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Speaker 1: It's been a couple of days since that disappointing performance

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: It's the week before Christmas. Man, if you can't bring

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Speaker 3: So yes, I'm here to bring energy.

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Speaker 4: I feel good, Jaguars. Why that feel a little better?

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of concerns.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into jag zam here on Wednesday and Pinony, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of eys here with Bryan Sexton and John

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Speaker 1: Osier and we've had a little bit of time for

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Speaker 1: the dust to settle since things went down on Sunday Nights.

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Speaker 1: Football not what we wanted to see from that team,

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Speaker 1: but we have to move forward as there is still

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Speaker 1: some football left to be played and they're tied to

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Speaker 1: top the division of the AFC South now, so things

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Speaker 1: are very important. Let's start off with our big things.

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Speaker 1: The first big thing is positive. So Doug Peterson obviously

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Speaker 1: after the game not thrilled with how his team played,

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Speaker 1: but you have to move forward, and he's trying to

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Speaker 1: focus on the positives.

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Speaker 2: I think so much.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes we focus on the negative all the time and

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Speaker 6: not the positive.

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Speaker 2: We got to we gotta.

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Speaker 6: Find the good too, and and fill our players' heads

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Speaker 6: with positive this time of year, because you know, we're

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Speaker 6: we're we feel like we're still a good football team,

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Speaker 6: and we've we played like it at times.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: It's just at times we we don't look very good.

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Speaker 1: It's just that simple, right, Brian, They just at times

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Speaker 1: they just don't look very good.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know it's funny, so we don't put the

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Speaker 3: question on. But I asked him the question, how is

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Speaker 3: it that you take something that feels like it's compounding

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Speaker 3: like it it just gets worse week to week? And

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Speaker 3: how do you break that cycle? And Johnny, you probably recall,

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Speaker 3: there was a long pause before he answered the question.

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Speaker 3: It was like he was trying to break that cycle

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Speaker 3: in his own mind.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was still frustrated.

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Speaker 3: You could tell when he walked in and he started

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Speaker 3: talking about having to be positive and bring positive energy

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Speaker 3: to it. My follow up question I thought was the

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Speaker 2: Difficult is it to do that?

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Speaker 3: His response was, it's really difficult, especially the day after

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Speaker 3: the loss. But you could sense john that he understood

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Speaker 3: that this team still if they could just get out

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Speaker 3: of their own way on the field, but listen to

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Speaker 3: the right voice in their head and ignore the Internet

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Speaker 3: and Twitter and all of those things they are telling

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Speaker 3: them lost loss, loss, failure, failure, failure, but focus just

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Speaker 3: on where they really are. Win these last three games.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You're in at eleven and six and you repeat his

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Speaker 3: division champs for the first time since nineteen ninety eight

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Speaker 3: and nineteen ninety nine. That's the truth. Forget all the

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Speaker 3: other stuff. Focus on that, And that was his message

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Speaker 7: Yeah, going into this last six games, this on paper

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Speaker 7: was a possibility, meaning Cincinnati, all the teams they've lost

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Speaker 7: well and might all be in the playoffs depending on

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Speaker 7: do it. But then once that reality hits you, it's like, oh, no,

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Speaker 7: they've lost three games.

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Speaker 4: It's all still there in front of them.

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Speaker 7: The worry for me is not necessarily they lost the

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Speaker 7: personnel offensively. Does that sort of leak into the last

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Speaker 7: that's why Doug was trying to be so positive. It's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly could become an issue for them this week,

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Speaker 3: and it touches on what I'm going to do for

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Speaker 1: When we looked at the schedule earlier in the year,

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Speaker 1: the way that they've been losing, which into our big

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Speaker 1: It's self inflicting mistakes and just silly errors that they

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Speaker 8: Forward, you know, and that's another way of holding each

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Speaker 8: But it wasn't it wasn't the message what I was saying.

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Speaker 8: But then once he explained it to me, we kind of,

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Speaker 8: and then everything he was just he was just free,

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Speaker 1: John, I feel like part of it what makes it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's really the weird thing about the last

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Speaker 7: on paper. You can certainly see where they lost those games,

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, there were chances to win.

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Speaker 7: And Doug's right when he says if they had just

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Speaker 7: really my storyline for the last three games. They should

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Speaker 7: win their last three. Even with the personnel on the field,

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Speaker 7: they can beat Tampa. They can do these things they're

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Speaker 7: talking about. But can they stop giving the ball away?

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Speaker 7: Can they stop giving free points away on defense? Which

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Speaker 7: they did against the Browns. The concern is is that

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Speaker 7: what they are now? I don't think we find that

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. And there were two mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Trevor played a very good game against the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: And then he had those.

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Speaker 3: still john think that this is a kid who is

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Speaker 3: going to be a really good quarterback. But the errors

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Speaker 1: Everyone, Let's go into our final big thing, which is

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Speaker 1: question mark. Obviously that revolves around quarterback Trevor Lawrence. He's

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Speaker 1: return will be. Brian, I know you're a big fan

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Speaker 1: of kind of just going forward with maybe either a CJ.

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Speaker 1: Bether and the game plan for that instead of kind

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Speaker 1: of waiting out things for Trevor. But this will be

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Speaker 1: an interesting week because they need to play well in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: This could be you know now that they're hig to

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, so we're looking here at some of

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Speaker 3: the late throws. It seems so errant that one wasn't

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Speaker 3: he was throwing the ball, you're like, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't look like Trevor. And then we found out

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Speaker 3: afterwards Johnan he was in the concussion protocol. Look, you know,

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Speaker 3: he gutted it out with the knee and had a

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Speaker 3: great game on Thursday, Night football in New Orleans, and

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Speaker 3: then he gutted it out and gave his team a

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Speaker 3: not one he gets to decide. This is not him

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Speaker 3: who says I'm just I'm playing no matter what. He's

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Speaker 3: in the protocol. So, more so than ever, you don't

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Speaker 3: even need to say help is not on the way.

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't even need to declare this because

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Speaker 3: Stroud, by the way, the Houston Texans quarterback, didn't play

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Speaker 3: last week, and now the word is he's not gonna

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Speaker 7: However they do that, Yeah, and I really think the

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Speaker 7: Even if Trevor was playing, the message would be don't

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Speaker 7: make mistakes don't give this away. Let's play clean and

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Speaker 7: see if we can by playing clean offensively with either

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Speaker 7: Even if Trevor plays, it's a limited cast. I don't

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Speaker 7: They're having trouble running the ball, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: a challenge offensively. So I think that's gonna be the

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Speaker 7: theme even if Trevor comes back. They have to play

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Speaker 7: to their identity, which has been all season. Create turnovers

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Speaker 7: on defense, play good on defense, and it makes some

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Speaker 7: big plays offensively. I don't think it matters who's I

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Speaker 7: don't think it matters who plays quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the approach.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a defensive game. The defense is

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Speaker 3: The bucksher I think they're twenty first on offense and

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Speaker 3: because the quarterback is playing well. Baker Mayfield's coming off

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Speaker 3: right now, right here. The question is who's gonna get

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Speaker 1: All right, stay with us. We're gonna go over a

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Speaker 1: You want to kick us off?

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Speaker 2: Sure? This week it is the how before the food.

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Speaker 4: That's the reality this week.

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Speaker 7: three games when they've sort of needed that.

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Speaker 4: Somebody to make a big play.

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Speaker 7: This is our game now moment, you really haven't had it.

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Speaker 7: And again, I don't think they would have been favored

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Speaker 7: in any of those three games based on how the

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Speaker 7: teams are playing now. But a mature team that's gonna

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Speaker 7: make it, that's sort of establishing itself, figures out a

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Speaker 7: way to get one, and they haven't done that, And

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Speaker 7: I think that's surprising that the people involved with it.

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Speaker 4: It's not too late to be that team.

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Speaker 7: You can if you win the last three, then all

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Speaker 7: of a sudden, you're that team again.

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Speaker 4: They got to this.

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Speaker 7: Week especially, it just feels like they need that ability

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Speaker 7: to will themselves to it, even if you don't know

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Speaker 7: how they're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna do it. I thought they were that team for

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Speaker 4: a while.

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Speaker 7: I'm less certain about them right now, and I hope

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Speaker 7: they show it again on Sunday to be that.

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Speaker 1: I think there might be a chance because we do

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Speaker 1: see them do it against teams they should be. I

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Speaker 1: will say a lot of their issues have come against

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no shame in losing to the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: It's just you right there. You could have put yourself

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Speaker 1: in a better place with that. A lot of that

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Speaker 1: was stuff you did to yourself.

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Speaker 4: So that's a little bit of it.

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Speaker 7: If they had lost any of these last three and

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Speaker 7: it wasn't a three game losing stream, I think people

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Speaker 7: would say, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 4: They're good.

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Speaker 7: When you compile them together and giving some away, it

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Speaker 7: has that cumulative feeling that again back to the top

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Speaker 7: of the show, I think Doug is trying to sort

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Speaker 7: of break that cumulative feeling by saying, hey, remember where.

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Speaker 3: We are, and it's hard to do with the backup

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Speaker 3: quarterback and without two key receivers and two offensive linemen

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Speaker 3: who are not one hundred percent on the left side.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going around that they need

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Speaker 1: to clean up and hopefully people will be coming back

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Speaker 1: at some point. Mind's a little bit more about the

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Speaker 1: culture of between men forward with the team needs.

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Speaker 7: To work on.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars need to learn to hate losing

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Speaker 1: more than sometimes that they like winning. And I mean

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Speaker 1: that in the sense of you're never gonna get the

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Speaker 1: entire team on board with this. But some of the

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Speaker 1: great teams and the franchises that are continually successful, they

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Speaker 1: dislike when they're playing bad more than maybe they're happy

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Speaker 1: when they win. I think Doug Peterson's one of those people.

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Speaker 1: I think when we talked to him after games, he's

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Speaker 1: kind of baffled sometimes by people not being on the

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Speaker 1: same pagison because he's one of those guys I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we heard from Josh Allen. I think he's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. But there's a lot of young

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Speaker 1: players on this team. There's a lot of veterans on

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Speaker 1: this team. But they didn't necessarily come from winning franchises

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Speaker 1: where they're expected to win, make the playoffs every single season.

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Speaker 1: They're coming from somewhere where if you win, great, if

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Speaker 1: you don't win, you know whatever. And I think they

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Speaker 1: have to get over that happy to be here thing

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Speaker 1: a little bit, because yes, they should beat a lot

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Speaker 1: of these teams. They can win these games. They're perfectly able.

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Speaker 1: If I thought that they the roster was bad, I'd

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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm happy they won some of these

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Speaker 1: games too, but they can be better. It's a matter

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Speaker 1: of being disappointed because they need to want that for

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Speaker 1: themselves a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've got a perfect example to learn to hate

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Speaker 3: losing because they've done it.

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Speaker 2: Three times in a row.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if they don't hate it, I will hate it

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Speaker 1: for them. But they should learn that for sure. All right,

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Speaker 1: say with us, we'll come up and preview a little

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Speaker 1: bit of what we're going on the rest of the

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Speaker 1: week as we get ready to head to Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: to them. It's going to be quite a week we're

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Speaker 1: getting ready for. We're heading to Tampa on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: It's a four pm game, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: primetime game, if you will. But we don't know who's

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Speaker 1: going to be out there, necessarily certainly behind center.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna chase down outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey, who

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Speaker 3: coaches Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker, because those guys are

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Speaker 3: gonna have to have a big day and create opportunities

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Speaker 3: like we talking about takeaways and short fields and extra possessions.

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Speaker 3: Josh is obvious right what he's doing right now. Trayvon two,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's playing really good football. That was a

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Speaker 3: big sack last week, and anyone who watched the game

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Speaker 3: knows that the Sunday Night Football crew featured him a

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Speaker 3: couple of different times. The way he chased down Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: He's coming.

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Speaker 3: You can feel this kid is coming, and it couldn't

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Speaker 3: come at a better time.

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Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to find Schee. We had talk about it.

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Speaker 7: I think they have nineteen sacks between him. That's a

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Speaker 7: pace to finish about twenty one or twenty two. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean they've been a strength when this defense has

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Speaker 7: played well, which is most of the season.

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Speaker 4: Played well the other night. I thought those two have

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Speaker 4: played well.

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Speaker 3: And everyone wants to make the eight and Hutchinson comparison,

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Speaker 3: and they always will, with him hunching six and a

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Speaker 3: half sacks, dragon his six. So be careful how quickly

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Speaker 3: you throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on everything this week. We'll preview

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Speaker 1: the game against the Bucks coming up tomorrow on jags Am.

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Speaker 1: We will see then