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Speaker 1: Warning, this podcast contains spoilers for a whole bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We lay out a bunch of theories about what we

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepsio, and welcome to x ray Vision,

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Speaker 1: their crooked podcast where we dived fit dear favorite shows, movies, comics,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture. In today's action packed SDCC heavy episode,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all the SDC news. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about our experiences there, we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: stuff that was announced in the airlock. We're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: into Marvel's extremely heavy, massive surprise laden slate from SDCC,

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Speaker 1: and let's jump into it.

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Speaker 2: Joining me today.

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Speaker 1: She is the number one Godzilla writer, their number one

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Speaker 1: comics historian, the number one comics journalist. She's reading the comics,

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Speaker 1: she's writing the comics, she's doing at all.

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Speaker 2: It's Rosie Night, ladies and gentlemen, Hey.

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Speaker 3: It's me. I really that was like very sucsact. That

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Speaker 3: is basically my whole life, she's reading the comics, she's

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Speaker 3: writing in the comic, she's talking about the comics. It's like,

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Speaker 3: that's definitely it.

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Speaker 2: Rosie, We're back from Comic Con. How was it? How

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Speaker 3: It was really cool. Yeah, I was a bit nervous

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Speaker 3: it was really amazing. I was out there predominantly for

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Speaker 3: tell that was with Walky Distance, which was amazing. And

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Speaker 3: and Quintessa Swindell, and it was really surreal to see

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Speaker 3: people just giving it out in an extremely unexpected thing

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Speaker 3: that occurred. I think it was Thursday or Friday night.

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Speaker 3: The Rock Dwayne Johnson took my cover story on Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 2: It was an amazing thing to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, none of it, I know.

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Speaker 3: None of us knew it was going to happen, and

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Speaker 3: that was really special. And then the Godzilla panel was amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was super stacked, a bunch of people came. We

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Speaker 3: of my friends and people that I love. So that

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Speaker 3: I played it pretty safe. I didn't really do too

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Speaker 3: generally I felt like it was very chilled out compared

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Speaker 3: is it for you and your low? Uh? You had

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Speaker 1: Let yeah, first of all, uh, I love a con

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Speaker 2: I love a convention.

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Speaker 1: If you've never been to SDCC or Dragon Con or

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Speaker 2: The magic of it. That's you can bet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see, you can meet fans who you

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Speaker 1: And I did host the House of the Dragon paneling

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Speaker 2: About more in a second. So we were doing interviews,

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Speaker 2: It was scared. It was scary.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's six thousand people.

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Speaker 2: There are six thousand people there. It was packed the lights.

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Speaker 1: I'm hosting the House of the Dragon podcasts, the official

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Speaker 1: He had he also has been very concerned about COVID,

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Speaker 3: this before. Like, feel free to let me know if

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Speaker 3: you've been in a panel where they've done this. But

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Speaker 3: they put screens on all three walls, so it wasn't

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Speaker 3: just behind the cast where you usually watch it. It

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Speaker 3: was down the side. So I bet it was just

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Speaker 3: absolutely stunning to watch the trailer in that hall.

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Speaker 2: Gosh.

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Speaker 1: Well, when I was up on the stage, I was

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Speaker 1: unable to process any visual information because my brain was

447
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Speaker 1: just like scrambled, and I was like, don't make a

448
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Speaker 1: fucking mistake. Next up the airlock where we're gonna go

449
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Speaker 1: into the MCU. Folks were stepping out of the airlock

450
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Speaker 1: into the multiverse saga toa breakdown the massive, massive amount

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Speaker 1: of stuff that Marvel Cudos dropped on everybody's head at

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Speaker 1: Comic Con, plus some additional news, and let's start with

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Speaker 1: Marvel Animation. So Marvel Animation panel was Friday, happened the

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Speaker 1: day before the hall Ah stuff and man, a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun stuff, and let's start here Marvel Zombies heiring

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Of course, we were introduced to the

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Speaker 1: concept over the course of what If and this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be epeed by zeb Wells, who is great and

459
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Speaker 1: super funny, and.

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Speaker 2: That makes you really exciting for Wells is involved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big that's a big, a big kind

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Speaker 3: of It's been a while since really the origins of

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Speaker 3: the MCU, since we've seen comic book create as being

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Speaker 3: bought on as creative forces for these shows. So that's

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Speaker 3: really cool.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that I think all Marvel Zombies fans,

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Speaker 1: comic fans of the comics are asking, is okay, but like,

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Speaker 1: how gory will it be? Marvel has said they are

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Speaker 1: gonna up the gore level from what we saw and

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Speaker 1: what If, so all the zombies chompling on people and

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Speaker 1: zombies getting dismembered, expect to see it. This is exciting

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Speaker 1: because I love Marvel zombies.

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Speaker 3: I would also say that I thought that for more.

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Speaker 3: I thought that what If did a good job of

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Speaker 3: already being. It was a pretty gruesome dark episode. So

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Speaker 3: if they're willing to promise more more than that, people

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Speaker 3: who want to see the goal will likely be very happy.

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Speaker 1: That was followed up by what If Season two, which

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Speaker 1: is going to come out in twenty twenty three. Season

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Speaker 1: two is going to feature Hella, Captain Carter Scarlett, Witch,

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Speaker 1: iron Man, Black Widow, doctor Strange. There'll be a third

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Speaker 1: season after that. I loved What If season one, so

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Speaker 1: very excited, and just to kind of jump ahead, Marvel animation,

484
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Speaker 1: very strong, very strong drops at this panel.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they were not afraid at all.

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Speaker 2: Not afraid at all.

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Speaker 1: Next up, something very close to our hearts X Men

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, Fall of twenty twenty three. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: the just hearing the soundtrack makes me very excited. It's

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Speaker 1: all your old pals, Rogue, Gambit, Wolverine, Jubilee, cyclop Storm,

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Speaker 1: Gid Gray the Beast plus Magneto and a nicely updated costume. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're doing it all Bishop, that's right, Cable, Sure, Nike Crawl

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Speaker 1: or yes, Sunspot also there.

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Speaker 2: I this is.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Look, let's go. We'll get into this. We

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Speaker 3: will get into this more soon in the in the

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Speaker 3: further part of this podcast. But I will say the

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Speaker 3: fact that night Crawler and sun Spot are included on

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Speaker 3: this team makes me believe that we are they are

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Speaker 3: very committed to what we call the giant size X

501
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: Men lineup, which is the one the issue relaunch that

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Speaker 3: launched the Chris Clairemont stuff that me and Jason always

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Speaker 3: talk about and you will only hear us talking about

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Speaker 3: more from now till twenty twenty five. But yes, night

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Speaker 3: Crawler and Sunspot here. That really says to me that

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Speaker 3: we're not gonna We're gonna be expanding out from that

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Speaker 3: original team which we've seen. And also this is very

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Speaker 3: interesting because this is you know, when we heard that

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Speaker 3: theme in MS. Marvel that we turned exactly that is

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Speaker 3: now known as same as it was in the Doctor Strange.

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Speaker 3: It's now known as the X Men ninety seven theme.

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Speaker 3: I think X Men ninety seven is going to be

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Speaker 3: the entry point for Marvel to reintroduce the Mutants into

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Speaker 3: the MCU, whether or not it's actually going to be

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Speaker 3: canon to the MCU, like all these are the same mutants.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not making a comment on that, but

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Speaker 3: I do think they see this in a very important

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Speaker 3: space to establish the characters who will likely be important.

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Speaker 1: Guy, I think this will be a primer. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Let's just like wildly and irresponsibly theorize for

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Speaker 1: a second, because I have a theory's love to do

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Speaker 1: this right. Either it's canon or it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be canon. If it's not canon, it's very simple, like

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Speaker 1: this is just an extension of the ninety seven series.

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Speaker 1: No big deal happens in some other multiverse. If they

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Speaker 1: ever wanted to bring plot points over whatever, it's not

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Speaker 1: part of six on six. If they did want to

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Speaker 1: do six one six, then you say, okay, thirty years ago,

529
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Speaker 1: back in the mid nineties, all this stuff happened. Then

530
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Speaker 1: Profess X wiped everybody's fucking mind and all the news

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Speaker 1: went underground because they were like, we're tired of this shit.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to fight anymore, No more awards. We

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Speaker 1: just want to live our normal lives undercovered, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 2: Maybe is that how.

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Speaker 1: They do it, I don't know, but that's the way

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Speaker 1: they could do it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's a great cool and I think

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Speaker 3: this lineup is very interesting. I also love Bishop so

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Speaker 3: and Forge, so I'm feeling very catered to her.

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Speaker 1: And a bunch of the original voice talent is going

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Speaker 1: to return cal DoD, Leonora's On, George Buza, others, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be joined by a whole new cast next

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Speaker 1: up Spider and Freshman Year. Details have been revealed. Uh,

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Speaker 1: classic Marvel villain known as the Wizard is gonna make

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Speaker 1: an appearance here, voiced by one of my favorites, Paul F. Tompkins,

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Speaker 1: whose Spontaneation podcast got me through a lot of dark

547
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Speaker 1: times in my life. Matt Mardoch voiced by Charley Cox,

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Speaker 1: is gonna is gonna play a role.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: This is a big deal because and I think even

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Speaker 1: talked about this.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 1: Just to briefly jump ahead, you're seeing Marvel kind of

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Speaker 1: establish the things that kind of make up the texture

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Speaker 1: of Marvel Comics, which is street level heroes, the Avengers level,

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Speaker 1: like the big teams be it X Men, be At Avengers, whoever,

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Speaker 1: and then the cosmic stuff like three levels. So it's like, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the local neighborhood crime fighters, you're kind of global crime fighters,

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Speaker 1: and then you're superheroes that exist outside Earth and in

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Speaker 1: the galaxy at large.

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Speaker 2: And this is part of the widening of that kind.

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Speaker 1: Of street level lore that is going to be really

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Speaker 1: really important.

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Speaker 2: We're going to see a lot of that, particularly on Disney. Plus.

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Speaker 2: This is really cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think something that's really cool about this

567
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Speaker 3: is Spider Man and Dead Evil. Those two characters are

568
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Speaker 3: intrinsically connected skin in the comic books, and it's been hard.

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Speaker 3: It's why every Not only was it exciting to see

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Speaker 3: Charlie Cox's return in Spider Man Noway Home, but that's

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Speaker 3: a touch point to these two worlds that in the

572
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Speaker 3: movies have never gotten to crossover before. So to have

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Speaker 3: him there and to have Charlie Cox, I will say,

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Speaker 3: this is very much We talk about this a lot

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Speaker 3: the Big two DC and Marvel. This is very much

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Speaker 3: Marvel learning from all the things that DC has done

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Speaker 3: in their animated world that worked for them.

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Speaker 1: PC has DC has been owning Animated for twenty years

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Speaker 1: and they not longer.

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Speaker 3: And they've often used the animation to introduce stuff and

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Speaker 3: characters and voices that would later become Cannon in the

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Speaker 3: CW live action stuff. And then they've taken people like

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan, who played Constantine to much success and love

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Speaker 3: and lording in the CW. He would voice Constantine in

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Speaker 3: some of the animated movies and they would do it

586
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Speaker 3: the other way too, So I really like to see

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Speaker 3: them doing that here. It's also very interesting because reporting

588
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Speaker 3: has said that Marvel has said that this is MCU

589
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Speaker 3: Cannon and is essentially this show will establish Peter's life

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Speaker 3: before Civil War. On the panel, Jeff Tremmel, who is

591
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Speaker 3: the showrun an amazing creative from Craig of the Creek,

592
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Speaker 3: just absolute brilliant. I was so excited when they announced

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Speaker 3: him on this, and it's going to be he says.

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Speaker 3: Spider Man Freshman Year is an animated series that follows

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Speaker 3: Peter Parker on his way to becoming Spider Man in

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Speaker 3: the MCU. So take that as you will, but it

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Speaker 3: sounds like with Charlie Cox being here, that to me

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Speaker 3: sounds like this is going to be important.

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Speaker 1: Now Here is the big the big news within that

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Speaker 1: Norman Osborne is going to be this, That is, he

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Speaker 1: will be Peter's mentor, which is a role that he

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Speaker 1: has played amongst other.

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Speaker 2: Roles, amongst many other roles of the colleagues.

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Speaker 1: So there are questions about how this is gonna work

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Speaker 1: because it was confirmed that he didn't exist in the MCU,

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Speaker 1: and how.

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Speaker 2: Well this all work. Will figure that out.

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Speaker 1: Either it will be cannon or a multiverse cannon or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but it will be interesting to see how this all

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Speaker 1: plays out. Let's go to Hall H for the live

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Speaker 1: action stuff, well mostly live action stuff, and phase four. First,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the big Figy map.

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Speaker 2: Actually you know what this.

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Speaker 1: Remember you will remember this, I'm sure. But somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the earlier part of the Brian Michael bendis rain at

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Speaker 1: Marvel and his like very very influential stranglehold that he

617
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Speaker 1: had at the time on big books. Remember Tony had

618
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Speaker 1: written like on the wall this big math problem prediction

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Speaker 1: about what was going to happen eventually, and all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff eventually paid off later on, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of in books after Bennis, but he had put it

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Speaker 1: with this massive like map in this room of like,

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Speaker 1: here's all the shit that's going to happen, and here's

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Speaker 1: the Avengers, and here's here's the threats that are going

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Speaker 1: to rise to meet the Avengers, and here's what that's

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Speaker 1: all gonna mean. And it just looked like this massive, massive,

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Speaker 1: massive equation. That's what it was like looking at the

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Speaker 1: Marvel display. And it started with the end of Phase

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Speaker 1: four and the reveal of the I Am Groot trailer,

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Speaker 1: which is a collection of five original shorts all center

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Speaker 1: around baby Groot that's gonna be released on Disney Plus

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Speaker 1: in August tenth.

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Speaker 2: And it looks really cute. This looks to be the

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Speaker 2: you know, telling the.

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Speaker 1: Story of Groot post Guardians of the Galaxy, after he

636
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Speaker 1: saved everybody's life, right and then got reduced to a

637
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Speaker 1: twig and then grew up. It looks like we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a bunch of scenes from his life that looks

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Speaker 1: fucking great.

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Speaker 3: I was blown away by the animation. Just looks see

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Speaker 3: animation and cute and slick and smooth and shiny and

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Speaker 3: experimental and fun and weird.

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Speaker 1: It's like pseudo stop motion but not but cg but

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Speaker 1: not stop motion. It's just like the textures there look fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I was real more exciting, Yeah, way more excited than

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Speaker 3: I thought I would be about a series of five shows.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, this looks great.

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Speaker 1: Next up, she Hulk first of all hit SDCC and

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Speaker 1: the kind of environs around SDCC with those placards and

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Speaker 1: handouts that kind of mimicked a like an ambulance chasing

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Speaker 1: lawyers kind of ad campaign, which was very, very smart.

652
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Speaker 1: You could call the number and you could hear the voicemail.

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Speaker 1: They hit the ground running with a new trailer which

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Speaker 1: has the vibe of kind of like a legal comedy.

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Speaker 1: I think they've the creators mentioned that Fleabag was an

656
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: influence here. You could really see it in some of

657
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: the in the moment when Jen breaks the fourth wall.

658
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: But I think, clearly, as we have, as we have

659
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: been theorizing this whole time, this pretty clearly takes place

660
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: before end game, before Hulk snaps.

661
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: With the Iron Man wantlet and then Fries.

662
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think so we righte we correctly I

663
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: think very fairly assumed that it was going to take

664
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Speaker 3: place during that situation. But my understanding from the trailer

665
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: and a et special feature today. The special feature showed

666
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 3: Bruce and she Hulk Jennifer getting into a car crash,

667
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: and I think that is why his arm is in

668
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: the sling. So they duped us, We thought so, and

669
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Speaker 3: in the et featurette that they revealed today, Tatiana Maslani,

670
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Speaker 3: who plays Jennifer, says she accidentally takes Bruce's blood and

671
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: then we see her whole cup at the site of

672
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Speaker 3: the car crash. So I think it also reveals this

673
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: new origin, which is they're in a car crash together

674
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: and his blood gets into her open wound. That's my guest,

675
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: sounds delightful, but I think that's the situation.

676
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: How do we think then that Bruce's arm has healed now?

677
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: To be fair, I think the common I think the

678
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: reason we think that his injured arm post endgame was

679
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: going to be permanent was because the Russo's basically said

680
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: that it was going to be permanent.

681
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: That was and he changed he had to arm, so

682
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: we were like, oh, well, this makes sense that it

683
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: will be before because his arm was fine, So.

684
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to find out how that happens. This

685
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: also teases the MCU introduction of Matt Murdoch.

686
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: In the full suit.

687
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Uh, and this looks fun. I'm excited for this and

688
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: also like you know, uh, x ray Vision Legend Cody

689
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: zig Zigler wrote for this. My friends my friend's fiance,

690
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: Dats Schwartz wrote for this. So I'm very excited on

691
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: many personal levels to see.

692
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: Friends and also as well just on an even more

693
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Speaker 3: personal level. You know, we were right about Dead Evil

694
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: being in this show, yes, everyone, we were, And we

695
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: were right about it being a Superhero of the week

696
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 3: show where it looks like she's going to be dealing

697
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: with a different powered person and their legal troubles, and

698
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: I think that that's really fun. I think the fleabag

699
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: stuff is very smart. It also harks back to the

700
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: most famous parts of She Hulk, which is that she

701
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: always broke the fourth wall. So I didn't ever really

702
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: smart to establish that before Deadpool comes, because she was

703
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: doing it years before Deadpool, you know, So I think

704
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: it's Yeah, it just looked really fun. They did great stuff,

705
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: like the placards they were giving out and the adverts.

706
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 3: You could call a number and it would it would,

707
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, tell you a little bit about the show.

708
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: And there's some really wild I've been working very hard

709
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: all morning looking at the trailer because there's a section

710
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: where that in the office there's a wall of comic books,

711
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: and I was finding out what all the comic books were.

712
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: One of them it is a reference to our good

713
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: pal Ghostwriter appears Johnny Blaze. Johnny Blaze the og ghost

714
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Speaker 1: Rider is one of those comics apparently, which is exciting.

715
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's also there's a poster in the et

716
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 3: thing that looks like a joke where it says Donny

717
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: Blaze instead, but it's very blowy, so it might just

718
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: be bad text, but I think it's a funny joke.

719
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: There's a ton of really weird stuff war Machine nineteen

720
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Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety five, which has the eat along warwear,

721
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: which is when Rody gets this weird alien armor. And

722
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 3: there's just a ton of weird fun things also in

723
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Unlike most of the Marvel Universe and especially in the MCU,

724
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: in the Sheehop comics, comic books actually exist, and the

725
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: fact that we're seeing that wall here is likely going

726
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: to tie into the actual narrative of the show. So

727
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: I think that's very cool.

728
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Up next, and this tugged at the heartstrings folks. Black

729
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: Panther will kind Of Forever, which is coming to theaters

730
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Speaker 1: of Umber eleventh. They dropped the trailer and I've watched

731
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: it probably fifteen twenty times. It's amazing for a lot

732
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: of different reasons.

733
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: Of course, this is going to be the.

734
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Movie that picks up after the passing of Chadwick Boseman,

735
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: and all of that kind of emotion is present in

736
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: the trailer and is surely going to be present in

737
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: the in the telling of this story, and in your

738
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: experience sitting in the theater watching it. Some really cool

739
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: big news is nay More confirmed. We see him, We

740
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: see him there, he looks great, He's got the Atlantans

741
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: beside him.

742
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Name Marita is going to be there. Now. You may

743
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: have noticed.

744
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Nay More not blue like the rest of his people. Well,

745
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: in the comics, that is awesome the case, and in

746
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: the comics the reason is because they've read kind of

747
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: This a couple of times. But essentially, like naymar is

748
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: thought of as Marvel comics first mutant, he is not

749
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: like the rest of the Atlantan Atlantean people. And by

750
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: the way, it's in the Atlantis, I forget the name

751
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: of it.

752
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, No, they haven't said whether or not

753
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: it's going to be Atlantis, but our general understanding and

754
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: guess based on the vision of name or that they've

755
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: represented and the fact that the actor who's playing him

756
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: is Latin American, is that it's going to be this

757
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: messo American inspired version of Atlantis. Also would make sense

758
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: because nay More is very similar because of these constant,

759
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: hilarious DC Marvel battles with Aquaman. We saw Jason murplay Aquaman.

760
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: They have very similar origin story of somebody who's human

761
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: and somebody who is Atlantean coming together, falling in love,

762
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: having a bit. So we're probably going to see a

763
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: very big change here and as you can see another

764
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: hint of that mutation that Jason talked about in the comics,

765
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: as they like you said, Marvel's first mutant is the

766
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: wings on the back of his legs, which we see

767
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: here is when he's a baby. And we see that

768
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: this trailer was just it blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: I'm sumptuous, sumptuous.

770
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. Just so many people have sort of

771
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: come up to me or commented to me that they

772
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: felt like that the delay of seeing the trailer was

773
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: because Marvel wasn't sure what to do post Chadwick's tragic passing,

774
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: but I think that Ryan Coogler always knew what he

775
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: wanted to do and has created something that is so

776
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: intentional and feels so emotional, and it's just going to

777
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: expand this world of because it's not just Name or

778
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: isn't the only new character introduced here. We get to

779
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: see Ree Williams for the first time Ironheart, you know,

780
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: and the introduction is so cool, and that's like and

781
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, a friend of the pod eviewing like that's

782
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: someone who is so integral and bringing Reui to life

783
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: in the comics and to see that on stage now

784
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: and also in a story about going to a Kanda

785
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: something else that you wrote, you know, this is it's

786
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: really going to expand out what it means to be

787
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: black panther, to be Wakandan and Wakanda's place in the world,

788
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: I think, and with Name more being introduced, it really

789
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: establishes I think, from here to Phase five, which we're

790
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: going to talk about in a minute, this opens up

791
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: and establishes a lot of the conflict that we're going

792
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: to see, and especially if you look back to the

793
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: comics where T'Challa is incapacitated in a coma and nay

794
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 3: More arrives and he's beginning to set up the cabal

795
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: with Dr Doom and Emma Frost and all these characters

796
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: that we can likely see coming to the MCU soon.

797
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: I think we can get a good picture of where

798
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: we're going to.

799
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Speaker 1: Go now as we can surmise from this trailer, there's

800
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: going to be we're going to see an on screen

801
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: depiction of the Atlantis Wakanda war, which of many of

802
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: you been asking about, where can I read up on this?

803
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: So not going to spoil like how it starts to

804
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: be the inciting event. I think the important thing to

805
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: understand is the bulk of the fighting of the conflict itself,

806
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: which is tragic and is like because the events kind

807
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: of get out of control of both nay More and

808
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: T'Challa in various ways, like they just take on a

809
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: momentum of their own, which makes it feel and it's

810
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: really a running b plot in in Hickman's New Avengers

811
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: series and the time runs out arc, but the inciting

812
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: incident happens in Avengers Versus x Men number eight from

813
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. That's going to be the thing that kind

814
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: of kicks it all off. So if you're reading through

815
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: the Hickman and you're like, oh, but how did this

816
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: all start? They do reference it, but if you want

817
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: to actually read where it starts, Uh, it's kind of

818
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: a it's an event that happens in the run up

819
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: uh to the to the climax of Avengers versus X Men,

820
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see that because that's going

821
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: to be a conflict where nymar is a really interesting

822
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: character because he is a hero, but he's also like

823
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: not quote unku.

824
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: He's not like a Steve Rogers good guy.

825
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: He's he's he's but over. Originally he was originally a villain.

826
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: He hates humans, which but he's an anti hero and

827
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: then he has become heroic.

828
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: He's attacked Earth many many times.

829
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Speaker 1: He's a really interesting backstory with with Steve.

830
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: Rogers and with Sue. Well.

831
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is joving ahead, but we know that

832
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Speaker 1: Fantastic four is eventually comic. Here's what's fun about Marvel

833
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: about a Wars, Marvel.

834
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: Gothings in general.

835
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Speaker 1: Uh, there is a long running subplot in Marvel Comics

836
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: of nay More just being really really hot for Sue

837
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Storm and not hiding it ever, being like, listen.

838
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: Why are you with this nerd? Like you know, you're

839
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: a queen? Yeah, what's you're a queen? You should be

840
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: with a fucking king, which is me. I would treat

841
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: you like the queen that you are now.

842
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Sue Storm is a family woman, obviously loves Read, although

843
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: he often ignores her. And here's the thing, nothing is

844
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: ever a quote unquote happened. I don't think I need

845
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: to go back and check.

846
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: But.

847
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: There's a part of Sue that is uh more than

848
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: flattered by the attentions that nay More places upon her.

849
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, if we get some really

850
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: messy love triangle between may More.

851
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: Read and Sue in the MCU, I will be absolutely

852
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: fucking delighted. I need it.

853
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean also as well, like the actor that they

854
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: cast to play nay More is hunky, like tayannuk Wata is,

855
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: just like they really made nay More hunk. So I

856
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: think the first thing that everyone was talking about is like, you,

857
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: who are you gonna cast as Read? Because you have

858
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 3: to make people believe that Sue would stay with you, Yes,

859
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: I think, And the other like it's just a tease.

860
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: But the other big thing in this trailer that everyone's

861
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: talking about is like, there is a new Black Panther,

862
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 3: even though we know that T'Challa has passed from the trailer,

863
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: because we see memorials to him and we see people

864
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: talking about their suffering and their loss. So you know,

865
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: we don't know. Nobody knows anything, but we do know

866
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: the comment that's why you come to xtra Vision. So

867
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: really it's quite easy to assume based on the comic books,

868
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 3: especially the two thousand and nine Black Panther series, which

869
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 3: you can go out and check and I think is

870
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: very worthwhile reading because it includes nay More, it includes

871
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: Shuri becoming Black Panther, and I believe that is likely

872
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: what we will see in this movie. I don't know

873
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: where the Suri will hold the Black Panther mantle going forward,

874
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: because they're about to do a new comic book about

875
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: all different people that's held the mantle, but I think

876
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: in this movie we will see something that echoes the

877
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: story in the comics, which is T'Challa is in a coma.

878
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: He's trying to heal his current wife storm of X

879
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: Men fame. Sadly, I don't think we'll see her here,

880
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: but she suggests Suri should take on the mantle. Sury

881
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: goes and sees bast the panther god, takes the and

882
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: bast is like, Nah, you're too arrogant, you're jealous of

883
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 3: your brother, You're not right. Suri sides that she needs

884
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: to sacrifice herself anyway to do the right thing, puts

885
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: on this immaculate black Panther suit, which I'm very glad

886
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: to see that they've redesigned for the movie. It looks

887
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: like because it was very boob front heavy in the comics.

888
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: And Shury does this self sacrifice, saves to' Charla and Storm,

889
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: and then is recognized as the new Black Panther by

890
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: the Panther God. So I think we could see something

891
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: along the lines of Sury going on her own journey

892
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: to take on the mantle of the Black Panther in

893
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: the wake of her brother's death. When I'm sure there

894
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: will be a lot of bureaucracy around who is going

895
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: to take on that mantle, I think we could we know.

896
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: Letitia Write's performance in the first one was such a

897
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: breakout that a lot of people had wondered if this

898
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: was going to happen even before the tragic passing of Chadwick,

899
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: So I think that it's a pretty safe bet, though

900
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: there are other options, you know, Nakia Lapita Nyongo. Yeah,

901
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: could have Umbaku Winston Duke, who is so beloved, though

902
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: I have to say we've seen the costume and Winston

903
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: Duke is a I don't think it's him.

904
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: That's sick enough.

905
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably going to be shurey. And

906
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: there are some leaks out there, so keep it if

907
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: you don't like spoilers, steep your eyes away from the toys,

908
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: because there are some leaks that seem to confirm certain aspects.

909
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: The trailer also shows Mikayla Cohle as now confirmed as Akka,

910
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: which is a huge bit because in the comics and

911
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: and Io Our Girlfriends and I know, people really want

912
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: to see that. That's Iowa is played in the movie

913
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: by the amazing flor Florence because somebody who can remember

914
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: from the Civil War scene that's really famous where she

915
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: stands up against black widow and yeah, just so much

916
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: cool stuff. This is really interesting because it's this really

917
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: emotional trailer that I think got everyone in the feelings,

918
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: but also like lays the groundwork for a lot of

919
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: what is to come, kind of like hidden under all

920
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: the tears. So I found it very interesting.

921
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I'm super excited.

922
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: Uh and I'll be saying that I'll be saying that

923
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot this is gonna be.

924
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: On it.

925
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: I mean, naym war is. It's huge.

926
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Like if we get eventually an Illuminati or even a

927
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Dark Ring Council, I.

928
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: Think we'll get. I think we get Cabal and then

929
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: that will lead to the Illuminati or I think, especially

930
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: with Norman Osbourne potentially joining the MCU in the Spider

931
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: Man Show, seems timely.

932
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: So the Cabal, for those of you you've heard us

933
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: talk about the Illuminati, which is like this collection secret

934
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: society of like the most powerful, smartest, all got all

935
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: men heroes in the Marvel universe, and the Cabal is

936
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: like the super villain version of that.

937
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: Phase five onto Phase.

938
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: Five and we go to ant Man in the Wasp

939
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: quantum Mania, which is gonna come out February seventeen, twenty three.

940
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: We got a poster for Quantumana, which includes a first

941
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: look at Cassie Lang in full costume, which the Young

942
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Avengers are assembling before our eyes. And of course the

943
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: villain this is a big deal is going to be

944
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Majors as Kang. Apparently one of the clips they

945
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: showed in the in the Hall, h Kang meets Scott

946
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: and is like, you're an Avenger? Have I killed you before?

947
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: Which is fantastic.

948
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Scott apparently has like a his part his his podcast

949
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: and his basicly his content creation side Hustle is going

950
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of this Modoc also confirmed to appear,

951
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: so fantastic, very excited for what looks to be our

952
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: first real taste of Kang as a villain.

953
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we saw and they revealed a poster that

954
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: had Cassie Lang recently recast Catherine Newton I believe is

955
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: the actor now and she we saw her in full

956
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: purple costume Stinger costume, not Stature. We thought it would

957
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 3: be Stature because that was her Young Avengers persona and costume,

958
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 3: but it looks like they're going for the bug theme,

959
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: so that was cool. Also, apparently in the panel they

960
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: showed a clip of Bill Murray's character, though they still

961
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: didn't reveal his name, but he is in the Quantum Realm,

962
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: which is where it seems like Cassie will meet Bill Murray,

963
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: maybe Kryla according to rumors, oh and good old Kang,

964
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: who we can't wait to see. Also, how's not going

965
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: to play into this? I need to know Modoc Villa.

966
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: That's very interesting.

967
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: Who do we think built Modoc in this world? Since

968
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: we haven't seen him, so we haven't seen him live yet.

969
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: Is this like an AIM?

970
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: I wonder if because this is here's a thing and

971
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about we've talked about that there could be

972
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: we've I mean, we've talked about this before. Or one

973
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: of the one of the super fun things about Marvel

974
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: comics is there's always an Aim hideout somewhere in any

975
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: city to be raided. These cult of crazy scientists who

976
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: are looking to create super weapons and in various ways

977
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: take over the world. We haven't seen Aim, of course

978
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: since iron Man two, and I wonder, excuse me, iron

979
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Man three, and so I wonder if we get more

980
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: Aim and then find out that one of the things

981
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: they did is built Modoc, who now runs the organizations

982
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: see a fucking crazy half robot.

983
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: A lot of one Division seem to be pointing towards

984
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 3: Aim with all the Beekeeper stuff because a famously wear

985
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: suits that look like beekeepers, and there was a lot

986
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: of aim illusion in one division, though they didn't ended

987
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: up just being more to do with Hydra. But I

988
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if we saw something around that also,

989
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 3: like Modoc originally was from tells a suspense like ninety

990
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: three and ninety four, I think is the first appearances,

991
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: and that is.

992
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: He was.

993
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: Therefore Captain America is a foil and a foe. So

994
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: I wonder if we could have something where this is

995
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: an old creation of Hydra or something that's kind of

996
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: been in stasis or been hidden somewhere and then comes out,

997
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: because that could be very fun explanation as to why

998
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: he looks the way he does, because if you've never

999
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: seen Modoc, he's essentially like a floating head with tiny

1000
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: arms and legs in a big metal head sock.

1001
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: He's Humpty Dumpty.

1002
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: He's Humpty dumpty. And it would make there's no reason

1003
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: that anyone would create something like that in a world

1004
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: where you can make a robot like Ultron now, you know.

1005
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: So I think having him as as an outdated but

1006
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 3: from the past brought into the future could work. Also

1007
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 3: could just be in the quantum realm. This could be

1008
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: something that somebody created, can could have created it, you know,

1009
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: and he's lots of interesting options.

1010
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: I will say also for the for the Sword Aim

1011
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: illusions in WandaVision, at least in the comics, a lot

1012
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: of crossover amongst the top scientists in both Shield Swords,

1013
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, at various other government agencies and the super

1014
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: villain super science villains community known as AIM. They there's

1015
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of crossover, and a lot of X Shield

1016
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: agents are are active AIM agents in Marvel comics, so

1017
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if we see in live

1018
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: action members of Sword or even X members of Shield

1019
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: now out of a job joining AIM and treating this.

1020
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: That's that your Yeah, that's a really good point, especially

1021
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: because Marvels really played around even with the connections between

1022
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: Hydro and Shield as we know, So I think bringing

1023
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: in more of that confusion around who's part of what

1024
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: storyline and which scientists, especially Sword, is definitely up in

1025
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: the air post one division. And we're also you know,

1026
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: we just saw Diva from Miss Marvel going rogue and

1027
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: being fired from the Department of Damage Control, So I

1028
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: think that could be space for a new kind of

1029
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: all powerful group.

1030
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: Next Secret Invasion, Now, this will debut Spring twenty twenty

1031
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: three on Disney Plus. We're going to see Samuel Jackson

1032
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: back as Nick Fury. We're going to see Ben Mendelssohn

1033
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: as our friend Tallos. The Scroll Kobe Smolders is going

1034
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: to return as Maria Hill, and I hope, you know comics,

1035
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: Hill got a good run at the head of Shield,

1036
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: and I hope we get something like that, because she's

1037
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: got a very different style than Nick Fury.

1038
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: And this is.

1039
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: We can guess this is going to have to do

1040
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: with Scrolls who are probably not as friendly as our

1041
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: friend Tallos, who have potentially four years been on Earth

1042
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: posing as various people in the government and perhaps notable

1043
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: people not just in the government, but in the superhero

1044
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: community and the kind of like military community that supports

1045
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: the super human community. So over the course of Secret Invasion,

1046
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: don't be shocked to find out that people that we've

1047
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: been watching on Disney Plus and.

1048
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: The various Marvel shows are.

1049
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: Maybe even the movies who have been active and appearing

1050
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: for a while, have been Scrolls.

1051
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: For an unknown amount of time.

1052
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: Now, why is this happening, Probably because the Scroll Empire

1053
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: was huge is huge. And while they are going to

1054
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: be you know, some friendly scrolls, some scrolls that are

1055
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: looking to live a peaceful life, there are also going

1056
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: to be warlike scrolls who are looking to take out

1057
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: any threat to them, and one threat to them might

1058
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: be this planet Earth that seems to have a lot

1059
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: of enhanced people showing up there. So we're going to

1060
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: find out that people that we don't think our scrolls

1061
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: are actually skulls over the course of this, and.

1062
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: This is leading directly into another Phase five announcement, which

1063
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: was Thunderbolts. The Thunderbolts were essentially established as a reaction

1064
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: to people losing faith in heroes because of the Scroll invasion,

1065
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: So you can assume that from Secret Invasion, all these

1066
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: things through Phase five are leading to the establishment of

1067
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: this superhero in inverted Comma's team that was revealed in

1068
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: a huge shock at the time to actually be a

1069
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: team of supervillains. So I think that those that is

1070
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: the beginning and the end of Phase five, and ironically,

1071
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: am Man in the West Coontomania seems like it's actually

1072
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: setting up more of what was revealed in What's going

1073
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: to be in Phase six, which was revealed at the

1074
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: end of the panel.

1075
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: So all which is to say, life on six one

1076
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: six is about to get very, very chaotic in a

1077
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. I think you can surmise from

1078
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: Secret Invasion, right, you mentioned the loss of trust and heroes.

1079
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Obviously no X Men news on the live action side,

1080
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: but as Rosie and I've discussed at length, a thing

1081
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: you're going to need to introduce the X Men and

1082
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: have them make sense in this world is a hatred

1083
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: and a distrust of heroes of powered people. We saw

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Speaker 1: a little bit, we got some flavors of it and

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Speaker 1: Miss Marvel and I think Secret Invasion is going to

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Speaker 1: lead us there.

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Speaker 2: The thunderbolts are.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm the guess is are going to be

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Speaker 1: a reaction to the kind of heroes that we have

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Speaker 1: seen in the past. These are going to be the

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00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: more like government brand military. The military here are heroes,

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: not these aliens, not these weird knows He's going to be.

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01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Are super soldiers, are super spies that are going to

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: be an answer to these uncontrollable aliens, uncontrollable you know, mutants,

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Speaker 1: although nobody has really said that in terms of powered people,

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Speaker 1: yet uncontrollable gods, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: These are gonna be the people that we control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we are gonna know as not only just

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Speaker 3: comic book fans, but also as you watch Phase five.

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that they're going to be using a lot

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: of dramatic irony to allow the viewers and the read

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Speaker 3: the watches of the shows to know that the Thunderbolts

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Speaker 3: are villainous characters, whether or not they might have a

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: redemptive aspect like us Agent that is someone we can

1105
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: almost assume is going to be I'm still a villainous person.

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Speaker 3: You know. These are the Elena. I'm like, put her

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01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: on the Avengers. I feel like she's a good she's

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: a good guy now, but like you know, she'll.

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Speaker 1: I think she'll the squad and then be like, exact,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go this far, and I want to,

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be that we're gonna know that

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01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: they're villains, even if they don't necessarily know. And I

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be really cool.

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Speaker 1: Next Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. This is the

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Speaker 1: final installment in this version of the Guardians of the Galaxy.

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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: Team James Gunn debuted the Guardians of the Galaxy Volume

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Speaker 1: three trailer.

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Speaker 2: They're in Hall h former extra vision guest Chuck Woody Wouji.

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Speaker 2: Yes is it came.

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Speaker 1: On stage as the High Evolutionary. Wow, folks, opening the

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: door to a potential live action debut of Rosie Knights.

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Speaker 2: Number one most wanted to see character. That's right, it's Bova, folks.

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01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: The legend of my Wondergre.

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Speaker 6: Bova has somebody who literally is now well known in

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: the LA film critics scene as the person who screamed

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Speaker 6: when they said Mount Wondergore in Doctor Strange and whateverse

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Speaker 6: of Madness screening.

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Speaker 3: I got so many messages people were like that was you,

1130
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 3: wasn't it? And I was like, yes, that was me.

1131
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Speaker 3: I could not be happier. This casting is stunning. It

1132
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Speaker 3: had been rumored. The costume looks amazing. The High Evolutionary

1133
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: is Marvel's maddest scientist.

1134
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: He is super weird mad science.

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. He debuted in Thor, which seems really unexpected in

1136
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty six, But from the beginning from the outset

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01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: when he was first appeared, he was immediately connected to

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Speaker 3: Wander and Pietro Maximov. They were on the hunt for

1139
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: why their mutant powers weren't were fading, and they were

1140
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: headed to Mount Wondergore. They're in a very brief, few

1141
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: panels appearance, which is so funny because on the cover

1142
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: they're like Quicksilver in the Skulet, which in the most

1143
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: useless brief appearance of all time, and it became this

1144
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: huge part of their law in that it's a Jack

1145
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: Kebby Stanley issue. So wonder Gore is very much in

1146
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: the image of what we saw Chuck Woody wearing this

1147
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: purple Jack Kirby esque cosmic costume, so they're obviously going

1148
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: that way. It's very relevant to what the Guardians are

1149
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: doing because this is also going to introduce Adam Warlock.

1150
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: He was teased in the stinger of Guardians of the

1151
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: Galaxy Volume two, but in the comics, in that part

1152
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: of the movie, he was in his cocoon phase. In

1153
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: the comics he's known as him and when he's in

1154
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: his cocoon phase, him is found by the High Evolutionary

1155
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: who names him Adam and raises him, and that is

1156
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: likely what we're going to see in Guardians of the

1157
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: Galaxy Volume three. This is just this is so cool and.

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Speaker 1: We are and we should add with the High Evolutionary.

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01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: You laid it out there, with the High Evolutionary's connection

1160
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: to both genetic engineering, high tech super advanced genetic experimentation,

1161
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: and with their retcon many many times, but still connection

1162
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: to Pietro and Wanda.

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Speaker 2: Here are more it means.

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01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: Somebody described it, here's more mutant stuff. Somebody on my

1165
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: Twitter and I forget who, and I'm sorry described it

1166
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: as even though there's no X Men stuff, it's like

1167
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: evidence of a black hole.

1168
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: You can see all the stuff.

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01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Or you can't see it, but you can see all

1170
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: the stuff around it. And that's what the High Evolutionary is. Apparently,

1171
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: it's more evidence of this black hole that is the

1172
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: X Men out there, and.

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Speaker 3: It actually makes it's really smart to do it this way,

1174
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: right because Thor wasn't the right place in the end,

1175
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: because of the way that Thor stories end up going,

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01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: and I love them, so I'm so happy, but to

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01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: introduce him as a cosmic being first, and then to

1178
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: later explain his human origins who he used to be,

1179
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: the story of the High Evolutionary of Herber, the man

1180
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 3: who wanted to evolve humanity and who did all these

1181
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: wild experiments until he met an inhuman scientist who had

1182
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: gone rogue who told him how to break the genetic code.

1183
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: That is in line with the comics. So I think

1184
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: Guardians of Galaxy three, we'll see high evolutionary, We'll see

1185
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: Adam Warlock, and then later on, as we get closer

1186
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: to the X Men Black Hole, we will start to

1187
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: see more of those connections becoming clearer more.

1188
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: Phase five we saw the graphics at least on that

1189
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: big Kevin Fagge Tony Stark super formula map for Loki

1190
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: Season two Echo, which is going to continue to widen

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: out the kind of street level adventures of our Marvel heroes,

1192
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: the Marvels continuing the Miss Marvel adventure in a team format.

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: Blade in Theaters saw no footage, but I just can't

1194
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: wait for I want to see that Ironheart on Disney Plus,

1195
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: which is going to be the continuing adventures we would expect. Williams,

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: who one of, if not the smartest person in the

1197
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: Morn Comics universe, Agatha Coven of Chaos, which is gonna

1198
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: spring out of the events of WandaVision Captain American New

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Speaker 1: World Order in Theaters and then this shocked me.

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: This shocked me.

1201
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: And I saw the news, I yelled, Jason loocked me.

1202
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: Daredevil Born Again Spring twenty twenty four on Disney Plus.

1203
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: And it's eighteen episodes. So what does this mean. I'll

1204
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: tell you what I think this means. We're getting a

1205
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: We're getting a Daredevil. First of all, we're getting a

1206
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: Daredevil Netflix format series on Disney Plus. And irrespective of

1207
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: what the kind of like week to week adventures are,

1208
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a big old showdown with

1209
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: our friend Wilson Fisk, who was introduced to Disney Plus

1210
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: in the events of Hawkeye. The Hawkeye series, Daredevil Born

1211
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Again Frank Miller, David Matsucelli simply one of the greatest.

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Speaker 2: Comic arcs out there. Pick it up. It's fantastic. And

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Speaker 2: I can't believe we're going to see a version of this, David,

1214
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know we talk about Maza Kelly's art all

1216
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: the time, but it's unbelievable. This is a very seminal

1217
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: and controversial story, but the thing that is important from

1218
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: it is this is a story about Wilson Fisk, Kingpin,

1219
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: trying to destroy Matt Murdoch's life on every level. On

1220
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 3: a personal level, on a business level, on a professional level,

1221
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: on a heroic level. That is what I think will

1222
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: one hundred percent be translated. Now what I'm very interested

1223
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: to see. They haven't announced that Debra Awn Waller is

1224
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: coming back as Karen Page, but this is a Karen

1225
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: Page story, so she is coming back. That's my prediction.

1226
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,479
Speaker 3: In the Netflix Deaed Devil show, they actually adapted something

1227
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: from Born Again in a far more empathetic and thoughtful way,

1228
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: which is Karen has a past as an addict, now

1229
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: indebed evil Born Again, Karen falls into addiction and becomes

1230
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: a sex worker, and that's used against Matt by Kingpin.

1231
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Speaker 3: I would I'm very interested to see. I feel like

1232
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: you can't do Born Again without Kingpin exploiting Karen. But

1233
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if what they'll do is to tie it

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: into the Netflix. He will be using things from her

1235
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: past to try and destroy their life now, rather than

1236
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 3: seeing Karen fall off the wagon or go through the

1237
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 3: kind of horrendous things that happened to her and Born Again,

1238
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if it will be Kingpin using things from

1239
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: her past as that personal way to destroy her.

1240
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Speaker 2: Let me.

1241
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: Similarly, one of the one of the hallmarks of Derder

1242
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 1: Born again. The comic version is the appearance of one

1243
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: of the experiments that were that came out of the

1244
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: Sprawling super Soldier program. This is a extremely deranged, mentally unstable,

1245
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: psycho killer super Soldier named Nuke who has an American

1246
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: flag on their face. I wonder if we either a

1247
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: get Nuke, the pill popping crazy super soldier who then

1248
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: goes on a rampage across New York as the Kingpin

1249
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: tries to draw Daredevil out, or if we get US

1250
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: Agent for a steeredevil.

1251
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: I wonder too, because Nuke. There was a version of

1252
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 3: Nuke that appeared in Jessica Jones yep in a very

1253
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 3: toned down I wonder if, like you said, I think

1254
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 3: you could do something very interesting with combining Nuke and

1255
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 3: US Agent into a foe for this because now even

1256
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: out Standerbolts, which was the last thing on this slate,

1257
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: I believe that those I believe that they will still

1258
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: pull the rugout from the viewers feet, as they did

1259
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 3: with the Thunderbolts. Was sold as a superhero team and

1260
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: then it was revealed in the pages of the comics

1261
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: that they were actually villains. And I think we could

1262
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 3: see something along the lines of that here, and having

1263
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: us Agent as an antagonist to Dad Evil would be

1264
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 3: a great way of setting that.

1265
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: Now Thunderbolts July twenty six, twenty twenty four in theaters,

1266
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: we've talked about it a little bit. We can assume

1267
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: from what we've seen on the Disney Plus side and

1268
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: some of the other Stingers, Black Widow, et cetera, that

1269
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: Julia Louis Dreyfus's character the Contessa, like Redyfontaine, will be

1270
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: assembling this team of anti heroes slash straight up villains

1271
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: pretending to be heroes, which leads me to wonder if

1272
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: we're setting up something like and people have heard us

1273
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: discuss this before, but a dark green paradigm as we

1274
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: head into to Phase six, right, at some point, you're

1275
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna need to put these heroes, as we saw in

1276
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: the Infinity Saga, on their heels. Maybe Thunderbolts is a

1277
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: reaction to that. We're gonna see the human governments just

1278
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: absolutely fed up at this point with the destruction, with

1279
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: the flouting of the Cecovia Corps, with all the fucking bullshit,

1280
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: with all the new super people popping up that nobody

1281
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: can control.

1282
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: Nobody knows who they are.

1283
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: Some of them are teenagers and Jersey City there and they're.

1284
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: Out here and nobody can control them. We need our heroes.

1285
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: And more than that, we.

1286
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: Need a governmental uh strategy and plan uh and people

1287
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: within the highest reaches of government who are going to

1288
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: hunt heroes, take them, uh, you know, imprison them if

1289
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: need be, and hold them to a lawful standard if

1290
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: they don't say register or if they don't become part

1291
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: of this government program to basically nationalize heroes.

1292
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 2: Uh. I wonder if we're going to see something like that.

1293
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 3: I think so. I also think something that's really interesting.

1294
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about a lot since this Spider Man

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Speaker 3: announcement with Freshman Year is I wonder in Norman Osborne

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Speaker 3: is inherently connected to Dark Grain in the comics I

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Speaker 3: Wonder and Yeah and Thunderbox. Willem Dafoe, as as Norman

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Speaker 3: Osborne in no way Home claimed Harry doesn't exist here,

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Speaker 3: doesn't look he was. He was nice in some moments,

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Speaker 3: but he's still the Green Goblin. I wonder if he

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Speaker 3: was just lying like I wonder if he was just

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Speaker 3: he wanted to just protect whatever version of his time

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Speaker 3: him and his son were on this earth. I actually

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Speaker 3: think that could be very smart. It wasn't. That wasn't

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Speaker 3: a concrete establishment of Cannon. That was a covering up

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Speaker 3: for his version, his six one six shall we call it,

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Speaker 3: version of himself and Harry, who potentially do exist in

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Speaker 3: this world and who at this moment Norman could be

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Speaker 3: putting together the team. He could be the puppet master

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Speaker 3: behind Contessa.

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Speaker 1: Ever since Benedict Cumberbatch came out and said, I am

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Speaker 1: not con in the second Star Trek movies, I don't

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Speaker 1: believe anything any actor says because they got to say

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Speaker 1: some stuff. Sometimes they just have to. So take William Dafoe,

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Speaker 1: the Great William Dafoe's comments with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 1: and we will see what happens. Now we're on the

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Speaker 1: Phase six and this is the Multiverse saga. First Fantastic

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Speaker 1: four and Overber eighth. We just got the we saw

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Speaker 1: the graphics and can't wait. Phase six is the basically

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Speaker 1: the climax of the Multiverse saga, and it starts with

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Speaker 1: Fantastic four Novermber eighth, twenty twenty four. Big question here

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Speaker 1: is are they from an Aulter dimension? Are they from

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Speaker 1: our dimension? Or how does this happen, But I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to find out if it's multiverse. I would not

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Speaker 1: at all be shocked if the Fantastic Four appear in

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Speaker 1: six one six because of the experiment that gave them

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Speaker 1: powers opened a hole to another dimension.

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Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, yea here and they're the Fantastic Four.

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Speaker 3: Also, they're just in the quantum realm or the negative

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Speaker 3: zone that somebody finds like, there's so many ways, and

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Speaker 3: I think that makes the most sense for where we're

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Speaker 3: at now, and the fact this is called the multiverse saga,

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Speaker 3: and the fact that we have Kang the Conqueror. I

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Speaker 3: don't think Marvel needs to do the hole well that

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Speaker 3: you know, Captain America had retired, so then these people

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Speaker 3: thought we'll go to space and try and become Superos

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Speaker 3: or whatever version you'd have to retroactively do to fit

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Speaker 3: them into the MCU. Now, I think a multiverse or

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Speaker 3: Fantastic Four fits.

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Speaker 2: With the team, fits fits with the.

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Speaker 3: World, and would be really fun. I want to see

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Speaker 3: the Fantastic Four as already established heroes. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: that's so much fun to see.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And they that movie will be followed up on May second,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five by Avengers King Dynasty, helmed by Destined

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Speaker 1: Daniel Criton, who of course directed Hung Chi and the

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Speaker 1: Legend of the Ten Rings. This if we can, you know,

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Speaker 1: using Infinity War End Game as kind of a map,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be the Kang Wins movie.

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Speaker 2: Council.

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Speaker 1: I would expect to see the Council of Kang's I

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Speaker 1: would expect to see Kang triumphant, and I would expect

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Speaker 1: to see Kang put our heroes. I mean, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: think Kang kills a lot of Marvel heroes. Just because

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Speaker 1: of where we are in the evolution of the MCU,

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Speaker 1: I think Kang is gonna he is going to end

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Speaker 1: a lot of our heroes.

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Speaker 3: I agree. And the there's a comic book. It's really interesting,

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Speaker 3: both of the Avengers movies that they announced. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to the next one yet and it's another we were right, uh,

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Speaker 3: but the Kang Dynasty that actually is the title of

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Speaker 3: a comic book, as asked. You know, Marvel loves to

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Speaker 3: do that. And it can be anywhere as it can

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Speaker 3: be anywhere as directly taken from as Winter Soldier, which

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Speaker 3: is so close to the comic, or it can be

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Speaker 3: civil War, which is much more loose, or you know,

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Speaker 3: it can be Infinity War, which is very different to

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Speaker 3: the comics. So there is a storyline called Kang Dynasty

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Speaker 3: also known as Kangwar by Kirk Booziak with Alan Davis

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Speaker 3: Kirngui I recommend it, Ivan Reese, and that the kind

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Speaker 3: of general summation of it, which I think is very

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Speaker 3: likely it's happened in the MCU, is like Kang basically

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Speaker 3: goes to the UN and is like, Hey, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to take over the world to save you from yourselves

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Speaker 3: and stop every other bad timeline. So it kind of

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Speaker 3: leans into the TVA of it all and what we've

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Speaker 3: already seen. I don't think it's going to be directly that,

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Speaker 3: but I do think it's going to be Kang coming,

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Speaker 3: like you said, killing a ton of heroes and basically

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Speaker 3: saying you don't need them. I'm here now, let's work

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Speaker 3: it out. Let's see what we can do to because

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Speaker 3: Kang's always coming at it from the idea like kind

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Speaker 3: of like low Ki in the original Avengers. It's like

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Speaker 3: kind of benefactor. I'm gonna be a terrible fascist leader

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Speaker 3: who takes over everything, But it's going to be better

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Speaker 3: for you, I promise, I promise. So I think it'll

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Speaker 3: be really interesting to see. And I love that they

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Speaker 3: they announced Destin Daniel Cratton as a director for this.

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Speaker 3: I think that is so cool because I was a

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Speaker 3: big fan. Well, we were both big fans of Shang

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Speaker 3: Chi obviously, So a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of Avengers are going to die in this movie,

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Speaker 1: and then it will be followed up by Avengers Secret Wars.

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Speaker 1: So listen, we've already seen some incursions, we've seen visualizations

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Speaker 1: of incursions. We've heard Dimension most recently, and Doctor Stranger

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Speaker 1: of the Multiverse of mad As we understand it's a

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Speaker 1: thing that can happen over the course of King Dynasty.

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Speaker 1: We're guessing the end of King Dynasty is gonna be

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Speaker 1: incursion after incursion after incursion, in the final kind of

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Speaker 1: collapse of the multiverse into a single point. Avenger's Secret

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Speaker 1: War is going to take place in that single point,

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Speaker 1: probably a warped version of reality ruled by question Mark,

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Speaker 1: ruled by Doctor Doom.

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Speaker 2: We will have we don't know.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic potentially, but yeah, you know, in the most recent

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Speaker 3: Secret Wars arc, which we talk about a lot, Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Hickman and Asaravich like we talk about that because there

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Speaker 3: is this notion that they used for a huge limewide event,

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Speaker 3: but also in the story of Battle World where all

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Speaker 3: these different communities and dimensions are put onto one Earth

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Speaker 3: and they have to fight each other. We have been

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Speaker 3: seeing them establish something along those lines, as we've talked

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Speaker 3: about on the podcast, with multiple secret societies in different

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Speaker 3: spaces and different fighting styles. And the most interesting thing

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Speaker 3: about this at all, as comic book nerds like we are,

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Speaker 3: this very much follows the rules of comic books. The

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Speaker 3: multiverse saga. We have talked a lot. Oh, they keep

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Speaker 3: introducing these multiverses. The multiverse exists, Does it not exist?

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Speaker 3: They're closing the time loop. No, this is the multiverse saga.

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Speaker 3: Every movie from now on and has been is going

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Speaker 3: to have something to do with the multiverse, and it's

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Speaker 3: because they want you to know how big the world is.

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Speaker 3: All these different characters can come in mutants, fantastic for

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Speaker 3: whoever you need, Norman Osborne, Harry Osborne. And then when

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Speaker 3: Secret Wars comes, they will be able to streamline, as

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Speaker 3: they did with the comics, all their universes and take

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Speaker 3: in the things that they want to keep and get

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Speaker 3: us and the things that they don't and we will

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Speaker 3: have what is essentially a new MCU and a new phase.

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Speaker 2: Let's give DC there.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps this is the infinite This is the crisis on

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Speaker 1: Infinite Earth's method.

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Speaker 3: Yes, everything exactly DC has been you know, this is

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Speaker 3: the constant ebb and flow of DC and Marvel. But

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Speaker 3: DC is definitely established. You know, we've mentioned it before.

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Speaker 3: DC established an understanding of what the multiverse was for

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Speaker 3: moms watching the CW years before Marvel even considered it. Like,

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Speaker 3: there is a cultural literacy around this term because of

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01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: the work of DC and Marvel, And it's definitely the

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Speaker 3: crisis on Infinite Earth's idea of streamlining. And also, even

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Speaker 3: though they only mentioned three movies, this is a false slate.

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Speaker 3: It had the full Kevin Figy Tony Stark timeline. So

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Speaker 3: there are multiple movies and projects that we don't know

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Speaker 3: about yet. My guess D twenty three in September we

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 3: will probably find those out, yes, but for now, these

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Speaker 3: are the three. I mean. Also, Avenger's Secret Wars comes

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Speaker 3: out literally like just months after Kang Dynasty, so they're

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Speaker 3: looking to make two billion that year.

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Speaker 1: Now we don't know who will even be on these

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Speaker 1: Avengers teams. First, I should know, let's read this quote

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Speaker 1: from Kevin Faggy talking about why only two Avengers movies

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: and at the end basically of the phases that were announced, quote,

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Speaker 1: you know, we realize it's very different than Phase one,

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Speaker 1: two three, that there are more projects and less years,

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Speaker 1: and therefore it didn't seem right to culminate. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to culminate every ten months in an Avengers movie.

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Speaker 1: And each of the films themselves now has become quite

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Speaker 1: big in across our events in many ways, and after

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Speaker 1: the creative experience we had with Infinity Warren Endgame, it

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Speaker 1: felt like it was about capping a saga, saving back

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Speaker 1: to back Avengers films for the completion of a saga.

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Speaker 1: And that's really what we wanted to lay out. So

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Speaker 1: let's just again get irresponsible fan casting wise. Who's going

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Speaker 1: to be on these Avengers teams? Who do we we

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Speaker 1: see here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I Shangchi is going to be on the

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Speaker 2: Shangxi is gonna be on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that the Kang Dynasty is probably going

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Speaker 3: to be a Thunderbolt Stark Avengers team that's probably not

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Speaker 3: going to do a very good job.

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Speaker 2: And fucking yeah wiped out by Keg.

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Speaker 3: I think it could happen, you know, and then as suit,

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Speaker 3: I think that we're in an era. If we look

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Speaker 3: at the movies that have been announced, there was a

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Speaker 3: there was an era of the Avengers just post Marvel now,

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Speaker 3: which was a big line wide relaunch in like twenty

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Speaker 3: twelve went on. That's where Miss Marvel comes from. That's

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Speaker 3: where the amazing Jane Mcalviy, Cure and Gillen young Avengers

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Speaker 3: era comes from. I think there was an era of

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Speaker 3: Avengers around that time which had Sam Wilson as Captain America,

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Speaker 3: who we know is about to be Captain America in

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Speaker 3: New World Order. Captain Marvel was on that team. Miss

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Speaker 3: Marvel was on that team. I think that there I

1485
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: don't necessarily know that they're going to have someone as

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01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: young as Miss Marvel, but I think we could see

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: a world where there's going to be legacy heroes. We

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Speaker 3: could see a Monica Rambo on the team, Sam Wilson

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Speaker 3: on the team, Shane definitely, Kate Bishop Hawkeye. I think

1490
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Speaker 3: that we're going to get to see multiple Avengers teams

1491
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 3: because they is going to be multiple threats. Kang is

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Speaker 3: not just a singular being. As we know in the comics,

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Speaker 3: he's taken on many forms. So I think that we're

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Speaker 3: going to have a failed Dark Avengers Thunderbolt style team,

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Speaker 3: then an Avengers team. But then I also by the

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Speaker 3: time that we get to Secret Wars, I think we're

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Speaker 3: talking about West Coast Avengers, Young Avengers, New Avengers. I

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01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: think everybody, everyone who's in their different location will I

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Speaker 3: think King Create.

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Speaker 1: I think King Dynasty, much like the comics where it

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Speaker 1: probably comes from, We're going to see, to your point,

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Speaker 1: we're going to see fighting in multiple timelines. We're going

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Speaker 1: to see fighting in the farthest in past, right, a

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Speaker 1: team that goes back into the past to maybe try

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Speaker 1: and head off Kang before he becomes King. We're going

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: to see a team fighting King in the quote unquote present,

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: trying to hold off whatever he's trying to do, and

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: probably the Fantastic Four, somebody fighting Ya in the future.

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01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: And again it's going to be we predict it's going

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01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: to be a bloodbath.

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Speaker 2: And that's it. That was a lot.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I just want to say the last thing.

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Speaker 3: I do think, so I do know that I do

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: think that the X Men thing is a big gap,

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01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 3: but there's a lot of gaps in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I think that Secret Wars, speaking of teams, could be

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01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: a space to see the X Men, because if we

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01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: look back to the original eighties Secret Wars, that was

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01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: really the first big lime wide crossover where you've got

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 3: X Men, Avengers, all these different teams together. So that

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: would be I would love to see a pre Secret

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01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: Wars X Men movie in twenty twenty five, but I

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 3: actually think that might be the smart bet for where

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01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 3: we're going to see the official X Men rather than mutants.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Now, some of you had questions, and some of them

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01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: are very good ones that touch on a bunch of

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01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: the stuff where we're talking about, and some of the

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01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: questions certainly arise from the various news drops from a

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Speaker 1: hall h Let's start with Trevor, who asks, is the

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01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: Kang from Loki actually dead or is that the same

1532
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Kang We'll see an ant Man, the Wasp three and beyond,

1533
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: or always see multiple Kangs since Loki Kang said him

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Speaker 1: being alive at the TVA were the only things holding

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01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,839
Speaker 1: each multiverse. A'd pay this is a great question.

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01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: This is the question that's the question.

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01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: It's the question.

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Speaker 1: So I mean Rosie wanted you lay it up. But basically, Trevor,

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01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: I think you got it that Kang is dead. But

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: there are many many Kings. Yea, many Kangs.

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01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: If you're going rather than digging deep into the comics,

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01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: which I do love to do, so please go and

1543
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: look up Kang. He's so much fun. There's so many Kangs.

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01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 3: They could have an infinite number of Kangs in this

1545
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: MCU if you base it on the comics. But as

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01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: you so smartly said, Trevor, if you look just at

1547
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 3: Loki and the moment where he's showing that his descendant

1548
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: or his ancestor worked out how to go to the multiverse,

1549
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: and then it's all these different Kangs going throughout the timelines.

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01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: Without the existence of the TVA and the pruning, we

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 3: can assume that those Kangs all now exist the cart us,

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01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 3: all different types of Kang. My I have a personal

1553
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: theory that I hope is what we're going to see

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 3: in Quantumania. I don't know how true this is going

1555
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 3: to be, ok, I hope that the Kang that they

1556
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: meet there at least begins as an ally and then

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01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 3: becomes the antagonist because I think that'd be a really

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01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 3: interesting journey. I also wonder if the Kang that we

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01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: see in Quantumania who is in the Quantum Realm is

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01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 3: the descendant or ancestor of Kang who discovered the multiverse,

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01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 3: because it seems like the timeline would work out and

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01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 3: then we end up in this core referential loop. But

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01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: basically I doubt that He who Remains will be the

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01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Kang that we see in A Man and the Quantumania.

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01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't be surprised if we saw He

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01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 3: who Remains again much further down the line, returning to

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:56,520
Speaker 3: help fight.

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,919
Speaker 1: As I guess that you know. One of the questions

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01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: the key a listener Katie had it was he who

1570
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: remains lying about being the Kang that defeated all the Kangs.

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01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that make any other version of King we see

1572
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: less formal?

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: No? I love that question there.

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: It's a great question. The thing you've got to realize

1575
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: about Kang is like he's done all of this like

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: infinite amount of times. It's like playing through a video

1577
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: game as many times as you want to play through

1578
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: it to understand how exactly it works. And that is

1579
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: he who remains a more refined version control freaky version

1580
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: of Kang who's thought about every possible angle to the

1581
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: story as he lays out there in Loki.

1582
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: Now, the other versions of.

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01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Kang maybe haven't laid out all the angles, but they're

1584
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: also just like a lot more warlike than he who remains.

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, also as well, if you think about it, am

1586
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 3: I getting into time loop stuff now? Which is fine

1587
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: and tin lines an MCU multi vast. Technically, if every

1588
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 3: single verse of the timeline existed, there is a version

1589
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: where someone beat he who remains Even if the version

1590
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 3: that we ended up in and Loki was a version

1591
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 3: where he who remains one, there are other versions of

1592
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 3: Kang who will have defeated him in other timelines. That's

1593
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 3: just the nature of timelines and the infinite timeline kind

1594
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: of theory. So it's really fun, and I love that

1595
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: you guys are asking these questions because these are absolutely

1596
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 3: the questions that are going to be driving forward Kang's

1597
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: story arcs we as we go into these phases.

1598
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Cody asks, is Armor War's gone? If so, how does

1599
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 1: this affect your sentinel theory?

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01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Code? Armors is not gone, Rosie, you have.

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01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I was as you can imagine number one Armor's sad.

1602
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: I was actually really worried. But you see Leicester, who

1603
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: is the showrunner of Armores, did a very funny postwag

1604
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 3: just says, I promise it is coming out and posted

1605
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: a picture of Rody in the armor. My gut says,

1606
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 3: because of how quickly Secret Invasion is coming out, much

1607
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: sooner than any of us thought, right, I think Armor

1608
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 3: Wars will be revealed sooner rather than later, perhaps as

1609
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 3: a surprise drop or further down the line than we thought.

1610
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: But I think I was really happy to see that

1611
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: was still confirmed. Yeah, and I think Armor was going

1612
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 3: to play a big part into the Sentinels. I also

1613
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 3: think that they're establishing weirder parts of the MCU law,

1614
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 3: so there's a lot of fun ways they could go.

1615
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: But so far we've confirmed it's still happening, and I'm

1616
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 3: very excited for it.

1617
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: And so for those of you who have not heard

1618
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: our Sentinel theory, the Sentinel theory is that the Stark

1619
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: drones used by Damage Control to hunt Kamala, etc. Are

1620
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 1: a early, early, early precursor to what will become the

1621
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: Sentinel program. I think that's still on the table, and

1622
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: obviously with the long kind of timeline before we get

1623
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: to any near an X Men team. I think there's

1624
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: plenty of time for that, for that technology and that

1625
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: storyline to develop. And then Thomas asks, we had Infinity Saga,

1626
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: then Multi Versaga, what do we have next? Need to

1627
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: know what happens by twenty thirty, Well, I mean, like

1628
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: I think what will happen? Expect that they're going to

1629
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: introduce the X Men right after this, I think seven

1630
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: or eight day and we're going to have a lot

1631
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: of our original talent off the board, probably all of them, right,

1632
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: and maybe Sam Jackson still around, but most of them

1633
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: will be gone. And I think what you're going to

1634
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: see is a reorientation of the MCU around the X Men.

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: It's going to be X Men stories that are kind

1636
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: of like running things, less so Avengers stories. And I

1637
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: think listen, one of the big comic crossover events in

1638
01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: the Marvel in Marvel of the last deck Aid plus

1639
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: or so was Avengers versus x Men. Yeah, I would

1640
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,640
Speaker 1: not be surprised in an x saga and the emergency

1641
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: if we have you know, we have the emergence of mutants,

1642
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 1: the globe panicked by all these superpowered people, appearing if

1643
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: we don't have a showdown of some sort between the

1644
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: X Men and the Avengers.

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01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: No, I think you're absolutely right, and I think you

1646
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 3: really summed it up. I think that for that to happen,

1647
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:28,480
Speaker 3: the Mutant saga, it is X Men stories, Mutant stories,

1648
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: everything and everything else is on the outskirts to the

1649
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 3: point where we'll probably it will probably almost feel jarring,

1650
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: but in a good way. And I think that your

1651
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 3: penultimate or ultimate movie there is Avengers versus X Men

1652
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 3: because Magneto is doing too much, Charles is doing too much.

1653
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 3: They're both doing too much all the time in the comics,

1654
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 3: but hypothetically one of them is doing too much. Maybe

1655
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 3: the emergence of Crocola as it exists now, which is

1656
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 3: like a planet where the X Men live. You know,

1657
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:01,679
Speaker 3: there's lots of different ways that an Avengers team could

1658
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 3: see the X Men as a threat and then post

1659
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: that you can have the world I think a lot

1660
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 3: of people have wanted since two thousand and eight, which

1661
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 3: is you would have your twenty thirty onwards would be

1662
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: X Men and Avengers together in the MCU. That's it

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01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: for us.

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01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Big thank you to Rosie Knight for joining us.

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Today Rosie plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs, what

1666
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: do you gotta plug?

1667
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Oh, if you want to know more about this stuff,

1668
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 3: I will. I will have big explainers going up on

1669
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 3: Nerdict about Churi High Evolutionary. They'll actually probably all be

1670
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 3: up by the time you listen to this. Also about

1671
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: the Thunderbolts. I will have a really cool vibe check

1672
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 3: piece that should be up at Polygon. There will be

1673
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 3: some other cool stuff going on. Oh my god' Silla

1674
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 3: comic It comes out actually really, it's going to be

1675
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 3: out on Wednesday, August the third, which is very exciting.

1676
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 3: We're going to go and next week I guess we

1677
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 3: should be able to tell you about the care giveaway

1678
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 3: that we're going to do and you can go to

1679
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 3: your comic shop and buy that you can enjoy it.

1680
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 3: Hopefully we will be. I'm doing two different signings in

1681
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm doing a signing at Nostalgic Comics, which is in

1682
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 3: San Gabriel with Mark Martinez is my very good friend

1683
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 3: who is the cover artist of the book, and Oliver

1684
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 3: Owner who is the interior artist, and that will be

1685
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 3: from twelve till three on Wednesday, the day that The

1686
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 3: comic comes out Wednesday, the third of August, and then

1687
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: on Saturday, the sixth of August. I know dates. We

1688
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 3: will be doing a massive Godzilla Day at my local

1689
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 3: comic book shop, Pulp Fiction, where it be all kinds

1690
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 3: of artists. You can come and buy the comic, you

1691
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 3: can get some cool Godzilla art, you can have fun,

1692
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 3: you can say hello. So those are two really cool

1693
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: things that are coming up. If you want to find me,

1694
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram, Rosie Marx also Letterbox. That's my only

1695
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,560
Speaker 3: two social medias. So yeah and yeah, obviously.

1696
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,080
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01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:11,160
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