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Speaker 1: Her name is Robin Arzon, and she is I know

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Speaker 2: Go New York, Go, New York Go.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever ever felt the electricity in this city

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Speaker 1: When I moved to New York, I remembered thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: And watching us now is beyond all of the things.

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Speaker 1: Seeing a Wall Street dude in a Patagonia vest high

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, let's talk about you because I selected

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Speaker 2: you know, the following year, and with the acute stresses

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Speaker 2: of law school, it was like, yeah, it was just

435
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Speaker 2: too much. It was just going to break. And that's

436
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: when I started incorporating running and movement became enough of

437
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: a pressure release for me to start to process it.

438
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Speaker 2: And I remember just having flashes of the experience like

439
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: I'd be you know, running and I started very slowly

440
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Speaker 2: running during law school, but I would be on these

441
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Speaker 2: runs and I would just have flashes of the experience

442
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: and like, wow, I didn't even remember that, and I

443
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: just had to befriend myself. And I was really aware

444
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: that I didn't something wrong happened to me. But I

445
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 2: didn't want to become this my primary identity as a victim.

446
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: Like I just couldn't do it.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you ran. Now, you weren't an athlete, so

448
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: running wasn't your bag, but you started.

449
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: You ran what a little bit? And then I ran

450
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: to school, you know, my apartment to the law school campus,

451
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: and then I did a ten k and almost didn't finish,

452
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: and I was wearing like kids. I mean, it was

453
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: all just storious. The fact that I do this for

454
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Speaker 2: a living is a joke. Like I didn't know what

455
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Speaker 2: I was doing at the end. You ran what twenty

456
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Speaker 2: plus marathons? Yes, twenty seven marathons twenty twenty seven November

457
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Speaker 2: New York City. Will be running another one not even

458
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Speaker 2: done my day ninth New York City Marathon.

459
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Speaker 1: Girl, I thought that was a chapter in the past.

460
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Speaker 1: You're still running marathons.

461
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't done it in five years.

462
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Speaker 2: I haven't done it since my daughter was nine months old.

463
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Speaker 2: And I kind of you know, I don't believe. I

464
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: think that we can evolve into all different chapters. Right.

465
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I have to run a marathon every

466
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Speaker 2: year to prove anything. But I started to crave it again.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah you did. Yeah, So tell me about that.

468
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Speaker 1: Once you've accomplished and accomplished it again and again and again,

469
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Speaker 1: what gives you that itch to do it?

470
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Speaker 2: Like, what's the motivation? I think that there is specifically

471
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Speaker 2: with endurance marathons ultra marathons, and I'm sure any endurance

472
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: athlete of any kind, well, we'll understand what I'm saying.

473
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Speaker 2: There's like a there's like a I mean, this might

474
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Speaker 2: be this does gonna sound really intense. There's kind of

475
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Speaker 2: like a spiritual reckoning that happens when you're in that

476
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: and you just have to face yourself and for better

477
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: or for worse. Usually for better those experiences heal me,

478
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: push me, heal me. Yeah. So I'm going back into

479
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Speaker 2: the ring. By the way, that's pretty beautiful. Tell me

480
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: about the spiritual piece of it, because that's huge. You

481
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: don't run from yourself talk Yeah, and then usually I

482
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: have this this the arc is like I'm feeling so good,

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm feeling so good, and then physically it's like I'm

484
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: feeling so bad. And then you start thinking, you know,

485
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: then you start tuning, you know, trying to distract and

486
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: whether it's a song or whether it's a mantra, and

487
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: that only goes so far, and then you get into

488
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Speaker 2: your self talk. And then then for me, I've done

489
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: it enough times where I start to unpack myself talk

490
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Speaker 2: and sometimes like this persistent inner critic comes up and

491
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: usually my catharsis through that becomes some kind of like

492
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Speaker 2: spiritual like then it's like my self talk isn't to me,

493
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: it's kind of like to this broader spiritual conversation. And

494
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying every ten mile run ends

495
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: with this like, but you know, but when you're a

496
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: lot of times it does. Right.

497
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Speaker 1: It's not physical anymore, it's not emotional anymore. It's more

498
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Speaker 1: it's more than all.

499
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Speaker 2: It's like a metaphysical thing for me.

500
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: So corporate law, yay, look at you. You did all

501
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: the things, and you're like, you know what, I don't think. So,

502
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Speaker 1: I mean, we talk.

503
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: About repotting here a lot.

504
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: It's like you your roots are in deep and all

505
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're going to yank yourself up. Your

506
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: roots are up in the air going, oh crap, man,

507
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I need am I going to die up here? And

508
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: then you get put in this mineral rich soil, which is.

509
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Speaker 2: Where you landed. Why did you pull yourself out of

510
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: corporate law? And tell me about how you landed? Oh,

511
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: my beautiful analogy. I called networking planning seeds because that

512
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: felt better than like going to a happy hour and

513
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: like pestering people and telling them about business. But yes,

514
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: during that period, I was slowly but consistently getting uncomfortable

515
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: in these races and falling in love with running. And

516
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: I was also part of a community where I call

517
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Speaker 2: them like they were called. They were called the New

518
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: York City Bridge Runners. They still gather in downtown New

519
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: York and it was just a group of misfits, right

520
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: like DJs and artists and graffiti artists and folks who

521
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: are just maybe not considered your typical athlete, and they were.

522
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Speaker 2: They really introduced me to the running world in a

523
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: way that was unconventional, and I was like, oh, I

524
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: can do this. I can do unconventional And that allowed

525
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: me to start to write a story that was so

526
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: unexpected even to me, and I thought, okay. I was

527
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: noticing that brands like Nike and Adidas were you know,

528
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: working with a lot of the New York City Bridge

529
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: runners and a lot of these athletes for campaigns, and

530
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's a story here. Not only

531
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: is there a story here, there's a commercial appetite for

532
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: this point of view in movement. So I started. I

533
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: had a tumbler initially, and then you know, it was

534
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: blogging and doing like you know, freelance, little articles and

535
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: things for whatever publication would take me. And then it

536
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: started becoming branded work. And that was when influencer marketing

537
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: was kind of starting to become a thing within the

538
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: marketing canon. And I was very grateful to be a

539
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: part of it because once I started being able to

540
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: pay my rent with things that I loved, namely running

541
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: and talking about running and taking photos running, it became

542
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: an entry point into a brand new life. And it

543
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: wasn't scary to leave law behind. Terrifying, Yeah, it was terrifying,

544
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: and coming from a what are we going to keep

545
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: in background, coming from an immigrant background my mother is

546
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: a Cuban refugee, they were both super supportive and also

547
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: like are you insane, like, do you know what our

548
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: family has given up for you to have a steady anything?

549
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: And I promised them I've never asked them for a dime.

550
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: And I made good on that promise, and it was

551
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: there were a lot of leaps of faith though. Like

552
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: I remember two weeks before the London Olympic Games in

553
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, I had quit my law job and I

554
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: made these little, tiny, these little tiny cards with my

555
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: one of my Instagram photos, my Instagram handle, my phone number,

556
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: and my email. And I thought, I don't even know

557
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: who I'm gonna give these two, but these little business

558
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: cards I'm just gonna put in my back pocket. And

559
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: I was in a Nike store and Mark Parker, former

560
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: CEO of Nike, walks in and said, hey, you have

561
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: great style. You should you should do something with that.

562
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: And I was like, funny, you ask wait, what are

563
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: you talking about? And then I gave my business card

564
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: and then and then a few weeks later, I got

565
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: a call from an agency running Nike women, like like

566
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: the naked women was their client, right, And I got

567
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: a job from the marketing agency to work with nake women.

568
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: So you went to the Olympics, I went, I slept

569
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: on my friend's couch for three weeks. You went, and

570
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: I went, and I talked to athletes who now you know,

571
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I know and are my friends. But it was like

572
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: I was just thirsty to be around it. I would

573
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: just want I just knew I had to be there the.

574
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Way, just that showing up, Like showing up is half

575
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: of everything. The fact that you had little business cards

576
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: in your pocket you went to the Nike store. I mean,

577
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen in your apartment. You know you

578
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 1: nothing is going to happen, So you knew that you

579
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: were on the right path. So Peloton comes from where

580
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: in this equation.

581
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Read about Peloton? And I had done a vision board

582
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: earlier that year. So I basically I left the agency

583
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: job because I realized, Oh, after about six months, I

584
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: realized I love storytelling around movement, especially like a female

585
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: in an urban environment's point of view. But I wasn't

586
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: seeing myself in that story. It's like, this still feels

587
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: divorce from what I'm experiencing. And I knew that I

588
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: wanted to be the one participating in the storytelling directly,

589
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: not like through somebody else's Twitter account or whatever. And

590
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: even if it's an established brand, so I had more

591
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: time in my hands. I quit the agency job, which

592
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: actually was scarier than quitting the law job because I

593
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: thought I found my perfect job and then now realizing

594
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: that it's quick succession that it's not the perfect job,

595
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, am I just going

596
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: to be this listless like person who can't keep a career.

597
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: And it was interesting because there was no It wasn't

598
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: like I had this lockstep vision, like I just had

599
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: to get into this sexne wrong of the ladder, like

600
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even see the ladder. You're just creating it

601
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: out of thin air based on values and gut instinct

602
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: like put and gut instinct at like twenty eight years old,

603
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: like in the world. So that felt very untethered, and

604
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: I read about I had done a vision board, which

605
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: is part of one of the things that I do

606
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: when I'm feeling untethered. It's just like, let's try to

607
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: grab on to a word, a feeling, a noun, a herb,

608
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: something that will help me feel like I'm crystallizing the vision.

609
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: And in the business quadrant of the vision board, I

610
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: had a picture of a little Apple computer and I

611
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: put disruptive storytelling, and I didn't know, like really what

612
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: that even meant. But then I read the article about

613
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: Peloton and it was like, this is going to be

614
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Connected Bike and they were going to try to be

615
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: global based in New York City. And I was like,

616
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: this sounds like nan because I had been teaching at

617
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: a local spin studio simply because I was bored, Like

618
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have too much time in

619
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: my day. I just need to do something with this.

620
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: So I was teaching at a local spin studio called

621
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: Revolving Union Square, which is still there, so darling. But

622
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: I sent a cold email to the company and to Peloton,

623
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: I sent it was info at Peloton cycle dot com

624
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: and I sent a cold email, and I was I

625
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: was brought in for an audition and I had a

626
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: contract by that Friday.

627
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: By the way, your whole just your path. If anyone's

628
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: listening and thinking I don't know what to do, and

629
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: you just start to do things, it doesn't the visions

630
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: bloring just show up. Try I mean sending a cold

631
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: email without having any connection and winding up where you are,

632
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: so you you hit all these notes, you wind up

633
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: at this place, so you are in so many places.

634
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I see you on Good Morning America, I see you here,

635
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: I see you there. So when were you or when

636
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: are when are you the most joyful? Like, because sometimes

637
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: some of the most successful people I know are the

638
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: least joyful. They're like, you know, they're always mad about something,

639
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: something happened to their million dollar mansion.

640
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: They're mad. Everybody's mad. It's like when for you was

641
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: that or is that time? Okay? It's probably I can

642
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: think of two examples from justice morning, and they're very different.

643
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: The first being in a what I call like the

644
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: bubble of my apartment with my kids and my family,

645
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: like having little moments where you know, they're a little

646
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: too quiet. I have a five year old and a

647
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: three year old. There were when kids are When young

648
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: kids are quiet, it's probably bad, Okay, they're probably like

649
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: writing with marker on your wall.

650
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Ye.

651
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: So I walk into the room and they're reading, They're

652
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: like pouring over a book together. They're literally my daughter

653
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: is reading and I say that in the air quotes which

654
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: is just starting to read to my son, And I

655
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: was like, and I like just back pedaled out of there,

656
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: like do you that's amazing? So glimmers like that, like

657
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: just joy, like wow. And then the other side of

658
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: it is it a sixty minute hit run with Bex

659
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: on the Peloton tread and you know, for the first

660
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: time in a long time, was able to max out

661
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: the speed on the tread for a rent, which is

662
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: super super fast for me. And I thought, oh my gosh,

663
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: like that's joy, Like my body can do that, Like

664
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: there were so many moments in my life when I

665
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 2: never thought that was even physically possible, possible. And so

666
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: there's the joy that is through discomfort, and then there's

667
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: the joy that I try to be super present as

668
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: it relates to my family.

669
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: Can we talk about just quickly your husband and kids?

670
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: You met your husband? How many days did you, guys

671
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: know when days? And then that was it?

672
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Was? It? Come on, how I met ten years ago

673
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: this past May?

674
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: But how did you, like tell me what happened in

675
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: those three days that you had the certainty? Because now

676
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: they say you got to find out about this, you

677
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: got to find out there's like a million things. Some

678
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: a friend once told me you have to go through

679
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: four seasons so you can see what they're like and stress.

680
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: How come three days was enough?

681
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: I was probably older by the standard of most dating.

682
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: I was in my mid thirties and I had gone

683
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 2: through this period where I was finally feeling some flow,

684
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: you know, on the professional end. I felt like I

685
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: had landed at Peloton, written my first book, you know,

686
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: New York Times bestseller all that, and I was just

687
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: like praying when I say, like on my knees, praying

688
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: like where is he? And then I had to like

689
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: loosen the reins on that, and I was like, fine,

690
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: I was going to try to become who I would

691
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: date and try to become I'm going to try to

692
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: become who I would date, like just fall in love,

693
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: romanticize the little things, right like the cup of tea,

694
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: the you know, you just have to like romanticize your life.

695
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm so into that. And the accidental meeting of my husband,

696
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, my girlfriend Lynette was like, hey, let's go out,

697
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: and I don't drink. I don't even want to be

698
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: out past nine pm, so much rather be in bed.

699
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, girl, fine, I'll maybe even

700
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: these village and so we go out. My husband walks

701
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: into the bar and he's he said, everybody else looked

702
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: like they were in black and white, and I was

703
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: in technicolor, and it was just truly like this lightning feeling, like,

704
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's him. Like I my pupils were

705
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: just focused on this man. And we had a date

706
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: the following day, and then he takes me on Saturday

707
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: to Proposal Bridge in Central Park. He's like, you know,

708
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: people get engaged in and I was like ha ha ha okay.

709
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: And then the next morning he woke up when he

710
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: got a ring. Are you kidding me right now? No? No,

711
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: that was ten years ago. Were you when he proposed?

712
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: Was it an easy yes? Yes? I said yes. Immediately

713
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, let's do this, let's go, let's

714
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: rock okay, because I was so certain. We were both

715
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: so certain, and I we are both very spiritual people.

716
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: We believe that we had past lives together. And then

717
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: we realized all these connections, all these things and all

718
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: these beliefs that like you know, he was sharing and

719
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: I was sharing that we had never really uttered to

720
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: other people, and we were like, wow, we're really I mean,

721
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: the synergy just like beyond magic, yeah, you know. And

722
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: then of course there's tons of practical elements. I totally

723
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: get like four seasons with someone that's very practical. We

724
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: were kind of just like, we're all in and then

725
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: we're going to build on top of that.

726
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Well, you don't live your life in a practical way,

727
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: which is why you are where you are in terms

728
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: of the success your kids having children. Was that something

729
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: you had dreamt of? Was that something you struggled to do?

730
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: Did it come easy? Tell me it was a dream.

731
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Drew and I had frozen embryos. You know,

732
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: we met and I was already in my late thirties

733
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: when we really were like, okay, this is you know,

734
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: we met and had we had this whirlwind romance and

735
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: then like two years later we had a wedding in

736
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: front of my family and so then things kind of

737
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: took a more traditional timeline. So we froze embryos, and

738
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: it was during the pandemic that I was like, all right,

739
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: let's just do this, let's let's just try. Yeah, and thankfully,

740
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, Athena was able to come to the world

741
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: super healthy. She was born three weeks early, and so

742
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: that was that was scary. I actually just told her,

743
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: I just shared with her the story. So Beyonce's song

744
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Love on Top was the song that I would play

745
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: with her, play for her while she was in utero

746
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: with the little headphones that you put on somebody's belly,

747
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: and she didn't move one morning, like she didn't respond,

748
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: and it was immediately to the doctor and they did

749
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: an ultrasound there like yeah, she's she looks like she's okay,

750
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: but you're actually contracting and she's not doing well with

751
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: the contraction. I was like, I'm acting like all first

752
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: time pregnanty. I didn't know what I was doing. And

753
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: the doctor looks at my husband and he said, today

754
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: seems like a good day to have a baby, and

755
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: he looked like the road Runner, you know those old

756
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: school cartoons where the eyeballs roll onto the floor. That

757
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: was my husband. So we had a baby that day.

758
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: We didn't even have his wallet. So we were going

759
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: to like brunch like we didn't know what nothing. God

760
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: Beyonce love on top and for the perception, yeah yeah.

761
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: And then the testing that they did later, they were like, no,

762
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: that was probably had like a twelve hours to like

763
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: make that trust.

764
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, God, it was very serious. Okay, So

765
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: Athena came did you want another child? Quickly after?

766
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I wanted them to be within a

767
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: few years apart. My sister and I are five years

768
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 2: apart and we're very very close now, but our childhoods

769
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: were a little disparate. And yeah, and now they're my

770
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: My son and daughter are really best friends, little best friends.

771
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: So so what what motivates you these days to write

772
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: the next books? Is local saying every time you do

773
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: write a book, I was like, when's your next one?

774
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: And like I'm doing this on Dance one stars, when's

775
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: the next girl?

776
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Stop? Like I'm here right now? But what is on

777
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: your list?

778
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: And does having that list bring you some kind of

779
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: of joy?

780
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: You know? What's like that? It's actually a conversation that

781
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: I have with Ali Love, whom you're close with, you know.

782
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: She asked me once, how do you want to spend

783
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: every day for the next two years? And it just

784
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: floored me because it wasn't like in fifteen years. It

785
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: was like no, like the mundane right, how do you

786
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: want to spend the ordery day moments? And that really

787
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: helped ground me because I am an ambitious person and

788
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: I owe and I do have that ambitious flaw I

789
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: guess of being onto the not even celebrating the win, right,

790
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: and they're already onto the next thing. And I recently

791
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: released a cookbook in March of twenty twenty six, and

792
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: so that was a New York Times bestseller. I was

793
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: so grateful for that. And I kind of have let

794
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: things breathe. And by breathing, I mean, you know, still

795
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: a very robust daily schedule, but in terms of like

796
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: a creative process, I'm kind of letting it breathe. Good

797
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: for you, focusing on my podcast, Project Swagger, my peloton work.

798
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: I've got some branded partnerships. Of course, I've got racing.

799
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: But I'm not feeling the pressure to like check the

800
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: next thing off the box because I never want to

801
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: resent the time away from my family. Yeah, and when

802
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: I know I'm working on a project that is super hard,

803
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: work requires grit, but I'm proud of the output, I

804
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: can justify that time away. And when I see the friction, yeah,

805
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: or I feel like, oh, I don't want to do it,

806
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: and it's coming from a place of resentment, I know

807
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: that the intention might be misaligned in terms of the

808
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: choice to do that project.

809
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Tell me about Project Swagger, because you only take things

810
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: you love. Something you tell me about this.

811
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: So Project Swagger is my weekly podcast and it's thirty

812
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: minutes or less of mindset tips, hot takes on wellness,

813
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: like just kind of trying to cut through the noise

814
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: for the busy person often a woman, yeah, you know,

815
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: in her thirties, forties, fifties and beyond who wants to

816
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: who already knows like to drink the water and have

817
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: the greens and go to bed. But it's like, how

818
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: do we then truly optimize our lives with intention rather

819
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: than getting wrapped up in optimization culture?

820
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: What are some good I mean, as we're kind of

821
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: wrapping up, what are some good takeaways from that? Because

822
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: I think that's so important. People listening to this are

823
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: hungry for that too, And you're right, they're getting their sleep,

824
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: they're eating their greens. And sometimes I still feel kind

825
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: of mad. It's like I'm doing the things I don't

826
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: feel great.

827
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, two things buff the bat lift heavy, heavy, heavy,

828
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: three times a week, no negotiable and heavy meaning that

829
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: last one or two reps should feel disrespectful. And I

830
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: am a firm proponent of twenty grams of creatine a day,

831
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: creating across but twenty grams superduced.

832
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: How much is in a one of those gum life Oh, okay,

833
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: I do the guy.

834
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I will superduce my creatine across the almost

835
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: three or four Stanley cups. So two lots of water.

836
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: You know, you definitely don't want to increase your water intake.

837
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: And I think the self talk, I'm all about rattling

838
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: the age cage. And I see a lot on social

839
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: media or you know, I'll meet you know, members in

840
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: the Pelton studio and I'll hear an offside comment of like, oh,

841
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm to old for that now, and that person will

842
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: be like thirty five, you know, Like what So I

843
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: think I think that we just have to And I

844
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: think the narrative is shifting for sure, And we have

845
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: a ton of examples now of folks who are just

846
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: doing iconic things and every decade off. But it's important

847
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: to watch how you can observe it right. You can see,

848
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: you can like a TikTok or like an Instagram story

849
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, that person's awesome. But then when

850
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: you're in the throes of it, you're making a choice

851
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: that you feel is bold. It's like, oh, is this

852
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: pushing the boundaries of who I am at forty or

853
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: fifty or sixty, And it's like, yes, it should. You

854
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: should be rattling the age cage, Like what decision? And

855
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: this is a question that I would relate it to

856
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: the self talk that I would ask your listeners, what

857
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: decision would you make if you were twice as bold

858
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: and twice as confident, Because it's like that version of

859
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: yourself is just waiting to be let out of a cage. Girl.

860
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Let's end there, love you Robin, let us out of

861
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: our cage girl.

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Speaker 1: So don't you love Robin ars On? I mean, just

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00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: I think about all of the hurdles that she's overcome,

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Speaker 1: and how she liked leads with such sort of optimism, ambition,

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Speaker 1: all the things. I still can't get over the fact

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Speaker 1: that she was grabbed in a New York wine bar

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Speaker 1: and held hostage for hours and somehow at the end

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Speaker 1: of it turned that horrific experience into a life changing

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Speaker 1: moment that would propel her. Also, you know what else

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Speaker 1: I love about her. She's very disciplined. Yet she met

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Speaker 1: her husband in three days later they were engaged. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you like, you gotta love a girl with whimsy,

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Speaker 1: You gotta love a girl who works hard, and there's

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Speaker 1: discipline in there, and it's all beautiful. And I think

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Speaker 1: for Robin, you know, I love a poem, And for Robin,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Mary Oliver for her. So this is

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Speaker 1: the one I feel like fits Robin. It's called the

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Speaker 1: Summer Day. Who made the world, who made the swan?

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Speaker 1: And the black bear? Who made the grasshopper? This grasshopper,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one who's flung herself out of the grass,

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00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: the one who's eating sugar out of my hand, who's

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00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: moving her jaws back and forth instead of up and down,

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Speaker 1: who's gazing around with her enormous and complicated eyes. Now

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Speaker 1: she shifts her pale forearms and thoroughly washes her face.

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Speaker 1: And now she snaps her wings open and floats away.

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what a prayer is. I do

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Speaker 1: know how to pay attention, how to fall down into

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Speaker 1: the grass, how to kneel down in the grass, how

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Speaker 1: to be idle and blessed, how to stroll through the fields,

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Speaker 1: which is what I've been doing all day.

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Speaker 2: So here's the best part of this poem.

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Speaker 1: You ready tell me what else should I have done?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't everything die at last?

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Speaker 2: And too soon.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what is it you plan to do with

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Speaker 1: your one wild and precious life. I'm want to read

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Speaker 1: that last line again. Tell me what is it you

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Speaker 1: plan to do with your one wild and precious life?

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Speaker 2: Mary Oliver.

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Speaker 1: We all get one wild and precious life, all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's live it.