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Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome to Woke a f with me Danielle Moody.

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Speaker 1: As you may already know from my social media platforms

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Speaker 1: at D two cents or from listening to previous woke

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Speaker 1: AF episodes, I want to bring you conversations that give

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Speaker 1: you the tools to embody wokeness in all aspects of

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Speaker 1: your life. This week, I'm bringing you insightful taste from

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Speaker 1: amazing conversations that I had with two inspiring black women

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Speaker 1: on Monday's edition of woke AF Daily, which you can

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Speaker 1: hear right now at patreon dot com slash woke AF.

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Speaker 1: I shared my full conversation with Black entertainment lawyer extraordinaire

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Speaker 1: Marcy Cleary. Take a listen to her valuable insight into

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Speaker 1: how black creators can get their work off the ground

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Speaker 1: and protect their ownership of it while still sharing their

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Speaker 1: vision with peers and mentors. What advice, Marcy, do you

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Speaker 1: have for people that are are ready to take a risk,

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Speaker 1: that are ready to you know they have a great idea,

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Speaker 1: and you know a part of them is just like,

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Speaker 1: do I pitch this idea? I'm scared because I don't

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Speaker 1: want it. I don't want to get it stolen right,

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Speaker 1: but they're ready for the risk. How would you explain

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Speaker 1: to them how they begin to navigate this massive industry. No,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question because everybody asks it, like because

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Speaker 1: everybody's nervous because that's their baby, right to put their

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Speaker 1: baby out in the world, and somebody not kidnap, kidnap

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Speaker 1: the baby, right, right. I would say basic rules is

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Speaker 1: if you have a finished script, like a full script,

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Speaker 1: copywriter registered with the copyright Office before you send it out,

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Speaker 1: you can protect it's the unique it's the expression of

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Speaker 1: a unique idea. So the expression is I'm saying you

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Speaker 1: got a full script, like something written out, like you

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Speaker 1: don't just have a notepath that says, oh, we have

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Speaker 1: this character Danyale in Brooklyn. That's not protectable, right, it's

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Speaker 1: not unique and it's not fully thought out. But if

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Speaker 1: you have a whole twenty page, thirty page, forty page

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Speaker 1: script about Danielle in Brooklyn, Okay, you got here ideas there.

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Speaker 1: So I always say, if you have a script, will

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Speaker 1: copy richiar with Copyright Office. It costs maybe sixty five

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Speaker 1: dollars to do so, right, that's easy. But don't go

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Speaker 1: around having people sign in DA's non disclosure agreements before

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Speaker 1: you send it. That's a turn off. So some folks

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Speaker 1: will say, oh, well before you review it, can you

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Speaker 1: please sign this nondisclosure. Well, I'm not gonna tell Oprah

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Speaker 1: she can't look at my script before she signed something. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's a place. Right. So you also just got to

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Speaker 1: trust who you're sharing your material with, right, and know

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Speaker 1: that that person is not gonna take the risk. Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you sharing yourself with somebody you scare gonna take

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Speaker 1: you know it's gonna show up on television next year,

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Speaker 1: then that's not the person. Yeah, it's somebody you gotta trust.

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Speaker 1: But the basis of its copyrighted, Have it written down,

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Speaker 1: have it is thought out as possile before you share.

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Speaker 1: Because it's easy to just take a sketch idea. Anybody

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Speaker 1: can have a similar idea and make it better. And

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know how to protect you man, got it?

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Speaker 1: Got it? No, that's really important. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear all of these horror stories and then you

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Speaker 1: something that's great because they're afraid. Yeah, and so I

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Speaker 1: think that there's this this part of needing to let

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Speaker 1: go of fear. Really, like, this really is in the industry, right,

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Speaker 1: It's not the industry for fear and fear of rejection too.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge one, you know, Like I would say,

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Speaker 1: my clients are tougher than I am because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear no fifty thousand times before you get that one yes,

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Speaker 1: and all you need is a one yes. But you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to tweak it a lot. Everybody's gonna give

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Speaker 1: you notes, you know, like for a long time before

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Speaker 1: it becomes great. But that's art. Yeah. Well, Marci, you

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Speaker 1: are champion in a whole field of black content creators.

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Speaker 1: And I pray that this is not just a moment,

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Speaker 1: as I say, but it is a movement of you know,

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Speaker 1: us changing this industry from all different aspects of it

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Speaker 1: because I feel like when we own things, you know,

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Speaker 1: then we create the path that other folks can follow.

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Speaker 1: You know what else is crucial, Danielle is sharing information. Right.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you the reason why other folks have

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Speaker 1: have role models of like this is what you do,

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Speaker 1: this is what you don't do. Right, So I would say, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's great, everybody's building, era's getting their deals,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta talk to each other and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: are you agreeing to this much like this amount of money? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Like share information. Don't be so private and it's hard

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Speaker 1: because you know you win, and you don't want to

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Speaker 1: about the winds. But that's just as important because that's

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Speaker 1: how we build, that's how we learn, right, and that's

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Speaker 1: how we grow. And I think that's also is what

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Speaker 1: creates the sustainability. That's why I have in the Macros

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Speaker 1: and the Spree Hills is so important because they're sharing

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Speaker 1: information amongst a community. So that's crucial too. It is crucial.

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Speaker 1: Marcy Cleary, I'm so happy that you came on woke

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Speaker 1: f to talk to us about this new world. It's

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Speaker 1: not it's not new, but I think that I think

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Speaker 1: what it's new and exciting about it is that I

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Speaker 1: just want to see more beautiful black stars. That's what

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Speaker 1: I want to see. I want to see. I want

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Speaker 1: to see as EASTERI said, I want to see us win,

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Speaker 1: and it's wonderful to know that we are. There are

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Speaker 1: people like yourself who have our back right and then

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Speaker 1: can usher us through. Thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: on woke f appreciate you. Thank you. Whatever our role

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Speaker 1: is on this earth, be it creating, leading, serving, we

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Speaker 1: all need to make spaces in our lives for ritual

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Speaker 1: and self preservation. I was so happy in honor to

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Speaker 1: be joined by my spiritual big sister ricikat Okay Day

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Speaker 1: on this week's Feel Good Friday edition of Woke af

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Speaker 1: Daily to tell us what self preservation and ritual really mean,

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Speaker 1: how they're different from what we call self care and habits,

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Speaker 1: and how we can put them into practice in our

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Speaker 1: everyday lives. What have you noticed over the past year

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Speaker 1: receive as we are moving through this multiple pandemics, right,

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Speaker 1: how to manifest ourselves in this new normal space, and

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Speaker 1: so what have you found in terms of the way

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Speaker 1: of people I haven't been doing it, don't know how

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Speaker 1: while yeah, I make tea blends and you know, I

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Speaker 1: New Moon rituals. That was there was there was a

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Speaker 1: and why is this happening? And in order to address, like,

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Speaker 1: literally at the basis tree like all right, come on,

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Speaker 1: you can come down now, not know and it's like no,

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Speaker 1: but you can really come down. It's okay. What happens

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Speaker 1: been doing our due diligence when it came to our

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Speaker 1: self preservation. And don't I don't like the term self

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Speaker 1: care because it can you know, for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: backrubs come in and that's not really what self care

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Speaker 1: is about. It really is asking you to preserve the self.

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Speaker 1: And that looks like you know, meditation for others. That

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Speaker 1: looks like you know, turning off Twitter for some And

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Speaker 1: really start delving in too, like you have to find

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Speaker 1: For some it's a way to fill the void. And

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Speaker 1: And folks are finding that they actually like it. Like

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Speaker 1: And people are like, yo, this way of living is

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Speaker 1: not ideal because we didn't expect it. But it's teaching

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Speaker 1: that's important for how we develop and show up in

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Speaker 1: And some of us, let's be honest, we live in spaces,

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Speaker 1: We operate in spaces. Our soul contracts require us to

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