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Speaker 7: Is it great to be back with you? Monday February

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Speaker 7: twenty five, twenty nineteen. This is episode one ninety two

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Speaker 7: of the Complorian Podcast. You go to a Brazilian jiu

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Speaker 7: jitsu competition in Brazil and a brawl breaks out.

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Speaker 5: Can flow.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was watching when it all went down live,

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Speaker 7: so that was pretty crazy. Did you see this dude

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Speaker 7: gets injured at the end of the jiu jitsu match,

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Speaker 7: presumably he lost, and then he goes firing off into

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Speaker 7: the crowd kabep style right after the fact.

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Speaker 4: Complete ridiculousness.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So Herbert Santos, who's one of the top competitors,

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Speaker 6: was taking on who quite possibly is probably in the

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Speaker 6: top three pound for pound Felipe Penna, who's a part

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Speaker 6: of Gracie Baja trains with Humbla Bahaal, and you know

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Speaker 6: he the match starts, they're going for a couple of

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Speaker 6: minutes and Felipe Penna did a sweep, so he was

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Speaker 6: in his guard. He ended up reversing Herber Santos gone

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Speaker 6: on top, and Herbert all of a sudden says that,

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Speaker 6: you know, he hurt his knee in that exchange, so

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Speaker 6: he's down. Everyone's kind of wondering what the hell is

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Speaker 6: going on, and the corner for Felipe Penna is kind

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Speaker 6: of hassling or giving Herbert a tough be like, oh really, dude,

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Speaker 6: come on, man, like keep going, don't make excuses. So

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Speaker 6: his knee is supposedly hurt, he gets pissed off, runs

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Speaker 6: at one of the corner men for Felipe Penna, and

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Speaker 6: then all hell breaks loose, So yeah, crazy stuff, dude.

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Speaker 5: I thought this was the gentle art, you know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah for all's breaking out at Brazilian jiu jitsu competitions. Well,

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Speaker 7: I did see Thiago Santos this weekend. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 7: a little bit about the prog show. Also some major

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Speaker 7: fight announcements between well from dating to the last time

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Speaker 7: we were on the air in terms of UFC two

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Speaker 7: thirty six coming together and the the Interim Championship Police

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Speaker 7: is gonna be out. So if you don't like interim titles,

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Speaker 7: maybe this isn't the show for you. At least today,

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Speaker 7: Longo's coming up in ten minutes. We missed him last week.

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Speaker 7: He was in the air, so a lot to get

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Speaker 7: to on al Jamaine Sterling's big win over Jimmy Rivera,

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Speaker 7: which was about a week or ten days or so ago,

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Speaker 7: and then.

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Speaker 5: UFC two thirty five coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 7: We got eight predictions from Ken Flow coming up in

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Speaker 7: the main event Challenge. But I want to start with

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Speaker 7: Thiago Santos, and again we talked a little bit last

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Speaker 7: Thiago Santos and Yan Behovitch. If they could produce a

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Speaker 7: Jones was fighting Anthony Smith seven days later. We also

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Speaker 7: of work is for Thiago Santos. On paper, he had

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Speaker 7: bulk of his UFC career is at middleweight, right but

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Speaker 7: the results at light heavyweight have been phenomenal, so much

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Speaker 7: so that if John Jones makes quick work of Anthony Smith,

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Speaker 7: As we said last week, Thiago Santos could be fighting

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Speaker 6: And I love this because remember that there was Anthony

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Speaker 4: At two hundred and five pounds against John Jones.

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Speaker 7: This is a win that should resonate, maybe more than

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Speaker 7: it will, given the fact that all the talk has

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the betting line would be for

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Speaker 7: Blahovitch relative to how inflated it is for this Anthony

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Speaker 7: At two hundred and five pounds, Daniel Cormier is still

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Speaker 5: Vacate the title.

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Speaker 7: So perhaps DC still factors in this mix with John

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Speaker 7: This is a guy that can headline in Brazil. This

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Speaker 5: A hugely widespread for Santos and Jones potentially.

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Speaker 4: No, I couldn't agree more with you.

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Speaker 6: I think that Santos would definitely be right around potentially

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Speaker 4: But I definitely think it's a lot less than Anthony Smith.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a way more dangerous fight for John

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Speaker 6: that I think he's faster than Anthony Smith. I think

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting, right, and again not to spin it

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Speaker 5: A couple other things quickly.

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Speaker 7: On the Prague event, Piotrillon I thought took another step

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Speaker 7: accomplished a lot. I think he's a victim of expectations

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Speaker 7: But this is certainly a nice way to go out

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Speaker 4: That's right. And Stefan Truvet is a very nice guy.

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Speaker 6: He was in the UFC at a very young age,

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Speaker 4: You got to put in the work, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think the big knock on Stephan is that perhaps

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Speaker 6: So it's not like he wasn't able or capable of

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Speaker 4: Get a bunch a hole in the fucking chucks.

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Speaker 7: Well, this calls for a celebration, folks, not just because

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Speaker 8: Well, well, first of all, you guys feel bad that

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Speaker 5: How do we fund that? Why did that happen?

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Speaker 8: Me? It? No, we got to do it so early

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, I know what that's about.

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Speaker 8: Okay exactly, but uh no, it feels good because Jimmy

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Speaker 8: Well, no, it was big, big, big stuff. You know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, look, I'm good. That was nice, And that's

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Speaker 8: Oh what always?

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Speaker 5: Against exactly exactly.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you thought he was gonna stick to move. Aljo's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, all right, just trying I'm happy for you,

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 7: felt like he should fight for the undisputed title. No

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Speaker 7: argument for me there, but I equin at times was

437
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Speaker 7: linked to a fight with Dustin Poorier. Any thoughts on

438
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Speaker 7: how the UFC is choosing to proceed and where the

439
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Speaker 7: chips may fall for your guy, man?

440
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Speaker 8: I got well, first off, you know, I'm happy for

441
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 8: both of those guys, you know for sure, But I

442
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 8: gotta tell you all should have that fight. I mean,

443
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Speaker 8: I don't know. I got pulling for Rau all the way,

444
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 8: and I'm with you. Ferguson, I mean, somehow he's just

445
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 8: getting royally screwed. It looks like because he is the guy.

446
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Speaker 8: I think. I said this from day one. I mean

447
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Speaker 8: like even when I was you know, after he beat

448
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Speaker 8: Kevin Lee. There is no question. First off, wasn't Ferguson

449
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 8: me into a champ? I believe he was. It was.

450
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Speaker 8: I can't even follow it anymore because he's why is

451
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 8: he not taking that fight? Do we know?

452
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: Well?

453
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Speaker 5: I think there are a couple factors.

454
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Speaker 7: His health might be one of them, but no, I

455
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 7: think to become a two time UFC Interim lightweight Champion

456
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 7: and to have a twelve fight winning streak at one

457
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Speaker 7: hundred and fifty five pounds having never been the undisputed

458
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 7: champion would just be bananas, right, Like, I'm not saying

459
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Speaker 7: I agree with his decision.

460
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Speaker 8: To hold out, but yeah, I agree with you, and no,

461
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Speaker 8: I agree with it until I figured it was something

462
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 8: like that. But if it's his holt, that's one thing.

463
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Speaker 8: But I think it's kind of insulting. I really do.

464
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Speaker 8: And uh, Tony Ferguson, in my eyes, deserves to fight

465
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Speaker 8: to be and that's the only fight to make. But

466
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Speaker 8: if that can't happen, Ferguson should be fighting for that

467
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Speaker 8: lightweight belt, the legitimate lightweight belt. And I don't know.

468
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Speaker 8: I mean, like again, I'm happy for Dustin. I think

469
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Speaker 8: he's done everything he had to do to get, you know,

470
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 8: to get the fight, but uh, they got to come

471
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Speaker 8: up with something better than this, because I don't even

472
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 8: think that's you know, I don't even know if that's

473
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Speaker 8: going to be a bigger, you know, as big of

474
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Speaker 8: a drawer as some of the other fights what Holloway

475
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 8: could have been. And I'm happy for Mike Holloway. He

476
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 8: definitely deserves whatever he wants to do because he's proven

477
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Speaker 8: himself time and time again. But man, I don't know.

478
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm disappointed if that's what the question was,

479
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Speaker 8: because either of those guys, I think Allen Halloway would

480
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 8: be a fantastic fight, and I think Gallan Poi it

481
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 8: would be a good fight.

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Speaker 6: You know what, when they made this announcement, to me,

483
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Speaker 6: it seemed like they were pointing towards potentially doing a

484
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Speaker 6: rematch with Habib and Connor. If if if they were

485
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Speaker 6: offering a fight with Ferguson, you know, for the interim

486
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Speaker 6: title against Max Holloway, because those are the rumors I

487
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Speaker 6: was hearing. And now Poier gets in there. Does this

488
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Speaker 6: mean that they're doing this because it's gonna be a

489
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Speaker 6: Habib Connor match? What do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but my advice that Allen is going

491
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Speaker 8: to be get ready to fight on that date because

492
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Speaker 8: one of those guys could get injured right in there.

493
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Speaker 8: And that's the way I think we're going to handle this.

494
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Speaker 5: Say there's the juice right there.

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Speaker 7: No, that makes a ton of sense, and obviously it's

496
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Speaker 7: not a big cut for al There are guys like

497
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Speaker 7: you know, Paul Felder and James Vick that they they

498
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 7: can't really get ready for it date like that. But

499
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 7: absolutely you got the right approach and Wan he's getting

500
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Speaker 7: one of those big names, you know, and hopefully it's

501
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Speaker 7: the guy in the fight that you guys want last

502
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 7: thing before we let you go, and Kenny will finish that.

503
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Speaker 5: On the other side.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you made fifty bucks on the al Jamaine Sterling win.

505
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 7: You picked you picked Kane Velaskiz to win. So unfortunately

506
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 7: nothing there.

507
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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm heartbroke. I'm heartbroken about the Kane Velasquez, right too. Man.

508
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it was tough and that was tough. That

509
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Speaker 8: was tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.

511
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Speaker 7: Maybe the toughest thing about it, right was with that

512
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Speaker 7: Arizona backdrop, that everybody was there for him, and twenty

513
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Speaker 7: some odd seconds later it was over.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, crazy. I mean, when you talk about anything

516
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Speaker 8: can happen in MMA, that that's a perfect example. I

517
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 8: did not see that remotely anywhere near that. But I

518
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Speaker 8: want to believe his knee gave out whatever.

519
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Speaker 5: What.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what happened. I mean, it's obviously a

521
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 8: good stoppage, but when you get hit with enough with

522
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Speaker 8: cargo short.

523
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like a short uppercut that threw him off balance. Yeah,

524
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Speaker 6: so I mean and gon who caused it? And gone,

525
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Speaker 6: who caused it?

526
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Speaker 4: That's the thing. But but it was it was to me,

527
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Speaker 4: it looked like it was Kane's knee that kind of

528
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: gave out there.

529
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Speaker 8: No, it just sucks because you know, the guys had

530
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Speaker 8: his injury problems.

531
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Speaker 4: He did so much to get back there right.

532
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Speaker 8: Exactly, and it looked like it came back to where

533
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 8: it's ugly head in a short you know, real short

534
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Speaker 8: span of time in the yancey gun and I swung

535
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 8: before the fight. He just looked like he was in

536
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 8: a good spot him and how the air, we're having

537
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 8: a great time. And yeah, it just sucks me because

538
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 8: I deal with injuries all day long, and uh, I

539
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 8: hate to see it go down like that. I really

540
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 8: do that. That actually bothered me a little good, you know. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 8: hopefully it's okay, and uh it'll make the decision for

542
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 8: his future.

543
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Speaker 7: Yeah, we haven't heard much in terms of any updates

544
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 7: on that knee. But if you get bored today, ray

545
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 7: listen back to episode one ninety one of the end

546
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 7: comploring podcast because Kenny and I disagreed on sort of

547
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 7: the end of that fight and went back and forth

548
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 7: a little bit last week, but we got to press forward.

549
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Speaker 5: We're not having you pick.

550
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Speaker 7: We're not having you pick John Jones and Anthony Smith

551
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 7: because the bet the betting line is so pronounced. But

552
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Speaker 7: Woodley and Usman's a little bit closer, Tyron. Woodley's about

553
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 7: a two to one favorite minus one eighty Kamara Usman

554
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 7: plus one fifty. So Woodley or Usman for you, And

555
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 7: if you do pick Tomorrow and he wins, you get

556
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 7: twice the money because he's the underdog. What do you

557
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 7: think about the Weltway title fight this weekend?

558
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 8: Man? I like both guys. I I do want to

559
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 8: see that fight, and I think Woodley just finds a

560
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 8: way to win. He's in. He'sa fights very smart enough

561
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 8: to take Woodley on that. Although I think it's gonna

562
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 8: be a good fight, I don't think it's gonna end

563
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Speaker 8: that quick.

564
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

565
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Speaker 7: Right, If they could if they could be extended a

566
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 7: little bit, right, if Kamorrow could extend iron, I think

567
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 7: it could get really interesting. Uh, And you got to

568
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 7: think that's a big part of what Kamara is going

569
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Speaker 7: to be trying to do. All right, man, Well, unless

570
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 7: you got anything else, man, we'll let you fly. Did

571
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 7: you know, did you get a win Friday night at

572
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 7: that show or what?

573
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 8: Oh you gotta win? Dennis Bazooka shout out to him.

574
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 8: He's an up and coming guy at one point. But

575
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 8: I think you guys will be seeing him in the future.

576
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 8: Very very good kid. And yeah, it was a great

577
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 8: fight against another tough guy, and I expect to see

578
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 8: him all maybe the contenders surely, well.

579
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Speaker 7: We hope, we hope to see it, buddy. All right,

580
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 7: thanks for the time. We'll talk to you in less

581
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 7: than a week.

582
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Speaker 8: All right, take it easy, guys, good to be back.

583
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: Oh yes, us all on this side of the table.

584
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Speaker 7: The Ray Longo minute every week here on the Anak

585
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 7: and Florian podcast. So I want to get into this

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 7: interim title situation and each fight individually on it merits okay.

587
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 7: So the UFC was trying to make the Tony Ferguson

588
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 7: Max Holloway fight Kenny, but not necessarily as a way

589
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 7: to block Tony from that Kabeb fight, like certainly Beiban

590
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 7: Nemongo Matta of Connor McGregor rematch has a lot of legs,

591
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 7: financial legs and otherwise. Right, But I do believe that

592
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 7: Dana White, from a competition standpoint, very much wants to

593
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Speaker 7: make the fight between Kabiban Momongo, mattav and Tony Ferguson

594
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 7: again and has said as much publicly. Right, I want

595
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 7: your thoughts, at least in terms of Tony from his standpoint,

596
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 7: turning down this opportunity to fight Max Holloway for the

597
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 7: interim UFC lightweight title, because I think the fight would

598
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 7: have had some value for Tony because he was taking

599
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 7: on the featherweight champion, who was moving up, who's won

600
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 7: twelve or thirteen fights in a row, some fresh blood.

601
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 7: You do get a chance to take one of those

602
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 7: shiny new belt tome Right, It's not nothing. I mean

603
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 7: like Dustin Pourrier is certainly looking at this as a

604
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 7: championship opportunity, even though it's not the undisputed title. Why

605
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 7: do you think that Tony, I mean, he's got to

606
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 7: know something or be expectant that he's going to get

607
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 7: that undisputed championship opportunity, because come April thirteenth, there's.

608
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Speaker 5: Gonna be an interim champion in this division.

609
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: I would say this.

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Speaker 6: If I'm in Tony's shoes, I would say, so, you

611
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 6: want me to fight for a belt that I already have.

612
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 6: I have eleven twelve fights, twelve wins in a row.

613
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 6: I have done everything you guys have asked me. You

614
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 6: guys have promised this title shot for the last four fights.

615
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 6: I thought I was gonna get it for the last

616
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Speaker 6: four fights. I've been through injuries, I've been through hell.

617
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 6: I already have the interim belt. You guys want me

618
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Speaker 6: to fight for this thing again so I can prove

619
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Speaker 6: myself to fight Habib Namaga Metov.

620
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Speaker 4: That's what you want me to do? Really? You know

621
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

622
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Speaker 5: That's what I would say. If I'm Tony, I'm.

623
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Speaker 7: Like what I agree Like, I've been down on my

624
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 7: knees begging the MMA gods to have Tony Ferguson fight

625
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Speaker 7: for the undisputed belt.

626
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: His next time out.

627
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 7: This was the first guy to get a double digit

628
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 7: winning streak at one hundred and fifty five pounds in

629
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Speaker 7: the UFC. Knock a bet, Normago Matto, right, and you're right.

630
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 7: Not only he won that interim belt, he was stripped

631
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 7: at that interim belt. Then he returned against Anthony Showtime

632
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 7: Pettis and finished him. So I can understand for Tony

633
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 7: the hesitation in accepting this fight.

634
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Speaker 6: And I would go even further and go and you

635
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 6: want me to fight one hundred and forty five powder? Yeah,

636
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: you know this guy hasn't this guy doesn't have any

637
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 6: fights at lightweight, and you want listen, I love that fight.

638
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 6: I absolutely love that fight. So I'm I'm conflicted. I'm

639
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 6: also conflicted on this Poorie Holloway fight in no way,

640
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 6: you know, like this is a tough such a good fight.

641
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: I would love Halloway and Ferguson throw down. I think

642
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: it'd be a classic. But I think for Ferguson's perspective,

643
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 6: he's just probably his mind is boggled as saying, well, what.

644
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: The hell do I have to do here?

645
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: This is this is now bordering on disrespectful.

646
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 6: You know the fact that I've done everything, I'm on

647
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: the you know, an amazing win streak here, and you're

648
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 6: gonna put me up against a guy who's never fought

649
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 6: at one hundred fifty five pounds So I could earn

650
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 6: the right to get a fight that I already earned

651
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 6: right I think there.

652
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Speaker 7: Was more to lose than gain for Tony here, right,

653
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 7: and you could go through a tough fight, a tough

654
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 7: weight cut, and then be sidelined and then not be

655
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 7: in a position to Fightbib Normongo Mattaw. I know you

656
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 7: can get injured in training as well, but there are

657
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 7: a lot of layers to this.

658
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 8: Now.

659
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 7: As far as Dustin Poier is concerned, it looked like

660
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: for a while he was gonna be the odd man out.

661
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 7: He's tweeting at the UFC, you might as well just

662
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 7: release me, right. And now, of course Ali at Quinta

663
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 7: isn't gonna be happy with this resolution, so someone's always

664
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 7: gonna be upset. You gotta be tweeting that Tony has

665
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 7: had his chances and been injured. But for Dustin Poorier, right,

666
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 7: he's fighting for a piece of a UFC championship, and

667
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 7: I feel good about that, right.

668
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 5: I think he's worthy.

669
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 7: I think because Max Holloway fought Dustin Pourier in his

670
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: UFC debut when he was twenty years old, there's some

671
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 7: history between these two and that gives the fight some legs.

672
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 7: I don't know that it will draw as well as

673
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 7: a Holloway Ferguson headline fight would In fact, I feel

674
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 7: like I can say with conviction that it won't draw

675
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 7: as well. You know, my twin brother would be in

676
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 7: Atlanta if Tony Ferguson was fighting anywhere on this guard,

677
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 7: and he's not coming to UFC two thirty six, So

678
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 7: there is that. But I think Pourier on the merits

679
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 7: of what he's done. He's worked very hard, and I'm

680
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 7: happy anytime any fighter who has never had that chance

681
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 7: before gets a chance to fight for some piece of

682
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 7: a UFC type.

683
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 6: I agree with everything you just said. I think for

684
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: Pourier it's an amazing opportunity. This guy has worked his

685
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 6: ass off and fought his ass off to put himself.

686
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: In this position. You know, I think in a lot

687
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: of ways he feels like Ferguson does.

688
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 6: And even Pourier hasn't accomplished what Ferguson has done at

689
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five pounds. So for Pourier, it

690
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 6: would be awesome to see him with any kind of

691
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 6: belt around his waist based on what he's accomplished in

692
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 6: that division and how hard he's worked to put himself,

693
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 6: you know, in this position to fight a guy in

694
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: Max Holloway, who he's already beaten.

695
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: Obviously, that was a very very long time ago.

696
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 6: And for Holloway, you know, if there's one guy who

697
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 6: deserves to get a title shot right off the bat,

698
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 6: it is him, you look, I mean at this point,

699
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 6: I mean, he's cleared out the division at one hundred

700
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: and forty five pounds in a lot of ways. I mean,

701
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 6: he's beaten all the top guys. I don't know if

702
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: he would go back to one hundred and forty five pounds.

703
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: I'm curious to see what his plans are. We have

704
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 6: talked about it that we would probably like to see

705
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 6: him fight at one hundred and fifty five pounds. He

706
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 6: is a gigantic one hundred and forty five pounder. I

707
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 6: think he will be best suited for the lightweight division

708
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 6: moving forward. I think he's pretty sick of making one

709
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 6: hundred and forty five pounds literally, So you know, it's

710
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 6: nice to see him fight in other awesome fighter and Pourier,

711
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 6: and I think that's gonna be another classic fight as well.

712
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 6: So I'm not a huge fan of the UFC just

713
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: putting on interim fights, interim title fights repeatedly. I think

714
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 6: the fancy threw it, But on its face, that is

715
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 6: an unbelievable fight.

716
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think you make a lot of

717
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 7: good points. I don't mind the interim titles as much,

718
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 7: but again, I work for the promotion, so I don't

719
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: think I come at it with the most objective set

720
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 7: of eyes. I guess my issue with this one is that,

721
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 7: so if Max Holloway wins, is he ubiquitously regarded as

722
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 7: a two division champion even though one of the belts

723
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 7: is an interim belt? And then regardless of who it is,

724
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: Holloway or Poorier, do they leap Tony Ferguson and go

725
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 7: fight Kabib or do you have a situation not unlike

726
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 7: Colby Covington where he's sitting home with an interim championship

727
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 7: and Kamara Usman's the guy who's fighting for the title. Like,

728
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 7: I'm glad these problems don't cross my desk. I'm happy

729
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 7: to have a chance to talk about. But it's crazy

730
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 7: to think that Halloway could win this fight and not

731
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 7: get could be next and not be considered a two

732
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 7: division champion.

733
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, You're.

734
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: Giving me a damn headache thinking about all those possibilities. No,

735
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: you're but you're right. I mean it gets more confusing.

736
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: And that's the problem with these kind of fights when

737
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 6: you make it for an interim title, is that it

738
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 6: confuses the fans that much more. And I think that,

739
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 6: you know, I know the UFC in the past ha said,

740
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 6: you know, listen, we don't want as many weight classes.

741
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 6: We don't want to confuse fans. We want to keep

742
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 6: it as simple as possible. Well, this isn't in line

743
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 6: with that kind of thinking. This is only making things

744
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 6: more convoluted and more difficult for fans to follow this sport.

745
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 6: So in that regard, I disagree with the decision. But

746
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 6: my goodness, what a fight. So again I'm conflicted on this,

747
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens. Man, It's still a great fight.

748
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 6: And for Holloway, it'd be cool to see him with

749
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 6: two belts in two different divisions as well.

750
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, and when we.

751
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 7: Talk about Kelvin Gaslam and Israel, a lot of sonya,

752
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 7: you know, eventually these divisions have to move on, right.

753
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 7: The lightweight title was last contested in October, and because

754
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 7: of Kabib's suspension, I can understand why the promotion wants

755
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: to try to move the division forward. But to your point,

756
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 7: you're not moving it forward if the interim champion isn't

757
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 7: guaranteed a title fight, and of course largely Tony Ferguson's

758
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: the reason why, because on paper he has a sick

759
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 7: resume and he absolutely has to be next for the

760
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: undisputed title. Kelvin gaslaman Israel a lot of Sonya. Okay,

761
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 7: So we talked after the I've laughed a little bit

762
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: because it's just crazy to think about the possibilities and

763
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 7: maybe I shouldn't get into all the if when scenarios.

764
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 7: But when Robert Whitaker fell ill and Kelvin gasolom shot

765
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 7: at the Undisputed Midway Championship went away, I said on

766
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 7: these airwaves, you never know if it's going to come

767
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 7: around again. And I give Kelvin Gaslim a lot of

768
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 7: credit for stepping up and fighting Israel out of Sonya again.

769
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 7: He does have a chance to leave with one of

770
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 7: those shiny new UFC belts, But if he doesn't beat

771
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 7: Israel out of Sonya, then thereby goes the Undisputed Midleweight

772
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 7: Championship opportunity, and therein lies the risk.

773
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: Right you fight for the interim middleweight title.

774
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 7: Obviously, if you beat out of Sonya, it makes the

775
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 7: Whitaker fight even bigger than it was before and makes

776
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 7: beating Robert Whitaker that much sweeter in theory because you

777
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 7: both have a belt over your shoulder.

778
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 5: But in this fight there lies a lot of risks

779
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 5: for Calvin Gasolin.

780
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 7: Right, he's about a plus one eighty underdog against Israel

781
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 7: a lot of Sonya, and after earning a shot at

782
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 7: the undisputed middleweight title, I kind of feel for the

783
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 7: guy that it's back to the INNI marbles for Calvin

784
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 7: Gaslam here April thirteen, I.

785
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 6: Would say this on the grand scheme, yes, there is risk.

786
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 6: He had that ability to fight Robert Whitaker that is

787
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 6: now gone. However, I disagree with you in the fact

788
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: that it's almost a better opportunity because he matches up

789
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 6: better style wise against an Israel out of Sonya than

790
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: he does perhaps against a Robert Whittaker. When you look

791
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: at Robert Whittaker and his performances again, uh the Olympian

792
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 6: freestyle wrestler Yol Romero and his ability to stop those

793
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 6: takedowns and be effective against an excellent striker as well,

794
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 6: in yol Romero. I thought that Whitaker matched up pretty

795
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: well against Gastolon. That would be that that it would

796
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 6: be a very difficult fight for Gastolum with israel Atisanya.

797
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 6: He doesn't have those same types of wrestling credentials and

798
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 6: that you know, maybe we haven't seen a dude who

799
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 6: can really pressure him and put him on his back

800
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 6: like a Kelvin Gastulum. So because of that, you know,

801
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 6: I think he matches up better against israel Asnya. However,

802
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 6: for Gastulum, he has never faced a striker like an

803
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 6: israel A Sonya.

804
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: Nobody has.

805
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 6: That's the kind of element that he brings in that

806
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 6: world class striking or when you're coming with a world

807
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 6: class jiu jitsu background, I mean, it's hard to face

808
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: the cream of the cream like that, and israel A

809
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: Sonya will be a danger for Gastolum on the feet

810
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 6: anytime that they're trading, anytime that they're on the feet.

811
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 6: I agree with you there, but man, that that is

812
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 6: going to be a very interesting fight, and what an

813
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 6: opportunity for out of Sonya, who has stayed very busy

814
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 6: over the last couple of years, and you can't say

815
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: that he doesn't deserve this spot either.

816
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: For Robert Whitaker, he has some recovery to do.

817
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 6: It sounds awful and it sounds very painful what he

818
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: had to deal with, but he has he has a

819
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 6: recovery process. You don't want to go in there if

820
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: you're not one hundred percent for a tough mixed martial

821
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: arts fight.

822
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: So I wish him the best.

823
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 6: I feel sorry for him in this equation, but man,

824
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 6: what an opportunity for out of Sonya.

825
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: And you can argue that he has less to lose

826
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: here in this fight right now, I would agree with that.

827
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 7: In Vegas agrees with you that the Auta Sonya matchup

828
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 7: is more favorable, at least from a betting perspective, than

829
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: the fight against Robert Whitaker, and.

830
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: I would agree with you too.

831
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 7: I think Gasolom has more paths to victory against somebody

832
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 7: like Israel a lot of Sonya.

833
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 8: Now.

834
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 7: Out of Sonya also had some pause in accepting this fight,

835
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 7: and I think initially balked at it because he feels

836
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 7: like he's ready to fight for the undisputed title.

837
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 5: And then Paolo Costa's name was injected into the mix.

838
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 7: Looks like he's gonna fight Joel Romero later that month

839
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 7: down here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. But once I think

840
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 7: the opportunity started to go away from Atasania, then he

841
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 7: was like, all right, you know, I better take this fight.

842
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 7: But I think big picture for guys like Dustin Poorier,

843
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 7: israelat of Sonia, and Kelvin Gaslom, who have no UFC

844
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 7: championship gold at home, interim or otherwise, they are fighting

845
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 7: for the gold right on April thirteenth, And especially for

846
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 7: a lifer like Dustin Poorier, I don't think he cares

847
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 7: much that it's an under re belt. He feels like

848
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 7: he's gonna walk out there a UFC lightweight champion. So

849
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 7: it's April thirteenth as UFC two thirty six, and I'm

850
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 7: glad I have a ticket. All right, We're gonna get

851
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 7: to UFC two thirty five. The picks at about sixty seconds.

852
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 7: As many of you know, John Jones getting back in

853
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 7: the octagon this Saturday, March second to defend his light

854
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 7: heavyweight title against Anthony lyonheart Smith. And whether you like

855
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 7: John Jones or don't, there's no doubt he has made

856
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 7: a lot of money over the years for betters twenty

857
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 7: three to one, the only loss coming by disqualification. And

858
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: there's only one place to make all your UFC two

859
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 7: to thirty five bets, including a money line play on

860
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 7: John Jones, and that's with my Bookie. MMA lines have

861
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 7: become a big area of focus for My Bookie. They

862
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 7: even let you bet on MMA props, which a lot

863
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 7: of other sportsbooks do, not how many rounds a given

864
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 7: fight will last, whether or not it will end in

865
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 7: a knockout a submission. It's also a great place to

866
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 7: wager on March Madness, the NBA and the Master's coming

867
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Speaker 7: up in April. And perhaps most importantly, my Bookie makes

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow has no fewer than eight UFC two to

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Speaker 7: thirty five picks coming your way right now.

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Speaker 5: Actually, let's get to the Main Event challenge.

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Speaker 7: Fourteen thirteen going into Prague, Ken Flow gets the win

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00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 7: over West from West Virginia five to four. You both

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00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 7: had Thiago Santos by knockout the deciding pick mikhal olekseijuk

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00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 7: Wes had John Valente. So we're tied at eighteen going

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00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 7: into UFC two thirty five and with us to make

895
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 7: eight picks today. One of our podcast listeners, I think

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Speaker 7: close to day one from upstate New York, Jeremy Anger

897
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 7: is with us.

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Speaker 5: Jeremy, how are you man?

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00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 9: I'm doing great, don happy to be here.

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00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 5: Well, we're happy to have you. So upstate New York.

901
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: Whereabouts are you?

902
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 9: I'm right outside of Albany. Roder Dam's connected area.

903
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 5: Okay, so does that make you like a Mets Islanders

904
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 5: guy or who do you root for?

905
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 9: My family's always been New York Giants and New York

906
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 9: team fans, and I kind of went the opposite way

907
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 9: and rooted to the Red Sox and oh my god,

908
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Speaker 9: Boston sports guy.

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00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 7: Oh my god, this guy. I mean, what are you

910
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 7: doing next week? You want to be our main event

911
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: challenge guest picker. Every week we got a local to

912
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 7: New York who roots for the Red Sox.

913
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do it every week.

914
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Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting because my daughter and I live down

915
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 7: here in South Florida. My eldest daughter, Riley, who is seven,

916
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 7: she used to sort of haze me and pretend she

917
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 7: was a Miami Dolphins fan and be like, Dad, you're

918
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 7: from Boston.

919
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: I'm from Florida.

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00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 7: But now she's come around, and certainly I think all

921
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 7: the teams winning has maybe helped. But I was wearing

922
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Speaker 7: a Miami Hurricanes T shirt putting her to bed last

923
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 7: night and she's like, take that shirt off of my room.

924
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 7: I was like, honey, it's not a Dolphins T shirt.

925
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 7: And he's like, oh, just making sure. So I got

926
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Speaker 7: my daughter on my side. It scares me to think

927
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Speaker 7: that my son could one day root for the New

928
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Speaker 7: York Yankees. I don't know what I would do about that,

929
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Speaker 7: but Jeremy, we're happy to have you. Not gonna waste

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Speaker 7: any more time. First fight for US two thirty five prelim.

931
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Speaker 7: You can see this one live on ESPN at welterweight

932
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Speaker 7: Mickey Gall minus three point fifty five Diego Sanchez coming

933
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 7: back at plus two eighty five.

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Speaker 5: Jeremy, what do you think Mickey Gall or Diego Sanchez.

935
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Speaker 8: For you.

936
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Speaker 9: Went a little back and forth than this one, But

937
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Speaker 9: I think Mickey Gall has age on his side. He's

938
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 9: got dangerous subs. But at the same time, I think

939
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 9: Diego Sanchez has the experience. Matt Brown and I Kin

940
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 9: both knocked him out, but I don't think Al's striking

941
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 9: has gotten as good as it needs to be. And

942
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Speaker 9: I think Diego is gonna wrestle him and take him

943
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 9: to the ground, neutralize the submissions and kind of did

944
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 9: do similar to what he did to Martine Held and

945
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Speaker 9: Jim Miller and grand out of descension.

946
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't hate the pick. I think

947
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 7: plus two eighty five five represents tremendous value. You're obviously

948
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Speaker 7: getting extra points in our scoring system. So Mickey gall

949
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 7: Kenny submitted George Sullivan the Kurk Pellegrino Train. George Sullivan

950
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 7: back in August. That followed his first pro loss, which

951
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 7: had come against Randy Brown nine months prior to UFC

952
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 7: two seventeen, So most of our listeners know the story

953
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 7: on Diego Sanchez made his UFC debut against Kenny Flori

954
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 7: in April ninth, two thousand and five. Diego's coming up

955
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: on fifteen years on this roster flow. It'll be his

956
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 7: twenty ninth UFC start, and he won the last one

957
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 7: against Craig White UFC two twenty eight last September. Your

958
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 7: thoughts on Diego Sanchez this weekend?

959
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 8: Kid?

960
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Speaker 6: How did that debut go for him against Florian? I wonder,

961
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 6: I wonder what happened there? And Floe was hurt that's right,

962
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 6: that's right. I was hurt from his elbow, Yes, smashed

963
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 6: my nose with Yeah. Listen, you know, I don't love

964
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 6: this fight, and I think there's a lot of money

965
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Speaker 6: to be made here potentially with Diego Sanchez.

966
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Speaker 5: Yes, he's older, Yes, he's fought a lot in he's been.

967
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Speaker 6: Through a lot of wars. I like the way he

968
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 6: matches up against Mickey Gall. I think he's a better

969
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: grappler than Gaul. I think he's a better wrestler than

970
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 6: Mickey Gall. I think that pressure style will eventually overwhelm

971
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 6: Mickey Gall. I don't think Mickey gall is the kind

972
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 6: of slick and dangerous striker yet that could propose a

973
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Speaker 6: problem for Sanchez. So I'm gonna go with Diego Sanchez,

974
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Speaker 6: and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a TKL

975
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Speaker 6: win here.

976
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Speaker 7: Jeremy, you gotta feel pretty good to be aligned with

977
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 7: the flow on that fight, especially given the odds. And

978
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of our listeners are probably

979
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 7: going right to my bookie dot Ag to hit that

980
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Speaker 7: Diego Sanchez plus two eighty five.

981
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Speaker 5: We'll see.

982
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 7: Look forward to talking to both athletes later in the

983
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 7: week when I get to Vegas.

984
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 5: All right.

985
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 7: Also part of the ESPN Preland package, Jeremy light heavyweight

986
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 7: fight Johnny Walker Blue the minus one thirty favorite, taking

987
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 7: on Misha Sirkunov Cirkunov the slight underdog at plus one ten,

988
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 7: Walker stepping in to replace ovin Saint Prux on about

989
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 7: two weeks. Notice here, Jeremy, what do you think Johnny

990
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 7: Walker or Misha Sirkunov.

991
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 9: That's probably the simplest pick for me. I after watching

992
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 9: Johnny Walker's last few fights, I'm completely buying into the

993
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 9: Johnny Walker hype. I think he's the most exciting lightweight

994
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 9: or light heavyweight prospect come around in a while. I

995
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 9: truly think, you know, if he gets past this test

996
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 9: and works his way up, he might be the most

997
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 9: dangerous threat to John Jones and his title. And I

998
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 9: think he's gonna add another scalp to the collection on

999
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 9: this one. I think he's gonna take Misha Zerkanov out.

1000
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Speaker 5: Add another scalp to the collection. I like it.

1001
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 7: I'm excited to see him fight live because I think

1002
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 7: there's there's a difference for me, at least once I

1003
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 7: see a guy compete in person in terms of how

1004
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 7: far I think they can go. But in the wake

1005
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 7: of what Thiago Santos did, Johnny Walker certainly a name

1006
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 7: to keep an eye on. Ken Flow Twenty six years old,

1007
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 7: He's won eight in a row, sixteen and three as

1008
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 7: a pro, but of course perfect thus far in the octagon.

1009
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 7: Two first round knockouts, both sub two minutes, both earning

1010
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 7: a performance bonus. Serakhanov on the other side, a lot

1011
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: of quick fights, Kenny. All seven of Serkranov's UFC fights

1012
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 7: have ended before the final horn submitted Pac Cummins his

1013
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 7: last time out that snapped to two fight skid Sirkanov

1014
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 7: the slight dog or Johnny Walker the slight fave for you.

1015
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 6: Uh, this is a tricky one. I think on the feet,

1016
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: Sirkaranov could be in big trouble. He's got to be

1017
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 6: careful with his with those knees, especially when he goes

1018
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 6: in there for the clinch. I don't think Johnny Walker

1019
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 6: is gonna be good enough to fend off the submission game, however,

1020
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 6: and I think if Sirkanov is able to hit a takedown,

1021
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 6: I think Sirkanov will get the submission win.

1022
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: Here.

1023
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 6: Walker dangerous on the feet, but I think he's gonna

1024
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 6: that train's gonna be derailed a little bit, and Sirkhanov

1025
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 6: is going to get the one.

1026
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 7: Very competitive, stylistic type fight that that is yes on paper,

1027
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 7: at least according to the odds makers. All Right, Domina

1028
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 7: Cruz believes his teammate Jeremy Stevens is going to shock

1029
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 7: the world this Saturday night ken Flow little He then

1030
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 7: the plus one eighty underdog. He takes on Zabeat Mago

1031
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 7: Med Sharipov. This is the featured prelaman ESPN Zabet minus

1032
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 7: two twenty Ken Flow. We're gonna go to you first

1033
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 7: on this Jeremy Stevens Zabeat Mago Med Charipov.

1034
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 5: Who do you like?

1035
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 8: You know?

1036
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 6: I think Zabeat has a lot of interesting weapons. He

1037
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 6: obviously has that reach and that height advantage, which could

1038
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 6: pose some problems for a Jeremy Stevens. However, I don't

1039
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: like the fact that Zabeat stays in front of you.

1040
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: He's very linear in how he attacks and defends, and

1041
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 6: for that, I think it makes him susceptible to a

1042
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 6: veteran striker like a Jeremy Stevens who hits like a

1043
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 6: mac truck.

1044
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with Domina Cruz here.

1045
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 6: I think Jeremy Stevens gets the upset win here and

1046
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 6: derails the train of Zabeat Maga Med Scharipoff.

1047
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: I like Jeremy in this one.

1048
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 7: See ken Flow is so convicted that I don't think

1049
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 7: any pick from a guest picker would talk you off

1050
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 7: of whichever way you go. So Jeremy Mago Metchipop sixteen

1051
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 7: and one. He's won his last twelve submitted Brandon Davis

1052
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: with that modified knee bar at UFC two twenty eight

1053
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: in September. Third UFC submission in his first four UFC fights.

1054
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 7: Now Steven's on the other side. He's defied the odds before.

1055
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 7: This will be his thirtieth UFC appearance on Saturday. He's

1056
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 7: fifteen and fourteen in the octagon. You think he's a beat?

1057
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: Knocks him back to five hundred? Or are you like

1058
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 7: Stevens with the upset chair.

1059
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 9: And this one it's hard for me to go against

1060
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 9: the fellow Jeremy, But I think I think the Beat

1061
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 9: is getting a big step up in competition. I do

1062
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 9: think Stevens, with his wrestling, he's gonna be able to

1063
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 9: keep it standing and his power is always going to

1064
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 9: be dangerous. But I think the Beat, I think he's legit,

1065
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 9: and he's been training up with Mark Henry and Frank

1066
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 9: Edgar and all of them in New Jersey, and I

1067
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 9: think I think he's gonna put it all together here

1068
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 9: and probably beat Jeremy in a hard fought decision.

1069
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good analysis.

1070
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 7: When you talk to guys like Mark Henry about Frankie

1071
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 7: Edgar and they get all wide eyed talking about to beat,

1072
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 7: it's sort of easy, you know, as a fan or

1073
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 7: a commentator to sort of be all in and then

1074
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 7: the performances have been what they've been as well. So

1075
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 7: very excited at the very least to see that fight

1076
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 7: and see how it plays out live on ESPN this weekend.

1077
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: All right now to pay per view the opener.

1078
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 7: Former UFC Bandamway champ Cody Garbrandt fought once in twenty seventeen,

1079
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 7: once in twenty eighteen stop by TJ. Dillashaw in both

1080
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 7: of those fights. So Cody Nola back here looking for

1081
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 7: his first win since twenty sixteen. He's the minus one

1082
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 7: seventy favorite against Pedro Munoz, who comes back at plus

1083
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 7: one forty five. Jeremy Garbrandt or Munos.

1084
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 9: In this fight, I think from what I was looking at,

1085
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 9: Munyas is only ever lost by decision. I think his

1086
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 9: pressure and boxing, he's definitely been falling in love with that.

1087
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 9: I think he does get hit a bit too much,

1088
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 9: and there is that chance that garb Brandt's power could

1089
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 9: connect on something. But I think Pedro continues to work

1090
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 9: a lot on that stuff training out at att and

1091
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 9: I think he's not afraid to put the pressure on Garbrant.

1092
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 9: We're going to see if Garbrandt, if TJ Dillshaw broke

1093
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 9: him or not. I think he's gonna get caught and

1094
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 9: get desperate and shoot, and Munyas will put that patent

1095
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 9: of guillotine on him. So I got Munio's by submission

1096
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 9: very interesting.

1097
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: There were some rumblings that there were a handful of

1098
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 7: possible opponents for garbrand and Munyo's was the guy that

1099
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 7: he wanted. I'm not sure if that's true or not,

1100
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 7: but Kenny, what a big spot for Cody Garbrandt here

1101
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 7: at twenty seven years old against a guy who's just

1102
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 7: no picnic in Munyo's right. Every time I look at

1103
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 7: Pago's body of work, I'm like, man, he's never been

1104
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 7: put away. He's won six of seven, only lost in

1105
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 7: their split decision to John Dodson. Fought three times in

1106
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 7: twenty eighteen. Last two were wins over Brett John's the

1107
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 7: first round stop age of Brian Caraway. What do you

1108
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 7: think Munyo's Garbrandt.

1109
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 6: This is a tricky one, and I'm really curious to

1110
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 6: see how Cody Garbrandt approaches this fight.

1111
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 5: There's two Cody's. There's the emotional Cody that fought TJ.

1112
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 6: Dillashaw, and then there's the masterful Cody Garbrandt that fought

1113
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 6: dominant Cruise. I want to see that one. I want

1114
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 6: to see the guy who makes you miss. I want

1115
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 6: to see the guy who's defensively responsible. I want to

1116
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 6: see the guy who takes the emotions out of the

1117
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 6: game and tries to outskill you and outwork you. I

1118
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 6: don't want to see the guy who wants to knock

1119
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 6: you out right from the get go, puts himself in

1120
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 6: harm's way and just throws down. Can that Cody garbrand

1121
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 6: Bet a Pedro Munos, Yes, but you put yourself at risk.

1122
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 6: You put yourself at risk in the same hooks and

1123
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 6: short shots that TJ. Dillashaw throws at you. And Munos

1124
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 6: has some power and Munos has improved a great deal

1125
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 6: as a Yeah, you're with this submission game as well,

1126
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 6: so it's not like Cody is safe on the ground either.

1127
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 6: But I have to think, I mean, I hope I

1128
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 6: hope that Cody has looked at those fights and has

1129
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 6: looked at his performance against Domina Cruz and said, that's

1130
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 6: how I need to fight.

1131
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: I need to adjust my training style.

1132
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 6: I need to adjust my fight style and be that dude,

1133
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: because MMA is just too dangerous of a sport to

1134
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: just stand in the pocket and trade shots, and a

1135
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 6: lot of these fighters are doing that, and you can

1136
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 6: get a win for a little while, but you can't

1137
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 6: do that for a long term. So I think Cody

1138
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 6: Garbrandt does get the win and comes back with a

1139
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 6: fantastic win.

1140
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 7: All Right garbrand minus one seventy the official pick for

1141
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 7: the Flow all Right Women's strawweight fight here on pay

1142
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 7: per view.

1143
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: Waal Y Jean the minus one forty favorite.

1144
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 7: T Sha Torres coming back at plus one twenty Jong

1145
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 7: eighteen and one. She has won eighteen in a row

1146
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 7: since dropping her pro debut. Doesn't have the strength of schedule,

1147
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 7: certainly of a t Sha Torres, but she is two

1148
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 7: and zero in the UFC. Thus far Jeremy, what do

1149
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 7: you think about Waaley Jeong and the tiny Tornado.

1150
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 9: I think it's a big step up for walys On.

1151
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 9: I think her pressure could definitely win her the fight.

1152
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 9: She's a much bigger fighter and she's skilled everywhere. I

1153
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 9: think the fight will probably play out similar to the

1154
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 9: Danielle Taylor fight, and Tisha will probably survive. But I

1155
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 9: just I haven't seen enough from Tisa lately to really

1156
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 9: put it all together, and I think Zang will get

1157
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 9: it by decision.

1158
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 7: Close fight on paper here, Canny Tsha Torres has fought

1159
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 7: everyone right, Her win over Michelle Waterson was only fourteen

1160
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 7: months ago, but hard not to think more about the

1161
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 7: recent efforts in twenty eighteen losses to Jessica Andrage, and

1162
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 7: then you want to young Jay check Tourres trying to

1163
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 7: avoid a third straight loss here, Ken Flow, how do

1164
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 7: you see a plan out?

1165
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 6: This is a tough one for me. I think Tisha

1166
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 6: has clearly fought tougher competition. She has way more experience

1167
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 6: at the higher levels, and she's improved as a grappler

1168
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 6: as well, both with her offensive and defensive wrestling.

1169
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: I think she's strong for the division as well.

1170
00:55:59,520 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: Zong.

1171
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 6: I feel like she is aggressive. She can finish you

1172
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 6: on the ground, she can finish you on the feet.

1173
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: On an excellent win streak right now, Gosh, I don't

1174
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 6: know which way to go here. I'll go with the

1175
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 6: I'll go with Zong. I think she'll probably get it

1176
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: done by decision.

1177
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 7: Sixteen finishes for Wayey Jong, nine knockout, seven submissions. On

1178
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 7: the other side, eight of Torres's nine UFC fights have

1179
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 7: gone the distance.

1180
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 8: All right.

1181
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 7: Ben Askern's UFC debut is Saturday Night, Folks, Long Time

1182
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 7: Coming eighteen and zero. He won two major titles outside

1183
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 7: the UFC defended those belts they combined seven times. As such,

1184
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 7: he is the prohibited favorite here at his UFC debut

1185
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 7: minus two to seventy five against the former UFC welchweight

1186
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 7: champion Robbi Lawler. He can be had at about plus

1187
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: two to twenty five. Jeremy, what do you think about

1188
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 7: this one? Ben Asker and Robbie Lawler.

1189
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 9: This is definitely one of the toughest ones I've been

1190
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 9: going back and forth with on this card. Definitely a

1191
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 9: big Robby Lawler fan. But I also at the same time,

1192
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 9: I think he's somewhat past his prime, and he's also

1193
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 9: coming off that bad knee injury against RDA. But at

1194
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 9: the same time, he's gone on skids in the past

1195
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 9: and come back even stronger. This one just tears me

1196
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 9: because I feel like there's just not enough of Ben

1197
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 9: Askron against top, top tier, you know, competition, like Robby

1198
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 9: Lawler's face in the UFC. But I think I'm gonna

1199
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 9: have to go with Ben Askron on this one. I

1200
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 9: think he's gonna put a wrestling clinic on Robbie Lawler

1201
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 9: like he's never faced.

1202
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 7: For the second time in three weeks, we have one

1203
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 7: UFC fighter making their debut against a fighter who makes

1204
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 7: their twentieth UFC appearance. Crone Gracie beat Alice Cassis, and

1205
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 7: now Ben Askron will try to beat Robbi Lawler twentieth

1206
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 7: UFC star for Lawler first though since December of twenty seventeen,

1207
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 7: similar layoff for both fighters. Askrons went over Shinya Aoki.

1208
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 7: I believe November of twenty seventeen, Ken Full Lawler Askron

1209
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 7: talk to me.

1210
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: Kid, who do you like?

1211
00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 8: All right?

1212
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 6: So for Askrin, you know, when I see him trade

1213
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 6: on the feet, when I see him move on the feet,

1214
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: I see a guy who just doesn't have very good footwork.

1215
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 6: It looks like he's very vulnerable to being knocked out.

1216
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 6: But time and time again he goes out there. He

1217
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 6: grabs your leg and he finishes every single time, gets

1218
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 6: on top of you and beats you up. Askerin, there's

1219
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 6: something about a guy who comes in with those kind

1220
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 6: of elite skills, you know we were talking about with

1221
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 6: Krohn or Israel Atisanya, and when they're able to force

1222
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: you into that realm, you are in big trouble. And

1223
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 6: you know, if there's one guy who could pull it off,

1224
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 6: it's Robbie Lawler. In the fact that he's facing Ascarin

1225
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 6: in his UFC debut, I think is a good thing.

1226
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 6: I see Robbie Lawler either knocking out Aspirin in the

1227
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 6: first round early with a big shot and just putting

1228
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 6: him to sleep. Or I see Askron just running Robbi

1229
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 6: Lawler through a wood chip or slowly, you know, inch

1230
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 6: by inch, just you know, controlling him, taking him down

1231
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 6: repeatedly and beating him up on the ground.

1232
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 4: We haven't seen Lawler in a little bit.

1233
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 6: I think that's good for him, considering all the wars

1234
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: he's had over the years. But I gotta go with

1235
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 6: Askron here. I think his wrestling is probably the real deal,

1236
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 6: and I think he's able to put Robbie Lawler on

1237
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: his back and get a decision win.

1238
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 8: Oh.

1239
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 5: I just can't wait to see it.

1240
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 7: You know, it seemed like the window had closed for

1241
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 7: good when Ascron kind of semi retired. But yes, here

1242
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 7: he is, and fittingly in some respects, he's making his

1243
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 7: UFC debut alongside his teammate and longtime friend Tyron Woodley,

1244
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 7: the UFC welterweight champion. In the co headliner here, he

1245
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 7: is the minus one to eighty favorite Jeremy against the

1246
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 7: number two rank contender kamaraw Ousman Ousman about plus one

1247
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 7: point fifty title fight here, so we will need the

1248
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 7: round and the method of victory. Jeremy who leaves Vegas

1249
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 7: the UFC welterweight champ.

1250
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 9: This was another tough one. I definitely bounced back and

1251
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 9: forth on. But you know, it interests me to see

1252
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 9: what kind of Tyrone Woodley comes out. If it's the

1253
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 9: aggressive Woodley like he was against Till, or if it's

1254
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 9: the Woodley that kind of sits back like against Steven

1255
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 9: WonderBoy Thompson. I think, you know, if he comes out aggressive,

1256
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 9: this could be a quick, quick fight. You could definitely

1257
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 9: knock Morrow out. At the same time, if he's not

1258
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 9: as aggressive, I could definitely see Kamorrow put him on

1259
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 9: the back foot and do what he's done to a

1260
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 9: lot of his opponents. Tom He keeps the pressure up,

1261
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 9: and even if he doesn't get the takedowns, he uses

1262
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 9: those takedowns in his clinch positions, pushes you up against

1263
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 9: the fence, wears on you. He's just got relentless pressure.

1264
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 9: His striking is coming around training down there in Florida

1265
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 9: with Henry Hoof, and I think, ultimately, I think Tomorrow's

1266
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 9: gonna wear him down over a cooling five round fight,

1267
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 9: and I think we're gonna have a new welterweight champion

1268
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 9: and kamoraw Lousman.

1269
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 5: How about that Ousman? By decision the pick to click

1270
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 5: for Jeremy Angler. All right, ken flow.

1271
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 7: So Woodley's last defense against Darren till September of last year,

1272
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 7: fourth successful defense and for me, the most impressive of

1273
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 7: the bunch is first finished as a champion. But here

1274
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 7: he draws a guy in Kamara Usman, who's not to

1275
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 7: know in the UFC, coming off back to back five

1276
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 7: round wins over Damian Maya and Halfeyel Dosanjos to set

1277
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 7: up this title fight. I know you don't usually pick

1278
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 7: against your friend's flow, and I don't expect you to

1279
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 7: do so here, But what kind of chance do you

1280
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 7: give Kamara Usman to spring the upset?

1281
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: Listen?

1282
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 6: I think Usman has had a very impressive UFC career.

1283
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 6: You look at his consistency, his ability to play it

1284
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 6: safe and not take a lot of damage and utilize

1285
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 6: his strengths as a fighter has been just remarkable. And

1286
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 6: I think, you know, if Damian Maya can pose a

1287
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 6: little bit of problems or at least frustrate Tyron Woodley,

1288
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 6: you gotta think Kamara Usman, with his wrestling, could do

1289
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 6: much much more and be a little bit more of

1290
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 6: a threat than certainly.

1291
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 4: Damien Maya was. So uh you know.

1292
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 6: I do think, though that Tyron has had a lot

1293
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Speaker 6: of experience against guys who try to smother them other wrestlers,

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Speaker 6: and having all that experience and as a wrestler and

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Speaker 6: as a striker, now I just think he's just way

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Speaker 6: too fast and way too powerful on the feet. I'm

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Speaker 6: a huge fan of Kamara Uzman, but I think this

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Speaker 6: is a very dangerous fight for him. I see Tyron

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Speaker 6: Woodley landing a big shot with his right hand and

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Speaker 6: finishing this fight in and around the second round.

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Speaker 7: Tyron Woodley Round two TKO for Ken Floy. You guys

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Speaker 7: are getting me so excited for this weekend. If I

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Speaker 7: was if I was not working right killing all that

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Speaker 7: clock before UFC two thirty five on pay per view,

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Speaker 7: when you're up at six am with children, right, and

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 7: you think, man, I got to kill sixteen hours before

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Speaker 7: the pay per view. Thankfully, when I'm working, I'm not

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Speaker 7: thinking about killing the clock like that. But I cannot

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Speaker 7: possibly tell you how excited I am such a great

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Speaker 7: star and for this co headliner and of course the

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Speaker 7: main event, Jeremy, you have ce Light Heavyweight Championship John Jones,

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Speaker 7: as you would expect, a massive betting favorite mins eighty

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Speaker 7: Anthony Lionheart Smith, the plus six thirty underdog. In our

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Speaker 7: scoring system, A win by Anthony Smith would yield you

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Speaker 7: an extra seven points.

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Speaker 5: The question is, Jeremy, can he do it? Your thoughts

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Speaker 5: on Smith and Jones in the main event.

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Speaker 9: This one's a great fight, and I mean, this whole

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Speaker 9: card is just stacked from top to bottom. I really

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Speaker 9: hope now that we're in the the pre you know,

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Speaker 9: pre week before here and everything leading up, that everything

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Speaker 9: holds together till Saturday, because it's just an amazing card.

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Speaker 9: But this one, I definitely bounced back and forth where

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Speaker 9: my brain tells me one thing and my heart tells

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Speaker 9: me another thing. That you know, Anthony Smith is, He's tough,

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Speaker 9: he's gritty, He's definitely durable. But then I'd go back

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Speaker 9: and I watched, you know, even though he won against

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 9: Volcanos Demir, it scares me that, you know, he started

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Speaker 9: to kind of gas out a bit in that third round.

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Speaker 9: And Jones is just I mean, there's a reason he's

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 9: the he's considered probably the pound for pound greatest. Yeah,

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01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 9: the game plans he comes in there with He's methodical

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 9: and picking you apart, and I mean, I think Smith

1334
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 9: definitely has a chance if he comes out there, if

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01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 9: he puts you know, John's on his back foot and

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01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 9: gets aggressive with him, and he could definitely put him away.

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Speaker 9: He's got power in both hands elbows. That clinch he's

1338
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 9: got is ferocious. But at the same time, Jones has

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01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 9: probably got one of the most dangerous clinch games in

1340
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Speaker 9: all of the.

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Speaker 8: UFC with this one.

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Speaker 9: I bounce back and forth because part of me is like,

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 9: maybe Smith could pull it off, but I think in

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01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 9: the end, Jones is gonna, you know, come out on

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 9: top and continue to prove by he's probably the gust

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 9: fighter we've ever seen. I got John Jones by.

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 8: Round three, t KO.

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Speaker 7: John Jones by round three, TKO. Great job with the picks,

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Speaker 7: Jeremy and spoken like a true MMA fan and true

1350
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 7: UFC fan, Just hoping that the card stays together. See like,

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01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 7: I feel like once I get to Monday of fight week,

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01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 7: I feel falsely like we're good, right Like, as long

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01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 7: as Woodley and Neusman have gotten to this point, we're okay.

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 5: But let's hope it stays together. Jeremy, and thanks for

1355
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 5: coming on, my man.

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 9: No, thank you, guys. It's an absolute pleasure to be

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 9: on with both of you.

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 7: I appreciate it, all right, Jeremy ANDNG. We're making picks

1359
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 7: for Team Annak today. Could you imagine if if your

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 7: son or your daughter ends up rooting for the for

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01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 7: the och rivals. I mean, if my son came home

1362
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 7: like a UFC fan came up to me in Phoenix

1363
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 7: or in Melbourne with a Yankees hat on and said, hey,

1364
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 7: can I take a picture, And you know, when I say,

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 7: you know, I'll make an exception and take a picture

1366
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 7: with a guy the Yankees hat this once. Like my

1367
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 7: inner monologue is like, no, I don't want to take

1368
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 7: a picture with you wearing that hat. Like if my

1369
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 7: son came home with the Yankees hat, he would need

1370
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 7: a new roof under which to live. Honestly, it sounds

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 7: absolutely insane to someone like Joe Rogan right for me

1372
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 7: to say that, but that is the God's honest truth.

1373
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 7: Do not bring a my blood, bring a Yankees hat

1374
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 7: or memorabilia under my roof.

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 5: There's just no way.

1376
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 6: Knowing how big of a sports fan you are and

1377
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 6: knowing you for as long as I have, I know

1378
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 6: that's one hundred percent trip.

1379
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: I know that's one hundred percent trip.

1380
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 7: I'm married into a New York Giants, New York Mets family,

1381
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 7: and at one point my brother in law put like

1382
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 7: a New York Giant scarf around my daughter because I

1383
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 7: was I was working, and they were all up, and

1384
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 7: that did not go over well.

1385
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 5: You know, you can call me immature. That did not

1386
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 5: go over well.

1387
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Speaker 7: All right, Anthony Smith and John Jones, so you've heard

1388
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 7: me say this a million times. Kenny Anthony Smith from

1389
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 7: seventeen and eleven as a pro through twenty eight fights.

1390
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 7: He is now thirty one and thirteen. Great career resurrection

1391
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 7: if you want to call it that forty fifth pro

1392
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 7: fight here, he's coming off of twenty eighteen that was huge.

1393
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 7: It wasn't perfect, lost to Tiago Santos, but then three

1394
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 7: straight finishes to close out the year. Rashad Evans, Shogun Hua, Vulcanows, Demir.

1395
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 7: You may recall John Jones. After Anthony Smith beat Vulcanows Demir,

1396
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 7: Jones was kind of denigrating the performance a little bit,

1397
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 7: like he thought it was okay, but nothing special. And

1398
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 7: now this is the guy that John Jones will be facing.

1399
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 7: Your thoughts, I guess on what type of chance you

1400
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 7: give in Anthony Smith. I mean, I feel like his

1401
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 7: head coach, Mark Montoya might be an X factor here

1402
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 7: because I think that's a really calming influence in the

1403
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 7: corner if they can get to the stool, you know,

1404
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 7: which is no guarantee, But how competitive do you do

1405
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 7: you expect this fight to be and ultimately on which

1406
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 7: side do you fall?

1407
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 6: I have a lot of admiration for Anthony Smith, just

1408
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 6: the fact that he had to battle back just to

1409
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 6: get back into the UFC. Like he has, and you know,

1410
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 6: seeing his current win streak and how he has gone

1411
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 6: about it is extremely impressive, and I think he does

1412
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 6: have a lot of power that John Jones has to

1413
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 6: be careful with. But when it comes to the two

1414
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 6: hundred and five pound of vision, it's very simple. There's

1415
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 6: Daniel Cormier, there's John Jones, and then there's everybody else.

1416
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 6: And Anthony Smith has beaten some tough guys, but no

1417
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 6: one even to the level and the kind of skills

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01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 6: that John Jones brings into the octagon. I don't see

1419
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 6: Anthony Smith really showing anything to John Jones that he

1420
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 6: hasn't seen before. I think the one thing he has

1421
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: going for him is that he does have an interesting rhythm.

1422
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 6: It's kind of an offbeat rhythm that can throw you

1423
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 6: off a little bit. He has an unorthodox style, so

1424
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 6: the way that he throws punches, the timing of it

1425
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 6: can be hard to read. But I think John Jones

1426
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 6: has developed at an amazing rate, both offensively and defensively,

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 6: and I don't think there's a lot of guys that

1428
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 6: can mix it up and throw the kind of combinations

1429
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 6: and combine that with a an octagon intelligence.

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Speaker 5: That John Jones has. It's just extremely rare.

1431
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 6: John Jones knows exactly how he needs to beat you,

1432
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 6: and that's because of his own intelligence that he brings

1433
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 6: into the octagon and also the excellent coaching that he

1434
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 6: brings into Yochtagon. I see John Jones winning this in

1435
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 6: round one. I see him confusing Anthony Smith. I see

1436
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 6: him beating up, beating him up to the body, taking

1437
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 6: the fight to the ground, either by a knockdown or

1438
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 6: a takedown, and finishing off Anthony Smith in round one

1439
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 6: by TKO.

1440
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Speaker 7: Round one TKO for John Jones, and no, I think

1441
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 7: you bring up a lot of good points. And I'm

1442
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 7: the fan and me oftentimes will say, hey, man, just

1443
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 7: get over aggressive and just take some risks and try

1444
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 7: to change the complexion of the fight early. You know,

1445
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 7: not go Katzingano style or Derek Brunson against Robert Whitaker

1446
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 7: and charged John necessarily. But you know, don't let him

1447
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 7: even get comfortable by doing his whole alligator spider thing

1448
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 7: on the ground at the beginning of the fight, right,

1449
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 7: do something crazy right out of the shot.

1450
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I agree with you.

1451
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 6: The fact that you can't fight John Jones with a

1452
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 6: technical fight now, and especially a guy like Anthony Smith.

1453
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 6: And you know, no offense to Anthony Smith. He's not

1454
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 6: the most technical fighter, but that's not what brought him

1455
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 6: to the dance. He he gets grimy, he makes it

1456
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 6: a brawl and that's how he wins his fights. So

1457
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 6: I I agree with you there. I don't think you

1458
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 6: want to fight a technical dance with the John Jones.

1459
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 6: He's just gonna pick you apart.

1460
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, exactly, and we'll see how it goes, you know,

1461
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 7: not unlike ros Nama Units against Joanna Young JJ, for

1462
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 7: Anthony Smith. He knows he's probably gonna have to beat

1463
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 7: John Jones twice, but you only need to beat him

1464
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 7: once to change your life forever. So if Anthony Smith

1465
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 7: can and beat this man, he will effectively change his

1466
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 7: life forever. And we'll see if he can do it.

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01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: UFC two thirty five five days away. I'll be working

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Speaker 7: the fight with Joe Rogan and I think it's Dominic Cruz.

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Speaker 7: I can tell you first start of twenty nineteen for

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Speaker 7: Joe Rogan, so we're excited to have him back. After

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.