1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: Andy is on the phone today for our first day 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a girl named Serena. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we're gonna call her and 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting her and 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: maybe get him another date. But first, Andy, how long 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Serena? 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: It's been two weeks. 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 4: Have you been counting? 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? 12 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, that's so frustrating. Have you reached out to her? 13 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've reached out. I've I've sent her some texts 14 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: and stuff, But yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I haven't 15 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: heard anything back. 16 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 4: Why don't you go back and tell us about the date? 17 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 4: How did you meet her? 18 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 6: So we met him bumble, and we spent a few 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 6: weeks talking and facetiming before we actually met up the 20 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 6: first time. 21 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: So it's like, I feel like we got to know 22 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: each other a little bit. 23 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 6: We eventually planned to meet at a cafe that we 24 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 6: both are into, and we were going to do a 25 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 6: mike ride and drink slater and stuff, and I was 26 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 6: really excited to meet her in person, but he yeah, 27 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 6: she never ended up being able to show up. 28 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: Did not actually have the date? 29 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 6: No, actually, because about twenty minutes before I was you know, 30 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 6: I've been sending way to get the coffee shop, and 31 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 6: she sent me a text that her dog was sick 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 6: and something got sicked so she needed. 33 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: To take them to the vet. 34 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 6: And I never ended up happening, and I and I 35 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 6: was really excited, Like I ended up wearing a T shirt, 36 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 6: these plaid shorts and sneakers that she you know, she's 37 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 6: kind of like telling me to wear beforehand so that 38 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 6: she could find me. 39 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: But you know, I was I was happy, you. 40 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: Were happy, So she told you what to wear. You 41 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 5: guys planned this whole date. And then so her dog 42 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 5: got sick. Did she ever give you an update on 43 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 5: her dog? 44 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: Like what happened with that after that? 45 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 46 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: I haven't. I honestly haven't really heard. 47 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 6: So that's where, yeah, I'm trying to figure it out. 48 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: How did you respond to that text? 49 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 6: Cause oh, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah, no, when she's 50 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 6: sent me that, I that's okay. So I responded like 51 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 6: I just kind of said bummer, and I said, hope 52 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 6: your dog is okay, because I was. 53 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: I was really sad at the time, But I don't know. 54 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 6: I've looked back and I've read that text a million times, 55 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 6: and I feel like, maybe I maybe I wasn't a 56 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: little cold. 57 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: Would she have expected you to say more? 58 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: Maybe? 59 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Maybe? 60 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Uh, maybe I should offer to go with her. 61 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: So has anything happened then between that text message and 62 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 5: maybe all those face times? You know, like if you 63 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: were talking for the past couple of weeks, you kind 64 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: of start to build what is it about her that 65 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 5: makes you want to see her again? Like if this 66 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: girl just disappears, like, don't you kind of feel like 67 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: screw you? 68 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Then? 69 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean I think she's first of all beautiful, 70 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 6: and I felt like our personalities kind of balanced each 71 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 6: other out. And you know, she seems like she does 72 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 6: once and I'm happy to give that to her. 73 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: So okay, okay. 74 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: And so she just ghosted you basically for the date, 75 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: like she didn't show up and then hasn't responded to 76 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: you since, saying that she couldn't make it because her 77 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: dog was sick. 78 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: Right, And yeah, again, like I don't know if I 79 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 6: just responded wrong at the time, it wasn't you know, nice. 80 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: Enough, but hopefully hopefully we can get it worked out. 81 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 4: What if, like something really bad happened to her dog. 82 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: That's also a concern of mine too. 83 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, would I be mad at a bummer? 84 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: I think if somebody responds bummer if your dog sick, 85 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: I mean maybe I would have been like, Okay. 86 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, you know, maybe that's what she's like. Bummer 87 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: is more than a bummer? 88 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Maybe? All right, Andy, Well we'll try to figure 89 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 4: it out. 90 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: We'll play a song and then come back and call 91 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting 92 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: you and maybe get you another date. 93 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you. 94 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: All right, we'll get your first day follow up next. 95 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: Right in the middle of today's first date follow up, 96 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: if you're just. 97 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Joining us, Andy is on the phone and he's getting 98 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: ghosted by Serena. So in a second we're going to 99 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: call her and see if she'll tell us why she's 100 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: ghosting him and maybe get him another date. But first, Andy, 101 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: why don't you catch everybody up on your situation? 102 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I met Serena on Bumble. 103 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: We've spent a few weeks talking facetiming before we finally 104 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 7: met or plans to meet up in person. And then 105 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 7: during that time, you know, I wore a T shirt, 106 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 7: plaid shorts, white shoes that she told me to pick out. 107 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 7: I was waiting for her and I got a text 108 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 7: said her dog was stick and that she need taken 109 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 7: to the vet. 110 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: So the date never happened, and I haven't heard from 111 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: her sex. 112 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: And it might be because he responded, bummer, All right, Andy, 113 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: are you ready to call her? 114 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 115 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, man speak to Serena. 116 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Please m. 117 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi Serena. My name is Jewbell. I host so 118 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Rato show. It's called the Jewbel Show. Hi, Serena, I'm Nina. 119 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: The whole show's here. Hi, and I'm Victoria. 120 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: How are you. 121 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: Hi? I'm good. 122 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: We're calling you today because we got an email about 123 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: you from somebody who listens to the show and they 124 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: wanted us to call you. Okay, So we do a 125 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: segment on the show. It's called the first Date follow Up. 126 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: What that is is if you go out on a 127 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: date with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, 128 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 4: they can ask us to get you on the phone 129 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: and ask why you're them. So a dude named Andy 130 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: emailed us. He told us about your date. Well, the 131 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: date that didn't happen, and then asked if we could 132 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: call you and ask why are you ghosted him? 133 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Wow, that's really cute. You know, he's that far to 134 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: see what happened, so. 135 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: You think it's cute. Is your dog? Okay? 136 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't. He's just not what I thought 137 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: he would be. 138 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: And uh, the dog, no, Andy, Andie, do you have 139 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: a dog? 140 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Even? Whoa? I mean we chatted for a while in 141 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: a bumble. It was nice getting to know him. Yeah, 142 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and he also like, I actually don't have a dog. 143 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: I figured that's where it was going. 144 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I walked up to go to the 145 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: date they we didn't go on, I saw him sitting 146 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: there like a puppy dog. He had like a rose 147 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: and some dirty white sneakers, and I'm just like, I'm 148 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: not busy, but Helena keeps up the sneakers just kind 149 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: of shays a. 150 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: Lot, you know, So it's the dirty shoes. 151 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't know, just it wasn't. He didn't 152 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: look like he did any pictures. 153 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: Wait, but he had a rose there, yeah, but he 154 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: just like I was just sitting. 155 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: There like a like a bad puppy dog. 156 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: Like it just like, I don't know, you felt like 157 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: you could bulldozehim. I mean sometimes sometimes that's sometimes that's 158 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: the thing. I mean it sounds a little shallow, but 159 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: sometimes you know, if you're gonna like be too much 160 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: for somebody. 161 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if I did have a dog and he 162 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: replied a bummers or your dogs like come on, okay. 163 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: So it was because he was sitting like a puppy 164 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: dog and he had dirty sneakers. Oh so what did 165 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 5: dirty sneaker say about him? 166 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: Man to you? 167 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's the first day. If you 168 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: can't like see in your shoes or. 169 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: Like wear some like, come on, like was it a nice, 170 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: like fancy restaurant that you were going to. 171 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't a fatty restaurant. It was just 172 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: like a caffe. But still, come on, like, come on, 173 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: just at least wash your shoes or buy a new 174 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: pair on the first feet. 175 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: I get presenting yourself nicely. I wouldn't And we don't 176 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: have to go as far as buy new shoes, but 177 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: I mean keeping them, you know, do you think about that? 178 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: I do. I try not to wear dirty shoes if 179 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: I go places. But also yeah, but I'm one of 180 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: those people that always wants, you know, tries to clean 181 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: my shoes and stuff too. Right, some people don't care though, 182 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: I mean. 183 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Well I cared, and I was just sitting there with 184 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: like a rose, like not even like a bookcase of 185 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: like a rose. Now it's really wimpy, you know. 186 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Well okay, well, thank you for telling us. And now, Serena, 187 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I'll let you know that Andy is actually on the 188 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: phone listening and wants to talk to you. 189 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: What say, I'm a whimp because I have dirty shoes 190 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: and a rose. You lied about having a sick dog. 191 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean. 192 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: I was wearing when you told me to wear. I 193 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: didn't tell you to wear dirty shoes. 194 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: And you know, come on, first impressions or kind of 195 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: big Well, I went out and. 196 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 6: Bought a new shirt and plaid shorts because I didn't 197 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 6: have any I wasn't thinking about my shoes. 198 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 199 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's a bummer. 200 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: So you so you saw me sitting there, and instead 201 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: of coming up to me and saying anything. 202 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 6: Like an adult, you just walked away and hid lied 203 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 6: about having a dog that was sick, and you're saying 204 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 6: that I'm aware, yeah, I mean a little bit. 205 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: And you don't even look like your pictures, so. 206 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: You know what, you didn't look like your pictures either. 207 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: You didn't look evil. 208 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think that was the appropriate time to ask Serena, 209 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: would you like to go on another day with Andy? 210 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: We'll pay for it. 211 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: No, thank you, no. 212 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: Good luck, though I wish you the best. 213 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: Candy, somebody's gonna appreciate your rose. 214 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 3: Thank you. I think I'm dodging a bullet, you know what. 215 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 6: Well, I'll pay attention to if you ever do end 216 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 6: up getting a dog, and I'm gonna call a spc 217 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 6: I on you, because yeah, you shouldn't be owning an animals. 218 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: Jubile's first Date follow up