WEBVTT - To Serve & Protect...

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome to episode number three of the Gates

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<v Speaker 1>the Chronicles with Reggie Right, James McDonald, and Alex Alonso

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<v Speaker 1>from Street TV. Alright, appreciate you coming in with us

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<v Speaker 1>and hanging out. I guess I hope you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a regular guest over here. But we'll see what we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Well, cool, cool, cool, So tonight episode

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna deal with we's something, um that you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're all about and what what you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>my backgrounds and law enforcement and the police. And then

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<v Speaker 1>James Mob James, you know, you know where he's from.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter of fact, I want to give James a shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is his birthday. I appreciate you coming in for

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<v Speaker 1>and um spending some time with us on his birthday

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<v Speaker 1>and because you could have shook us no no, no business.

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<v Speaker 1>First exactly exactly. And then man, a very very special

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<v Speaker 1>guest on, Mr Alex Alonzo from Street st TV st TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, I'm know that that oh you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you used to call it, well, it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>street gangs. But I had to, uh, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce my platform to a larger audience, so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sanitized the name. I went from street gangs to

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<v Speaker 1>street TV. Can you get any bigger? Man? Because you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be having some good some good episodes. And there's always

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<v Speaker 1>room for growth, man, there's always um, you know, new

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<v Speaker 1>things to do, and technology is constantly changing and the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet is growing and social media is growing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going as big as we can get. Well, cool, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your working on I guess well. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a lot of respect out there because of

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<v Speaker 1>the different neighborhoods you'd be going into. Some people say

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<v Speaker 1>I got a hood pass to every hood, but it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't really like that. It's just you. You you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk in, you got to camp. Hey, I could actually

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<v Speaker 1>tell you there's a couple of hoods where I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to go in, like for real, for real.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into those specifically, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know there are some people that they push against what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, and you know, I got to navigate through

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<v Speaker 1>that from that. Looking at it, you could be a

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<v Speaker 1>police type of ship not knowing you, or you could

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<v Speaker 1>be undercover or not. It ain't even on none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about they want to document themselves and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to control how they're depicted. And even though I have

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<v Speaker 1>a huge platform and I want to give people in

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<v Speaker 1>these neighborhoods an opportunity, they feel like we'll do it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I respect it, and I go where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm welcomed basically, but most places I'm welcomed down. Very

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<v Speaker 1>few problems, um, very few issues. And I love what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Cool. Cool. Uh see you want to New York? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from? Originally? I was actually born in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, but I came to l A at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of eleven and pretty much been here ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>I came here in the early eighties, and I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in the West Adams area. Yeah, and I hit

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<v Speaker 1>I hit l A right when it's just in the

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<v Speaker 1>thick of it, you know, as a as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw all the eighties. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from? From? In the last ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>So you you gotta wear l A had now, Well

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<v Speaker 1>I switched up to me when when you see me

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<v Speaker 1>with different hats on, it's really part of my uniform

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not representing what the logo is. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll get into the show because you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of knowledge, and you know, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to touch you on you got anything or any

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<v Speaker 1>Nipsey stories, you know what. I actually met Nipsey back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven for the first time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working on a TV show. I was working on a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot for A and E. And I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of l A street guy young street

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<v Speaker 1>guys to be a part of this new show. And

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<v Speaker 1>I eventually got seventeen people to to shoot for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted Nipsey to be one of those and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to get them at the time. For

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a whole another story. But then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a year later they hit me up. His people hit

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<v Speaker 1>me up and said, hey, you still want to do

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<v Speaker 1>that interview, and I said, well, initially I wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to be on this show that I was doing for

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<v Speaker 1>A and E. But I'll I would love to interview

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<v Speaker 1>him for for the platform, and they said, yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So I ended up interviewing him in February

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand nine. And it's one of the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>Nipsey Hustle interviews. There's about maybe two that are older

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<v Speaker 1>than the one I did, so I met him early,

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<v Speaker 1>gave me his mixtape, Bullets Ain't Got No Name, and

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<v Speaker 1>people remember he did three. That's why I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a fan of him. He did these three amazing

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<v Speaker 1>mixtapes Bullets Ain't Got No Name, one, two, and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and that pretty much put him on the map in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. Everyone's like, man, this guy could rap. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember telling someone in two thousand eight or nine, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna blow up. I said, this guy is really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna blow up, and everyone's like, Nah, he ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>blow up. I'm like not. This dude has he has

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<v Speaker 1>the look, he has the swag. He comes from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest neighborhoods in l A. So he's got

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<v Speaker 1>that huge backing, and he's got talent. And he choked

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<v Speaker 1>like he got an old soul. He does like he

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<v Speaker 1>got old soul, like he actually been there, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been there when slow some boys first came out the

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<v Speaker 1>way they used to talk back in the days. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I was watching this looking at his interviews, and

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<v Speaker 1>he talked like he'd been here before. You wouldn't. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say he was thirty three years old. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying like like how Tupac talk. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was smarter than Tupac. Actually, well he's

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<v Speaker 1>eight years older, that's true. Yeah, that's a good You

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<v Speaker 1>can't compare year old and expence is totally different from Tupax.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could look at Nipsey when he was twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and a lot of old videos and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>try to make that comparison. And you gotta remember Tupac

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<v Speaker 1>came from UH, from Baltimore, the Yard, Oakland and all

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<v Speaker 1>of the neighborhoods. Well, Nancy just had that on own

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<v Speaker 1>training right there in south central l A. And he

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's just gonna keep it about that. And

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<v Speaker 1>he had, you know, older brother, Tupac Din you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have an older brother and all of that. The guide

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<v Speaker 1>even all of that, Tupac was pretty much the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of his cruise or his sets what everybody was at

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<v Speaker 1>when them seeing you know, I kind of had people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, to be up under, from Big Hi

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<v Speaker 1>to UH to his brother Sammy and all of those.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a big difference. Yeah. But also Tupac come

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<v Speaker 1>from a black panther back, come from that, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>some revolutionaries. He had a lot of uncles and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still was raised by his mama. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>Nimpsey apparently was too, even though his dad, he said

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<v Speaker 1>he was in his life a little bit, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot. Apparently, I'm gonna give the edge to

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<v Speaker 1>year old Nipsey over old because because Nipsey was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about investments, he still haven't. He was talking about business,

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<v Speaker 1>he was Park was just a part Park was a

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<v Speaker 1>talented dude and all he talked about was partying, and

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<v Speaker 1>han't talking about that at nip Yeah. Yeah, you go

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<v Speaker 1>go look at some of his very first interview that

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<v Speaker 1>he did with um the guy from the Bay Area,

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<v Speaker 1>his name of coming in a second. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three years old talking about I'm not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>buying this jewelry when I can't afford it yet I

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<v Speaker 1>need to I need to look at investments. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>look at my future. He was twenty three talking like

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<v Speaker 1>that and either oh seven or oh eight. So I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people, might you know, dislike the

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<v Speaker 1>comment that I gave Nipsey the edge over Pock when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to knowledge and intellect. But I'm confident in

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty five year old nip was just slightly sharper

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<v Speaker 1>than the year old pop. Did you see the interview

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<v Speaker 1>that Park did at the age four at the Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>Crusade with Danny Bakewell and that about the three strike laws.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what my favorite part interview was the

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<v Speaker 1>one he did from prison when he let his hair

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<v Speaker 1>grow in. I mean, he was actually sharpened at an interview. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. It's really tough. That was a sharp interview

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<v Speaker 1>that pot game from prison, you know, but yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>really one, how do you feel about Nipsey working with

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<v Speaker 1>the police to get the gangs together and you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of gang bangers are attempting to Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it never happened, it out, but I mean, well it

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<v Speaker 1>never happened because he was killed, so we never know

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<v Speaker 1>what would have happened that Monday. But he was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only ones was working on that get him

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<v Speaker 1>close to you know, the gangs, trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cease firing the whole nine. How you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you work with a lot of gang members

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<v Speaker 1>and and some game members might say they're not with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody say they with it like the ones they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how you you think it will work. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I commend it for for planning to just have those

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<v Speaker 1>discussions with law enforcement. Everyone that works for GRID, g

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<v Speaker 1>R y D, Gang Reduction, Youth Development, the gang members

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<v Speaker 1>that are ingrid, they have to work with the police.

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<v Speaker 1>So we already got over two dozen former slasherformance. They

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<v Speaker 1>call them informants. We got raping money. They the real

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<v Speaker 1>game members doesn't active in it and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a problem with them, Yeah, they might, they call

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<v Speaker 1>them snitches, but there's some ogs that are that that

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<v Speaker 1>have solid names out there that are part of the GRID,

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<v Speaker 1>that that work with law enforcement, and there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>around it. Yeah, if you're working with the city, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all for. I'm just telling you know. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing little guys and out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>people know my background on both sides, I always know

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<v Speaker 1>that those guys had got jackets and they didn't respect

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<v Speaker 1>them or they didn't talk about them about this situation

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<v Speaker 1>until they got in trouble. Then they wanted to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to them and see who they can help. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know about six or seven GRID workers and they're

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<v Speaker 1>all solid. They got them in the Jungles, they got

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<v Speaker 1>them over there and Hyde Park they got him in

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<v Speaker 1>in West Adams. Even unfortunately twin from rolling these got

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<v Speaker 1>killed in July of two thousand and eighteen. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a grid worker and he was a solid guy from

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<v Speaker 1>forties crib. So there are some really good, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>respectable guys that work with grid, work with the city,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're forced to work with law enforces. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of there's a lot of gang

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<v Speaker 1>bangers junctions out there that don't know nothing about grid

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying that they've never heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not about telling the police information about the gang.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that might be a misconception that grid

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<v Speaker 1>workers are not there to inform on other gang members.

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<v Speaker 1>There there as like a liaison between the streets and

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement to say, hey, you know, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the youngsters, and I said, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give them some information. Then you you tell the police, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to those guys and they're gonna be quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's not about like giving names and providing information.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that grid workers do that. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard of grid workers like I haven't heard of any

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<v Speaker 1>cases either. Let me just clarify that and clarify that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that's what people that's from the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, well, he worked for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he getting the chet, he get paid by the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Police look out for him and take care of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and so stay away from him, or we don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that in front of him. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the danger of doing this gang intervention professional work.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people just think it's it's a simple job, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're there to help curb violence, help curb gang conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still a dangerous job for all those good

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<v Speaker 1>workers because you never know when these young knuckleheads I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're an informant or think you're working with the

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<v Speaker 1>police in a different kind of way. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>even talked to the police sometimes when I'm out there shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to stay away from them because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who's looking, I don't know who's watching um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's it's almost impossible not to interface

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<v Speaker 1>with law enforcement when you're out in any streets and

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<v Speaker 1>you have constant out there that are good that is

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, like uh, you know, Darren dupri And

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<v Speaker 1>and Compts like that. And you know from when the

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<v Speaker 1>l a like my father was Reggie Wright Senior from

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<v Speaker 1>Compton when he was working in Compton Police Department, that

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<v Speaker 1>that people couldn't have tru have good relationships with. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you have those type of officers that you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to know which ones there there are. The police

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<v Speaker 1>of the day is really willing to work with the

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<v Speaker 1>game members. There's so yeah, you're not gonna ever get majority.

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<v Speaker 1>You never had the majority. You're never going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a majority of them that believe because some believe in

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<v Speaker 1>this kicking as taking names and moving on where you

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<v Speaker 1>have something that's working in those those types of divisions

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<v Speaker 1>and the smarter ones and all of that since the

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly since the riots. It started trying to happen

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<v Speaker 1>since the riots, when law enforcement was like okay, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know well the riots was a result of the

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<v Speaker 1>right and the keen beating when they saw that Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go to jail for putting our hands on

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<v Speaker 1>these people like this. The public is not really tolerating this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really has if that happens. But this this is

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<v Speaker 1>own thing. What these guys is trying to do for

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<v Speaker 1>Nipsey and and my whole thing is I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it was the kids. It was meaning for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids that he was trying to help it for,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the most important thing. But it jumps from

0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the kids to these I've seen a lot of interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and these guys just threatened their own home boys for

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<v Speaker 1>all the big homership, you're fools and wo woo. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>come and and support this and this and that. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going by the wrong way because I'm telling you, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>ain't wienies like this. I'm not gonna get that cat,

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<v Speaker 1>no shout out. But like that boy there, like that

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<v Speaker 1>boy they killed Tupac. Come on, man, you you're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with some serious knuckle heads out there, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So how can you get the game bangers,

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the police together. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? It's just the first step, James, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think this is the first step towards

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<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna take five years, eight years in years,

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie just mentioned the riots. How many years ago was

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<v Speaker 1>that that was almost that's twenty almost thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>And how much progress have we made? I think we

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<v Speaker 1>made some progress in terms of law enforcement. Not not

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<v Speaker 1>that we would want, but I think we made something

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're seeing more officers being indicted on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>I look up the indictments. Every day. There's a cop

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<v Speaker 1>getting indicted somewhere in America every day. Um, thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably didn't see that many law enforcement arrests, right

0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're seeing more. Look, we have the top l

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<v Speaker 1>a county sheriff and his sidekick both serving five years

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<v Speaker 1>in prison right now, Lee Baka Paul Tanaka. When does

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<v Speaker 1>that ever happened before? When when your chief and assistant

0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.520
<v Speaker 1>chief are in prison? You know? And and you know

0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Lee Baka he trying to play damning, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>he pretty much gott You know, I won't to work

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<v Speaker 1>because if it worked out, would be a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But my whole thing is first, you gotta you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just keep talking about it like they did in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two and ninety two. I said it wouldn't gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>because all they want to do is talk and drink.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna work. Now you're talking about the truth

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, So what what what What they to

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<v Speaker 1>me is what they need to do is deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the the neighborhoods. First, I think it's a huge step

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<v Speaker 1>because the sixties and the A trays, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>that's the top of the food chain when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the neighborhood and gangster call. So if you got

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<v Speaker 1>about what twenty other neighborhood crypt gangs, you got about

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<v Speaker 1>what the gangster crypt gangs, they're all gonna fall under

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<v Speaker 1>with a tray and sixty do. But didn't a tree

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with because it seemed like Big Hu

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<v Speaker 1>was making a shot call and calling that uh that

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<v Speaker 1>that march and all of that. Didn't they have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that? You know, I don't know, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard anything specifically, but hey, I mean somebody's got

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<v Speaker 1>to step up and take that position, anybody, And that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of cats respect him, so he should take

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. But then you put your bring other other

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<v Speaker 1>major hinders to the to the table. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And I'm saying in each hood we called

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<v Speaker 1>the cease fire. We don't go out and do nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>When Big You was walking, he was walking side by

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<v Speaker 1>side with Mad bone O g a track, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>with arms around each other. So I mean everyone should

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<v Speaker 1>have but you know what outside's probably don't know. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's an O g A track. You know, everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>Big You because he's you know, he's become a well

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<v Speaker 1>known guy. I think I truly believe it a work.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you gotta bring in respect, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta start respecting each other. Not just today. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta switch phone numbers, and we gotta talk. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta sit down and break bread on how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this. And once you do that and cease fire,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's try this for one month, and then the next

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<v Speaker 1>month we tried again, and then another month we come

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<v Speaker 1>in and see how we can incorporate that may give money,

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<v Speaker 1>make money to buy this building, to get so many

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<v Speaker 1>kids in there. Because and what happened on the getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to the riots or the truths that we had

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know the late nineties three, well you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened was and I was in law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>deep into it. There. Yes, you hear about a guy

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of James from from mab Paru And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm Timmy from Nutty Block or or wherever. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I've always been wondering who was Marv James from

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.919
<v Speaker 1>from the mab Parules area that shot and killed my

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<v Speaker 1>cousin or my brother Timmy, that everybody from the neighborhood

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>always talked about. And now I'm finding myself frattenizing with him, setting,

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<v Speaker 1>drinking and all of that, and eventually it got to

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<v Speaker 1>be too much. Well allegedly, well I just threw out

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<v Speaker 1>names and even bitch. Everybody gotta look gay, man, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what called to break up. That's what they started.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who persons are listen. Everybody lost in the game war.

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<v Speaker 1>My neighborhood lost, man, I'm team brothers. Every neighborhood lost

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of men. We at the point I lost

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<v Speaker 1>my brother by gangship, but unfortunately was the homies. That's

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<v Speaker 1>over and and these guys gotta look at it. That's over.

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<v Speaker 1>You living now for the future, for your kids, your grandkids.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people weren't able to put it, sweep it up

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<v Speaker 1>under the ruck from from the experience, that's where that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the big homlies come from. And that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>you you put your foot down. Like like with the police.

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<v Speaker 1>If the police come in this situation trying to work

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<v Speaker 1>with with the gangs and they get out of line, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the police got to maintain their own Arrest them,

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<v Speaker 1>put him in jail, let them know we're seriously about this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only way we believe that they're serious about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If if the police come beating you up and and

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<v Speaker 1>saying this and that, we don't want it to work.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you check them by their own people?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? You have to see it with police,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really have anything to gain by seeing a truce,

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<v Speaker 1>by seeing peace because because part of their business is

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<v Speaker 1>gang violence. They have Gang Enforcement Detail which used to

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<v Speaker 1>be crashed and they all lose jobs. And they have

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<v Speaker 1>Gang Hardcore Division, which is the legal arm of the

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<v Speaker 1>l A District Attorney's office that prosecutes it. So they

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<v Speaker 1>have an agenda to see this continue. That's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Let go back to the quotas on tickets

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. I don't buy into it because

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<v Speaker 1>I know as a cop, I was never told to

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<v Speaker 1>write this many tickets or you got to write this

0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.159
<v Speaker 1>many tickets. I think it's just an unwritten rule. You

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<v Speaker 1>have gang Worsemen Detail, we'll just call the crash. You

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<v Speaker 1>have crash. These officers make money, they have kids, they're

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>putting their kids through college to be gang cops. So

0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>how do you employ these people. You gotta have gang conflict,

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.959
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have gang problems without gang problems without gang conflict,

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a gang enforcement detail. So what

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<v Speaker 1>what role are they supposed to play when these gangs

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to bring peace and come together? Like what

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>what's what? Would there be a sincere role that law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement can play the gangs get along, There would be

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<v Speaker 1>something you go to major crimes, or you go to

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<v Speaker 1>unsolved or something. I just I just don't buy into

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<v Speaker 1>that because I know about the quotas and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know they don't like it. Uh for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, Um, the good ones. Now you got some cops,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I saw something on Facebook. I told

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<v Speaker 1>the story before. Or you have two white cops in

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the car and they were applotting each other because, um,

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they were giving each other high fives because some some

0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.199
<v Speaker 1>black guys just shot each other and say, oh, you

0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have to do anything. You don't have to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything because they take care of it for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>and so you have those type of officers. You have

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<v Speaker 1>some of them, but as a majority, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>most people want to see that ain't right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just on that note, you don't think the police out

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<v Speaker 1>of here is racist, especially in l A. They won't

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<v Speaker 1>give you the time of day. You have a percentage,

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but do you have some There's enough, there's enough to

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<v Speaker 1>say it will never work to have a percentage. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not wanting to believe that all cops are

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 1>bad and all cops are going. I'm not all of

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>them not bad. And I'm sure you don't rent the

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<v Speaker 1>two cops that were good and that you speak Kilia

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<v Speaker 1>and you here's the problem with most lap D officers.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the ones that you like. At the Nipsey

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<v Speaker 1>Hustle Memorial, I met a bunch of captains and higher

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 1>ranking law enforcement officers that seem to get it. They're

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>talking what you and I would be talking. But the

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that are on the front line, that are patrolling

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.880
<v Speaker 1>these neighborhoods, the ones that come to court to test

0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.399
<v Speaker 1>the fight against these guys, they're the younger officers. And

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the younger officers have a different mentality than the thirty

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 1>year veteran that that comes to the gang meeting. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's like this divide within the l A p D

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of young cops that they don't care about gang members.

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.239
<v Speaker 1>They will actually talk down about them. But then when

0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you talk to a captain, he's talking to like he

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.639
<v Speaker 1>understands the plight, he understands the problem, he has some compassion.

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So within this one organization, how do you have this

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>divide of officers that think two different ways. You've got

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to have witnessed this when you was a told stories

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.439
<v Speaker 1>plenty of times where we I had a cop in

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the car with me, tell me which they dropped a

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>bomb on the city or Compton. And I had to

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 1>remind this, two of my grandparents still live in this city.

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Where are you talking about? I think those are cops

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that James was talking about. When those cops exist, then

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>progress is gonna be so minimal. I truly believe that

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that in the situation like this, you extra police out.

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>You do not use the police at this point because

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.879
<v Speaker 1>it's still fresh, everybody is still trying to get on

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the same page and you don't need anything that. I

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just think the problem is and looking for me outside

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>because I've never been a game memorial. You know one

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you know professed to be one is that? But I

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 1>know about him is that when one guy is calling

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>for the truth or stuthing like that, then the other

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>games feel like this dude think he has too much

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>power in the city, and jealousy happens. That's what happens,

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's where the problem called. This young man is

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in jail now with that that got shot with um

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>with Nipsey. Why do you all really believe that he's

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>in jail? They got him more provo violation. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they got him in there because he refused

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<v Speaker 1>to talk and won't tell him anything, so they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>late and he's actually victim. And oh, I totally disagree

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>with this this arrest, but I'm just trying to explode

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>explain to people why why is the custody and we're

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about I think cousin Carey, I mean, because you

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk. I just man, yeah, Cousin carry Yeah,

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you honestly say if if if I

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's great, and then I just won't give a

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>shout out to it right quick while I'm thinking about it,

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>free Cousin Carry Many lad TV is doing uh uh

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>something on his page where he's uh they're doing uh

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a go fund page where At last I checked, it

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was up to about sixteen and seventeen dollars for his

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>legal fund. If anybody can go and support that, it

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>would be greatly appreciate it. Here's another problem I have.

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>If you really want to know what a gang cop thinks,

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>go watch a trial. I work in a lot. I

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>get a lot, right, So I listened to these every week.

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Listen to an l ap D gang cop that's about

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>to thirty years old testify. Most of us never even

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>get to watch these cases, but I work closely with them,

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and the stuff they say, understand is absolutely ridiculous. Some

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>of the craziest stuff they say. Of course, their agenda

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is I want to get a conviction. I need to

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>help this prosecutor convict this guy. So they'll go on

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to stand and say almost anything, and maybe one day

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>we can have a topic. We're all bringing some transcripts

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and we'll read some of the testimony that these l

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>A p D officers and um l A County sheriff's

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>deputies say in court. But then I will meet their

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>bosses at a ceasefire meeting at a church, and they're

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>saying something completely opposite. You know, So this this divide

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>again within the culture of police. That to me, I

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>can't trust it completely because the bosses are letting these

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>young cops kind of do their thing at the same time,

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and they also have a code, Am I right that

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>we protected on regardless of well, I'm that's pretty much

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>going out the one to I mean, the cops investigated

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 1>each other and they turned each other in, and so

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not going on going on like we think where

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that blue wall or that blue light the blue line is.

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not, it's it's you know, no social media and

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot has has helped uh um, you know, tears

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that down. So I'm just not one for it.

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I just don't believe that. I know it's dirty cops.

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 1>I know it's a percentage that is out there that's dirty,

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not one that's gonna say it's the massive

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>is dirty. Are are against the system? In the game

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>day man, I wanted to work so bad because I

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was challenged still that I have a nephew out there.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to be bad, wanna be this, wanna be that.

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring him to the show so he

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>can see different things. Uh. I think it's important that

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm many nephews you got. We all got nephews. We

0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>all got brothers. I got Timmy got how many kids? Kids?

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 1>And the majority of them is boys, and they all

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>they all repping the neighborhood. How do I save them?

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Because everybody want to get

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>out here in the streets and and click together. If

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>each and every man that's that represented gang just stopped

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and got his nephews, his little cousins out of the gang,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it is shrink so so fast, and it'll be easier

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to maintain what you have now. But and doing that,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they got him in there. They're watching them die. They're

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>watching them die. I don't want to see my nephews.

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of them up there die. I

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>got one. He's sixteen years old. Uh, everybody ain't meant

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a father. I'm gonna say that. Um, he's

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>running the streets, sleeping in cars and ship My sister

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>tried to get him out in Fontana, nice home. He

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be there. He want to be from

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the hood, you know what I'm saying. He wanted he

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>wanted to to go to the nipty hustle thing at

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the State Well you don't even got a car, how

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna get there? So he got his other

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>cousins and and he finds his way there, and you're

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>speaking to him as an og, a big old g

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's not listening because you know, we always said,

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>well the OG's gotta make him listen. The youngsters is

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>not that sixteen year old black man I said it before,

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is the most dangerous guy in America or a person

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>in America according to some people, because they don't care,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>they don't have anything to lose, and all of that.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So my point to all of that is where, you know,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>how do we combat at that. He needs an opportunity,

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He has an economic opportunity. He needs an employment opportunity

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>where he sees a future right now, he doesn't see

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a future from that. But they're not going to do

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the jobs that his his uh, his education and all

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of that that's going to allow him to get. Because

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you can go get a job at McDonald's. You can

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>go get that job. But he's not gonna do that.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>So what job? What economic he can he can get

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>some training electric electrician um. He hasn't finished high schools

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>sixteen and he don't he's not even finishing in high school. Yet.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>When I went to junior high school, they had mechanics.

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>You learned all that. They don't got that in schools,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>no more, none of that where you can work on cars.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>You're good with your hands. He's good with his hands.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Now you're getting tattoos on his hands because he ain't

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to do. And then the police tell you

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>can't chastise him because UH is abuse. So how do

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I take my son and embrace my son who whipping

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>his ass to keep him alive? You can tell me,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Come and tell me. I need to know, because I got,

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I got so much. We might have a female perspective

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>here on what to do well. I am an early

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>education UH teacher from at USC, and you definitely have

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to start them young. Apparently he didn't have that experience,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, from you know, from the beginning. It has

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>to give them experience. And when I used to go

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>out with Alex and doing these interviews with all these

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>other gang members, the number one thing, and Alex used

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to ask them, you know, why what's going on? Why

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>are you in the gang? Basically, Oh, I grew up

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>with my grandma. I didn't know I didn't know there

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was anything else, and that sticks with me to this day.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>We have three children, teenagers, and it sticks with me.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. You mean, you didn't know there was

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a beach out there. You didn't know there was smc

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>out there. You didn't know there was a junior college. No,

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. So it's your job, if you want

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to make a difference, is to just take them. Just

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>take them, give him the opportunities, Just take him, show

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 1>him something that he does not know. Maybe one day

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it'll click. You might take a year. Just keep going.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Just you can't give up. You just gotta keep going,

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Just keep going. Yeah, I think the main thing, like

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>she said, you gotta start young. He's sixteen, so you

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>know it's just not him. This is this is where

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>well I'm saying, that's gonna stop the gang the gang ship.

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>This is where everything ties in together, you know, the

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>big homies. Get your nephews out of the games, get

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>your sons out of the games, and and show him

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>something different. Let's save our own, you know, let's stop

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>blaming other people and asking other people to help us.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>We can we can do that ourselves. So I'm trying

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to my sons went to college. My son James Jr.

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And my youngest son, Jayden, they went to college. My

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>baby boy went to Texas A and m my oldest

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>son went to college. Raising his daughter since she was born.

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>They went out to hospital by herself. She's eleven years old,

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>so mind understand. But it's Tremney and all of them.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>These are my nephews. So looking at what's going on now.

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>A long time ago, I didn't care. I didn't care

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>about life period and didn't I didn't care how we

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>got down. Let's just do what we do. This is

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>part of the game. So being on the other side

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>of the fence and and seeing my nephews and seeing

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>my best friends getting gunned down for nothing, it's like wow.

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But I can't sit here and be a hypocrite because

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I participated and the same thing I'm trying to stop

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>right now, you feel me? So how do I just

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>slide by in the shadows? How do I cut this corner?

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>How do I do this? It's playing simple. I am

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>who I am. I did what I did. I regret

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>what I did, So let me pay it forward. Let

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>me start by helping my nephews. Because everybody got a

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>nephew or a cousin that's doing something stupid. Well, I

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>think you just got to plant the seed. I'll tell

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you what. I used to work at at Culver City

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>High School and my job was to counsel the gang

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>members there, and I felt like none of these kids

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>were listening to me. None of them paid attention to

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what I said. They were just forced to sit there

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>for an hour to talk to me once a week.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And then years later, after that program was done, Uh,

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a UPS driver knocks on my office door to bring

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>me a package. And it was one of those kids

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that I had counseled years before, and he told me

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that I had an impact on his life. It didn't

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it didn't materialize then, it didn't happen right then and there,

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but he just remembered things that I would say to

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>him every week, and however it happened years later. He

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>went up getting a job and started working for UPS

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and figured it out. So all I would say is

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>just just keep on planting the seed and one day

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the light bulb will go off in the guy's head

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you said that. I got a guy

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>on my my message hit me through messenger and he

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>was just talking to me the other day. His name

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Lee. I want to give a shout out to

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Lee. He be that she expects. I mean, you

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>know what is and he just he just telled me

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>thank you all the time. Man. I literally just show up. Man,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say whoop the whoop, this and that,

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and that makes me feel good like I'm okay, I'm

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>doing something right. You know what I'm saying. So shouts

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>out to him. Man, I'm keep doing what I'm doing.

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to go out here and just

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>grab some cat off the street and say, man I,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but this truth thing gonna work, is gonna no. Let

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>me start with my nephews, you know what I'm saying,

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because they're in the thick of it. They're in the

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>thick of it, and and and the scary thing is,

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I got so many of them trying to game bang

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but don't even know how to game bang. Don't walk

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>with your head down. Uh. One of them ain't gonna

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>say no names, and they probably you're trying to figure

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>this out after they hear this. I don't even know

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>how to say Paul Roue and just you're gonna lose

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>like that. They don't hear it. So I just got

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to find another way to teach him. And and and

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm just running short and and my patience is like

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>real thin because I think I'm losing and I don't

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>want to do that. So here he is. I got

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>my nephew and I told him I'm gonna bring him

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to the show. And this is what I'm gonna do.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I want you to see and meet people that's doing things,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>that's trying to save lives like yours. He ran away.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Now my sister been taking care of him for two

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>years and and he runs away. He's on Instagram doing

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about things you would never think a kid

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like that would be doing the saying. So I came breaking.

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I came breaking, like like really like breaking, because that's jail.

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything you really could do except

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>just continue to plant the see, continue to be encouraging,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully one day something will hit. But I also

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 1>think that in terms of the truth, um Compton, the

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>East Side, Watts, other parts of l A really weren't

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>impacted by this. This is more like a West Side

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.959
<v Speaker 1>crypt But and I say that because I think all

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>these parts of l A. L A so huge, just

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like the second largest city geographically, So there's gotta be

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a Compton movement. There's gotta be a long Beach movement.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>What what these brothers did on the west side the

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>other day was just the west side. You know, I

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>don't on that side saying they don't even know Nipsey.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna say this today. It's not about Nipsey.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It's what those dudes initiated and what they're trying to

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>do now. And if we can say one life every

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>night for three and sixty five days, you did good.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>That's ain't nobody getting killed. That's and that's Compton, a

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 1>lone beach and all that. So they need to get

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 1>with the program and get on that because it's all

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>about us. It's all about and that's what you're saying,

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>we got it, And that's the black panther or the

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>way they do it. That's worry about ourselves, and you know,

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's get ourselves, you know, our neighborhood or

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 1>where we at. And then you know, we can't try

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to do the whole city or of l A and Compton.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>It's too big. So we just gotta do this segment.

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>We gotta have people in that segment to do it.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>People in this segment like a pie. It's like a pie.

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>It starts in your neighborhood. We don't have to go

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>to this meeting to do it. We just sit down

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>as the homies and say, man, y'all time. Yeah we tied,

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>we ain't going out and we ain't doing nothing. We're

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna show our support that way by laying our colors

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and our guns down. You don't have to go to

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>no meeting talk to the police. You can just say

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>we're good. No activity and everybody know what that means.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>No activities next to no activities, and all these guys

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>need to hear that part. No activities. That's how you

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>support the West Side. They the sixties movement, that's how

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you support that. But what you guys, I don't know

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>if you guys were were, But before that day April five,

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>there were two huge meetings, one on April fourth, one

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>on April three, with hundreds of people, especially the one

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>on April four, hundreds of different crips from different sets

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>from around that area. Oh yeah, this is this was

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>already was already in place. So then April five came

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.919
<v Speaker 1>and then what happened on April said it was doing

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that under the radar. Then, yeah, so what happened those

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.479
<v Speaker 1>those two days, those two meetings. I think the meetings

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>are important. It kind of inspired what we end up

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>seeing on April five. You know, it wasn't just That's

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>why everybody was so like like quick to join it.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean when I saw them walking down that street,

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this ain't just happened. Not you're right,

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it just happen. Just can't because and those two meetings,

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>those two meetings were like critical and they were revolutionary

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>because it brought different sides to the table on those

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>two days. And then the fifth is what we all witnessed,

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I thought it was beautiful. You no, no, no,

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it was it was let's talk about the rumors because

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you didn't heard it and and um and

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>you you got your ears to the ground. Uh. They

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>want to blame it on the police. I've blame it

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>on the media. Try to put out there that um

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>uh you know the shooting after the incident, I was there. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>because you talk about those that was those related to

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>the you're talking about when they were at the memorial

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that would have been on I think that was April one,

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>about two days after Nipsey was killed. There was a

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>big trampling that one. And then I also you're talking

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>about the shooting, the one and the one in Nickerson

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Guards correct. Yeah, uh, you can say were they related

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>or not. I don't think they were because at the distance.

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't believe both of those shootings were

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>related to all that was both on the east Side

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>was in Watts and people don't know, you know, because

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>we got a big broad audience how far away. That

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>is the thing is why some people might say it

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was related. Because Nipsey's procession went through Watts. It actually

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 1>went to Century and Maine, and I'm not sure someone

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>happened three or four hours later. Yeah, that's what I'm

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna say. I'm not sure how much time had passed

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>after the procession had passed the Century and Maine. It

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>also did go to Watch, but I don't I don't know.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I just think that there's some East Side stuff going on.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And also before Nipsey was killed, there was a there

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>was a spike in crime going on in March early March.

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, all of March saw a spike from January

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and February, so we might be in some sort of

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>trend now, an upward trend of violence in Los Angeles summertime.

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Summertime it always happened like that every year. Yeah time

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>when schools get out, I always recognized and when at

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of the school that's when the youngster started

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a few shootings in March, and it might have something

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to do it. I think it's just too early to say.

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about the the hundred and third

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and Main shooting except that it was an older guy.

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And the guy that got killed in the Nicholson Gardens,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>he was a well known guy over there, so I

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think it was related to Nipsey's funeral. Well, I

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to get that cleared up if you we

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>had the information. The media was on that. The media,

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to make a big thing. Oh this happened

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.280
<v Speaker 1>after that, And I was like, well, do you believe

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that that boy said that he was paid to do

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 1>what he did? Come on, we ain't gonna talk about

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, don't that's stupid people that's on the

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>internet to make that severing The attorney wouldn't even bring

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that up. That wouldn't even come out attorney quick he

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta got so. Yeah, he jumped on that, you know,

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>for publicity and all of that. So that's fine. He

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even quite a pointed. I thought he might have

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>been quite a point but I found out he's not

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 1>even in the quarter pointed pool. No, he's not a

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>he's not a Barkin attorney private private, that's that's Uh.

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm cloud chastein and needs. I'll do this for free.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:22.959
<v Speaker 1>But we don't know. We don't know if he's getting

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 1>nobody paying for who's gonna pay for? Uh, we don't

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 1>know the economic status of his family. Good point. And

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's too early to say that Christopher Darden

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>is doing this pro bono. I believe so, but good point.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Time will tell you. I believe Chris Darden is getting paid. Yeah,

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>two three hund knowledge. There's a little deafenety case. Uh

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely hasn't been filed, but it's going to be. So

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>if it is, then it might see a new attorney.

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, attorney has changed all the time, many times.

0:42:55.560 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>It should go through. He had no money countrue everybody, Yeah,

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't man, that's why he was there, and that

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that's why he's in the position that he was in.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>If this case goes to trial, we can't even assume

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that Christopher Darden is gonna be the defense attorney through

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>this entire process. This trial is not gonna happen for

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a year or two if it goes to trial. So

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but I don't believe that any of those what's gonna

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>go to trial because he's gonna try to play the insanity,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>uh that since who'll get down he was crazy and

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>not the government. That's people out there they want to have,

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Tupac still allie that that's that's those

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>type of people that's that's put that stuff out. I

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>think for the city though, it would be good to

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>just give this guy a deal and just jump on it,

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's it's very traumatic for the family

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to sit there in the trial. I've seen it so

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>many times, you know, to see his family and his

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>kids have to be dealing with this all over and

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I truly don't believe it's don't go nowhere. I think

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>he's going something's gonna happen in jail. I don't think

0:43:55.040 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>power untouched. You think that the share out at that level, James,

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the sheriff are gonna let this guy get killed on

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>their watch. This is too high profile. They can't even

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>move in out of the sale without video camera. Yeah,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we're talking to a guy that ain't know you know,

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>in that high power situation. One time I was I

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was visiting an inmate. That's not a place in jail

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can't be. Yeah, but high power you're different.

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I started to believe James. I was visiting an emmy

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in the county jail once in the in the lawyer's area,

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and I actually saw Should come down, which just by coincident,

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he probably had a sergeant. It was like five deputies.

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>One was holding the camp. You know how they move

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>high power O jail, everything is documented documentary. They have

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a sergeant there. Also. They don't want the liable liability

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of his family sing the heck out of the sheriff

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>department of coming out. So I think I think he's

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be uh, you know, he's guarded well guarded

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>as well. But now you know what's to go to

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the now that it's the same thing when when she

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was going through it. You've seen on Facebook people posting

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he got killed and all that. Ship and conspirators and

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>liars are two different things. You went out with the

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 1>government did it. You said he was paid sea Now

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>for the government to do it. That's not even something

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 1>that came out of his mouth because because his attorney

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even allow that to happen. Yeah, there's nothing coming

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth exactly. Yeah, so cool, so um, yeah,

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we probably have to rename the show still. You know,

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 1>we kind of veered off the first gang. But but

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>here's the last thing I'll say on the on the

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>whole police first gang relationship. A lot of people might

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>not know this, but they are actually documented police gangs,

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>most of them in the sheriff to be Vikings. Vikings. Hey,

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Paul Tanaka was the Viking. Yeah, there's the three thousand

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Lynn would say, the three thousand boys that was in

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the county jail, the l a county jail that he's

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 1>speaking of, and there's all. There was also the two

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand boys. I just learned this from um Karl Douglas

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>because he sued a lot of sheriff uh Barl Douglas

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>was a guy on the old j Yeah, he was

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>on case back at but now he is the most

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>successful civil attorney that sues law enforcement. And there's at

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:30.800
<v Speaker 1>least three more that I don't know the names of.

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>So they have them. Yeah, these are actually they have

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that clue and they have they have been tattooed. They

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>had an incident, Uh what do you. Guys got into

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>a big fight among themselves at a Christmas party behind

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the click. That's how some of it became public because

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the deputy decided to sue the other deput

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:53.439
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's safe to trusted those I would say, these guys,

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about ten people out of uh an organization

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of ten thousand. No, we're not going to I would say,

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell about the ones that's in the particular gangs,

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I would say there's at least a hundred percentages that

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>break down. It is very small, but these are these

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>guys have lots of power when it comes to police

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and gangs. Though these are the guys on the front

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>line police. There's not a lot of gang enforcement officers.

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>So the question is what percent of gang enforcements these

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.919
<v Speaker 1>were guys in. They were in county jails, the Linood station,

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>they were at a station which is now in the

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>central station. I think they even they might was always

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the central station. I forget how that went.

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The vikings. What the vikings are The county jail deputies. Eventually,

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>every every deputy has to go to county jail first,

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that's their first assignment. Then they get trickled into the

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>departments eventually, so that culture gets spread to wherever they go.

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Like like I always said, it's a percentage that are

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.359
<v Speaker 1>bad cops. I'm just saying the percentage is under two

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to three percent. You're doing the percentage of the whole department.

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I would say, let's do a percentage of gang cops,

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the ones that actually their responsibility is to investigate gangs.

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>What percentage of the old gang cops are actually in

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 1>these gang clicks. That number is definitely higher than any

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of the gang officers been associated the clicks. They've always

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>been officers in county gls, are at stations and stuff.

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Not in the crash r d Well Raphael perezidem had

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that skull tattoo, they were gang officers. They were just

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 1>regular patrolments. Well, they were parting as a whole. I'm

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>saying they were just boys that hung out the gall

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>No I think that. I think Raphael Perez and his

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>partner um Nino Darden, I think they were crashed officers,

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the ones that shot. Let me just say, this is

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>what they did. One day, they shot a Latino gang

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>member named Javio Vondo. Paralyzed them then when it got

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.359
<v Speaker 1>a gun and put it next to him and they

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>put a case on him. He got sent to twenty

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>three years in prison and he sat there for two

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 1>years until he got exonerated, and he lost his ability

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:06.879
<v Speaker 1>to walk for the rest of his life. Like I said,

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the l A p D officer did that to Javier Vando.

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We we we we got him in the neighborhood. Now,

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>how many cops do you know that coming to hood,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>pull you over and start talking to you and then

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>start popping you upside your head? What'd you call? Yeah,

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of anything like that. But my point

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to point to, my point to that, my point to

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that is complained. And I know we don't like to

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>go on to go and go complain because where the

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>departments believe now where they're smoked the fire and what

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean by that one time nothing may not happen

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the second time nothing. I'm not mad the third time,

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 1>but you should get three complaints like that. Trust me

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>a department. They're going to oversizes out there now where

0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna something's gonna happen. You our complaints of the

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>cop pass, that's what we got. The more you have

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>an impact, we don't have it on. If you don't

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have it on on the phones, the camera phones. Now,

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the only way the cops going to get dealt with

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>is people got to be educated to complaint in the

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>streets and getting pulled over by the police just on

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>some route change ship shouldn't happen. They're gonna work your

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna beat you if you're payings shagging, they go,

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 1>they go. You know what you said, don't happen. I

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>see it every day. You know what I've observed lately

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 1>in the last maybe five six years, that there are

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 1>less and less black cops out there. It's mostly Latino

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>cops and white cops. Especially Confident is all Latino and

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>something white cops. What happened all the what happened is

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the one we need more blacks, We need them, but

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:55.479
<v Speaker 1>they can't pass the background. They came past it because

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they're going to get in trouble. But listen, and the

0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 1>ones that do go through the school and all of that,

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you go beat, You're gonna be attorney, You go, you

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>get better job. Well, then how does the shriff hiring

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Latino cops that have gang backgrounds? They got Latino cops

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>as brothers is from like white fence and and I

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>get this is because your brother is related. Don't make

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you relate? Does that be like a red flag in

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the hiring process? You get the red flag and they go,

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they go through some hill and you know how many

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>backgrounds you know how many Latino sheriff deputies come from

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>gang families? How many a black cop would never get

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>hired if it came from a black family. Never. But

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not getting hired at the same rate that these

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Latinos get high because they're not generally applying and going

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>through the process to do it. I mean, be honest,

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>only one of the people that actually apply make it

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>through the final process. But the problem with what the

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>black what black people when we do go through that,

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>usually we got a lot more going on ourselves where

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>we choose a different profession. That's what generally LPD has

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.320
<v Speaker 1>a very good salary for for they they choose a

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>different profession from the Mexicans. How many black do you

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>see in Compton? It's a handful. And how many and

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>compare that to the last I see more well in

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>l A County. In l A County, look at the

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>rate of where it is with the Mexican population and

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the whites and the blacks. I think the Mexican's out

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>raid in in l A County. Right, Yes, it's only

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:37.479
<v Speaker 1>like black and it's like Latinos. So what you're gonna hire? Moral?

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I just think that um and and a lot of

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>black inmates in the county jail complain that there is

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 1>a preferential treatment to the Latino Mexican. And from this

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.440
<v Speaker 1>from the from the cops, from the sheriffs, that the

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>police in the county jail. So I'm like, man, where

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>are all the black sheriffs? Where all the black officers at?

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't they getting hired? They don't want them, That's

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:04.000
<v Speaker 1>not true, they want them. They're just getting wild filtered out.

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I see a lot of black cops that are ranked

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>high ranking because they moved up, but they've been around

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty five three years that they moved a lot of

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 1>high ranking black coples. I don't see them patrolling the neighborhood.

0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Back in the days Compton was had more. It was like,

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like I just said, because of the hiring process and

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>behind the background checking. You know, Um, do you think

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 1>about it? Um, a person to go through college and

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>all of that, Where do we see our black do

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we tell them to go go to college to become

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:42.320
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement officers? I got a cousin named Tony Williams,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>went to college, went to the military, did this, did

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>eight years in military, came home and was denied l

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a p D. Why I don't know, but he ain't me.

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He's just smart. But just because he went through it

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>don't mean that he didn't have a checker, our spotty path.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>They just kept telling him like, you'll never really know why,

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And they have reasons why they say they get You know,

0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I learned. I learned some of the weird questions that

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they ask. Like, for example, they'll ask you a question

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 1>if you pull your mother over for speed, but you

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>pull over, you pull someone over for a speeding ticket,

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you find out that's your mother. The question is do

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you give your mother that ticket? What's your answer, James, No,

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the answer. They want to hear because if you

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 1>say yes, I will let's say you're a liar and

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>boom you. But I think some of these But if

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you're a new recruit, you're thinking to yourself, I get yes,

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give her the ticket because I want to

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.960
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing according to the law. Right and

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and those are called stress tests, and those are generally

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 1>when you a senior cop have been around already, they

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>act questions like that. The perfect example. And I'll give

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you one. You gotta fire and you're out there direct

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and traffic, and then you see and then you while

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you're out there direct and traffic, you see somebody burger

0:54:54.120 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>rising a house? What do you do call it? In

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what you'reupposed to do. Most people say, I'll run

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>over there and do it. But you you forget life

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 1>over property. Yeah, and so you out there saying, you know,

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 1>directing traffic. So you're supposed you're really supposed to be

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out there, what saving lives or preserving something happening to

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a life or injury, and now you want to you

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>went away from that for property, so you have, you know,

0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>questions like that. But it's a whole bunch of stuff.

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I really think we need to get a better understanding

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>why a lot of African Americans either are not applying

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 1>or they're getting denied. And why are they're getting denied

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>because I know they're applying, right, we know they're applying,

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>but they're definitely not getting hired. They're not in our

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods patrolling. Um. You know. So, I think that's a

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 1>question that we don't know the answers to that right now.

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>This is the question is yeah, but it's not gonna

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>be as many as as the Mexican. But affirmative action

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to to guarantee some sort of equitable hiring process,

0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Like there's women being hired now that that in the

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>early eighties, they would never hire them in the lap

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.839
<v Speaker 1>in the early eighties or late seventies. Would you put

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Mexicans you just said you have versus

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>nine percent, you're gonna try to go in with the

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>all the games you got in comfort or black majority

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of that's not true the Mexican that's just the one

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you have. The Mexican games are out, she'd be seventy,

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 1>she'd be threes. You have the money bigger compting down

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:29.439
<v Speaker 1>that seventy Mexican over thirty percent black. That's the ratio.

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>When I was a common conficent was seventy the black Mexican.

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:37.359
<v Speaker 1>But the difference, how can they come over and tell

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>me what I need to do and they don't know

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:45.399
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Who already? Man? I mean, I mean,

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know better than I do. Use the police. And

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 1>you know how like going to certain neighborhoods and certain people,

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the black games ain't been in respect of these officers

0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because they they don't see black officers at there. So

0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>what does they do? They keep getting on. They're gonna

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>run and run, and then it should get worser. And

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>then how does it look when you have a Latino

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Mexican deputy or officers shooting and killing a black gang

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 1>member that ends up being unarmed, like just happened in

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the Compton a seat of black pirrou dude got shot

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and killed by a Latino deputy. And how does that look?

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't look good. But like you said,

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>when you have uh, you know versus you're gonna have

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that incident where you're gonna have seventy cops all of

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a hundred cops are Mexicans. Should we're basically fighting a

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>losing battle. And well, I think I think l A

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is dealing with the same issues. And you see them

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 1>because all of y'all moved up the found town there.

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that white power should they do. And you see

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing a lot of that police officers doing this.

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, should they be here? Oh if you

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>get a card doing it? And you don't think they

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>deal with it when they when they catch her, and

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't think they deal with the losers. I just

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>think the old gang social media will get you five

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:14.479
<v Speaker 1>quicker than anything in law. Enforce that police, our ship,

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 1>our own self. Look the shaff the new sheriff of

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 1>l A, l A sheriff that he just rehired a

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>bunch of deputies that were lost their jobs. He put them,

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 1>he put them in an upper management because he had

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to get his boys. And that's one thing you better

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 1>do against the wishes of the county border supervisors. That

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was one incident. I think you won't hired two people

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>one or two one or two people, but most of

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>the people who brought back it was because he was

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to get rid of that. But that's his mentality.

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's just one or two people. But his

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>mentality gives are bad cops. But I'm rehiring him. His

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 1>thing was that he didn't feel that they should have

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 1>been terminated in the first But that's not a decision

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to make the county border supervisor count you know, the

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>five county border super the county his budget. We were

0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the balls stuff that, Sarah, because we don't voted to man, Well,

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know of the budget. That's it. They just control.

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>They can give him a dollar versus a hundred million dollars.

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>That's all they can do on because he's voted. He's

0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:15.959
<v Speaker 1>a he's a you know, he's voted by the people.

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>But the control that they have over the sheriff is

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the budget. You know, he can go and request this

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of money and they'd be like, I don't know,

0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 1>we're not giving you that. So that's why you gotta

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>play ball with him a little bit. Well, I think

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that the sheriff is starting off kind of on a

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.240
<v Speaker 1>shaky ground already. Oh yeah, you know. He but that's

0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 1>how he won. That's how he We have never had

0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a sitting share losing the election. I don't know how

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Jim McDonald lost that and actually Jim McDonald favorite. He

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorite. He comes from Low Beach

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and all of that slice permament. But they hated he

0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.920
<v Speaker 1>was not he's not a politician. No, it wasn't that.

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a good old boy. That's the one thing

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 1>about the share They are a good old boy system.

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>They take care of with that with within. Then so

0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:03.560
<v Speaker 1>they got or well he went to Long Beach. He

1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 1>went out there to the beach. But that's what happened,

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and he seems appeared to have been a good guy.

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 1>He just wasn't a sharer. And they are a good,

1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>good old boys system. They got rid of them quick.

1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.920
<v Speaker 1>You figured you get ten thousands, you get ten thousand

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 1>UM sharffs against you, and they go tell all their

1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:26.520
<v Speaker 1>family members to vote and get out a vote. What what?

1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:29.400
<v Speaker 1>What the sheriff one with a million votes in UM

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 1>in the l A county If that because we don't

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>get out the vote like we shared, the likelihood of

1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing a black person lead the sheriff's department is probably

1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible because it's all it's all politics, politics, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here's a question the lp D. It's all about appointments.

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff is about elections. Elections, what's the better system? Share off?

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<v Speaker 1>But once you get elected, you control all the other positions, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically all of those positions are elected because one

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<v Speaker 1>guy gets elected. So I've always felt that elections should

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<v Speaker 1>be out of policing. That's a good point. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? That's a good point. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you have politicians running a police department. Do you want that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because politicians an't gonna go about what their preachers say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then you have your ministers and your pastors

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<v Speaker 1>running running police department. Well, in Los Angeles, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the mayor has uh power to to fire the

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<v Speaker 1>chief of police. Well, he said the commission, that's but

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<v Speaker 1>he the one that appoints him. In the city of

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<v Speaker 1>l A. No, I think he just recommends, he approves it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the mayor's final decision. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he do all departmental heads unlike most city managers. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>that's the city manager job in most cities, But the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of l A is the city manager for But

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor always goes with the with the commission says anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>that really because he appoints the commission. Yeah, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really the mayor's decision, but he has the final state.

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<v Speaker 1>He does, but one has a mayor went against the

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<v Speaker 1>commission's suggestion. You know, I don't think it's happened a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. I don't know, But yeah, man, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>police verse gang thing is a conversation that we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be having for years. I truly believe. But me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, don't even involve in him right now because

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<v Speaker 1>we could do it ourselves. It just takes each neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>to police itself. That's where that's where the big homies

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<v Speaker 1>come in at. But we need money though. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we need resource intervention and prevention. It requires money. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it starts. It starts with the parking recreation something. We

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<v Speaker 1>save money. We save money. Every neighborhood in the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles comes to everywhere else generates money. Money

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<v Speaker 1>come through? Is it you gotta spend your money, You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta spend money on doesn't cometing? Do you really see

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<v Speaker 1>that generating money? I ain't said no business, no black

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<v Speaker 1>own business. I'm saying street money. Guys got money out there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they're gonna put it back into uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Into the neighborhood. Why not. It's gonna benefit you in

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<v Speaker 1>the long run anyway, it's gonna benefit were you speaking

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<v Speaker 1>what Nipsey did. That's what Nipsey was trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He was trying to appreciate he was doing that. But

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<v Speaker 1>all he had in there, well, I'm not gonna shoot

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<v Speaker 1>him down. I like what he was doing as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the business and stuff like that. But you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the businesses that he had in that little shopping

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<v Speaker 1>center generated. It's from boots, a boost Folk, a barbershop,

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<v Speaker 1>a tax preparation in a clothing star. Not hard. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a great start, especially for that neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. I like what he did with the business

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<v Speaker 1>class right. Yeah, before you knew it, he would have

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<v Speaker 1>had the gas station. Uh you know, he would have

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<v Speaker 1>probably had the chicken place across the st. Think what

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing was great, don't don't don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>other than Lebron James, as far as somebody we know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know with that schooling and buying people bicycles,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's you know, we we all forget about that

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<v Speaker 1>when he did in his neighborhood what he did, if

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<v Speaker 1>more people can do what like Lebron James and all

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<v Speaker 1>that come back and do things like that, then I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a great start. But we only have Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>them seeing. Yeah, it's not it's not enough of us

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. That's why we need the government to provide resources. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the government ain't gonna give you nothing. Government don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give you nothing. Now that grid, the grid is

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<v Speaker 1>the government. Look at all these on these on these

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<v Speaker 1>black rappers enter Chine. We got If these guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend a few dollars to help the people,

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<v Speaker 1>for us to get back, for for them to get

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<v Speaker 1>on their people, for their kids to be safe. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a life investment. Y'all don't see it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean somebody got to just like what you

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<v Speaker 1>think if I can go out of and spens on

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<v Speaker 1>your CD and you you're you're, you were two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars, what is it gonna go shoot you?

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<v Speaker 1>You spend that in a nightclub making it rain? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Actually, my dad used to say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Every black rich entertainer can solve have these problems if

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<v Speaker 1>they put their money to it, but they never do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk I remember saying something, well, Dr Dre, I

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<v Speaker 1>know he did, and that was with Jimmy Ivan to

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<v Speaker 1>usc okay Um. But he was supposed to build arts,

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<v Speaker 1>uh or something like that. How's that project going? You

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about that? He gave like fire to me

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<v Speaker 1>And I was in the city of Compton to build

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<v Speaker 1>what are you supposed to had like arts? Like like

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<v Speaker 1>I think Redondo Beach has that arts center or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Dre supports the Compton Airport and the school

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<v Speaker 1>they got their teaching black people had to fly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the most amazing airports I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's teaching like ten year old black people to fly planes?

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm saying people are doing that. We probably

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't really heard them. But maybe we need to

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<v Speaker 1>make people more accountable and doing things like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>program indirectly helps the bigger problem, but we need programs

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<v Speaker 1>to directly work on the gang problem. Like that will

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<v Speaker 1>help kids, that will inspire kids to become pla years.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't lost everybody. I never you have. As a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few that's going to come out and gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great, successful people. But as a whole, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we don't lost. But my thing is, let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to these five year old ten year olds and let's

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<v Speaker 1>do something with them that's that's not to see then

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<v Speaker 1>and now to doing the right things for the programs

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<v Speaker 1>that you're speaking. And that's why I went back to

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<v Speaker 1>the parking recreation and you know the baseball diamonds and

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<v Speaker 1>the good coaching and uh and and the sports stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that I you know, I live out in Corona and

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<v Speaker 1>and and you see the baseball diamonds and stuff they

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<v Speaker 1>have out here. I know they built one that come

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<v Speaker 1>to college that's supposed to be nice and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>we need more of them out there. We were I

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Dodgers, the Dodgers right now, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what many African America, well, I don't like to use

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<v Speaker 1>the word African Black Americans that's on the all sanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dodgers right now. Very few. That means very

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<v Speaker 1>that's just baseball but zero. Yeah, but Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a whole lot of black folks anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just because we're not out there. Who's coaching though?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do we know that's out here that that's took

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<v Speaker 1>the time With the year Little League took a decline

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<v Speaker 1>after the riots of two because what they started putting

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<v Speaker 1>the resources into law enforcement and took them away from

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<v Speaker 1>the parking wreck. So I think all those programs are important,

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<v Speaker 1>but we need to directly deal with the gangs. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? You suggest that what we gotta we

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<v Speaker 1>have what's called intervention and prevention. Right, So what James

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about with his nephew, that's intervention because they

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about with the five year old

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty that's prevention. So it's a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>we just throw those two words together like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, but it's not. So we need separate prevention programs.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we need that direct intervention. That's when we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the sixteen seventeen. Say, well, we got training

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, but do they let you under

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<v Speaker 1>training schools without a g D or they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a real school. It could be just a

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<v Speaker 1>program that's set up in the community that teaches sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen year olds how to use a video camera,

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<v Speaker 1>how to edit film and video. And you might get

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<v Speaker 1>one of these kids that's the worst out there. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, wow, this is amazing. I want to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to use this camera and I can shoot my

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<v Speaker 1>own videos. Oh, I can edit my own videos, and

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<v Speaker 1>he might just start being inspired by this little program.

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<v Speaker 1>But that requires money. It's easy to say because just

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<v Speaker 1>like your wife was saying, you teach them young. You

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<v Speaker 1>get them when they four and five years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>you teach them this ain't away. That's the prevention, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the good thing about it. But then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the other my nephews them, so you got you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have somewhere for them to go. You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying for this, Okay, but behind much teaching something, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we learn something a different I ain't. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>learned nothing myself. But what I taught myself. I taught

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<v Speaker 1>myself how to fix breaks just looking at my grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And then okay, I had a knack at it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the solutions for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these the ones that you've already gave up on. Um

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<v Speaker 1>teaching them skills, not through g D or traditional education ways,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of these kids aren't prepared for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but teaching them maybe mechanic having a mechanic spot in

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<v Speaker 1>in Compton, imagine if you had a mechanic school in

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<v Speaker 1>Compton to teach teenagers, how many of those kids off

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<v Speaker 1>the street would actually go to that? A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them would. And they have buildings over there, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had over the old Edison building on bullets role. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So with that, all it takes is people like like

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<v Speaker 1>a game that's say he's with it or people with money.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you put back in your community, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>it's going somewhere right instead of blowing it. So you

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<v Speaker 1>get them or whomever, and they invest their money, they

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<v Speaker 1>invest in this building. You get maybe eight teachers start

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<v Speaker 1>off with five to teach these different skills, breaks, water

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<v Speaker 1>pumps or whatever. Once that get going, you can explain,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can you can expand. It ain't like he

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<v Speaker 1>losing money, because he's getting taxes off of it. Here

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<v Speaker 1>doing you're not losing. You're not losing. So opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about it, let's be about it, because if

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<v Speaker 1>I had the money, it wouldn't be no question. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>find a building. Let's find somebody that that we can

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<v Speaker 1>put in here that we know ain't gonna run off

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<v Speaker 1>with it or you know, and mess stuff up. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get people in here to handle this type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>How that's great. I mean, on on on the Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>Waters Project over on Central you have things like that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want, we don't understand, but that's what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>What we want to teach our own How how can

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<v Speaker 1>you said you want the game members to teach it?

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<v Speaker 1>Who you want to teach? Know you you got some cash,

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<v Speaker 1>this more too, but you know you gotta be certified

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<v Speaker 1>to teach. My point is is programs out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>we still have the game problem, and we still have

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<v Speaker 1>the problem that I don't think it's enough programs, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think it's And I think they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be spread out throughout the entire city county because because

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<v Speaker 1>I know where I grew up at Man, there's literally

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing around there like programs or educational programs or

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing we got is l a trade tech college.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course you gotta be on that traditional education

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<v Speaker 1>path to go. You know, most of our our youngsters

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<v Speaker 1>are they don't know how to read them write at

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<v Speaker 1>that level, but they can go there and learn water

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<v Speaker 1>pumps or or transmission or rebuilding an engine. Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>can learn those those skills so that you can start

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<v Speaker 1>your own business. And I don't think I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not for that MICUs being on the corner. You

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<v Speaker 1>move them out and you got that corner, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>black owned everything. No everything, we're doing the hood. We

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<v Speaker 1>go and give our money to everybody else. Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>we get a job at MICUs? Why I get a

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<v Speaker 1>job at minus and you can own your own This

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<v Speaker 1>is helping us instead of making everybody else rich, we

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<v Speaker 1>can help ourselves. Well. I want to believe it's programs

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but like I said, it's not enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we just have to research them and get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would just like to. I think also another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we feel that you know, we've lost them,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to believe that and teach them that there

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<v Speaker 1>is redemption. I mean, I remember when I was in school,

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<v Speaker 1>eighth grade, ninth grade. I mean I was failing and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that there was no one there for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So all I did was just kept digging a deeper hole,

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<v Speaker 1>digging a deeper hole until someone was there to help me.

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<v Speaker 1>But teaching them redemption, knowing that redemption isn't just about

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<v Speaker 1>going to prison and coming back and changing, but redemption

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<v Speaker 1>is now fifteen fourteen, Oh you're not doing so well,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's okay, you can change, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the resources out there. There are so many

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<v Speaker 1>resources out there, there are probably on every corner. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's once again, it goes back to the family structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's teaching me this, Who's telling me that there are

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<v Speaker 1>the resources out there? I mean, for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to call I have to hear from another parent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's this happening, there's that happening. So I

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<v Speaker 1>get on it. But who's getting on it for them?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's they're advocating for them? Right? Also, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the police support all these programs anyways, because when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the way these budgets get allocated for prevention, intervention,

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<v Speaker 1>and suppression, where all the money go suppression and little

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<v Speaker 1>bits of pieces get sprinkled into the intervention prevention program.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we need less suppression. I know your

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<v Speaker 1>most police will say, no, we need suppression because we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta fight crime out there, right, But I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>too much suppression. I agree with it. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>what most of your city budgets are going into, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>into law enforcement and fire, law enforcement, fired budgets of

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<v Speaker 1>the city budget is allocated for the law enforcement and detment.

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<v Speaker 1>That has to change at some at some level, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's the City of Los Angeles or the county or

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<v Speaker 1>some of these other municipalities. Chief need to speak up,

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<v Speaker 1>but no one wants to take less money when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to law enforcement. For example, I used to hear

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor via Reghost, the former mayor of l A would

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<v Speaker 1>speak locally about crime is low, our gang problem is low,

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<v Speaker 1>We're at a thirty year low. But then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington, d c. And tell him how it's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how bad it is. So why does he do

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<v Speaker 1>that Because he's trying to get those federal dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>all and it's all about how you write the report.

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<v Speaker 1>They start telling well, if technically you break in the

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<v Speaker 1>car is an auto burgery? Are are? But no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>petty down, you know, so you keep it low. They

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<v Speaker 1>teach you how to write right reports down. If you

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<v Speaker 1>arrest somebody, you you you're book for auto burglary. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you just go out and follow up a Polarte

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<v Speaker 1>reporter that thing, then you're just making a petty down.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the game that they played with the

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<v Speaker 1>that's a cold game the game that they play, playing

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<v Speaker 1>that that that city government is playing, you know, manipulating

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<v Speaker 1>those stats. In fact, there was expose and l a

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<v Speaker 1>times a couple of years about Charlie Beck, the former

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<v Speaker 1>chief of l ap D manipulating those prime statistics. They

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<v Speaker 1>played with the stat They play with the stats. If

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody, uh, if you kept somebody and they got shot,

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<v Speaker 1>its attempted murder is just try to get that an

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<v Speaker 1>assault salt battery, but if not at least you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this assault with daily weapon where they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>play with those games. They play those it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>what if you get somebody in custody or you think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to uh you have a good leads

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<v Speaker 1>where you can make an arrest and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>put them up to those those high categories. So they

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<v Speaker 1>play with the statistics, they manipulate the data. They go

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<v Speaker 1>to Watchington d C get federal funding and then they

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<v Speaker 1>allocate majority of that money towards suppression and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really promoting the intervention prevention programs that would actually help

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<v Speaker 1>the city. I mean, that's it in a nutshell right

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<v Speaker 1>there period period. So I mean all of that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just how do we help ourselves now? We need a solution.

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<v Speaker 1>The city needed solution, Our people need a solution. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm saying. So somebody gotta figure it out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because everything that they these guys are doing now it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be for nothing. You're gonna run into a dad

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<v Speaker 1>war dad in and then what what what happens after that?

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<v Speaker 1>You go right back to doing what we're doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>are we know? Okay, let me let me throw this

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<v Speaker 1>at you. Uh, explain to them what the grid officers

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<v Speaker 1>do and would you want to be that officer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not offer the gang enforcement officer. I mean they're out

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<v Speaker 1>there patrolling. They're jumping out, filling out that five cards,

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<v Speaker 1>patting people down out the grid. The Grid guys UM

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<v Speaker 1>and those guys are on there. UM they get alerts

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<v Speaker 1>whenever there's a shooting or homicide. They go out to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene to try to do crowd control, talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the family. They're like counselors. Um. They talked to the

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<v Speaker 1>other side if if they know it's Gang A versus

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<v Speaker 1>Gang B. The Grid guy from Gang A is talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the Great Guy and Gang BY and then they

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<v Speaker 1>meet up at two o'clock in the morning because the

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<v Speaker 1>homicide just happened. So, I mean, it's a tough job.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some good ship though, That's what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>how many. But that's a government that's a government sponsored job.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually but would you be willing to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. See that looks like let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>James got to say. Yeah, yeah, I would do it

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, just like now, let's make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I want, a difference. I want

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<v Speaker 1>my my kids, my grandkids, and my great grades to

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<v Speaker 1>see Grandpa doing something totally different that's gonna make them

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<v Speaker 1>want to do different and be different. So yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>doors is open for I've always wanted to have a

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<v Speaker 1>building where I can have kids and talk and talk

1:18:52.320 --> 1:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to kids. I've talked to talk about what we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do for kids. But then the were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>because eighteen and you know that that that group of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen eighteen, some people can't handle seeing their homeboy down

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<v Speaker 1>there on that ground dead. I didn't had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them die in my arms, so I know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like. And you know, I know your story probably

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<v Speaker 1>so I know what it's about. I haven't been on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides. I haven't been on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the good. I've been shot both times. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>what it feel like. I know where to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>squeezing the trigger. You know what I'm saying. So you

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<v Speaker 1>you're excited on both sides. But how did you make it?

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<v Speaker 1>Make just you just don't want people to go through

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't went through. You wish they can learn

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<v Speaker 1>from your examples. And yeah, I know what especially people

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<v Speaker 1>is helping and and and by saying my difference helping

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<v Speaker 1>is starting with with family and then then doing this

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<v Speaker 1>So I can do this all day. I can do

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Oh no, we don't. We're all in a

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<v Speaker 1>half and now I'm talking about the show. But get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and chalk and and and and walk with

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<v Speaker 1>keys and chalk all day. So yeah, I would do it. Yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>well ganks the chronicles, um Man, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a section that can go on for for hours. Um

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<v Speaker 1>but we know y'all won't tune in that long, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go ahead and end it here. Man, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>was a pleasure man speaking with you and all of

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<v Speaker 1>your knowledge, um Man, appreciate you to me. I'll make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're gonna check out his YouTube channel, street TV

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<v Speaker 1>street tv on on YouTube x X. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>called what I want to say? Uh, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>got street Gangs dot Com. You can go check that

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<v Speaker 1>out too. Exactly exactly man. So you'll be here from

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<v Speaker 1>Alex a lot. Uh, very knowledgeable brother, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>James once again, Happy birthday brother. And we don't say

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<v Speaker 1>Easter anymore. We say Resurrection Sunday. And did I say

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<v Speaker 1>it right? Probably not, But anyway, you'll have a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>And episode three of aaginst the Chronicles piece up as

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a Digital Soapbox Network production