WEBVTT - What's the Most American Place in the World?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what mango?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that? Will?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was looking up little American influences around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like how in Japan a hot dog is

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<v Speaker 3>called a Hota dog ou, but a corn dog is

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<v Speaker 3>called an American dog oo.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. What else you got?

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<v Speaker 3>Potlucks are called American parties in the Netherlands, and one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorites, brass knuckles, are referred to as an

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<v Speaker 3>American fist from France. But the thing I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you about was this little town in Brazil called Americana.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, when the.

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<v Speaker 3>Confederacy lost the Civil War, about twenty thousand Confederates fled

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<v Speaker 3>to Brazil, where they established two colonies. There was New

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<v Speaker 3>Texas and Americana. But what's crazy is that it still

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<v Speaker 3>has this touch of America there. You can spot rocking

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<v Speaker 3>chairs on porches, families still speak English with a Southern drawl,

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<v Speaker 3>and they still make sweet potato pots. This has all

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<v Speaker 3>been passed down since the eighteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But it got me wondering, if we ever decided

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<v Speaker 3>to leave America, what's the most non American American place

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<v Speaker 3>out there? Is it another country? Is it a US

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<v Speaker 3>territory and what is it that makes America America? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>other than corn dogs, of course, let's dive in. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>their podcast listeners, Welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Will

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<v Speaker 3>Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good friend

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<v Speaker 3>Mangesh how Ticketter, and today we're talking about the most

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<v Speaker 3>American places in the world, at least ones that just

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<v Speaker 3>so happen to be located outside the US.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. We're gonna look at some foreign places that,

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<v Speaker 2>for one reason or another, have a very distinct American feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're also going to explore a few offshore territories

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<v Speaker 2>to see which parts of the States have rubbed off

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<v Speaker 2>on them and to help make.

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<v Speaker 3>Sense of these somewhat mysterious locales. Will be talking with

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Mack, author of the book The Not Quite States

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<v Speaker 3>of America Now. Doug spend a year touring the US

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<v Speaker 3>territories and came away with all kinds of amazing information

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<v Speaker 3>about the parts of our own country that many of

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<v Speaker 3>us tend to forget even exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super excited to talk to him and for our

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<v Speaker 2>quiest today, we've also got a couple of part time

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<v Speaker 2>Geniuses calling in from Washington, d C. We're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 2>their thoughts on living in a city that's got quite

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<v Speaker 2>a chip on his shoulder thanks to its not quite status.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, DC residents are not shy about their frustration with

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<v Speaker 3>the federal District's lack of statehood. I mean, for almost

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years now, the motto on their license plates has

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<v Speaker 3>been taxation without representation. Compare that to what most states

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<v Speaker 3>put on their plates, and you'll get a sense of

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<v Speaker 3>how heavily the whole not a state thing weighs on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Most states use the space to brag about

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<v Speaker 2>their accomplishments, like Ohio's plate Tatsa as the birthplace of aviation,

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<v Speaker 2>and Utah uses the plate to boast that they have

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest snow on earth.

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<v Speaker 3>How did Utah determine that it has the best snow

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<v Speaker 3>in the world. That seems pretty subjective. I mean, who's

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<v Speaker 3>to say theirs is the greatest?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's funny because states get away with ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>statements like that all the time, like Virginia's for lovers.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, now, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a very scientific study, and it's the same with Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact checkers have shown that it isn't the driest or

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<v Speaker 3>the fluffiest or the most abundant snow, but they called

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<v Speaker 3>their unique mixture of snow the best.

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<v Speaker 2>On earth, the unique mixture.

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<v Speaker 3>When you try to think of a country that's most

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<v Speaker 3>like the United States, what comes to mind first?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's got to be our neighbor to the north.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, or at least in theory.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Canada is likely the place the average American

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<v Speaker 3>would say they'd feel most at home. And that's partly

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<v Speaker 3>because most Americans have a really positive view of Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>So last September, a poll from NBC and The Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street Journal showed that seventy five percent of American surveyed

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<v Speaker 3>viewed Canada favorably. Well, only three percent had a negative

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<v Speaker 3>view of Canada. And by the way, those were the

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<v Speaker 3>highest ratings in the poll. People liked Canada more than

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<v Speaker 3>any other person or entity they were asked about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty incredible. But I mean, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>those three percent are, because I can't imagine anyone actively

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<v Speaker 2>disliking Canada me either. Everyone knows they're pretty much like

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest people on earth, plus their land of great comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>like Lorne Michaels, Samantha bead kids in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say kids in the hall mainly

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<v Speaker 3>just kids in the hall, right, So what's not to like?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what's funny, Remember how much love Canada

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<v Speaker 3>got the night of the twenty sixteen election. Sure, as

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<v Speaker 3>the votes were tallied, there were all these reports about

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<v Speaker 3>Canada's immigration site crashing due to a stampede of less

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<v Speaker 3>than enthused Americans. But what's interesting is that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just a twenty sixteen phenomenon. Every election year, thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>Americans on both sides of the out threatened to jump

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<v Speaker 3>ship to Canada should the quote wrong Canada win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the underlining thought is clearly that even if

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<v Speaker 2>life in Canada isn't the same as life in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>it's close enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hopping the border to Canada is apparently the plan

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<v Speaker 3>B for lots of Americans, or at least they pretend

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It's kind of a if things go south,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go north mentality. But the reality is it's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot harder to immigrate to Canada than most people think.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you have a job in Canada, even if

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<v Speaker 3>you're married to a Canadian, becoming a citizen can be

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<v Speaker 3>time consuming and requires a crazy amount of paperwork. But

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<v Speaker 3>even setting aside the difficulty of becoming a citizen, there's

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<v Speaker 3>still the question of whether living in Canada would really

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<v Speaker 3>feel comparable to life here in the States. Is Canada

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<v Speaker 3>all that American?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a great deal

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<v Speaker 3>of crossover, but it's hardly a.

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<v Speaker 1>One to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Canadian culture isn't too far from what we find stateside,

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<v Speaker 2>and the food, for the most part, isn't that exotic,

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<v Speaker 2>though they do have stuff like proutine flavored potato chips

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<v Speaker 2>and camel meat apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think that sounds very American.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we share the same continent, our economies and environmental

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<v Speaker 2>concerns are intertwined. But yet there would definitely be some

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<v Speaker 2>growing pains involved for American transplants. For example, According to

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian Business, buying stuff online is much more of a

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<v Speaker 2>challenge in Canada than it is in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that you go straight to shopping as the

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<v Speaker 3>litmus tests for whether a place feels truly American. But okay,

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<v Speaker 3>what makes e commerce worse in Canada is that the

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<v Speaker 3>spotty Wi.

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<v Speaker 2>Fi not exactly in fact, Canadians are more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>have access to the Internet than residents of any other

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<v Speaker 2>G twenty nation, and that includes the US. Canadian citizens

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<v Speaker 2>have long since embraced the digital age, but Canadian businesses

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<v Speaker 2>are a totally different story. Fewer than half of all

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian companies have websites, much less the ability to sell

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<v Speaker 2>their products online.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that would.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely be a rude awakening for many Americans, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think the weather in Canada would be an even ruder one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to blow your mind here, Mango, but

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<v Speaker 3>it gets pretty chilly in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. There are parts of the

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<v Speaker 2>US that experience some freezing cold winters, but that's true

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<v Speaker 2>of all of Canada. In fact, Canada vies with Russia

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<v Speaker 2>for the title of coldest country in the world. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>The average daily annual temperature in the Great White North

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<v Speaker 2>a bomby twenty two degrees fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 3>Iike's just thinking about that makes me want to reach

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<v Speaker 3>for the thermostat. So but I'm glad we're touching on climate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the major points of departure you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to run into with any stand in for the States.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our location in the sheer size of the continental

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<v Speaker 2>US allows for a lot of diversity in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>geography and climate. That's an aspect of life in America

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<v Speaker 2>that's tough for a lot of regions to match, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they do have same data delivery from Amazon. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest obstacle in trying to find another

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<v Speaker 2>country that feels American is the history itself.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by that, Well, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Country's history and the sense that it's shared by the

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<v Speaker 2>people who live there. That's a large part of what

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<v Speaker 2>makes a place feel like home. Countries like Canada and

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<v Speaker 2>Australia have similar histories of European colonization to that of

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<v Speaker 2>the US. That's maybe part of the reason they feel

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<v Speaker 2>more American. Does Still, all the specifics of those histories

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<v Speaker 2>and the cultures they spurred are very different, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of details that really seem to help us

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<v Speaker 2>identify ourselves as Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that sounds right to me. I mean, imagine in

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<v Speaker 3>America where the people didn't feel a swell of pride

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<v Speaker 3>when they spotted the Statue of Liberty, or feel a

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<v Speaker 3>twinge of childhood nostalgia when they heard notes from Yankee

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<v Speaker 3>Doodle could you ever really say a place like that

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<v Speaker 3>felt American? Well, plenty of people wouldn't be so lofty

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<v Speaker 3>and describing what makes America America. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>for nothing that we have the largest economy in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Americans like to spend money, and we have tons of

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<v Speaker 3>options for where to spend it. See, it all comes

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<v Speaker 3>back to shopping. It really isn'tes capable. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 3>at fast food, for better or worse. It's become synonymous

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<v Speaker 3>with American culture. So any stand in country worth its

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<v Speaker 3>salt would have its fair share of golden arches. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's no surprise that the US leads and the total

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<v Speaker 3>number of McDonald's restaurants at about fourteen thousand, but there

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<v Speaker 3>are a few countries that are gaining ground. China, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>has around two thousand McDonald's, in Japan nearly three thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, they're really catching off.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, US sales now only account for about thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one percent of McDonald's total revenues, according to Investipedia. The

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<v Speaker 3>rest comes from countries that are fast adapting to American taste.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just burgers. The KFC chain has become

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<v Speaker 3>ubiquitous in Asian markets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get that. I mean KFC has been steadily

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<v Speaker 2>expanding in both Japan and China for the past decade.

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<v Speaker 2>China has even overtaken the US for a number of

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<v Speaker 2>total KFCs, more than forty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, So as Kentucky Fried Chicken more Chinese than America.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, it's actually more Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, how's that for one thing?

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<v Speaker 2>KFC's mascot, Colonel Sanders, is hugely popular in Japan. He's

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<v Speaker 2>emphasized in all the marketing, the employee uniforms, even in

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<v Speaker 2>his trademark bulow tie. They even have a Colonel mascot

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<v Speaker 2>costume with a big Emoji style head for the customers

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<v Speaker 2>to take selfies with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little bit creepy. I mean, he was also

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<v Speaker 3>the founder, right, a real person. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 3>if Disneyland had employees wearing big Walt Disney mask prowling

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<v Speaker 3>the park instead of Mickey Mouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankfully, that's something even the international Disney parks have avoided doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does get me thinking, could Disney theme parks

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<v Speaker 2>be some of the most American places in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you might be onto something there. Last year, Branding

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<v Speaker 3>magazine pulled nearly five thousand people between sixteen and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 3>They asked him to evaluate the patriotism of two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and forty eight US brands.

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<v Speaker 1>Any idea who was at the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go on a limb here and say, uh, Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, ninety eight percent associated the Disney brand with

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<v Speaker 3>US patriotism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a study, exposure to American brands in entertainment has

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<v Speaker 2>gone a long way toward making other parts of the

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<v Speaker 2>world feel a little more American, for better or for worse.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that's even true of our own offshore territories,

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<v Speaker 2>which are their own unique mixes of island native and

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<v Speaker 2>modern American col Very true.

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<v Speaker 3>But before we get into the strange, not at all

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<v Speaker 3>straightforward world of US territories, what do you say we

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<v Speaker 3>check in with our DC residents for an all American quiz?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, who do we have on the line today? Mango?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Drake and Don who are both DC residents

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<v Speaker 2>and in a strange coincidence, both of them have traveled

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<v Speaker 2>to nearly all fifty states.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, So let's start with you. Will, You've

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<v Speaker 1>been to forty nine states, Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>So which one is missing on the list?

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<v Speaker 4>I have not been to North Dakota yet.

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<v Speaker 1>To North Dakota, it's going to say Hawaii or Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you have against North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you think about everything that's cool to visit

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<v Speaker 4>in the Dakota's whether it's Rushmore or Deadwood or Rapid City,

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<v Speaker 4>that's all South Dakota.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, all of our North Dakota listeners are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so angry after hearing this. This could get out definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, yeah, alright, Well that's still pretty impressive. And

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<v Speaker 3>don I think you've been to what is it forty.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight I've been to forty eight states?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's missing on your list?

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<v Speaker 5>So what's missing is Wyoming and Alaska. But so as

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<v Speaker 5>somebody that has visited North Dakota, you haven't lived until

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<v Speaker 5>you've had dinner in Bismark.

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<v Speaker 2>Some bulled words, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, Drake, you're also in the process of striking

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<v Speaker 3>off another list, and that is visiting every Major League

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<v Speaker 3>baseball park in America. Now, how many of you hit

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<v Speaker 3>at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>As of a few days ago twenty six wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, twenty six out of how many are there?

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, well done. All right, well let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got two DC residents here to play a game.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's the game called Mango?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little quiz called DC or not DC?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So we'll read a statement about Washington DC,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you think it's true, you'll say d C.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think it's false, you'll say not DC. Not

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<v Speaker 3>that confusing, all right, So you'll be working as a team.

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<v Speaker 3>We thought DC residents need to stick together and all

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<v Speaker 3>of their anger over not being a state, So we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna let you collaborate, you guys. Ready, I good, Ready,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, let's do it. Question number one, It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>until nineteen sixty one that DC residents got the right

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<v Speaker 3>to vote in presidential elections DC or not DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure the date, but that sounds right. What

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<v Speaker 4>do you think done?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why it would have been nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna go not DC. Actually, I think I think

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<v Speaker 5>we've been able to vote presidential longer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna deffer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's deferring, such a gentleman, but unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>It is d C. The twenty third Amendment gave them

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<v Speaker 2>the right. Yeah, and they first exercised that right in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixty four elections.

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<v Speaker 3>So don was actually thinking along the right lines of

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<v Speaker 3>like why would it be nineteen sixty one when it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't exercised until sixty four. So I think we should

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<v Speaker 3>give him half a point for like putting that reasoning together.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like DC's have to state that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, not even all right? Question number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Underneath d C, there's a semi secret metro line that

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<v Speaker 3>runs congressmen and staffers between the office buildings. That is true,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, absolutely, yeah, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called a Capital Subway system, and it makes over

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred runs a day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, okay, all right, so they have one and

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<v Speaker 3>a half points so far. Let's see what happens next.

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<v Speaker 3>Question number three. When Nixon accepted the gift of two

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<v Speaker 3>pandas to DC's national Zoo, he returned the favor by

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<v Speaker 3>sending them a pair of RCA speakers and a collection

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<v Speaker 3>of Danny k records.

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<v Speaker 4>D C or not DC, it's just dumb enough that

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<v Speaker 4>it might be true.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, you think that sounds like that sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like a tacky, tacky American thing to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Who is it, Danny K?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Is that not the jam you were listening to

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<v Speaker 1>before you call it?

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<v Speaker 5>I just turned off the eight tracks.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's actually not d C. Nixon actually sent them

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<v Speaker 2>a gift that was way tack here a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>Muskoks named Milton and Matilda, and according to the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times, they weren't exactly quality cattle. Milton in particular

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<v Speaker 2>was complaining of post nasal drip, a cough, and his

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<v Speaker 2>hair seemed to be falling out on arrival.

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<v Speaker 3>What a sweet gift. God, Okay, all right, I sense

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<v Speaker 3>the stormback. They've got three questions left, all right? Question

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<v Speaker 3>number four. While Washington, d C. Isn't a state, it

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<v Speaker 3>does have a listed state flower, the American Beauty Rose

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<v Speaker 3>DC or not DC.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what it sounds to me like, it's probably right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, d Here we go, two questions left.

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<v Speaker 3>The first show, Viz Pizza, opened in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty. Vice President George Bush joins Spain's ambassador

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<v Speaker 3>to cut the ribbon at the opening ceremony DC or

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<v Speaker 3>not DC?

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<v Speaker 4>Where does this stuff come from history books or not?

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Don should probably agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see correct, all right? To finish up strong for

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<v Speaker 3>the big prize, here we go Question number six. Spiked

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<v Speaker 3>dog collars were invented in Washington, d C. By famed

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<v Speaker 3>dog breeder Gareth Winchester to make his Bassett hounds look

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<v Speaker 3>more intimidating. DC or not DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going I'm going correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is Gareth Winchester?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know who Gareth Winter? Say that name up?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Part Time Genius and we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the most American places in the world. So Mango, we've

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<v Speaker 3>been focusing on places that somehow feel American despite being

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But before the break, you've touched on the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>US territories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the territories are like these incredible scattered American gens

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<v Speaker 2>that are sadly overlooked by most of US. Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 2>is the most famous by far of the five inhabited

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<v Speaker 2>US territories, the other four being the US Virgin Islands,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also in the Caribbean, plus American Samoa, Guam

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<v Speaker 2>and the Northern Mariana Islands in the Pacific. They're also

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<v Speaker 2>about a dozen uninhabited islands that also technically count as

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<v Speaker 2>American soil.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so there are five of them. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not something I could have told you before. And I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like we need a way to commit them to memory.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know how much I like namonic device is mango.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we just take a minute to come up with

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<v Speaker 3>a good way to remember all five.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea, Okay, So we go by population

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<v Speaker 2>size from largest to smallest. That gives US Puerto Rico, Guam,

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<v Speaker 2>US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and Northern Mariana Islands pg

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<v Speaker 2>U A N.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of hoping it would make a word

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<v Speaker 3>by myself. All right, well let's think about this then.

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<v Speaker 3>How about let's see pg u a peguan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a word, all right. Pancakes grow under.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice tree, and nice tree is one word, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, so don't call me out on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pancakes grow under a nice tree. That's how you remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good. Or maybe pickles get ugly after man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say knifing, but that's supposed the k

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<v Speaker 2>or gnawing, which starts to the G stupid silent letter.

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<v Speaker 2>How about pickles get ugly after negotiations? Negotiations, Yeah, negotiations

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<v Speaker 2>will wear anyone down. I was going to suggest neglect there, yeah, if,

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<v Speaker 2>But negotiation is just funny to picture and easier to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good point.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think we both nailed it, But we know

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<v Speaker 3>our listeners are smarter than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's make this a contest. Come up with a.

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<v Speaker 3>Better mnemonic for how to remember the five US territories,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll award our favorite three with part Time Genius

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to hear from them. Okay, back to

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<v Speaker 2>the territories.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we should note that we're following Doug Max's lead

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<v Speaker 3>on this by kind of broadly grouping them all together

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<v Speaker 3>as territories. But the logistics are a little more nuanced

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<v Speaker 3>than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. A territory can either be organized or unorganized, and

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<v Speaker 2>also incorporated or unincorporated. And then there are Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 2>and the Northern Mariana Islands, which are officially commonwealth rather

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<v Speaker 2>than territories. It's all maybe a little too nuanced for

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<v Speaker 2>us to get into here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>There are all these distinctions that are used to describe

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<v Speaker 3>the extent to which the Constitution and federal laws applies,

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<v Speaker 3>well as whether a place is fully considered.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the US. It's actually kind of a big mess.

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<v Speaker 2>You can really tell that the territories were acquired without

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<v Speaker 2>any solid long term plan for them. I mean, all

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<v Speaker 2>but nineteen of the current fifty states started out as

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<v Speaker 2>US territories, but that path to statehood has never seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like a serious option for places like Guam in the

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<v Speaker 2>Virgin Islands.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Which isn't to say that the US claimed than without

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<v Speaker 3>any rhyme or reason though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why do we start grabbing up offshore of territories anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>I know America was young, scrappy, and hungry to borrow

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<v Speaker 2>a phrase from Hamilton, but we were looking for ways

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<v Speaker 2>to assert ourselves as a full blown empire in the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes of the rest of the world. But that seems,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, sort of impractical.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we definitely did want that seat at the big

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<v Speaker 3>boy table, and expanding the country's boundaries certainly got us

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<v Speaker 3>closer to that goal. But there was actually a more

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<v Speaker 3>practical reason too, And you're gonna like this one, but

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<v Speaker 3>back in the early eighteen hundreds, our farming game wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>so strong yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the States.

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<v Speaker 3>We were producing tons and tons of tobacco and cotton,

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<v Speaker 3>but at the expense of the soil, which was fast

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<v Speaker 3>losing all of its nutrients.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess George Washington Carver was still quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few years off, so crop rotation wouldn't have be in

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<v Speaker 2>vogue at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we were exhausting the soil, and since industrialization was

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<v Speaker 3>still a ways off, it was becoming a very big

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<v Speaker 3>problem for our fledgling economy. So what's a young growing

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<v Speaker 3>nation to do but start mining bird poop from the

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<v Speaker 3>barren islands off its shores.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that's why we have this territory, well many of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, these remote islands had been flyover spots for seabirds

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<v Speaker 3>for thousands of years. All those years of daily deposits

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<v Speaker 3>allowed for some pretty hefty build ups of utria rich fertilizer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not kidding, And that's what American farmers needed. So

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<v Speaker 3>Congress passed the Guano Islands Act in eighteen fifty six,

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<v Speaker 3>and we started calling DIBs on all the unclaimed islands

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<v Speaker 3>we could find.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, that is practical.

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<v Speaker 1>And kind of gross.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it also doesn't explain why we've continued to

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<v Speaker 3>hold onto these territories.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly hard up for fertilizer anymore, and my friends in

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<v Speaker 3>the guano mining industry telling me the work has dropped

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<v Speaker 3>off significantly over the past two hundred years or so.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that nations aren't chomping at the bit to

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<v Speaker 3>give up land. There's only so much of it in

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<v Speaker 3>the world, after all, But to be more to it, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it has a lot to do with what the

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<v Speaker 2>US got in addition to copious mounds of bird poop.

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<v Speaker 2>When a nation claims territory, it doesn't just get the

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<v Speaker 2>land itself. It gains possession of surrounding waters for miles

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<v Speaker 2>and miles in all directions. That means cart blanc access

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<v Speaker 2>to fishing and undersea minerals and shipping lanes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not to mention the opportunity for tourism. That's big

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<v Speaker 3>business for the territories today, one of the reasons they

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<v Speaker 3>feel so American in some ways, even though their official

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<v Speaker 3>status is a little shaky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was one of the things that jumped out

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<v Speaker 2>to me while reading Doug Max's book. A few of

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the US territories are total tourist magnets, but it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>always the people you'd expect to be visiting. Like take

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the Virgin Islands, for example. Unlike the Guano Rich Islands,

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the US bought these from Denmark in the early nineteenth century. Today,

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Danes flocked to the US Virgin Islands to get a

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<v Speaker 2>taste of their country's colonial history. In fact, there's a

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.119
<v Speaker 2>weird dichotomy on the islands in that Danish tourists largely

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 2>visit for the historical attractions like museums and tours of

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<v Speaker 2>old forts, while American tourists visit mainly for the beach

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<v Speaker 2>and the duty free shopping.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have established that Americans love shopping, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little sad to hear Americans mostly think of the

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 3>territories as beachfront.

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<v Speaker 2>Mall right, And in some cases they're not so much

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<v Speaker 2>shopping destinations for Americans as they are for international tourists

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<v Speaker 2>who want to feel American.

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<v Speaker 1>You're thinking of Guam, I'm guessing exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside for the local population, Guam is almost entirely made

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<v Speaker 2>up both navy and air force personnel and an endless

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<v Speaker 2>stream of tourists from Russia, China, Japan, even Korea, And

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of survival, the people from Guam have

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<v Speaker 2>really had to cater to this foreign crowd. There's this

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<v Speaker 2>great part in Doug Max's book where he describes visiting

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<v Speaker 2>Guam and running across an outback steakhouse, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>this really surreal moment where he's outside the States looking

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<v Speaker 2>at this Australian themed US chain restaurant with a big

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<v Speaker 2>glowing sign that reads America's favorite steakhouse in Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>It was for the steakhouse which are in Japanese.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>That reminds me of how perhaps Blue Ribbon was rebranded

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<v Speaker 3>in China for luxury markets and sold for like eighty

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a bottle because not only was it American, but

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<v Speaker 3>it won a Blue Ribbon.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet ziem a gold can't get any international love

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<v Speaker 2>despite having that gold in the title.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure that's what the gold stood for. But

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<v Speaker 3>of all the territories, Guam really stands out for catering

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<v Speaker 3>to a particular breed of tourists, those who want to

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<v Speaker 3>experience all the cliche excess of US culture without actually

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<v Speaker 3>visiting the States. And I mean it sounds like those

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 3>visitors get exactly what they're after. Just listen to Doug's

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<v Speaker 3>description of one of Guam's shopping districts. If you're so inclined,

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<v Speaker 3>in the course of a single afternoon, you can rent

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<v Speaker 3>a canary yellow Chevy Mustang or a Harley Davidson, dress

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<v Speaker 3>up like a cowboy and fire machine gun at wild

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<v Speaker 3>West Frontier Village, eat a berger at the Root sixty

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<v Speaker 3>six Pub and Club, by a bulk sized bag of

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite beef jerkey from the dedicated section at the

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<v Speaker 3>souvenir shop and pose with the Statue of Liberty with

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<v Speaker 3>a baseball field in the background, before ending the day

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<v Speaker 3>with a Las Vegas style magic show replete with white

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<v Speaker 3>tigers and dancing showgirls with feathery head dresses.

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<v Speaker 1>It just makes me feel patriotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that really does sound like America, or maybe just Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>But the territories do have places that are purposefully set

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<v Speaker 2>up to feel like mainland America. But what about the

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>people who lived there? I know that, with some exceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>they are American citizens, but do they seem like Americans right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we know they got the shopping thing down pat

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe we should also take a look at the

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<v Speaker 3>aspects of history and culture that we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those will really be deciding factors for what

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<v Speaker 3>territories can be considered places that truly feel American.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, let's break for a quiz.

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<v Speaker 3>So, our guest today is the author of this terrific

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<v Speaker 3>book we're discussing the not Quite States of America. After

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<v Speaker 3>realizing just how little he knew about the United States territories,

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<v Speaker 3>he set off on a globe hopping quest covering more

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<v Speaker 3>than thirty thousand miles to see them all, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>here for us to ask him questions about every single

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<v Speaker 3>one of those miles.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Mack, Welcome to Part time Genius.

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<v Speaker 7>Hi, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Doug, tell us.

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<v Speaker 3>How this book idea came about and how long it

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<v Speaker 3>took to make it happen. I mean, thirty thousand miles

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<v Speaker 3>is no short track to see all of these places.

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<v Speaker 7>No, it's certainly not.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a degree, a bachelor's degree in American studies,

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<v Speaker 7>but in four years of study, we never even once

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<v Speaker 7>talked about the US territories. And then we talked about

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 7>history and politics and literature and all this stuff about

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 7>the states, so specifically right, And then just a few

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 7>years ago, I was with my wife on a Saturday

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<v Speaker 7>morning and she collects all the state quarters and she

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<v Speaker 7>was putting a new quarter in her portfolio and she

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<v Speaker 7>kind of said, late, look, you know there are these

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<v Speaker 7>the quarter for the territories, and went, right, we have territories,

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<v Speaker 7>which is kind of the response I get to every

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<v Speaker 7>from everyone when I say wrote book with territories. It's oh, right, territories,

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<v Speaker 7>that's the thing. And so that sort of sparked this idea, thought,

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 7>you know this, this is supposed to be my area

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<v Speaker 7>of espertise, right, but of American studies all this history,

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<v Speaker 7>and did a little googling, thought, you know this is

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<v Speaker 7>these are really interesting places. I should go see them myself.

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 7>And no one had really written this book before, which

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<v Speaker 7>is another thing that you were about as a writers.

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<v Speaker 7>Has anyone already written this? And it turns out the

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<v Speaker 7>answer is no?

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<v Speaker 2>And so was was your travel to any one of

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 2>these places more surprising than others?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>So all of the territories have a really interesting combination

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<v Speaker 7>of what we would think of as sort of like

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<v Speaker 7>familiar American culture and then and then their own region, right.

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<v Speaker 7>So like the US Virgin Islands. One of the very

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 7>first things that I saw as we're driving in from

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<v Speaker 7>the airport was there's a big baseball stadium with a

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<v Speaker 7>big poster saying there's going to be some major league

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<v Speaker 7>stars appearing in a couple of weeks. You know, you

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 7>kind of expect that as in part of the USA.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 7>But then a couple of blocks away was a big

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 7>cricket ground. And the US Origin Islands are part of

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<v Speaker 7>the West Indies cricket team, which is one of the

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 7>most successful cricket teams in the world, and so you

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 7>don't think of any part of the USA as being,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, a cricket hotbed, much less being both a

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 7>popular spot for baseball and for cricket. And so there

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 7>are a lot of things like that across the territories,

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<v Speaker 7>where you know, there is something familiar and then something

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<v Speaker 7>completely Differently.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you write a little bit about, you know, their

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<v Speaker 3>thinking and the various territories on the possibility of statehood,

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<v Speaker 3>but in general, were you surprised at the feelings from

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<v Speaker 3>place to place on the idea of achieving statehood?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well I was.

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<v Speaker 7>I was surprised by sort of the level of complexity

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 7>on that because there's no current dried answer, right, so,

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 7>and it varies from place to place. You know, Puerto

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 7>Rico certainly has has the biggest debate that a lot

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 7>of people who were very strongly in favor of becoming

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 7>independent nation they want nothing to do with the USA.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 7>Plenty of other people want to become a state, and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, certainly they have the population and then everything

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<v Speaker 7>that you know, they would fit right in. I think

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<v Speaker 7>they would be about twenty ninth or so population wise.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, it's it's it's really complicated, and it's all

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 7>it's always changing as well. So for example, Guam right

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 7>now has an independence moving movement that's starting to get

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 7>to pick up some seam. But again, even there you

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 7>still have some people who want to keep things the same.

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 7>You have some people who want state hits. So there's

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 7>there's not really an easy answer there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now, which of these territories would you say, if

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<v Speaker 3>you had to pick one to say is the most American?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say?

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<v Speaker 7>Possibly Guam They have the world's largest kmart is on Gwam.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 7>I took a tour the island with with a military

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 7>Veterans motorcycle club and they have amazing barbecue that's that's

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 7>very much their own, their own thing, with a particular

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 7>marinade that's that's kind of unique to to the Mariana Islands.

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 7>And Guam and gum Manum just really felt familiar in

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 7>American to me, but also like it had some of

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 7>these cultural differences that I don't get certainly where I

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 7>live in Minneapolis, but that too felt very American, right

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 7>that there are all these different people and traditions contributing

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 7>to this broader story of the USA.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, Menga, what game are we playing with

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Doug today?

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Because Doug wrote the Not Quite States of America, we're

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>saddling him with a game called the not Quite Brilliant Quiz.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So we've scoured newspapers and media headlines for

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the phrase not quite something, and we want you to

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 3>fill in the blank. But to help you out, we'll

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>give you a rhyming clue as well. This is one

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>of more and more complicated games. So no pressure, right, yeah,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>no pressure at all. But are you Are you ready

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<v Speaker 3>to play?

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<v Speaker 2>Doug?

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 4>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go. All right, so question number one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the clue first, The answer rhymes with

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<v Speaker 3>an abbreviation for corporation. The answer rhymes with an abbreviation

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<v Speaker 3>for corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>In an Atlanta Journal Constitution story headlined speeding man had

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<v Speaker 3>alien doll passenger, the driver clocked in at eighty four

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<v Speaker 3>miles per hour or not quite blank speed.

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<v Speaker 4>Warp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, morph rhymes yes one for one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Clue for number two.

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<v Speaker 3>This answer rhymes with the title of a Monty Python

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<v Speaker 3>Broadway musical.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the question is.

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<v Speaker 3>The New Yorker titled a movie about a Jackie O

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<v Speaker 3>wanna be not quite blank?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh came, that's rights right, camelot right, yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 2>rhymes with spam a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done? Two for two, all right, question number three,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two left. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>The clue is This answer rhymes with how you describe

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<v Speaker 3>a monkey named George In a city am car review,

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<v Speaker 3>the paper called a new automobile fast but not quite blank.

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<v Speaker 5>Curios.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, curious.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll thank my toddler daughter and her book collection.

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<v Speaker 4>That one.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Last one here, This answer rhymes with spam gurgler,

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<v Speaker 3>which isn't a.

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<v Speaker 1>Word that makes sense. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is a New Jersey radio station referred to

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<v Speaker 3>a man who tried to rob a Burger King as

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<v Speaker 3>not quite blank.

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<v Speaker 7>It's probably not Ronald McDonald. That would be the hamburgler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well done, all right, So how do Doug you mango?

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>So Doug win incredible four for four, which wins our

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>hard earned admiration, which is also known as our number

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<v Speaker 2>one best not quite prized.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, congratulations Doug, and thanks so much for being

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<v Speaker 3>on part time genius. I hope all of you will

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<v Speaker 3>check out not quite states dot com to find out

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 3>about Doug's book tour on August first, he'll be in

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 3>New York. August second, he'll be in Boston. But you

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 3>can see on the website for his other stops. Safe travels, Doug,

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and thanks a lot for writing a great book.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, thanks for having me appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were talking about all the things that make

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<v Speaker 3>the not quite states of America feel like the real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the scoop on the local Well, I think

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<v Speaker 3>one of the main similarities to people's stateside is that

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<v Speaker 3>people in the territories have this really strong sense of

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<v Speaker 3>sharing the load.

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<v Speaker 2>There are these really tightly knit communities of families and

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<v Speaker 2>friends that look out for one another despite having to

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<v Speaker 2>constantly compete for resources. In some cases, this is especially

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<v Speaker 2>true of American Samoa, which is one of the less developed,

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<v Speaker 2>not as touristy territories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, American Samoa is an interesting case and is the

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>only inhabited territory that's neither incorporated nor organized. It's actually

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>the least American territory in a legal sense. But on

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<v Speaker 3>the other hand, the locals have a culture that closely

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<v Speaker 3>mirrors part of the mainland lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about Well, for one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>American Samoans love football, and they're really good at it too.

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<v Speaker 3>American football, of course, so Christian missionaries introduced the locals

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<v Speaker 3>to rugby a long time ago. So when American television

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 3>brought the NFL to the region, many players made the

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<v Speaker 3>switch from a European pastime to a more American one.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, there were twenty eight NFL players of American

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<v Speaker 3>Samoan descent at the start of the twenty fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen season. They've really taken to it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. I've also heard their avid web surfers because

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<v Speaker 2>the internet speeds are crazy fast. They're like faster than

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<v Speaker 2>they are here on the mainland. Oh and another really

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<v Speaker 2>telling fact about American Samoa is its military enlistment rate.

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<v Speaker 1>It is pretty high, isn't it the highest?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, American Samoa has the greatest enlistment rate and

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<v Speaker 2>casualty rate of any US territory or state.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the craziest part is that the American Samoans are

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<v Speaker 2>only considered American nationals, not full citizens. So they are

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<v Speaker 2>fighting and all too often dying for a country that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't even recognize them as its citizens. Which is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is heartbreaking, especially when you consider how strong

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>the sense of patriotism is there, like apart from a

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>shared love of football and fast food. By the way,

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 3>there are two McDonald's on the island. The people that

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 3>really take pride in being American. But what's the difference

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<v Speaker 3>between being a national and a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's confusing. So I'm going to quote Columbia law professor

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Christina Duffy Ponza here. Congress originally refused to give the

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 2>inhabitants of the new territories citizenship, but the court decided

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 2>that they weren't quite foreigners either. Eventually, the State Department

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.280
<v Speaker 2>came up with the labeled nationals, and while simons chose

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>to stay nationals at some point to protect their cultural identity,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>it also meant they can't get civil service jobs in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, or vote here, or help their families immigrate,

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>even if they've served in the military. But on the

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 2>other hand, clearly there's a sense of shared history in

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the territories that makes them feel more connected, unlike somewhere

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>like Canada or Australia, which have broad similarities to US

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and a bit of over the territories are active parts

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of American history. They were the sites of some key

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>battles in many of our wars, including Sipan in the

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Northern Mariana Islands, which was the bloodiest twentieth century battleground

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the US, and today they still serve as

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>strategic outposts for the military, helping as monitor potential threats

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>from overseas well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great point. So mainland Americans have a tendency

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.240
<v Speaker 3>to overlook their connection to the territories, but the people

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 3>who live there could never be accused of ignoring American identity.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, with few exceptions, there isn't even a major

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 3>push for independence or autonomy within the territories.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Most seem perfectly content, proud even to maintain their connection

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to the US, even if it hasn't treated them completely

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<v Speaker 1>fairly in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Puerto Rico definitely stands the best chance of

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 2>achieving statehood and seems the most eager to do so,

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 2>but even that's uncertain and not likely to happen anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>There are few factors on its side, though, specifically the

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 2>population and the sheer size of its land mass. It's

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 2>much bigger than the other territories, and it's actually larger

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 2>than Delaware and Rhode Island as well. It's also home

0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:02.479
<v Speaker 2>to over three point five million people, which is ten

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 2>times the population of all the other territories put together.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the size alone helps lend an American feel

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 3>to Puerto Rico. Like we mentioned earlier, the mainland US

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 3>is big, which gives it a lot of diversity in

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 3>terms of climate and geography. Puerto Rico is the only

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 3>territory that's big enough to have entire sections that look

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 3>and feel completely differently from one another, complete with their

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 3>own local vibes and cultural quirk.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>That definitely helps Puerto Rico feel more American. And while

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to steer us back to shopping, I really

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 2>want to mention that Puerto Rico is home to just

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<v Speaker 2>about every American brand you can think of, including Macaroni, Grill, Costco,

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Sam's Club, cheesecake factory. They even have the first Macy's

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>department store outside the Connello US. Wow.

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 3>So another taste of the American experience for tourists, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing. Doug Max suggests that unlike Guam

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<v Speaker 2>or some of the other more crossly commercial parts of

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the territories. Puerto Rico feels extra American because those are

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the locals tastes, not the tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that is interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>It tells us that the reason Puerto Rico is home

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to the highest concentration of walmarts in the world is

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<v Speaker 2>not because it's trying to appeal to outsiders with American tastes.

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>It's because they're trying to peel to Americans, or in

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 2>other words, to themselves. I like that.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Still the most American places in the world, so those

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 3>are in America?

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Is that the cheating, Well, it's something we could all

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>probably stand to remember more often until we can easily

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>rattle off the territories and their capitals like we do

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>for states. I'm gonna have to give us a pass.

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.479
<v Speaker 2>But one case where cheating is never tolerated, the part

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 2>time genius backed off. What do you say, will all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it on? So.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoichi Yokoi, a Japanese sergeant during World War two, was

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<v Speaker 2>stationed in Guam when the war ended. The only problem

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he didn't know the war ended and hidden the Jungles

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>for nearly twenty eight years. He survived on a diet

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>of frogs, rats, and other small animals. So what happened

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 2>when he was finally found by a couple of unters

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy two. He was allowed to return to

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Japan and live out the rest of his life as

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>a celebrity.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are some of the most American places in

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<v Speaker 3>the States? Going by name alone, there are quite a

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<v Speaker 3>few cities worthy of the title, including three named Independents,

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>two named Freedom, and a whopping nine named Liberty, not

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 3>to mention the ones that crib directly from the country's names,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 3>such as American Fork, Utah, American Falls City, Idaho, and

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 3>American Canyon, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? In twenty thirteen, Samoa Era started a

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<v Speaker 2>very un American policy where they started charging people airfare

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<v Speaker 2>based on their weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, well.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Their weight and their luggages. Wait. And when people were

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 2>furious about it, they just countered, well, you'll pay less

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 2>for your kids.

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<v Speaker 3>So, according to Thrillist, in the mcguau neighborhood of Tokyo,

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 3>aspiring Japanese cowpokes and stetson and wranglers, Line danced to

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the sound of Brad Paisley at the Little Texas Honky

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 3>tonk Bar.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what a sucker I am for wranglers and

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Honky tonk Bar, I know you are, so I hate

0:38:58.800 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>to say it, but I've got to give it to

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<v Speaker 2>you for this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm thrilled to have won this week, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be the only one. Listeners, Remember to

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<v Speaker 3>send your submissions for our Territories Mnemonic contest. There are

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<v Speaker 3>big prizes on the line. And that's it for today's

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