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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey into

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel s wanted dad, dude,

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Speaker 1: hope you guys are doing great, smiling from the inside.

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Speaker 1: That's what I always tell my folks, now that fake,

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Speaker 1: superficial smile, like you actually feeling good, feeling great about life.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to today's show, obviously, I gotta get you guys.

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Speaker 1: Started with what I'm up to and yesterday I went

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Speaker 1: to a day party. Yeah, I know, I am too

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Speaker 1: damn old to be going to day parties. I'm not

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Speaker 1: this one though, this one was tamred in the average,

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Speaker 1: so I felt good about it. Went there with my

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Speaker 1: boy Ray, who owns the restaurant Casamadera Cedgric entertainer. The

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Speaker 1: homie used to live next to him as well, so

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Speaker 1: known him forever we were out. David Justice remember him? Beast?

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Speaker 1: What three World Series win championships and really good looking dude?

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Speaker 1: Still who else? Muh Cedra brought a s my homegirl

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Speaker 1: and the best part of it all was not the DJ,

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Speaker 1: and he was killing it, but he was playing house music,

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Speaker 1: and you know how that goes, minute one and minute

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Speaker 1: one hundred sounded the same to do, like this dude

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Speaker 1: He was killing it. It was two damn loud. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, the highlight was I gotta get y'all my

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Speaker 1: ego stroke. I'm sitting there eating the krab legs. They're

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Speaker 1: good too. They like barbecue krablegs. They never had barbecue

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Speaker 1: krab legs. They're not really barbecue, but they just taste

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Speaker 1: like that. I was tearing them things up, looking down,

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Speaker 1: this big, old pretty girl like five ten Greek black

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Speaker 1: like what So everybody laughing because they won I'm married,

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Speaker 1: but two they like that girl half his age coming

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Speaker 1: damn and she blasting it like she'd been there a

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Speaker 1: Long story short. We talked and she's actually modeling, and

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Speaker 1: I just went to a modeling agency. I said, I'll refer,

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Speaker 1: and I was just talking to her. But it felt good.

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Speaker 1: Forty eight and still want of the fine ones out

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Speaker 1: there and they twenty still hol at your boy. It

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Speaker 1: happened fast too. I was like, get in, get out,

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Speaker 1: to you like we networking, Yeah, right, working that net

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Speaker 1: So she got in it out real fast. You want

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Speaker 1: to know who else is real fast? Let's get the

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Speaker 1: show started with Tyreek Hill. Y'all watched this weekend. Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill just won the men's sixty meter Master's indoor championship.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know they let anybody get into the

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Speaker 1: master's right, They like all comers, come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: And he went in this dude right a six point

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Speaker 1: reference for that. A lot of people don't know track

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Speaker 1: like that. It's six point seven fast. Yeah, it's fast,

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Speaker 1: but it's football fast running track. It ain't track fast

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Speaker 1: running track. Let me tell you why Hills Time puts

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Speaker 1: him outside this year's I'm talking about this year, would

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Speaker 1: us in March thirteenth, March thirteenth, this year's top two

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Speaker 1: hundred men in the event, y'all hear what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: As fast as Tyreek Hill is fastest due in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: he's not even top two hundred in track in field?

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Speaker 1: Track fast versus football fast. There's no comparing. And I

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Speaker 1: Let me get your fun story. Like somebody I knew

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Speaker 1: google Obie More, this dude was faster than you, same

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Speaker 1: but that is a legendary story that lives in the the

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Speaker 1: NFL locker rooms till this day. I don't like to

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Speaker 1: John Morant like, Wow, I'm your biggest supporter, But damn dog,

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Speaker 1: what is going on? They say, when it rained, it

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Speaker 1: Job Morants Power Aid ads. Wow. Co Cola has pulled

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Speaker 1: if anybody from my era that's trying to talk down

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Speaker 1: on Job. Eighty percent of us would have been in

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Speaker 1: that in his video. Interesting, he said, because all of

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers, all that kind of stuff, Kanye West, etc. However,

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Speaker 1: just go ball, go home, whatever that may be, stay

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Speaker 1: out of the media's eye in a negative way. Ten

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Speaker 1: my god, media darlings, we love this guy. This guy

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Speaker 1: seems like every era has been that way, including this era. Right,

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Speaker 1: you lose someone, lose that talent, lose that greatness. Want

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00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: to know why. Let's go here from Brooklyn's perspective, you

425
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: lose Kyrie Irving, everybody looks around is like, Yo, nobody

426
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: gonna save us. Dog, It's on us. And when you

427
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: go home, it's not a US at home, it's you.

428
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: US starts with the letter you, doesn't it. So you

429
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: gotta remember that, Like this team still has black belts

430
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: on it. All. These guys were collegiate grads, are high

431
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: school grads, Like somehow, some way they made it to

432
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: the pros. Y'all could clown them all you want when

433
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: they're at the pro level, because they're amongst the greatest

434
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: on the planet. But there's still a special talent. I

435
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: tell everyone, especially fans that come up to me trying

436
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: to dis some player, I'm like, dog, he's still a

437
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: black belt. He may not be a thirty degree black belt,

438
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: he may not be the best ever Bruce leeon, but

439
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: he is a black build. Don't believe me. Go to

440
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: the local gym with one of those scrubs in the

441
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: NBA and play against him. Hill, where are your ass out?

442
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: That's how the game goes. So addition by subtraction on

443
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: that team, right, Oh no savior, Oh no pie in

444
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: the sky coming. Nobody's just gonna come down from the heavens.

445
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: It's on me, it's on us, It's on you. And

446
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: they go out there and actually engage and activate and

447
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: play above their heads. So it was always in them,

448
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: but they were deferring, they were showing reverence. They were

449
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: also knowing their place and knowing their role. That Kyrie. Sean,

450
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: we'll get in where we fit in. Right, That's how

451
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: it goes. Now there's a flip side to that as well.

452
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: You're the Dallas Mavericks. Kyrie shows up, everyone psychologically just

453
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: starts to fit into their role. Right, You're like, oh,

454
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie here, Okay, everyone bumped down outside of Luca one

455
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: notch because Kyrie's in the building. Correct, that's how it goes.

456
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: I dare you to buck and be like, oh, it's

457
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: my turn to Sean Kyrie. Ye, okay, you'd be doing

458
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: that on the bench between your legs as you sit.

459
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: There ain't none of that happening on the court Luca

460
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: Kyrie's show. But then some of those main characters who

461
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: have the talent that could go out there and give

462
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: you production, all of a sudden, they become background singers.

463
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: They become like background noise, just here to fill in

464
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: the blanks. And it doesn't add up all the way

465
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: with that dynamic because what also's happening at the top.

466
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: It's something that we saw in Miami when Lebron went

467
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 1: to join Dwayne Wade and Chris Boss came with him.

468
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Remember that it's called excess deference. Right, you just defer

469
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: too much, like you don't know where to get in.

470
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: You don't know where to fit in between Luca and Kyrie,

471
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: like between Lebron and d Wade, because Lebron went to

472
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: d Wade's house, but everyone knew that Lebron Shoa had

473
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: the master bedroom. I hear y'all right, Now, first of all,

474
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: don't start with that whole master bear room stuff. I

475
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: saw something on the internet, so it must be true

476
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: that the master bedroom stuff didn't start with slavery. It

477
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: started way after that, like in the nineteen hundred, So

478
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: y'all wrong for that anyway. So you go to the

479
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: way Waye's house, but you're supposed to be sleeping in

480
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: the biggest bathroom, and you didn't want to because Lebron

481
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: got that big heart. You know, that's big bro, that's

482
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: d Way to them. But d Way was great. But

483
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: the knees and that game started to come down the

484
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: hill ever so slightly, and Lebrons was still climbing. And

485
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: what should have happened is d Way, I love your house,

486
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: big dog, but I might have to take that big bedroom.

487
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: And I heard this from one of their coaches actually,

488
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: and he said, Dog, I remember one time we were

489
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: in practice and they had to yell at Lebron because

490
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: it's like, Lebron, take the damn keys, like you know,

491
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: hot potato and with the keys on the D Way

492
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: that's me and d Way. Oh perfect basketball play. Take

493
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: the damn keys and take over. What happened? They made

494
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: it to the finals. They didn't win in part because

495
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: they didn't know their roles properly because they were showing

496
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: that excess deference at the top. What's gonna happen with

497
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: Dallas right now? Are they gonna get caught up in

498
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: that Luca like dog Kyrie O beast, but I'm Luca,

499
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: and Kyrie like Luca obast but I'm Kyrie. Somebody gonna

500
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: have to take the keys and open up the big

501
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: bedroom doors. Like first of all, if you have ever

502
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: been in somebody house that has keys to their master

503
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: bedroom that opens up like this, That's what I'm talking about.

504
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to find those keys and claim that room.

505
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Someone has to be the lead dog. Now, after that happens,

506
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: you start to find out what this team is fully

507
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: capable of. After those roles are properly defined. Right now

508
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: in Dallas not properly defined, Oh, in Brooklyn. Easy, Hey, dog,

509
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: only way we're gonna kick these light zones if we

510
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: go out there and even we kill. Let's start killing stuff.

511
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: And it's simple. So that's how you can get that

512
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: initial joke and boost from a team that is actually

513
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: in deficit of talent, but they are all playing together

514
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: versus this finger over here called Luca, this finger over

515
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: here called Kyrie going against the Brooklyn nets as a fist.

516
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: Gonna lose that one every time. They need to close

517
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: it up over there in Dallas, and they're gonna get

518
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: there because the talent is there. And what's gonna happen

519
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Let's be real, they're gonna regrets to the mean,

520
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: They're gonna go back to the law of averages or

521
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: what a team like that should look like. Yeah, play

522
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: above your heads all you want. You won't do that forever,

523
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: but with Dallas there's a chance, especially because the West

524
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: is wide open. So that Miami heat those four years

525
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: with Lebron and d Wade together was just to me,

526
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: just a lesson of life of like, when you go

527
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: into a situation, you gotta always show who you are.

528
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: I know, it's tough. We're go into rooms and we

529
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: read rooms first, Right, you want to make sure everyone's nice,

530
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: want to make sure everyone's cool. Oh, that's my boy

531
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: over there. Let me give them the nod. I hate

532
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: the nod too, Like the nod is supposed to be,

533
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Like we're in the same place this and no we're not.

534
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh I see you over there. What's up? Boy? Like

535
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: we need what's up? What's up? Like with me? Like

536
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm only here to eat, bro, and I'm gonna have

537
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: to kill some stuff in here, and don't let it

538
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: be you, Like I'm in here to go get this.

539
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: We're competing. It's a funny dynamic when you're competing against

540
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: not only those in the room, but the whole world

541
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: outside of the room. Right, Team sports. So those Miami

542
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: four years, Lebron year one messed that thing up because

543
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: he didn't want to take control. Oh after year one

544
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: and all that ridicule and then losing the Dallas, Oh

545
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: that boy got right. He took them keys. He went

546
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: in that bad room, kicked Dwayne way out and said, man,

547
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: you better go sleep on the couch or something, because

548
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: this is my squad, even though this is your house.

549
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that except let's be real

550
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: feels weird, right, It just does. I coach my kids

551
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: right now, and my kids are kind of like being

552
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: nice to each other. I said, do you can go

553
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: at somebody or the other team and still be a

554
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: good guy. Guess when you're gonna show your a good

555
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: guy after the game? Good game, good game. While you're

556
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: playing the game. I hate to tell you, it's okay

557
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: to go to that special place. It's okay to not

558
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: want that guy to succeed. It's okay to try your

559
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: best to make him fail. He has to do his

560
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: best to make you fail. That's what we are volunteered

561
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: to do. So it's gonna be fun to see how

562
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: Brooklyn continues to elevate but sooner or later get on

563
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: that roller coaster, and to see Dallas get off the

564
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: roller coaster and finally elevate. Well, y'all know how we're

565
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: in this show every single time. What a wily ism,

566
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: and this one comes sponsored by Nancy Reagan. Your guys

567
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: would know it when I say just say no. Remember

568
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: she said in the just say No. But I had

569
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: to make it a wism, just say no without guilt. Boom.

570
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Let me tell you I used to live by that

571
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: mantra just say no. They tell you that every time

572
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: you go into a new situation and you're getting pressure

573
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: to do stuff, just say no peer pressure, Just say

574
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: no drugs and gangs and stuff. Just say no. And

575
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't work, like it sounds great.

576
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: But when you say no to somebody, they always want

577
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to repeat the question, right, Like my kids all the time,

578
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: they were like, Daddy, can I get some popcorn with

579
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the butter and the season salt? No, you had it yesterday.

580
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Why another question next day? Daddy, can I get the

581
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: butter popcorn with the season salt? Yes? He didn't ask

582
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: me nothing else, right, right, So when they say just

583
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: say no, they needed to finish that sentence because just

584
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: saying no ain't enough. People were like, why, what's up?

585
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: What's wrong? Right? So I learned to add without guilt.

586
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: So there you can go through the conversation fully of

587
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: why you said no, and don't let it start to

588
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: wear on you to the point that you actually are

589
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: considering saying yes. Think about it now, Just say no

590
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: without guilt. You say no, Hey, dog, I want you

591
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: to go over here with me, and you know we're

592
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: gonna get into something. You're like, man, I ain't gonna

593
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: do that. No, I'm good. Why dog, what you're doing?

594
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: What else you're up to? You're like, if you start

595
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: to answer that and start to feel the guilt from

596
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: saying no, oh, this is a matter of time, you're

597
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna end up saying all right, dog, all right, man,

598
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: I'll go with you, and you know you're answering go

599
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: with them. Just say no without guilt. So apply that

600
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: to all the situations you're in. And I don't want

601
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: to go all ways to illegal activities or scandless activities.

602
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just someone asking you simply to do something

603
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: you really don't want to do. But then you're like

604
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: soon you say no, You're like, but I could, but

605
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: I should, But I mean, I shouldn't be that mean, Like,

606
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: just say no, nacy regging, Just say no without guilt.

607
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: You'll be much happier for it. All right, that's gonna

608
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: do it for more too. It checked the show notes

609
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: for all the information on our topics to day, dude,

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Speaker 1: you want to keep the conversation going, How know you

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Speaker 1: do less talk? Find me on all socials at Marcellous Walley.

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Speaker 1: That's right. More to It is a production of Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Productions, That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media show as

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00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: executive produced by Dan Patrick, mar So Swady, That's Me,

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Speaker 1: That Dude, Paul Anderson and Nick Panella, Marsel Sway, thanks

616
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Speaker 1: for listening, Thanks for those reviews. Keep them coming, man,

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Speaker 1: I read every single one of them. Reviews all what

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Speaker 1: I got, one hundred and eighty two of them. Something crazy. UM.

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Speaker 1: I love y'all. Man. There's more coming from More to It.

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Speaker 1: Talk to you Hella soon got