, you know

1028
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So you know it took it took

1029
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 6: a minute for me to just kind of life, you know,

1030
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 6: call down man, and get my mind all the way

1031
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 6: right and get focused and and realize like, man, I

1032
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 6: got another.

1033
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: Man.

1034
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna tighten up, you

1035
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, stay focused, read these good books,

1036
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 6: and you know what i mean, get back out.

1037
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: She'll try to put my life back together.

1038
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: Man, What was a typical What was a typical day

1039
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: like for you?

1040
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: So you wait, what you wake up at, what time

1041
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you do, whateffter that you do whatever that?

1042
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: Then what do you what time of the lights out?

1043
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: What?

1044
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: What was a typical day like for BG?

1045
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: Damn?

1046
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 6: I pop up five in the morning, Bam, throw my

1047
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 6: pop like six, I'm gonna make me a cup of coffee.

1048
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, why seeing.

1049
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 6: It see you know what I'm saying, Why seeing it

1050
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 6: with some of the old heads.

1051
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: He what's going on on the news, you know what

1052
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1053
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 6: And then bam, watch some first take, then catch the

1054
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 6: wreck y'arll go work out.

1055
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Come back in, you know,

1056
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: make something to eat. You know what I'm saying. Get

1057
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: on the phone, you know us for a few businesses

1058
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: or something. You know what I'm saying. Didn't go back outside?

1059
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 7: You know, oh, man up, go ahead, finish it about

1060
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 7: go ahead?

1061
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: Did it?

1062
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: Boo?

1063
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: Bah?

1064
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: You did that?

1065
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

1066
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: You said you hit to the reck yard? So you

1067
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: do a push ups? Pull ups? Do they have a

1068
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: weight room? Can you live weights? Or did they take

1069
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: Have they taken all the wayside of the facilities?

1070
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1071
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

1072
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: They acted. Man, they was trying to start.

1073
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: Some of these out. It was pull up steps, push ups, burpies.

1074
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, like all callous, that is man,

1075
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 6: yurel man. But that shit'll ripped you up.

1076
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: Due.

1077
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: So you said when you got back and you say,

1078
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, you make your coffee. You do what you

1079
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: gotta do you come back and make some food you

1080
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: was making?

1081
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 7: You?

1082
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh, you was making So you get stuff from the

1083
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: common sary. You probably get ramen noodle, you're getting the

1084
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: honey buns, you're getting a little babbie, You're getting certain things.

1085
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: So you actually cooking.

1086
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: In your room. Yeah, all late food. That was cold

1087
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: flooding with the cooking.

1088
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 6: So you know, I got all the previous every day

1089
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: he needs and we whipping up in the microweed you

1090
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 6: know that micaelweed?

1091
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: You make that shit? You think that ship came out

1092
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: the oven and off the stove or some ship you know.

1093
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: Come on, man, they put it out like that.

1094
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Man, they got.

1095
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: Fishing and start chefs in there.

1096
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, yeah they hey.

1097
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: Be talking about five star shifts. Shit me, when you're.

1098
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: I want to get back to you, I'm going to

1099
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 5: get back to the music, right. I'm gonna get back

1100
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 5: to your music right. When you talk about you know,

1101
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 5: the album the LP peach right, and when you went

1102
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: to talk to the judge about your first amendment to

1103
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: be able to wrap the way you want to despite

1104
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 5: you know, the conviction, to despite your past, were you

1105
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 5: able to win that so you can have them to

1106
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 5: say and rap about what you want to expecting that.

1107
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, because that's and that was their main thing, Like

1108
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 6: you know, they was trying to control my content and

1109
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 6: tell me what I could and couldn't rap about, you.

1110
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1111
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 6: And you not just felt like you know, that was wrong.

1112
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: I made a career for, you know, doing gainst the music.

1113
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 6: I ain't the first one to rap about it. I

1114
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 6: ain't gonna be the last one to rap about it,

1115
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. N W and two live

1116
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 6: Proof you know had this first Amendment fight thirty years ago,

1117
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I was I was

1118
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: looking at it from from that point of view. But

1119
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 6: the judge she ordered me to, uh, before I make

1120
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 6: any you know, raps of songs available to the public,

1121
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 6: that I have to turn them over to my po

1122
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 6: So my PIO could put them on the record, but

1123
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 6: they don't have to approve it or nothing.

1124
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, they definitely listening.

1125
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 6: Know they be listening, man, That's why they're trying to

1126
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 6: leave Jnsters Man. Be mindful, man, you heard me, because

1127
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: the people listening, man, and they'll take them wraps and

1128
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: turn them against you.

1129
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let me ask you this.

1130
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: Tell the people how they can find your documentary, because

1131
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: you did a documentary about your life on the outside

1132
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: before it started inside and now you're back out again.

1133
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: How can people find your documentary?

1134
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Oh? Man?

1135
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: Many from my other on my speech to documentary.

1136
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, It's just me, you know,

1137
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 6: basically know that I had because and they called that

1138
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 6: a violation of my probation. You know what I mean

1139
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 6: saying that. You know, they, like I said, saying, they

1140
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 6: didn't want me throwing nothing pertaining to wrap entertainment that

1141
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 6: I could make money off of.

1142
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: And I'm.

1143
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: So how you're supposed to live, how you're supposed to survive.

1144
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: We lost them, Sorry about that, guys of them. And

1145
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: this is a very interesting conversation. Oh Joe, this is

1146
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: what I don't get. Okay, you say, hey, bro.

1147
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: You can't.

1148
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: You can't hang around the people and partake in the

1149
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: life that landed you. Hear, Okay, cool, let me go back.

1150
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and get on this music thing. Nah,

1151
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: you can't do that, you see, that's why the recidivism

1152
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: rated so high. Yeah, first of all, it's hard to

1153
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: get hired if you have if you have a.

1154
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 5: Resident anyway, Yeah, definitely.

1155
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: So now people don't want to hire you. You're telling

1156
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: me what I can and can't do. Yeah, I ain't

1157
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: got no choice. Now you're telling me, so what am

1158
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: I supposed to do?

1159
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1160
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 5: I mean that's that's how it is. I mean, obviously,

1161
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 5: once you're once you're a part of the system, and

1162
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 5: you leave that system, the system still does everything they

1163
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 5: can to control you despite.

1164
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: Holding whatever you did over your head. I paid my

1165
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: debt to society. Hit you on your video. We can

1166
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: hear you, BG, but we can't feel you.

1167
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

1168
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what I don't get, O, Joe. I mean, bro,

1169
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: I pay once, I paid my debt to society.

1170
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm clear.

1171
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're supposed where you're supposed to You're supposed to

1172
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 5: be clear. Now you're clear depending on who you are.

1173
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 5: You know how they operate, you know how that you

1174
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 5: know how they operate. They move by a different set

1175
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 5: of rules, and there's some people that play by a

1176
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 5: completely different set of rules, and you know you know

1177
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.

1178
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: So for sure, O.

1179
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 5: Other than that, man, listen, and the fact that we

1180
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 5: do come out, you try to do the best you

1181
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: can with whatever record you have and hoping that you

1182
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 5: can get that second chance and grace and whatever it

1183
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 5: is that.

1184
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: You do if I'm a football player, Oh Joe, Yeah,

1185
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: and I let's just say I have a slip up

1186
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: and I do something that I get, I get cent away.

1187
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah when I get out, and I'm saying I'm twenty

1188
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five. I'm twenty six, right, but nah, you

1189
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: can't play no football with Yeah. Oh this is small example,

1190
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: mister Ruggs. Well, wait, we got to beat you back. Okay,

1191
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: beat you I'm gonna start back over. Tell us about

1192
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: the documentary. Where can they find it? And what what

1193
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: is the documentary? What does it entail?

1194
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: Man? A documentaries on YouTube.

1195
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: It's on my YouTube channel, and you know, it's basically

1196
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 6: really walking you through everything that I had went to

1197
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 6: through what led up to my incarceration, you know, what

1198
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: led up to me being silenced, me going back and forth,

1199
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 6: the core and really just you know, me telling my

1200
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 6: story man, because it's a generation of motherfuckers that don't

1201
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: even know who I am. I feel like I'm reintroducing

1202
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 6: myself to the world, you know what I'm saying. Because

1203
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 6: I've was going for so long. I got you know,

1204
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 6: my core solid, you know, fan base that grew up

1205
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 6: with a motherfucker. But it's like, I'm just you know

1206
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, trying to introduce myself to you know,

1207
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 6: a whole different demographic, you know what I mean, And

1208
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 6: and and these you know what I'm saying.

1209
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: He's eighteen to twenty eight year olds and you know

1210
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1211
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm just getting something wrong, man, basically,

1212
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 6: you know, trying to let them all fethers. Don't don't

1213
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 6: let them know they ain't got to be like me, man,

1214
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 6: be better than me. Man, you know what I'm saying,

1215
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 6: learn from my mistakes.

1216
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying. Like I've been there,

1217
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: done that, you know.

1218
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes you you gotta go through it yourself.

1219
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, moll father, don't be more head.

1220
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 6: But that still don't mean you know what I mean.

1221
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna tell you right.

1222
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 5: Hey, b what be what you think about the state

1223
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 5: of hip hop right now?

1224
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: Man?

1225
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 5: What's what's ther what what's your thought about the state

1226
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 5: of hip hop right now? Boss? Man? Oh?

1227
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: Man?

1228
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 6: I mean you know I'm I'm I'm a hip hop

1229
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 6: fan man in a hip hop head man.

1230
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: So you know.

1231
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: It, man, I I it's it's definitely different now. It's

1232
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: it's it's you know what I mean. Like, but I

1233
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 6: don't want to sound like the.

1234
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: Old head, you know what I'm saying, be hating and

1235
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: all this and all that. You know what I'm saying.

1236
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's it's really really different, man, Like

1237
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: I wish you not come up in the era. Well,

1238
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 6: originality and and and authenticity you know, created longevity, you know, understanding,

1239
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 6: and I don't be getting.

1240
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: A lot of that.

1241
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: You heard me, you know what I'm saying.

1242
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 6: Like, it's like everybody you know a lot of dudes

1243
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 6: be sounding us the same, you know what I'm saying,

1244
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: and will work for him, might not work for me,

1245
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 6: Like we'll work for me, ain't gonna work for you,

1246
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I should just be

1247
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: wanting to hit get a little bit more originality, man,

1248
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

1249
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you.

1250
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: Have you heard have you heard uh Weasy the new

1251
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: song the Menu album the card Si?

1252
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm riding to it now. Well

1253
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 6: I listen to it one time. I'm giving it a

1254
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 6: second go through right now.

1255
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: I tell you, let me, let me ask you this,

1256
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: give me your top five rappers and they can be

1257
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: they can be all New Orleans based. But if you

1258
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: if somebody saying, you know what, BG, give me your

1259
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: top five live past the present. They can be all passed,

1260
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: they can be all present, they can be dead, they

1261
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: can be alive.

1262
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: I just want to know who you who you think

1263
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: are the best five?

1264
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 6: Tupac scoff Face, Oh uh, Tupot scuff Face, Little Wayne

1265
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 6: Soldiers slim and uh and.

1266
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 5: Me, Hey, hey, hey, b G. You know listen we

1267
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 5: took told by that talked about that little Wayne, right

1268
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 5: h Listen that song Maria with y Cleft and yeah

1269
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 5: yeah and the beat that the beat that made Fresh

1270
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 5: Maid for being myself. Man, listen, man, that's that's I.

1271
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 6: Ain't gonna lie to that, that one he got with

1272
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 6: that one he got with Big the Plug.

1273
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1274
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: I'm stuck on that one, right, I'm stuck on that

1275
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 6: one right now. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said,

1276
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 6: I gotta listen to because you know Wayne, you know

1277
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 6: his word. Please, So this is you know what I'm saying, that's.

1278
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: Gonna be over your here.

1279
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 6: It's gonna take you three times to listen to for

1280
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: the you know what I'm saying.

1281
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta, I gotta.

1282
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 6: I got a record on this deluxe album that I'm

1283
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 6: about to drop for freedom of speech with me little

1284
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 6: wine and bust the rhymes. Man, that ship, that ship,

1285
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 6: that ship gonna be Yeah, it's it's. It's one of

1286
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 6: the ones. It's it's one of the ones. But yeah,

1287
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 6: now I'm on that six right now.

1288
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: Like it.

1289
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: Who you gotta win in the finals? You watch you

1290
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: you you up on you up on sports?

1291
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I'm putting my money on

1292
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: o K. See. Man, they blew me up the other night.

1293
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I should have took and

1294
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 6: did with the points. But I thought I thought. I thought, okay,

1295
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 6: se was gonna stand on business. But I'm yeah, I'm

1296
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 6: still riding with ok C. Man, I ain't. I ain't.

1297
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna wear the white flag.

1298
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, hold on, hold on, you got gee? You sure

1299
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 5: you shure you're gonna okay? See because I got I

1300
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 5: got the pace. You try you try to better or something.

1301
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 5: Hey man, listen, hey, I ain't got that old show.

1302
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: Money gonna be a little friendly bit. You know what

1303
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 5: I meant, little friend.

1304
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 4: Friend say that hey, bg, he.

1305
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: Don't pay.

1306
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: Right now, he don't pay, he won't be fitted out

1307
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: hundred right now?

1308
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1309
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh, let me ask you what when you when you

1310
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: were inside? Did you write it? Did you write anything

1311
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: when you was inside?

1312
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1313
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 6: Man, I got a couple of movies that I'm about

1314
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 6: to I'm about to put out.

1315
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying.

1316
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 6: I got an Urban livel I started on my autobiogle.

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Speaker 3: Fee Yeah, man, I was yeah, Yeah, I did.

1318
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: I did.

1319
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean I was going dope with decade. You know

1321
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1322
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 6: So, yeah, man, I did a lot of right man,

1323
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 6: I got a little material.

1324
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Speaker 1: Man, let me ask you this, had you not been

1325
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: sat down for a period of time, would you have

1326
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: taken time to do what you do if you want

1327
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: to be outside?

1328
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: No, I mean, jail saved my life.

1329
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 6: Well, just to be honest with you, man, you heard me,

1330
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 6: And I'm just saying like if I wouldn't on whether jail,

1331
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 6: I'd probably be dead or in shall the longest sentence,

1332
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, so you know, I

1333
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 6: don't think I needed that much, you know what I mean?

1334
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I probably could

1335
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 6: have learned my le You could have been home, and

1336
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 6: you feel like I probably would have learned my letters

1337
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 6: and about five ships.

1338
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1339
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 6: But you yeah, man, it's saved my life.

1340
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: I could be honest with myself about that.

1341
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, the boy put two pennies on the dimes. They're

1342
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna pull that.

1343
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: Nah for real, for real, for real.

1344
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: So your family, I obviously had to take a toll

1345
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: on your family because nobody wants to see a family member.

1346
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: How did that make you feel?

1347
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: Because you know the family see you, but damn, y'all

1348
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: got to see me like this behind this light, like

1349
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: like I'm in the zoo. And then I know it's

1350
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: tough on them when they leave, and I know it's

1351
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: tough on you when they leave.

1352
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I was it was hall man, Like you know,

1353
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 6: I left the streets like my oldest son was eleven

1354
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 6: years old, you know what I'm saying.

1355
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: My daughter was three, you know what I'm saying. My

1356
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 3: other son was five. I come home.

1357
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 6: I thought of graduating high school, my other son in college,

1358
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 6: my other son, you know what I'm saying, Like I

1359
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 6: come home the whole man with the bed like tough

1360
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 6: I'm saying like I'm talking about, it's it's it's man like.

1361
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 6: But you know it's like I had to get to

1362
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 6: know them all over again. You know, even do they

1363
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: walk there being down with me, you know what I'm saying,

1364
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 6: And you know we jose truth visit and through the

1365
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 6: phone and you know, through mail and all that. But yeah,

1366
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 6: it definitely wasn't easy, man, you know what I'm saying.

1367
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: But you know it grew you up. It grow you up.

1368
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 6: I read that, I've read the I've read the I've

1369
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 6: read to them see me. You know what I'm saying

1370
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 6: in jail, and you know, have to come visit me

1371
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 6: in the grid yard, you know what I mean.

1372
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I told him, I totally I totally get that. So man,

1373
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: glad to have you home. Best of luck on the documentary, guys,

1374
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: go check the album out. Freedom of Speech, BG's First

1375
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: Thing is his first album since being out.

1376
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: He got a documentary, he says, he got a novel.

1377
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: He got an autobiography coming out, detailing his life, what

1378
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: led him to where let him.

1379
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: And how he turned his life around. He said, he

1380
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: ain't going back.

1381
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm done, you know what I mean, I'm done that ship.

1382
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 3: Oh a bird. Man told me to send y'all his

1383
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: love too. Man, you heard me. I hollered at him

1384
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: for I came home, man, he said, Man, let him know. Man,

1385
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: send my love. Man.

1386
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man, Thank you very much. All the best.

1387
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: Congratulational being home. Hey, good luck on the documentary. Good

1388
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: luck on the autobiography. We're gonna ohe you're not gonna

1389
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: check that album out, check.

1390
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: It out, man, Thank y'all. Brother love love love all right, yo.

1391
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: Man, that's that's tough for yo. Yeah, that's tough, man.

1392
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean to go with like I said, you go

1393
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: away and you got kids and you got to relearn

1394
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: them all over again.

1395
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: On your time is the one thing.

1396
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: Time is the one thing that you can't It's the

1397
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: most precious commodity that we have because it does my

1398
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: thought is what you cannot make up. Yeah, and once

1399
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: it's gone, it's never to be recaptured, you know. He said,

1400
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: I got it. I had a thirteen year old when

1401
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: I went in, I had a five. I had a

1402
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: three year old. Yeah, bro, we donet half half their life.

1403
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 5: Everybody grown.

1404
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: Now they got to relearn him. He has to relearn them, man.

1405
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. Listen, I'm glad that everybody

1406
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 5: don't get a second chance. No, no, I'm glad he's

1407
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: been afforded. It's been afforded a second chance. He's been

1408
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: hive and grace and then the good thing about it,

1409
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: some people go in and take their head right back

1410
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 5: because they ain't learning less than the first time. But

1411
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 5: you listen to him talk, you could tell his sharp

1412
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 5: now his mine different. His man.

1413
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: About three weeks ago on my podcast, he like Shannon,

1414
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: I knew he like, once I get out, he said.

1415
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 2: I know I wasn't going back.

1416
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, because I knew I wasn't going back.

1417
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've had homebus and Noah, sharp, man, i

1418
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: ain't going back in hell.

1419
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: Three months later, they're right back in there. You're right back,

1420
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: they're right back. Hey.

1421
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes it only take it. It takes for it takes

1422
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: for him to sit you down one time long enough, man,

1423
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 5: you can't get that time back, man, man.

1424
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: Nah, and all the stuff the free you talk about bad,

1425
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: I hate you ain't got nothing in there. They tell

1426
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: you what time to get up, what time to go

1427
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: to bed, where to go, when to go, how to go,

1428
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: what to do.

1429
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 2: When you get there.

1430
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

1431
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Adam Sandler will cast Deack Henry in a

1432
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: movie if if he runs for another two thousand yards.

1433
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler sent Henry a message saying, two thousand yards

1434
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: plus this year not only gets you in a movie,

1435
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: but I'll have a nice dinner together and talk about

1436
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: dan Patrick facial era and how hard it is for

1437
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: him to grow.

1438
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: I love you. Keep it up.

1439
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: Henry one of nine players to ever produce a two

1440
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: thousand yard rush season. He did it in twenty twenty.

1441
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: If he eclipses two thousand yards and twenty twenty five,

1442
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: he'll become the first player ever to record two two

1443
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: thousand yard seasons and could earn a cameo in a movie.

1444
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that, they don't need to be no cameo.

1445
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: I need you. I need to have it about ten

1446
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: minutes in the movie.

1447
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 5: You need the whole thing. You need to be the manustraction.

1448
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: At least ten minutes. Oh Joe, you got to think

1449
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: about the NFL. The NFL is one hundred and six

1450
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: hundred and seven years old. Yeah, nobody has ever done

1451
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: two thousand twice? Right, Yeah, man, I need I need

1452
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: about ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, listen, he's in the right

1453
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: situation to do it. He's sure it's to do it.

1454
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 5: You know over there with Lamar brother Babman Brother Brothers

1455
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 5: the Flowers.

1456
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: Listen, he'd got two thousand and didn't listen to me

1457
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: early instead of put him in that offset eye.

1458
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: And put him h yeah, yea yeah, yeah. Well listen,

1459
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 5: they know now, they.

1460
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: Know nine told him man a man, shut up.

1461
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: You don't know what.

1462
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: You put the man in the eye.

1463
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an eye back yeah, yeah, because he did.

1464
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. The thing is he needs to get ahead

1465
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: of steam. He ain't want him quick back to jump

1466
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: stop like sake on Jamire Gibbs can run out, can

1467
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: run out of the offset.

1468
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 5: Montgomery could do that too.

1469
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's not but that's not him. He's

1470
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: an old school he's a he's an Emmitt Smith. He's

1471
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: a Bo Jackson, a herschel Walker. He's an Eric Dickerson.

1472
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: He's that guy what his heels at nine tossing the ball? Yeah,

1473
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: land the ball, mm hmm.

1474
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1475
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

1476
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: They bull jotted around the first three games. He bully

1477
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: had two thousand, could have had it. Yeah, you know

1478
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: what he might hit it. You got to realize that

1479
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: was his first season. Man, mm hmmm, that was his

1480
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: first season in offense. So now he's already activated. He

1481
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: knows the plays, you know. They they understand what he

1482
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: can and can't do. They understand their strengths.

1483
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 5: And I'm crazy for even saying they understand his weaknesses

1484
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 5: as well, and what not to do with him. Man,

1485
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,879
Speaker 5: ain't no telling what he's gonna run for them. Yeah,

1486
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 5: the volume