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Speaker 2: give you about twelve to fifteen minutes on the Rams Niners,

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Speaker 3: You know why not.

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Speaker 2: So the Rams beat the forty nine ers twelve to six.

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Speaker 2: So the first thing is I did I stayed away

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Speaker 2: from this game. I wouldn't touch it. I could have

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Speaker 2: done a DraftKings bet, I said, I there's too many injuries, weather,

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Speaker 2: it's shaky, and the Rams just played a flawless football

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Speaker 2: game against Buffalo. Then you got to get on a

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Speaker 2: plane Wednesday, flight to arrival division game like added no what?

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Speaker 2: I just I knew the Rams were gonna be off.

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Speaker 2: You cannot play a game against a team like Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: a high stakes game and be flawless, even with men.

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Speaker 2: This isn't college. But to go on the road against

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Speaker 2: your rival Green Laws back Bosa played. So they won

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Speaker 2: and you have to be healthy. But they won and

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Speaker 2: you have to be happy. But here's the thing. So

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Speaker 2: all these wide receivers, do you know Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 2: and Deebo Samuel's record this year seventeen and twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Top five rushing teams are all right now in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: you gotta be careful with DIVA wide receivers. Deebo wants

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Speaker 2: the ball. Oh Debo can't catch the ball tonight on

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Speaker 2: an underneath route where he had a chance to peel

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Speaker 2: off a huge play, potentially a touchdown, and they settled

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Speaker 2: for a field goal. You could clearly see the Niners

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Speaker 2: trying to appease Debo and get in the ball and

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Speaker 2: force it. I like him better as a running back

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Speaker 2: then a receiver anyway. I think his yards after the

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Speaker 2: up poor man's and Kwon Bolden that you know doesn't separate.

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Speaker 2: But he's physically tough and a nice player. But this

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Speaker 2: is so you have young brock Purdy, you know, doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to lose Debo. Ayyuk's already out for the year.

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey hurt. So Deebo picks the worst

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Speaker 2: pretty's young. He doesn't have Ayyuk. You know, Kittle is tremendous,

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Speaker 2: forced a debo and this is what you get. Biggest

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Speaker 2: game of the year for the Niners, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety seven total yards. You know it, brock pretty in

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Speaker 2: thirteen starts. Everybody talks about him getting paid big money.

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Speaker 2: It's a big mistake. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 3: I never have.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have Christian McCaffrey, doesn't have Trent Williams in thirteen

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Speaker 3: He is a guy.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get passed by everybody in this draft. You know,

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Speaker 2: during Tom Brady's run, there were more sleepers. You find

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Speaker 2: occasional sleepers, but scouting departments now are much more sophisticated.

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Speaker 2: You know, in Brady's era, you didn't have all the

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Speaker 2: Purty dropped to the seventh round. He's small, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: And conversely, tonight, Matt Stafford very very rough first half.

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Speaker 2: Big third down throw to Colby Parkinson late whereas pretty

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Speaker 2: And you know, people, people think I'm anti Purty no,

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Speaker 2: after a second surgery here is going to be even

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Speaker 2: holds the Cowboys back. They're paying a B quarterback A

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Speaker 2: plus money. If you pay Pretty A minus money, he's

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Speaker 2: They're going to pay him B quarterback money. Darnold could

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Speaker 2: Both Ayuk and Deebo are now pretty verbal. Don't neither

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Speaker 3: So is the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Offensive line has gotten healthier over the last month. Stafford's

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Speaker 2: Now they're getting their tight end back to go along

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Speaker 2: They're defense, they're a little like the Packers. They feel

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Speaker 2: still need a number one corner in the draft. But

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Speaker 2: this is a real RAMS team, and I think they

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Speaker 2: solidified their playoffs tonight. It's a quarterback coach league, and

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Speaker 2: nothing against Shanahan, but he's got pretty and Stafford and

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Speaker 2: and I talks in Belichick, but I didn't have this information.

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Speaker 2: So I made the prediction today on FS one. I said,

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Speaker 2: Belichick is going to get irritated. His coaching and his

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Speaker 2: But it comes out tonight. Belichick steal has a buyout

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Speaker 2: June first this year. Now, he's not going to duh

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Speaker 2: and nobody hires a coach after June first, obviously, But

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Speaker 2: I think the openings this year too many impulsive odd

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Speaker 2: ownership executive areas Jets, Bears, Jacksonville. But Belichick say it again.

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Speaker 2: I said it on the air today. I think he'll

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Speaker 2: stay one year in Bolt his contract. He could bolt

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Speaker 2: my prediction he'll leave after one year. And Bill parcell'shwist

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Speaker 2: Bill's a coach. Sean Payton stayed for a year, loved it.

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Speaker 2: left Bill Belichick's coach, and I do think he'll I mean,

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Speaker 2: I saw and talked at length today about the schedule

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Speaker 3: The a SEC is so bad. I mean it's he.

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Speaker 2: Gets Clemson at home. There's not another game that he

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Speaker 2: be in the contract, Bill Belichick demanded that it was

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Speaker 3: So this is not.

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Speaker 2: A very highly coveted job because the push and pull

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Speaker 2: Once you pay your star quarterback. Kansas City has offensive

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Speaker 2: They can't afford to, So I just I think it

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Speaker 2: really that's why coaching and quarterback play john is so

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Speaker 2: could be hit and miss. Wellan O'Connell's taking the reckless

430
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: out and elevated. You know, he's made it very intentional.

431
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: Sam goes back to pass, you get a very intentional play.

432
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: And if he has to add lib, which he did today,

433
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Speaker 2: he's fantastic. He not Lamar or Josh, but he is

434
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: way high end in this league.

435
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Speaker 5: He is.

436
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: He is in the Justin Herbert class.

437
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna move and I'm gonna crank it, and

438
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: I never thought this. He's had one stinker all year.

439
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: He had three, a couple of picks against the Jags.

440
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: They won that game. Remember that game down in Jacksonville.

441
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: They were terrible in the red zone, So his stinker

442
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: they won. They could still be a number one seed.

443
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: I think I'm sitting here thinking today, do you let

444
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Speaker 2: him walk out of the building.

445
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Speaker 1: I think at minimum, right now he's in the category

446
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do the long term you

447
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: gotta franchise him right now. The problem with franchising it's

448
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: forty one million dollars for a quarterback, and unlike these contracts,

449
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: you don't get to push any of that off on

450
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know years in the future. He has

451
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight touchdowns right now, Colin, they have four games left.

452
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: He has twenty eight touchdowns and they were eleven and two.

453
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Speaker 1: The one player you're we're alluding to when he scrambled around,

454
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: he kind of did three sixty, went across, threw it

455
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Speaker 1: to Jefferson across his body. I got that looked like

456
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, and that was a play today. If

457
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Speaker 1: you are the GM and the head coach, you go.

458
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: This is exactly why we said Kirk Cousins were not

459
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: in the market for you anymore because you don't one

460
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: you've never had that in the bag. But the version

461
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: that we're seeing out of Cousins, Cousins just got one

462
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars guaranteed. He hasn't thrown a touchdown in

463
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: four weeks, and he's throwing picks just by the you know,

464
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: multiple picks every game. I mean, he might be cooked.

465
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Speaker 1: Like you saw today was a pivot point. One guy's

466
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: career feels like it's kind of headed toward the drain,

467
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: like is he even gonna be starting next week? And

468
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: the other guy is exploding. And he used rich Gannon

469
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: as your example. Rich Gannon did not have this level arm.

470
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Speaker 1: Rich Gannon did not. That was the knock on rich

471
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Speaker 1: While a lot of people back in the day were like,

472
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, it was hard for Gruden to sell Al

473
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: Davis on Rich because he liked those big arm quarterbacks

474
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: and that wasn't Rich, but Rich was really accurate. Sam

475
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Darnold sixty eight percent this season, Colin, Now listen, he's

476
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna turn the ball over a little bit. He's got

477
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: ten bucks, probably end up with thirteen and fourteen. How

478
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: often do you watch him and you see him explode

479
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Well, now that they're left

480
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: tackles injured, the best two players on the vikings are

481
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: the two White House. So those guys are thriving under Sam.

482
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Speaker 1: How could you I've said before Today is a great example.

483
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: He threw five touchdowns against a team with a lot

484
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Speaker 1: of good defensive secondary pieces. Yeah, in your wildest dreams,

485
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: you would desire JJ to become this player one day,

486
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: to be that good. What we witnessed today, and the

487
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: chances based on the history of we all watching the

488
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: NFL and knowing how hard this league is, it's less

489
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Speaker 1: than fifty percent. He's ever that good. Well, Sam currently

490
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: is this good and now has this I would say,

491
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, resume of life in the league of building

492
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: on callouses going through adversity, being very confident in himself,

493
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: but having humility to know how hard it is. Like

494
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: he's seen it all. He has seen the worst of

495
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: the worst. And then with Kyle and now Kevin O'Connell,

496
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Speaker 1: I understand that they drafted a quarterback, but sometimes things change. Yeah,

497
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean the forty nine ers drafted Trey Lance and

498
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: they pivoted in the blink of an eye to Purt. Yeah,

499
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just that's isn't that part you started

500
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: the volume like pivot fast? Right? I mean, you know

501
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, So what he's gonna cost you a lot

502
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: of money if he's a top five or six quarterback

503
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: in the NFC. I mean this, Well, how many NFC

504
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are better than him? He's better than Jalen Hurts

505
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: right now.

506
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield had a

507
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: good quarter today, but was awful for long stretches in

508
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: the game, awful.

509
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 3: Genos Smith returnovers. Yeah, Baker was awful.

510
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: And that by the way, And I've tried to be

511
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: very positive with Baker because I was so rough on

512
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: him early. But he can be really reckless and he

513
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: you can't coach that out of him. He's just a

514
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: different personality. He literally lives for chip on his shoulder.

515
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: Sam doesn't have that. Sam's not trying to prove anything

516
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: other than I'm good. Sam's like a beach boy. He's

517
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: having a good time. He's an ocean side, you know,

518
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: linebacker basketball, He's an athlete. He's a great kid. Baker's

519
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: got that chip a mile along. Baker's battled his own

520
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: family at times. It's part of his great fabric and

521
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: his story. I love, but Geno Smith, there's limitations. Baker

522
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: is reckless. Donald, You're getting a higher upside with I mean,

523
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: I always thought Baker was a better pure pocket passer.

524
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: This year, I'm not sure. And some of it's justin Jefferson,

525
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: But it's not like Mike Evans and Chris Godwhen and

526
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: the guys down there are bad either. I just think

527
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: letting him walk out the door, what if he goes

528
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: to an NFC team?

529
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: To me, though, you know, use Baker as a good example.

530
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Aren't we all all a little bit of product of

531
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Speaker 1: our past? I mean, Baker was a walk on at

532
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: Texas Tech at six feet fall. Yeah, Sam Donald six

533
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: foot four at USC you know, in the in the

534
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: most turmoil time in the history of the program leads

535
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: him to eleven plus wins. I mean, in the ugliness

536
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: of the mid twenty tens, he's a strapping, big arm

537
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: like he's a confidence.

538
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: He won a Rose Bowl against a good Penn State

539
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: team with a really bad college football coach and no

540
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: pros around him. I mean, you go back to that

541
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: year and it was hero ball, that's all it was.

542
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm pro Baker, and he's really matured and he's become

543
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: a good player. But the skill set of the two,

544
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Sam is the more dynamic player. Yeah, looking back, like

545
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: if you did a redraft, yeah, I think both of

546
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: them probably aren't going one to three, but clearly they've

547
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: lived up to like they're going to play in the

548
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: league for a long time. Sam's high end is higher

549
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: than Baker because his mobility bigger, and I just think

550
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear you watch Sam, He's got an explosive

551
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: arm and on the move he can really sling it.

552
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: And that's the playmaking Minnesota what limited in the last

553
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: limited that team the last couple of years. You know,

554
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: Cousins was a stagnant can't move if you throw them

555
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: off the spot. Sales on face got ad lib. No problem.

556
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Let's rip all right, let's talk college football. The twelve

557
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: team playoff has come out. Listen, let's get the one

558
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: thing out of the way. I think Bama's better than SMU,

559
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: but BAMA doesn't have an argument. I watched them get

560
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: completely shelled against a Oklahoma team that was two and

561
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: six in conference with like a minus seventy nine point

562
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: differential in conference. Oklahoma was a bad team and they

563
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: got I mean literally agree over run by them. So

564
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem again that regular season has

565
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: to mean something. Yes, Bama's beaten more good teams. If

566
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: BAMA got in, I wouldn't lose any sleep if SMU

567
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: did not. But I felt the same way both ways.

568
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I would have taken probably a Bama, but SMU after

569
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: a really hard fought.

570
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: Loss kind of felt like the move.

571
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: And I also think, listen, Bama's not consistent enough to

572
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: be a national champion. SMU is not going to be

573
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: a Nashtional champion. SMU may be a better story, it's

574
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: better for the sport big picture. I don't think anybody

575
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: on the heels of Alabama's you know, fifteen year dynasty

576
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: is losing sleep because they don't get in.

577
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but if I was part of the SEC,

578
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: here's what I would say. College football, I mean, based

579
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: on the numbers, has never been more popular, like more

580
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: people consistently have never watched more and the SEC ratings

581
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: have been insane. So we are carrying the popularity of

582
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: this sport as a conference and have carried the sport

583
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: really for a long time now. And we only get

584
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: three teams in. That's where you can just see them,

585
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: even if it is justified as it is in this situation,

586
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: all these teams Ole Miss lost to Kentucky. If any

587
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: of these SEC teams is ten and two, they are

588
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: easily in over SMU. We all agree, but like we

589
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: want guarantees. And this is where I think college football

590
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: is going to go. If if I'm the Big ten

591
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: who like the SEC is carrying college football with the ratings,

592
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: the ACC is simply not like I want to know,

593
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: because getting into the playoffs is very financial viable for

594
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the conference. Right. That's the same thing with the NCAA tournament,

595
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: and now we only get we only get one difference,

596
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: like the difference of us in the SEC is and

597
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: the ACC is one team that seems crazy. I watch

598
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: an unhealthy amount of college football. The gap between the

599
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: two conferences huge. It's Grand Canyon wide. So even if

600
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: you could justify it records and everything, that's a big

601
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: picture problem for me. If i'm Greg Sank, yeah, we

602
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: need some assurances. And this is where like the NFL,

603
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, what do tiebreakers go conference record? It's impossible

604
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: to do tiebreakers and everything in college football because the

605
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: SEC goes my eight and four? What is that worth

606
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: in the in the ACC? And I ten and two

607
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: in the ACC? Like by Big twelve. Arizona State's an

608
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: incredible story. What would their record be if I put

609
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: them playing LSU, Bama, Ole, Miss Arkansas? You know, So

610
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: it's it's not apples d apples at all.

611
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: That's right, And that's the hard part.

612
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: I think we all agree on that, even if we go, yeah,

613
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: SMU deserves it, but it's like it's a little out

614
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: of whack. Now it's first year. I'm not going to

615
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: complain that much. I don't feel that bad. And I

616
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: think the committee wanted Alabama because I do think Alabama.

617
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: The needle moves a little more when you got Alabama playing,

618
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: because who's SMU is playing Penn State, Like, yeah, Alabama,

619
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: Penn State just a matter television product, is it?

620
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

621
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: So here's the one that really cracked me up. So

622
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: the regular season. The committee said, the regular season matters.

623
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Speaker 2: We're not going to give Bama three losses, two of

624
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: which are Mulligan's, Vandy and Oklahoma. But yet in Oregon

625
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: has the most impressive regular season and arguably the most

626
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: impressive championship game performance. George is up there as well.

627
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: They get the winner of the Tennessee Ohio State game,

628
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: which is a team capable of winning the national championship,

629
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: then they could face Texas than Georgia. How did Penn

630
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: State get.

631
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: An easier round out?

632
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: They lost at home to Ohio State and got hammered

633
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: by Oregon. I think they have now they play another game.

634
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 2: I think they have a much easier route than Oregon.

635
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: I thought Oregon kind of got hosed.

636
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah to me, them copying the basketball bracket where you're

637
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: forced to play team instead of the NFL bracket where

638
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: you receed by the round. Yes, yeah to me, you

639
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: gotta change football wise, receed by the rest. Yes, yes,

640
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: because Oregon has the only undefeated team. Clearly, if you

641
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: just watched the best team currently in the second best

642
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: conference and they get stuck with Ohio State Tennessee. That

643
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: seems pretty outrageous, I thought, because if they could pick

644
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Speaker 1: the opponents, I think there's a decent chance that Ohio

645
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: State would be the last opponent they would want to play. Yeah,

646
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe Notre Dame. Second Tennessee would be high up there too,

647
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: like the SMUs the Clemsons. You gotta reced Now, this

648
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: is where I'm not going to freak out year one.

649
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: You got to figure it out. But you cannot keep this.

650
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: How can Boise and ASU potentially get your opponents than Oregon?

651
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Penn State.

652
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: They would say Oregon's gonna play the Rose Bowl, like

653
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: that's where their game is going to be. I think, yeah,

654
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: like their home game, so that you know, it's kind

655
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: of regionality. But plan Ohio State potentially, that's that's pretty difficult.

656
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ohio State will fill half that stadium. I mean,

657
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Penn State gets SMU and Boise State, I mean potentially,

658
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: it's like Jesus, they the biggest game of the year

659
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: at home, they lost to Ohio State, and I mean

660
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: they they they got pushed around me. They they could

661
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: not stop Oregon. I just thought Penn State and I

662
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: understand punishing. If you flip Penn State in Ohio State

663
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: in the playoff, i'd be I think it's it's more

664
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: fair now Ohio State Again. The Michigan loss was not

665
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: only bad, not only at home, but it made you

666
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: question the entire program. Like when when when Penn State

667
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: lost to Ohio State, you didn't question the program. You're like, well,

668
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State's better that that that Michigan. I mean, listen,

669
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: if you want to ask yourself who she who's getting punished,

670
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: it's Ohio State. I think Tennessee is the sleeper national

671
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: championship picking this thing I was.

672
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: I thought Herbstree had a good point during the show

673
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: when they released the bracket of you know, Ohio State

674
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: maybe would rather go on the road because a couple

675
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: early three and outs, maybe you're down seven to nothing,

676
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: ten to nothing, that place will turn on your fast

677
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: because that group's edgy, that group's already pissed off. Yeah,

678
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: in a weird way at ten and two, hosting a

679
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: playoff game is a major disappointment. Yeah, you know, watching

680
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: that game last night, I thought it was so insane

681
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: that Clemson is now in the playoffs and Miami's just

682
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: long gone, even though all season Miami it was like

683
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: a top five or sixteen, and then Penn State. By

684
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: takeaway with Penn State, Oregon's tough, and that's their skill

685
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: group is better top to bottom. I think Penn State

686
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: has their front seven full NFL guys, the best tight

687
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: end in the country. They have a one to two

688
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: running back combination. Quarterback a little all over the map,

689
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: but he is extremely talented. And you saw a couple

690
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: of passes where you went, well, yep, that's a top

691
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: ten pick, and then you saw a couple other passes

692
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: You're like, that's a sixth rounder. But you never really

693
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get with them. But they have

694
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on their team. Like to me,

695
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: if the quarterback has a B plus a minus game,

696
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: they could play with most anyone in this in this tournament.

697
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Tennessee. Their defensive line is really good. Yeah,

698
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: what's Ohio State's problem right now? Well, if they're offensive,

699
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: they's had a guy tearing achilles they missing. That can

700
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: be a rough I'm telling you that place could start

701
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: booing if it's like nothing in the second quarter.

702
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: The weather forecast for this weekend in Columbus is forty

703
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: degrees and what it's not playing to a finesse down

704
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: the field team, so Will Howard, who's been hot and

705
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: cold in big games. It's forty degrees, the pressure's on.

706
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: You'll be favored and Tennessee d line and Ohio State online.

707
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: If you're forced to run the ball against Tennessee that's

708
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: got a seventeen thirteen field to it. That's not gonna

709
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: be a high scoring game, in my opinion.

710
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: One thing that's gonna be. You know, for the most part,

711
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: in college you get a couple and you hammered this

712
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: home when they went. When the West Coast teams got

713
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, there aren't as many cold weather

714
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: games as you think. In the NFL there are, why

715
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: they play all through December through January. College football usually

716
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: ends home games the last week in November, November warm

717
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: weather Bowls.

718
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: That's right.

719
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: That's where this changed, because they don't. They're they're playing

720
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: in two weeks, right, and it's Friday night, Saturday Night

721
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: at South Bend and at Ohio State, which makes sense.

722
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: I mean, two of the biggest brands Ito's gonna get

723
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: huge ratings. Plus the NFL plays Saturday, so it gets

724
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: a little loss in the shuffle. You know, like Texas.

725
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: The Texas game and the Penn State game are going

726
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: up against like Raven Steelers, so you know, but those

727
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: two night games are gonna be by themselves. It could

728
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: be really cold. Yeah, I mean it's so it's and

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: a half one thing with playoff football, even with the

730
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: best teams, it's usually not thirty five to thirty scores, right,

731
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: It's usually lower scoring. Can't you can't feel your hands?

732
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean you could have a game in two weeks

733
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: at Ohio State with it. Couldn't it be twenty seven

734
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: degrees or Notre Dame? It could be freezing cold?

735
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: All right.

736
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't get him maybe every six weeks. Love to

737
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: have him more, Nick Wright. So let me throw this

738
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: at you. This is not a baseball topic. We don't

739
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: talk a lot about it, but it's fascinating to me.

740
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: So I'm agnostic on many things. I'm kind of an

741
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: agnostic personality, from religion to almost anything. I tend to

742
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: be just sort of I weigh information and I pick

743
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: the side I like. I don't have a lot of

744
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: purity in me right, Like, I don't have a lot

745
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: of loyalty outside of my wife and my children and friends.

746
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: But so baseball comes out with this golden it bat

747
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: concept where basically you could Bryce Harper gets an extra

748
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: at bat every game, or an Aaron Judge. You don't

749
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: have to use it, but you can in a critical situation.

750
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: And purists are bothered by this, And I'm fascinated by

751
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: what purists are holding on to. And I've heard baseball

752
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: people say, oh, I'll never watch another baseball game as

753
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: if Sandy Coofax's historic run is diluted by a new

754
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: golden bat. At that concept in twenty twenty four, it's

755
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: it's almost like saying it's not perfectly analogous, but gay

756
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: marriage ruins the sanctity of previous marriage.

757
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Well, if you had a great marriage for forty years,

758
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: what does it have toen. But also I will also say,

759
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: anybody that like, we've all come to terms with the

760
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: guy that most people feel like probably correctly is the

761
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: greatest baseball player ever played at a time when a

762
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: lot of the greatest baseball players ever were not allowed

763
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: to be in the league because they were black or Hispanic,

764
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: and it's just like, hey, we know that's part of

765
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: the record, right, we know, like there's people have an ability.

766
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 3: Nobody with a brain looks back and it's like, hey,

767
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: I checked Terry Bradshaw's stats. Dude, sucks. It's like no,

768
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: it's like I know that's what the record, but like

769
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: those what the numbers are. But we all understand intuitively, oh,

770
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: that was a different era. So if we were to

771
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: have a golden at bat era and it's like, holy shit,

772
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: a lot of three home run games out of nowhere,

773
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: it's like, oh yeah, because they change the rules. People

774
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: are smarter than we give them. But that's what I'm asking.

775
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: We had the cattle steroid era, so all the records

776
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: are in power, records are meaning, and nobody really knows

777
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: who took it. I mean seriously, it's like trying to

778
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: figure out which rich people cheated on their taxes.

779
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: How about we start with all of them?

780
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: Right? Like, who knows? So my take is what are

781
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: purests holding onto? Are these forty eight year old men

782
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: who still collect baseball cards?

783
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Like the idea?

784
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: So the sport makes two changes both crush, defensive shift,

785
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: eliminate rush, and at pitchclock. Okay, so so all of

786
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, the defensive shift more base hips, Well, that's

787
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: messing with the previous six eight years.

788
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 3: Right, And the thing closest to the golden at bad

789
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: is the ghost runner ghost runner thing, which you know

790
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: in made baseball cooler for the regular season. You don't

791
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: want to put in the playoffs, that's fine.

792
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: So what are purest holding onto that are outraged by

793
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: a new concept? Well, I don't understand peris.

794
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm not the the I mean I understand them, I

795
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: don't agree with them because ultimately, what my one of

796
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: my fundamental beliefs that bothers I think purists, But it's

797
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: not even a belief, it's just a fact. Sports are

798
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: simply entertainment products. That's all it is. We are part

799
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: of the entertainment industry. We are in We are fighting

800
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: for attention and relevance in sports. And there is nothing

801
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: inherently more valuable, moral, ethical important to American professional football

802
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: than American Ultimate frisbee. But one is the most valuable

803
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: television property in the world, and the other is something

804
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 3: the best in the world at almost assuredly needs a

805
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 3: real job because it doesn't pay the bills. So why

806
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: is that? Because people like watching one and don't care

807
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 3: about the other. That's exclusively why, there is no other reason.

808
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: And the idea that you have a birthright to people's attention,

809
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: go ask course, racing, go ask box. You don't and

810
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: so all of these. So here's the real reason I

811
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: love the Golden A bad idea. I like baseball, I

812
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: love basketball, and I'm worried about basketball. I am legitimately

813
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: worried about the NBA because they have two massive issues

814
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: that everyone knows is a problem, and I don't know

815
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: that they have the stomach a dress for the change

816
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: that's needed. One is one that's been talked about a

817
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: ton historically, which is the load management, superstars not playing

818
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 3: whatever it is. I will give a quick anecdote on

819
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: why that's my thoughts on that, then I'll get to

820
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: the real thing. I was in LA for seventy two

821
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: hours over Thanksgiving because our son lives there and he couldn't.

822
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 3: We brought thanks even to him, essentially that Friday night

823
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: Lakers thunder, and I'm like, you know what, My wife's

824
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: grandparents are with us. They're ninety one and ninety three.

825
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: They love Lebron, had never seen him play, and I'm like,

826
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, what's the point of making money if you

827
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: don't spend it on stuff like this. So I bought

828
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: six tickets, not courtside, but first road behind courtside. Not cheap, right,

829
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: But what I was like, it's a I bought him

830
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 3: at noon with full confidence. Well, Lebron's gonna play because

831
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Lebron plays, you know what I mean, Like Lebron did

832
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: he get hurt last night? Then he's playing like even

833
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: though he's the oldest guy in the league. And if

834
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: it were any other superstar, I would have when my

835
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: wife mentioned to me, should we do it? I would

836
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: have said, yes, But let's wait until like five o'clock

837
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: to find out. That's terrible for the business. The other

838
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: thing that is getting a lot of attention is the

839
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: NBA's at its core. The NBA's popularity is based on

840
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: is that dude flying Holy shit? Liked not here's another

841
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: thirty five footer And strategically, just like the shift, strategically

842
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: was smart, but from a television product, it was a disaster.

843
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Everybody looks the same every game, every possessions.

844
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: This game looks the same. There's no different styles, there's

845
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: no anything, And we're minimizing athleticism. John Moriant goes on

846
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 3: the record is like, I'm done dunking Anthony Everwards. Taking

847
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: thirteen three is a game, It's awful, clearly a disaster,

848
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: a disaster. And so when I say massive changes, what

849
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean is have a real conversation about hey, dunks

850
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: are also worth three now? Or this does this?

851
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: Two suggestions one and I said this seven years ago

852
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: on the air and had a graphic take out the

853
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: corner three it impossible to defend.

854
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: Yes, okay that that agree? That should be done tomorrow.

855
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: So it goes right into the bench, you put it,

856
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: you move it out of about six inches, make it

857
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: a real arc, make it a real arc. And so

858
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: that's just much easier to defend it. You can be

859
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: on players or this would be my This is something

860
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: I've thought about as well, and I don't know. I

861
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: think you could do this is that you get fifteen

862
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: a game.

863
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: That's what I said, Oh, yes, exactly right, whatever the

864
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: number is. That's the other thing I was, fifteen points

865
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: of your offense. Your offense. Yeah, and by the way,

866
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: you can still shoot them after that, but they're worth two.

867
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: There's Kurt Goldsberry had the idea years ago that I

868
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: thought was fascinating, which was, you know how baseball stadiums,

869
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: everyone picks their own dimensions. You got a green monster,

870
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: you got a short portray, Yankee Stadium, Royal Stadium as cavernous.

871
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: Kurt Goldsberry says, each year, every team draws their three

872
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: point line, and if you like, no and the I

873
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: and I know that sounds ridiculous, but his point was

874
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: some teams will be like, we don't have one. Well,

875
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: that's not who we are. We're building a old school

876
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: beat you up. You know what I mean, big, big

877
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: man style. The the Blazers when they had prime Dame

878
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: Lillard might have been like, ours is from thirty seven

879
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: feet out because we have the one guy who can.

880
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: And if that were the case, you would have you

881
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: would know, man, I'd better be able to play a

882
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: bunch of different ways, score a bunch of different ways,

883
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: because shit tonight we're in Oklahoma City and there's no

884
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 3: threes whatever. So I don't know the exact right answer.

885
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: What I know is this, if the NBA dies does

886
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 3: not make a massive change, it is in huge bubbles

887
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: because they have they have still they're still suckling off

888
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: the teat of Lebron Steph kd your most.

889
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: John Edwards, do not dunk the one of the sets.

890
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 3: I mean the Jordan logo.

891
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: If you really think of even Doctor Jay's highlights today,

892
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: Connie Hopkins when I was a kid, the car doing.

893
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: Of it's and the here was another question, man.

894
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Oh, let me tell this at you this. I said

895
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: this about the NFL. I said, can you I mentione

896
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: if the NFL only allowed the tush push and bombs,

897
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: there's no intermediates, no bubble screens, It's just power running

898
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: or bombs. That's the NBA. It's not as appealing.

899
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: By and by the way, the NFL one year into

900
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: the tush push, it was like we're looking into bandness

901
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: And it wasn't because of safety. It was because that's

902
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: terrible TV. That's bad for our product. It's not exciting,

903
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: it's ugly, and ultimately we're a TV show. And so

904
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know the answer, but I do

905
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: know that continuing down this path is disastrous.

906
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: So I.

907
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: Would love it if baseball did something drastic, because then

908
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: I think there is the NBA would look at itself

909
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: hopefully and be like, well, the NFL. Every year it's

910
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: like hey, rule change, figured out hip drop tackle. I'd

911
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: never heard that term three years ago. Last year it

912
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 3: was the most dangerous things ever happened in the sport.

913
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: This year it's gone like defenseless receiver to hit the

914
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: quarterback low Tom Brady. Tom Brady blows out his knee.

915
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: They're like, massive rule change. You now no longer hit

916
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: the quarterback low. Doesn't matter. Aaron Rodgers breaks his collar bone.

917
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, you can't fall on quarterbacks now either.

918
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: Don't care if you don't like it. Baseball's making changes.

919
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: The NBA is just like, can we interest you in

920
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 3: a new All Star game format? And it's like, bro,

921
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: that's not the issue here. And here's one other NBA question.

922
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: I didn't I forgot who first posed this, but every

923
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: since I read it, I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Is

924
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 3: there a single NBA player under thirty that is more

925
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: famous than Caitlin Clark?

926
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's not.

927
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: There's not. That's a problem.

928
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something that's fascinating. Here's something I talked.

929
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: I led my show with us today and unfortunately, I'm

930
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: sure you probably didn't have time for it. You used

931
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: to listen religiously but those days are over. But the

932
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: point being, no, that's just not so I led with

933
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: this today, Deebo Samuel brought pretty comes out yeah and says,

934
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: you know, I love Debo and we'll get him the

935
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 2: ball more. And I thought, oh, okay, So a year ago,

936
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: nine months ago, running backs are dead in this league.

937
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: The top five running teams now in the league are

938
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: all playoff teams. The top six receivers receiving yards, six

939
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: of the top ten round losing teams. And so it's

940
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 2: it's Davante Adams, cryptic messages, Jamar Chase is noisy, it's

941
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: elite neighbors, it's Deebo Samuel, it's Deontay Johnson, it's George Pickens.

942
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: So it's even Aj Brown, by the way, on a

943
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: good team. Everything was fine, and then he's like, I'm pissed.

944
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: I said, it's not fine.

945
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: I said, we gave receivers for about two years the

946
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: keys to the kingdom, but they are sports cars. They

947
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: don't work well in the winner. You can't really drive

948
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: him seven days a week. And running backs this is

949
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: you've you've loved this take and running backs no, no, no,

950
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: they're the SUV year round groceries, ocer practice date all weather.

951
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Actually always elevate the quarterback, always young quarterback, old quarterback.

952
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: They're also great. They help you take leads and eat

953
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: the clock and help you protect them. The receivers, don't

954
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: they all block or they don't play. They're the grinders,

955
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: they're the most running back Sakwon Barkley, I want the

956
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: ball more, but I'm sacrificing for the team. They never

957
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: You never hear a running back complaining we're throwing it

958
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: too much to the star receiver. And it's a classic

959
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: example is that we gave it's the NBA position of NFL.

960
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: Wide receiver breaks the huddle first, he's on his own.

961
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: We gave you the keys for like two years. We

962
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: immediately had a wide receiver. Bubble Chiefs win without Tyreek Hill.

963
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: You can argue they can spend money on defense. They're

964
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: just a much better team now, more complete team. And

965
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: in the end, it goes back nine months ago we

966
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: lamented the future of running backs. It is now in

967
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: one season, Baltimore, Detroit, Green Bay, Washington. Here comes Isaiah Pacheco,

968
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: the Rams, Kiren Wims. It is a running back quarterback league.

969
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Again in nine months.

970
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: So so that was and I didn't see it coming

971
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: this quickly or die. But what I did wonder was,

972
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, one of the things that happened

973
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: to running backs was yes, the game changed, but the

974
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: other it wasn't just that the game changed. It wasn't

975
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: just your position isn't as valuable. It was there's too

976
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 3: many B minuses, meaning like there you could seemingly find

977
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: a not great, but a good running back anywhere, practice squad,

978
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: seventh round, undrafted free agent like. And the reason for

979
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: that was very obvious, which is our whole lives. The

980
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: best athlete at seven years old where they put him

981
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: running back like if it wasn't the quarter like it

982
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you're the best player on the team.

983
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna if we're if you're either gonna be a

984
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback or the running back, because we're gonna

985
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 3: hand you the ball a bunch. So in high school

986
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: and college, there were just too many good ones, which

987
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: means seems like, okay, I could pay X for a

988
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: great one or basically nothing for a good one, so

989
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: I'll do that. And what I wondered aloud was are

990
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: we about to see in a few years the same

991
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: thing happened to receivers because now if you're a great

992
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: athlete as a kid, they're putting you at receiver. It

993
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: is seven on seven every damn year in the draft.

994
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 3: This year there were ten receivers taken in the first

995
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: forty picks. And then when we're like hold on that,

996
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: everybody thinks there are twenty five top ten receivers. Like

997
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: if you really put pencil to paper and it's like, okay,

998
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: is he a top ten receiver? Well, I don't, no, man,

999
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: because that Garrett Wilson thinks he is. DeVante Adams thinks

1000
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: he is. Tyreek Hill thinks he is Jayleen Waddle thinks

1001
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: he is. There's four just in the AFC East, and

1002
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: you keep going is Terry mclaurins, Nicocollins is Deebo Samuel Is,

1003
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: Brandon ayuk Is and I've mentioned Tyreek Kill, Jamar Chase

1004
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: aj Brown, CD lamb a Mon Like there's all of these,

1005
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 3: it's like, well they're thirty million a person. But Brian

1006
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: Thomas Junior was the fourth receiver taken, So like, is

1007
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: there going to be the same type of correction where

1008
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: teams are like, no, I'm not paying thirty million for

1009
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: a receiver. There's six more great ones coming out in

1010
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: the draft, Like, I'm just not doing it right. So

1011
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: I saw that, I wondered if that was happening. I

1012
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: still think that's probably going to happen. The other thing

1013
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: that has happened this season is and maybe I'm maybe

1014
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: this is just because I turned forty and I instantly

1015
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: developed old man opinions. But Malik neighbors being a diva

1016
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: receiver as a rookie in fury it's too much and like,

1017
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: in a way, it's too much. Man, say, like, listen,

1018
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: I get that there's been a we're allowed to be divas,

1019
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: so we kind of lean into it from the position.

1020
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: Got it, so be it no problem. But t Ow

1021
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: and o Jo Sinko were not pains in the ass

1022
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 3: their first year in the league. They weren't like they

1023
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: were great, and then they they developed years. Yes, once

1024
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: they had pelts on the wall, I see, I'm like, man, everywhere,

1025
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: I look like George Pickens, an awesome player, huge pain

1026
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: in the ass from day one. Malik Neighbors it took

1027
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: him eight games before he's like, why didn't I get

1028
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 3: the ball to were down thirty nothing? It's like, buddy,

1029
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: you're the best player on the team. I get it,

1030
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 3: but you it's too early lead for this, It's too early.

1031
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: And so the and then the AJ Brown thing really

1032
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: irritated me on a just a team level. It's like, man,

1033
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: there there was nothing wrong. Everything. You guys are on

1034
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: a ten game winning streak, you're you guys are undefeated

1035
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: when you playing there seemingly everything's all good. The only

1036
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: public narrative should be, man, Sakuon Barkley's gonna break Eric

1037
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: Dickerson's record, and our defense is better than you idiots

1038
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: thought it would be. And then privately, if you want

1039
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: to be like god, damn it, so be it. But

1040
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: it's that was like AJ Brown, you're on your third contract,

1041
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 3: you just got paid again. What are we doing?

1042
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: He was overshadowed by a star running back in Tennessee,

1043
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: Derek Henry, and he's overshadowed again with a star running back.

1044
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: No great receiver has been overshadowed in his prime by

1045
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: the two best receivers over the last six years in

1046
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: the league. He's the guy.

1047
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting. I didn't even think about that.

1048
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: So he keeps going to play, he's going time out.

1049
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: I get a good quarterback, not a great one. Tannehill

1050
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: Jalen I'm the best player on the team, and both

1051
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: become run centric.

1052
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 3: What are you doing to my career?

1053
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: What are you right?

1054
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: But but the but here's the here's the thing about that.

1055
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: But you keep getting paid any like, you keep getting

1056
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: top of the market.

1057
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: Deals, but money every time. You know, I'm not gonna

1058
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 2: speak for anybody, but when people get raises, it's good

1059
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: for about three checks and then you're like, I want

1060
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: the respect. Guys are driven much more by respect than

1061
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: they are money.

1062
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: I know that part. I totally agree with I the

1063
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: and I agree with you the But whenever, like somebody

1064
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: loses a job or whatever and the reaction on Twitter

1065
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: is either still getting paid or whatever, I disagree with

1066
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: that because for someone who has been a j in it,

1067
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: it's gonna sound like I'm contradicting myself, But I'll come around.

1068
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: He's been He's not newly rich. He's been rich long

1069
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: enough that that's his normal. So the money doesn't really

1070
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: solve things. The point I'm making is I would understand

1071
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: it a little bit more if you were in a

1072
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: contract year. If it's like, yo, you're costing me money

1073
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: because but the Eagles preemptively paid him this offseason early.

1074
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I would think you do

1075
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 3: that is to stave this off, Like, hey, no matter

1076
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: how we have to run the team, you're gonna know

1077
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: you've been taken care of. So even if this year

1078
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 3: your numbers are down, it's not costing you anything because

1079
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: we just paid you. So that's the reason I brought

1080
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: it up, Like I do get why guys who are

1081
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 3: in contract years are.

1082
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: Like no, I mean, aj Browne, give me my not

1083
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: being selfish. Because also, the NFL record book nobody cares.

1084
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: It's not like baseball. It really isn't. Nobody cares about

1085
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: the NFL record But we know Brady and Jerry, Rice

1086
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: and Montana and Mahomes are all over it, like and Breeze,

1087
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: So like a wide receiver, like, listen, we know you're great.

1088
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: If you get paid and you win a ring, it

1089
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: kind of solves everything.

1090
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: Well, and that's and also like if there's anyone on

1091
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: the like, could you imagine and this is to your

1092
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: point if after this last game, Saquan out of nowhere

1093
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: in the locker room was like, yeah, I mean, listen,

1094
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: everything's great, but I'm really sick of jail and sniping

1095
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: my touch. I should have ten more. Like how about

1096
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: we call a handoff at the one instead of the toushbush.

1097
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: People would be like, you laugh because it's laughable to

1098
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: think of him doing it. But it's used to receivers

1099
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: being ridiculous. We're totally used to it, one hundred percent

1100
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: used to it, like the yeah, I mean, I don't,

1101
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't even bad ones Kadarius Tony, this dope,

1102
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: he's bounced. He just wants to. He barely got on

1103
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: the field in Cleveland Fair caught a punt and taunted

1104
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: a guy. It's like you just have it in your DNA,

1105
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: like you just have It's it's unbelievable, all.

1106
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Speaker 2: Right, Time for another edition. We released this on Thursday

1107
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Speaker 2: night and the YouTube channel or Friday on the podcast

1108
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: Sharper Square. Chad Millman co host of the Favorites. All

1109
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: of our odds provided by DraftKings. So last week a

1110
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: lot of favorites were in favor for me and didn't

1111
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: necessarily do well. I'm still surprised how the Rams played

1112
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: perhaps the most flawless half to game of offensive football

1113
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: by any team on the season. I was just watching

1114
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: some clips of it today and they did everything right.

1115
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: Nobody dropped a pass ball, never hit the turf, no

1116
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: holding it. It was a thing of art. And it's

1117
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: interesting because now this week you get the Bills getting

1118
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: two and a half at the Lions.

1119
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Speaker 3: And I like the Bills here because.

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01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: They're getting Kincaid, the tight end is healthy, they're they're

1121
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: getting Coleman back. It was almost as if it was

1122
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: this Sandwich game, even though it's McVeigh and Stafford. You know,

1123
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo travels west, they know half the stadium is going

1124
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: to be theirs. They're looking at that Detroit game even

1125
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: though it's not an AFC or a divisional game, and

1126
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: they had a couple of guys on the cusp that

1127
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: could play or not, and they elected not and they

1128
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: got caught flat footed when the Rams played a flawless game.

1129
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: So I like Buffalo plus two and a half now,

1130
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: Sharper square.

1131
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 6: Well, the line has moved from one and a half

1132
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 6: Detroit to two and a half Detroit, and I will

1133
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 6: tell you that the majority of betting tickets have been

1134
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 6: coming in on the Buffalo Bills. So when you see

1135
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 6: a line move that goes in the direction of one

1136
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 6: side that is opposite of where the betting tickets are.

1137
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 6: That's a reverse line move, and that sizes you. The

1138
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 6: professional betters are on the Lions, and they've been on

1139
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 6: the Lions at one and a half and two. At

1140
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 6: two and a half, you start to see the pressure point.

1141
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 6: You'll find an equal number who still like the Lions

1142
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 6: at two and a half, and they take it up

1143
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 6: to three, and you'll find the number of wise guys

1144
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 6: who are coming in at two and a half on

1145
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 6: the Bills and liking the Bills because they like Josh Allen.

1146
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 6: I will tell you I'm a Lions backer. In this game,

1147
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 6: I bettered at one and a half, I bettered at two.

1148
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 6: As healthy as the Bills are starting to get with

1149
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 6: players coming back, this may be the healthiest the Lions

1150
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 6: have been in eight weeks. They could get a lot

1151
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: of guys back on the defensive line that has just

1152
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 6: been decimated over the past three or four weeks. Also,

1153
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 6: the Lions haven't played on the road since November twenty

1154
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 6: fourth at the Colts. They haven't played period for ten days.

1155
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 6: You talk about the Bills, they just had a gauntlet, right,

1156
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 6: they had the Chiefs. They had the Niners. Those were

1157
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 6: massive games for them, getting over huge humps. They go

1158
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 6: on the road, have an intense, nearly perfect game that

1159
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 6: just isn't perfect enough against the Rams. Now they got

1160
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 6: to go on the road again against what might be

1161
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 6: the best team in the NFL, and they could face

1162
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 6: them in the Super Bowl. So you know you're not

1163
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 6: wrong by betting the Bills at two and a half.

1164
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 6: But if you said I like the Lions, you'd be

1165
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 6: on the sharp side too. It's a pretty even split

1166
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 6: at this number. Just at this number. Okay, Steelers getting

1167
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 6: five and a half at the Eagles. And the reason

1168
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 6: I like this is because pitch Burgh's mostly been a

1169
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: pretty good team against the run. If you look at

1170
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 6: what the Eagles have decided to do since the buy,

1171
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 6: it is throw the ball less.

1172
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: Green Bay's doing this too. They are a run first team,

1173
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: as they should be. Their best player is Saq One.

1174
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: Their second best player is AJ Brown. I think Pittsburgh

1175
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: can have some vulnerababilities against the pass, but I don't

1176
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: think Jalen hurts from the pocket. I mean, Aj Brown's

1177
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: not happy he's only getting six and a half targets.

1178
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is the best underdog coach in the league

1179
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: four and a half points. These two don't play very often.

1180
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: It feels like a lot of points to a very

1181
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: good roster. Even if Pittsburgh lost, If Pickens plays, they

1182
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: have enough big play ability to back door cover. The

1183
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: line seems out of whack. I'll take the Steelers sharper square.

1184
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sharp.

1185
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 6: And this is what we talked about on the Favorites

1186
01:05:56,080 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 6: podcast was why isn't this number three? Why isn't this

1187
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 6: number three and a half? When the number is so

1188
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 6: out of whack, you either are being asked to do

1189
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 6: something that is too easy, which the books never do,

1190
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 6: or you feel like you're missing something. I don't know

1191
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: what we're missing here. Like you just mentioned, Tomlin is

1192
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 6: the best underdog coach in the league. Tomlin is the

1193
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 6: best underdog coach in a generation. Let's put this in perspective.

1194
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 6: You win fifty three percent of your bets. You're an

1195
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 6: incredible sports better, right, that's what you're looking for. So

1196
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 6: when we talk about trends, and we talk about analytics

1197
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 6: on certain opportunities and metrics and betting, if we can

1198
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 6: find a trend that is fifty six percent against the

1199
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 6: spread over in historically relevant period of time. You tend

1200
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 6: to want to play that if all the other factors

1201
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 6: are in your direction. Tomlin, he's sixty plus percent in

1202
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 6: just about every category as an underdog, you say, all right,

1203
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 6: between three and seven two key numbers. Seven percent, you

1204
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 6: say on the road as a dog, sixty four percent,

1205
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 6: Like you can't name a category where he's not sixty

1206
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 6: plus percent. And then if you look at the matchup too.

1207
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 6: You mentioned Saquan right, the Eagles are the only team

1208
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 6: in the NFL that is running the ball at a

1209
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 6: higher percenters than they're passing the ball. And I would

1210
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 6: not think, oh my god, Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown

1211
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 6: there's you know, strife and now they're getting along again.

1212
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean that Kellen Moore is going to change this

1213
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 6: offense and all of a sudden try to make it so.

1214
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 6: AJ Brown is getting more and more touches. This is

1215
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 6: who they are. Jalen Hurts is throwing the fewest passes

1216
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 6: in the NFL this year, So I would expect a

1217
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 6: low scoring game. Wise, guys are expecting a low scoring

1218
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 6: game that plays to the advantage of the team that

1219
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 6: is more than a field goal underdog. So yeah, that's

1220
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 6: the sharp side.

1221
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: I like the Broncos minus four, both teams off a bye.

1222
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: I think Denver's got a really good defense. Now again,

1223
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 2: Jamis went and I think you can beat it down

1224
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: the field. That's not really what the Colts do. I

1225
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: think there are ways to score on virtually every team

1226
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: in this league. And I think Cleveland is one of

1227
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: those weird bad teams that can be highly productive throwing

1228
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: the ball down the field. But it should be noted

1229
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: in that game Denver eventually got picked sixes and turn

1230
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: the game around with their defense. Is I think Anthony

1231
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: Richardson is struggling with Shane Steichen. Look what Shane Steiken

1232
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 2: did with Gardner Minshew Okay, Shane Steiken as a rookie

1233
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert set records made Jalen Hurts an MVP

1234
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: level player and he's pretty average from the pocket. That

1235
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: passing game is limited, and I think it's limited because

1236
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson may not be a pro starting quarterback. I

1237
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: get an experience coach an excellent defense at home against

1238
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: the Dome team. You know, I love the number four.

1239
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 2: It's probably square, but I like Denver. Here. Give me

1240
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: Sean Payton Shanahan McVeigh read extra time Sharper square.

1241
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know the answer, it's totally square. Wise guys

1242
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 6: love the Colts here. It's been bet down. It was

1243
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 6: at four and a half, it's at four. It'll probably

1244
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 6: go down to three and a half. If you want

1245
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 6: to bet the Colts, get it now, because it's only going.

1246
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 5: To go in their direction.

1247
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 6: You're right about the Broncos coming off a bye, and

1248
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 6: there is a lot of public sentiment on the Broncos

1249
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 6: right now. The last time anyone saw them, they were

1250
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 6: winning in dramatic fashion against the Browns, right they were

1251
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 6: getting two pick sixes, they were covering with a miracle

1252
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 6: and an interception in the end zone. The Broncos are

1253
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 6: covering by five points per game. Historically, teams that are

1254
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 6: covering by five points per game over the course of

1255
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 6: the season once we get past Week five only covered

1256
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 6: about a forty four percent clip against the spread. So

1257
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 6: there's one trend to help the cause of the cults.

1258
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 6: But also, I don't know that wise guys agree with

1259
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 6: you about Anthony Richardson. I think there's a little bit

1260
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 6: of Bryce Young sort of in the way he's come

1261
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 6: back from being benched since he's come back. Eighth rated

1262
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 6: passer according to Pro Football Focus, fourth in big plays

1263
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 6: according to Pro Football Focus, big play throws according to

1264
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 6: Pro Football Focus. So it's not as bad as you

1265
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 6: would think. And I do think there's something key here.

1266
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 6: Remember what happened with the Browns against the Broncos on

1267
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 6: that in that primetime game, they didn't have Riley Moss

1268
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 6: a cornerback.

1269
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: They had William Vance.

1270
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 6: William Vance he might have still he might still be

1271
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 6: giving up touchdowns to Jerry Judy as we speak, like

1272
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 6: he was getting torched in that game. Riley Moss is

1273
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 6: the only guy who didn't practice this week for the Broncos.

1274
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 6: So if he's not playing, I think that's a severely

1275
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 6: diminished defense and it impacts what they can do all

1276
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 6: across the board. So there's trend reasons. There's inflation reasons.

1277
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 6: The line is just too high, the wise guys think,

1278
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 6: and there's some matchup reasons.

1279
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: Packers Seahawks is a really interesting game. Packers, like the Eagles,

1280
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: have taken passing attempts away from Jordan Love in the

1281
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: last month. They're now a power run team that makes

1282
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: far fewer mistakes. But Green Bay is like a younger

1283
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: version of Philadelphia. They have just decided we're a power

1284
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: run team.

1285
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 3: We do have.

1286
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: Weapons over the top, but we're not going to let

1287
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: our quarterback throw more than like twenty two to twenty

1288
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: four times, and we're going to reduce the errors. And

1289
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: when green Bay does reduce the errors, they're really really

1290
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: good football team. I like Seattle, I still don't think

1291
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: they're an elite team. I think they're a playoff team,

1292
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: maybe in a OK division. I think green Bay is

1293
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: absolutely a playoff team and an excellent division. I like

1294
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: green Bay minus two and a half Sharper square.

1295
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 6: One hundred percent sharp at two and a half. If

1296
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 6: it gets to three, it's a pass. And if it

1297
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 6: gets to three, you know, the wise guys will probably

1298
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 6: want to bet on Seattle. But at two and a half,

1299
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 6: it's one hundred percent. The Packers for the reasons you

1300
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 6: just stated, and the most important thing, it's like playing

1301
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 6: SEC in the MAC right. The Packers are losing really

1302
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 6: close games and winning really close games in the best

1303
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 6: division in football. They are battle tested every single week.

1304
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 6: The Seahawks, they're winning a flukey game against the Cardinals

1305
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 6: a few weeks ago, then they're getting the Cardinals in

1306
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 6: a class at Kyler Murray game last week, and they

1307
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 6: won a miraculous game against the Jets, which they should

1308
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 6: have lost, but they got Leonard Williams running a pick

1309
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 6: six back for you know, ninety something yards. So they're

1310
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 6: a much better team since the buy. And credit to

1311
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 6: their coaching staff and everything they've done. And they've improved

1312
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 6: their defense significantly and their offense. By the way, you

1313
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 6: know Zach Scharbiney and what he did last week was

1314
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 6: a great match for how they want to build their

1315
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 6: running scheme. But the wise guys like the Packers here,

1316
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 6: it's just it's a better team. And by the way,

1317
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 6: Matt Laflora is a wizard when it comes to covering

1318
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 6: the spread. It's very possible when fifteen years if Matt

1319
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 6: laflour is still coaching the Packers, he's got Mike Tomlin

1320
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 6: like stats as a favorite and as an underdog covering

1321
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 6: the spread.

1322
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay, game, I want you to tell me where to go?

1323
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: Is Bears plus six and a half at the Viking.

1324
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 2: So Minnesota is a really good team. But that game

1325
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: with Atlanta was tied going into the fourth quarter. I've

1326
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: seen them against teams like the Jags go zero for

1327
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: five in the red zone. It's a good team with

1328
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback having a great year. But six and a

1329
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: half is a lot. It's a divisional game, and the

1330
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: Bears before that disaster in the Bay Area, which was

1331
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: probably easier to predict than I would have admitted. I

1332
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: do think they'll get back on track. I do think

1333
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: they have a very good roster. Is again seems out

1334
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: of whack. Six and a half. I mean, I think

1335
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: it's I honestly see it as a go either way

1336
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: game in.

1337
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 3: The fourth quarter.

1338
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: Probably take the better coaching staff, but sharper square Bears

1339
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: plus the points.

1340
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 5: So the Bear.

1341
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 6: It's it's the sharp ish play only because and we

1342
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 6: talk about this all the time on the show, you

1343
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 6: want to get the best of the number. Twenty four

1344
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 6: hours ago, this game was seven and a half, and

1345
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 6: then it went down to seven, and now it's down

1346
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 6: to six and a half. That alone tells you, Colin,

1347
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 6: that you're on the sharp side if you're betting the Bears.

1348
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 6: The number has been moving in their direction. The line

1349
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 6: is way too inflated, and you're getting a very bi

1350
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 6: loo on the Bears. Sell high on the Vikings spot.

1351
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 6: The Bears were a train wreck. They couldn't have looked

1352
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,959
Speaker 6: any worse. They were out of it against the Niners

1353
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 6: in the first half. Right, they had four total yards

1354
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 6: and they had five punts and the Niners had three

1355
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 6: hundred and nineteen yards. Whereas the Vikings, You're right, that

1356
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 6: game was tied and they really blew it open in

1357
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 6: the fourth quarter because of a couple of bad plays

1358
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 6: and turnovers on the part of the Falcons, not because

1359
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 6: of anything magical that the Vikings did to run away

1360
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 6: with it, even though Sam Darnold had an incredible game,

1361
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 6: but they have had their hiccups. Brian Flores defense has

1362
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 6: not been as good in the second half of the

1363
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 6: year as it was in the first half of the year. So, yes,

1364
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 6: you're on the sharp side, but it's a caution. Know

1365
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 6: that if you're playing this number, you've given away some value.

1366
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: So I think the Titans getting four and a half

1367
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: with the Bengals. Of my prediction is that's the ugly game.

1368
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: I ask you every week for a game that I've missed.

1369
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: My guess is the Titans a pretty good defensive team

1370
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: at home playing with pride against the Cincinnati team. You

1371
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: can just move the ball. I mean, if not for

1372
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: a gaff by the Cowboys special teams, we're going to

1373
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: overtime against a very mediocre Dallas team with Cooper Rush

1374
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: is Tennessee plus four and a half. The side here

1375
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: is that the game I'm missing.

1376
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 6: Well, certainly it's a side like it was at five

1377
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 6: and it's come down. So that tells you the wise

1378
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 6: guys are betting on the Titans, because certainly the public

1379
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 6: isn't going to be betting on the Titans. It's a

1380
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 6: really tricky game. I haven't touched this game one hundred percent.

1381
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 6: The value is on the Titans. It's not the game

1382
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 6: I was going to talk to you about. But the

1383
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 6: challenge here, You've basically got a one dimensional Bengals team, right.

1384
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 6: All they can really do is throw the ball to

1385
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 6: Higgins and Chase Joe Burrow.

1386
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 5: Higgins, Joe Burrow's Chase. That's their game plan.

1387
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 6: They can't really run the ball, they don't have a

1388
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 6: screen game, they don't really have play action to speak of.

1389
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 5: All of those things that could slow.

1390
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 6: Down a better than average defense in the Titans, and

1391
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 6: they have no defense to speak of. The problem is

1392
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 6: Will Levis. He's not any better than Cooper Rush. Right,

1393
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 6: he's got a better arm. Maybe he can fling it

1394
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 6: downfield further, but he couldn't even beat up on the

1395
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 6: Jaguars at home last week despite so many opportunities. So

1396
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 6: kind of banking on the fact, you're hoping that when

1397
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 6: there's an opening, Will Levis can convert, you're going to

1398
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 6: take the Titans, because if you're a better that's what

1399
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 6: you do. You bet, you bet the number, but know

1400
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 6: that you're you're playing with fire here because you're not

1401
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 6: just betting the number.

1402
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 2: You're betting Will Levis. All right, tell me the game

1403
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: I missed.

1404
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 6: You didn't talk about Cleveland and Kansas City. This number

1405
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 6: is dropped from six and a half to four and

1406
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 6: a half.

1407
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: So the Browns are the side.

1408
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 6: The Browns have been the side. The Browns are the

1409
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 6: side until it gets to about three and a half.

1410
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 6: And this one, you know in the betting community, it's

1411
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 6: there's two things that are sort of scary right now.

1412
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 5: It's the frequency and.

1413
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 6: Regularity with which you can count on fading Patrick Mahomes

1414
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 6: when he's a favorite of more than three, and the

1415
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 6: frequency and regularity with which you can count on betting

1416
01:17:55,280 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin as an underdog, I said, percentage wise, if

1417
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 6: something is happening six out of ten times, which is

1418
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 6: basically what is happening with both of those categories. Tom

1419
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 6: lenn is a dog, Mahomes is a favorite of more

1420
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 6: than three, it means that four times those bets are

1421
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 6: going to lose this year, they haven't been losing at all,

1422
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 6: And so wise guys know in this spot. The spot

1423
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 6: is to play Cleveland, but it's a little bit scarier

1424
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 6: because you keep waiting for the other shooter drop. A

1425
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 6: lot of guys, including myself, thought it would happened last

1426
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 6: week against the Chargers.

1427
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 5: No JK.

1428
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 6: Dobbins, no Lad McConkey, and it looked like it was

1429
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 6: going to And then again the Chiefs kind of fell

1430
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 6: apart because they have no protection in the offensive line.

1431
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 6: So the Browns pressure the ball, pressure the quarterback more

1432
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 6: than the Chargers and are better at it. And meanwhile

1433
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 6: the Chiefs now they're signing guys off the street to

1434
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 6: play in the defensive backfield. And if you want to

1435
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 6: talk about a quarterback who could have a good time

1436
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 6: slinging it against a wonky defensive back, let's talk about

1437
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 6: Jamis Now are you potentially going to suffer a pick

1438
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 6: six that can ruin it for you? Sure, but the

1439
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 6: wise guys are willing to literally make that bet.

1440
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 5: So they're playing Cleveland.

1441
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: You know, I know the games a couple of weeks away,

1442
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: but I think it's really interesting. The Ohio State hosting

1443
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: Tennessee first round playoff game, to me is one of

1444
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: the more fascinating games ever. So you take a warm

1445
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: weather team from Knoxville and everybody's having to wait for

1446
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: the playoff to start. That means the weather's getting uglier.

1447
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: My wife was in Chicago to the day and she's like,

1448
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: it is cold.

1449
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1450
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: So you take a warm weather SEC team up to

1451
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: a superior roster. I believe in Ohio State. You get

1452
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: an Ohio State team that's got a little insecurity and

1453
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: lack of identity off a historically bad loss. So they'll

1454
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: play with incredible intensity and focus. You know, Ohio State

1455
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: really is coming with their hair on fire. Yeah, and

1456
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: now Ohio State's O line is the weak unit on

1457
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: their roster, and the D line for the volunteers is

1458
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,759
Speaker 2: the strength of their roster. The weather could play a factor.

1459
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State's greatest asset is their vertical nature on the perimeter,

1460
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: it could be thirty eight degrees and windy. I looked

1461
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: at the forecast now it's fourteen days out or twelve

1462
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: days or ten days. I looked at it about four

1463
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: days ago and I'm like, oh, it's going to be

1464
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 2: forty one degrees and wet. How does the betting community

1465
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 2: or have they looked at that game?

1466
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 6: Well, right now the number is seven and a half.

1467
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 6: People have been talking about it. I think there's a

1468
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 6: lot of circumstances still to go. I'm looking in the

1469
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 6: app right now. Not a ton of action on the

1470
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 6: game at this point, and like this is so early

1471
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 6: you can't really take anything of it. Majority of money

1472
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 6: and tickets are on Tennessee. I also think a week's

1473
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 6: bought for the for Ohio State is their quarterback, Like

1474
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 6: he's not sort of an elite passer who can take

1475
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 6: advantage of the talent they have. The elite talent, you know,

1476
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 6: top round, first round draft pick talent they have at

1477
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 6: Ohio State.

1478
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 5: You and I have talked about Ohio State.

1479
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 6: A lot, and Ryan Day the ad came out today

1480
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 6: and said he supports Ryan Day. He wants Ryan Day

1481
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 6: to be back as the head coach like I think

1482
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 6: there's so much tension inside that community right now about

1483
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 6: not just beating Tennessee, but the having to advance that

1484
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 6: his teams have shown up and played type in big games.

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Speaker 5: They play type.

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Speaker 6: So if you're seeing the early numbers come in on Tennessee,

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Speaker 6: I think it's partly a fade of Ryan Day's ability

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Speaker 6: to have his team play loose and take full advantage

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Speaker 6: of the talent that they have on their roster

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Speaker 5: Of volume