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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode number three of the Gates

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles with Reggie Right, James McDonald, and Alex Alonso

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Speaker 1: from Street TV. Alright, appreciate you coming in with us

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Speaker 1: and hanging out. I guess I hope you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a regular guest over here. But we'll see what we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Well, cool, cool, cool, So tonight episode

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Speaker 1: we're gonna deal with we's something, um that you know

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Speaker 1: we're all about and what what you know, you know

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Speaker 1: my backgrounds and law enforcement and the police. And then

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Speaker 1: James Mob James, you know, you know where he's from.

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I want to give James a shout out.

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Speaker 1: Today is his birthday. I appreciate you coming in for

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Speaker 1: and um spending some time with us on his birthday

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Speaker 1: and because you could have shook us no no, no business.

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Speaker 1: First exactly exactly. And then man, a very very special

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Speaker 1: guest on, Mr Alex Alonzo from Street st TV st TV.

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Speaker 1: You see, I'm know that that oh you know what

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Speaker 1: you used to call it, well, it used to be

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Speaker 1: street gangs. But I had to, uh, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: introduce my platform to a larger audience, so I kind

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Speaker 1: of sanitized the name. I went from street gangs to

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Speaker 1: street TV. Can you get any bigger? Man? Because you'd

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Speaker 1: be having some good some good episodes. And there's always

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Speaker 1: room for growth, man, there's always um, you know, new

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Speaker 1: things to do, and technology is constantly changing and the

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Speaker 1: Internet is growing and social media is growing. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going as big as we can get. Well, cool, cool,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your working on I guess well. I can see

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of respect out there because of

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Speaker 1: the different neighborhoods you'd be going into. Some people say

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Speaker 1: I got a hood pass to every hood, but it

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Speaker 1: ain't really like that. It's just you. You you can

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Speaker 1: walk in, you got to camp. Hey, I could actually

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Speaker 1: tell you there's a couple of hoods where I'm actually

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Speaker 1: not allowed to go in, like for real, for real.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into those specifically, but you

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Speaker 1: know there are some people that they push against what

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Speaker 1: I'm doing, and you know, I got to navigate through

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Speaker 1: that from that. Looking at it, you could be a

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Speaker 1: police type of ship not knowing you, or you could

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Speaker 1: be undercover or not. It ain't even on none of that.

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Speaker 1: It's about they want to document themselves and they want

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Speaker 1: to control how they're depicted. And even though I have

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Speaker 1: a huge platform and I want to give people in

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Speaker 1: these neighborhoods an opportunity, they feel like we'll do it ourselves.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I respect it, and I go where

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Speaker 1: I'm welcomed basically, but most places I'm welcomed down. Very

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Speaker 1: few problems, um, very few issues. And I love what

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Speaker 1: I do. Cool. Cool. Uh see you want to New York? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where are you from? Originally? I was actually born in

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Speaker 1: New York, but I came to l A at the

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Speaker 1: age of eleven and pretty much been here ever since.

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Speaker 1: I came here in the early eighties, and I grew

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Speaker 1: up in the West Adams area. Yeah, and I hit

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Speaker 1: I hit l A right when it's just in the

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Speaker 1: So I saw all the eighties. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: where are you from? From? In the last ten years?

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Speaker 1: So you you gotta wear l A had now, Well

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Speaker 1: I switched up to me when when you see me

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Speaker 1: with different hats on, it's really part of my uniform

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Speaker 1: and it's not representing what the logo is. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: well we'll get into the show because you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of knowledge, and you know, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: want to touch you on you got anything or any

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Speaker 1: Nipsey stories, you know what. I actually met Nipsey back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand seven for the first time. I was

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Speaker 1: working on a TV show. I was working on a

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Speaker 1: I eventually got seventeen people to to shoot for the show,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted Nipsey to be one of those and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't able to get them at the time. For

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a whole another story. But then maybe

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Speaker 1: a year later they hit me up. His people hit

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Speaker 1: me up and said, hey, you still want to do

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Speaker 1: remember telling someone in two thousand eight or nine, this

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Speaker 1: guy's gonna blow up. I said, this guy is really

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Speaker 1: blow up. I'm like not. This dude has he has

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Speaker 1: the look, he has the swag. He comes from one

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Speaker 1: that huge backing, and he's got talent. And he choked

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Speaker 1: like he got an old soul. He does like he

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Speaker 1: been there when slow some boys first came out the

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Speaker 1: way they used to talk back in the days. That's

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Speaker 1: how I was watching this looking at his interviews, and

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Speaker 1: he talked like he'd been here before. You wouldn't. You

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say he was thirty three years old. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying like like how Tupac talk. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think he was smarter than Tupac. Actually, well he's

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Speaker 1: eight years older, that's true. Yeah, that's a good You

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Speaker 1: can't compare year old and expence is totally different from Tupax.

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Speaker 1: But you could look at Nipsey when he was twenty three,

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Speaker 1: even all of that, Tupac was pretty much the leader

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Speaker 1: And that's a big difference. Yeah. But also Tupac come

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old talking about I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 1: it comes to knowledge and intellect. But I'm confident in

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Speaker 1: that twenty five year old nip was just slightly sharper

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Speaker 1: really one, how do you feel about Nipsey working with

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Speaker 1: what would have happened that Monday. But he was one

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Speaker 1: close to you know, the gangs, trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: cease firing the whole nine. How you feel about it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you work with a lot of gang members

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Speaker 1: and and some game members might say they're not with it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody say they with it like the ones they are.

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Speaker 1: So we already got over two dozen former slasherformance. They

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Speaker 1: call them informants. We got raping money. They the real

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Speaker 1: I know about six or seven GRID workers and they're

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Speaker 1: all solid. They got them in the Jungles, they got

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Speaker 1: forties crib. So there are some really good, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: respectable guys that work with grid, work with the city,

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Speaker 1: and they're forced to work with law enforces. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of there's a lot of gang

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Speaker 1: bangers junctions out there that don't know nothing about grid

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that they've never heard of.

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Speaker 1: But it's not about telling the police information about the gang.

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Speaker 1: And I think that might be a misconception that grid

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Speaker 1: workers are not there to inform on other gang members.

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Speaker 1: There there as like a liaison between the streets and

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Speaker 1: law enforcement to say, hey, you know, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: talk to the youngsters, and I said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give them some information. Then you you tell the police, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I spoke to those guys and they're gonna be quiet.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's not about like giving names and providing information.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that grid workers do that. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard of grid workers like I haven't heard of any

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Speaker 1: cases either. Let me just clarify that and clarify that.

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Speaker 1: But I know that's what people that's from the outside,

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Speaker 1: to have witnessed this when you was a told stories

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00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: plenty of times where we I had a cop in

428
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: the car with me, tell me which they dropped a

429
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: bomb on the city or Compton. And I had to

430
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: remind this, two of my grandparents still live in this city.

431
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: Where are you talking about? I think those are cops

432
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: that James was talking about. When those cops exist, then

433
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: progress is gonna be so minimal. I truly believe that

434
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: that in the situation like this, you extra police out.

435
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: You do not use the police at this point because

436
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: it's still fresh, everybody is still trying to get on

437
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: the same page and you don't need anything that. I

438
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: just think the problem is and looking for me outside

439
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: because I've never been a game memorial. You know one

440
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: you know professed to be one is that? But I

441
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: know about him is that when one guy is calling

442
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: for the truth or stuthing like that, then the other

443
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: games feel like this dude think he has too much

444
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: power in the city, and jealousy happens. That's what happens,

445
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: and that's where the problem called. This young man is

446
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: in jail now with that that got shot with um

447
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: with Nipsey. Why do you all really believe that he's

448
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: in jail? They got him more provo violation. Why do

449
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: you think they got him in there because he refused

450
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: to talk and won't tell him anything, so they're gonna

451
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: late and he's actually victim. And oh, I totally disagree

452
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: with this this arrest, but I'm just trying to explode

453
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: explain to people why why is the custody and we're

454
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: talking about I think cousin Carey, I mean, because you

455
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: don't want to talk. I just man, yeah, Cousin carry Yeah,

456
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: I mean, can you honestly say if if if I

457
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: think it's great, and then I just won't give a

458
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: shout out to it right quick while I'm thinking about it,

459
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: free Cousin Carry Many lad TV is doing uh uh

460
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: something on his page where he's uh they're doing uh

461
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: a go fund page where At last I checked, it

462
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: was up to about sixteen and seventeen dollars for his

463
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: legal fund. If anybody can go and support that, it

464
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: would be greatly appreciate it. Here's another problem I have.

465
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: If you really want to know what a gang cop thinks,

466
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: go watch a trial. I work in a lot. I

467
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: get a lot, right, So I listened to these every week.

468
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Listen to an l ap D gang cop that's about

469
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: to thirty years old testify. Most of us never even

470
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: get to watch these cases, but I work closely with them,

471
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: and the stuff they say, understand is absolutely ridiculous. Some

472
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: of the craziest stuff they say. Of course, their agenda

473
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: is I want to get a conviction. I need to

474
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: help this prosecutor convict this guy. So they'll go on

475
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: to stand and say almost anything, and maybe one day

476
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: we can have a topic. We're all bringing some transcripts

477
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: and we'll read some of the testimony that these l

478
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: A p D officers and um l A County sheriff's

479
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: deputies say in court. But then I will meet their

480
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: bosses at a ceasefire meeting at a church, and they're

481
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: saying something completely opposite. You know, So this this divide

482
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: again within the culture of police. That to me, I

483
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: can't trust it completely because the bosses are letting these

484
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: young cops kind of do their thing at the same time,

485
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: and they also have a code, Am I right that

486
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: we protected on regardless of well, I'm that's pretty much

487
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: going out the one to I mean, the cops investigated

488
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: each other and they turned each other in, and so

489
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: it's not going on going on like we think where

490
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: that blue wall or that blue light the blue line is.

491
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: It's not, it's it's you know, no social media and

492
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot has has helped uh um, you know, tears

493
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: stuff like that down. So I'm just not one for it.

494
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: I just don't believe that. I know it's dirty cops.

495
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: I know it's a percentage that is out there that's dirty,

496
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: But I'm not one that's gonna say it's the massive

497
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: is dirty. Are are against the system? In the game

498
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: day man, I wanted to work so bad because I

499
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: was challenged still that I have a nephew out there.

500
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: I want to be bad, wanna be this, wanna be that.

501
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring him to the show so he

502
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: can see different things. Uh. I think it's important that

503
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm many nephews you got. We all got nephews. We

504
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: all got brothers. I got Timmy got how many kids? Kids?

505
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: And the majority of them is boys, and they all

506
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: they all repping the neighborhood. How do I save them?

507
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because everybody want to get

508
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: out here in the streets and and click together. If

509
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: each and every man that's that represented gang just stopped

510
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: and got his nephews, his little cousins out of the gang,

511
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: it is shrink so so fast, and it'll be easier

512
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: to maintain what you have now. But and doing that,

513
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: they got him in there. They're watching them die. They're

514
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: watching them die. I don't want to see my nephews.

515
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: I got a lot of them up there die. I

516
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: got one. He's sixteen years old. Uh, everybody ain't meant

517
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: to be a father. I'm gonna say that. Um, he's

518
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: running the streets, sleeping in cars and ship My sister

519
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: tried to get him out in Fontana, nice home. He

520
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: don't want to be there. He want to be from

521
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: the hood, you know what I'm saying. He wanted he

522
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: wanted to to go to the nipty hustle thing at

523
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: the State Well you don't even got a car, how

524
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: are you gonna get there? So he got his other

525
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: cousins and and he finds his way there, and you're

526
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: speaking to him as an og, a big old g

527
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's not listening because you know, we always said,

528
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: well the OG's gotta make him listen. The youngsters is

529
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: not that sixteen year old black man I said it before,

530
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: is the most dangerous guy in America or a person

531
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: in America according to some people, because they don't care,

532
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: they don't have anything to lose, and all of that.

533
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: So my point to all of that is where, you know,

534
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: how do we combat at that. He needs an opportunity,

535
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: He has an economic opportunity. He needs an employment opportunity

536
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: where he sees a future right now, he doesn't see

537
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: a future from that. But they're not going to do

538
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: the jobs that his his uh, his education and all

539
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: of that that's going to allow him to get. Because

540
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: you can go get a job at McDonald's. You can

541
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: go get that job. But he's not gonna do that.

542
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: So what job? What economic he can he can get

543
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: some training electric electrician um. He hasn't finished high schools

544
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: sixteen and he don't he's not even finishing in high school. Yet.

545
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: When I went to junior high school, they had mechanics.

546
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: You learned all that. They don't got that in schools,

547
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: no more, none of that where you can work on cars.

548
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: You're good with your hands. He's good with his hands.

549
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Now you're getting tattoos on his hands because he ain't

550
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: got nothing to do. And then the police tell you

551
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: can't chastise him because UH is abuse. So how do

552
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I take my son and embrace my son who whipping

553
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: his ass to keep him alive? You can tell me,

554
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Come and tell me. I need to know, because I got,

555
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I got so much. We might have a female perspective

556
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: here on what to do well. I am an early

557
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: education UH teacher from at USC, and you definitely have

558
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: to start them young. Apparently he didn't have that experience,

559
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, from you know, from the beginning. It has

560
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: to give them experience. And when I used to go

561
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: out with Alex and doing these interviews with all these

562
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: other gang members, the number one thing, and Alex used

563
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: to ask them, you know, why what's going on? Why

564
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: are you in the gang? Basically, Oh, I grew up

565
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: with my grandma. I didn't know I didn't know there

566
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: was anything else, and that sticks with me to this day.

567
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: We have three children, teenagers, and it sticks with me.

568
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You mean, you didn't know there was

569
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: a beach out there. You didn't know there was smc

570
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: out there. You didn't know there was a junior college. No,

571
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. So it's your job, if you want

572
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: to make a difference, is to just take them. Just

573
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: take them, give him the opportunities, Just take him, show

574
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: him something that he does not know. Maybe one day

575
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: it'll click. You might take a year. Just keep going.

576
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Just you can't give up. You just gotta keep going,

577
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Just keep going. Yeah, I think the main thing, like

578
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: she said, you gotta start young. He's sixteen, so you

579
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: know it's just not him. This is this is where

580
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: well I'm saying, that's gonna stop the gang the gang ship.

581
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: This is where everything ties in together, you know, the

582
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: big homies. Get your nephews out of the games, get

583
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: your sons out of the games, and and show him

584
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: something different. Let's save our own, you know, let's stop

585
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: blaming other people and asking other people to help us.

586
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: We can we can do that ourselves. So I'm trying

587
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: to my sons went to college. My son James Jr.

588
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: And my youngest son, Jayden, they went to college. My

589
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: baby boy went to Texas A and m my oldest

590
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: son went to college. Raising his daughter since she was born.

591
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: They went out to hospital by herself. She's eleven years old,

592
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: so mind understand. But it's Tremney and all of them.

593
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: These are my nephews. So looking at what's going on now.

594
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: A long time ago, I didn't care. I didn't care

595
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: about life period and didn't I didn't care how we

596
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: got down. Let's just do what we do. This is

597
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: part of the game. So being on the other side

598
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: of the fence and and seeing my nephews and seeing

599
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: my best friends getting gunned down for nothing, it's like wow.

600
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: But I can't sit here and be a hypocrite because

601
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I participated and the same thing I'm trying to stop

602
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: right now, you feel me? So how do I just

603
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: slide by in the shadows? How do I cut this corner?

604
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: How do I do this? It's playing simple. I am

605
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: who I am. I did what I did. I regret

606
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: what I did, So let me pay it forward. Let

607
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: me start by helping my nephews. Because everybody got a

608
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: nephew or a cousin that's doing something stupid. Well, I

609
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: think you just got to plant the seed. I'll tell

610
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: you what. I used to work at at Culver City

611
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: High School and my job was to counsel the gang

612
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: members there, and I felt like none of these kids

613
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: were listening to me. None of them paid attention to

614
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: what I said. They were just forced to sit there

615
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: for an hour to talk to me once a week.

616
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: And then years later, after that program was done, Uh,

617
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: a UPS driver knocks on my office door to bring

618
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: me a package. And it was one of those kids

619
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: that I had counseled years before, and he told me

620
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: that I had an impact on his life. It didn't

621
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: it didn't materialize then, it didn't happen right then and there,

622
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: but he just remembered things that I would say to

623
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: him every week, and however it happened years later. He

624
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: went up getting a job and started working for UPS

625
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: and figured it out. So all I would say is

626
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: just just keep on planting the seed and one day

627
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: the light bulb will go off in the guy's head

628
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you said that. I got a guy

629
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: on my my message hit me through messenger and he

630
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: was just talking to me the other day. His name

631
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Lee. I want to give a shout out to

632
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Lee. He be that she expects. I mean, you

633
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: know what is and he just he just telled me

634
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: thank you all the time. Man. I literally just show up. Man,

635
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to say whoop the whoop, this and that,

636
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: and that makes me feel good like I'm okay, I'm

637
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: doing something right. You know what I'm saying. So shouts

638
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: out to him. Man, I'm keep doing what I'm doing.

639
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: And I don't want to go out here and just

640
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: grab some cat off the street and say, man I,

641
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: but this truth thing gonna work, is gonna no. Let

642
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: me start with my nephews, you know what I'm saying,

643
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: because they're in the thick of it. They're in the

644
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: thick of it, and and and the scary thing is,

645
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: I got so many of them trying to game bang

646
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: but don't even know how to game bang. Don't walk

647
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: with your head down. Uh. One of them ain't gonna

648
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: say no names, and they probably you're trying to figure

649
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: this out after they hear this. I don't even know

650
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: how to say Paul Roue and just you're gonna lose

651
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: like that. They don't hear it. So I just got

652
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: to find another way to teach him. And and and

653
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm just running short and and my patience is like

654
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: real thin because I think I'm losing and I don't

655
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: want to do that. So here he is. I got

656
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: my nephew and I told him I'm gonna bring him

657
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: to the show. And this is what I'm gonna do.

658
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I want you to see and meet people that's doing things,

659
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: that's trying to save lives like yours. He ran away.

660
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Now my sister been taking care of him for two

661
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: years and and he runs away. He's on Instagram doing

662
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about things you would never think a kid

663
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: like that would be doing the saying. So I came breaking.

664
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: I came breaking, like like really like breaking, because that's jail.

665
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything you really could do except

666
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: just continue to plant the see, continue to be encouraging,

667
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: and hopefully one day something will hit. But I also

668
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: think that in terms of the truth, um Compton, the

669
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: East Side, Watts, other parts of l A really weren't

670
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: impacted by this. This is more like a West Side

671
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: crypt But and I say that because I think all

672
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: these parts of l A. L A so huge, just

673
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: like the second largest city geographically, So there's gotta be

674
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: a Compton movement. There's gotta be a long Beach movement.

675
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: What what these brothers did on the west side the

676
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: other day was just the west side. You know, I

677
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: don't on that side saying they don't even know Nipsey.

678
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say this today. It's not about Nipsey.

679
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: It's what those dudes initiated and what they're trying to

680
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: do now. And if we can say one life every

681
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: night for three and sixty five days, you did good.

682
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: That's ain't nobody getting killed. That's and that's Compton, a

683
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: lone beach and all that. So they need to get

684
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: with the program and get on that because it's all

685
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: about us. It's all about and that's what you're saying,

686
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: we got it, And that's the black panther or the

687
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: way they do it. That's worry about ourselves, and you know,

688
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: let's let's let's get ourselves, you know, our neighborhood or

689
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: where we at. And then you know, we can't try

690
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: to do the whole city or of l A and Compton.

691
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: It's too big. So we just gotta do this segment.

692
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: We gotta have people in that segment to do it.

693
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: People in this segment like a pie. It's like a pie.

694
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: It starts in your neighborhood. We don't have to go

695
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: to this meeting to do it. We just sit down

696
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: as the homies and say, man, y'all time. Yeah we tied,

697
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: we ain't going out and we ain't doing nothing. We're

698
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna show our support that way by laying our colors

699
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: and our guns down. You don't have to go to

700
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: no meeting talk to the police. You can just say

701
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: we're good. No activity and everybody know what that means.

702
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: No activities next to no activities, and all these guys

703
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: need to hear that part. No activities. That's how you

704
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: support the West Side. They the sixties movement, that's how

705
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: you support that. But what you guys, I don't know

706
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: if you guys were were, But before that day April five,

707
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: there were two huge meetings, one on April fourth, one

708
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: on April three, with hundreds of people, especially the one

709
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: on April four, hundreds of different crips from different sets

710
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: from around that area. Oh yeah, this is this was

711
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: already was already in place. So then April five came

712
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: and then what happened on April said it was doing

713
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: that under the radar. Then, yeah, so what happened those

714
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: those two days, those two meetings. I think the meetings

715
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: are important. It kind of inspired what we end up

716
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: seeing on April five. You know, it wasn't just That's

717
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: why everybody was so like like quick to join it.

718
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean when I saw them walking down that street,

719
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: I was like, this ain't just happened. Not you're right,

720
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: it just happen. Just can't because and those two meetings,

721
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: those two meetings were like critical and they were revolutionary

722
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: because it brought different sides to the table on those

723
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: two days. And then the fifth is what we all witnessed,

724
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I thought it was beautiful. You no, no, no,

725
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: it was it was let's talk about the rumors because

726
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I know you didn't heard it and and um and

727
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: you you got your ears to the ground. Uh. They

728
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: want to blame it on the police. I've blame it

729
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: on the media. Try to put out there that um

730
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: uh you know the shooting after the incident, I was there. Yeah, yeah,

731
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: because you talk about those that was those related to

732
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: the you're talking about when they were at the memorial

733
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: that would have been on I think that was April one,

734
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: about two days after Nipsey was killed. There was a

735
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: big trampling that one. And then I also you're talking

736
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: about the shooting, the one and the one in Nickerson

737
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: Guards correct. Yeah, uh, you can say were they related

738
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: or not. I don't think they were because at the distance.

739
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't believe both of those shootings were

740
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: related to all that was both on the east Side

741
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: was in Watts and people don't know, you know, because

742
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: we got a big broad audience how far away. That

743
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: is the thing is why some people might say it

744
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: was related. Because Nipsey's procession went through Watts. It actually

745
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: went to Century and Maine, and I'm not sure someone

746
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: happened three or four hours later. Yeah, that's what I'm

747
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna say. I'm not sure how much time had passed

748
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: after the procession had passed the Century and Maine. It

749
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: also did go to Watch, but I don't I don't know.

750
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: I just think that there's some East Side stuff going on.

751
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: And also before Nipsey was killed, there was a there

752
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: was a spike in crime going on in March early March.

753
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: You know, all of March saw a spike from January

754
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: and February, so we might be in some sort of

755
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: trend now, an upward trend of violence in Los Angeles summertime.

756
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Summertime it always happened like that every year. Yeah time

757
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: when schools get out, I always recognized and when at

758
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: the end of the school that's when the youngster started

759
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: a few shootings in March, and it might have something

760
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: to do it. I think it's just too early to say.

761
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the the hundred and third

762
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: and Main shooting except that it was an older guy.

763
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: And the guy that got killed in the Nicholson Gardens,

764
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: he was a well known guy over there, so I

765
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: don't think it was related to Nipsey's funeral. Well, I

766
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to get that cleared up if you we

767
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: had the information. The media was on that. The media,

768
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to make a big thing. Oh this happened

769
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: after that, And I was like, well, do you believe

770
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: that that boy said that he was paid to do

771
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: what he did? Come on, we ain't gonna talk about

772
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, man, don't that's stupid people that's on the

773
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: internet to make that severing The attorney wouldn't even bring

774
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that up. That wouldn't even come out attorney quick he

775
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: gotta got so. Yeah, he jumped on that, you know,

776
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: for publicity and all of that. So that's fine. He

777
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: wasn't even quite a pointed. I thought he might have

778
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: been quite a point but I found out he's not

779
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: even in the quarter pointed pool. No, he's not a

780
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: he's not a Barkin attorney private private, that's that's Uh.

781
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm cloud chastein and needs. I'll do this for free.

782
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: But we don't know. We don't know if he's getting

783
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: nobody paying for who's gonna pay for? Uh, we don't

784
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: know the economic status of his family. Good point. And

785
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I think it's too early to say that Christopher Darden

786
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: is doing this pro bono. I believe so, but good point.

787
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Time will tell you. I believe Chris Darden is getting paid. Yeah,

788
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: two three hund knowledge. There's a little deafenety case. Uh

789
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: definitely hasn't been filed, but it's going to be. So

790
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: if it is, then it might see a new attorney.

791
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: You know, attorney has changed all the time, many times.

792
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: It should go through. He had no money countrue everybody, Yeah,

793
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't man, that's why he was there, and that

794
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: that's why he's in the position that he was in.

795
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: If this case goes to trial, we can't even assume

796
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: that Christopher Darden is gonna be the defense attorney through

797
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: this entire process. This trial is not gonna happen for

798
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: a year or two if it goes to trial. So

799
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: but I don't believe that any of those what's gonna

800
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: go to trial because he's gonna try to play the insanity,

801
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: uh that since who'll get down he was crazy and

802
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: not the government. That's people out there they want to have,

803
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Tupac still allie that that's that's those

804
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: type of people that's that's put that stuff out. I

805
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: think for the city though, it would be good to

806
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: just give this guy a deal and just jump on it,

807
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: because you know, it's it's very traumatic for the family

808
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: to sit there in the trial. I've seen it so

809
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: many times, you know, to see his family and his

810
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: kids have to be dealing with this all over and

811
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I truly don't believe it's don't go nowhere. I think

812
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: he's going something's gonna happen in jail. I don't think

813
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: power untouched. You think that the share out at that level, James,

814
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: the sheriff are gonna let this guy get killed on

815
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: their watch. This is too high profile. They can't even

816
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: move in out of the sale without video camera. Yeah,

817
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: we're talking to a guy that ain't know you know,

818
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: in that high power situation. One time I was I

819
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: was visiting an inmate. That's not a place in jail

820
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: that you can't be. Yeah, but high power you're different.

821
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: I started to believe James. I was visiting an emmy

822
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: in the county jail once in the in the lawyer's area,

823
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: and I actually saw Should come down, which just by coincident,

824
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: he probably had a sergeant. It was like five deputies.

825
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: One was holding the camp. You know how they move

826
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: high power O jail, everything is documented documentary. They have

827
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: a sergeant there. Also. They don't want the liable liability

828
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: of his family sing the heck out of the sheriff

829
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: department of coming out. So I think I think he's

830
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: going to be uh, you know, he's guarded well guarded

831
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: as well. But now you know what's to go to

832
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: the now that it's the same thing when when she

833
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: was going through it. You've seen on Facebook people posting

834
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: he got killed and all that. Ship and conspirators and

835
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: liars are two different things. You went out with the

836
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: government did it. You said he was paid sea Now

837
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: for the government to do it. That's not even something

838
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: that came out of his mouth because because his attorney

839
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't even allow that to happen. Yeah, there's nothing coming

840
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: out of his mouth exactly. Yeah, so cool, so um, yeah,

841
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: we probably have to rename the show still. You know,

842
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: we kind of veered off the first gang. But but

843
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: here's the last thing I'll say on the on the

844
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: whole police first gang relationship. A lot of people might

845
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: not know this, but they are actually documented police gangs,

846
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: most of them in the sheriff to be Vikings. Vikings. Hey,

847
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: Paul Tanaka was the Viking. Yeah, there's the three thousand

848
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Lynn would say, the three thousand boys that was in

849
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: the county jail, the l a county jail that he's

850
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: speaking of, and there's all. There was also the two

851
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: thousand boys. I just learned this from um Karl Douglas

852
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: because he sued a lot of sheriff uh Barl Douglas

853
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: was a guy on the old j Yeah, he was

854
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: on case back at but now he is the most

855
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: successful civil attorney that sues law enforcement. And there's at

856
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: least three more that I don't know the names of.

857
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: So they have them. Yeah, these are actually they have

858
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: that clue and they have they have been tattooed. They

859
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: had an incident, Uh what do you. Guys got into

860
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: a big fight among themselves at a Christmas party behind

861
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: the click. That's how some of it became public because

862
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: one of the deputy decided to sue the other deput

863
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: exactly what's safe to trusted those I would say, these guys,

864
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about ten people out of uh an organization

865
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: of ten thousand. No, we're not going to I would say,

866
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell about the ones that's in the particular gangs,

867
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I would say there's at least a hundred percentages that

868
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: break down. It is very small, but these are these

869
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: guys have lots of power when it comes to police

870
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: and gangs. Though these are the guys on the front

871
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: line police. There's not a lot of gang enforcement officers.

872
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: So the question is what percent of gang enforcements these

873
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: were guys in. They were in county jails, the Linood station,

874
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: they were at a station which is now in the

875
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: central station. I think they even they might was always

876
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: out of the central station. I forget how that went.

877
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: The vikings. What the vikings are The county jail deputies. Eventually,

878
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: every every deputy has to go to county jail first,

879
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: that's their first assignment. Then they get trickled into the

880
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: departments eventually, so that culture gets spread to wherever they go.

881
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: Like like I always said, it's a percentage that are

882
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: bad cops. I'm just saying the percentage is under two

883
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: to three percent. You're doing the percentage of the whole department.

884
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 1: I would say, let's do a percentage of gang cops,

885
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: the ones that actually their responsibility is to investigate gangs.

886
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: What percentage of the old gang cops are actually in

887
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: these gang clicks. That number is definitely higher than any

888
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: of the gang officers been associated the clicks. They've always

889
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: been officers in county gls, are at stations and stuff.

890
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: Not in the crash r d Well Raphael perezidem had

891
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: that skull tattoo, they were gang officers. They were just

892
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: regular patrolments. Well, they were parting as a whole. I'm

893
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: saying they were just boys that hung out the gall

894
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: No I think that. I think Raphael Perez and his

895
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: partner um Nino Darden, I think they were crashed officers,

896
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: the ones that shot. Let me just say, this is

897
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: what they did. One day, they shot a Latino gang

898
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: member named Javio Vondo. Paralyzed them then when it got

899
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: a gun and put it next to him and they

900
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: put a case on him. He got sent to twenty

901
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: three years in prison and he sat there for two

902
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: years until he got exonerated, and he lost his ability

903
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: to walk for the rest of his life. Like I said,

904
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: the l A p D officer did that to Javier Vando.

905
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: We we we we got him in the neighborhood. Now,

906
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: how many cops do you know that coming to hood,

907
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: pull you over and start talking to you and then

908
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: start popping you upside your head? What'd you call? Yeah,

909
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of anything like that. But my point

910
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: to point to, my point to that, my point to

911
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: that is complained. And I know we don't like to

912
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: go on to go and go complain because where the

913
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: departments believe now where they're smoked the fire and what

914
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean by that one time nothing may not happen

915
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: the second time nothing. I'm not mad the third time,

916
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: but you should get three complaints like that. Trust me

917
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: a department. They're going to oversizes out there now where

918
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna something's gonna happen. You our complaints of the

919
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: cop pass, that's what we got. The more you have

920
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: an impact, we don't have it on. If you don't

921
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: have it on on the phones, the camera phones. Now,

922
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: the only way the cops going to get dealt with

923
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: is people got to be educated to complaint in the

924
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: streets and getting pulled over by the police just on

925
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: some route change ship shouldn't happen. They're gonna work your

926
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: They're gonna beat you if you're payings shagging, they go,

927
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: they go. You know what you said, don't happen. I

928
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: see it every day. You know what I've observed lately

929
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: in the last maybe five six years, that there are

930
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: less and less black cops out there. It's mostly Latino

931
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: cops and white cops. Especially Confident is all Latino and

932
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: something white cops. What happened all the what happened is

933
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the one we need more blacks, We need them, but

934
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: they can't pass the background. They came past it because

935
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: they're going to get in trouble. But listen, and the

936
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: ones that do go through the school and all of that,

937
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: you go beat, You're gonna be attorney, You go, you

938
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: get better job. Well, then how does the shriff hiring

939
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Latino cops that have gang backgrounds? They got Latino cops

940
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: as brothers is from like white fence and and I

941
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: get this is because your brother is related. Don't make

942
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: you relate? Does that be like a red flag in

943
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: the hiring process? You get the red flag and they go,

944
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: they go through some hill and you know how many

945
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: backgrounds you know how many Latino sheriff deputies come from

946
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: gang families? How many a black cop would never get

947
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: hired if it came from a black family. Never. But

948
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: they're not getting hired at the same rate that these

949
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: Latinos get high because they're not generally applying and going

950
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: through the process to do it. I mean, be honest,

951
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: only one of the people that actually apply make it

952
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: through the final process. But the problem with what the

953
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: black what black people when we do go through that,

954
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: usually we got a lot more going on ourselves where

955
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: we choose a different profession. That's what generally LPD has

956
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: a very good salary for for they they choose a

957
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: different profession from the Mexicans. How many black do you

958
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: see in Compton? It's a handful. And how many and

959
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: compare that to the last I see more well in

960
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: l A County. In l A County, look at the

961
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: rate of where it is with the Mexican population and

962
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: the whites and the blacks. I think the Mexican's out

963
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: raid in in l A County. Right, Yes, it's only

964
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 1: like black and it's like Latinos. So what you're gonna hire? Moral?

965
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: I just think that um and and a lot of

966
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: black inmates in the county jail complain that there is

967
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: a preferential treatment to the Latino Mexican. And from this

968
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: from the from the cops, from the sheriffs, that the

969
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: police in the county jail. So I'm like, man, where

970
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: are all the black sheriffs? Where all the black officers at?

971
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: Why aren't they getting hired? They don't want them, That's

972
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: not true, they want them. They're just getting wild filtered out.

973
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I see a lot of black cops that are ranked

974
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: high ranking because they moved up, but they've been around

975
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: twenty five three years that they moved a lot of

976
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: high ranking black coples. I don't see them patrolling the neighborhood.

977
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Back in the days Compton was had more. It was like,

978
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: like I just said, because of the hiring process and

979
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: behind the background checking. You know, Um, do you think

980
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: about it? Um, a person to go through college and

981
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: all of that, Where do we see our black do

982
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: we tell them to go go to college to become

983
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: law enforcement officers? I got a cousin named Tony Williams,

984
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: went to college, went to the military, did this, did

985
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: eight years in military, came home and was denied l

986
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: a p D. Why I don't know, but he ain't me.

987
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: He's just smart. But just because he went through it

988
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: don't mean that he didn't have a checker, our spotty path.

989
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: They just kept telling him like, you'll never really know why,

990
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: And they have reasons why they say they get You know,

991
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: I learned. I learned some of the weird questions that

992
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: they ask. Like, for example, they'll ask you a question

993
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: if you pull your mother over for speed, but you

994
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: pull over, you pull someone over for a speeding ticket,

995
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: you find out that's your mother. The question is do

996
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: you give your mother that ticket? What's your answer, James, No,

997
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: that's the answer. They want to hear because if you

998
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: say yes, I will let's say you're a liar and

999
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: boom you. But I think some of these But if

1000
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: you're a new recruit, you're thinking to yourself, I get yes,

1001
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give her the ticket because I want to

1002
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: do the right thing according to the law. Right and

1003
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: and those are called stress tests, and those are generally

1004
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: when you a senior cop have been around already, they

1005
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: act questions like that. The perfect example. And I'll give

1006
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: you one. You gotta fire and you're out there direct

1007
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: and traffic, and then you see and then you while

1008
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: you're out there direct and traffic, you see somebody burger

1009
00:54:54,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: rising a house? What do you do call it? In

1010
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that's what you'reupposed to do. Most people say, I'll run

1011
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: over there and do it. But you you forget life

1012
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: over property. Yeah, and so you out there saying, you know,

1013
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: directing traffic. So you're supposed you're really supposed to be

1014
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: out there, what saving lives or preserving something happening to

1015
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: a life or injury, and now you want to you

1016
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: went away from that for property, so you have, you know,

1017
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: questions like that. But it's a whole bunch of stuff.

1018
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: I really think we need to get a better understanding

1019
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: why a lot of African Americans either are not applying

1020
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: or they're getting denied. And why are they're getting denied

1021
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: because I know they're applying, right, we know they're applying,

1022
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: but they're definitely not getting hired. They're not in our

1023
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: neighborhoods patrolling. Um. You know. So, I think that's a

1024
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: question that we don't know the answers to that right now.

1025
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: This is the question is yeah, but it's not gonna

1026
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: be as many as as the Mexican. But affirmative action

1027
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: is supposed to to guarantee some sort of equitable hiring process,

1028
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: Like there's women being hired now that that in the

1029
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: early eighties, they would never hire them in the lap

1030
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: in the early eighties or late seventies. Would you put

1031
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: a lot of Mexicans you just said you have versus

1032
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: nine percent, you're gonna try to go in with the

1033
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: all the games you got in comfort or black majority

1034
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: of that's not true the Mexican that's just the one

1035
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: you have. The Mexican games are out, she'd be seventy,

1036
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: she'd be threes. You have the money bigger compting down

1037
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: that seventy Mexican over thirty percent black. That's the ratio.

1038
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: When I was a common conficent was seventy the black Mexican.

1039
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: But the difference, how can they come over and tell

1040
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: me what I need to do and they don't know

1041
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: what I mean? Who already? Man? I mean, I mean,

1042
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: you know better than I do. Use the police. And

1043
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: you know how like going to certain neighborhoods and certain people,

1044
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: the black games ain't been in respect of these officers

1045
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: because they they don't see black officers at there. So

1046
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: what does they do? They keep getting on. They're gonna

1047
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: run and run, and then it should get worser. And

1048
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: then how does it look when you have a Latino

1049
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: Mexican deputy or officers shooting and killing a black gang

1050
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: member that ends up being unarmed, like just happened in

1051
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: the Compton a seat of black pirrou dude got shot

1052
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: and killed by a Latino deputy. And how does that look?

1053
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't look good. But like you said,

1054
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: when you have uh, you know versus you're gonna have

1055
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: that incident where you're gonna have seventy cops all of

1056
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: a hundred cops are Mexicans. Should we're basically fighting a

1057
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: losing battle. And well, I think I think l A

1058
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: is dealing with the same issues. And you see them

1059
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: because all of y'all moved up the found town there.

1060
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: That's that white power should they do. And you see

1061
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of that police officers doing this.

1062
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: Come on, man, should they be here? Oh if you

1063
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: get a card doing it? And you don't think they

1064
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: deal with it when they when they catch her, and

1065
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: you don't think they deal with the losers. I just

1066
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: think the old gang social media will get you five

1067
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: quicker than anything in law. Enforce that police, our ship,

1068
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: our own self. Look the shaff the new sheriff of

1069
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: l A, l A sheriff that he just rehired a

1070
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: bunch of deputies that were lost their jobs. He put them,

1071
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: he put them in an upper management because he had

1072
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: to get his boys. And that's one thing you better

1073
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: do against the wishes of the county border supervisors. That

1074
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: was one incident. I think you won't hired two people

1075
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: one or two one or two people, but most of

1076
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: the people who brought back it was because he was

1077
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of that. But that's his mentality.

1078
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: I know, it's just one or two people. But his

1079
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: mentality gives are bad cops. But I'm rehiring him. His

1080
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: thing was that he didn't feel that they should have

1081
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: been terminated in the first But that's not a decision

1082
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: to make the county border supervisor count you know, the

1083
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: five county border super the county his budget. We were

1084
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: the balls stuff that, Sarah, because we don't voted to man, Well,

1085
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't know of the budget. That's it. They just control.

1086
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: They can give him a dollar versus a hundred million dollars.

1087
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: That's all they can do on because he's voted. He's

1088
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: a he's a you know, he's voted by the people.

1089
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: But the control that they have over the sheriff is

1090
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: the budget. You know, he can go and request this

1091
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: amount of money and they'd be like, I don't know,

1092
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: we're not giving you that. So that's why you gotta

1093
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: play ball with him a little bit. Well, I think

1094
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: that the sheriff is starting off kind of on a

1095
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: shaky ground already. Oh yeah, you know. He but that's

1096
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: how he won. That's how he We have never had

1097
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: a sitting share losing the election. I don't know how

1098
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Jim McDonald lost that and actually Jim McDonald favorite. He

1099
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite. He comes from Low Beach

1100
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: and all of that slice permament. But they hated he

1101
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: was not he's not a politician. No, it wasn't that.

1102
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good old boy. That's the one thing

1103
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: about the share They are a good old boy system.

1104
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: They take care of with that with within. Then so

1105
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: they got or well he went to Long Beach. He

1106
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: went out there to the beach. But that's what happened,

1107
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: and he seems appeared to have been a good guy.

1108
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: He just wasn't a sharer. And they are a good,

1109
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: good old boys system. They got rid of them quick.

1110
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: You figured you get ten thousands, you get ten thousand

1111
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: UM sharffs against you, and they go tell all their

1112
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: family members to vote and get out a vote. What what?

1113
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: What the sheriff one with a million votes in UM

1114
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: in the l A county If that because we don't

1115
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: get out the vote like we shared, the likelihood of

1116
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: seeing a black person lead the sheriff's department is probably

1117
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: almost impossible because it's all it's all politics, politics, which

1118
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm here's a question the lp D. It's all about appointments.

1119
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: Sheriff is about elections. Elections, what's the better system? Share off?

1120
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: But once you get elected, you control all the other positions, correct,

1121
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: So basically all of those positions are elected because one

1122
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: guy gets elected. So I've always felt that elections should

1123
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: be out of policing. That's a good point. What do

1124
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: you think about that? That's a good point. But then

1125
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: you have politicians running a police department. Do you want that?

1126
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Because politicians an't gonna go about what their preachers say,

1127
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, then you have your ministers and your pastors

1128
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: running running police department. Well, in Los Angeles, I don't

1129
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: think the mayor has uh power to to fire the

1130
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: chief of police. Well, he said the commission, that's but

1131
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: he the one that appoints him. In the city of

1132
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: l A. No, I think he just recommends, he approves it.

1133
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the mayor's final decision. I think

1134
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: he do all departmental heads unlike most city managers. Usually

1135
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: that's the city manager job in most cities, But the

1136
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: mayor of l A is the city manager for But

1137
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: the mayor always goes with the with the commission says anyways,

1138
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: that really because he appoints the commission. Yeah, So it's

1139
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: not really the mayor's decision, but he has the final state.

1140
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: He does, but one has a mayor went against the

1141
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: commission's suggestion. You know, I don't think it's happened a

1142
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: long time. I don't know, But yeah, man, this whole

1143
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: police verse gang thing is a conversation that we're gonna

1144
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: be having for years. I truly believe. But me personally,

1145
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: I say, don't even involve in him right now because

1146
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: we could do it ourselves. It just takes each neighborhood

1147
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: to police itself. That's where that's where the big homies

1148
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: come in at. But we need money though. This is

1149
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: what we need resource intervention and prevention. It requires money. Okay,

1150
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: it starts. It starts with the parking recreation something. We

1151
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: save money. We save money. Every neighborhood in the City

1152
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles comes to everywhere else generates money. Money

1153
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: come through? Is it you gotta spend your money, You

1154
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: gotta spend money on doesn't cometing? Do you really see

1155
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: that generating money? I ain't said no business, no black

1156
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: own business. I'm saying street money. Guys got money out there, man,

1157
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna put it back into uh?

1158
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: Into the neighborhood. Why not. It's gonna benefit you in

1159
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: the long run anyway, it's gonna benefit were you speaking

1160
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: what Nipsey did. That's what Nipsey was trying to do.

1161
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: He was trying to appreciate he was doing that. But

1162
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: all he had in there, well, I'm not gonna shoot

1163
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: him down. I like what he was doing as far

1164
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: as the business and stuff like that. But you look

1165
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: at the businesses that he had in that little shopping

1166
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: center generated. It's from boots, a boost Folk, a barbershop,

1167
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: a tax preparation in a clothing star. Not hard. I

1168
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: thought it was a great start, especially for that neighborhood.

1169
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: It's great. I like what he did with the business

1170
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: class right. Yeah, before you knew it, he would have

1171
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: had the gas station. Uh you know, he would have

1172
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: probably had the chicken place across the st. Think what

1173
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: he was doing was great, don't don't don't you know

1174
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: other than Lebron James, as far as somebody we know,

1175
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: because you know with that schooling and buying people bicycles,

1176
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: that that's you know, we we all forget about that

1177
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: when he did in his neighborhood what he did, if

1178
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: more people can do what like Lebron James and all

1179
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: that come back and do things like that, then I

1180
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: think that's a great start. But we only have Lebron

1181
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: them seeing. Yeah, it's not it's not enough of us

1182
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: doing that. That's why we need the government to provide resources. Um,

1183
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: the government ain't gonna give you nothing. Government don't want

1184
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: to give you nothing. Now that grid, the grid is

1185
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: the government. Look at all these on these on these

1186
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: black rappers enter Chine. We got If these guys don't

1187
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: want to spend a few dollars to help the people,

1188
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: for us to get back, for for them to get

1189
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: on their people, for their kids to be safe. It's

1190
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: just a life investment. Y'all don't see it that way.

1191
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: But I mean somebody got to just like what you

1192
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: think if I can go out of and spens on

1193
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: your CD and you you're you're, you were two hundred

1194
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars, what is it gonna go shoot you?

1195
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: You spend that in a nightclub making it rain? Yeah,

1196
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: you're right. Actually, my dad used to say the same thing.

1197
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: Every black rich entertainer can solve have these problems if

1198
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: they put their money to it, but they never do.

1199
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk I remember saying something, well, Dr Dre, I

1200
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: know he did, and that was with Jimmy Ivan to

1201
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: usc okay Um. But he was supposed to build arts,

1202
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: uh or something like that. How's that project going? You

1203
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: know anything about that? He gave like fire to me

1204
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: And I was in the city of Compton to build

1205
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: what are you supposed to had like arts? Like like

1206
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: I think Redondo Beach has that arts center or something

1207
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: like that. Dre supports the Compton Airport and the school

1208
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: they got their teaching black people had to fly. I mean,

1209
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: that's one of the most amazing airports I've ever seen.

1210
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: Who's teaching like ten year old black people to fly planes?

1211
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: So so I'm saying people are doing that. We probably

1212
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: just haven't really heard them. But maybe we need to

1213
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: make people more accountable and doing things like that. That

1214
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: program indirectly helps the bigger problem, but we need programs

1215
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: to directly work on the gang problem. Like that will

1216
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: help kids, that will inspire kids to become pla years.

1217
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: We don't lost everybody. I never you have. As a whole,

1218
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 1: there's a few that's going to come out and gonna

1219
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: be great, successful people. But as a whole, I think

1220
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: we don't lost. But my thing is, let's get back

1221
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 1: to these five year old ten year olds and let's

1222
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: do something with them that's that's not to see then

1223
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: and now to doing the right things for the programs

1224
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: that you're speaking. And that's why I went back to

1225
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: the parking recreation and you know the baseball diamonds and

1226
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: the good coaching and uh and and the sports stuff

1227
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: that I you know, I live out in Corona and

1228
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: and and you see the baseball diamonds and stuff they

1229
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: have out here. I know they built one that come

1230
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: to college that's supposed to be nice and stuff. But

1231
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: we need more of them out there. We were I

1232
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: look at the Dodgers, the Dodgers right now, you know

1233
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: what many African America, well, I don't like to use

1234
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: the word African Black Americans that's on the all sanding

1235
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: of the Dodgers right now. Very few. That means very

1236
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: that's just baseball but zero. Yeah, but Major League Baseball

1237
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of black folks anymore. But

1238
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm just because we're not out there. Who's coaching though?

1239
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Who do we know that's out here that that's took

1240
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: the time With the year Little League took a decline

1241
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: after the riots of two because what they started putting

1242
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: the resources into law enforcement and took them away from

1243
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: the parking wreck. So I think all those programs are important,

1244
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: but we need to directly deal with the gangs. What

1245
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: do you do? You suggest that what we gotta we

1246
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: have what's called intervention and prevention. Right, So what James

1247
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: was talking about with his nephew, that's intervention because they

1248
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about with the five year old

1249
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: and sixty that's prevention. So it's a lot of times

1250
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: we just throw those two words together like it's the

1251
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: same thing, but it's not. So we need separate prevention programs.

1252
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: But then we need that direct intervention. That's when we're

1253
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: dealing with the sixteen seventeen. Say, well, we got training

1254
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but do they let you under

1255
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: training schools without a g D or they don't have

1256
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: to be a real school. It could be just a

1257
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: program that's set up in the community that teaches sixteen

1258
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: and seventeen year olds how to use a video camera,

1259
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: how to edit film and video. And you might get

1260
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: one of these kids that's the worst out there. Just

1261
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: be like, wow, this is amazing. I want to learn

1262
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: how to use this camera and I can shoot my

1263
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: own videos. Oh, I can edit my own videos, and

1264
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 1: he might just start being inspired by this little program.

1265
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: But that requires money. It's easy to say because just

1266
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: like your wife was saying, you teach them young. You

1267
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: get them when they four and five years old, and

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01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: you teach them this ain't away. That's the prevention, and

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01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: that's the good thing about it. But then you've got

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: the other my nephews them, so you got you gotta

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01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: have somewhere for them to go. You know what I'm

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01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: saying for this, Okay, but behind much teaching something, how

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: do we learn something a different I ain't. I ain't

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: learned nothing myself. But what I taught myself. I taught

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: myself how to fix breaks just looking at my grandfather

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: do it. And then okay, I had a knack at it.

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01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the solutions for a lot of

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: these the ones that you've already gave up on. Um

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01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: teaching them skills, not through g D or traditional education ways,

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: because a lot of these kids aren't prepared for that,

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: but teaching them maybe mechanic having a mechanic spot in

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: in Compton, imagine if you had a mechanic school in

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: Compton to teach teenagers, how many of those kids off

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: the street would actually go to that? A lot of

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: them would. And they have buildings over there, and they

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 1: had over the old Edison building on bullets role. Okay,

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: So with that, all it takes is people like like

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01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: a game that's say he's with it or people with money.

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: This is how you put back in your community, knowing

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: it's going somewhere right instead of blowing it. So you

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: get them or whomever, and they invest their money, they

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: invest in this building. You get maybe eight teachers start

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: off with five to teach these different skills, breaks, water

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01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: pumps or whatever. Once that get going, you can explain,

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01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: but you can you can expand. It ain't like he

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01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: losing money, because he's getting taxes off of it. Here

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: doing you're not losing. You're not losing. So opposed to

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: just talking about it, let's be about it, because if

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Speaker 1: I had the money, it wouldn't be no question. Let's

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: find a building. Let's find somebody that that we can

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: put in here that we know ain't gonna run off

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: with it or you know, and mess stuff up. So

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: let's get people in here to handle this type of stuff.

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01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: How that's great. I mean, on on on the Mexican

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: Waters Project over on Central you have things like that

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: we don't want, we don't understand, but that's what they are.

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: What we want to teach our own How how can

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: you said you want the game members to teach it?

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Who you want to teach? Know you you got some cash,

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: this more too, but you know you gotta be certified

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01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: to teach. My point is is programs out there, and

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 1: we still have the game problem, and we still have

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01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: the problem that I don't think it's enough programs, so

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: you don't think it's And I think they need to

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01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 1: be spread out throughout the entire city county because because

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: I know where I grew up at Man, there's literally

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01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: like nothing around there like programs or educational programs or

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: the only thing we got is l a trade tech college.

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01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: But of course you gotta be on that traditional education

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: path to go. You know, most of our our youngsters

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: are they don't know how to read them write at

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: that level, but they can go there and learn water

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01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: pumps or or transmission or rebuilding an engine. Um, they

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 1: can learn those those skills so that you can start

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: your own business. And I don't think I'm not saying that.

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm not for that MICUs being on the corner. You

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: move them out and you got that corner, and it's

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: black owned everything. No everything, we're doing the hood. We

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: go and give our money to everybody else. Why can't

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: we get a job at MICUs? Why I get a

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: job at minus and you can own your own This

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01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: is helping us instead of making everybody else rich, we

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: can help ourselves. Well. I want to believe it's programs

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: out there, but like I said, it's not enough, and

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: so we just have to research them and get into it.

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: Would just like to. I think also another thing that

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: the ones that we feel that you know, we've lost them,

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: I like to believe that and teach them that there

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: is redemption. I mean, I remember when I was in school,

1340
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: eighth grade, ninth grade. I mean I was failing and

1341
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: I felt that there was no one there for me.

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: So all I did was just kept digging a deeper hole,

1343
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: digging a deeper hole until someone was there to help me.

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01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: But teaching them redemption, knowing that redemption isn't just about

1345
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: going to prison and coming back and changing, but redemption

1346
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: is now fifteen fourteen, Oh you're not doing so well,

1347
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: but it's okay, you can change, you know, and you

1348
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: know about the resources out there. There are so many

1349
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: resources out there, there are probably on every corner. But

1350
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: it's once again, it goes back to the family structure.

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01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: Who's teaching me this, Who's telling me that there are

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: the resources out there? I mean, for me, you know,

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01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: I have to call I have to hear from another parent.

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, there's this happening, there's that happening. So I

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: get on it. But who's getting on it for them?

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: Who's they're advocating for them? Right? Also, I don't think

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: the police support all these programs anyways, because when you

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: look at the way these budgets get allocated for prevention, intervention,

1359
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: and suppression, where all the money go suppression and little

1360
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 1: bits of pieces get sprinkled into the intervention prevention program.

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: And I think we need less suppression. I know your

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01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: most police will say, no, we need suppression because we

1363
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: gotta fight crime out there, right, But I think there's

1364
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: too much suppression. I agree with it. I mean that's

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: what most of your city budgets are going into, uh,

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01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: into law enforcement and fire, law enforcement, fired budgets of

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01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: the city budget is allocated for the law enforcement and detment.

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: That has to change at some at some level, whether

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: it's the City of Los Angeles or the county or

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: some of these other municipalities. Chief need to speak up,

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: but no one wants to take less money when it

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01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: comes to law enforcement. For example, I used to hear

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: Mayor via Reghost, the former mayor of l A would

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: speak locally about crime is low, our gang problem is low,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: We're at a thirty year low. But then he goes

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: to Washington, d c. And tell him how it's bad.

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01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: It's how bad it is. So why does he do

1378
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: that Because he's trying to get those federal dollars. So

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: all and it's all about how you write the report.

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01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: They start telling well, if technically you break in the

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: car is an auto burgery? Are are? But no, that's

1382
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: petty down, you know, so you keep it low. They

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: teach you how to write right reports down. If you

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01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: arrest somebody, you you you're book for auto burglary. But

1385
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: if you just go out and follow up a Polarte

1386
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: reporter that thing, then you're just making a petty down.

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: And so that's the game that they played with the

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: that's a cold game the game that they play, playing

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01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: that that that city government is playing, you know, manipulating

1390
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: those stats. In fact, there was expose and l a

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01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: times a couple of years about Charlie Beck, the former

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: chief of l ap D manipulating those prime statistics. They

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: played with the stat They play with the stats. If

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01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: if somebody, uh, if you kept somebody and they got shot,

1395
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: its attempted murder is just try to get that an

1396
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: assault salt battery, but if not at least you know,

1397
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: this assault with daily weapon where they you know, they

1398
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: play with those games. They play those it's all about

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01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: what if you get somebody in custody or you think

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01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: you'll be able to uh you have a good leads

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01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: where you can make an arrest and then you can

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: put them up to those those high categories. So they

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: play with the statistics, they manipulate the data. They go

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: to Watchington d C get federal funding and then they

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: allocate majority of that money towards suppression and they're not

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01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: really promoting the intervention prevention programs that would actually help

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: the city. I mean, that's it in a nutshell right

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: there period period. So I mean all of that. I'm

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01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: just how do we help ourselves now? We need a solution.

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01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: The city needed solution, Our people need a solution. That's

1411
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. So somebody gotta figure it out. I mean,

1412
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: because everything that they these guys are doing now it's

1413
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: gonna be for nothing. You're gonna run into a dad

1414
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: war dad in and then what what what happens after that?

1415
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: You go right back to doing what we're doing. So

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: are we know? Okay, let me let me throw this

1417
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: at you. Uh, explain to them what the grid officers

1418
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: do and would you want to be that officer. I'm

1419
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: not offer the gang enforcement officer. I mean they're out

1420
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: there patrolling. They're jumping out, filling out that five cards,

1421
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: patting people down out the grid. The Grid guys UM

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: and those guys are on there. UM they get alerts

1423
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: whenever there's a shooting or homicide. They go out to

1424
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: the scene to try to do crowd control, talk to

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: the family. They're like counselors. Um. They talked to the

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01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: other side if if they know it's Gang A versus

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: Gang B. The Grid guy from Gang A is talking

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01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: to the Great Guy and Gang BY and then they

1429
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: meet up at two o'clock in the morning because the

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: homicide just happened. So, I mean, it's a tough job.

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: That's some good ship though, That's what I'm saying. But

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01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: how many. But that's a government that's a government sponsored job.

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01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: They actually but would you be willing to do that?

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01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: That's the problem. See that looks like let's see what

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01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: James got to say. Yeah, yeah, I would do it

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: because I mean, just like now, let's make a difference.

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: And this is what I want, a difference. I want

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01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: my my kids, my grandkids, and my great grades to

1439
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: see Grandpa doing something totally different that's gonna make them

1440
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: want to do different and be different. So yeah, my

1441
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: doors is open for I've always wanted to have a

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01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: building where I can have kids and talk and talk

1443
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: to kids. I've talked to talk about what we want

1444
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: to do for kids. But then the were talking about

1445
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: because eighteen and you know that that that group of

1446
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen, some people can't handle seeing their homeboy down

1447
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: there on that ground dead. I didn't had a couple

1448
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 1: of them die in my arms, so I know what

1449
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: it's like. And you know, I know your story probably

1450
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: so I know what it's about. I haven't been on

1451
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: both sides. I haven't been on the other side of

1452
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: the good. I've been shot both times. So I know

1453
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: what it feel like. I know where to feel like

1454
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: squeezing the trigger. You know what I'm saying. So you

1455
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: you're excited on both sides. But how did you make it?

1456
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Make just you just don't want people to go through

1457
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: what you don't went through. You wish they can learn

1458
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: from your examples. And yeah, I know what especially people

1459
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: is helping and and and by saying my difference helping

1460
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: is starting with with family and then then doing this

1461
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: So I can do this all day. I can do

1462
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: it all. Oh no, we don't. We're all in a

1463
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: half and now I'm talking about the show. But get

1464
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: out there and chalk and and and and walk with

1465
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: keys and chalk all day. So yeah, I would do it. Yeah, alright,

1466
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: well ganks the chronicles, um Man, this is this is

1467
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: a section that can go on for for hours. Um

1468
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: but we know y'all won't tune in that long, so

1469
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and end it here. Man, Alex

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01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: was a pleasure man speaking with you and all of

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01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: your knowledge, um Man, appreciate you to me. I'll make

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01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: sure you're gonna check out his YouTube channel, street TV

1473
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: street tv on on YouTube x X. What is it

1474
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: called what I want to say? Uh, but I still

1475
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: got street Gangs dot Com. You can go check that

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Speaker 1: out too. Exactly exactly man. So you'll be here from

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Speaker 1: Alex a lot. Uh, very knowledgeable brother, and you know

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Speaker 1: James once again, Happy birthday brother. And we don't say

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Speaker 1: Easter anymore. We say Resurrection Sunday. And did I say

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Speaker 1: it right? Probably not, But anyway, you'll have a good one.

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Speaker 1: And episode three of aaginst the Chronicles piece up as

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Speaker 1: this has been a Digital Soapbox Network production