Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hey, what's up? Welcome to Good Calls.
Speaker 1: I'm Dean Blandino. Another episode, Episode one. Has it been
Speaker 1: twenty one already? I've been sitting across The band is back.
Speaker 1: We're back together after a week hiatus. Travis and Joe
Speaker 1: are both here. We're in the same room. I can
Speaker 1: look at Travis and make him uncomfortable. I already am
Speaker 1: starting to starting to get uncomfortable. Travis Hansen, producer, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Joe Madrid Audio, It's okay, extraordinary something. No, it's work.
Speaker 1: The audio has been it's been great. Um, so let's
Speaker 1: get into it, you know, not to I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean we have to talk about it. Unbelievable news um
Speaker 1: on Sunday, Um, Kobe Bryant passing away and a helicopter crash.
Speaker 1: I mean this this is one of those where, um,
Speaker 1: it's like I can't think of try to think of
Speaker 1: a bigger in terms of the NBA, like a a
Speaker 1: former player other than Michael Jordan's, Like this is as
Speaker 1: big as it gets. And and and so many people
Speaker 1: were um affected. You know, we all watched Kobe, we
Speaker 1: all the guy was universally loved. Um, just an unbelievably
Speaker 1: tragic thing that happened. You know, Joe's a big Laker fans,
Speaker 1: so obviously it hits a little a little closer to
Speaker 1: home for you. Um, just weird, Like the whole thing
Speaker 1: is just kind of surreal, it is. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it today, and I've had some some of the
Speaker 1: some great moments watching Kobe. I remember watching like when
Speaker 1: in the finals, I mean when you and I first met,
Speaker 1: we were watching Kobe. You know, watching Kobe, and I
Speaker 1: know you joke around about it all the time, but
Speaker 1: like do you face you thought you were and you
Speaker 1: thought you were Kobe. And but but I think that
Speaker 1: some of those some of the celebrations that I've had
Speaker 1: throughout my early twenties, and just that's the power. That's
Speaker 1: the power, and we were That's the power of sports, right.
Speaker 1: And Look, the bottom line is is that we're not
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant passing or whoever the other other whether it's
Speaker 1: a celebrity or an athlete somebody that we looked up
Speaker 1: to and we were a fan of passing. It doesn't
Speaker 1: affect our everyday life, right, It doesn't like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow. I'm gonna do what I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do, regardless of whether Kobe is here or not.
Speaker 1: But like what you said, Joe, we we kind of
Speaker 1: we think about that person and what that person means
Speaker 1: to us because of the experiences that we've had watching
Speaker 1: that person being a part of you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: whether it's an actor that we like in that movie
Speaker 1: or like you said, two thousands and finals are watching
Speaker 1: him score eighty one points. We it's all part of
Speaker 1: our experience and that's what you know, we kind of
Speaker 1: miss right, and that's what makes it so tragic. And
Speaker 1: obviously you know the people that that should be. You know,
Speaker 1: it's horrible his family, he is, he loses, you know,
Speaker 1: not just Kobe, his daughter. There were there were but
Speaker 1: nine people on that on that helicopter that that their
Speaker 1: families are now changed forever. But it's one of those
Speaker 1: deals where again it doesn't impact our everyday life. But
Speaker 1: what it does, at least in my opinion, it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of when somebody liked that passes that is universally known.
Speaker 1: It it kind of brings us all together and it's
Speaker 1: a reality check and you'll see it you'll see it
Speaker 1: on social media with what what is the message? Life
Speaker 1: is short? Life, Life is short. Anything It could happen
Speaker 1: to any one of us at any time, and it's
Speaker 1: that reality check where we get caught up so much
Speaker 1: in our everyday lives and doing and we forget to
Speaker 1: you know it's a cliche, but you know, we forget
Speaker 1: to smell the roses. We forget to like take time
Speaker 1: to to appreciate the things that we have and our
Speaker 1: our loved ones and and the people that we that
Speaker 1: we interact with. And that's what I think, Like something
Speaker 1: like this it kind of just takes us to that
Speaker 1: back to center, that that kind of ground floor, and
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's what I take from it. And
Speaker 1: it's it's sad. It's just really sad and terrible, man,
Speaker 1: you know, and being a father of a daughter, it
Speaker 1: hits you in another way you know as well. Well.
Speaker 1: Multiple times throughout the day, I just like I thought
Speaker 1: about his his family and his his daughter and my daughter,
Speaker 1: and I just would would tear up. It just it
Speaker 1: just hits you. And and I'm sure it was the
Speaker 1: same with you, Dean, with with your sons, and like
Speaker 1: it's so fragile and it is and that's and like
Speaker 1: not to and and I'm like being serious, and it
Speaker 1: made like I think it's a time for us to
Speaker 1: all like I appreciate you guys, API and and you know,
Speaker 1: and just and and it's interesting thinking about the it
Speaker 1: tends to be like these these like small aircraft, right,
Speaker 1: these small You look at some of the the athletes
Speaker 1: are famous people that have passed in in in aviation disasters,
Speaker 1: and and this is just another another person, another celebrity,
Speaker 1: another athlete, and that in that list, like the one
Speaker 1: I remember Roy Holliday, remember Holiday passed away into in
Speaker 1: in sen I was in New York when Corey Little
Speaker 1: in two thousand six hit personally, yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: grew up in the same town and and he you know,
Speaker 1: small small aircraft and it hit an apartment building in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: and obviously having been lived in New York during nine eleven,
Speaker 1: when that happens people, it definitely brought back some some crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy memories. You know, you think about Payne Stewart Um
Speaker 1: who passed away even and I went back and looking
Speaker 1: at a list and and something that I really had
Speaker 1: forgotten about the the US amateur boxing team in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty fourteen. Members of the team were among eight seven
Speaker 1: killed in a commercial airline of crash and in Poland.
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson. Sure Yankee fans remember Thurman Munson. Um, I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I never got a chance to watch him play.
Speaker 1: I was. I was one year old when he passed.
Speaker 1: But Roberto Clementi, you know, Roberto Clementi was was Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, an unbelievable player, was traveling from from Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico to Nicaragua to assist um, you know, victims of
Speaker 1: an earthquake in that in that area, and and passed
Speaker 1: away in a small a small aircraft crash. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: just pretty crazy. The list goes on and on. The
Speaker 1: mark the Marshall football team, you know, the one that
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize. Rocky Marciano died in a plane crash.
Speaker 1: Rocky Marsiano, Yeah, nineteen sixty nine, died in a plane
Speaker 1: plane crash in in in Iowa. And then I mean
Speaker 1: the list of and then non athletes. You think about Richie,
Speaker 1: Richie Vallence, Buddy Holly, Um, you know there was Leonard
Speaker 1: Skinner was members of Leonyard Skinner in the seventies, you
Speaker 1: remember John John F. Kennedy Jr. And and and Caroline
Speaker 1: Bissett um Aaliyah Aliyah died in a plane crash. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many it's it's scary. It's really scary. And um,
Speaker 1: it's just again life is fragile and uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's just one of those deals. But um kind of
Speaker 1: to kind of shift gears. And I know, like, just
Speaker 1: I feel like we need I don't want to get
Speaker 1: too down right now. I feel like we need a
Speaker 1: little like you know who would bring us up right now?
Speaker 1: Is Ray Mendez. I want like, if Ray Mendez is here,
Speaker 1: Raymondez wouldn't let us sink too deep into the into
Speaker 1: the pity pool right now. Ray would be like, listen,
Speaker 1: look at me. You think I'm you think I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pitying myself. I just I just I just did an
Speaker 1: iron man. Okay, So let's go. Kobe would want us
Speaker 1: to move forward. Okay, so let's do it. We are
Speaker 1: gonna get raymendous um one more thing, and just I
Speaker 1: don't we My brother has been on the show. So
Speaker 1: here's to put it all, to put a ball on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's my brother's take. Okay, Celtics Pelicans. Both teams started
Speaker 1: the game, opening up with violation in memory of Kobe. Okay,
Speaker 1: so sad what happened, but basically a minute gone from
Speaker 1: the game that affects the over under like that was
Speaker 1: his text. So, okay, if you're going to honor, you're
Speaker 1: any anyone like that, don't let it impact the betting line.
Speaker 1: It's basically what he's saying. I think that's my brother, everyone.
Speaker 1: I think they should have canceled the games come born
Speaker 1: from the same womb. We've come from the same the
Speaker 1: same kind, and that's that's mother and father, raised in
Speaker 1: the same house. We pretty much had the same childhood.
Speaker 1: He obviously had the over on that game. He clearly um.
Speaker 1: There was another story I heard on my my drive
Speaker 1: over here was the Mavericks are going to retire number
Speaker 1: twenty four, and I would guess the NBA will do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that'll be a that'll be kind of a
Speaker 1: wide thing. You know. You think about numbers that have
Speaker 1: been retired across the league and like like a Jackie
Speaker 1: Robinson and things like that, and they they wear forty
Speaker 1: two and on certain so maybe this is I could
Speaker 1: see the NBA doing something like a every January twenty
Speaker 1: every every January, everybody would wear twenty four, you know,
Speaker 1: something like that. I think it's a little bit how
Speaker 1: do you do that? It's hard basketball baseball is a
Speaker 1: little bit different. But do something. I'm sure it's this.
Speaker 1: This is a guy you know even and here's like
Speaker 1: the we talked about the just the the level of
Speaker 1: people that he that he touched, Like, my mom was
Speaker 1: heartbroken because, you know, Kobe spent part of his childhood
Speaker 1: and in Italy, his dad played internationally, he spoke fluent Italian.
Speaker 1: Um my mom has watched him do interviews in Italian.
Speaker 1: My mom coming from Italy, you know, came here when
Speaker 1: she was seventeen, so she was just a huge Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant fan. She she was broken up about it. It's
Speaker 1: just one of those things where again it doesn't impact
Speaker 1: our daily life, but it impacts us in such a
Speaker 1: way when somebody like that passes, because again, we all
Speaker 1: have shared we've we've shared experiences with with him. You know,
Speaker 1: we we don't know him, we haven't met him, but
Speaker 1: we've shared experiences. And isn't it crazy It's a day
Speaker 1: after Lebron passes passed up. Yeah, it's it's crazy, it's
Speaker 1: it's I got a text from from a friend of
Speaker 1: mine and it wasn't it hadn't hit any social media,
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's no way this is true.
Speaker 1: Well that the thing about that, well Travis brought this up,
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that and this this goes to
Speaker 1: so TMZ breaks this story. Okay, and they break the story.
Speaker 1: And when TMZ breaks the story, it's like we we
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was true or not. This isn't
Speaker 1: like CNN, not that TMC has become um has become
Speaker 1: their go to they are breaking stories in sports, Okay,
Speaker 1: but it was like TMZ broke it, and your your
Speaker 1: immediate thought is is this real? This is this not true?
Speaker 1: Whereas if it were you know, the l A, Times
Speaker 1: or CNN or whatever, Fox Fox, if if it were,
Speaker 1: then it would have been more like accepted. If they
Speaker 1: hadn't already they've submitted themselves as a news breaker in
Speaker 1: this business. And well, I tell you they're always right.
Speaker 1: My experience with the NFL, you know, with the with
Speaker 1: Ray Rice, I mean, do you think the league that
Speaker 1: caused so much, so much consternation within the league office
Speaker 1: when TMZ released the video ray Rice in the in
Speaker 1: the elevator um. That was like NFL security, they were
Speaker 1: trying to get this this tape and TMC ends up
Speaker 1: with it and it and that created a lot of
Speaker 1: issue for the NFL when it came to, you know,
Speaker 1: with the domestic the domestic violence and everything else. He
Speaker 1: had been suspended for two games, the video comes out,
Speaker 1: Now two games, what is that? It's so it's unbelievable
Speaker 1: where they've come um with breaking these stories. And obviously
Speaker 1: I have personal experience with TMZ sports not not the
Speaker 1: point you were trying to make what you were bringing
Speaker 1: up was TMZ broke the story before the Sheriff's department
Speaker 1: was able to alert the next man. And that's that's
Speaker 1: the hard part about And look, this is the this
Speaker 1: is the environment and the and the world that we
Speaker 1: are in today, and that with social media and all
Speaker 1: these things, you're like, somebody in the family of any
Speaker 1: any anyone involved in that crash is going to see
Speaker 1: this and they don't know if it's real, and that
Speaker 1: has to be I don't That might even be worse
Speaker 1: than than knowing, because family members are gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that I don't. I'm not sure. It's
Speaker 1: like then you have this kind of like hanging over
Speaker 1: your head, like, oh my god, I just want to
Speaker 1: know is it true? And uh yeah, it's so hard,
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know. I mean, I get it,
Speaker 1: like they're trying to break stories, but you everyone wants
Speaker 1: to get it out there first. They want to be
Speaker 1: the first to break the news. Yeah. And and this
Speaker 1: is this will be one that everybody remembers, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody remembers, you know, what they were doing and where
Speaker 1: they were. Um and and it's sad. It's sad I
Speaker 1: might have and and he's this I've you know, my
Speaker 1: nine year old who never never watched Kobe Kobe play,
Speaker 1: and he was upset and asking about it. You know.
Speaker 1: So it's it's just one of those deals. Um. So
Speaker 1: one story I have with Kobe. My wife and I
Speaker 1: spending um Valentine's Day at Catalina Island and we walk
Speaker 1: past Kobe and his wife on Valentine's Day from me
Speaker 1: to you eight feet away, Dean, and Kobe's right there,
Speaker 1: and I kind of hit my wife and like Caitlin, Caitlin,
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's Kobe right there, and she
Speaker 1: just like wide mouth, looked at him and like just
Speaker 1: froze and like watched him walk by, and some other
Speaker 1: people that like, Yeah, that's Kobe right there, guys, and
Speaker 1: that's um and that's nice. Travis, I didn't really add
Speaker 1: anything to the conversation. He didn't. You didn't talk to him,
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything. I know, because it being a
Speaker 1: being a member of the media working in the sports world,
Speaker 1: I always just like, you know, I let people do
Speaker 1: their amber of the media worrying in the sports world.
Speaker 1: I wrote elbows. I wrote elbows with these with these
Speaker 1: guys like theirs. I just like, I don't like to
Speaker 1: stop suppers either, but I think Kobe I probably would have.
Speaker 1: There's this thing was my wife was, we're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna talk about that after the break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the level of celebrity where it's, oh,
Speaker 1: where it's legal to stop them, Okay, that that we're
Speaker 1: gonna do that rule and we're gonna break that down
Speaker 1: in the in the after the break, let's let's shift gears.
Speaker 1: Let's talk super Bowl. Obviously, super Bowl fifty four on
Speaker 1: Fox coming up February second, and the Super Bowl crew
Speaker 1: was was released, and I just want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the we talked about it last week
Speaker 1: and how um, you know, historic because of the makeup
Speaker 1: of the crew and having five African American officials on
Speaker 1: the crew and again and this and this goes toward
Speaker 1: the really the NFL. And look, the NFL is getting
Speaker 1: a lot of heat right now because another coaching hiring
Speaker 1: cycle without without you know, an African American head coach
Speaker 1: being hired. You did have Ron rivera UM, who's who's
Speaker 1: of Puerto Rican and Mexican descent. UM. But look, when
Speaker 1: you have a when you have a a player pool,
Speaker 1: that is what African American. And you have very few
Speaker 1: African Americans in positions of leadership, whether it's head coach,
Speaker 1: general manager, UM. That's an issue. And and so the
Speaker 1: league is taken is taking some heat in terms of UM.
Speaker 1: The you have the Rooney Rule, which a lot of
Speaker 1: people feel is just a rubber stamp that you know,
Speaker 1: you have to interview a candidate. I'm an already candidate,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the I know a
Speaker 1: lot of the minority UM assistant coaches that go through
Speaker 1: that process. They feel like in in some instances that
Speaker 1: it's just checking a box and it's not it's not
Speaker 1: genuine um. But this I think was it was nice
Speaker 1: to see. And you know, and I've been in those
Speaker 1: meetings and I've put that crew together for the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and you're always looking at a look. You want
Speaker 1: to put the best officials and you want it to
Speaker 1: be the best possible crew. But but inclusion and diversity
Speaker 1: is certainly a consideration and it was nice to see that.
Speaker 1: But you look at the makeup of the crew. And
Speaker 1: Bill Vinovich is the referee, and we'll get to him
Speaker 1: a little bit later because Vinovich worked a certain game
Speaker 1: that that a lot of people, especially in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: remember um Vinovitch working his second Super Bowl. He worked, uh,
Speaker 1: he worked a game that Joe remembers fondly, Super Bowl
Speaker 1: forty nine. I believe it was in Glendale, Seattle, New England,
Speaker 1: where uh, Joe watched an amazing finish then got the
Speaker 1: party with the Patriots because he got on the wrong
Speaker 1: bus after the game. Got on the wrong bus after
Speaker 1: the game, so instead of coming to the post dinner
Speaker 1: officiating dinner, which was lovely, which was lovely by the way,
Speaker 1: he got on the wrong bus and ended up back
Speaker 1: at the Patriots Hotel and ended up being ushered into
Speaker 1: the party and was doing shots with Gronk and partying
Speaker 1: with you know, Robert Craft and Tom Brady and Jon Jones.
Speaker 1: John Jones. So, and while we that the sculpture was beautiful,
Speaker 1: ice sculpture was amazing. The the prime the prime rib
Speaker 1: was to die for. It was delectable. It was it
Speaker 1: was very it was it was just classy. We all
Speaker 1: had a nice time. We talked about the game. Um,
Speaker 1: the drinks were certainly I wouldn't say flowing, but they were.
Speaker 1: They were there, and uh, but Joe was partying. So
Speaker 1: so I hold on a second, just to clear my name.
Speaker 1: I did send you a tech saying yes Patriots after party,
Speaker 1: I'll come. I'm on my way and with friends. I said, no,
Speaker 1: stay there, stay there, and I would have left because
Speaker 1: to show my gratitude for the great week. He was
Speaker 1: also stay there. I can't even get at that party.
Speaker 1: Stay the problem. Yes, all right, I'm saying, okay. So
Speaker 1: then you've got Barry Anderson at umpire. This is Barry's
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl assignment. Ken Payne as the down judge.
Speaker 1: This is Ken's third Super Bowl assignment. Carl Johnson line judge,
Speaker 1: former Vice president Officiating, this is his second Super Bowl asignment.
Speaker 1: Michael Banks field judge second, Boars Cheek side judge third,
Speaker 1: Greg Steed back judge second, and then Mike Chases the
Speaker 1: replay official first Super Bowl assignment. So really a good crew.
Speaker 1: You know what that process look like. You put the
Speaker 1: crew together this week for the officials will look like Wednesday,
Speaker 1: they'll get into Miami, um, they will they a lot
Speaker 1: of them will have their families there. This is an
Speaker 1: opportunity in the officiating world when you get a game
Speaker 1: like this, it's an opportunity to give back to your family.
Speaker 1: And it's because just like players, just like coaches, officials,
Speaker 1: they they sacrifice a lot and they their their way,
Speaker 1: you know, weekends, Thursday nights, Monday nights. There in the
Speaker 1: off season, they're traveling and they sacrifice a lot of
Speaker 1: time away from their families. So the Super Bowl is
Speaker 1: always a time when they bring their families and the
Speaker 1: families get to to spend time and to celebrate. It's
Speaker 1: it's the officials are there to work a game, but
Speaker 1: it's to celebrate their families. Thursday, they will have a dinner,
Speaker 1: an officiating dinner with all the crew and their families,
Speaker 1: and it's such a that's a that's my one of
Speaker 1: my favorite events of the year. And everybody gets a chance,
Speaker 1: every official gets a chance to come up, introduce his families,
Speaker 1: say you know whatever it is. Um. I used to
Speaker 1: speak at that dinner and uh. And it was always
Speaker 1: a thrill for me to see the families and and
Speaker 1: and how much they were they were enjoying it. Um. Friday,
Speaker 1: they'll do a walk through at the stadium and they
Speaker 1: walk through. You will not believe when you watch the
Speaker 1: coin toss on Sunday night, how much the coin toss
Speaker 1: has been practiced. And Friday, Yes, so they will do
Speaker 1: I'll walk throughout the stadium. How they they go through.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember the Super Bowl where George Bush
Speaker 1: was um W was going to um no, not W.
Speaker 1: It was Hed. It was George. He was gonna flip
Speaker 1: the coin and Carl Tcheffers was the referee, and he
Speaker 1: the whole thing, like literally, he was more worried about
Speaker 1: He was more worried about the coin toss than the game.
Speaker 1: He was and I was like, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: stress me out because you're worried about the coin toss.
Speaker 1: And he was like he was arguing because what we
Speaker 1: told him and what everybody we talked to said, you
Speaker 1: call him Mr President. And he's like, but he's not
Speaker 1: the president anymore. And I was like, I don't care
Speaker 1: call him Mr President. Okay, let's just get this thing over.
Speaker 1: You always call former presidents mr president. He was Mr.
Speaker 1: President and so it was like this big thing. And
Speaker 1: he finally got through the coin toss and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good game. But he that was
Speaker 1: the That was the Houston game, That was Atlanta, New England.
Speaker 1: When New England came back, that was game. So they
Speaker 1: will they will go through the coin toss, the national anthem,
Speaker 1: they'll practice all of that. Then the officials will have
Speaker 1: they'll have a dinner on their own with the with
Speaker 1: the officials union that that sponsors that dinner. They'll spend
Speaker 1: time with their families. They'll have a pregame meeting Friday.
Speaker 1: UM at some point Saturday, they'll they'll spend majority of
Speaker 1: the day breaking down film, looking at looking at um.
Speaker 1: You know, two teams try ends tendencies all of that.
Speaker 1: Someday they get up, they get to the stadium. It's
Speaker 1: the longest day ever. It's so long, and and they're
Speaker 1: on the East Coast. It's gonna be in Miami. So
Speaker 1: the game kicks off at what six you're at You're
Speaker 1: at the stadium like two o'clock, like one thirty. And
Speaker 1: by the time you want to pull your hair out,
Speaker 1: like it is, it is so long, and there's not
Speaker 1: a ton to do because normally officials get to the
Speaker 1: game three hours before they're getting there like four and
Speaker 1: a half five hours, so you've got an extra two
Speaker 1: hours that you know is not normal. And you know
Speaker 1: that's why you like that. You like when it's on
Speaker 1: the West Coast because the game is it starts earlier
Speaker 1: to earlier in the day, so um, they'll get there,
Speaker 1: but then kick off. There's a lot of hype, but
Speaker 1: it's just another game. What I do want to talk
Speaker 1: about before we go to break is that Vinovich, Um
Speaker 1: he worked what game? What? What? What? What game was?
Speaker 1: Bill Vina? It's the referee form that we've we've we
Speaker 1: had a rule change because of that. Damn games Ram Saints, okay,
Speaker 1: and so there are a lot of people saying how
Speaker 1: could he get the Super Bowl after officiating that game? Well,
Speaker 1: Bill Vinage is one of the best referees in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He really What I find interesting is at the referee position,
Speaker 1: he wasn't involved in that call. It's not his call,
Speaker 1: he's not involved. Um. The two officials that were involved
Speaker 1: in that call, Patrick Turner who was the down judge,
Speaker 1: and Gary Cavalletto, who's the side judge. Neither of those
Speaker 1: officials got a playoff assignment this year. I was gonna
Speaker 1: Cavalletto got an alternate assignment, but neither one got a
Speaker 1: playoff assignment. Coincidence, I don't think. I don't think so. So. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just one of those deals. That's a play that
Speaker 1: sticks with you. I think, you know, quite frankly, I
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing because if you gave
Speaker 1: one of those two officials a playoff assignment, and god forbid,
Speaker 1: something happened and they were involved, it would be a
Speaker 1: pr nightmare, right, which they probably wouldn't have had because
Speaker 1: there's time to time blow us. But no, but that's
Speaker 1: the thing, and those are things that you have to
Speaker 1: take into consideration, Like in it sucks, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to mark this explicit because I said sucks. I
Speaker 1: think I mark them all explicit. It sucks. But you
Speaker 1: you have to make those types of decisions because we
Speaker 1: no longer it's no longer you can't. You can't make
Speaker 1: these decisions in a vacuum. You have to consider all factors.
Speaker 1: And if one of those officials was involved in something
Speaker 1: controversial this playoffs, then people would point to that game
Speaker 1: and say, how could you have that official in the game,
Speaker 1: and and that's that's just part of it. So um,
Speaker 1: with that said, let's go to break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little pro ball. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a little m m A and uh and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a life rule breakdown next on good calls,
Speaker 1: Costeine Blandino, come and net you with the rules. Don't
Speaker 1: step back because he'll hit you like a fool. Don't
Speaker 1: tweet him because he hits you back to let you
Speaker 1: back with essay, come back, welcome back, two good calls
Speaker 1: something you know that that is when we first when
Speaker 1: we first started our theme music, Travis otherwise known as
Speaker 1: the the The the Bootleg eminem Um, decided to wrap
Speaker 1: that was just off the top of his head like
Speaker 1: that was freestyle. It was actually pretty good, Travis freestyle.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting twenty one weeks to do that. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would have died you. You really, you
Speaker 1: missed out, missed your calling. You should have been eminem befoming.
Speaker 1: M Um. All right, let's let's talk Pro Bowl. So look,
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is. Have you when's the last time
Speaker 1: you got excited about a Pro Bowl? I was probably
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. I think, yeah, I can, I can
Speaker 1: like and I work the NFL for a long time,
Speaker 1: and look, the Pro Bowl, the Pro Bowl has been
Speaker 1: something that the NFL. It's interesting because it was for
Speaker 1: many years. It was in Hawaii. It was seen as
Speaker 1: a reward. It was after the Super Bowl. It was
Speaker 1: seen as a reward after a long season. Um of
Speaker 1: these guys putting their bodies on the line. That you
Speaker 1: were honored by your by your peers, and you went
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. You went to a beautiful location
Speaker 1: and the game was kind of an afterthought, but it
Speaker 1: was just a reward and you got to take your family.
Speaker 1: But what I noticed when I went to Hawaii for
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, and it's beautiful, and the and the
Speaker 1: players would stay at this kind of resort that was
Speaker 1: kind of out of the way, um and you know everything,
Speaker 1: the the officials and everybody else would stay in y
Speaker 1: Ki ki and it's a great environment and the fans
Speaker 1: love it. But it became like less and less of
Speaker 1: of like a thing like to play. The younger players
Speaker 1: don't want to go to Hawaii. Like younger players. When
Speaker 1: we when we met with the p A and they
Speaker 1: talked about the Pro Bowl, where do you think that
Speaker 1: Where do you think the younger players wanted to play
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Vegas? Vegas? Okay, not not fifteen years ago?
Speaker 1: It's coming? Where where? Where? Where's the draft this year? Vegas?
Speaker 1: Five years ago if would have told you the Draft
Speaker 1: is gonna be in Vegas, you would have been like,
Speaker 1: no way. So so that potential is coming, but the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl has become Look, it's a different sport. It's
Speaker 1: it's not it's tackle football. It's not a baseball all
Speaker 1: star game where the potential for injury is not as
Speaker 1: as you know, it's not as great as what a
Speaker 1: football game is. So these guys are gonna play all out.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna you see guys that lose their you know,
Speaker 1: Luke make get injured in the Pro Bowl. That just
Speaker 1: doesn't I mean, who was the running back that played
Speaker 1: Robert Edwards, he played for New England. He ended his
Speaker 1: career not even in the Pro Bowl game. It was
Speaker 1: it was the Beach. It was in the Beach Game
Speaker 1: and he and he almost lost his leg. It's it's scary.
Speaker 1: And you look at guys that have gotten injured in
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and misstime. So the Pro Bowl, so
Speaker 1: what does the league do? They try to capitalize on
Speaker 1: the week between the Super Bowl and the championship games. UM,
Speaker 1: because from a ratings perspective, people are still in the
Speaker 1: mode of football. So they moved it to that week.
Speaker 1: They moved it to Orlando. So now it's it's not
Speaker 1: a as as far of a trip. I what the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl has become is now what they're doing this year,
Speaker 1: And they did it Sunday. They tested UM two rules right,
Speaker 1: and so the first rule was what Denver proposed last offseason,
Speaker 1: which is the fourth and fifteen in lieu of the
Speaker 1: onside kicks. So if you're gonna go on side rather
Speaker 1: than UM go on side. Because a couple of things
Speaker 1: on side kicks are there's a higher rate of injury
Speaker 1: and the success rate has gone down. The success rate
Speaker 1: has gone down, and so they want to go to
Speaker 1: a fourth and fifteen from the UM. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't love it. I don't know what you guys think.
Speaker 1: I just think, look, even if the onside kick is
Speaker 1: a and I know we talked about it on the show,
Speaker 1: it was I think I don't have the final numbers,
Speaker 1: but I think there were you know, maybe eight or
Speaker 1: nine successful onside kicks UM planned on side kicks this year,
Speaker 1: and the percentage, you know, was it was pretty low
Speaker 1: early in the season, less than four percent. It went
Speaker 1: up Historically it's been around thirteen. I think just the
Speaker 1: just the idea that the onside kick is there and
Speaker 1: the potential to be recovered and and to be successful
Speaker 1: keeps the game interesting and it and and it's not
Speaker 1: you know, I just fourth and fifteen from the from
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a safer play. You still have to
Speaker 1: get hurt. And it just feels like I don't just
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like football to me.
Speaker 1: To me, it just seems gimmicky, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: cool because it adds excitement and to the end of
Speaker 1: the game. But but it's like if you're what, what
Speaker 1: good is it if you have a twenty one point lead.
Speaker 1: You've worked your entired the entire game to build this lead,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, I can lose this
Speaker 1: lead in a in a fraction of a couple of
Speaker 1: seconds because because they put in this gimmick rule. And
Speaker 1: then you think about you think about just the complexity
Speaker 1: of it too, like what about fouls? What about you know?
Speaker 1: Now you there, you get a pass, an inference, and
Speaker 1: now it's a first town or a hold or an
Speaker 1: illegal contact and it's automatic first town, you know, offside,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta you're gonna you're gonna replay that down.
Speaker 1: If they don't make it, you're extending you're extending the game.
Speaker 1: I just again, I get it. I get why Denver
Speaker 1: is proposing this, and I know John Elway is a
Speaker 1: big proponent of this, and and and I have a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for John. I know John very well,
Speaker 1: and and he's on the competition. Can many I just
Speaker 1: don't think they support is there for this right now?
Speaker 1: We'll see the other rule, which we've been through this
Speaker 1: is they were going to not call false starts on
Speaker 1: flex receivers, So a wide out that flinches, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be leaning on that. And I get the reason why
Speaker 1: they You don't want a lot of pre snap fouls.
Speaker 1: You don't want a lot of those because there's no action.
Speaker 1: They delay the game, they increase the downtime. But to me, look,
Speaker 1: just hold your water. Don't false start if you fall,
Speaker 1: because now you're gonna relax on a receiver who flinches,
Speaker 1: and now the defense jumps, and you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: call it. You know, are you calling it on the
Speaker 1: receiver if the defense jumps, If the defense doesn't jump,
Speaker 1: you don't call it. There's it's very hard to be consistent.
Speaker 1: We've done this before and what we learned was it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. It just in my opinion, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: A false start is a false start, and you can't
Speaker 1: you can't kind of devalue the fact that the offense moved,
Speaker 1: and that can that can create an advantage, it can
Speaker 1: create a disadvantage. Um there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: can happen there, and I think that it's it would
Speaker 1: be a mistake to go forward with that in the
Speaker 1: in the regular season thoughts on that. No, nothing, you
Speaker 1: guys are just you guys, just I agree like you
Speaker 1: you definitely you definitely see to where it would would
Speaker 1: be a disadvantage to the defensive back who who sees
Speaker 1: the guy and then he's waiting for the call, but
Speaker 1: the call doesn't come and now he's looking at at
Speaker 1: the at the official. The guy goes past him and
Speaker 1: beats him for a touchdown. It's like the indoor football
Speaker 1: lead or whatever they go these ridiculous running starts. The
Speaker 1: Canadian football that is that that would be Canada. It's
Speaker 1: the it's the country that is north of the United States,
Speaker 1: whatever neighbors to the north, which the Yeah, they get
Speaker 1: that huge running stuff. Lovely people. I love Canadians. I've
Speaker 1: been You've never in Canada. I haven't want to go
Speaker 1: to Montreal, Montreal, Vancouver's great Edmonton' is awesome, beautiful when
Speaker 1: it egg Brandon Manito Um Travis knows way too much
Speaker 1: about Canada. But drinking age was eighteen and nineteen when
Speaker 1: I was in college in North Dakota. Swee drive not
Speaker 1: the code of things, all right. So that's the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Let's talk um a little UFC. You know, McGregor and Cowboy.
Speaker 1: What what do we think about that? I I have
Speaker 1: my I want to hear your guys take on that first,
Speaker 1: because I have my thoughts I have. I think I
Speaker 1: think it was fixed. I'm just gonna get I think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was fixed, but I do think
Speaker 1: it was as fixed a fight could be before the
Speaker 1: fight started. He was the perfect opponent. The reality is
Speaker 1: is that the UFC they need they need Connor to
Speaker 1: be relevant, not not they need Connor to be relevant. Okay,
Speaker 1: they don't need him necessarily to to go tennano in
Speaker 1: his next ten fights, but they need him to be relevant.
Speaker 1: And if he have lost that fight, his next fight
Speaker 1: he's no longer. That means his last win was against
Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez in two thousand what six team or whatever
Speaker 1: that was, he's going back away. So he has to
Speaker 1: be relevant. And I think Cowboy was the perfect opponent
Speaker 1: because he's he's a name, he's been one of the
Speaker 1: most successful fighters, one of the most exciting fighters. But
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a you know, a boxer when
Speaker 1: their button has been pushed too many times. His chin
Speaker 1: is gone, Like his chin is gone. He was going
Speaker 1: to go in with the mindset of when when. If
Speaker 1: I'm fighting Connor McGregor and I have any kind of
Speaker 1: a ground game, I'm gonna take him down, right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna could be. He showed like, I'll eventually get him
Speaker 1: to the ground and then he's in my world and
Speaker 1: he's a fish out of water. But Connor has got
Speaker 1: a better ground game the moment does He does have
Speaker 1: a better ground game than most people think. But with
Speaker 1: what Connor, you have to survive the first onsl You
Speaker 1: have to survive that first minute and a half two
Speaker 1: minute onslaught. And if you can survive that, then now
Speaker 1: it starts to tip in your in your favor. And
Speaker 1: you've seen it. You've seen it against Nick Nate Diaz,
Speaker 1: you've seen it obviously colbibe those longer fights, and so
Speaker 1: you survive that, and he is he's not that, he's
Speaker 1: not the same. But Cowboy was gonna go in and
Speaker 1: he was gonna stand. The thing that bothered me was,
Speaker 1: I don't know the shoulders, but the shoulder strike, Like,
Speaker 1: I get it, it's unexpected, but you know, I saw
Speaker 1: two I saw two different takes on it on the
Speaker 1: shoulder strikes. I I read Um. I saw Michael Bisping
Speaker 1: talk about it and he said, it's just an annoyance.
Speaker 1: He said, the shoulder strike is not It's like it's
Speaker 1: like a footstop. It's like stop what what stopped doing that?
Speaker 1: And then I saw Um ChIL Son and talk about
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't expect it and it was
Speaker 1: one of those like when you don't expect it, that
Speaker 1: can that can take you. And Chail said pointed out
Speaker 1: that Connor has like a bone that protrudes out of
Speaker 1: his shoulders. Yeah, is collar bone or whatever it is
Speaker 1: the classical I just it just didn't like it was
Speaker 1: it was. It was predetermined without being fixed that Connor
Speaker 1: was gonna win that fight. They just had the deck
Speaker 1: was stacked and because they needed to be relevant. And
Speaker 1: now it opens up all the possibilities. What what do
Speaker 1: you want to do? You want to do? And I
Speaker 1: love I mean I love na Das Nadaz was we
Speaker 1: as after the fight, he tweeted it out, I love
Speaker 1: Nate ds. Um. So you know, could you have a
Speaker 1: third fight fight with Nate do you know, Masvidor, which
Speaker 1: I think would be a mistake. Um, you know, you
Speaker 1: could have a rematch, which could be which I think
Speaker 1: will end the same way. But it just opens up
Speaker 1: all those doors. And that's why I think it was fixed.
Speaker 1: There's so much motive for that, for for Connor to
Speaker 1: win that fight. And and also the way I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen cowboy looking. He's good, he's a great fighter,
Speaker 1: and the way he lost that fight to me is
Speaker 1: just like the resisting hand was coming in. It's I
Speaker 1: don't think it was fixed. I don't think he took
Speaker 1: a dive. I just think it was. It was that
Speaker 1: was the opponent. It was the perfect opponent for him
Speaker 1: to come back have an impressive win over a guy
Speaker 1: like that, and now again the opportunities because he's the
Speaker 1: cash cow for the for the UFC. I agree with
Speaker 1: you on that, watching it not being like a huge
Speaker 1: UFC M M A guy like I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a cool fight. Like I didn't
Speaker 1: think for a second that was fixed. I've never even
Speaker 1: thought about it until you guys mentioned it now. So
Speaker 1: as as kind of an outsider to to watch, how
Speaker 1: many have you seen before that one? I don't think
Speaker 1: I've watched, so I don't know that. And Travis, if
Speaker 1: I if I grab you and hit you with my shoulder.
Speaker 1: How many times do you want to hit you with
Speaker 1: my shoulder before you move your head? Yeah, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: I probably want he is. I think he's done. I
Speaker 1: think he is. You look at his past. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the record was, but he's lost.
Speaker 1: He lost like something, you know, four out of his
Speaker 1: last five fights, whatever it is, he's been stopped in
Speaker 1: in in a couple of those. I think he's just
Speaker 1: it's time. You know, this guy has been through wars.
Speaker 1: This guy has been through wars. He kind of you
Speaker 1: know when you think about you think about a boxing equivalent,
Speaker 1: and I think about somebody like Arturo Gatti, you know,
Speaker 1: and you think about the wars that he has been,
Speaker 1: like Mickey Ward and those types of fights, and you
Speaker 1: just you can't. You can't do it. You know. If
Speaker 1: he had some of the nastiest knockouts too, man, he was.
Speaker 1: He's a great fighter, and he says he's still going.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just hope it doesn't turn out because
Speaker 1: I I don't know. Yeah, I Chuck seeing Chuck against
Speaker 1: Tito and that like he and and I get it,
Speaker 1: and meanwhile, that's a guy. Chuck Liddell's story you know,
Speaker 1: Chuck and Jake Glazer are close. I got to hang
Speaker 1: out with through Ja and got to know him, you
Speaker 1: know a little bit, and we went out. We went
Speaker 1: out one night in New York, me and Chuck and
Speaker 1: Jay and he's a Dodger fan, Chuck and I'm a
Speaker 1: Dodger fan. And it was the night that the Dodgers
Speaker 1: hit back to back to back to back home runs
Speaker 1: to win a game, okay, And it happened to be
Speaker 1: on at the bar we were at, and he punched
Speaker 1: me every time they hit a home run in the arm.
Speaker 1: And the first, the first one, he was the first
Speaker 1: one was like, they're they're coming back, and he punched
Speaker 1: me and it wasn't um. It was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the first one, and then the second one it was
Speaker 1: a little bit harder. And then they pit back to
Speaker 1: back to back home runs and the third one was
Speaker 1: like okay, how like that? No? That like really? And
Speaker 1: then they had another one and I was like I
Speaker 1: had to like get ready, like get in the position,
Speaker 1: and he p and I was like, you Dode stopped,
Speaker 1: like you knock people out. You're punching me in the arm.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to move tomorrow because you're
Speaker 1: an ass and but yeah, surprised Glazer wasn't hitting you
Speaker 1: on the other arm. Was the night we met Mickey
Speaker 1: Rourke And we met Mickey Rourke and I was sitting
Speaker 1: in a in a nightclub at three am with Chuck
Speaker 1: Ladell doing cartwheels on the dance floor, eating grilled cheese
Speaker 1: chance grilled cheese sandwiches, drinking mohitos with Mickey Rourke, Jay Glazer,
Speaker 1: and like three other random people I don't know who.
Speaker 1: They were so amazing. You can hear all about it.
Speaker 1: It sounds like Charlie Murphy. Yeah, exactly. Um, but let's
Speaker 1: talk about let's do a little life rule breakdown and so, Joe,
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about like celebrity like celebrity sightings
Speaker 1: and how do you what are the rules are and what?
Speaker 1: Because you were on a plane the other day, I
Speaker 1: was on I was on a plane and this was
Speaker 1: the question. I said, Hey, I'm sitting I'm sitting next
Speaker 1: to a I didn't say former player, but I said
Speaker 1: a guy who who's played for both I'm flying from
Speaker 1: Houston to l A and I'm sitting on the plane
Speaker 1: next to a guy that played for both the Rockets
Speaker 1: and the Lakers. Can you guess who it is? And
Speaker 1: and uh Scott who who works with us in the studios?
Speaker 1: He gets Trevor Reason, which is a good guest, but
Speaker 1: I said, not, it's a it's not a current player,
Speaker 1: it's a former player. And and then Joe guests big
Speaker 1: shot Rob So who's a legend. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: about that's one. He won championships with the Rockets and
Speaker 1: the Lakers. And but I didn't feel compelled to. I
Speaker 1: have a very high tolerance and so I'm not like
Speaker 1: Travis and um you know in media and whatever. But
Speaker 1: but I have a very high tolerance for for celebrities.
Speaker 1: And there's a very small list of celebrities that I
Speaker 1: would actually approach. Robert orri Well, I was a big fan, didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything to him. He's not that level.
Speaker 1: It's like Kobe to me, I didn't. I didn't say
Speaker 1: anthing that his Kobe, because your levels higher than my level.
Speaker 1: But at what level? At how many people? Let's come up, Joe,
Speaker 1: you have three people, that's it. You have three that
Speaker 1: if you see, you would go up to if though,
Speaker 1: if if you all you could have is three and
Speaker 1: I say, Joe, you're gonna meet these three people who
Speaker 1: are your three? Wow? A lot of pressure. That's um, well,
Speaker 1: I could tell you that when I was the super
Speaker 1: Bowl party. Then let me give you. Okay, well, let
Speaker 1: me give you. Let me give you a name, and
Speaker 1: you tell me yes or no, and then and then
Speaker 1: you can go into So if Christiano Ronaldo, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even know who he was. Okay, So so that's you're
Speaker 1: not you know, he's got the most Instagram followers of anyone.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything way, but okay, most famous I'm
Speaker 1: not a socer. Most famous athlete in Michael Jordan's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Michael Jordan's one. I think I would have. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we would all agree, and I and I would
Speaker 1: agree that Mike Jordan's would be definitely want. That's probably
Speaker 1: why he doesn't go out in public anywhere. I think
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's probably up there. Joe Rogan for me, I
Speaker 1: think I love Joe Rogan man, He's like the Oprah
Speaker 1: for dudes. I would I would. I would approach Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan because I feel like Joe Rogan and I have
Speaker 1: a lot in common, so we both don't stand up.
Speaker 1: We both host very successful and we've both been on TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we both like m M A. So I feel
Speaker 1: like me and Joe Rogan are are kind of you know,
Speaker 1: mine are differ Rogers. Yeah, mine are different. Like that
Speaker 1: whole Super Bowl week I was there. We saw every
Speaker 1: football player. I didn't say anything in any of them.
Speaker 1: Saw John Jones, Like I gotta say, did I gotta
Speaker 1: say something to John Jones. When I used to live
Speaker 1: in Malibu, we'd see actors all the time, didn't care.
Speaker 1: I saw Hicks and Gracie as sushi one time and
Speaker 1: about like, oh my god, that's Hicks and Gracie. So
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know who if you could pick
Speaker 1: three three like off the top of your head, who
Speaker 1: are the three that did you? Um? You know would
Speaker 1: have been Kobe for sure. Um, probably d C Man.
Speaker 1: I'm a big, big Daniel Cormier fan. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: we could good could introduce you to him at the studio.
Speaker 1: I think he's just a good Yeah. Okay for me,
Speaker 1: I gotta put some of the models that I loved
Speaker 1: as a kid, like Sidney Crawford in in Cathy Ireland, Like,
Speaker 1: but how do you do you even have to say
Speaker 1: to this. But like for me, it's like I have
Speaker 1: to have like a line if I can think of
Speaker 1: a line instantly, like I've I've met certain coaches and
Speaker 1: celebrities and things like there. There's if you have a
Speaker 1: line that you're like, Okay, I got a good one
Speaker 1: night with story. You told me a story. Who was
Speaker 1: it you had like a line you said something as
Speaker 1: somebody like corny line. Yeah, it was like Chuck. It
Speaker 1: was Chuck Pogano, I think. And he had coached the
Speaker 1: university ye and we went to school there and and
Speaker 1: he went through all the leukemia stuff. And I went
Speaker 1: to him and I said, you know, your your story
Speaker 1: really impactful. It really has touched me. I you know,
Speaker 1: I all the stuff you went through with your leukemia,
Speaker 1: but all of it you were able to live through.
Speaker 1: But you went through with the University of Wyoming and
Speaker 1: you played for the football or something like that. It was,
Speaker 1: it was it was much better delivered. Started he started
Speaker 1: laughing right away and said he's like, oh man, you
Speaker 1: must be from my own special needs kid that is
Speaker 1: coming up to me right now, Like what you actually
Speaker 1: I have my third one? Yeah, I don't I want
Speaker 1: to be there when when Joe meets Elon Musk, because
Speaker 1: that conversation is going to be like, oh my god. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of mine like I would certainly
Speaker 1: if Michael Jordan's I would say, he I Marvin Hagler
Speaker 1: would be one for me. I would love to meet
Speaker 1: Marvin Hagler. He was That's a guy that I, you know,
Speaker 1: have love for for forever. Um. I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: weird in that I want to meet George R. Martin,
Speaker 1: you know the Game of Thrones, like right, because I
Speaker 1: have so many questions for him because I've read the
Speaker 1: books and like, I'm kind of a geek when it
Speaker 1: comes to that stuff. And so I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about the show. I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about the show. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the books. When you're gonna finish the next book, was
Speaker 1: waiting since two for the next book, and just so
Speaker 1: many questions. Um, So I would definitely say something to him.
Speaker 1: And then I think I'm madly in love with Emma Uitt.
Speaker 1: She's a singer. She's from Australia, and she's not like
Speaker 1: she she did rock now she's like does like more.
Speaker 1: Um Electronic trance and I love her and I just
Speaker 1: have this fantasy that I meet her on a plane
Speaker 1: and we fall madly in love and I had to
Speaker 1: google her. So everybody else who's listening looking up. All right, So,
Speaker 1: so what are the actual rules to when you meet
Speaker 1: a celebrity, Like, what's the approach? I think if they're
Speaker 1: with their family, if eating dinner, you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: interrupt them. I don't if they're sitting, If they're sitting
Speaker 1: somewhere and they feel like they're not doing anything and
Speaker 1: you're not interrupting something. I would never approach anyone who's
Speaker 1: even if they're with somebody else and having dinner, I
Speaker 1: think that's rude. So they have to be alone rule
Speaker 1: number one. Alone or like not in the middle of something.
Speaker 1: Like I just for me, the one rule for me
Speaker 1: is just don't interrupt their dinner, like don't go up
Speaker 1: to them in a restaurant like you're trying to have
Speaker 1: you know. And again, you're a certain level of celebrity,
Speaker 1: you probably can't even do that. But um oh, the
Speaker 1: other person for me, Brad Pitt. I feel like Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt and I Bredt and I would be boys. No,
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and I would be boys. Brad, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it is like we would be would
Speaker 1: be like I'll be like, oh guys, hey, what No,
Speaker 1: Brad's BP. What's up dude? Yeah, and now I'm just
Speaker 1: doing the show. Yeah, coming to good Calls. I told
Speaker 1: you it's on. Can you can you put I'm doing
Speaker 1: my fake talk with Brad Pitt? Listen. No, it's good.
Speaker 1: That's on my heart radio. I told you you didn't
Speaker 1: just download it whatever. Yeah, you wanna oh you wanna
Speaker 1: get Yeah, let's go get some bears. All right? Cool, alright,
Speaker 1: as we go, we gotta hurry. All right. So there's
Speaker 1: the Brad Pitt call. I think the rules should be
Speaker 1: no creepiness with the ladies. Travis, Sorry, budd, Yeah that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But but Travis, I could see you being
Speaker 1: not trying to be creepy, but coming across is extremely creepy.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I would never approach him, but
Speaker 1: if I if no, but you'd make it like really awkward,
Speaker 1: but you'd be would be unintentional like you have you
Speaker 1: have you're you're like one of the most genuine nicest
Speaker 1: person like have such a good heart, but you would
Speaker 1: make it so creepy unintended. Why I would never say anything.
Speaker 1: I've learned as as I've gotten older, just like not
Speaker 1: approach or talk to those kind of people like Kobe
Speaker 1: was with his wife. There's Valentine's Day. I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess around like go and talk to him. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it just I just wouldn't have been right. All right,
Speaker 1: there's the rules. All right, let's take a break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll wrap up. We'll do Brandon Blandina.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about sequels. Watched the movie the
Speaker 1: other day and I think I think two is better
Speaker 1: than one. So we're gonna talk about that next on
Speaker 1: Good Calls. All right, we're back. I'm Good Calls. All right.
Speaker 1: So I was watching TV the other day and Waynes
Speaker 1: World two is on, and I watched a lot of movies,
Speaker 1: and O Joe doesn't watch movies. When do you have
Speaker 1: time to watch movies? Well, you know, when I relax
Speaker 1: at night and I decompressed, I just don't want to
Speaker 1: watch a movie. And so I really enjoyed Wayne's World two,
Speaker 1: and I just watched waynes World one, and I like
Speaker 1: waynes World one, but I think I enjoyed Wayne's World
Speaker 1: two more than Waynes World one, and I just I
Speaker 1: wanted to express that and share that with you guys
Speaker 1: and get your thoughts. I was a win Wayne's World
Speaker 1: one fan. I think I like that one better. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen the second one enough to say that it
Speaker 1: holds up as much as Joe. Joe I probably hasn't
Speaker 1: seen either. He's too busy doing whatever the heck he does.
Speaker 1: I think I've seen Wayne Wayns World once in high school.
Speaker 1: Maybe okay, he's too cool for school. But I just
Speaker 1: don't watch movies, so I think for me, Christopher Walking,
Speaker 1: I think Rob Low's grade and one, I think Christopher
Speaker 1: Walking is great. And two. Um, I Kim Basinger's in two.
Speaker 1: I love Kim Basinger. I think the scenes with her
Speaker 1: and Garth are hilarious. Um. Waynes World one does have
Speaker 1: a great scene with Alice Cooper when they go backstage
Speaker 1: and they talk about Milwaukee and he's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: come to Milwaukee off him and Alice Cooper gives him
Speaker 1: like a history lesson. He's like, Wow, the French settlers
Speaker 1: have comes to the six hundreds, mille Wauke, the good
Speaker 1: Land and so, but in two, I think there's just
Speaker 1: the scene that clinches it for me. Is that near
Speaker 1: the end when Wayne is trying to stop Cassandra's wedding
Speaker 1: to getting married to Christopher walking and he stops at
Speaker 1: this gas station and the gas station attended it's like
Speaker 1: an older guy, and he's like, where's the first Presbyterian
Speaker 1: church on Gordon Street? And the guy's like, Gordon Street,
Speaker 1: I once knew a girl and and on Gordon Street.
Speaker 1: And Wayne, like Mike Meyers, stops and he's like, really,
Speaker 1: can we I know this is a small part, but
Speaker 1: could we get a better actor? And they and they
Speaker 1: moved the guy out the way and then Charleston Charleton
Speaker 1: Heston comes out and like crushes it, like crushes the
Speaker 1: scene and he's like, oh my god. Um. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think maybe it's just I like
Speaker 1: Wayne's World and if I could come buy one and two,
Speaker 1: they're both good movies. You a Dressed as Wayne's World
Speaker 1: for Halloween? I did Addressed as Wayne. Thanks, well, it
Speaker 1: was only a couple of months ago. It's not that great.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's do some brand of blondina. Let's do
Speaker 1: a couple of Joe Caucasian rattlesnake. So we were okay,
Speaker 1: Caucasian rattles Like I was at dinner with I have
Speaker 1: a nine year old and a four year old. We
Speaker 1: went to dinner and so we play this game where
Speaker 1: you you you start with A and then you go
Speaker 1: around the table and you have to pick an animal
Speaker 1: that starts with the letter A and you keep going
Speaker 1: until you run out. So the person that if you
Speaker 1: can't guess and A, you lose, and then we go
Speaker 1: to B. So we were on C and we were
Speaker 1: running through all the season and Luca, my nine year old,
Speaker 1: he's like, Caucasian rattlesnake. I was like, not a thing,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it really is. Google it, and
Speaker 1: but all I can think of is like this rattlesnake
Speaker 1: that's wearing like this over his neck and he's wearing
Speaker 1: and he's wearing like docsiders and he's on a yacht.
Speaker 1: He hangs out with Travis. All I can picture rattlesnake
Speaker 1: why like rollers, like rollerblading and like so white like
Speaker 1: just that's all I can think of, like yachting. When
Speaker 1: you google Caucasian rattlesnake, white metal snake, I just he said, no,
Speaker 1: it's a thing, and so that's all. You couldn't come
Speaker 1: up with cow. No, we probably had gotten letter. We
Speaker 1: had gone through so many seas, like you go around
Speaker 1: the you go around the table, you can't get so
Speaker 1: he we were running out of seas and he said
Speaker 1: this Caucasian rattlesnake. And I had this vision in my head, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like doesn't against universal health care, Like I
Speaker 1: just said this whole thing. Yeah, it was like, you know, maga,
Speaker 1: it was just like just this rattlesnake in my head.
Speaker 1: But anyway, what a good one. I didn't know where
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with that? All right, do another one.
Speaker 1: Rick Springfield is kind of a dick. Yeah, no, so
Speaker 1: Rick Springfield. Now I definitely have to market so Rick Springfield.
Speaker 1: Rick Springfield's famous song is what uh the one give?
Speaker 1: You know? That's Rick Astley. You got Rick rolled? But no,
Speaker 1: it's Jesse's Girl. Okay, okay, so Jesse's Girl. I was
Speaker 1: listening to Jesse's Girl and I'm driving and I'm getting
Speaker 1: angry at Rick Springfield because listen to the lyrics, like
Speaker 1: he's a dick, Like listen the lyrics. I wish I
Speaker 1: had Jesse's girl okay, r he's his friend, okay, And
Speaker 1: he's fantasizing about his friend's girlfriend. And it's not like
Speaker 1: their relationship is bad. Like Jesse and the girl like
Speaker 1: they're in love. Jesse as a friend, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: he's been a good friend of mine, but lately something's changed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then God, and that ain't hard to define. Jesse's
Speaker 1: got it himself a girl, and I want to make
Speaker 1: her mind keep going, keep going, Travis, go go go,
Speaker 1: And she's watching him with those eyes. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: she's loving him with that body. I just say, Travis
Speaker 1: read lyrics, keep going. And he's holding in her arms
Speaker 1: late at night. You know, I wish that girl does
Speaker 1: that because that sounds like a bad relationship. Does that
Speaker 1: sound like anything wrong with their relationship? Love? And here
Speaker 1: he is like wishing that they break up and that
Speaker 1: he could be with Jesse's girl, Like, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it if they're in a bad relationship and
Speaker 1: he doesn't treat her well, and you're going to be
Speaker 1: the one that the white saver. But that's not like
Speaker 1: that's bullshit, is what. There's gotta be rules against dating
Speaker 1: your friends X. Yeah, we can talk about that. But
Speaker 1: still that to me and travel us. We are going
Speaker 1: to do that every show where you're going to read
Speaker 1: lyrics song lyrics. That is the funniest shit I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Give me, give me another one, Give me another one,
Speaker 1: another band of another song. Alright, one more. Guy in
Speaker 1: hoodie riding bike at four in the morning, Okay, tells
Speaker 1: you something about neighborhood. Not even about the neighborhood. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I saw a guy I was going to
Speaker 1: the airport. I forget where I was, but it's not important.
Speaker 1: The city is not important. The who the guy is,
Speaker 1: I don't care what what, black white Asian raid doesn't matter. Okay.
Speaker 1: The guy riding the BMX bike at four am is
Speaker 1: up to no good? Girln man, BMX pyramid peer period,
Speaker 1: pyramid perid. I saw this guy four him riding a
Speaker 1: BMX bike. And what is he doing? He's not dressed
Speaker 1: in like Peloton gear. No, no, it's a BMX bike.
Speaker 1: It's how old a grown man. It's stolen? Then right,
Speaker 1: he's there. You're doing it. On a second, he could
Speaker 1: have gotten a text w y D on my way. No,
Speaker 1: you're up to no good at that time. You could
Speaker 1: have been on Tinder swiping away. Finally got the level
Speaker 1: on the bike on the BMX. I have a friend
Speaker 1: whose boyfriend does not have a car. He rides his
Speaker 1: bike from Sills Beach. Is it a bike for a
Speaker 1: long distances and it's not rail sliding and things like
Speaker 1: it was not? No, you're up to no good. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's fair. So did you you saw
Speaker 1: this man? Yeah, I was going to the airport, forget
Speaker 1: where it was. I was driving and I saw this
Speaker 1: guy and I'm just like, he's not going anywhere productive,
Speaker 1: Like he's not doing anything that is going to help
Speaker 1: society in any way. That's how That's just that's just
Speaker 1: how I felt. That's what I deal. So the rule
Speaker 1: is you can't ride your BMX, Piet, No, you can.
Speaker 1: It's just your up to shady ship. Remember from No
Speaker 1: No Different I'm talking about. It's the bike is the
Speaker 1: key to remember, remember Ramber, great BMX movie. You know
Speaker 1: how many scenes are happening for you when we're riding
Speaker 1: their bikes. Thanks? All right, all right, all right, this
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