Speaker 1: It's been a couple of days since that disappointing performance
Speaker 1: by the Jags against the Ravens. Do you guys feel
Speaker 1: any better now that you've had a little time since
Speaker 1: the game ended.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: It's the week before Christmas. Man, if you can't bring
Speaker 3: the energy, no one's going to give it to you.
Speaker 3: So yes, I'm here to bring energy.
Speaker 4: I feel good, Jaguars. Why that feel a little better?
Speaker 5: There's a lot of concerns.
Speaker 1: Welcome into jag zam here on Wednesday and Pinony, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of eys here with Bryan Sexton and John
Speaker 1: Osier and we've had a little bit of time for
Speaker 1: the dust to settle since things went down on Sunday Nights.
Speaker 1: Football not what we wanted to see from that team,
Speaker 1: but we have to move forward as there is still
Speaker 1: some football left to be played and they're tied to
Speaker 1: top the division of the AFC South now, so things
Speaker 1: are very important. Let's start off with our big things.
Speaker 1: The first big thing is positive. So Doug Peterson obviously
Speaker 1: after the game not thrilled with how his team played,
Speaker 1: but you have to move forward, and he's trying to
Speaker 1: focus on the positives.
Speaker 2: I think so much.
Speaker 6: Sometimes we focus on the negative all the time and
Speaker 6: not the positive.
Speaker 2: We got to we gotta.
Speaker 6: Find the good too, and and fill our players' heads
Speaker 6: with positive this time of year, because you know, we're
Speaker 6: we're we feel like we're still a good football team,
Speaker 6: and we've we played like it at times.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: It's just at times we we don't look very good.
Speaker 1: It's just that simple, right, Brian, They just at times
Speaker 1: they just don't look very good.
Speaker 3: Well, you know it's funny, so we don't put the
Speaker 3: question on. But I asked him the question, how is
Speaker 3: it that you take something that feels like it's compounding
Speaker 3: like it it just gets worse week to week? And
Speaker 3: how do you break that cycle? And Johnny, you probably recall,
Speaker 3: there was a long pause before he answered the question.
Speaker 3: It was like he was trying to break that cycle
Speaker 3: in his own mind.
Speaker 2: You know, he was still frustrated.
Speaker 3: You could tell when he walked in and he started
Speaker 3: talking about having to be positive and bring positive energy
Speaker 3: to it. My follow up question I thought was the
Speaker 3: most telling. I said, how.
Speaker 2: Difficult is it to do that?
Speaker 3: His response was, it's really difficult, especially the day after
Speaker 3: the loss. But you could sense john that he understood
Speaker 3: that this team still if they could just get out
Speaker 3: of their own way on the field, but listen to
Speaker 3: the right voice in their head and ignore the Internet
Speaker 3: and Twitter and all of those things they are telling
Speaker 3: them lost loss, loss, failure, failure, failure, but focus just
Speaker 3: on where they really are. Win these last three games.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You're in at eleven and six and you repeat his
Speaker 3: division champs for the first time since nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 3: and nineteen ninety nine. That's the truth. Forget all the
Speaker 3: other stuff. Focus on that, And that was his message
Speaker 3: to them on Monday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, going into this last six games, this on paper
Speaker 7: was a possibility, meaning Cincinnati, all the teams they've lost
Speaker 7: to you last three we have been good or playing
Speaker 7: well and might all be in the playoffs depending on
Speaker 7: how things play out. So you sort of knew they
Speaker 7: can get to those last three, which are against teams
Speaker 7: that aren't on paper playing as well, then they can
Speaker 7: do it. But then once that reality hits you, it's like, oh, no,
Speaker 7: they've lost three games.
Speaker 4: It's all still there in front of them.
Speaker 7: The worry for me is not necessarily they lost the
Speaker 7: last three games. It's their situation now with quarterback with
Speaker 7: personnel offensively. Does that sort of leak into the last
Speaker 7: three and sort of get into their heads. I think
Speaker 7: that's why Doug was trying to be so positive. It's
Speaker 7: his job to make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly could become an issue for them this week,
Speaker 3: and it touches on what I'm going to do for
Speaker 3: hot takes. So I won't go too deep into it
Speaker 3: other than to say that you really have to have
Speaker 3: a very strong mental approach this week knowing that you're
Speaker 3: going to be playing without some key players.
Speaker 1: When we looked at the schedule earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: I don't think we would have been shocked if they
Speaker 1: lost maybe the last three games or so. But it's
Speaker 1: the way that they've been losing, which into our big
Speaker 1: thing Number two. Some of the negatives they've been hurting themselves.
Speaker 1: It's self inflicting mistakes and just silly errors that they
Speaker 1: know they shouldn't be making. Josh Allen a leader certainly
Speaker 1: on this team. He talks a little bit about helping
Speaker 1: his teammates, specifically Travon Walker and improvements that they need
Speaker 1: to make going.
Speaker 8: Forward, you know, and that's another way of holding each
Speaker 8: other accountable. You know, it was one player where I
Speaker 8: thought he didn't do it right, and you know, for me,
Speaker 8: I seen what I saw, so I got on him.
Speaker 8: But it wasn't it wasn't the message what I was saying.
Speaker 8: It was it was the words I was coming out
Speaker 8: because this is something that we probably something that we did.
Speaker 8: But then once he explained it to me, we kind of,
Speaker 8: you know, dialogue, then they say like, okay, well, next
Speaker 8: time you do it, didn't just do it like that,
Speaker 8: and then everything he was just he was just free,
Speaker 8: you know. So it's just little things that.
Speaker 1: John, I feel like part of it what makes it
Speaker 1: so frustrating is you know they can do it, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they're just making mistakes that kind of baffle us
Speaker 1: each week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's really the weird thing about the last
Speaker 7: three games. All three of those teams are playing well
Speaker 7: on paper. You can certainly see where they lost those games,
Speaker 7: and you can make an argument that all three of
Speaker 7: those teams are playing better than the Jaguars right now.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, there were chances to win.
Speaker 7: And Doug's right when he says if they had just
Speaker 7: gotten out of their own way, they would have that's
Speaker 7: really my storyline for the last three games. They should
Speaker 7: win their last three. Even with the personnel on the field,
Speaker 7: they can beat Tampa. They can do these things they're
Speaker 7: talking about. But can they stop giving the ball away?
Speaker 7: Can they stop giving free points away on defense? Which
Speaker 7: they did against the Browns. The concern is is that
Speaker 7: what they are now? I don't think we find that
Speaker 7: out until Sunday.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. And there were two mistakes.
Speaker 3: Trevor played a very good game against the Bengals and
Speaker 3: then he got hurt and they lost, and then he
Speaker 3: didn't play as well against the Browns. Of course, he's
Speaker 3: playing on that angle, so you've got to make sure
Speaker 3: you put that into the context.
Speaker 2: And then he had those.
Speaker 3: Two red zone errors late in the ball game or
Speaker 3: late in the first half that make you scratch your
Speaker 3: head and go, okay, where's the quarterback at? And I
Speaker 3: still john think that this is a kid who is
Speaker 3: going to be a really good quarterback. But the errors
Speaker 3: are on both sides of the ball, and they've got
Speaker 3: to get those things fixed. And it gets much more
Speaker 3: difficult when you're playing without Christian Kirk and now perhaps
Speaker 3: say Jones, who's got a knee and a hamstring that
Speaker 3: he's having to deal with, so everyone around them has
Speaker 3: to pick up the slack this week.
Speaker 1: Everyone, Let's go into our final big thing, which is
Speaker 1: question mark. Obviously that revolves around quarterback Trevor Lawrence. He's
Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol. They that came down after the game,
Speaker 1: so we don't know what the exact timeline for his
Speaker 1: return will be. Brian, I know you're a big fan
Speaker 1: of kind of just going forward with maybe either a CJ.
Speaker 1: Bether and the game plan for that instead of kind
Speaker 1: of waiting out things for Trevor. But this will be
Speaker 1: an interesting week because they need to play well in Tampa.
Speaker 1: This could be you know now that they're hig to
Speaker 1: top Dassuth.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, so we're looking here at some of
Speaker 3: the late throws. It seems so errant that one wasn't
Speaker 3: quite so late, but some of the throws and when
Speaker 3: he was throwing the ball, you're like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: That doesn't look like Trevor. And then we found out
Speaker 3: afterwards Johnan he was in the concussion protocol. Look, you know,
Speaker 3: he gutted it out with the knee and had a
Speaker 3: great game on Thursday, Night football in New Orleans, and
Speaker 3: then he gutted it out and gave his team a
Speaker 3: chance to win despite the turnovers in Cleveland. This is
Speaker 3: not one he gets to decide. This is not him
Speaker 3: who says I'm just I'm playing no matter what. He's
Speaker 3: in the protocol. So, more so than ever, you don't
Speaker 3: even need to say help is not on the way.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't even need to declare this because
Speaker 3: it's obvious.
Speaker 1: C J.
Speaker 3: Stroud, by the way, the Houston Texans quarterback, didn't play
Speaker 3: last week, and now the word is he's not gonna
Speaker 3: play this week. So I think you just have to
Speaker 3: assume he isn't playing and CJ. Bethert is going to
Speaker 3: be the quarterback. And I think at this point of
Speaker 3: the week it's a benefit to know that because everyone
Speaker 3: knows help is not on the way. Everyone knows that
Speaker 3: they've got to lift their game to another level and
Speaker 3: make plays so that they can help CJ.
Speaker 2: Bethard as they move the ball.
Speaker 7: However they do that, Yeah, and I really think the
Speaker 7: key for one game, this isn't the key for career season.
Speaker 7: Even if Trevor was playing, the message would be don't
Speaker 7: make mistakes don't give this away. Let's play clean and
Speaker 7: see if we can by playing clean offensively with either
Speaker 7: Even if Trevor plays, it's a limited cast. I don't
Speaker 7: think Zay Jones is gonna play, Chris is not gonna play.
Speaker 7: They're having trouble running the ball, so it's gonna be
Speaker 7: a challenge offensively. So I think that's gonna be the
Speaker 7: theme even if Trevor comes back. They have to play
Speaker 7: to their identity, which has been all season. Create turnovers
Speaker 7: on defense, play good on defense, and it makes some
Speaker 7: big plays offensively. I don't think it matters who's I
Speaker 7: don't think it matters who plays quarterback.
Speaker 4: I think that's the approach.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a defensive game. The defense is
Speaker 2: gonna need to do this.
Speaker 3: The bucksher I think they're twenty first on offense and
Speaker 3: twenty sixth on defense. That've gotten to seven and seven
Speaker 3: because the quarterback is playing well. Baker Mayfield's coming off
Speaker 3: a perfect pasture. I think he's the first quarterback to
Speaker 3: ever do that at lambeau Field in another uniform other
Speaker 3: than the Packers. A four touchdown, three hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: one yard performance. So I mean, you can just point
Speaker 3: right now, right here. The question is who's gonna get
Speaker 3: this done, and the answer is the defense.
Speaker 1: All right, stay with us. We're gonna go over a
Speaker 1: little bit about the road ahead and what the Jags
Speaker 1: are going to need to do if they want to
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Speaker 1: Jagsam today. Well, back on the couch, We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a little this or that. There's a whole lot going
Speaker 1: on in the AFC South right now. Things have gotten
Speaker 1: a little bit more interesting than we were hoping they
Speaker 1: would be at this time in the season. It's a
Speaker 1: tie top the South with the Colts and the Texans
Speaker 1: and the Jags and a little bit of this or that.
Speaker 1: Which one are you more concerned about at this point?
Speaker 1: I think normally would say the Texans, but set Strausen
Speaker 1: the protocol as you mentioned, Yeah, that limits them.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In early news, this week is that it doesn't look
Speaker 3: like he's going to come out of the protocol, right,
Speaker 3: which means that they're going to start Davis Mills, who
Speaker 3: was good enough to beat the Titans last week, but
Speaker 3: probably not good enough to beat a Browns team that
Speaker 3: has all sorts of momentum back to back winning seasons.
Speaker 3: For Cleveland, it's the first time sin's the Marty Schottenheimer
Speaker 3: era that they have done that. So they are feeling
Speaker 3: really good about themselves and they're in the middle of
Speaker 3: this thing, and so you know, good for the Jags, right,
Speaker 3: and then behind them, you've got a Colts team that
Speaker 3: is scrappy and refuses to go away, that's playing in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: So you've got to be more concerned about the Colts
Speaker 3: because remember they're two games back unless they have a
Speaker 3: better record than you. So I would say that's the
Speaker 3: last part.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I think the scenario that could play out
Speaker 7: is Cleveland goes to Houston this week and wins. It's
Speaker 7: in Houston, right, and then last game of the season,
Speaker 7: Houston with a healthy C. J. Stroud beats the Colts,
Speaker 7: giving both of those teams one loss and giving Jaguars
Speaker 7: air to breathe a little bit. In that scenario, the
Speaker 7: Jaguars win the division with two wins, meaning they could lose.
Speaker 4: Sunday and still get in.
Speaker 7: Nobody wants to be in that situation because that's like
Speaker 7: walking on.
Speaker 4: A tight rope.
Speaker 7: So I'd say right now, my big concern would still
Speaker 7: be the Texans long term, But the Colts are that
Speaker 7: team this year. That for eleven games, probably because the
Speaker 7: Jaguars beat the Colts, it's.
Speaker 4: Been out of the Colts. Well, now it's the Colts. Now.
Speaker 7: If you lose, the Colts control your destiny and you
Speaker 7: can't do anything about it.
Speaker 4: So I'd say both unfortun Well, one.
Speaker 3: More reason why the Colts are team to be aware
Speaker 3: of is they're getting healthy. Right So, Jonathan Taylor's coming back.
Speaker 3: They got Grover Stewart, their big nose tackle, who really
Speaker 3: they found out when he was absent, how he powers
Speaker 3: that defensive front. He's such a load in the middle
Speaker 3: that you've got to have two guys always sort of
Speaker 3: accounting for him, and it makes everyone else's job easier.
Speaker 3: So they're getting healthy, they're getting guys back at the
Speaker 3: right time.
Speaker 1: They certainly are. It's going to make things difficult. We
Speaker 1: will mention the days on the tiebreakers, but just went
Speaker 1: out and then you don't have to worry about any
Speaker 1: of the tie breakers, which would be key. Let's do
Speaker 1: a little quarterback talk because Nathan Rourke got picked up
Speaker 1: by the Patriots off waivers this week and coming at
Speaker 1: probably the worst possible time, right because obviously with Trevor
Speaker 1: and the protocol now CJ. Bethard, who has banged up
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks as well with a shoulder
Speaker 1: injury for himself. So is it a big deal that
Speaker 1: they've lost their third string quarterback? Normally I'd say no,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of not a great time to be
Speaker 1: losing him.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a great time, but I'm not sure
Speaker 3: it's that big of a deal. What do we really
Speaker 3: know about Nate Pipwork. We haven't seen him on the
Speaker 3: practice field. I mean he's been out there, but we
Speaker 3: haven't seen him on a game field since uh since August.
Speaker 3: And you know, he was playing at a time, John
Speaker 3: where athletic quarterbacks run around and make plays. I mean
Speaker 3: there were hundreds of he saw him everywhere guys and
Speaker 3: making great throws because they're running around and avoiding you know,
Speaker 3: guys who are driving milk trucks now right there are
Speaker 3: even our milk trucks anymore. But I just don't know
Speaker 3: that he's a proven commodity. I don't know you can
Speaker 3: say other than he has more knowledge.
Speaker 1: Of your knowledge of the system.
Speaker 2: Although e J.
Speaker 3: Perry was here on the practice squad last year, and
Speaker 3: how much has it changed. It's the same offensive coordinators,
Speaker 3: same quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The only thing that's changed is the wide receivers coach
Speaker 3: and that doesn't impact it. So I would say e J.
Speaker 3: Perry ought to be able to come back in and
Speaker 3: I think it's a wash.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think you'd rather have Roork because
Speaker 7: the reality is if you would have rather had Perry,
Speaker 7: he would have been here. So it's a little disingenuous
Speaker 7: to say it means nothing. There also is a school
Speaker 7: of thought of once he gets down to that third guy,
Speaker 7: then what are.
Speaker 4: You really talking?
Speaker 7: But as soon as I say that, a lot of
Speaker 7: teams are winning and grinding through with third guys right now.
Speaker 4: The Brown Yeah, so uh yeah, you would rather probably
Speaker 4: have Rour.
Speaker 7: But the big reality is if they had been super
Speaker 7: concerned about that possibility, they wouldn't have ever made him available,
Speaker 7: he would have been on the fifty three.
Speaker 4: So, uh, that being said, why don't think it matters
Speaker 4: that much?
Speaker 3: What's what really is the difference between Rourke and Perry
Speaker 3: that much?
Speaker 2: That much?
Speaker 3: As John says, when you get down to it, it
Speaker 3: better be someone else making plays because you can't rely
Speaker 3: on that third quarterback to do it.
Speaker 1: Let's hope it doesn't get to that point. Well, no,
Speaker 1: exactly a little bit later on in the week, hopefully
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk Stug Peterson today, get a little more
Speaker 1: insight about where Trevor Lawrence is on that timeline, what
Speaker 1: they're doing to prepare CJ. Bethard for this week. But
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Speaker 1: back here on Jags aam this morning and we've had
Speaker 1: a little time to settle from Sunday. I know the
Speaker 1: s guy felt like it was falling at that point.
Speaker 1: It may still be falling, but at least we're a
Speaker 1: little calmer about it. What are our takes this week, Brian?
Speaker 1: You want to kick us off?
Speaker 2: Sure? This week it is the how before the food.
Speaker 2: The NFL is always.
Speaker 3: About movie yet, I mean, it's who's your quarterback? It's
Speaker 3: about players, not plays. But this week, to me, it's
Speaker 3: about Doug Peterson and Press Taylor trying to figure out
Speaker 3: how to move the football with the collection of guys
Speaker 3: that are or haven't been impact players yet, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: Parker Washington has a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: But you're looking at Elijah Cooks and Tim Jones.
Speaker 3: You know who knows If you bring a Seth Williams
Speaker 3: up from the practice squad, it is more about how
Speaker 3: they get guys open and how they utilize c J.
Speaker 2: Bedtherd and what they ask him to do. It.
Speaker 3: It's always players, But this week I just have this
Speaker 3: strong sense that Doug and Press and their team are
Speaker 3: going to have to grind to create ways to get
Speaker 3: guys open and be clever and creative. Not that they
Speaker 3: are not always wanting to be that, but this week
Speaker 3: there's more of an emphasis on it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's it's frankly hard to see when you
Speaker 7: try to analyze it where points and where offensive efficiency
Speaker 7: is gonna come from. They've been really good at times
Speaker 7: when they've had all four guys, it's been operating smoothly.
Speaker 7: But they're not gonna have all four and they only
Speaker 7: have two, and the running game has not shown us
Speaker 7: that it can be a reliable force for this team
Speaker 7: that teams even have to respect.
Speaker 4: So they may they will have to scheme.
Speaker 7: And if you're gonna see a trick play, if you're
Speaker 7: gonna see something like that, you know that feels desperate.
Speaker 4: You don't have to do that.
Speaker 7: They somehow have to get their way into two field
Speaker 7: goals and two touchdowns and win twenty to seventeen to me,
Speaker 7: and that will take Yeah, some scheming on the part
Speaker 7: of Taylor and Peterson.
Speaker 4: That's the reality this week.
Speaker 1: I think it might be one of those we need
Speaker 1: some points from the defense game ye as well, or
Speaker 1: turnover is getting really good field position in the red
Speaker 1: zone helping.
Speaker 4: Any well, remember the other night.
Speaker 7: You know, if if you take advantage of your opportunities
Speaker 7: in the first half, you get at least twelve, maybe
Speaker 7: even sixteen, and then the Agnew touchdown gets you to
Speaker 7: twenty three.
Speaker 4: They sot had to flow end of the night, and
Speaker 4: they should make a play. As I've talked about.
Speaker 7: You can't give when your scoreboard hunting and when your
Speaker 7: score playing like that, you can't give those opportunities away
Speaker 7: because then all of a sudden, instead of being up
Speaker 7: your right down the whole way and.
Speaker 4: Now you're playing uphill.
Speaker 7: I don't think they're very good at playing uphill right
Speaker 7: now because of the personnel.
Speaker 3: Just one example, you know, Luke Ferrell had that twenty
Speaker 3: eight yard completion on the second drive that put them
Speaker 3: into scoring position at the thirty five yard line. I
Speaker 3: believe of the Ravens, and you had Jay Jones and
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram and Ridley and Travis Etn and so it
Speaker 3: was easy for him to get lost right the safety.
Speaker 2: They didn't pay attention. He's normally a blocking tight end.
Speaker 3: Well, this week there's gonna have to be more scheme
Speaker 3: to get him open so that he can make plays
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 4: It's tough when.
Speaker 7: They're in such trouble relying on the running game that
Speaker 7: I think it affects everything else play calling wise. When
Speaker 7: you don't really trust that a handoff is gonna get
Speaker 7: you three point five, then all of a sudden, you
Speaker 7: become wary of what you have to call on other
Speaker 7: plays because you don't really trust that when you watch them.
Speaker 7: That's what it sort of feels like right now. I
Speaker 7: hope Sunday they prove that statement wrong. I went with they.
Speaker 4: Need to grow up again, and I was wrong about
Speaker 4: this team in one sense.
Speaker 7: I guess after the Texans game, I said, they're a
Speaker 7: mature team now that knows how to win games. Really,
Speaker 7: because for seven of eight games they had been that
Speaker 7: they had played to a certain identity.
Speaker 4: They look to me like a team that was sort
Speaker 4: of playoff tough if you will.
Speaker 7: They could win low scoring, grinded out games by playing smart,
Speaker 7: by sort of willing themselves to do that. I thought
Speaker 7: they did that a few times, and in the last
Speaker 7: three games when they've sort of needed that.
Speaker 4: Somebody to make a big play.
Speaker 7: This is our game now moment, you really haven't had it.
Speaker 7: And again, I don't think they would have been favored
Speaker 7: in any of those three games based on how the
Speaker 7: teams are playing now. But a mature team that's gonna
Speaker 7: make it, that's sort of establishing itself, figures out a
Speaker 7: way to get one, and they haven't done that, And
Speaker 7: I think that's surprising that the people involved with it.
Speaker 4: It's not too late to be that team.
Speaker 7: You can if you win the last three, then all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, you're that team again.
Speaker 4: They got to this.
Speaker 7: Week especially, it just feels like they need that ability
Speaker 7: to will themselves to it, even if you don't know
Speaker 7: how they're.
Speaker 4: Gonna do it. I thought they were that team for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 7: I'm less certain about them right now, and I hope
Speaker 7: they show it again on Sunday to be that.
Speaker 1: I think there might be a chance because we do
Speaker 1: see them do it against teams they should be. I
Speaker 1: will say a lot of their issues have come against
Speaker 1: you know, there's no shame in losing to the Ravens.
Speaker 1: It's just you right there. You could have put yourself
Speaker 1: in a better place with that. A lot of that
Speaker 1: was stuff you did to yourself.
Speaker 4: So that's a little bit of it.
Speaker 7: If they had lost any of these last three and
Speaker 7: it wasn't a three game losing stream, I think people
Speaker 7: would say, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 4: They're good.
Speaker 7: When you compile them together and giving some away, it
Speaker 7: has that cumulative feeling that again back to the top
Speaker 7: of the show, I think Doug is trying to sort
Speaker 7: of break that cumulative feeling by saying, hey, remember where.
Speaker 3: We are, and it's hard to do with the backup
Speaker 3: quarterback and without two key receivers and two offensive linemen
Speaker 3: who are not one hundred percent on the left side.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going around that they need
Speaker 1: to clean up and hopefully people will be coming back
Speaker 1: at some point. Mind's a little bit more about the
Speaker 1: culture of between men forward with the team needs.
Speaker 7: To work on.
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars need to learn to hate losing
Speaker 1: more than sometimes that they like winning. And I mean
Speaker 1: that in the sense of you're never gonna get the
Speaker 1: entire team on board with this. But some of the
Speaker 1: great teams and the franchises that are continually successful, they
Speaker 1: dislike when they're playing bad more than maybe they're happy
Speaker 1: when they win. I think Doug Peterson's one of those people.
Speaker 1: I think when we talked to him after games, he's
Speaker 1: kind of baffled sometimes by people not being on the
Speaker 1: same pagison because he's one of those guys I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we heard from Josh Allen. I think he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys. But there's a lot of young
Speaker 1: players on this team. There's a lot of veterans on
Speaker 1: this team. But they didn't necessarily come from winning franchises
Speaker 1: where they're expected to win, make the playoffs every single season.
Speaker 1: They're coming from somewhere where if you win, great, if
Speaker 1: you don't win, you know whatever. And I think they
Speaker 1: have to get over that happy to be here thing
Speaker 1: a little bit, because yes, they should beat a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams. They can win these games. They're perfectly able.
Speaker 1: If I thought that they the roster was bad, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm happy they won some of these
Speaker 1: games too, but they can be better. It's a matter
Speaker 1: of being disappointed because they need to want that for
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Well, they've got a perfect example to learn to hate
Speaker 3: losing because they've done it.
Speaker 2: Three times in a row.
Speaker 1: Yes, if they don't hate it, I will hate it
Speaker 1: for them. But they should learn that for sure. All right,
Speaker 1: say with us, we'll come up and preview a little
Speaker 1: bit of what we're going on the rest of the
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Speaker 1: to them. It's going to be quite a week we're
Speaker 1: getting ready for. We're heading to Tampa on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: It's a four pm game, a little bit of a
Speaker 1: primetime game, if you will. But we don't know who's
Speaker 1: going to be out there, necessarily certainly behind center.
Speaker 2: No, we don't.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna chase down outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey, who
Speaker 3: coaches Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker, because those guys are
Speaker 3: gonna have to have a big day and create opportunities
Speaker 3: like we talking about takeaways and short fields and extra possessions.
Speaker 3: Josh is obvious right what he's doing right now. Trayvon two,
Speaker 3: you know, he's playing really good football. That was a
Speaker 3: big sack last week, and anyone who watched the game
Speaker 3: knows that the Sunday Night Football crew featured him a
Speaker 3: couple of different times. The way he chased down Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: He's coming.
Speaker 3: You can feel this kid is coming, and it couldn't
Speaker 3: come at a better time.
Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to find Schee. We had talk about it.
Speaker 7: I think they have nineteen sacks between him. That's a
Speaker 7: pace to finish about twenty one or twenty two. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean they've been a strength when this defense has
Speaker 7: played well, which is most of the season.
Speaker 4: Played well the other night. I thought those two have
Speaker 4: played well.
Speaker 3: And everyone wants to make the eight and Hutchinson comparison,
Speaker 3: and they always will, with him hunching six and a
Speaker 3: half sacks, dragon his six. So be careful how quickly
Speaker 3: you throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on everything this week. We'll preview
Speaker 1: the game against the Bucks coming up tomorrow on jags Am.
Speaker 1: We will see then