1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to episode three eighteen. We'll talk to 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Mackenzie Porter being an actress. She's got a new duet 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: with Dustin Lynch, doing really well on being a big 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: star in Canada and then in America musically not being 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: known as well. It's kind of a weird dynamic there. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: We're in Canada's a big star here, people are like, oh, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: we're still learning about you. But Mackenzie Porter coming up 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: in just a little bit next week as far as 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: we know, still we should have Reba for an hour. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: I've never heard Reba for an hour before, so sometimes 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: things get moved. But I'm just let everybody know next 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: week should be Reba right here on this podcast. My 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Favorite five releases new music this week that's out at 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: number five. Kane Brown and her This is called Blessed 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and Free. I'm already, I'm already number four. Brandy Carlyle 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: put out a new album called In These Silent Days. 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Here's a new song called it Right on Time was 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: right at number three this week. Justin Moore has a 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: new song called with the Woman You Love This woman 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: you talk breakers a farmhouse, some painted fried white, With 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the Woman You Loved At number two New Country do 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: a Walker. Country has a song out called Liar Everybody 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Knows I'm a Liar can Love Him? And a number 24 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: one Lvi Shane, who you may be familiar with from 25 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: this song here called my Boy, He Ain't My Blood, 26 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Ain't Got my Name. He has a new song out 27 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: called My Kind of Trouble sells Dangers, Driving Me my Heart, 28 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: and a Cloud The kind of Trouble Luck Dedan Team, 29 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: which he played on the radio show this week. They 30 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: got They got so good, like who knew? I feared 31 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: He's good because you don't really get a deal and 32 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: you gotta be good to get to this point. But man, 33 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: just so good. So those are the five I'm really 34 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: looking forward to this week. Dustin Lynch has a new 35 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: song called hunting Land. Blake Shelton has come back as 36 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: a country boy. Brandon Leigh has back Home the Pistol Land. 37 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: He's are putting out a Christmas song called snow Globe, 38 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: So there you go. Quick news. Dolly Parton's TikTok account 39 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: was fake. She didn't join. They took like an old 40 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: video off here talking about the Imagination Library. Right, yeah, 41 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: I saw that I got tricked to. You did I 42 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: thought it was her. Garth Brooks, Trusia year Wood, and 43 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: more added to the five thousand broadcast of The Grand 44 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Old Lopry. It's gonna be really cool so far, Terry Clark, 45 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the Gatlin Brothers, Chris Janson, Jenny Seeley, Garth Brooks, Tricia, 46 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Dustin Lynch, Darius Rucker. It's it's pretty cool. Um, let's 47 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: see what else. Zach Brown Band pauses the comeback tour 48 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: after Zach test positive for COVID. We're supposed to have 49 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: him on the radio show, and he was like, I 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: got a family emergency. Turns out he got COVID. That 51 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: was I mean, I think that was the day, because 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a whole big thing with him, whether 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna play and stuff. A tape for an tape 54 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: having an unreleased John Lennon song sold for fifty eight 55 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: thousand bucks. No word of the song was any good 56 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: or not. And then finally, Joey Ramons guitar that he 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: played on all fifteen Ramons albums and over two thousand 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: live performances sold for nine dollars. That's awesome. That is substantial, 59 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: but it is such an integral part of the Ramons 60 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: if he played on every record and all those shows, 61 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and how do you keep that guitar? I mean, for 62 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: his reckless as they were, I'm surprised he kept the 63 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: same guitar and was able to Yeah, all right, that's 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: what's up. Interview the McKenzie Porter coming up in a second. 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: All right, we're here with McKenzie Porter, which we met 66 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times. You put them on because we'll 67 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: play some music too. We've met a couple of times, 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: maybe one time one time and then I like, not 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: in a creepy way, but we go to the same 70 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: spin studio, so we you spin, but like that's not 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: the place where you're like and you know your your 72 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: friends with their studio. We spun in the same class, 73 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: and were you amazed at how great of a spinner 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: around am? I think I'm always like after you were 75 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: before you um so either like I see you drenched 76 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: or you see me drenched in sweat, I'm also terrible 77 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, something I try. But see the difference 78 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: for me is not like going to that class. I 79 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: need the motivations and the right teacher makes the spin 80 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: class because I'm I'm only gonna go as strong as 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: I'm being motivated, unless like I'm on the peloton because 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: I have one of those where I've got numbers in 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: front of me, and I can chase those numbers and 84 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: I can chase those paths. But if I have a 85 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: good teacher and spending class, I think I actually do 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: better than I do on the peloton. And Kenzie is 87 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: the best is great, She's so good. But do you 88 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: ever like, are you like able to get on beat 89 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: with everything? I don't know. No, probably not. I mean 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I try to if it's fast. Here's the thing, I'm 91 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I like the class, but I can't 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: keep up with the dancing. Sometimes there's a lot of 93 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: choreography that I call it choreography because I don't go 94 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: enough to know. Okay, guys, you know what you got 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: three two, left, right, elbow Nie, but but and I 96 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what's happening. So then I 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: just said, I'm just screwing. I'm kind of petals harder 98 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: they can. That's that's the way to go. I do 99 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: I do forel like the first two songs, and then 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: my legs are like absolutely not. How often do you 101 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: go to spin class? Um? It really depends, like if 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm in town, like I'm going tomorrow. Um, so I'll 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: try to go like three times a week if I'm 104 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: in town. Yeah, and then I hit shed in between. 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be able to tell because I'm like a 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: little weak thing. But I try to work out a lot. 107 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: It was weird going to spin class when we had 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: to wear masks. See I never win then. But um, 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the first time I came back after, I was like, 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: this is not good because everyone's just like breathing. It's 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I mean it was the worst part 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: about the pandemic. I'm just kidding. Are you going to 113 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: use that quote and be like he said, Oh, you 114 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: trust me, they will. It happens all the time. So 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: you're on the road a lot. Now, I'm on the 116 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: road a lot. Now some out. Jordan Davis um the 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: coolest human ever. So chill. He's fine. He's actually I've 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: met better. You've met better. He's actually a good friend 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: of mine. So and and he is a good dude. 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you my one Jordan day of a 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: story that I get to tell quite often frequently. Um, 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: I had Jordan now opening for me. He was my 123 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: middle act I would have. I would do stand up. 124 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: We're playing theaters, and Jordan's would did middle and had 125 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: a baby opener, and so it was only for a 126 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: few shows. And I was like, hey, Jordan, our first 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: shows in Kentucky and he drove drove over the easy 128 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Drive from here because I don't know where we were, 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: maybe Lexington. And he walks out and I was like, hey, okay, 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: I'll see you after your set because I need someone 131 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: who's going to kind of lift people because I'm doing jokes. 132 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: I've made the mistake of putting like I had to kneel. 133 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Town's out with me, and she is so freaking good, 134 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: but she made everybody cry, and so I have to 135 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: go out and tell jokes and dig out of a 136 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: hole because everybody so emotionally whooped from her. Just but Jordan, 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the guy. He's gonna go 138 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: out to his half hour. Everybody's gonna be up feeling good, 139 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: got some good, upbeat songs. And he walks out and 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: he plays two songs and walks off stage. It's like, 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: oh man, thanks, so what do you mean what's happening here? 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: He goes, I did my two songs. I was like, 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: what do you mean two songs supped minutes? It's like, oh, 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: so I had to like rush to get dressed. So 145 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: what I made him do it was just misunderstanding and 146 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready. I had half an hour supposed to 147 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: go out, and so I go out and I started 148 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: doing my jokes and I say, okay, well, you're gonna 149 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: come to your other fifteen in the middle of my set. 150 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: So I did the first part of my set, then 151 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: he came out and then did the middle And I 152 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: tell that story as much as possible, just to humiliate 153 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: him because he deserves it. Basically, songs that like that 154 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: would stress me out to feel like well, he was 155 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: like thank you, and the crowd started of cheering, and 156 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: I was like, it's the guy doing an encore in 157 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: the middle of like the middle set. But good guy, huh, 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: such a good guy. Like I kind of want him 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: to like build me a fire and like chopston Wood 160 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: just because he has lumberjack vibes. He's got like such 161 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: lumberjack vibes in the best way. So you're out playing 162 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: those shows, how often are you guys on the road? 163 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: We're doing it, um basically every weekend. We were out 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: last weekend. I think this weekend we have off and 165 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: then out again. So who's on that? Just YouTube me 166 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: four and then Jordans. Those guys are really good, so 167 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: like surprisingly and I definitely want to talk about you. 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: But I had those guys in my studio once because 169 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: we were accusing them of stealing our look Eddie and 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: myself because we have a comedy duo called The Raging Idiots, 171 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: and um Eddie wears the hat and I obviously can't see, 172 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: and I have the glasses. We were like, all right, 173 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: all right, kids, that's look. That is true. So we 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: brought him in. We competed with them, and we won. 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: You should take like a percentage, Well we said we 176 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: would take their glasses in their hat, but then we 177 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: felt bad for them. And but there's when they started singing, 178 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you're way better than I thought 179 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: you would be. They're really good and there and they're 180 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: very nice. I brought him out on the road through 181 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a couple of festivals this year. It was Us and 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: Russell Dickerson and Maddie and Tay and s Fourth and 183 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: they came and opened and they're they're just they're so 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: good live and They're good people and really funny accents. 185 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I love their accents. You don't expect it, Yeah, I 186 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: love their accents. They were like a good that's a 187 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: good like hype up band. Like I feel like their 188 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: energy is like if you're playing or if you're doing 189 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: comedy after um, they can make more than two songs. 190 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: You know who else is a good hype up person? 191 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: So what do you play? You hop out on stage? 192 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I know you from the American version of you, which 193 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: is a couple of things. I've played some of your 194 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: music on the Women of by Our Country, You're Welcome 195 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: and then the song with Destin. But what's weird? And 196 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: I'll compare this to one of my friends who was 197 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: a professional tennis player. He would say in the States 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: he's well known, but he would go to Europe and 199 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: he was king dangling. Like people would be like, oh 200 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: my god, because tennis there was so massive. Where you 201 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: have you were like the most played country artist in 202 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Canada and one of the top five all genre aretists. 203 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Like if you go back home, is it actually a 204 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: thing where you're like, well, I'm kind of famous again. 205 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: It's like a nice I feel like it's a good 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: bounce because here I get like very grounded, and then 207 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: when I go home like, oh, I'm actually kind of cool, 208 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: and then I come back here I'm like, Nope, not cool. 209 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome that you can do that. Yeah, So I mean, 210 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: obviously my big goal is UM in the US, because 211 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: whatever here I feel like just translates UM. But you 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: know that's a longer road. I want to play a 213 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: few clips here. Let's play a little bit of Unholy Me. Mike. 214 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: We featured a last weekend on the Women of My 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Heart Country and then the song with Dustin is at 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: number eighteen now and it's moving, moving, Yeah, thinking about 217 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: you with dust then and mckensey porter, we'll just get 218 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: being made out of the brain. Where we went all 219 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: this stuff traveling, where's the coolest place? You guys have 220 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: been able to do that together? So are very both 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: of Our very first show back was UM they Dustin 222 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: hosted like a Vegas thing in a situation in Vegas UM, 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: which was like so rowdy and so fun UM. So 224 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool to play. Whenever you guys came 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: into the studio that that was the first time that 226 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: we had met. And it's always a weird dynamic for 227 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: me to have Dustin. I'll just use Dustin as an example. 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Artist A with new artists. We'll call it artists B 229 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: because Dustin's there. Because Dustin's there, and I'm interviewing Dustin, 230 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: and but there's also someone with him, and i'd like 231 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: to spend a little time with them. And this is 232 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: not just you that happen. It happens anytime the situation happened, 233 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: and I like, would like I would have talked to 234 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: you more, but then I don't want Dustin to be 235 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: over there, like, hey, bro, yeah, like we're here because 236 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: of me. And so I remember you guys coming in, 237 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: and I did talk to you quite a bit. Yeah, 238 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully every I thought that was cool, and you 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: felt I thought it was really cool. You felt like involved, 240 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: And you know, I struggle with that, making sure that 241 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: everybody feels like they're you know, they have a place 242 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: at the table. But Dustin's version of the story, and 243 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure yours is going to be similar. But i'd 244 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: like to hear from your perspective, is that he blindly 245 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: heard your audition, your tape. I don't know what you 246 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: call it, you the vocal that you laid down for 247 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: that that he was just listening to them and heard 248 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: you and said hey, I like her, and it went 249 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: from there. It wasn't It wasn't more than that. So 250 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: on your side, who calls you and says record and 251 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: can you not go hey Dustin, it's really me, Like 252 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: from your side, tell me the story. Well, I didn't 253 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: know Dustin, so I didn't really have a way to 254 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: like reach out to him and be like not even 255 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: like Instagram or Twitter, be like, I mean, I followed him, 256 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: but he didn't follow me. So um, basically how it 257 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: happened was my manager just told me that, hey, he's 258 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: auditioning all these different girls because the Lauren Lena version 259 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: timing didn't work out with them. So he's like, you 260 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: want to lay down a vocal? Yeah, of course I'd 261 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: like to lay down a vocal. So I went into 262 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the studio with my producer, Joey Moy and we laid 263 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: down which I thought was a pretty great vocal um 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and then just sent it away And it was like 265 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: three weeks nothing when you laid down the vocal and 266 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: that wasn't over the track. Did they send you the 267 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: track or like the stems to make your version of it? Yeah? 268 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: They sent me the demo version, which was just I'm 269 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: not actually sure who was listening the girl version of that, 270 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: and then I could listen to Lauren's Lauren's version online. 271 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: But then they just sent me just yeah, the track 272 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: and it's like an instrumental version, got it exactly, and 273 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a fine line of I 274 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: didn't want it to be too close because then it's 275 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: like I'm copying, but I also didn't want to be 276 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: too far because then it's you know, it doesn't sound 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: like the same song, or it just sounds like I 278 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: just went for a totally different vocal um. But I 279 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: feel like we kind of threaded that line pretty nicely. 280 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: And then again, didn't hear anything. I'm like, okay, you 281 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: know those there's so many opportunities in um this industry, 282 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm in the film industry too, like that just 283 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: come and go and you never hear anything. So probably 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: three weeks later, um, I get a little follow on 285 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Instagram from Dustin. I'm like, oh, that had to be 286 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: either two things about to happen when you're married to right, 287 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: things about to happen something shady. Yeah, but knowing like 288 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I had heard a lot about Dustin and 289 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: he's not shady at all. Um. So I was like, 290 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: I think this means something really good. And then like 291 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: a week after that, for real, the first thing you 292 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: saw him follow you, it's just nobody's listening to me. 293 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: And you're right. I have I screenshot at it, send 294 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: it to my manager. I'm like, I'm doing this song. 295 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: He's like, no, you're not calmed down, your psycho, You're 296 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: not like not, that doesn't mean anything. I'm like, yes 297 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: it does. Why would you follow me? And um? But 298 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: then I didn't hear anything. And then um, a week later, 299 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: I get like a random number calling my phone, but 300 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: I just sent it to voicemail because we all did that, 301 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: a card warrant and yeah, like insurance for something. Um, 302 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: and he left a voicemail. And it's funny because I 303 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: was doing another InTru and I just found the voicemail 304 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it, like if the song ever, 305 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, well, it already kind of doing whatever the 306 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: little hand thing you just did, and I think it's got, 307 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, quite a bit of you know potential. I 308 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: think it's got a good good momentum as well. Um. 309 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: So he says, yes, I just think you're What you 310 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: tell yourself is so different than what I would have 311 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: told myself, because I from that story, I draw that 312 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: you are a positive person sometimes, so I came I'm 313 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: either like so positive or like just like down in 314 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the dumps. I'm never positive about myself. Yeah, if that 315 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: would have happened to me, I would have said, oh, man, 316 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: he was looking at people and he accidentally hit follow 317 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: on mine of all the people he was because he's 318 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: looking through and that that's what I would have told myself. 319 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Really like even like, yeah, that's what I would because 320 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: when you were telling that, I was like, hey, good 321 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: for her. She immediately saw what positively could come from this. 322 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: And I would have been like, oh crap, he doesn't 323 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: even know he followed me. Now he's gonna have to 324 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: unfollow me, and that's gonna be awkward because if I 325 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: ever actually do meet him, I'm gonna know he's gonna know. See. 326 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: That's why that's why I don't do what you like. 327 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: My mind is like if he accidentally or if he 328 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: accidentally followed you, he'd quickly hit it and I wouldn't 329 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: even see it unless he doesn't realize until you post. Now, 330 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't make an understand. There's no reason to be. 331 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Let me play some of this sucks now before I do. 332 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: With Virginia to Vegas. What's Virginia to Vegas? So, okay, 333 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: he's one guy. He's that's his artist name, got it um? 334 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: But he it was originally UM a duo and his 335 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: his duo partner was from Vegas. He was originally from 336 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Virginia and they met in Toronto. So the two is 337 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: like TiO, like Toronto Virginia, Oh TiO, but you save 338 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Virginia to Vegas and then you are you. You're on 339 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: this song as well. Okay, let me hear this. I 340 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: can't even that's cool. That's really cool. Yeah, was like 341 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: going to tell you there's an F bomb coming, just 342 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: doesn't it's not live. That's really cool. How did you 343 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: get that one? Um? Kind of same thing. He had 344 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: heard my song so in Canada. I obviously I'm a 345 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: country artist, but one of my songs last year went 346 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: to pop radio too because I got so big a country. 347 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And so I 348 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: think it's like I think about like number five or 349 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: something on pop. So he had heard it and he 350 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: just reached out to the label and said, would you 351 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: want to do something with me? Which one which? Oh 352 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: these days? Oh here it is I think Pocas. So 353 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: you've got three back to backs in Canada. I just 354 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: want to go through your Canadian life before we get 355 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: to your American life. I'm just so intrigued by all 356 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: of this, just at you know, kind of the dichotomy 357 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: of you're here you can probably go to the grocery 358 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: store and not really worry about anybody, but back home 359 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: you could probably have to worry about people being like, hey, 360 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: let me get a picture, not worry, but I'm knowing 361 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: COVID I worry, right. Yeah, it's a it's a different now, 362 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: but that's that's that to me is just fascinating. Here 363 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: is about you number one, like saying, was this your 364 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: first chart success of any song? Um no, before I 365 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: signed to Big Loud. Here I put like an independent 366 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: record out and I put it. I think there's like 367 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: three singles off that that. I mean they I mean 368 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: they didn't do like amazing, but like eleven and oh really, 369 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: so you did actually have something going for you. That's 370 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: how I got my record. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Here 371 00:18:51,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: is seeing other people that's a good one. I mean, 372 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: obviously there all good. I like that one. Yeah, yeah, 373 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I like that one the most. That one's not though, 374 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: it's not on the EP. Huh, no it is, it is? 375 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Ye let me let me look at this. Oh it is. 376 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: And it's highlighted at the very top. Yes, it's actually 377 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: highlighted green, extremely bold. You have seven songs on the EP, 378 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: drinking Songs. It was put out late last year. Yeah. 379 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: And so the single now though, is Unholy Me un 380 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: Lonely But wait, yeah, this says look just so you 381 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: see this, I mean probably that's probably what it should be. 382 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: If you read over there, he's fired and he had 383 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. He actually runs cameras. What 384 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: does that mean? Not holy? I guess. So let me 385 00:19:54,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: play un Lonely Me again? Like we should rewrite it, probably, 386 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, no, I hear it all different now, um, okay, 387 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: so that's the new single. Only mean it sounds like 388 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: almost like a dirty song. Then kind of you thought 389 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: I didn't go there in my mind, did you? Like? 390 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of did. Really. I thought it 391 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: was like someone who could like do better for themselves 392 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: spiritually and like they're chasing the dream of being well 393 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: unholding me though, it sounds like maybe you got you 394 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: got dirty mind and a gutter to a guy like me. Um, 395 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: So when did you move to Nashville full time? I 396 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: moved in, Um, you've been in for a while. Then 397 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I actually lived down the street. Do you know. Do 398 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you know Caroline don Johnson? She was like a country 399 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: singer back in the day. She related to Don Johnson, 400 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: the actor. I don't think so, okay, yeah, um, but 401 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: she had a poolhouse and I stayed there and just 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: try to write with whoever I could write with. Why 403 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: did you move to Nashville just to be a country singer? 404 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Like that was the go because it feels like you 405 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: have this list of talents and you could have pursued 406 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: it in a direction. Why country music was that big 407 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: where you were from. I grew up on like a 408 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: cattle and biser ranch. So my dad's a rancher and 409 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: that's all I mean, in the middle of nowhere, Like 410 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: literally the next town to where our ranch was was 411 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: three thousand people. So just boonies, Um, and that's all 412 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: that we listened to. Your dad, my whole family. Did 413 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: anyone in your family play music at all? Yeah? So 414 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: my dad played in a band, my brother um one 415 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: Canadian idol, my sisters in a band. My grandma is 416 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: like a wicked piano player. My cousins and I had 417 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: a band like just like very musical, yeah, but kind 418 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: of like annoying where it was like always doing shows 419 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: and trying to get people to come to our shows. 420 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: And was it expected that you would be musical? I 421 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: think so. I mean I started playing violin when I 422 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: was four, and piano, and I think my mom's like, 423 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: why weren't you a doctor? I'm like, because you've literally 424 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: put me in all these lessons at four years old. 425 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: How many brothers and sisters like one brother, one sister, 426 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: sister old or younger, they're both older both and the 427 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: brother one Canadian idol. The sister, she mused, are gol 428 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: though she's really still yeah, she is more like local, 429 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: like she does a bunch of weddings and that kind 430 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: of stuff. And then Kaitlin, my older brother um one, 431 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: toured it, did the whole thing, and then he decided 432 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: he hated it and went to school. So he's not 433 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: in music anymore. No, he's a colder in Silicon Valley, 434 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: very different. He was just he honestly, his that whole 435 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: experience for him was um, pretty brutal, like winning a 436 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: show like that and then getting stuck in the contract 437 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: like that, and he just doesn't have the personality for it. 438 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: He just hated the attention and hated the lifestyle of it. 439 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Who are the judges on Canadian Idol because now I 440 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: second think about it, Yeah, God, because I've been on 441 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: idol for four seasons here in the States, but they 442 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: show us in Canada now, where I don't even know 443 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: if they have Canadian Idol. They don't. And I think 444 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: the deals now, like this was back in I was fourteen, 445 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: This isn't a long time ago. Um, so I feel 446 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: like the deals now are totally different. Contracts are totally 447 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: you still owe them a bit, but it's not like 448 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: it used to be, right, you know, like tied in 449 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: for like twenty years. Um, the judges, oh my gosh, 450 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I can't remember, but it would 451 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: be like Atlantis and one of the bar naked ladies. 452 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: And so he just's like, four, did you ever do 453 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: any of those? No? You never tried out? Was it 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: because of his experience? You're like, it's not for me? 455 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: I think so I just feel like I saw behind 456 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: the curtain in that specific situation. I don't know if 457 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's different. But even American. 458 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: You didn't try any American versions. I don't think I 459 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: could because I'm not American. I'm like, it's not can 460 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: you of course you can. We have people all the 461 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: time from other countries on there. It's not like running 462 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: for president. They can reality and we up. If you 463 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: can sing and make appelling TV, we don't give a credit. 464 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: I literally couldn't even like get t s a pre 465 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: check until I got my like citizenship. Like I was like, 466 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: I can't do anything, So I thought, good to show 467 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: are you know you cannot be on the voice You 468 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: so you're a citizen because you're married to an American? Yeah, 469 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: I'm like a green card holder. Okay, so I have 470 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: to be married to him for another two years. And 471 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: then obvious citizenship, did you do the thing where you 472 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: had to go in different rooms and they ask you questions? 473 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: We didn't, but we went in together and they asked 474 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: like the most bizarre questions like is your dad and 475 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: the mob. I'm like, I don't think so. But there 476 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: was like so many that I wanted to make jokes about, 477 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's the place to joke. Mike. 478 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: Do you got put into Canadian Airport? Pierson Airport in 479 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: the country, we were going Canadian Airport? Person is probably 480 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: like we were going. We were in Toronto because my 481 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: radio show is now we're on in the morning in 482 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: some places, but we're on at night all over Canada. 483 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: And so we went up and I was speaking to 484 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of Canadian broadcasters and people who run stations 485 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and companies, and on the way there, on the way back, 486 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: trying to get back. On the way back, his name 487 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: matches with some like serial killer or something. Somebody they 488 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: were looking for had my exact same name to like, hey, 489 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: we gotta take you questions, not me, and they held 490 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: him and I was like, we're trying to get back 491 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: into the States, and I had to decide, am I 492 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: going to hang back and be loyal to my guard? 493 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Am I gonna get on the plane? I'll pack it 494 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: on the plane. But luckily he got to come in 495 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: on the Luckily they let him out justin just made 496 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: the flight. Are you so scared? Yeah? I thought I 497 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: was gonna get a second Canada. What was it so bad. 498 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: It was nice. They're gonna be fine. It's just cold. Yeah, 499 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: that's my only beef with Canada. It's so cool. It's 500 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: just hate it. Not the nicest people, so nice where 501 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: I think that. I was standing out a corner into 502 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: in Toronto and I was looking to find this restaurant. 503 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: We were going to some fancy restaurant and I'm scrolling 504 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: and like, that's not it, looking for directions and someone 505 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: comes up to me and they came up to me 506 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: so aggressively. I thought they were about to rob me, 507 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: but they were like can we're Can I help you 508 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: get to And I was like are you serious? And 509 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: they were like yeah, it's right over here, and then 510 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: they took your wallet. We went. We went to a restaurant. 511 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: I wish I knew what it was called, but it's 512 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: supposed you know, what's sort of food, what's private, right, 513 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and you can only go in if it's like Soho 514 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: house or something. I don't know, Okay, I'm surprised they 515 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: let us in. We went in and you know who 516 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: was there as the Daniel Levy's sitting who's Canadian and 517 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: he's sitting like two tables over and I take my 518 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: phone out and I'm not too cool to take a 519 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: picture of something, but not with but if I'm in 520 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: the creeper, So I pulled my phone out and I'm 521 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: like sneaking it. And you can always tell on someone. 522 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: I can tell people are sneaking pictures of me. So 523 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like sneaking it, and someone came over said, 524 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: no phones in here. I guarantee you as a Soho 525 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: house and they don't let phones, and so do you 526 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: find it? I think that's what it was. Well, I 527 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't pay the bill and I did almost get kicked 528 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: out for taking a picture of Daniel. What's funny is 529 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: I auditioned for Ship's Creek and did callbacks with him 530 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: in the room, and he's like, so funny. I didn't 531 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: get it. Should have got it, but I mean the 532 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: girl who got it was way better. But which role? 533 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: The sister? Yeah? I love the show. Do you like 534 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: the show? Yeah? I seen every episode so and I 535 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: watched it on pop TV before it became like it 536 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: was like a slow following kind of yeah. I mean 537 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: I remember when it was. It was just a Canadian 538 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: comedy with the dad from American Pie and I stumbled 539 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: on it and it was on the Pop TV channel 540 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: and so I would watch it. Um. Since then, it's 541 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: blown up, but it's one of the literally the biggest 542 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: shows in the past, you know, ten years or so. 543 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: But you did you got a call back on that, 544 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: meaning you went an audition for just a producer. So 545 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I went, I did the initial edition and then they 546 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: called me back and it was me and him in 547 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the room, him reading, me reading the sister part um 548 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: and producers and so how do they did? They call 549 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: and tell you know, you don't get this. It just 550 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: goes over here. That's what happens. Like I pitched so 551 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: many TV shows. I have a deal with BBC and 552 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: we do shows and I have and they act like 553 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: they love it. Did They act like they loved you 554 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: in the audition, like you're just so good, and they're 555 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: like this is the greatest show idea, like we we're 556 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna go right now to Peacock, We're gonna go to 557 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Amazon's gonna love it. And then just like three months later, 558 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm like what happened. We're like, oh, nothing, I'm sorry 559 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you didn't get it. You know what. That's probably why 560 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: you maybe like jumped to the Morning Negative because in 561 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: those situations like in an audition room, I do too, 562 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: because it's just you here, like you're you're it, you're 563 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: the girl, and then just crickets. Most of my career 564 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: is being told no, which people don't see that because 565 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: they only cr yes. Is because that is what is visible, 566 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: you know. And we also don't go online and go 567 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: look at everything that I just didn't get picked for. 568 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I think it's generally a culture thing too, but you know, 569 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot of knows, especially in my TV 570 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: world and radio. Now I've gotten to the level at 571 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: this point where there aren't many knows because it's that's 572 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: that success is there in the TV world. It's knows 573 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: for me constantly, which I'm assuming as an actress that's 574 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: what it is for you. Yeah, I mean it's like yeah, 575 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: point nine. The thing is is, like I try to 576 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: think of it as that is the job. Auditioning is 577 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: the job, and then you if you get picked, that's 578 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: just like the most amazing like icing on top. But 579 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: like what your job is every day is to go 580 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: into the room and audition and not get picked. Did 581 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: you ever move to l A and and try to 582 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: live and be why? I tell artists. A lot of 583 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: times they have to live here is because you have 584 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: to be available because they may call and go, hey, 585 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: we need you for this thing, and if you're a 586 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: new artist, you need to be at that thing, or 587 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: if you're a songwriter. And in Los Angeles, same thing 588 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: where people would tell me to, hey, you need to 589 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: move out here if you're getting I'm not going to 590 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: because you want to, like do would you want to 591 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: do like a TV series? I don't want to. I 592 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: don't want to act. I did like five four episodes 593 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: in Nashville and it was fine, But I'm not an actor. 594 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: I could see you acting, but I'm not an actor. 595 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. I do radio. I'm a comedian, I 596 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: do a right books. I'm not an actor. So no, 597 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't move out there for that. But you moved 598 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: out there because of the same thing, like you wanted 599 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: to be around where there were auditions. I moved out 600 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: there so at the beginning went for like what was 601 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: called pilot season. They don't really do that so much anymore, 602 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: but like especially now because of COVID. But I moved 603 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: into a house with five actresses, five girls, and I 604 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: remember being like, this is going to be a disaster 605 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: because we're all similar looking and probably read for the 606 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: same characters. And UM, it was the best time of 607 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: my life. We all are so tight. We had the 608 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: best time. There was one part were all auditioned for 609 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: UM and I ended up booking it, so moved there 610 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: for two months and then had to go and film 611 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: the show that I booked. But they were cool with it. 612 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Supportive group, super supportive. Yeah, and to this day some 613 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: of my best friends. That's pretty cool. I wouldn't expect that. 614 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it either. I remember having the conversation 615 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: with my dad being like, this is gonna be so competitive, 616 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: and but it wasn't. They're just awesome, awesome girls. When 617 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: you came through with you were with Dustin Amy, my 618 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: co host, my friend, she just kept looking at you 619 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: weird and I was like what. She goes, I don't know, 620 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I can't, like I've met her somewhere, and I was like, 621 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you met her because there 622 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: have been instances where people have come in and we've 623 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: literally met them as they were valeting the car or 624 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: at the grocery store, and now they're artists and they're 625 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: like we met you and he was like, I can't 626 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: picture it, and then she goes, you're on that show 627 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Tylers Travelers. Yeah that should still go. No, we got canceled, 628 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: but after a couple of three seasons. Yeah, but um, 629 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: it's like a time travel show. I got to play 630 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: this like super super badass girl, like martial artist doctor. Um, 631 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: I gotta do a bunch of cool stuff on that show. 632 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: Lots of fight scenes. That's why I'm so ripped. I 633 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: don't know if you're ripped or not. I can't tell you. 634 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't imagine if I just like pull this up 635 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: and just like either way, I think it would be expected. 636 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of country music stars are like 637 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: crazy good athletes too. Girl, I can't throw a ball. 638 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: I can't know where were you on the call sheet 639 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: of Travelers. That's huge. Yeah. So Eric McCormick was one 640 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: from Will and Grace. Yeah, and what was he? Like? 641 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: So so sweet? Him and his wife Janet are like 642 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: the most amazing people we went to. They had a party, 643 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: an Emmy party that him and oh god, who's hosting it? 644 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I forget um Like he's a massive singer, celebrity John. 645 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: She's like I don't know, he's like some he's a 646 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: huge religious guy at Jesus. So we did this show 647 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: and Eric and Janitor like very hippy and at the 648 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: end of it, he's very hippy, just like yeah, just yeah. 649 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: And we did this thing where we wrote down wishes 650 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: on a piece of paper and like burnt them on fire. 651 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: But then you have to catch it in the air 652 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: on fire then the wish would come true. And we 653 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: were like, okay, let's do it. And Janet was so 654 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: serious about it, like she would barrel down a table 655 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: to catch your wish so it would come true. And 656 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are so awesome and huge karaoke people, 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: so we do that. It's wild to think of the 658 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: guy from Will and Grace who lived in New York City, 659 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: in my mind is like a you know, like a 660 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: natural dude, like a man of the earth. Yeah, and 661 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: if you like, in his most natural state, he is 662 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: doing karaoke. That's his favorite thing on earth to do. 663 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: Can he sing? Great singer? Do you ever have you 664 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: watched Ted Lasso at all? Okay, Well, there's a character 665 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: who's the owner of the soccer team who you just 666 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: don't expect and she she's like the greatest singer ever, 667 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: just out to know where she's singing karaoke and one 668 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: of the scenes you talking about Mike, and then all 669 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden you realize she is just a fantastic singer. 670 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Did you ever get to sing on that show? At always? 671 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: There ever a spot where they were There wasn't UM 672 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I wanted for that show. My character is just it's 673 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: a it's a drama. I just kind of wanted to 674 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: keep it separate. Just sometimes I feel like maybe that 675 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: would have gotten like cheesy or something if I tried 676 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: to introduce that, So I just wanted to keep it separate. 677 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Would they allow you to have any sort of um 678 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: influence on the writing or could you at times improval 679 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: line like Okay, let's just see where this goes? Um? 680 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Not too much. It was so sci fi and my 681 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: character was a doctor, so like I wouldn't want to 682 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: improvise a doctor doing surgery because every all my lines 683 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: have to be like, Okay, this line of fifteen words, 684 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: I don't know eight of them, so I'd have to 685 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: look them up and I wouldn't be a very good 686 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: improper in that. That's that's interesting. I had to get 687 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: a cd L, which is a truck driver's license for 688 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: my show Breaking Bobby Bones, because I had to go 689 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: and drive a freaking eighteen wheeler, like literally on the 690 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: streets with other people where I could have killed them. 691 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: But I had to get that license. And I've never 692 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: been in an eighteen wheeler before never, I've never been 693 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: in it, much less should I have a license. But 694 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I had to learn the book, so I just had 695 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: to learn words in order. It was like I was 696 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: memorizing the script of things. I had no idea what 697 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: so I could go and pass the test. Did you 698 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: pass it first time? I passed. There were three parts, 699 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: and I passed the first, passed the first part the 700 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: first time. But when I went in, the guy goes, 701 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: why are you taking all three parts at the same time. 702 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I said, because my show says I've got three weeks 703 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: to get this license. And he's like, this is the 704 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: dumbest thing I ever heard, that you're not gonna pass 705 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: all three parts. He said, you take one test, then 706 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: you come back a month later, take another than a 707 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: month to take another. And so I went and I 708 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: passed the first part, and then I went back again 709 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: and passed second time. But that's when you say that. 710 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: That's what it reminds me of. I had to just 711 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: remember words in order even though I didn't know what 712 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: the words meant, because I was never going to know 713 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: what the words meant. Yeah, it's like a totally different 714 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: language of vocabulary. Did you learn anything about being a 715 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: doctor though, Oh, I can do I could stitch you 716 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: up if you got a big cut. Yeah, I mean tracheotomy. Yeah, 717 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,479 Speaker 1: I could do full surgeries. No you can't. I could 718 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: definitely stitch though, because I had a doctor on set 719 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: with me every day to make sure I was like 720 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: doing things. Oh that's cool, like quality control type stuff. Yeah, 721 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: just to make sure I wasn't like doing something completely 722 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: wrong that like nurses or doctors watching the show. No, 723 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: it's fake. Um. So she said that I was one 724 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: of the fastest people that learned how to do like sutures. 725 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: So if you ever have a cut, I would be 726 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: like you to let to all the girls that I 727 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: would think probably. So you're obviously pursuing music now, and 728 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: that takes a lot of your time almost all. I mean, 729 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: if you're on the road to it, it's that's it, right. 730 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: So it's not like there's a lot of room for 731 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: you to go. I'm gonna go to l A and 732 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: do this show. You can't. And I have had other 733 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: people that I know I want to say friends with, 734 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: but I've known and been friendly acquaintance. It's with it 735 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: or like I'm going to do both full time, Like 736 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna act. I'm not going to be a country 737 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: but it's hard to get the country music community to 738 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: buy into you if you're not into it, and so 739 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: I think Christie Mets is struggling with that a little bit. 740 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: I know she wants to be a country star, but 741 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: she's also doing this as us and she's back and forth, 742 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of why nobody is really 743 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: going we trust you as a country star. I think 744 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: I had to learn that the hard way. Like when 745 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: I first came to town, signed a record deal right 746 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: away and even my my team thought I could do 747 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: it at the same time. But within the first month 748 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: of me signing a record deal, this was back in 749 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: um I booked the show. So then I'm out seven 750 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: months a year filming and then I try to come 751 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: back and you're right, like, nobody really takes you seriously. 752 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: Um So until the show was canceled four years later. 753 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: I didn't put out any music because it just wasn't 754 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: really working. And and you're competing with people that are 755 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: doing it one of the time, like how can you 756 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: expect to compete when you're trying to or less of 757 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: the time, it's just you're not going to be at 758 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: the same level. Um. So once the show got canceled, 759 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I really really want 760 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: to do this and I really want to focus and 761 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: um haven't acted since then the credible part. And you 762 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: can do both obviously, because there are people once they've 763 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of established that their real deal like that, then 764 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: they can't. I mean, Lauren's doing Hallmark movies. McGraw obviously 765 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: has always done the acting thing. But once he firmly 766 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: planted his feed in to yeah you need to this stage, 767 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm in Like this grinding stage doesn't work. Once you 768 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: get bigger, I think you can balance the too better. 769 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: Once you have the credibility, you can do whatever you want. 770 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: And the credibility is just a success at at country 771 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: radio that you're not going to have a hit or 772 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: two and then go, you know what, I'm good, I'm 773 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: done because this format love it or hate it, and 774 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: at times I have been in both places with it, honestly, 775 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: because it's been sometimes it feels a little too archaic 776 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, this is crap. A lot of 777 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: these rules are crap um. You know. They want to 778 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: believe that you're always going to be part of the system, 779 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: even if you take a break, that you're coming back 780 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: to the system. And so. But I see you hustling 781 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: now and you're on the road all the time and 782 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: you've committed. But my point is you're a credible artist 783 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: because you're a credible musician, Like you're a mute no 784 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: names mentioned. But they'll do a show and then come 785 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: to Nashville and be like, I'm gonna be a singer 786 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: country singer too. Well, what wow? What do we know 787 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: about you? What are you talking about? And so, but 788 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: I think for you, the benefit is that you do 789 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: have a background and that this is what you do. Heck, 790 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: I would say you do this in my mind more 791 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: than you are an actress, because you've sent more of 792 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: your life actually doing this on a stage with your 793 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: family or you know, before you move down here. I 794 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: think to like the big thing that has helped with 795 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: people maybe taking me more seriously is the fact that 796 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: I play instruments. I mean that really helps when I'm 797 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: in a room and I can like massively. Yeah, talk 798 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: about like chords and all that kind of stuff. What 799 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: do you play? What could I put in front of 800 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: you and you play? Well? My main thing is violin, 801 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: so I agree. Yeah. Like, so I grew up playing 802 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: like concertos, like classical violin, um orchestras, quartets, solos, competitions, 803 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. That's crazy. So that's my 804 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: main thing. And then now I play guitar. I can 805 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: play mandolin. Mandolin's the same as violin, but down here 806 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: about the same same chord structures with your fingers. Well, 807 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: like violin, you don't do chords so much, but it's 808 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: the same string, so it's the exact same note. So 809 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty translates pretty well. Um, and I could like 810 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: get by on a piano. I used to play well, 811 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: but I'm not very good at it anymore. So you 812 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: can still play violin. Do you play fiddle? Now? I've 813 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: like fiddle at my shows, but like every every night, Um, 814 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: I bust out. I have like a sequence fiddle that 815 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: I busted up on my shows and do like a 816 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: little moment that's fun. I would be surprised if I 817 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: were watching you and then you pulled out a fiddle, 818 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: because a fiddle is such a specialists instrument, and you 819 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of fiddle players. I can name 820 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: one fiddle players maybe two that are actually also up 821 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: front singers as well. Kind of a weird like at 822 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: one point I was embarrassed by it, and then my 823 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: band leader, he's like Lizzo, busts out the flute, you 824 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: can the fiddle. So Natalie Stovall, who is now with 825 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: Runaway June, but I mean she's one of the best 826 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: singers in town before she wasn't Runaway June. I mean, 827 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: she's just that good. But I was always amazed that 828 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: she could sing and play the fiddle at the same time. 829 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: She can do really cool stuff, like she I can't 830 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: do what she can do. She'll like, yeah with the 831 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know. My body won't even 832 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: do that with nothing in my hands. What's funny about 833 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: that is so she played with my band for a 834 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: long time. We would do festivals, and so she's such 835 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: a good singer. I would just be like, all right, listen, 836 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: they came from me, but you're gonna sing and they're 837 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna realize they're here for you. So I'd let her 838 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: sing songs. But we'd played Devil went Down to Georgia, 839 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: which is an easy song for me because I don't 840 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: have to sing it. I can't sing that well. And 841 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: so we would do it and she would do the 842 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: back bend and she would get such an eruption that 843 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: one day she was like, hey, stand behind me when 844 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: I do the thing, and it'll it'll feel like erupting 845 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: for you. And I was like, hey, thanks, Natalie. So 846 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: she has the backman while playing, I'd stand behind her 847 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: and put my arms up and I was like, they're 848 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: cheering for me. But but but that that's cool that 849 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: you can play the violin a bit of the fiddle, well, 850 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the same thing, But is it? I mean, it's definitely 851 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: like I think of it like, okay, your dancer and 852 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: you're either like hip hop or you like ballet. I 853 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: would say, Eileen on the like ballet side, just because 854 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: I've that's how I like learned it. But if you 855 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: need to go hip hop, you can't. I can bring 856 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: some swag if I have to. That's pretty cool. How 857 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 1: many fiddles. Do you have? How many violins do you have? 858 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: I have three, So I have a sequence um one 859 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: I have just like my acoustic looking one, and then 860 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: I have a black electric one. Is there a left 861 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: handed violin? No, that sucks. I'm left handed. You'd have 862 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: to just I wouldn't. That's why. That's why I never 863 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: put it up. I thought for a long time. I 864 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna take up the violin next. But 865 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: I play guitar left handed. Yeah, play ball left handed? Gone? 866 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: Are you like the smear across all the back of 867 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: my hand? Yeah? Wait? Are you not left handed? Are 868 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: you know? How do you usually only lefties know about 869 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: the smear thing? I think I've just seen like people 870 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: with smears all the time. I'm like, why is your Yeah, 871 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: I saw you do the fiddle like hold the fiddle up. Yeah, 872 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: I think I think it's just always like that on 873 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: the right or on the left side. Surely we can 874 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: sue someone we're not being included. Yeah, that's true. So 875 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: you signed with Big Loud. How long ago did that happen? 876 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: I signed with them like so long ago, and I 877 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: was it was literally like Chris Lane, Morgan Wall and me. Um, 878 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: But like I said, I didn't put up. I was 879 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: like developing while I was on the show, if you will, 880 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: So they say, okay, go do your thing, we'll figure 881 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out together, but no rush to get 882 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: you out as an artist. Yeah, like we were flying up, 883 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: like we flew like Laura Belts came up twice to 884 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: write with me on the weekends. But the same thing. 885 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: It was like I would work eighteen hour days and 886 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: then try to write on the weekends, and I was 887 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: just so that it's hard to be creative after that 888 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: much work. So we just I don't know, I just 889 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: didn't really work. I learned that I read a really 890 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: interesting article because I struggle, and not as bad now 891 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: that my wife slaps me around and says, hey, stop 892 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: working all the time, because she's been a big i'd say, 893 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: the biggest influence in my life of trying to have 894 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: any sort of balance at all, because I never had it. 895 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: Wake up, work, go to bed, work, that's it, and 896 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: try to achieve whatever dumb dream I'd set out to achieve. Um, 897 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: I don't think my dreams are dumb now, I just 898 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: think there's more to it than the singularity of I 899 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: only want this and so with her has come you know, 900 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: a bit of balance and understanding that there's more to 901 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: it than just waking up and working. It sounds like 902 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that with you, or at least 903 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: it was for a while, or that's all you were doing. 904 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: And I read this article about to be extremely creative, 905 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: you've got to allow time for boredom, which I'm never 906 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: bored because if there is a time for me to 907 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: do something, I'm going to be accomplishing something. It could 908 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: be read our video guy here. I'm like, okay, I 909 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: got a free hour of my whole day. I need 910 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: you to be at my house. We're gonna shoot all 911 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: these little clips that I have in mind. But I've 912 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: now focused on, at least a little bit, letting there 913 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: be time for me to try to be bored. And 914 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: I did that last night a little bit. Caitlin went 915 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: to watch Harry Styles went to the concert. Do you 916 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: go buy any chance? I wish? So she went to 917 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: the show and I was like, you know, I'm not 918 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: planning anything. I played a little Madden, ordered some Ramen. 919 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: I just sat around, and you know what, I came 920 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: up with three funny song ideas for like my comedy show, 921 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: and I never am bored enough to like be creative. 922 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: And I would imagine with your schedule it's hard to 923 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: be creative to even right songs because you're grinding so long. 924 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: I think, like, what's your like Intagram or whatever? Eight 925 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: in one Okay, I think I'm similar. Um, what's the 926 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: is the achiever? The three? Uh? All I know is 927 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: mind is the dictator. Okay, that's who I get compared to. 928 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: It's like the dictator that takes over everything. But yes, 929 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: we'll go with your You must have like I don't 930 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: really know that system very well, but you must have 931 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: some sort of three wing in there, if I'm saying 932 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: it right. But um, I'm like you, and like my 933 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: husband is similar to Caitlin, where he'll be like we 934 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: are watching a movie and your phone is not in 935 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: this room. I getting so much trouble for the phone 936 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: to you so much and like it's so bad because 937 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: I will feel like a slight anxiety for the first 938 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. I'm like, oh, it's not here, and 939 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: then I'll go check it. Against I fell a vibrat 940 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: in your pocket, but it's not in your pocket. Yes, yeah, 941 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: me too. All the time I have some sort of 942 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: disease reading pocket disease. So and again, Mike, did you 943 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: pull up the Instagram? Yeah? What is what? What are they? 944 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: One is reformer Okay, I'm not supporter. Three is achiever 945 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: for his individual eight? Three? Then that's what it is. 946 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: The dictator? Yeah, what's a A is protector? That's not right. 947 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm the challenger. I think you're reading a wrong one. 948 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a different one. A lot of Google 949 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: searches aid his challenge. I feel like you're proving your 950 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,479 Speaker 1: like point right about it. I'm like, that's not right. Yes, 951 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: So I think mine's at eight And what's the three 952 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: on the on the good one? You're reading the achiever? Okay, 953 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: I think I'm an eight in the three. But isn't 954 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: it nice to have like somebody in your life? Like 955 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: that's probably why both of our people came into balance, 956 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: because it aren't you happier with more balance? Now I've 957 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: had to do this analytically more. Yes, I'm happier more 958 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: of the time, But sometimes I just want to work 959 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: all day. And that's okay too. I mean that's but 960 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: like to have the days where you're like I might 961 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: die twenty years earlier, if I might have died twenty 962 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: years earlier if it wasn't for her, Because again, I 963 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: have to at times, and she will go on the 964 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: road and when I'm working twenty three days in a 965 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: row and I'm traveling and I'm shooting something, or she'll 966 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: go on the road with me, and she you know, 967 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: changed a lot of her life with her job. And 968 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: but she's like, hey, listen, when we're not on the road, 969 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: we're shutting it down, not just for her but also 970 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: for me. She's like, you're going to die. And so 971 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: that's been a struggle, and it's so funny you have 972 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: the same struggle. He's in music. He's in music, and 973 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: he like if you met him, like he might be 974 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: somewhere with her. But like he I am like the 975 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: same as you, like, go go go, Like my brain 976 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: is just always firing. And Jake is like, what's that? Man? 977 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: Like just the calmest human, Like he is so chill 978 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: at all times. How did you guys meet? Songwriting a 979 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: long time ago? So he, um, do you know Rose Falcon? Okay, 980 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: so she's married to Rodney. Yeah, so Jake used to 981 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: date Rose and I wrote with Rose. Um they broke 982 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: up and we're just friends. I wrote with Rose and 983 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: she's like, hey, you should come right with this other guy, Jake, 984 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: And we wrote and he called his mom that night 985 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna marry this girl. I had 986 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: another boyfriend. So we didn't date for a long time. 987 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: But so her sex girlfriend suggested you go right the 988 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: three of us at Rodney's house and that's yeah. I 989 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: mean that's like some sister wives stuff. Then, so how 990 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 1: long did you as date before you get married? For 991 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: six years? He's music? Is he just a songwriter? Is 992 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: an artist, a roll songwriter, artist, actor? He was on Nashville, 993 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: so maybe you guys are on the same as well. Listen, 994 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: when I was on Nashville, everybody else got off the set. 995 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: I demanded it no eye contact nobody. It was all 996 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: nude scenes alone, so no one could be on set 997 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: as wild. You better got paid a lot. I only was. 998 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: I only did my scenes with Connie, and that's pretty 999 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: much it because whenever I would come in and I 1000 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: had some my first I'm gonna be honest with you, 1001 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: my first two times on the show, I was had 1002 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: like one word and I played generic people. I think 1003 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: I ended up paying four different people, or I played 1004 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: myself twice, and then I played two other random people, 1005 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: which was weird for continuity purposes because and like season one, 1006 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm like an extra that goes hey, and season two, 1007 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm a reporter who asked a question. But then I 1008 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: started to play myself because they started referencing me on 1009 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: the show, and so I would go in and have 1010 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: full dialogue and if people were watching, they were like, 1011 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: that's a reporter and also a guy be from the restaurant. 1012 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: Isn't the one word worse than like the whole sentence. 1013 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: It all kind of sucked. Yeah, I did see how 1014 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: you could say that as an actor, but for me, 1015 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: whenever I would be expected because you're just put on 1016 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: a set with everybody, and nobody cares that I don't act. 1017 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: They care that everybody's got a job to do. You 1018 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: ain't trying to be there all day. Don't screw it up. Go. 1019 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: No one's like, all right, guy who doesn't act, We're 1020 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: really gonna take care of nurse. They're like, do your job. 1021 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,919 Speaker 1: We didn't bring in if you can't do your job. 1022 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and so I did mess up the 1023 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: first time, and then I was okay this week when 1024 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: you're hey, did you did you say, like yo, I 1025 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: think I did okay on the one word one. I 1026 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: did okay on the one line ones. But when I 1027 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: had four or five sentences of dialogue back and forth, 1028 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: I think I was so tight that I think I 1029 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: set a wrong line at the wrong time because I 1030 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: was only I wasn't really listening. I was waiting for gaps, 1031 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: and then I was like, okay, let me just do 1032 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: what I do, and then it was good. It's a 1033 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: nerve racking thing because it is fast paced and like 1034 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: I did ah my like worst worst experiences that it 1035 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: wasn't my thing, but it was on Hell and Wheels, 1036 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: so there was Common was on the show antsonmount like 1037 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: it it's a Western on AMC. So I did three 1038 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: seasons of that, and there was this massive, like ensemble 1039 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: scene and it was Anson. Common had like these massive 1040 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: dialogue lines and it was all one take and there 1041 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: was one extra and he had one line, and um 1042 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: my heart broke for him, but he could not get it. 1043 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: And we would do like five minutes of dialogue and 1044 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: the camera get to him and he would just shake 1045 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: and like mess up. And I literally like people were 1046 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: getting mad because you know, cost money when you keep going, 1047 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: and it was horrendous to see, Like I felt so 1048 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: bad for him him. I don't know what happened. I 1049 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: just like, we don't know. I couldn't. You know, when 1050 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: you watch somebody like struggle and it's just you just 1051 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: put yourself in that position, you're like, Oh, I feel 1052 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: so bad for them. They must be so nervous. Does 1053 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: your husband right with you? Is there a rule? Um? No, 1054 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 1: he's just so much different, Like he's more like like 1055 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: Jason isbel or like Ryan Adams before Ryan Adams pretty 1056 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: pretty trouble Ryan now, So he's more that, like he's 1057 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: he's cooler than I am. And so when he was 1058 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: on Nashville, he was a character. He played um Claire 1059 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: Bowen's love interest for the last two Later later when 1060 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: it was on CMTY, when it was yes, yeah, I 1061 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: got it and so and then that's going, how long 1062 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: you've been married. We've been married for two years. We 1063 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: haven't had our wedding yet. We got married, yeah, so 1064 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: we got we eloped with eleven people like right in 1065 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic and we haven't had our 1066 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: wedding yet. Are you planning on it or is it 1067 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: now just a thing you can always say where we've 1068 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 1: been married two years, but we haven't had a wedding. 1069 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like you tell me. Was it the 1070 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: best day of your entire life, like all the money, 1071 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: all of the stress that goes into it, or would 1072 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: you have done a smaller thing if you did it again. 1073 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer you as honestly as I possibly can. 1074 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be as authentic as I possibly can 1075 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: in this answer to me, it was worth it because 1076 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: I had the money to spend, got it um and 1077 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: we had a massive on property here and we got 1078 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: we had We were lucky that it was in like 1079 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: that two week spot between when COVID was over and 1080 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: COVID came back again where it was like vaccines galore, 1081 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: everybody's good. We got so lucky and so I mean 1082 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: had a big on property wedding because I have a 1083 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: pretty big spot like land wise here and we built 1084 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: it all here. Sonic put up a whole Sonic here 1085 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: because we love Sonic. I mean, it was I was 1086 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: going to bring you Sonic today because I knew that, 1087 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: but I'd like probably everybody buys you actually nobody brings 1088 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: us anything. We didn't mention the songs she brought us, tacos, 1089 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: nobody brings us crown. Really, you can't go to like 1090 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,959 Speaker 1: sonbody's house is your house. So it's like I can't 1091 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: come to your house and not bring you. Yeah, but 1092 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: I think most people think they're coming to just straight 1093 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah no, so that's very kind of you. I hope 1094 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: you like tacos. Who doesn't like tacos? That's what I thought. 1095 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: But the wedding was great for us. I could absolutely 1096 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: see where if someone if it was tight, I wouldn't 1097 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: have a wedding like that. I would spend on the 1098 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 1: car or part of a down payment on a house 1099 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: or something like that. But we're lucky I had the money. 1100 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: We blew it out. I also had great friends that 1101 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: we're like, hey, what do you want for a gift? 1102 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: I was like nothing, and they were like, okay, we'll sing. 1103 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: So Dan and Jay sang our first song. Ronnie Dune 1104 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,479 Speaker 1: from Brooks had done singing the on moon um. Gary 1105 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: Levox from Rascal Flats like twenty songs. You know, he 1106 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: was just so And that was them going, hey, let 1107 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: us give you something because another we can give you, 1108 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: that's gonna be cool to you. And the weather was 1109 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: it was just it was great. So my answer is yes, 1110 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: but I don't But I don't think it's a universal yes, 1111 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: because I'm just very blessed right now to be able 1112 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: to do that. I wouldn't have done it five years 1113 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: ago the same way we did it three months ago 1114 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 1: or so, even though like the thought of maybe not 1115 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 1: having it, you know, because because it was literally my 1116 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: immediate family, his immediate family, the thought of like some 1117 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: of my friends not being there, and so I don't know, 1118 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: I gotta figure it out. Well, it's kind of something 1119 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: we've just been like, so funny that you haven't had 1120 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,439 Speaker 1: a wedding, Like that's kind of cool, honestly, Like we've 1121 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: married three two and a half years whatever, and we 1122 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: still haven't had a wedding. I know at this point 1123 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: people would be like, wait, haven't you we're coming to 1124 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 1: your wedding. Haven't you been married for like ten years? 1125 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: And then the gifts are't gonna be as good I'll be, 1126 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: because they're like, you're already married, you know, I've got 1127 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: a couple of gifts. Um. But yeah, I was like, 1128 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: oh damg, I missed that on the gifts. If you're 1129 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: filling out like a legal form and they say occupation, 1130 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: what do you write down? I say, singer, songwriter, actress, 1131 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: if it's an if it's some sort of government thing 1132 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: that's interesting, you put all of them. What do you 1133 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: put like because you have a bunch of too. Now 1134 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: I just put entertainer. I used to just put radio, 1135 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: and now if you can get questioned on some of 1136 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: that stuff, so I just put entertainer because I feel 1137 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: like it's all encompassing and I'm not lying, but you 1138 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: do it all well, Now I should think I'm going 1139 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: to put an entertainer. Don't steal, don't steal mine. I'm 1140 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: going to Um, yeah, I don't know what. So look, Mike, 1141 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 1: let's go back to the EP for a second, because 1142 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't want want to make sure we focus on 1143 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: some of this music here. Let us play Let's see 1144 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: here you have we don't have it. I can text 1145 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: it to you, but I'll have to play it from 1146 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: my phone. Uns you text it to Mike, that's gonna 1147 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 1: be a whole thing. I'll tell you what so people 1148 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: can't steal it because this is what happened. Sometimes if 1149 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 1: we play new stuff, people will cut it out and 1150 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: they'll put it on Instagram. What you should do is 1151 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: text it to Mike and he can play it through 1152 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: his phone through the microphone, and then we get to 1153 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: just and nobody steals it. Do you do? You have it? 1154 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: And so let me talk to you for a second. Yeah, 1155 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: come over here. Let me ask you a couple of 1156 00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: questions here, what is your relationship? First, we met earlier 1157 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: when you walked in, I think for the first time. 1158 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: We haven't met before. Right, We're actually on a flight 1159 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas two weeks ago. Yeah, but that wasn't 1160 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: like for a long time. That was just hello, right, Well, 1161 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: I think I just saw that you were on the flight. 1162 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: I didn't say hello because that I was going to say. 1163 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: We had a mask, you know, on a report. I 1164 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: dectly I met everybody because everyboy's in a mask. I 1165 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: never remember, would you have a mask on? I did? Ye? Yeah? 1166 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: Classic um going to I Heeart Festival. Yeah, I was 1167 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: actually going to Utah, had to go through Vegas. But 1168 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: I saw that we were on the same flight, and 1169 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. You didn't say hi. I was like, 1170 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: and so when I said how we met, and you 1171 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: said yes, that we didn't meet at all. You just 1172 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: lied might kick him out of here? So okay, so 1173 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: um introduced yourself to our listeners. And what you do. 1174 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: My name's Drew. I work at Big Loud on all 1175 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: things Mackenzie Porter. So are you and asked, okay, label, 1176 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: but you're not management management? Okay, you are a manager 1177 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: with with Seth and Boss and Greg Thompson. You are 1178 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: her day to day manager. Yes, sir, Yeah, I got it. Yeah. 1179 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,479 Speaker 1: So how's she doing? Let's be honest here. I think 1180 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: Mackenzie's next record is my favorite piece of music she's 1181 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: ever put outside. Have you ever said that though and 1182 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: lied about somebody? We just started working together. Actually, well, 1183 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: so many artists coming like this is my most personal 1184 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: ever And I'm like you said that every time? What's 1185 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: the plan in your mind for her? In? We'll go 1186 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: micro to macro a year, have another number one coming 1187 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: off of this Dustin Lynch song, which I think is 1188 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: going to be number one. I also think it will 1189 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 1: be number one, by the way, for the record that's 1190 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: Me knocking on wood. I also think Mackenzie is so 1191 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: good live that we're going to just go after we 1192 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: have a couple of really exciting to our opportunities that 1193 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if we don't say yet, Yeah, I 1194 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: don't say yet, but you're gonna see mac all over 1195 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: the world next year with some amazing artists. So she's 1196 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: good live. I think the fiddle thing, sorry, you still 1197 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: used to be at it. I think the violin thing. 1198 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,479 Speaker 1: The fiddle thing is just strong move to not talk 1199 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: about it and then bust out in people's face with it, 1200 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: because people, I would be shocked because she's playing guitar 1201 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: and you know she's a real musician, but if she 1202 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: plays the fiddle, you're just like, wait, what she's even 1203 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: It elevates her in a way that I just don't 1204 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: think people are expecting to see well. And I think 1205 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: it's the thing about Mackenzie two is she's wildly humble, 1206 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,919 Speaker 1: um like, truly a bona fide star in Canada and 1207 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: the most polite, genuine, sincere person. And it's been unbelievably 1208 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: awesome to work together. So a year year may be 1209 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: aggressive on a on a solo number one for a 1210 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: new artist, I'll be honest with you, but I think 1211 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: you have a shot to get something going there, Like 1212 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: I think I think you're that good, Thank you. I 1213 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: appreciate it, but a year may be a little agressive 1214 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: on the number one. That being said, five years give 1215 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: me that for one. Number one. No, we're talking here 1216 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: with mackenzie. What's her what's what's the going there? I 1217 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: think headlining arena isn't and and amphitheaters in the United States. 1218 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is cool about Mackenzie 1219 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,479 Speaker 1: is we're going to radio play in Germany and the UK. 1220 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: We have an insane offer to go out to Australia 1221 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: next year. Um, so I think just trying to like 1222 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: have that business translate in all these other countries as well, um, 1223 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: international country star or like Keith Urban where he has 1224 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: to kind of be pop in Australia because they don't 1225 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: want to have country music. No, I think McKenzie, I 1226 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: think you keep it real. Yeah, I just had a 1227 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: number one in Australia. He did. Okay, I'm here. Your 1228 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: managers is big things. I know you can't hear them 1229 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: right now because I've shut off there. So you believe 1230 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: in it, I know, I'm okay. So you're putting all 1231 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: your chips in all in the all in the Mackenzie business. Yeah. Well, 1232 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of you know, like what 1233 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to do is like be really good at 1234 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: zero to sixty, UM, and like just play so much 1235 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: emphasis on like what you want the project to be like, 1236 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: and like hearing these we were in the studio yesterday. 1237 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: We have two more songs coming out this year. We 1238 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: probably have you know, we know what the next one 1239 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be for next year. So it's just like 1240 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: keep pouring gas on the fire that I think you've 1241 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: done a really good job lighting. I've got a song coming. 1242 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm like super pumped about that. Um. Carrie wanted to 1243 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: cut as one of her next singles, and it was 1244 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: like a hard decision because that would be a massive 1245 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: thing for me to have a Karender would cut UM. 1246 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: But we decided to keep it for myself. Did you 1247 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: write it? Oh wow, okay that I don't understand that. 1248 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: So you wrote it. She wanted it, so I'd like 1249 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 1: to cut the song. It was going to be a 1250 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: cut for like she was cutting. I think I think 1251 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: she's cutting five for her next single. UM. And it 1252 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: was one of those and like an outside song for her. 1253 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I feel like I'm at the 1254 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,959 Speaker 1: point where right now like coming off of the dust 1255 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: and song like it's it's kind of go time, and 1256 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: if if the song is good for her, it's definitely 1257 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 1: good enough for me. So um, I just wanted to 1258 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: keep it for myself because I love it. You basically 1259 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: gave up money because you believe in yourself. Yeah, I mean, 1260 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like look at the long the long game, 1261 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: like I we me and my husband like literally drew 1262 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: a graph to like see what would be the best situation. 1263 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, if if it's a no, 1264 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm caught on her, I'd be sad because then I 1265 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: didn't get it. If it's a massive single, I would 1266 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: be kind of sad because I wish it was my 1267 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: massive single. So I just felt like the only way 1268 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: that for me that was like the best outcome was 1269 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: for me to try it. Mike, did you get the text? 1270 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: I got it. This is that song. This is a 1271 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: different song. But yeah, we wouldn't we wouldn't have the difference. 1272 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: But this I wrote about my husband, so right when 1273 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: we got married. Kind of okay, how long ago? Two 1274 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: years ago? He wrote, Well, I wrote it afterwards. I 1275 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: guess I was like maybe six months after Mike, I 1276 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: only one about thirty seconds this because we'll get sued 1277 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: by everybody here we go on a day, Oh god 1278 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: all over again, I'm a god like well out then 1279 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: what did an annoying god? Am? I? I I think we 1280 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: need to stop there. That that that's not as like 1281 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: extorted or what's the word extorted? What does that mean? 1282 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that from you. I don't 1283 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: need any extortion attempt here. Um, So yeah, that's distorted 1284 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: obviously far from a microphone. No one's gonna steal it. 1285 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: That's the good name. That's good. So that song is 1286 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 1: called what Heaven Heard Me? Heaven heard me? Oh, it's 1287 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: pretty cool, like heven't heard me? And now you're here, okay, listen, 1288 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: I've seen you look at your watch like four times. 1289 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Are you we're running late here? No? No, sure, No, 1290 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a nervous habit if I'm just being 1291 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: because you're on the air and now you're okay? Is 1292 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 1: this your first on the air? Uh? He now admits 1293 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: he's like, No, I did the show for four years. 1294 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: I've been on other podcasts, but nothing on this level. 1295 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: What are the podcasts have you been on? I was 1296 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: on don't shoot on the bus, which is a touring 1297 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: podcast because as a tour manager before a minute, don't 1298 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 1: on the bus. Don't shoot on the bus as a 1299 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: golden rule. Yeah, oh no, for sure. No number two. 1300 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: You wait till we stop at freaking Bucky's or we 1301 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: stop it at sheets or part of the country you're in. Yes. 1302 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I was also on a triathlon podcast, It's really nerdy, 1303 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: you traathlon guy amazing. Done a couple of Olympic triathlons 1304 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: because I didn't know there was sich thing as a 1305 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: sprint treathlon. I was an idiot the first time. I 1306 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: think you got an iron man in you. I do not. 1307 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't have an Olympic one in me anymore. The 1308 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: first time we turned over to him, the first time 1309 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 1: that I did a triathlon, my girlfriend at the time 1310 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm gonna do a triathlon and I 1311 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's interesting, so will I. Now. I'm 1312 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: a hard worker. I'm a mediocra athlete, but I can 1313 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 1: work myself into being a pretty good athlete, and so 1314 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: signed up. She was like, how long let me see 1315 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: your training schedule because I was working full time all 1316 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: the time, and I said, well, Okay, let's let's look 1317 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: at it. She goes, why are you training so much 1318 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: more than I am? Like, your distances is so much longer. 1319 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I signed up for She goes, no, 1320 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing a sprint. And I was like, well, what 1321 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: does that consist of? And she told me and where 1322 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I think hers was a half a mile swim, where 1323 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: mine was a one mile swim, and then hers was 1324 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: a twelve mile bike row m almost twenty five miles 1325 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and then and so I had no idea. And I 1326 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: did this triathlon and finished it and was like, dang, 1327 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: that sucked, but I could do so much better now that. 1328 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: So I did a second one, hated it again, and 1329 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: we'll never do another. But thank you, thank you for 1330 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 1: saying that there's no way I could do an iron man? 1331 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Did you feel that like in your best shape of life? 1332 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I hate exercising and I do every day, but I 1333 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: see it. Oh, I exercise every day. I have a 1334 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: trainer that comes to my house three times a week. 1335 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm running like I'm at it six days a week. 1336 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: But I hate it. Do you like the after though? Yeah? 1337 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: The other the other twenty three hours. I love myself. 1338 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: It's the one. But but I do that. You talk 1339 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: about it, you made a chart about this song with 1340 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 1: your husband. That's why I have to look at my life. 1341 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: It's like would I rather not exercise and kind of 1342 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: be like dang for twenty four hours or absolutely hate 1343 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: it for an hour and the other like good for yes, 1344 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like let's go. And so that's why 1345 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I exercise. I did a couple of traath ones. My 1346 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: best shape ever was Dancing with the Stars on that show. Yeah, 1347 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: I've heard that is like grueling, grueling, and I was 1348 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm still injured in places of my body. Was your 1349 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: body just like I hate you? I was like that 1350 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 1: to me too, other than of my body was like 1351 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: I hate you because it was as a whole experience. Um, 1352 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: but okay, look we've Mike, we've been how long has 1353 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: this been? An hour and three minutes? We've already we've 1354 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: hit an hour. We don't always hit an hour with people. 1355 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 1: But let me say this about you. I think you're 1356 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: the hardest. Your hardest step is going to be because 1357 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: you're so talented convincing people that this is the talent 1358 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 1: that you're here for, you know, But I think once 1359 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: they believe they're going to be a big believer. And 1360 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: that's what that's what the best part is, you actually 1361 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: have the goods. It's just this town, as you know, 1362 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: they're so old school. Sometimes it's just so you agree 1363 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: to right. He doesn't want to say anything. It's so 1364 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: like I drives me up the wall sometimes. But but 1365 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 1: you have every you have every every element. Congrat congratulations 1366 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: on the Dustin song. You so crazy that that went 1367 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 1: from you just singing on a dimp. But that also 1368 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: shows you can sing, like there's nothing else. That just 1369 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: shows you can sing. It's like that show now on 1370 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Fox where they have the avatar. Have you seen that 1371 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: where it's like the voice, but it's an avatar that sings. No, 1372 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: you don't know what they look like, and so they 1373 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: make an avatar looks like the dumbest show ever. But 1374 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: like real singers are winning that show because there's nothing 1375 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: else to it. And so you basically just won the 1376 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: avatar show to be on Dumstin song. Um so congratulations 1377 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: there and lit'sten. I'm looking forward to seeing what you 1378 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,959 Speaker 1: got next. What's the what's the next like radio single 1379 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: you guys are going with, like where you're pushing it 1380 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: and that's the one. Well, I think it's I think 1381 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: it's the one we cut yesterday is called pick Up. 1382 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: But you know, now that I said it on air, 1383 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: my team is gonna be like, but you don't know. Yeah, 1384 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: well you're not committed anything here. Yeah, um, I think 1385 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: it's that song, but we don't know yet. Whenever you're ready, 1386 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: you let me know. You can come up by yourself 1387 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: without dustin. I rarely do this, but here's your coupon 1388 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: to go. We want to use it. We want to 1389 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: come in and you guys come in and play and 1390 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: sing and show off. Really how good you are. I 1391 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 1: would love that, all right, I would love that. Thank 1392 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: you for being so awesome and supportive of young artists. 1393 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 1: It's very cool, well to be fair good artists, because 1394 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: some old artist I'm supportive of two. It's just the 1395 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: ones that aren't good that it's harder to be supportive of. Well, 1396 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Um, well, it's listen. It's been great, 1397 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: great to spend some time with you. Thank you for 1398 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: the tacos, thank you for coming on. Talking a little bit. 1399 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 1: He's looking at us watch a lot. I was like, 1400 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you gotta be somewhere else. It's like, so is that 1401 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: a fancy watch? See this is uh it was it 1402 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: was before I was married or had a mortgage. Uh, 1403 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 1: probab made it from that bus podcast. Now your residuals 1404 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: from that don't on the bus? Yeah, it was my days. Okay, listen, 1405 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you guys, come in. You're invited. Whenever you get that 1406 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: song and you decide you know what you wanted and 1407 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: when you want it, you're welcome to come in. You 1408 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: just let us know and come on up, you guys. 1409 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Check out drinking songs. It's seven songs. Do you still 1410 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: want me to say that? Or you like moved on 1411 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 1: from that? I personally and moved on. But like that's 1412 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: how I'll always feel. I'll put out a song tomorrow 1413 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: and like the next day I'll be like, but what 1414 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: about this new one? On Instagram Mackenzie P Music. But 1415 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: I caution you that if you follow her, she's going 1416 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: to think you're gonna reach out and try to cut 1417 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: a song with her, every single one of you out there, 1418 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: Mackenzie P Music. Um, okay, I think we've done our 1419 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 1: job here. Thank you, Thank you for the tacos. Great job. 1420 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: And Mike, anything from you okay. That is it. We'll 1421 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: see you next day. This genius is given